pif-hoenn-discussion

[brisk vessel]

👌

[feral bear]

Palossand banished to the shadow realm for eternity or until i finish my hot pocket

[inland jewel]

you're underestimating how much work goes into a pokemon. its not just the name, the sprite and the moves/abilities

[elfin dust]

U have any suggestion on a pokemon that's "soul centric" im trying to randomly fill in an infinity stone based team

[drowsy elm]

spiritomb

[feral bear]

Oooh

Thats a lovely idea

[elfin dust]

Perhaps also a legendary if you can think of any

[drowsy elm]

Uh Darkrai?

Giritina?

[inland jewel]

didn't ho-oh revive the thingies into the dogs

[elfin dust]

Giratina would fit more on "reality"

[feral bear]

The color has to fit tho!

[inland jewel]

Palkia and Dialga as the Space and Time Stone

[uncut ore]

Nvm

[elfin dust]

Which are we talkin bout here

[feral bear]

Any of the stones!

[inland jewel]

I mean Latios/Latias both have the Soul Dew as their key item

[drowsy elm]

oh true

[elfin dust]

Well the colors could match ny adding an aura cover on the fusion after making it

[feral bear]

Soul is orange right?

[inland jewel]

yellow

[feral bear]

I thought mind was yellow?

My brain is dumb tho so idk

[brisk vessel]

[elfin dust]

Yeah but we dont have those here HAHAHAHAHAHA

[brisk vessel]

Spirit is Yellow
Uxie is yellow
Spirit is Uxie

[inland jewel]

i think he is asking about pokemon that are IN IF

[feral bear]

I just looked it up on google dot com soul is orange!

[elfin dust]

Its basically just fusing compatible pokes here in IF to represent all 6 aspects of the stones - color wise could be edited after i guess to color match either the sprite itself or by adding aura of the stone surrouding the fusion

[feral bear]

I was born at a very young age!

[brisk vessel]

Ninetails

It's based on the mythological ninetailed fox and I'm pretty sure those guys devoured souls in transactions

[agile olive]

I misread your message with your name and thought you said one of them was cope

[brisk vessel]

[elfin dust]

That actually could fit to be fair. Revive capabilities works well with the soul aspect

[gilded eagle]

Updated

[alpine rune]

yep

i only realized now that message was 30 minutes ago

[violet current]

dhelmise that low is criminal

[gilded eagle]

please read what the tier says

[alpine rune]

I think i lost my tier list

[violet current]

how can u not think of any cool fusions for dhelmise! ive got like 40 billion concepts in my head

[rain gust]

I think marshadow just ain't gonna work
He's cool on his own,but fusing with other mons would be difficult

[fair jewel]

Current slots taken
Total line types count: #pif-hoenn-discussion message

Also, for those asking for the leaked mons, we don't know if the leaks are actually legit, and even if they are, we don't know if they'll take up slots

[last magnet]

what about sableye

[fair jewel]

There's so much conflicting information regarding this as different mods have said different things. But until it is said otherwise, i'll focus on Frog's (and Blaq's too i guess if u think he's important) statement that it doesn't count

[white meadow]

This screams cool to me nlg
#sprite-gallery message

[last magnet]

they just didnt say it was a dev pick

[fair jewel]

Frog said it was a bonus, Blaq's pinned post places it in bonus

[last magnet]

nice

[fair jewel]

even if 5 mods tell me it takes a slot, Frog's word is king

[silent acorn]

Frog sends news of what's what and blaq only updates the pins

[feral bear]

Glad u like it :>

[silent acorn]

Been here since they revealed frosslass and we ping blaquaza once news are of having to update pins

The sableye confirmation as a dev pick happened outside announcements over at reddit.

[fair jewel]

Technically not a dev pick

[silent acorn]

Well regardless of what it is,it is a bonus mon that has been confirmed thus far

[fair jewel]

It was Kuray's pick (author of the Kuray mod), and that's what probably caused some confusion and miscommunication amongst the staff

[silent acorn]

Prob. But it's confirmed sableye for all effects and purposes a bonus

[feral bear]

the confusion was that they all wanted it to be one of the picks because they thought it would fit, but 20 had already been selected

This was confirmed yesterday in this very channel

[silent acorn]

The poll was opened until they revealed oricoricorio so plenty of time to have been informed about what was in or not.

[fair jewel]

4 slots left... damn... Tsareena definitely won't make it in... nooooooo

[silent acorn]

Rip better luck in the mayhaps next mon vote

[fair jewel]

At... at least gib me Lurantis...

[silent acorn]

Hard with noivern there unfortunately

[feral bear]

it was human error, kiwi and frog had a fun little interaction about it yesterday, where he poked fun by saying neither of them could count

[fair jewel]

?? What does Noivern have anything to do with Lurantis?

[silent acorn]

Yeah I saw that I was here.

[fair jewel]

there's still 4 slots left, and the leaked mons might not take any slots

[silent acorn]

Limited slots number mean the lotto and chances of certain mons become slimmer and slimmer

[feral bear]

it could be tsareena and a single mon tbf

[strong mango]

wheres the leaked list

[silent acorn]

Only pallosand line and necrozma

[fair jewel]

Nah, i'd rather not waste slots like that. I'd rather something like Lurantis line, Meloetta, and Magearna/Diancie

[strong mango]

diancie would be cool

[silent acorn]

Up in the air quite frankly will only find out next week about how this is gonna go down. Worst case only a few slots and no chance for another 2 stager

[fair jewel]

It would, but spriting crystals is a nightmare... so i'm more about just seeing what ppl make with it

[strong mango]

true

[feral bear]

Aromatisse line, Diancie and minior plz OR bruxish

[silent acorn]

If none of your mons get in you are gonna have to wait until next mon vote next year or 2 years

[fair jewel]

Magearna also might turn ppl off becuz drawing machines seems to be hard, but i look forward to seeing some clockwork fusions

[silent acorn]

No idea how many they can do.

[feral bear]

theres a very suspicious lack of legends in the selections tho, so in all likelihood the last 4 will be legends

[fair jewel]

screw legendaries

[silent acorn]

Well now. Legends are single stage and make the majority of single choice mons

[fair jewel]

Well we'll know come this Saturday

[silent acorn]

Mythical or legends I dunno

[feral bear]

legends usually dominate community polls like this, same with dragon types and the typical fan favorites

[silent acorn]

Well yeah but we mostly seen other mons and no legends which is ultra odd

[feral bear]

yea its very sus

[silent acorn]

I mean everyone best scenario is the leaks are just bonus but that could be a fever dream

[fair jewel]

Well if it's gen 6's legendaries X and Y idm. While i don't like X for fusion, Y has very interesting characteristics and pallete ppl would love to work with
gen 7's are... bleh

[fleet hull]

not true but aight

[silent acorn]

I mean everyone kept complaining about how altaria and sharpedo got in so it's not really about me or yas, it's more about the overall thought of "want in"

[feral bear]

I think that the leaks will def be extra if anything, people like to pretend that there are super rigid criteria to decide what can be added as a bonus mon, when in reality the devs kinda just do what they want with it lol

[silent acorn]

So like as long as enough people agree that mon should be in thats what we get. Rather than the most burning 3s on a single one

[fleet hull]

if the leaked mons are gonna be actual slots then i doubt they'd do the whole bait reveal in the first place

[fair jewel]

Gen 7 has Tapus, Cosmog line, Ultra Beasts, and Necrozma yeah?
Tapus would take 4 slots for despite sharing very similar elements, Cosmog line is basically Galaxy 1, 2, 3, and Zoid, Ultra beasts are nice but too complex to sprite, and Necrozma... fck Necrozma

[silent acorn]

It would be a really strange reveal honestly they been doing 2 in a single go the whole time

[feral bear]

solgaleo has so much potential tho

[fair jewel]

I agree, but the other 3 slots are a burden to it

[silent acorn]

You can hate necrozma all you want but you know as much as i do that denying any UBs has the opposite effect

[feral bear]

high skill ceiling, but lots of potential

[fair jewel]

I don't have to deny anything, i'll just wait for the announcements

if i'm wrong, so be it. If i'm right, ppl asking for them can cope and mald

[feral bear]

cosmog works as a cloud mon, since clouds make good heads asa texture, but yeah lunala is gonna be hard

[silent acorn]

We are sitting ducks. I personally hope for the bonus leaks. That way we have two unexpected mons more

We all have guilty pleasures on the poll I did solgaleo and lunala despite knowing how wasteful that would be

[fair jewel]

The only gen 7 legendary i want is Magearna, everything else is... bleh
Don't get me wrong, UBs are cool, but spriting them is going to be a nightmare

[silent acorn]

Other people have regis, other people have the y and x, other people have meloetta. We all have guilty pleasure picks.

[fleet hull]

As someone who doesnt do any spriting that is irrelevant so UBs please 🙂

[feral bear]

I mean, hard for some people, but I know a few spriters who would eat those UBs up lol

[fair jewel]

If u don't mind playing nothing but autogens for months/years, go right ahead

[silent acorn]

Pix likes stakataka and kartana so they definetely have their crowd

[feral bear]

cristata, ribbon, notto gonna eat em up and leave no crumbs tbh! yes indeed!

[fair jewel]

Real artists on this server have to make the sprites, they don't just appear instantly the moment a mon is announced

[silent acorn]

Actually with the dragons just now they just showed up within minutes

[fair jewel]

Ribbon left the server, and those few artists are not going to populate all 800+ slots on their own

[silent acorn]

And the incentive is getting a say via contest raffle

For better or for worse

[feral bear]

we have so many spirited spriters tho outside of just those, i could name so many more! i have faith in the community for sure 😄

We've been getting so many good spriters lately too, the art community here is very healthy!

[fair jewel]

Oh, i actually don't mind Kartana. It's the only UB i think that provides so much potential for fusions

It's also not complex to sprite at all, so many ppl are welcomed to attempt it

[silent acorn]

Its up to each person I personally like a bunch of the UBs not all of them

[feral bear]

i will do so many poipole and Nagana del rey fusions tbh

[fair jewel]

Luckily we stopped at gen 7. Imagine if they had to add in Eternatus
The person who made the smogon sprite for it probably lost a few years of his life (and hair) trying to sprite even just a base version of it

[silent acorn]

There is some weird hivemind consensus lately with goodra and noivern I honestly don't know what else could be at the top of the poll

[feral bear]

goodra and noivern are extremely popular community picks as a whole, so its really not that strange

[silent acorn]

I knew sharpedo, tyrantrum, trevenant and froslass would get in, but after that I don't know whats top pick.

[feral bear]

Goodra was an inevitability tbh

[fair jewel]

Goodra is fine, but taking up 3 slots for what is essentially the exact same aesthetics is kinda wasteful
Altaria has a unique aesthetic, but i've heard many spriters complain about how hard it is to create concepts with it
Noivern is probably the best of the 3. Easier to sprite with unique aesthetics, while taking up only 2 slots

[silent acorn]

Yeah thats the right word I prefer to believe it wouldn't happen but it was inevitable

[silent acorn]

Goodra could have just being a raffle pick and save us like one slot atleast

[feral bear]

see, the raffle pick is the real wildcard here tbh

[silent acorn]

Unfortunately it isn't what the Spriters pick but rather a random chance of something.

[fleet hull]

I didn’t even know there was a raffle pick that sounds exciting

[silent acorn]

Like there is no guarantee of anything.

[fair jewel]

What raffle? The Trevenant event raffle?

[feral bear]

i thought we all picked a mon and submit it and one gets picked?

[fleet hull]

If we did I forgot about it lmfao

[feral bear]

didnt even submit my trev/sableye so idk why im even talking LOL

[silent acorn]

I have no idea how many extra stuff is left. But people who win contest get to add a mon of their choosing into a raffle that will decide the last bonus mon.

[fleet hull]

Oh neat

[fair jewel]

I mean, those are all spriters who win the contests though? Wdym it isn't what the spriters pick?

[silent acorn]

Its a raffle it does what it says in the tin :v

[fleet hull]

But less neat since that means the odds of it being some random stinker mon is super low and that would’ve been really funny

[feral bear]

not contests, just the trevenant event. Check pins in that channel and youll see that it says contest winners dont get to pick a mon

[silent acorn]

Oh trust me there is a high chance dhelmise will be put in.

[fleet hull]

Dhelmise isn’t a stinker that mon is hype

[fair jewel]

There's 2 raffles afaik. One random contest winner, and 1 random Trevenant contributor

[white meadow]

It would be pretty funny to see an extremely obscure pokemon get in over some of the more popular ones.

[silent acorn]

Did you check? Cuz I been confused as hell about that

[fair jewel]

If Kiwi was picked, she'd pick Bruxish... fck...

[feral bear]

oh, I only knew about the trev one, in the contest channel one of the pins says that contest winners dont get to pick so idk

[fair jewel]

I did, and those 2 were the only ones i know, which is why i asked u if i missed something else that involved peasants non-spriters

[silent acorn]

Well of course I check everything I can but the main rule for the contest raffle is that every winner adds a name of a mon of their choosing into the random raffle

My god. The likelihood we get freaking luvdisk is so bad

[fair jewel]

Yep, that's the contest one. A random Trevenant contributor will also submit another pick too

[fleet hull]

Luvdisc would go crazy

[silent acorn]

I just pray everyone is sensible enough to not mess that up.

Like geebus dunsparce is dissapointing but its awesome and you can make cool stuff with it. But luvdisk.. My god that's a downgrade and impossible mode for spriting

[feral bear]

bold lol

[fair jewel]

I couldn't win any contests, my sprites are just too mediocre

[feral bear]

my sharpedo/sableye will win

[fleet hull]

Watchog will win for sure 🙏

[feral bear]

and i will pick... [redacted]

[silent acorn]

I dont mind watchog is not bad. Just not mindblowing really.

[wanton coral]

Noivern is another amazing choice

[white meadow]

The noodles I just had were amazing, this is a good omen for the next reveal.

[silent acorn]

But like if you pick luvdisk you suck as a person. I can't think of any freaking reason why that is a funny joke when stakes are so high.

[wanton coral]

STAB Adaptability boomburst abuse coming in with PorygonZ/Noivern

[feral bear]

pixilate sylveon would like a word

[silent acorn]

Why? To add to the game? It's already in.

[fair jewel]

Or even with STAB Pixellate Boomburst with Sylveon/Noivern

[wanton coral]

They literally just announced that it will be added wtf

[fleet hull]

People being upset over Luvdisc is the reason it’s funny

[silent acorn]

Seriously though. I will curse with a freaking ritual whoever decides to write luvdisk. That's a slight I can't even begin to forgive.

[fair jewel]

if we get Aurorus, we can also get STAB Refrigerate Boomburst

[white meadow]

I'd be disappointed, but I would appreciate the chaos.

[silent acorn]

Like you could get freaking aurorus through the raffle.

Har Har Har people pick the freaking heart disk funni jokeeeeeeeee

[wanton coral]

We won't

[fair jewel]

i wouldn't be surprised if they pull a prank next week and below the sandcastle is an Aururos fossil

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-joke-yoda-doll-star-wars-gif-17879183

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[white meadow]

Hahaha.

[alpine rune]

Honestly at this point im down for literally anything

[wanton coral]

Didn't even think of that, that's disgusting, albeit not quite as good

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-colosseum-luvdisc-gamecube-charm-gif-14176036

Here instead of your favorite pokemon you get to enjoy this forever

No takebacks no refunds no mercy

[feral bear]

I want anything besides palossand, such a lame mon, and even worse fusion potential

[white meadow]

I've been playing Radical Red while enjoying these voting sessions. Golisopod is there, and that's good enough for me. 👍

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-sure-why-the-hell-not-timothée-chalamet-and-cecily-strong-call-each-other-by-their-names-sure-why-not-why-dont-gif-19669376

[eager quarry]

Why isnt scrafty in how am i supposed to write in bruxish now 😔

[white meadow]

Bruxish would definitely add some psychedelic aesthetic to the mix.

[silent acorn]

Cuz luvdisk took the spot, people thought it was ok

Bruxish I clap. Alomomola I shrug. Luvdisk. Get doxxed beach.

The possibility of that is so real is not even funny.

Like you wanna do that to achieve the lowest level of troll.

[fleet hull]

It’s not funny, it’s hilarious

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-submarine-gif-10881561

[silent acorn]

Its as funny as you are.

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/herecomesmyson-the-beatles-gif-14775132

[silent acorn]

Take that as you will.

[fleet hull]

Thank you I am considered the funniest person of all time (source: me) so that means a lot 😍

[eager quarry]

If i wanted to achieve the lowest circle of troll the pick's already in the name smh

[silent acorn]

Now you are actually funny unlike fish lover right here

[fleet hull]

Voting for a monkey in the raffle and forcing them to add all 3 lines is peak comedy

[white meadow]

That's a fun thought.

[silent acorn]

Yeah that would suck so bad, that's so much worse those monkes suck!!!!

[white meadow]

It would probably extend the time between the next vote, as well. A double whammy.

[silent acorn]

Yeah I would hate more than the Luvdisk

Golisopod sucks you know so overrated

That guy was right I am glad I voted a 1 on it

[white meadow]

I disagree, but I'm fine with your opinion.

[silent acorn]

Ah really? Get trolled journey ass looking pfp. I actually gave that one a high one.

[white meadow]

I'm not one to argue on here about things like this. I'll leave you to it.

[silent acorn]

Ok.

[fleet hull]

I’d prefer Araquanid but I respect the pod

[white meadow]

Araquanid was also on my blind nuzlocke team for ultra moon. It has a special place in my heart as well.

I honestly stick around just to hear people talk about their favorite pokemon and their experiences. It's a good time, and a nice break from the norm.

Though, it's also fun to see people fuss over the voting and whatnot. Like watching sports team fans butt heads.

[fleet hull]

Yeah I’m here because it’s funny to watch people take this way too seriously

[white meadow]

That's fair, hahaha.

[fleet hull]

And also remind them how there is actually only one slot left due to regi inclusion 👍

[white meadow]

Ah, the memories.

Wasn't there someone gunning for Noibat some weeks ago? I wonder if they're still here.

https://tenor.com/view/amaura-ice-dinosaur-froakie-frog-noibat-gif-27404809

[alpine rune]

i forgot who that person is

but yes they exist

[white meadow]

I imagine they're losing their minds right now. They were very enthusiastic about the noivern line.

[alpine rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/717498714259980378/970896291360047114/FMpIDBxUUAIqq3G.gif
meanwhile others likeme:

[white meadow]

[alpine rune]

Not a single top 20 made it

[white meadow]

I think I'm going to start adding more emojis to my sentences. I think they come across as sarcastic without them.

I'm just not used to using emojis for things.

[alpine rune]

sure

Assuming my sentence above doesnt sound sarcastic with the emoji

[white meadow]

Hahaha, you just can't win.

I can't find the person with the Noibat flair, I think they may have left the server.

Unfortunate...

Well. Here's a gif in their honor:

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-rick-roll-rickastley-spongebob-gif-19367765

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/scatch-open-mouth-wings-up-gif-18346481

You know what? I think yours is better.

Someone's knocking on my door... at this time of night. If I don't come back, assume the bogeyman got me.

[alpine rune]

beat his ass

[agile olive]

free pizza??

[tranquil path]

new mons go hard

[viscid mica]

oh right @sterile spoke you havent updated this yet(if youre still doin that)

[alpine rune]

The boogeyman got him

RIP Synthcall

[white meadow]

Yes yes I am

Btw I cant wish for more
The 2 of my Favorite mon "trio" got in
Now my beloved Torterra, Scolipede and Noivern are back together

[hushed mantle]

It’s crazy how we’re getting 9 dragon types (so far)

That’s almost half of total votes

[white meadow]

To be fair some non pseudo or legendary Dragons were needed
And they all give good fusions so I can live with the first wave giving some dragons

[weary saddle]

I’m so happy they added altaria

It’s my favorite Pokémon and I’ve wanted it to be added since they started adding new Pokémon

[white meadow]

Its beautifull to have your Favorite Pokemon in PIF

[brisk vessel]

I think we're finally getting to the legendary and mythical additions so I hope and pray my fav gets in 🥹

[weary saddle]

Which is it?

[atomic lagoon]

seeing the altaria fusions makes me really want an altaria fusion on my team

[hushed mantle]

Me whose favorite pokemon is from gen 1:

[alpine rune]

Its gonna be lunala line, occupying 4 slots

[zinc terrace]

How many more additions do we have left?

[meager fog]

i really hope we get lycanroc, i have a super good lycanroc/mimikyu fusion~

[alpine rune]

1

4 at best if the leaks gets deleted

But I think people would riot

[zinc terrace]

sigilyph still has a chance (please indulge my earthshattering copium)

i just want a magic guard fusion that isnt clef or a psychic type

[prime dust]

uh...you do realize Sigilyph is...a psychic type...right

[drowsy drift]

you could fuse it such that it just keeps flying type

[zinc terrace]

yeah, the intent there would be to inherit the flying type

[drowsy drift]

magic guard flying with da stealth rocks immunity

[zinc terrace]

shoulda clarified, my bad

[alpine rune]

Honestly who cares. We all know facts and logic doesn't apply here

<-- getting over the fact that we still dont have a hail setter

[drowsy drift]

delibird

[zinc terrace]

part of me is holding out on the extremely small chance that the engine upgrades have made it so that all the fusions can fit, and the entire leak process is an elaborate bait-and-switch

granted this is still RPG Maker we're talking about here

[drowsy drift]

even if all possible fusions were doable releasing them all at once would be a mistake. that's way too much for the spriters

[zinc terrace]

very true, it'd have to be just an announcement that "hey, we're gonna trickle em all out"

over, say, the next year or so

[alpine rune]

even then burnout will still set in

[zinc terrace]

yup, each new pokemon is X+1 more potential fusions than the last, which is gonna be hell on spriters

And spriters are basically the lifeblood of this game, very very few people are in here to mod it for an extra challenge

[prime dust]

i mean just the 20 poll mons were hell alone

[zinc terrace]

like the only thing we've gotten on that front is demICE's AI improvement mod and challenge mode

not to mention the first iteration of the poll was kinda a wash

people REALLY wanted starters and almost nothing else

[prime dust]

humanoid fusions are probably a lot easier to sprite

[slate osprey]

In case there's another mon vote in the far future, how many more dragon Pokemon are not included yet?

[alpine rune]

When sableye first came to the game, people went mad with the sprites, now things had slowed down considerably. We havent even reached 20% on snorunt line alone

[zinc terrace]

drampa, kommo-o line, druddigon iirc?

[prime dust]

prob cause there is a sprite rush for phantump/trevenant

[slate osprey]

Oh okay that's not terrible then

[zinc terrace]

definitely missed some

[alpine rune]

ah yes, more dragons, we definitely lack dragons

[slate osprey]

I'm saying that the votes are probably gonna skew heavy for dragons again cause these votes did

[slate osprey]

So we might as well get them all over with so we can get other types

[alpine rune]

cant argue with that

[zinc terrace]

Regidrago, zygarde, Dragapult line, Cyclizar, Tatsugiri, Baxcalibur, Roaring Moon. that should be the rest

[alpine rune]

Excluding gen 8 above, that only leaves zygarde

[prime dust]

nothing past gen 7

[slate osprey]

Zygarde might be the only one then since Gen 8 - 9 aren't being added

[zinc terrace]

ah kk

[prime dust]

the Pokemon Essentials they use only has up to Gen 7 for sprites

[slate osprey]

6 dragons. Cool. We might finally get some new fighting types after those 6 dragons...

[drowsy drift]

wanting paradox pokemon when they themselves are just fusions

[zinc terrace]

Turtonator, Guzzlord, and ultra necrozma, I almost forgot!

And dragalge

[slate osprey]

[primal arch]

Yveltal is Dark/flying

[slate osprey]

We'll never be free from the stranglehold of dragons then

[cold fog]

don't forget Drampa!

[zinc terrace]

Mentioned drampa further up

[prime dust]

i don't thin you can count ultra necrozma
since that is a fusion of fusions [or a triple]

[zinc terrace]

fair point. (also I forgot naganadel)

[prime dust]

honestly not sure...never had a chance to play US/UM

[cold fog]

Actually, Drampa would be fun to have, if nothing else for the Berserk ability being implemented.

[prime dust]

also unless the contest winner picks the cosmog line, we aren't getting solgaleo/lunala so ultra necrozma is dead

[slate osprey]

Here lies my hopes and dreams for Excadril and Toxicroak

[drowsy drift]

you can have Necrozma-Black and Necrozma-White instead

[prime dust]

not the same

[slate osprey]

Happy for the Venipede line at least. If the voters don't have its back, I'm happy Infinite Fusion does

[prime dust]

there's probably a list of stuff we can eliminate short of a contest winner pick

wow...its a short list

only 2 groups of mons fit into "not getting in short of contest pick"

• elemental monkeys
• wurmple line

thought it'd be bigger...but since the starter lines already got dq'ed...it is literally just those 2

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-falling-magearna-pokemon-clutz-gif-12816900

[sand mica]

Is Skuntank added yet?

[white meadow]

Join this club if your favorite pokemon is not added to infinite fusion 😭/

[drowsy drift]

alolan muk isn't but also probably shouldn't get added so i'm not gonna join

[onyx garden]

I would love it if the regis were added

Glad Altaria made it in, so much potential. Looking forward to Ho-oH + Smergle with Altaria

[fair jewel]

Updated image with bonus mons

[gusty shuttle]

Btw if we don't have loudred now that we have noivern I'm rioting

Literally rigged

[safe depot]

Exploud could be interesting, Massive Movepool, Boomburst and alright HP but very mediocre stats otherwise

[midnight bane]

Is Minior in the game

[safe depot]

That sounds really awkward to use

[gusty shuttle]

I wonder what will happen if the last winner takes more slots than what's available

[unique rock]

No it’s not

[midnight bane]

It should be and then have those like space effects to its fusions like Cleffa line Palkia and jirachi do

[unique rock]

Blame the vote I guess

[midnight bane]

I will

[gusty shuttle]

Like, let's say for example that the Pidove line is next (we're blessed 🙏), and then the monkeys (), would we have 3 extra voting mons or will they cheat and take the first one slot winner without telling us

[midnight bane]

Imma get them in court

I don’t like pidove lol

[unique rock]

Me when I want a 3 pokemon line in the game:

[gusty shuttle]

Flaming the whole goo fanbase let's go

[midnight bane]

WOAH I just got the exact same amount of screen time average per day as the week before

[unique rock]

I just want the round little man

[midnight bane]

I just want greninja but he won’t get added

He would have sick fusions for sure

[gusty shuttle]

I just want the pigeon as well bro

[stone obsidian]

WOOOOOOOOOO ALTARIA AND GOODRA

[unique rock]

Little pidgeon dove

[unique rock]

Where the heck have u been

[midnight bane]

I just want food

[stone obsidian]

living

[unique rock]

Acceptable

[steep glen]

Sabale was the first slot I thought

Not free

[fair jewel]

Sableye has some conflicting information from different mods on whether it's counted as a bonus or not
But for now i'm taking Frog's word (and Blaq's too if u care abt him) and treat it as a bonus

[steep glen]

Are we really one getting once ice type line?

[fair jewel]

technically 2 since Glalie and Froslass are 2 different final forms

As of now including the new mons, Ice, Fairy, and Fighting are tied for the least amount of types per line at 13 each

[alpine rune]

I assume the will of it gone missin just like in your name?

[mint grotto]

i hope we get more ice pokemon becasue they are cool

[unique rock]

That’s my hope. We don’t have many ice or fighting pokemon

[brisk vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561732072868282378/1155748410679373865/20230924_190544.jpg

[grizzled ginkgo]

not many spots left :( I'm still holding out for Espurr

[iron quartz]

what leaks
And where are people seeing them

[white meadow]

Even funnyer is how Noivern also flamed Sandcastles

Peak fluffy Flying Dragon

[white meadow]

Add this

[iron quartz]

pulls out trusty paint.net
*b e t *

[robust geyser]

i think there's a chance for legendaries to be revealed last

[sterile spoke]

Updated type distribution chart for the Swablu and Noibat lines. 🙂

[white meadow]

Thats probably the Point

[surreal chasm]

Uh huh really funny such a good joke silly Noivern and its shenanigans

[iron quartz]

Let me have hope
(please god)

[robust geyser]

Man, those sure are numbers

[white meadow]

Nah I hope he gets in tho

[sterile spoke]

They're pretty easy numbers to understand. We need Fighting-types, basically. 😛

[white meadow]

Pangoro
Toxicroak
Kommoo
Mienshao

Those would be cool

[white meadow]

flying is as common as water now ☠️

[robust geyser]

well if the palosand leak is true, it means we only have two slot left

[white meadow]

I would like a list where I can see what types we have fusion wise
Cuz Poison and Flying would loose some points
Same for normal

Like yes Dragonite is Dragon/Flying but always gives dragon

[robust geyser]

(except if palosand is a free one)

[white meadow]

1 if the leaks are true Necrozma is

[surreal chasm]

Even though my spirit has been gruesomely crushed I'm holding on to hope

[trail hull]

There also seem to be an other legendary/mythical according to leaks tho we don’t know who it is so 0 if the leaked mons are vote picks

[brisk vessel]

I sure hope its

[robust geyser]

I pray for Xerneas and Yveltal

If it's Marshadow i will uninstall life

But i'm happy bruyverne got in

[stark wolf]

Sableye was 31th when I picked him btw.

right now it's 27th on the poll so

[brisk vessel]

"31th"

[robust geyser]

how do you have the poll results ?

[stark wolf]

adding new pokemons was a collab

[stark wolf]

yeah countries outside of the US exist, give me a break it's my second language.
I make spelling error on my native language too like everyone else

[brisk vessel]

Fair enough

[fair jewel]

Strange... my list doesn't tally up with yours, did i miscount, or did the way u count differ from mine?

[prime dust]

how does it not match up?

because Blaquaza has everything correct in that pinned comment

[fair jewel]

some numbers are slightly different, like i have 1 more Grass type, 1 less water type, etc

[fair jewel]

Yeah, did a recheck on grass types, i have 19 before update. Only reason i can think he has 18 is if he doesn't count vileplume and bellosom as 2 seperate final forms

[prime dust]

you would have to cause they are 2 different mons

[grave jolt]

Morning, all!

[prime dust]

morning

[grave jolt]

How goes the Pachirisu poll
What's goin on in here atm?

[prime dust]

not much; its early so i think everyone is not awake yet [it is also monday]

[grave jolt]

mmm

[prime dust]

only thing i've really done so far is make that new tierlist

[fair jewel]

Also not sure where he got 13 fairy types before update, i counted 12 (+1 Oricorio after update)

[grave jolt]

tbqh I'm decently happy with the poll, even if Pachirisu doesn't get in.
I got Tyrunt, I got Goodra, I got Altaria... 's been pretty good pickings for me 😌

[prime dust]

it'd be wrong anyway, even if you counted pure fairy types

there's 24 mons that have the fairy typing in IF; either pure or mixed

7 pure fairy mons, the rest are mixed

[fair jewel]

???
Clefairy line
Granbull line
Togepi line
Sylveon
Jigglypuff line
Mr Mime line
Marill line
Gardevoir line
Mawile
Whimsicott line
Klefki
Mimikyu

That's 12

[tame flax]

None of the oricorios are fairy

[fair jewel]

... FCK, wait, why did i +1 to fairy?

[prime dust]

no idea

[fair jewel]

God damn, need to shift that +1 to Psychic

[prime dust]

mr mime loses fairy

only mime jr has it

[tame flax]

No he doesnt

[safe depot]

Where the hell did you get that from

[prime dust]

still half asleep then, double checking the list now

[safe depot]

I've never seen anyone claim that before

[sterile spoke]

0 if Nihilego is included. I think it'd be a bonus pick, though. 😉

[fair jewel]

@sterile spoke how did u count your numbers? They don't tally with mine

[sterile spoke]

Excluded regionals and forms. 🙂

[fair jewel]

Like i listed all 12 fairy type lines here: #pif-hoenn-discussion message
Where did u get 13? Who did i miss?

[sterile spoke]

Oh, I was only counting fully evolved forms, so I needd to remove Swablu and Noibat. 😛

[fair jewel]

So did i

[safe depot]

Honestly I hope they use the remaining spots to fill in the types with the least amount of Pokemon (Which I think are Fairy and Ghost?)

[fair jewel]

Same with your grass types having 18 when i counted 19, unless u don't count Vileplume and Bellosom as 2 seperate mons?

[sterile spoke]

Fighting, Dark, Electric, and bizarrely, Grass. 😮

[rancid lily]

nihilego is crazy

[safe depot]

Maybe Hairyama might be a good pick them, its a unique fighting type with its high HP and abilities like Thick Fat, which can balance out Fighting. That or maybe Scrafty

[prime dust]

i know why i claimed it

cause the wiki online doesn't have mr mime listed as fairy type

[cold fog]

No more flying types, plz. (Is what I understand from that graphic)

[prime dust]

he's only pure psychic on the wiki for some reason; he must have gotten the typing added on after mime jr was added in but the wiki never got updated

[safe depot]

Doesn't help that most of the Flying types aren't that great with Fusion.

[prime dust]

wasn't there a channel to report wiki errors

[safe depot]

Can we just give Pidgeot Staraptors stats?

[fair jewel]

Fighting and Fairy are currently tied at bottom at 12 lines each

[prime dust]

both are kind of understandable, as they both lack mons for typing; fighting because i think the gimmick has mainly been "its just a dude"
fairy because it is still "new"

[safe depot]

There's still some easy ones to add for each, like Florges, Hairyama, Comfey, Meinshao, or Scrafty

[prime dust]

you forgot the fighting dergin

[safe depot]

Especially Florges and Meinshao since they're humanoid and I heard those tend to get more Spriters

[prime dust]

gotta include the mixed types in that

[fair jewel]

Also curiously, Blaq's Normal types increases by 1 after the update, but none of the new mons have Normal types?

[safe depot]

I guess Comfey wouldn't be "easy" as you would have to port Triage into the game (and that could be very broken with a lot of easy set ups like D-Punch or G-Drain)

[prime dust]

blaquaza out here "leaking" the results

[safe depot]

Swablu does

[fair jewel]

Oh damn, i forgot it had normal type

[prime dust]

lol

[fair jewel]

i need to update my list

[prime dust]

most of us forget a base form has different typing than the evo

[safe depot]

I can't wait for the very cute and well designed but poor to use Altaria fusions

[prime dust]

"yeah, Swablu is just part Dergin"

[fair jewel]

Swablu being normal and flying, i wonder if it will have to follow the same rules as all normal/flying types, in the sense that it has to transfer purely flying type only

[prime dust]

my only wonk request is that the mimikyu fusion with altaria just needs to be a cloud with mimikyu eyes

[safe depot]

I imagine not since any "Normal" fusion would just become a Dragon upon evolving

[prime dust]

maybe in the shape of an altaria if you want to get specific so it still reads as altaria

[white meadow]

"we dont need gogoat"

[white meadow]

But we never heard if Nihiligo is the one they mean
Could be That mushroom or so too

[fair jewel]

Grass type? Tsareena then

[safe depot]

Man if some of the Gardevoir and Lopunny fusions could be occasionally sus, I can only imagine how bad Tsareena fusions will be

[fair jewel]

Blaq's numbers are so weird

[pale flame]

Tsareena would be a Goodra situation

[fair jewel]

Aww c'mon, u gotta trust us spriters more. We could never ever make sussy sprites

[pale flame]

They have to put up a warning in the team.

[pale flame]

I don't trust any of you fuckers except myself.

[safe depot]

Hey I fully support it

Tsareena and Salazzle are not subtle one bit so why should we?

[pale flame]

I think Tsareena could be neat, if not a bit excessive with the "waifu" Pokémon.

[fair jewel]

My sprites are completely tasteful i assure u
Well... on this server anyways

[pale flame]

Uh so we don't get banned in this Discord of children.

[safe depot]

obviously nothing explicit ofc

[pale flame]

Look, if you want to defy rule 2, go NUTS.

[safe depot]

Nah nah I won't push for anything like that

[pale flame]

👁️👃👁️

[fair jewel]

Now why would u insinuate i would? I'm perfectly innocent and will never break the rule...

[opaque ether]

Hoping the leaks are fake so we can get these four. Or at least one of them.

[safe depot]

But also have you looked at Lopunnys sprites

[pale flame]

I've only broken rule one.
Never rule two.

[safe depot]

https://if.daena.me/354/

[fair jewel]

i've been muted for rule 1

[pale flame]

Mightyena mid dog. Lycanroc peak dog.

[pale flame]

Same, twice.

[opaque ether]

All four are some of my favorites. To me, they're all peak dogs.

[pale flame]

To be fair though, I used to love Mightyena

[safe depot]

I support Lycanroc, It would be nice to have a fast Rock type for Fusions.

Combine it with something like Lucario, Haxorus or Heracross and I can imagine you'd have a monster

[prime dust]

if the leaks are real...he isn't gettin in

[pale flame]

What are the leaks, again?

[opaque ether]

|| Pallosand line and Necrozma. ||

[pale flame]

I'd be fine with that.

[prime dust]

short of a contest winner picking them

or a last minute staff addition

[safe depot]

Palo makes sense, another Ghost. (Although its typing might be a little awkward for its fusing) but Necrozma feels....redundant

[prime dust]

people are less worried about the typing for sandyghast and pallosand and more interested in the "ok, but sandcastle fusion"

[safe depot]

That's fair. the fusion potential is pretty cool

[prime dust]

as for Necrozma...we think that's due to the prism in the playtest [and the clues towards other prisms]

i think the datamine also hinted at one of the ultra areas that necrozma was from

[safe depot]

I feel like the Life and Death trio should be the legendaries added instead, they fill up Dark and Fairy and have really wicked custom sprite potential

[prime dust]

again, this is if the leak/datamine is correct; but we're limboing them until confirmation

[opaque ether]

At this point, if it's real, knowledge of them has been out for a while now. They should just outright confirm it instead of keeping everyone in limbo. You left the data in there, it happens, just own up to it.

[prime dust]

toad said he should have hid stuff better

but i don't mind the suspense a bit
datamined stuff doesn't always make it into the game

[opaque ether]

Which is true. But at that point, just outright say that they were there for testing purposes and not intended to be added yet. It'd be better to deconfirm just two individual picks out of many, then leave everyone in limbo hoping for the many when its just going to be these two afterall.

But hey, I'm not on staff. They'll run the show how they want. Guess we'll just have to wait in the dark for a bit longer.

[prime dust]

2 saturdays if they stick to revealing 2 mons at the same time

4 if they slow it down to give spriters more time to try and finish the phantump/trevenant rush

[loud depot]

spheal my boy

[oblique sigil]

I don't feel bad for the pallosand fans tbh

anyways I wouldn't mind them getting in, I just don't think an announcement for them would be worth it tbh, since they were leaked

[safe depot]

We need them ghosts

[tame flax]

Then there's also the contest winner mon

Hey whoever said no more bonus mons, I'm pretty sure anything that isn't a poll mon is a bonus mon

[clever atlas]

Pretty much yeah

[prime dust]

it would at least ease some minds; and make tierlists of what can still make it in easier

[agile olive]

haha, people were claiming there were no more bonus picks

[white meadow]

Dataminers found the name Necrozma in data near the crystals data

[prime dust]

there's been conflicting info on that

there was a post that i think got deleted which stated a contest winner would get a pick

[agile olive]

yeah that was for the uhh...trevenant rush. but by that I meant staff picks

[prime dust]

either way is bonus

[feral bear]

Oop winky face has IMPLICATIONS bonus mons incoming

[sterile spoke]

Who said that? 😮

Isn't one random line at the discretion of the contest winners already confirmed to be a thing? 🙂

[spice sage]

It is! I don't think we've done a very good job at making this known though lol

Each winner contest gets to add a line to a raffle, then at the end we'll pick one at random and add it to the game!

[silent acorn]

Hello Mr. Toad. Good day to you.

[feral bear]

So my question is, is that separate from the trevenant thing, or is that just someone getting to add a choice to the raffle?

[silent acorn]

Yeah... The confusion on that is rather widespread. But as far a we know there is an extra with the raffle albeit random

[silent acorn]

Thats a question to maybe ask Mr toad yea.

You know. To just be aware and all that. Keep the expectation real

[marsh folio]

Could you please elaborate on 'each winner contest'? Is that every contest winner?

[prime dust]

i think just every contest winner since they started the polls and have done sprite contests for revealed mons

[silent acorn]

I think a bit of clarification on the trevenant thing and the contest would be good. Like is it 1 or is it 2?

Caffeine told me yesterday it was 2 but not much on the source of that claim

[prime dust]

but yeah, i think ^ this is why people are a bit confused

conflicting info; deleted messages, etc

[silent acorn]

Conflicting info and a bit of wild speculation mostly

[spice sage]

Just the contests for the new Pokemon

[feral bear]

Swag

[spice sage]

Trevenant counts too, but it'll be one contestant picked at random instead since it doesn't have a winner per se

[restive folio]

Me and the bois waiting for necrozma and zygarde

[silent acorn]

Ah that makes sense so caffeine did say it right

[spice sage]

Yeah I really thought we'd make a post explaining this in details when we first started the contests, but I guess the contest managers preferred to keep this as a semi-secret prize or something

[prime dust]

that's fair

[feral bear]

So one potential pokemon added, contest winners and random trevenant spriter pick the possibe mons got it

[white meadow]

What happens when the same person wins more than once

[silent acorn]

Good question I wondered about that

[feral bear]

Bruxish automatically gets added

[spice sage]

They get two raffle entries, so more chance of getting their Pokémon picked

[silent acorn]

Like one of the winners came really close last time to winning again

The game of chance is real.

Man. That raffle is gonna give me anxiety

[white meadow]

Okay I ask since the Probopass guy won quiet some times if I remember right

[pale sparrow]

only once I'm pretty sure

[silent acorn]

Like on the new ones or old ones?

[spice sage]

We'll probably do the raffle live in the announcements channel with a random number generator once all the contests are done

[white meadow]

I just remember people talk about him

[spice sage]

So that you guys know it isn't fake

[silent acorn]

Oh no. Rngesus!

Well let's hope we have fun.

[pale sparrow]

That sounds fun

[white meadow]

When your here can I ask how exactly the problem works with the above gen 7 mons aka 8+9

[pale sparrow]

(Watch the raffle somehow end in another dragon type being added even though there are barely any left that even could be added )

[spice sage]

Yeah I'm pretty excited for it 😄 I can't say which Pokemon were picked already but there are some interesting choices in there for sure thus far

[pale sparrow]

I'm all here for obscure picks!

[spice sage]

Same tbh

[civic harness]

Oh well

[silent acorn]

I mean raffle is extra at that I point I Dont care

[crude garden]

Interesting is exciting

[white meadow]

My fav mons are in the rest is just good bonus

[crude garden]

Maybe it'll be kommo-o for dragon type sweep

[pale sparrow]

at least that would finally be a fighting type lmao

[silent acorn]

Atleast kommo does give another fighting type :v

[civic harness]

I dont think we'll get any more dragon types

[feral bear]

It will not be kommoo

[silent acorn]

Dunno watch it be kommo

[crude garden]

Random is random, if it happens it happens

[feral bear]

It was decides by rhe old gods and new

[rough hound]

I just want my beloveds

[pale sparrow]

I still have a slimmer of hope for either Mienshao or Nihilego to somehow make it in

[silent acorn]

Like the people who pick what goes into the raffle are random so... It could be nasty twist of fate but honestly I would blame that more on contest winner using that one chance to not add something interesting to just be funny

[civic harness]

Well, we already have the cloud bird and Noivern

[feral bear]

The only way kommoo gets in is if a contest winner or rando trev picks it

[rough hound]

If yall are looking for a fighting type, toxicroak is a beast with knife hands

[feral bear]

And they're all pretty biased towards a poke rn, except trev of course

[crude garden]

Yeah that's what I mean

[feral bear]

Omg if the trev spriter wins the raffle AND picks kommoo im calling the police

[pale sparrow]

[civic harness]

well, I hope the last 4 are not disappointing

[pale sparrow]

dw they'll pick lego gen 5 dragon instead, all is good

[civic harness]

KAJAJAJAJ

[pale sparrow]

who is your name adressed to btw, what cute mon have we even gotten so far?

[rough hound]

If we're getting another dragon itd probably be dragalge

[feral bear]

Dragalge would be exquisite

[civic harness]

Altaria

[pale sparrow]

I'd trade every dragon we've gotten for dragalge

[pale sparrow]

but altaria is clearly a high potential mon and not just cute 🤨

[feral bear]

But the last 4 have already been decided and confirmed

By me and the Lord 😇

[rough hound]

I want my mawalge

[civic harness]

They are creating cute fusions with this one, its potential is more relevant due to its cloud but it has clear limitations as the head of the fusion, well in my opinion it does not have a big enough potential

[mystic crystal]

Altaria had loads of potential; of all the dragon types that have been added that's been my clear favourite - cute fluffy head fusions and cool weather body fusions

[feral bear]

I love altaria and altaria fusions, but I definitely agree that it doesnt have as much potential as my confirmed number 1 pick ms. Aromatisse

Yea but thats like, 2 things lol some pokemon have like over a dozen motifs to utilize

[civic harness]

And what I have in my name is just a warning of the dark times that could have come but since the votes have closed I should change it

[rough hound]

altaria has potential for sure, but i think of all the mons weve gotten so far that unfortunately cloud birb has got the least

[pale sparrow]

L take

[civic harness]

Well, the problem with fusions as a body is that it is limited to having a material covering the body, it could be used but every pokemon has its limit

[silent acorn]

I dunno altaria rids of the need for the sky dudes

[rancid lily]

did you see what blaquaza said?

[pale sparrow]

no

[civic harness]

KAJAJAJAJA

[rancid lily]

@pale sparrow this is what he said

[pale sparrow]

huh

[feral bear]

Like aromatisse can have cute fusions, makeup/perfume theme, girl bod theme, fashion/yassification, plague doctor/horror theme, fur texture

[silent acorn]

I think necrozma as a bonus would be a blessing

[rough hound]

I just wanna cook man

[silent acorn]

Me when I vote the mon I don't love:

[white meadow]

aromatisse is indeed horror for my eyes

[silent acorn]

What's eye candy for your eyes... Atleast of the stuff not in

[white meadow]

tbh i have no idea

[feral bear]

Bruxish

[white meadow]

but i do know what pokemon i don't like

[civic harness]

I see that the votes are going well, so all good

[sterile spoke]

Altaria's one that might not be strong, but has a bunch of potential. Cloudy fusions weren't a full thing prior to this (Drifloon and Whimsicott were the closest that I can remember), so it adds a whole new texture. 😄

[feral bear]

Entei!

[sterile spoke]

Entei's a Legendary, so I don't really count it. 😛

[feral bear]

My enraicune is 80% cloud

[civic harness]

Well, you know that I look for the potential in fusions

[rough hound]

i agree that cloud texture is fun, but i think altaria is my least favorite reveal so far (all of em are solid, but someones gotta take last place)

[rancid lily]

cotton guard my beloved (Yall forgot about this)

[feral bear]

Altaria is one of my all time favs, but i kinda figured in the beginning that it wouldnt get in, since its not really known for beinf a fan favorite so i didnt put it on my list

[silent acorn]

I didnt, I know it's a strong point with altaria more unique than boomburst honestly

Not gonna get over that, yall with your pixelates and adaptabilities

[feral bear]

Hateration!!!!

[silent acorn]

I liked the storm drain strat better

[civic harness]

Well, maybe I shouldnt force people since everyone has their opinion and way of seeing things

KAJAJAJ

[sterile spoke]

Does that mean in terms of design, or aesthetic? 😮

[white meadow]

but that's totally™️ the purpose of this channel!

[sterile spoke]

Also, speaking of design, Altaria was actually the number one pick of the Spriter-only poll that Frogman (to my knowledge) hasn't looked at. 😄

[silent acorn]

Quite frankly I see more potential to altaria than noivern, mostly cuz altaria has more going on than being a boom box and bat

[feral bear]

It means like, only choosing mons with a large number of unique motifs that can be utilized as a theme for fusions

[civic harness]

Design and possibilities

[sterile spoke]

Well, apart from Sableye, who'd already been confirmed during the polling period. 😛

[silent acorn]

I am sorry but crank that boom box would you souljas?

[feral bear]

Its alll about the motifs lol

[rough hound]

actually, blaquaza while youre here. after this is all over, do you guys plan on releasing the vote results so we can see how close our mons were?

[sterile spoke]

On average, less than 3% gave Swablu and Altaria a 0 in the Spriter-only poll. 😄

[civic harness]

KAJAJAJAJAJA

[silent acorn]

Wanna cry blood? Lol

[rough hound]

yea

[silent acorn]

Not a good mon yeah right......

[feral bear]

Noivern has sooo much more potential than altaria lol its not even a contest

[sterile spoke]

Meaning over 97% of people were at least okay with them getting in. 🙂

[silent acorn]

What about noisevern how much negative on that one

[civic harness]

Yes

[sterile spoke]

This is for the Spriter-only poll, by the way, not the official one. I can't see the official one's results and haven't been able to for some time. 😛

[silent acorn]

I mean the cat is outta the bag now so

[silent acorn]

So like only 3% of the spriters gave it like a 1 or 0? neato

[sterile spoke]

Noibat had around 7.5% 0s. 😅

These very likely don't reflect the official results, though. 😮

[sterile spoke]

No, only 3% gave it a 0 at all. 😛

[silent acorn]

It does reflect preference though lol

Explains why It didn't fully blow up on Spritework

[sterile spoke]

3 is the one that means people wanted it, by the way. 😄

[silent acorn]

Also explains how altaria got in, if general consensus is that its not a bad mon then that's explains it. It had higher averages across the board.

[civic harness]

I should change the thing of my name

[sterile spoke]

0 means people didn't want it. 😮

[white meadow]

3% of 0 doesn't tell that much tbh, for all i know it could just mean that the other 97% gave it a 1

[silent acorn]

Actually curious about the whole poll, I wonder what was the top for the spriters?

[rough hound]

im curious about both polls

[silent acorn]

Hey it got in like noivern did that means it did something right

I think having the results of the other poll would be useful for future reference could show what could encourage Spriters the most to make fusions.

[sterile spoke]

I already said it was Swablu (excluding Sableye, who already got in). 😛

[sterile spoke]

20% gave it a 1, compared to 24% for Noibat. 😉

[trail hull]

So 72% gave it a 2 or higher

[sterile spoke]

Yep! 😄

[floral flame]

How many Pokemon slots are even left at this point? Must've revealed most all of them by this point right?

[silent acorn]

It was swablu?! Really?

[sterile spoke]

Yes. 🙂

[hushed mantle]

4

[sterile spoke]

At least 5. 😛

[silent acorn]

Ooooh. Brutal! Something guided my hand wow

[floral flame]

Dang yeah, not much left! Will be interesting to see how they decide these final few.

[feral bear]

Oh here we go lol

[sterile spoke]

I just really want a Fighting-type and/or Ribombee. 😢

[feral bear]

Ribombee will be added

[trail hull]

We can’t get everything

[sterile spoke]

If we get two more non-bonus lines, I want Pangoro and Ribombee, but I don't think they'll get anywhere near enough votes. 😦

[hushed mantle]

There’s 1 more slot?

[trail hull]

Sadly

[feral bear]

Last 4 slots are ribombee and aromatisse

[trail hull]

Sprite rush pick

[mystic crystal]

At least 5? So Cosmog isn't deconfirmed 😰

[trail hull]

It is

As the 5 is from the sprite rush so 4 from vote

[floral flame]

I feel like Altaria is going to make for some amazing primary fusions, but Noivern has a lot of potential for super cool secondary fusions. So both are good inclusions.

[rough hound]

bt the way, we only have 4 staff picks i think. but theres definitely more than 4 mods. do yall think theyre waiting to add suspense or just not getting staff votes?

[silent acorn]

Eh. Give altaria the crown. That birb struggled getting there

[silent acorn]

Oh man I want that panda so bad.

[feral bear]

It has a lot of head potential too! Tons of motifs to work with

[surreal chasm]

I made another Palossand sprite

[silent acorn]

Hey.... If we get Palossand... Do you make an altaria/Palossand sky castle?

[trail hull]

Let palossand join

[feral bear]

Let me guess, another building? Lol

[surreal chasm]

omg yes

[trail hull]

If he gets in I’ll make a snorunt sand castle

[mystic crystal]

nah, the mods all picked together - the other three picks were from the person helping to add more pokémon (sableye), Kiwi (Oricorio) and the Frogman himself. So there's probably no more staff picks

[feral bear]

Maybe a school this time, a walmart perhaps

[rough hound]

man, i wanted more staff picks =T

[tame flax]

I'm sure there'll be more bonuses

We already know about one more bonus mon, the contest winner mon

[rough hound]

should we start a thing where we all come together and ask for every mod to get a pick?

[tame flax]

Nah

[hexed agate]

Howl's moving castle?

[civic harness]

Oh

[sterile spoke]

That'd lead to like 50 additions, which is just too many. 😢

[trail hull]

We might have the rotom forms and giratina’s as well as the starters

[tame flax]

I'm sure everything will get added eventually

[sterile spoke]

As much as I'd love to force Ribombee in. 😛

[rough hound]

wait, how many mods ARE there?

[civic harness]

KAJAJAJA

[hexed agate]

Ribombee would be cool

[sterile spoke]

Very unlikely, but less unlikely than it used to be. 😅

[sterile spoke]

If every Staff member gets 1-5 Pokémon each depending on the size of the line, it adds up very quickly. 😛

Oh, did you specifically just mean Mods? 😮

[white meadow]

the new reveal was kinda funny, if that would be the right word

[rough hound]

yep

[hexed agate]

I always forget Sprite Managers are actually Staff

[mystic crystal]

Yes, only the mods get staff picks that surely won't cause any internal conflicts

[tame flax]

I'm sure they are getting added, I think that was part of the oricorio reveal

[sterile spoke]

I wouldn't object to you banding around to ask about that so I can force Ribombee in, but I don't think it'll happen. 😛

[white meadow]

you’d think sandyghast and pallosand are getting added because of the sandcastle, but nope

[feral bear]

Good, palossand is so boring lol

[surreal chasm]

That could be Klingklang/Palossand

[tame flax]

I'm still pretty confident they're getting in

[rough hound]

you heard em yall, lets get the mods their votes!

[surreal chasm]

nuh uh

[feral bear]

Yeah ive seen that 5 times now, thats the pic im referring to when i say that palossand fusions are just buildings and sandcastles lol

[mystic crystal]

I have a Dusknoir/Pallossand design that i'm super proud of but I don't think it's getting in anymore so 😅

[white meadow]

I’m gonna have my next run use new Pokémon

[tame flax]

I'm still pretty confident about palossand

[feral bear]

Like dont get me wrong the art is great, but it almost takes me out immersion wise when theyre literally just hospitals and places of business and such lol

[last pecan]

"just buildings and sandcastles" thats more then Just a Bat

[rough hound]

so guys, how should we go about this movement? is a hashtag too out of style?

[sterile spoke]

Especially when we already have a bat. 😂

[hexed agate]

Can we get Swoobat next?

[last pecan]

we dont have buildings or sandcastles yet,

[feral bear]

Oh noivern beats it by a country mile, we have something that looks like an animal for one, also it has sound, unique body type, objectmon motif, vampire/horror theme, etc

[alpine rune]

hot take but ratatta is just a rat🙄

[trail hull]

Tumbler style: #givethemodsstaffpick #totallynotwantingthatforpersonalreasons

[hexed agate]

Noivern barely fits a canvas lol

Ridley Syndrome

[rough hound]

im down lol. NEW PROPOGANDA YALL, LETS GET TO WORK

[sterile spoke]

Noivern will be problematic, yeah. 😢

Whereas Palossand is just cool. 🙂

[last pecan]

Unique Body Type
Sand
Beach
Building

boom

[surreal chasm]

which is precisely why I became so fixated on Palossand's fusion potential (even though im not much of a fan of the pokemon itself)

[last pecan]

palossand is based as hell

[sterile spoke]

Sandygast / Drifloon could be a beach ball, for example. 😄

With enough sand still present, obviously. 🙂

[feral bear]

Buildings are not pokemon tho lol

[hexed agate]

Palossand and P-Z would be a firewall

[last pecan]

and then Drifloon/Sandygast as a bouncy castle

[mystic crystal]

I've been trying to not be too negative towards Noivern because apparently it was the number 1 pick and also I don't want to start any drama but like... I really don't see any unique things it brings that we either don't already have or couldn't have gotten with a (non-dragon) pokémon

[last pecan]

Stakataka, Duraladon and Palossand disagree

[tame flax]

Who decides that? Pokemon are magical creatures that can take any shape and size, even buildings

[rough hound]

#givethemodsstaffpick

[trail hull]

And so is internet (porygon fusions )yet we have a lot of internet themed fusion

[surreal chasm]

I just made a new Palossand sprite btw#1155870184448462958

[civic harness]

Stakataka?

[feral bear]

The pokemon themselves are not the problem, but if we are just going to make buildings eith pokemon colors, thats the issue i am referring to

[hexed agate]

We make swords with pokemon colors lol

[tame flax]

You seem to be the only one who sees that as an issue

[hexed agate]

We also make keys and rocks with pokemon colors

[sterile spoke]

And keys, and rubbish, and magnets. 🙂

[feral bear]

I never claimed that i was the majority, just that i did not like!

[hexed agate]

Chandelier gang rise up

[feral bear]

I just dont find having a hotel on my team as compelling as any of those things

[hexed agate]

Tbf, I personally prefer inanimate pokemon

[feral bear]

And i would prefer the alternatives over it for sure

[trail hull]

1 simple solution : dont catch it and slaughter every trainer who dare to have one of these fusions

[surreal chasm]

Maybe not but you can't ignore the fact it would bring something new to the game

[slate gazelle]

i would love to have a hotel on my team

[hexed agate]

Also we gave so many examples and left out poor Bastiodon

[rough hound]

since nobody seems to be replying, imma just do an interest check. who wants to start a peaceful movement to get staff picks for all the mods?

[hexed agate]

I would love a Bastiodon/Palossand that's a Bastille

[feral bear]

Oh it def brings something new to the game, its just not as compelling or interesting to me is all

[violet current]

i just want a silly sphinx fusion on my team, simple as

[rough hound]

yall think i know what the zebstrika emote means lmao

[trail hull]

Palossand/Luxray

[hexed agate]

Palossand and Ampharos to make a lighthouse

[violet current]

or an altaria/palossand thats the sand bird from mario sunshine

[feral bear]

And as i mentioned before, the building aspect almost takes me out immersion wise

[slate gazelle]

Staff picks are my only hope for Zebstrika

[silent acorn]

I think we could use pangoro and Toxicroak atleast they are solid fighters. Or there is mienshao.

[hexed agate]

Cacturne would be awesome

[violet current]

aegislash/palossand thats a shiny glass sword

[silent acorn]

Mienshao is brutal not gonna lie that thing being a physical glass Canon is strong.

[hexed agate]

Give me the gunslinger cactus

[violet current]

theres so many neat ideas without the building concept u can do with palossand

[tame flax]

Or kommo-o

[hexed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/cacturne-pokemon-gif-25124751

[feral bear]

I guess glass fusions are the silver lining with pallossand, but im still against it fundamentally lolol

[silent acorn]

People who proclaim maractus as queen cactus suck. We all know in this old west there is only space for the needle bullets.

[feral bear]

Its almost definitely a bonus mon tho so my opinion doesnt really matter anyway

[violet current]

can't two cactus baddies coexist?

[silent acorn]

It matters cuz we see you mald.

[rough hound]

alright, for those of yall interested in my movement i think our best first move is to start up the propoganda again! only this time, its propoganda to get the mods their picks. any ideas?

[silent acorn]

Ok coexistence is the only solution to this bloody war.

[hexed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/ロケット団-コジロウ-アニポケ-james-team-rocket-gif-25140782

[surreal chasm]

I really hope Palossand will be next week's reveal

[hexed agate]

Mod pick justice

[silent acorn]

Well we know kiwis weakness is bruxsish so that's one to add to the list. As much as we hate the thought

[feral bear]

Mald lol no, malding is the people who have been talking ish on altaria and noivern for the past 3 days nonstop

[tame flax]

If everyone gets one, didn't she use hers on oricorio?

[silent acorn]

You don't even bring up your own pick up at all hahaha

[rough hound]

since i suck at art, im thinking ill just give some random fusions badly photoshopped picket signs. how about yall?

[silent acorn]

For the sake of variety and community she did. But probably out of personal selfless sacrifice

[slate gazelle]

honestly I see potential in almost every Pokémon (sorry Pikachu clones) and I wish we had more slots

[feral bear]

Aromatisse? Shes confirmed 😎

[surreal chasm]

I mean... The didn't really explain why the sand castle shook so much in the first place... Maybe it was forshadowing for Palossand after all

[silent acorn]

To be honest I just think pangoro solves quite well the problem of the dark and fighting accessibility. Its a single line that's not all complicated to get and it's decently strong.

[feral bear]

Simple explanation: kiwi is a sand hater like me lol

[slate gazelle]

Perhaps Noivern using Boomburst?

[surreal chasm]

Shhh let me have this

[silent acorn]

It is the sand castle my toilet told me

[violet current]

pangoro would def be like route 3 in modern mode

[tame flax]

I think kiwi fully intended to reveal palossand Saturday and didn't learn about the leaks until the day of, panicked, stalled for time to make more comics, which is why several were just zoom ins

[silent acorn]

Its a good mon honestly it is a great staff pick to solve that issue.

Also its like a jojo, yakuza, kung fu panda, ying yang, ancient ferocious fighter the use is there.

[feral bear]

Thats absolutely not what happened lol

[violet current]

plus its got all the staples of good fusions

-cute first stage
-"edgy"/cool second stage
-unique theme

[tame flax]

It explains why it was stalled for like, what, 4 or 5 hours?

[elfin dust]

So what are we up to today ladies and gents

[silent acorn]

On top of being a bear pokemon of course. And can easily synergyze with ghost types I don't know what the downside with that one is.

[feral bear]

She admitted she was trolling, and the leaks have been common knowledge for weeks they were literally in the playtest channel live reacting

[tame flax]

And I don't recall any react having that many layers

[violet current]

abt to hop on photoshop and workshop a gunslinger maractus cuz im inspired

[tame flax]

She didn't even know sableye was a bonus mon until the other day, there isn't as much communication as you'd think

[elfin dust]

Sounds fun, make it a cowboy/girl maractus

[feral bear]

Sis they literally came into chat and explained the exact circumstances behind all the things youre referencing, we dont have to speculate lol

[violet current]

that's the plan, cacturne/maractus

[tame flax]

Have you considered its a front so that there can be an attempt at a surprise when they try to reveal palossand again?

[silent acorn]

Actually nope. Someone else outside the team came to clarify that up.

[elfin dust]

Gunslinging cactus with pin needle bullets is 👌

[mystic crystal]

Nah, I think they knew exactly what they were doing - Frog probably expected people to snoop around the code, so he added "fake" leaks in to troll people - like Palossand. Then they just made a reveal around people's expectations to still have the surprise factor.
At this point, the four slots left are all after the pseudo so I fully expect them all to be mythical/legendaries at this point

[tame flax]

If your job is to make a surprise reveal, and the surprise is ruined, doesn't it make sense to mislead in order to try and make it a surprise again?

[feral bear]

Thats a bold assumption, but id be lying if i said there wasnt a possibility it could be a conspiracy!

[feral bear]

What are you talking about lol kiwi and toad themselves had these discussions in chat

[hexed agate]

We can still fit Kommo-o

[silent acorn]

Where is the microwave beam so I can shoot you tin foil wearing people

I think a good side effect of the noivern hype is that people literally had no other time to hype something else up.

Noivern literally worked as an escape goat to mislead the hype people who basically ruin whatever they touch.

[feral bear]

Escape goat?!?!?!

[tame flax]

Also as far as whether or not the leak is credible, other mons accidentally got into the playtest, and were immediately called out to be a mistake with the program, like finneon, if sandygast was like that, why was no comment ever made?

[silent acorn]

Could literally have gotten another 3 stage line if it wasn't for that.

[silent acorn]

Finneon was found?

[trail hull]

No he didn’t except it

[tame flax]

Yeah, people were finding finneon, but it was a problem with the dex and when brought up it was immediately explained

[feral bear]

Thanks foe following that up i was about to go off lmaoo

[tame flax]

No comment was ever made about sandygast being in the data

[silent acorn]

Weird...finneon destruction complete?

[trail hull]

Necrozma and sandyghast weren’t also unlike the other they were just found in the code not in game

[silent acorn]

I think it would be pretty dissapointing if pallosand was a hoax, so much hype and interest into making castle pokemon... Man... M

[tame flax]

Isn't it odd to call out one mon as an accident but not another?

[hexed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-1896328487164896205

[feral bear]

Yeah yall are def building castles in the air if anything, with ur escape goats n whatnot 🐐

[trail hull]

Also frogman acknowledged the leaks very quickly and said I didn’t hid them well enough but he was fine with the leaks

[silent acorn]

You know those times when you play games and you have to fight a boss that's literally a structure? You could that yourself with pallosand would be hella fun

Like imagine sending out pokeycenter cuz you fused pallosand with chansey lol

[tame flax]

Yeah, but he made no comments on the details of the leaks

[trail hull]

Because they were messed up in the index for sandyghast it was literally written sandyghast is an encounter

[silent acorn]

I mean the hivemind went for dragons but the comments on stuff like kommo-o were left forgotten. Apparently the mob forgot to vote more than noivern and goodra.

[rough hound]

so it begins

[silent acorn]

Neat

[tame flax]

Couldn't that also mean that encounters could have been mass deleted, and that particular one slipped by because it was the only misspelled sandygast?

[rough hound]

heres one without my face if yall wanna edit things onto it instead

[trail hull]

It wasn’t misspelled

[silent acorn]

Hey what would blaquaza get now that I think about it

[rough hound]

they mentioned ribombee or pangoro i think

[silent acorn]

Let me guess.. Blacephalon to make his rayquaza a blaquaza right?

[silent acorn]

Like I love pangoro I think it should be in alongside Toxicroak. Both of those are awesome

[rough hound]

WE SHALL BRING JUSTICE FOR THE MODS

[silent acorn]

Like making your little gangster team with the assassin and yakuza

[sturdy breach]

Kommo-o is generally less liked tbf

[trail hull]

Yeah it’s totally for the mod

[silent acorn]

I dunno if the people had more of a thought than noivern and goodra they might have realized they could just vote kommo o to get another free dragon but there wasn't consensus on that

[rough hound]

i mean, chances are their picks wont even line up with ours. i just think its fun to cause chaos

[sturdy breach]

I can tell you for me it was pretty low on the list, personally 🙂

[silent acorn]

Huh. What was your other pick stuff nep?

[sturdy breach]

Then again, I don't vote types

[silent acorn]

I think it was lurantis and... Uh..

[sturdy breach]

This was my 20tiles before Tyrantrum was picked

[rough hound]

hm, i wonder if i should try and sprite a pokemon with a picket sign

[alpine rune]

What's going on here

Felt like I missed something important

[silent acorn]

Ok. So... We missing salazzle, lurantis, aurorus, meloetta.

[rough hound]

rebellion

[sturdy breach]

and the goat

[silent acorn]

They are letting mods pick stuff

[untold spire]

They are?

[alpine rune]

Isn't mods already a part of staff by default?

[silent acorn]

I am counting the ones where our votes align

[alpine rune]

So we expecting another staff pick?

[silent acorn]

Would be like very wonderful

To just know the left slots are up on the air still

[rough hound]

not all the mods have gotten a pick so far, and it seems like they dont plan on giving em any. so im demanding justice

[sturdy breach]

But I guess I would have had a free slot on my 20s after all

[alpine rune]

Time to Speedrun getting the role

[trail hull]

No they are starting a propaganda for it

[untold spire]

Ah gotcha

[sturdy breach]

I got 10/19 correct, I must be basic as fuck 😄

[rough hound]

so guys, not many people actually check this channel. whats our chances of getting bonked if we spread the rebellion to other channels (we usually would, but considering we're advocating for the mods they might give us a pass)

[untold spire]

Very high

[alpine rune]

Would be funny tho

[sturdy breach]

I would say about 100%

[rough hound]

i mean, technically it doesnt belong here either since it isnt about the new additions

i think #game-suggestions may be somewhere we wouldnt get bonked

anyways, we probably wont get anywhere without a few mods on our side advocating for themselves. who do yall think are most likely to join us?

[alpine rune]

Only blaquaza

The rest would feel neutral / don't care lol

[rough hound]

no other mods would want their own staff pick?

[alpine rune]

Vince would probably want dragalgae

Idk what Blaq wants

Milian would laugh at the notion

would

Gastly would be clueless to what's going on

[rough hound]

i just wanna let the mods cook

[alpine rune]

Oakwood would reply in French

And... that's pretty much it for my prediction

[slate gazelle]

.

[silent acorn]

Depends if we are not making spam could work a bit

[alpine rune]

Oh, well then there's nothing to worry about

Blaq would just pick Aurorus or Cresselia for the sake of completion ig

[silent acorn]

To be honest blaq list is the most based of this whole freaking channel

[rough hound]

he mentioned hed actually probably go with ribombee or pangoro

[silent acorn]

No less because they didn't go for the same stuff as everyone else

[alpine rune]

Term would pick a crab Mon, so either crabrawler or crawdaunt

[slate gazelle]

how many slots are left?

[silent acorn]

Clawitzer

[silent acorn]

Around 4

[alpine rune]

That too but that's more so a shrimp

[silent acorn]

Its a badass cannon shrimp the specifics don't matter

[rough hound]

if anyone here thinks theyre able to get a mod on our side, then shoot them a ping and we can explain the rebellion

[silent acorn]

To be honest it's not a bad idea. We could at the very least try to push for a necessary mon

[alpine rune]

You need to have rizz

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/est-este-esteban-hey-gif-18079223

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-x2-robo-ky-bridget-guten-tag-gif-26557652

[silent acorn]

Lets be honest. The panda should be a community petition people already have the dragon they wanted what do we lose adding the panda?

[rough hound]

So much rizz my discord jusy randomly crashed

[silent acorn]

I honestly don't have much stakes on this except the panda now. Froslass is all the maidens I need

[alpine rune]

We all know we aren't here for the gameplay, just the cool fusions

[silent acorn]

hey there let me offer you a deal

[silent acorn]

And the freaking yakuza panda isn't cool. What universe do you live in?

[alpine rune]

VGC Regulation E

Idk I just vote things that has gameplay, but seems like I'm in the minority (rip hail teams)

[silent acorn]

let me tell ya bruh, the panda is good its in its nature to be good.

[rough hound]

Let the mods cook

[loud fable]

Problem imo is just bodyshape, ursurang just does it already

[silent acorn]

JUST DO IT MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE

[loud fable]

Or hell even slaking

[silent acorn]

Ursaring isn't punching anything. Also ursa is bland and won't get a new Evo.

Freaking Ursaring is less intimidating than freaking magcargo

[loud fable]

Honestly I actually looked at it and don't give ursurang that much shit
130 attack plus it still has guts

[fallen loom]

YES, now people WANT Pangoro! Too little too late though :/

[fallen loom]

Ursaring in SV can also hold Eviolite

[loud fable]

Plus although not allowed in competitive battling, pre burnt with another item

[surreal chasm]

Amen

[loud fable]

Could do the same with toxic heal gliscor now featuring leftovers (if faster they will substitute toxic stall you)

[marsh yew]

Ursaring has always been Normal-type Machamp, and, even if not in a great place competitively, would be VERY low in the priority for getting an evolution IMO

[silent acorn]

Its when people bring stuff like "It's already on the game, it has this! It has that!" that you get the worst options. Granted noivern isn't fully bad but there is stuff that is.

[marsh yew]

I honestly want Dragalge to fuse it with Kingdra; ultimate seahorse and all that

[rough hound]

Join my movement then, if the mods all get staff picks then dragalge has a garunteed spot

[silent acorn]

Wanted to mention guts isn't the an ultra ability. Pangoro gets iron fist and mold breaker. Something only pangoro gets is parting shot.

[tame flax]

I dont think that's gonna work out

[loud fable]

Which in if does have some use due to normal ghost typings

[fallen loom]

I'd rather Pancham TBH and I DO like Draglage, just we already have enough Poison and Dragon types as-is

[loud fable]

I really want more ice types overall

Its the most lacking type for if overall