pif-hoenn-discussion

[lusty oxide]

You forgot no keyboard and electricity

[tame flax]

We finna get the slurpuff surprise

[lusty oxide]

Nah we gonna get the Swoobat surprise

[tame flax]

Slurpuff slurprise

[lusty oxide]

Swoobat swuprise

[silent acorn]

Swoobat sweep totally not the obvious other bat

[lusty oxide]

What other bat there was only one bat in the vote

[tame flax]

Is this a bit?

[lusty oxide]

Swoobat was the only one

[silent acorn]

Ya know the other bat archenemesis of sylveon

The bane of all options, eating slurpuff tears everyday

Defluffer of aromatisse

[lusty oxide]

Nah have bonsly tears instead

[tame flax]

How tf would a noivern make slurpuff cry?

[lusty oxide]

What’s “noivern”

[tame flax]

Idk if you realize this, slurpuff is a sleeper hit

[tame flax]

A wannabe

[silent acorn]

Vaccumla

[lusty oxide]

Watches are wannabes

[tame flax]

Sorry, I don't speak french

[silent acorn]

N'entendez-vous pas l'appel ? Les fées se recroquevillent dans la peur. A l'évocation du dragon venu sucer le son.

[terse fable]

#français got you fam

[silent acorn]

Still related to this channel monsieur

[tame flax]

I make it a point not to learn languages built on the concept of having filler letters in every word

[lusty oxide]

Sill don’t speak French though

[silent acorn]

Boiteuse
That means understandable.

[tame flax]

I imagine only 4 of those letters are used in the pronunciation

[lusty oxide]

To be fair English also has words with filler letters like “knight”

[tame flax]

And you know what? French has been used as the base for the Romanization of another language once to my knowledge

[silent acorn]

Nah French it's own can of worms, has nothing with Italian, spanish or Portuguese

Like between the last three I told you about there is a connection that allows us to understand gibberish a little bit

[tame flax]

what french romanization did to vietnamese should be considered a warcrime that the french government ought to be paying money to the vietnamese government for forgiveness

[silent acorn]

French is a bunch of nonsense that makes about as much sense as me speaking Chinese without knowing chinese

[tame flax]

Phuc Dat Bich is a vietnamese name

[silent acorn]

Guess what Salle de Bain means

[tame flax]

hey guess what?

[lusty oxide]

Isn’t that a bathtub?

[silent acorn]

Come on, I am waiting to hear it, nope

[lusty oxide]

I haven’t used French since I stopped learning it in school so my French is terrible now

[tame flax]

because of the freaky deaky francois, it looks totally different from how it sounds

[silent acorn]

Want an example of language nonsense?
Bathroom is baño in spanish, bagno in Italian and banho in Portuguese tell me how this is related in any way to Salle de bain

Seriously who separated the damn word

[tame flax]

before i try to explain

is the n in bain silent?

[hexed agate]

Banheiro in português

[hexed agate]

Room of bath

[silent acorn]

The In is silent. Still shorter than Salle de bain my friend

I am not a speaker of Portuguese specially since there is the Brazilian variety and the Portuguese variety

And even then I can still understand due to the phonetic similarity but like French is like hearing a turkey gargle while having a fork stuck on its throat

[tame flax]

wait, so the Bain is just pronounced Ba?

[silent acorn]

Very very nassak.

Bain is just ba

Try it on the translator you are gonna see

There is a reason why spanish and Portuguese are more common languages to learn than french

By the way have I mentioned that even within France itself there is no consistency? It's a Franco lingua meaning that its ultra restricted on variety, like haiti has that but they prefer their creole for simplicity

[tame flax]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-shotgun-lets-go-gif-13851948 me when i find the mf who thought silent letters was important enough to fuck 2 languages

[lusty oxide]

I just want to talk to him

[silent acorn]

Lack of consistency is the worst thing with language

[tame flax]

apparently, at one point, there were no silent letters in french, its a british accent situation

[lusty oxide]

Bri’ish

[tame flax]

fun fact, the British accent came about when aristocrats wanted to sound better than everyone else, and everyone else in the country copied them

[silent acorn]

You blud let me see that bloody encyclopedia thou peasant

[long mist]

almost got my ass kicked by a keckleon/flygon agaisnt giovanni on celadon, god that was awful

[tame flax]

so the next time you hear an american redneck speak, live with the forbidden knowledge his english accent is more authentic than an actual brits

[silent acorn]

Aristocrat=nasal

[silent acorn]

When you fake your accent for clout and it becomes a cultural thing you gotta question is that real butter

I seriously seriously hate folk who use "blud couldn't take my comedy genius 💀"

[long mist]

really?? how is that an actual thing

[tame flax]

its a fact i love to pull on brits who insist americans are faking their accents

[tame flax]

you know the kylie jenner challenge? that but people did it with their accent

[lusty oxide]

That’s because everyone is faking accents cos accents aren’t real

[long mist]

what on god's green earth is the kylie jenner challenge

[silent acorn]

My guy that's like saying that only the folk on the US who speak Spanish are the real users of it when there is so much more density elsewhere

[tame flax]

oh thats different, our accent didnt change as wildly because we didnt actively go out of our way to change it to sound posh

my spanish accent has nothing on a proper spanish accent

[silent acorn]

Ah that the accent everywhere else changed because everyone was too lazy to try to copy someone else

Like proper spanish accent isnt even something real anymore because it changes all the time, so no one says "my accent is so real" nah the real one is like oldest one

https://tenor.com/view/inquisition-monty-python-spanish-inquisition-walk-in-gif-17117394

Like this old

[lusty oxide]

That was unexpected

[tame flax]

by everywhere else do you mean the island where people were tricked into thinking isolation would save them and immediately regret it?

[silent acorn]

Anyway that's enough side tracking on culture

Point is French is weird

[tame flax]

very

[lusty oxide]

What about Dutch

Alr what do you think “Duits” means?

[silent acorn]

Doodoo

[long mist]

yes

when you think about it every country with a romance language as their mother tongue is weird

[silent acorn]

I mean spanish is one of the lesser weird because it's mostly slang and there is universal words, Portuguese gets a bit more complicated and French gets downright unfair

[thorny ferry]

Why tf are you talking about languages in this channel

The topic must've went wild very quickly

[lusty oxide]

I mean this is #pif-hoenn-discussion this channel can’t stay on topic for 5 minutes

[terse fable]

Veered a little #off-topic and got a lil silly I see

[long mist]

yeah I know, I am a native spanish speaker I know, and portuguese allthough a bit more complicated its essentially spanish put in a blender cause I can understand some of it and I dont know portuguese, and french yeah its so dumb

[gilded eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-axe-sane-insane-silly-gif-24529074

[lusty oxide]

Sanity sounds horrible

Good thing I’m not sane

[thorny ferry]

Completamente cierto (escribir en portugués ya es una cosa aparte, por supuesto )

[long mist]

obviamente, en pronunciacion se entiende pero en escritura definitivamente no

[silent acorn]

Hola estimado usuario ñ, como aprecio a mis compatriotas

Flex that ñ

[thorny ferry]

Omg como en among us (somos los impostores )

[long mist]

es raro ver a alguien que hable español en una comunidad de habla inglesa

[silent acorn]

Always have been, estamos entre todos

[alpine rune]

I didn't know I went to Mexico, mb

[long mist]

you american rite?

[lusty oxide]

Wat zijn jullie zelfs aan het zeggen?

[alpine rune]

No

[crude garden]

Arigato

[silent acorn]

Generalmente usamos inglés así que por eso nos pasamos sin notarnos entre nosotros

[silent acorn]

He unovan, we in pokemon regions, we came from the unexplored region

[thorny ferry]

What kind of greek language is this

[long mist]

somo como sleeper agents, alguien dice ñ y nos activamos

[lusty oxide]

Ik ben Nederlands aan het praten

[spice sage]

Y'all, go to #general or #off-topic instead

[silent acorn]

Es un poder, ya nos lavaron el cerebro jaja

[long mist]

is that dutch?

[silent acorn]

Sorry mr toad, toad is right we should keep discussing new mons here like the snake shaped sylveon

[long mist]

sorry will do

[lusty oxide]

Anyway can’t wait for the Swoobat reveal this week!

[long mist]

the what now

[crude garden]

Je parle une petit peu de français, mais j'ai oublier la pleupart de ça.

[thorny ferry]

Bruxish*

[crude garden]

Anyway back to American

[lusty oxide]

Having Swoobat in IF is gonna be nice

[silent acorn]

You know the ugly flying rat from Gen 5

[lusty oxide]

[thorny ferry]

The flying fluffball

[long mist]

I know what a swoobat is, I just haven't heard anything about a reveal about it

[gilded eagle]

i'm in american now back to China

[lusty oxide]

The Swoobat reveal is happening this week trust me my uncle works at IF

[thorny ferry]

My great grandfather (nostradamus) told me the tapus are getting in, actually

[lusty oxide]

Your grandfather is senile matpal.

[silent acorn]

Yeah it's because it's a joke sylveon and I think it was matpal make because I am doing a reverse psychology on noivern

[long mist]

cant wait to make them suffer then, I have an unreasonable hate for the tapus, idk why

[thorny ferry]

Don't doubt nostradamus' power

[long mist]

oh ok that makes sense

[terse fable]

But Guzzlord and Drampa

[gilded eagle]

it most likly going to gen 5 pokemon bescouse we have to two in game (Musharna and Petilil) as sprite only not as useable pokemon

[lusty oxide]

The gen 5 mon is Swoobat

Swoobat is getting in

[crude garden]

What if swoobat gets added but only as an overworld Sprite too keep the gag running

[gilded eagle]

i not disagree with you just saying it's going to be more likely Musharna or Petilil going to be in first

i hope not i like bats

[plush pilot]

Can paradox pokemon be bred

Oh wait we talking Swoobat

[lusty oxide]

Can’t wait for Swoobat

[crude garden]

Guys it's sus type

[terse fable]

Whobat?

[lusty oxide]

Anyway I’m gonna play Pokémon sleep

[silent acorn]

I am gonna play pokemon toilet

[plush pilot]

Ah yes Pokemon Water

[glossy osprey]

man I started playong pokemon go to scratch that guzzlord itch

cause I think it's catchable in that game

essentially I want guzzlord

[terse fable]

That's the right opinion

[honest tartan]

why guzzlord when you could luvdisk?

[terse fable]

Luvdisk
More like
LuvdisGuzzlord

[fleet bramble]

I will not accept Luvdisc getting in over Alomomola in any timeline
Guzzlord would be better than both though

[grand hull]

Why luvdisc when diancie

[honest tartan]

we luv disk but we cant di ancie

[glossy osprey]

we can dance, I'm proficient in tango

[drowsy drift]

a second Simple user and access to simple beam would be awesome

[honest tartan]

yes but instead of that thing (cant even mega in this game) we could have linoone with normal type and belly drum and extreme speed

[drowsy drift]

snorlax/arcanine

takes care of that niche. more ES users would be cool though

[stone cliff]

Or, hear me out

[honest tartan]

what if instead of a fake pseudo legendary we have kommo-o

[stone cliff]

Kommo-o isn't fluffy

[drowsy drift]

dragon doesn't automtically mean pseudo legendary

[stone cliff]

Also yeah what do you mean fake pseudo

I'd say Flygon fits that better personally

[honest tartan]

2 stage evo, not even base 600 in stats

a real pseudo has base 600 and 3 stages

[drowsy drift]

does altaria have any moves/abilities that would make it interesting to add?

[stone cliff]

Nobody refers to Altaria as a pseudo though?

[honest tartan]

mega gives it fairy type
good luck getting megas in the game tho

[stone cliff]

The ability to be fluffy af

[drowsy drift]

bewear would be better for that

[stone cliff]

Altaria is way fluffier

[cinder oasis]

There are only 3 2 stage dragon types that have lower than 500 bst

[honest tartan]

we dont need altaria because we already have whimsicott

[drowsy drift]

it's a joke since bewear's ability is Fluffy

[stone cliff]

Honestly stats/moves/etc is not what I'm about, I'm all for design lol

[stone cliff]

Different theme, Altaria is clouds

[honest tartan]

yes but instead of altaria we could have druddigon and drampa

[cinder oasis]

True

[stone cliff]

I don't like either 🙃

[drowsy drift]

drampa haters not welcome here

[cinder oasis]

Well drampa is similar to Altaria with the white fluff but not the same

[stone cliff]

I like Drampa better than Druddigon but neither are my favorite

[honest tartan]

i'd accept altaria if we had megas but we dont have megas so as it's standing luvdisk and castform are better options

[cinder oasis]

The only dragon types I actually dislike is the applin line

[stone cliff]

Now you're just trying to be hurtful lmao

[drowsy drift]

I think flapple is awesome, not so much for appletun

[cinder oasis]

I think Appletun is super cute and is at least meh but Flapple is just dogshit for some reason

[honest tartan]

i have been campaigning for luvdisk since it began
people would riot if luvdisk got in and [pokemon they liked] didnt get in

[drowsy drift]

i think flapple does the best at representing the pun behind its design of the group

[stone cliff]

Honestly one of my top 5 is already in, so I wouldn't care too much if none of the rest do, still hoping for Altaria tho

[cinder oasis]

Oh I dislike Flapple because its so bad

[cinder oasis]

All I need now is Dhelmise

[honest tartan]

thoughts on that pokemon that looks like that one guy going to prison?

[cinder oasis]

Stakataka?

[stone cliff]

I think, in terms of vote mons, the lowest was B on my list

[honest tartan]

gumshoe

[cinder oasis]

The lowest out of any pokemon was a B tier?

[drowsy drift]

i think all the selections so far are fantastic. staff and vote

weren't my personal picks but I'm really happy with them anyway

[honest tartan]

just hoping for some snow since the only snow setter is delibird and nobody is using delibird seriously

[cinder oasis]

I don't like garbodor but its whatever

[cinder oasis]

Abomasnow fr!

[drowsy drift]

delibird/articuno was the only half-decent fusion I could find that would be passable for a snow playthrough. really not happy having to use a legendary just to make it work

[honest tartan]

abombasnow, aurorus

[stone cliff]

But we already have so many ice types

[drowsy drift]

if hail gave the defense boost it does in gen 9 an abomasnow fusion would be tyranitar levels of stupid

[honest tartan]

seventeen

[stone cliff]

I know, was a joke

[honest tartan]

speaking of low numbers we need more fighting types
we only have 19 of those in PIF

[stone cliff]

Too bad about Medicham

[cinder oasis]

Pangoro

[honest tartan]

updated list of the number of used pokemon types in PIF ||after Goodra line reveal||
ice (17) . fighting (19) . dark (24) . fairy (25) . electric (28). dragon, ghost (32).
steel (33). rock (35). bug (36) . fire (38) . ground (44) .
grass, poison, psychic (45).
normal (54). flying (55). water (67).
Dragon ties with ghost now.

[drowsy drift]

ah, kanto

[stone cliff]

7.8/10 too much water

[drowsy drift]

was scrafty in the poll? I don't remember

[cinder oasis]

Pangoro better fr

[drowsy drift]

nah

we have enough iron fist users

[stone cliff]

I believe everything missing up to gen 7 was in the poll, except for Comfey and Clamperl

[honest tartan]

justice for my clamperls and comfeys

[cinder oasis]

Scrafty has nothing special either

[cinder oasis]

Comfey wasn't an option on the votes

[drowsy drift]

as a rhydon enthusiast I welcome more head smash users

[cinder oasis]

Tyrantrum exists now so yeah.

[drowsy drift]

actually scrafty gets high jump kick and head smash. damn.

[honest tartan]

rhydon d...

[rotund loom]

Can we add this-
(I AM AWARE GEN 8 WILL NEVER HAPPEN)\

[honest tartan]

we should add volbeat instead

[rotund loom]

Naww

[honest tartan]

ok its time to lay out the truth that nobody would like to hear

kriketune is the undeniable best pokemon on the polls and if it didnt win it was rigged

[drowsy drift]

big woop

[cinder oasis]

If Basculin doesnt get in its rigged

[outer matrix]

Basculin won't get Basculegion

[cinder oasis]

I know

[drowsy drift]

wait why does AURORUS not learn AURORA Veil in gen 7

[cinder oasis]

Game Freak moment

[drowsy drift]

abomasnow can't learn it in gen 7 either. why do they hate ice so much

[cinder oasis]

And then there's Alolan Ninetales with a higher bst, Better typing ( ice and fairy isn't great though), Gets aurora veil and is quite fast

[stone cliff]

I would unironically love Kricketune if only for deleleleleleWOOOOOOOOOP

[drowsy drift]

https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/auroraveil.shtml what would you even fuse abomasnow with to make something good with these options?

[cinder oasis]

Literally froslass and that it

Ghost and Ice is the only good type combo there and it's quite fast

[drowsy drift]

aurorous definitely gets the better deal here

[kindred knot]

Aurorous has refrigerate, all that I care

[drowsy drift]

ice type boomburst, scary

[kindred knot]

If only we get noivern

[drowsy drift]

can still get it with flygon, sorta

[kindred knot]

Meh

[brisk vessel]

Dragon Ice

[kindred knot]

Fighting rock steel dragon fairy

[alpine rune]

Electric/Ice:

[kindred knot]

Ground ice

[molten wadi]

Guys, which pokemon should I fuse misdreavus with?

have this pokes

[honest tartan]

Fun fact
Trollface was made on September 19th 2008. Pay your respects.

[slate gazelle]

I wonder how Staraptor did

[sharp sphinx]

prob not well enough we have a lotta regional birds already so they have limite value as bodies

[lusty vine]

See previous complaint about “fire flying” type DRAGON Pokémon

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/yveltal-legendary-pokemon-pokemon-diancie-and-the-cocoon-of-destruction-pokemon-movie-pokemon-gif-16665363462890750948

[alpine rune]

That reminds me

How is Explosion a Normal Type move?

[ebon canopy]

hye guys, I'm downloading the full sprite pack form the downlodas tab, and I get how to drag over the customballter file into my game folder, but how do I add the joke/animated sprites form the "other" folder? do I also just add them into the custombattlers folder?

sorry hopefully my spelling isnt too bad

[alpine rune]

You cant anymore. Also wrong channel

[ebon canopy]

oop my bad

[drowsy drift]

what type should it be?

[alpine rune]

Steel or fire maybe

[drowsy drift]

explosions don't always need a fire to happen, some can be purely chemical

[alpine rune]

Yes... fire is a chemical reaction of sorts. Like I don't suppose that a spontaneous combustible chemical reaction is Normal

Unless you're in a warzone where explosions are just a regular Saturday

[hushed mantle]

I don’t want to deal with a 250 bp move that isn’t normal type

[alpine rune]

Pixilate Explosion 🤯

[hushed mantle]

Imagine if sylveon could explode

[drowsy drift]

i wish

[brisk vessel]

Misty Explosion:

[hushed mantle]

It’s 150 max

[brisk vessel]

Doubles in power when under misty terrain

• STAB + The Actual terrain type damage boost

That sounds more like 450 to me chief

[sullen elbow]

It doesn't double in power only goes up to 150 and misty terrein doesn't boost fairy moves

[brisk vessel]

Oom

That's still 225 so close enough to 250

[stone cliff]

If only there was some way to mix Sylveon and some other pokemon's movesets

[alpine rune]

I wasn't going to tell em but ok

[prime dust]

let them dream dreams

[old bluff]

i recomend tryinh yo get a deino from safari zone, for hydreigon fusion

[lyric zephyr]

Flareon holding a Choice Band, sent out after a max speed Electrode uses Explosion, can use Copycat to surprise the enemy with an absurdly powerful attack. Now you know.

[brisk vessel]

That is assuming Flareon moves first

[silk narwhal]

tbh, i hope the strange plant is indeed nihilego simply so i can make a Mother Beast Lusamine fusion

[fair jewel]

Tsareena

[silk narwhal]

or gardevoir

[fair jewel]

I mean strange plant =Tsareena

[sharp nebula]

the strange plant is definitely meloetta

[silk narwhal]

definitely neither

[pale flame]

I hope it's Xurkitree, I really like Xurkitree

[white meadow]

Y meloetta

[sharp nebula]

i mean if you saw meloetta stuck in the ground, you would think 'huh, thats a strange plant'

[white meadow]

Y should Meloetta be stuck in the ground

[pale flame]

No Id kick it

Because Meloetta is the worst mythical for this vote, and idk what the others even are

[sharp nebula]

because plants grow out of the ground keep up

[pale flame]

[sharp nebula]

this is certainly one of the worst takes ive ever heard but you do you

[pale flame]

[violet pawn]

meloetta isn't a plant??

[sharp nebula]

hence why if you saw one it would be strange

[pale flame]

I just think it'll lead to 500 Hatsune Miku alts 💀💀💀

[violet pawn]

good

[pale flame]

I'm the same guy who wants the Regi Trio lol

[violet pawn]

ok

[sullen elbow]

The strange plant is bramblegast trust me my dad is frogman

[brisk vessel]

im gonna be honest i genuinely did think meloetta was psychic/grass when i first saw her

i know better now though

[alpine rune]

i thought she was mono psychic like every other mythicals

the more i think about it the more i realize how wrong my statement is

its been a long day, my brain aint braining

[sharp nebula]

ah yes, my favourite psychic type, darkrai

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/refresh-stressed-button-loading-brain-gif-9887191

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-tom-and-jerry-waiting-tom-waiting-gif-17813304

[silent acorn]

Oh yes manaphy the most boring psychic pokemon.

Gonna be honest the manaphy movie was fun it genuinely made me believe manaphy was a good pokemon...

Empashis on make believe

[sharp nebula]

manaphy is fine, its phione that doesnt deserve to exist

[silent acorn]

Apparently making fusions with manaphy is hard because not everyone tries, like lake trio has more

[sterile spoke]

Neither Manaphy nor the Lake Trio are in IF. 😮

Yet.

[silent acorn]

Yes they are not, OR MAYBE!

[arctic python]

They would be wasted space

[sterile spoke]

I know. 😂

[placid pelican]

Oh no meloetta tipo planta (grass type meloetta) was the funniest thing when I was a child. It's a clip of a poketuber using eruption against a meloetta followed by he losing a nuzlocke

[arctic python]

they would basically be IF's glow squid

[placid pelican]

Remember kids, sometimes green pokemon are just psychic

[arctic python]

and that blue pokemon are always water

[placid pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/reuniclus-pokemon-pokemon-amie-shiny-pokemon-gif-9388138983941063666

[placid pelican]

Latios, metagross, dragonair, salamence, carbink etc etc

[arctic python]

you forgot the trainer that called his team "full water" yet had a nidoqueen in the first pokemon movie

[placid pelican]

Also there is this water pokemon

That is like a turtle

And swims

So it must be water isn't it

[arctic python]

yes

[placid pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-torkoal-ok-bye-ok-bye-gif-10952927295946666301

[arctic python]

just wanna say, rhydon learns surf

[placid pelican]

.-.

Why

[silent acorn]

And whooper learns ice punch

[placid pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/plush-plushie-pokemon-pokemon-plush-pokeplush-gif-22905343

[arctic python]

He IS the fist

[sterile spoke]

So does Gastly.

[arctic python]

I'm just gonna assume that Gastly's just have a block of ice shaped like a fist and just keep it in their pockets

[white meadow]

"actually it's a tortoise" 🤓

[sterile spoke]

And they can die in water after only a few minutes.

[cyan hare]

why is there still no chat for trevenant

[sterile spoke]

Why would there be a chat for Trevenant when no other Pokémon has one? 😂

[placid pelican]

Is there a difference

:o

[cyan hare]

I mean there are chats for oricorio, glalie, goodra, etc. so why not for trevenant

[placid pelican]

Sandy ghast

[sterile spoke]

There aren't? 😅

[placid pelican]

Hshhdhwirkwjf sandyghast

[sullen elbow]

The trevenant Rush chat kinda

[cyan hare]

you sure?

[placid pelican]

I think he is talking about #1110703869564031056 etc etc

[white meadow]

isn't that like a thread or something

[placid pelican]

Ye

[sterile spoke]

Oh, well that's just because nobody wants one made, apparently. 😛

[midnight bane]

Honestly greninja would have sick fusions

[arctic python]

imagine if only greninja got in

and not the other kalos starters

[alpine rune]

I mean-

[placid pelican]

You have this #1149373303669145751

[cyan hare]

I see thanks

[alpine rune]

so

what do you guys think the next vote is? My bets on Necrozma

[midnight bane]

Some Pokémon I want are

Marshadow
Froakie line
Litten line
Ultra beasts
Decidueye

[white meadow]

they are probably leaving the legendaries last

[sharp nebula]

well three of those arent getting in

[midnight bane]

The starters?

[sharp nebula]

ye

[white meadow]

unless they just fill all the last slots with them i don't think necrozma is going to be revealed soon

[clever atlas]

You surely know my hopes already by Now, but i'll remind you, just in case

[midnight bane]

Do you know why?

[white meadow]

me when pinned messages

[sharp nebula]

check pins

[midnight bane]

Ight

[alpine rune]

with 7 slots left, it'll be next week or tomorrow

[midnight bane]

I think that was kinda weird why not just add them in if everyone wants it lol

Nvm

[sharp nebula]

well a. not everyone wants them.
2. most of the people that voted for them only want 1 or 2 of the 9
c. every pokemon added is another 400+ sprites the people have to make

[midnight bane]

Oh wait ye that’s true my bad

[prime dust]

8

i guess the news didn't spread as much; but here's the context you need for that #pif-hoenn-discussion message

tldr: Sableye counts as an extra, not a poll voted mon, even the comment Blaquaza pinned was changed to relfect this new info

[warm verge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lotad-trust-him-evil-demon-gif-3744807403628237892

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cacturne-pokemon-agree-true-gif-25125595

[silent acorn]

The best thing 3 stage evolutions have is body fusions because depending on which they have huge variety of variety

[plush pilot]

I already trust him

[silent acorn]

Oh wow! Sableye doesn't count towards the slot limit?

Then that means officially it is the 30th slot and we still have 8 slots instead of 7 that's great news!

[prime dust]

ye

[naive cobalt]

I would not trust him

[warm verge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lotad-do-not-trust-him-evil-demon-gif-10806665268202354649

[outer matrix]

Considering how sableye is now confirmed to be an extra Pokémon now, then 8 slots are left for new Pokémon ( || if we don't count any of the leaked Pokémon from the playtest || )

[terse fable]

At this point I'm half expecting them to make "those" mons extra, since basically everyone knows about them already

[silent acorn]

This is positive at least as we have less mon counting on the community limit

In a way yeah, it's hard to make a huge reveal when they basically have been floating news for a while

[sharp nebula]

how many slots are left counting the leaks?

[terse fable]

Yea, like they'll still be cool Fusions but the hypes died down, partly why I'm going down the extra mon theory

[terse fable]

8, counting leaks it'd be like 4 or 3 or something

[silent acorn]

I mean they don't lose much making pallosand and necrozmas extras I am pretty sure everyone likes the idea of those two... Ok maybe not necrozma but no one can deny pallosand would be a pretty sweet gift

[outer matrix]

As a person who voted for both, I really don't mind if they were extras

[sharp nebula]

i mean stakataka kinda does the same thing as palossand with one slot but either is good

[rough hound]

if we get pallosand, id be able to add my fakemon as a fusion alt

[silent acorn]

Sounds sweep

[prime dust]

we kind of aren't, datamined stuff isn't always accurate

[silent acorn]

I mean pallosand hits both the texture and structure niche better than stakataka to be honest. And those are the only two that can actually do that

[terse fable]

I'm counting them as extra mons we'll get in my headcanon until I'm proven otherwise lol

[prime dust]

just limbo them as unconfirmed

cause otherwise we have to also include the sprite errors as possible additions

[terse fable]

That's the safest way, but a man can dream

[rough hound]

im just hoping for at least one of my alliance to win the votes

[outer matrix]

Being able to use Pallosand to make many different sand structures, sculpture, castles, and other things would be cool

Stakakaka is more or less similar, but made of sentient bricks

[rough hound]

i like stakataka's grafitti vibes, but i didnt vote 3 on any UBs

[prime dust]

the only fusion i can think of for stakakaka is porygon into a tetris reference

[terse fable]

Yea I've really warmed up to Pallosand, would love to see them officially in

[outer matrix]

A minecraft house fusion for either Stakakaka or pallosand

[rough hound]

[silent acorn]

Toxicroak and pangoro I am hoping for. Those are the best fighting options alongside mienshao, like come on pangoro is literally a reference in of itself

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-gif-23645255

[terse fable]

At this point any fighting type mon I'll happily accept, just need more lol

[sharp nebula]

pirouette form is fighting type🤷‍♀️
just something to think about

[rough hound]

i want my toxi sprite to be usable, i wanna see people make things with him

[white meadow]

blaziken is better tho

[terse fable]

That's so good

[outer matrix]

More fighting types are what we need || (except medicham; it literally has a duplicate ability of huge power) ||

[rough hound]

fun fact, the spriters actually love toxicroak. theres a TON of toxicroak sprite bases

[terse fable]

Well yea, toxicroak is fusion gold, people will be all over that if he's put in lol

[outer matrix]

Toxicroak was one of those Pokémon I was not a fan of before, but seeing how much fusion potential it has (and other things), it may be up there in my favorite Pokémon list

[rough hound]

My toxi fusions i made for propoganda

i probably shoulda made a toxi head fusion, but i like the body and im not the most experienced

[silent acorn]

Well it's main difference is that in fact Medicham guarantees huge power unlike Azumarill.... You don't get huge power on all fusions with it.

[sharp nebula]

we need another pokemon ranger game

[silent acorn]

Kinda... Not really

[terse fable]

*Mystery Dungeon

[silent acorn]

Well I mean... If you made it 3d open world and I don't know what other nonsense maybe

I feel like open world mystery dungeon would be a blast

[sharp nebula]

that too but ranger is more important to me

[terse fable]

I don't think I ever played a Ranger game

[sharp nebula]

theyre all perfect except the first one

[outer matrix]

Ranger would feel awkward to play docked on a switch (remember games like Mario Maker 2 where they had a cursor pointer)

[sharp nebula]

theyll come up with something

[white meadow]

Got a new idea for a little nightmares sprite if a Mon gets in
Ramoraid/Makuhita being the Hunter

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/little-nightmares-little-nightmares2-ln-ln2-bandai-namco-gif-27609298

[oblique sigil]

two of the pokemon i wanted the most are now in the game

sableye and goomy.
now we just need to hope for marshadow, Meloetta, kartana, and Xurkitree

although Xurkitree unfortunately doesn't seem to be too popular xd

[sharp nebula]

i dont really see any ubs getting in tbh

[sterile spoke]

And if they do, it's likely Nihilego. 😮

[violet pawn]

no way

[outer matrix]

I wonder what fusions nihilego would bring to the table?

[sharp nebula]

well if lusamine is anything to go by, theyll be pretty great

[oblique sigil]

kartana also seems to be a likely one

[exotic jewel]

Gardevoir/Nihilego should just be Lusamine when she fuses with Nihilego.

[oblique sigil]

not much propaganda was made for it, but when asking people of they liked them, a lot of them said yes

[sharp nebula]

nihilego and pheromosa are my favourites but id be happy with any of them except buzzwole

[exotic jewel]

What do you have against Buzzwole?

[sharp nebula]

its one of the ugliest pokemon imo

[oblique sigil]

probably jealous of their pecs /j

[sterile spoke]

No, I mean like Nihilego has literally been semi-datamined. 😅

[exotic jewel]

I like the steroid mosquito

[oblique sigil]

datamines don't mean anything

[sterile spoke]

I'd hate if Kartana got in, because it's possibly one of the worst fusion candidates. Most of the Ultra Beasts are. 😢

[oblique sigil]

how dare you

[outer matrix]

Origami fusions with kartana

[exotic jewel]

Big disagree

[oblique sigil]

kartana would be amazing

[sterile spoke]

You don't have to make sprites for it. 😂

[oblique sigil]

wdym

[sterile spoke]

Lots of detail in a small space is like the worst thing for fusions, because then you have to cram all of that in. 😅

[oblique sigil]

it'll be fine. if I could manage it, I'm sure any spriter can

[sterile spoke]

They might be able to manage it, but the question is if they'd want to. 😛

[oblique sigil]

I'm not a professional spriter, only moderate xd

[oblique sigil]

I would.

[naive cobalt]

terrible take ngl

[sterile spoke]

In my Spriter-only guerrilla poll, Kartana was one of the more popular Ultra Beasts, but they were all quite slightly to moderately unpopular choices. 😅

[naive cobalt]

almost as bad as the necrozma take

[sterile spoke]

You also don't have to make sprites with it. 😛

[exotic jewel]

Technically speaking, not even the spriters have to make sprites with Kartana.

[sterile spoke]

This wouldn't be hugely fun. 😅

[sterile spoke]

That's dabbling in semantics. People who don't sprite typically still want them to not be autogenerated for obvious reasons. 😂

[chrome maple]

I hope Naganadel line will be in the game. It isn't too complex and they are basically ulta beast starters

[exotic jewel]

Wait, you're a mod, Bla, wouldn't you know if Kartana got added or not?

Or even be able to bar it from getting in?

[primal arch]

https://tenor.com/view/yveltal-plushie-plush-spin-plush-yveltal-gif-25865330

Bacon bird my beloved

[oblique sigil]

that doesn't mean anything anyways. just because isn't a spriter doesn't mean they don't want to be one. for all you know, they could be waiting for their application to be accepted

[oblique sigil]

also you can't just consider the opinion of non-spriters for one thing but not another. especially when neither opinion has to do with skill level

[cinder oasis]

Damn 😭

[dull root]

I also happen to agree that Kartana fusions would be hell on earth for me

The only Ultra Beasts I would like for fusions is Celesteela (for more metal/rocket fusions) and Nihilego (Because idk, i like it lol)

[cinder oasis]

Celesteela would be awful but nihilego wouldnt be that hard because it's just a glass Jellyfish

[dull root]

Why is Celesteela awful

[cinder oasis]

It's body shape is extremely weird

[dull root]

Oh for body fusions, yeah I can see that

All of the Ultra Beasts are real bad for body fusions though imo

[cinder oasis]

But stakataka would be the only UB I would be crying if it got in

[mystic crystal]

Crying with joy no doubt

[cinder oasis]

Buzzwole would be fine but it would basically be a machamp clone

[cinder oasis]

With despair and sadness

[oblique sigil]

i mean to be fair everyone has a pokemon they suck at making fusions for.

[dull root]

This is true yeah

[sharp nebula]

yeah for me its all of them

[oblique sigil]

for example, for me I suck at making fusions for giratina

[cinder oasis]

I love Kartana but for body fusions it would be very hard

[outer matrix]

For me it's just legendaries as the body fusions

[oblique sigil]

also kartana/mimikyu could be mimikyu covered in a paper bag, which would be kinda cute and funny tbh

like using a paper bag as a disguise

[outer matrix]

A sharp and pointy paper bag or lunch bag

[oblique sigil]

as long as it has kartana colors, and it's made of paper, it works

[dull root]

Kartana bodies would just have to rely really heavily on the origami aspect which could be good, but I feel like that's really hard to sprite

[oblique sigil]

doesn't necessarily need to be origami. for example stunfisk could just be a piece of paper with a face drawn on it xd

[oblique sigil]

true, but kartana heads would have more freedom tbh, and even kartana bodies would look cool

[sullen elbow]

wait, what would kartana bodies look like?

[dull root]

Depends on how you define bodies, because Kartana with a different mon's head is just kinda... nor Kartana

So you'd have to get inventive

[oblique sigil]

stunfisk's face obviously

or even just a drawing of stunfisk would probably work better

[sullen elbow]

so would kartana body be the origami version of the head mon?

[dull root]

That's how I would take it at least

Although they'd probably both end up being that Head and Body

[hushed mantle]

Lairon, never spriting with that b1tch ever again

[dull root]

Delibird, never spriting with that b1tch ever again

[sullen elbow]

bellossom, never spriting that skirt again

[white meadow]

Yeah basically
Credits to Pix

[rigid dome]

the goliosopod fusion looks sick

[white meadow]

Golisopod looks sick with everything

[rigid dome]

he do be a cool looking pokemon

[autumn radish]

kartana/lurantis

Like, that Kartana and Lurantis is so goddamn awesome.

[dull root]

Those are Kartana head fusions but yeah you get the point

[white meadow]

Oh yeah mb

[silent acorn]

That Kartana looks like one of those goofy monster that can just kill quickly

[silent acorn]

That Samurott fusion is so clean, like thats what oshawott was meant to be

ok this is pretty cool

But like this is what it basically boils down with noivern wing change, scale change and mane

Tigrexmon aka Tyranvern

Ok now thats a cool excuse

[white meadow]

Wish there was some sort of ai which could make any pokemon fusions while also making it look sick

[silent acorn]

Hey where it's the goodra/tyrantrum at? I thought the goodra fans weren't lazy

[potent plume]

be careful the might drag you to the primordial soup

[hushed mantle]

Spriters if that existed:

[prime dust]

noivern would make for a good nergigante reference...as well as nargacuga

[clever atlas]

Mmmm, Pixilate/Refrigerate Boomburst, yummy!

But sadly not STAB with Refrigerate

Unless the frog dude swaps aurorus' types

[plush bough]

I wonder what a fusion with Salazzle would look like 🤔 could also be cool

[white meadow]

Noivern and salazzle?

[prime dust]

unlikely, he only swapped phatump/trevanant because it made sense

[white meadow]

I talked with a Friend of mine that is Sprite Manager and he said they had some sort of talks and he can always send a suggsestion in when its logical

[plush bough]

Yes

[white meadow]

I mean I can try getting a idea and make one

[clever atlas]

I mean in not saying it'd be better one way or the other, just that it's an option

[oblique sigil]

everything you have ever said is now invalidated

[hushed mantle]

I mean it wouldn’t make sense that the fusion whose head is blue and has ice isn’t an ice type

[terse fable]

I still think the type swapping for Trevenant wasn't a good move
cause now everyone will want type swappings for what they feel makes more sense/is more viable you can argue for days around that lol

[silent acorn]

Could give a blueprint but wouldn't be usable. Spriting is harder than 101 code

[white meadow]

Imagine changeing the type for what makes more sense so dumb

[silent acorn]

What was the change Azr?

[hushed mantle]

That has happened before maaany times

[terse fable]

But that's subjective, people can argue the normal way it was typed made more sense, at that point people can make arguments for any pokemon with a duel typing and make up reasons why they feel it's better

[terse fable]

They just swapped the typing for Trevenant, not a big deal I don't really care lol, just feels it leaves room for everyone to argue every time a new duel typing is added to the game

[white meadow]

there are previous mons with switched types or even for fuions types they cant have

[terse fable]

Yea, also mons with added typings as well, I understand that. That doesn't mean I have to necessarily agree with it, cause every mon that comes in with a duel type or even a single type you can argue to have swapped or have a type added

[silent acorn]

But like whats the typying now?

[white meadow]

PIF never added a new type tho

[silent acorn]

Is it like still plant/ghost or did it change?

[prime dust]

they just reversed the typing

[hushed mantle]

Grass/ghost, it used to be ghost/grass

[terse fable]

Oh I thought they did for a mon? I could be wrong on that end then lol but the duel typing argument still remains lol

[silent acorn]

Ghost /grass? What was the point of changing that?

[white meadow]

And it makes sense to give a Ghost/Grass type the Grass type for the fusions that use the Plant parts

Or for example a Electric/Steel type the half that uses the Steel parts

[prime dust]

no that's TMT that added new types

[hushed mantle]

Head fusions would be ghost type and that wouldnt make sense for a tree

[silent acorn]

Ok thats some nonsense that doesnt make much sense

[silent acorn]

Isn't trevenant a tree in essence?

I get the whole soul trapped in plant blah blah, but that's not gengar, gengar isn't a bunch of gas it is an spirit full

[prime dust]

yes

[terse fable]

Like I said, the argument can go on forever, hence why I feel it wasn't the best move imo lol

[prime dust]

oh well

[terse fable]

But to be clear, I don't mind trevenant's duel typings being switched, doesn't really matter to me

[white meadow]

but we fuse the mons
Trevenants head makes the bodys of Pokemon Wood
While the body is the shape and for example becomes Steel or Flesh when you fuse it with something else

[silent acorn]

Hm... Thats true. Yeah the head brings the grass part to the fusion and the body the ghost part

This is quite a goofy leap in logic

[white meadow]

And thats why some pokemon gets theyr type swapped
Like Magneton line being Steel/Electric in PIF and not Electric/Steel

[terse fable]

Yea I think it's silly but if people like it eh

[white meadow]

Okay lets say you see a Pokemon fusion fully made of Steel what type do you expect it to have?

[terse fable]

Whatever the typings of the two mons fused are? There's plenty of mons who look one type but are another

[white meadow]

So a Fish made out of Wood should be Ghost/water for a example

[prime dust]

maybe as a joke alt sure

[white meadow]

and a long Spider legged "log" made out of Fish Water/Grass?

[prime dust]

in that instance i'd be worried about the spriter making a spider out of fish

[white meadow]

Or a armord Cat made out of Steel being Electric and a UFO made out of Cat Steel?

[prime dust]

like props on them for doing it but like "Are you okay?" or "Who hurt you?"

[prime dust]

the cat is actually has Alien typing...they were worshipped by ancient egyptians as messengers of the gods

[white meadow]

Oh thats just a example why some types get changed
Yeah Frogman gives himselfe a extra step but its only to keep more logic behind the fusions and makeing the recognizion of types easyer

[terse fable]

To all your examples, if that's the way the original typings were, yea I'd be okay with that sure not everyone would be, but that's why you should know your poke types

[white meadow]

So people who have a problem remembering the types should many time just be fucked

[terse fable]

I don't mind messing with typings though, I just don't want that to be the new thing every time a dual type mon is introduced

[terse fable]

I mean you are right, and I understand the decision, just think it opens a can of worms I'd rather not have opened

[white meadow]

Its only a thing when its very likely to be a big part in many sprites

Tyrantrum wont be switched cuz both sides dont have a specific way to say THAT is dragon for example

While Aurorus is likely to get a Switch cuz the Ice crystals probably get put on many head fusions wich idicates the Ice part heavy

[hushed mantle]

I don’t think it’s even too impactful, like no one in this server has minded about it

[terse fable]

From a spriter perspective I can see your point, and that's fine with me, just don't want that to be the norm

[hushed mantle]

I just realized gyarados was made pure water

[white meadow]

dont worry it wont be
Most voteable mons wont be changed just of that reason

[terse fable]

Alright well then cool, switch it up then lol

[terse fable]

When we getting Guzzlord tho, like it's been funny an everything heeheehawhaw, but you can add him in now we're ready

[prime dust]

sometime between the inevitable heat death of the universe, and never

[plush pilot]

Good afternoon

[dawn pier]

look at what we missed out, what a great potential (sprite by me)

[terse fable]

That is sooooo good

[white meadow]

where?

[dawn pier]

accelgor

[silent acorn]

To be honest... Accelgor is way more limited than Excavalier

Like it can work for ninjafiying or mummyfying fusions but like... Accelgor got the bad deal of the trade evolution in its body

[oblique sigil]

what pokemon would look the coolest fused with kartana

[silent acorn]

Flygon

[oblique sigil]

🤔

[dawn pier]

True

[oblique sigil]

how would that look tbh

[dawn pier]

I'm down bad for edgy stuff like this tho

[silent acorn]

Well garchomp could also be sick considering the sharp fins

[oblique sigil]

what would kartana fused with Aegislash look like?

in that order

[silent acorn]

It would look like a literal katana

[oblique sigil]

omg wait

that would look cool-

[obsidian wedge]

Guys

We should do a Sprite for Double
Ursaring that looks like Ursaluna!

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/guzzlord-nanu-pokemon-alola-gif-25117620

Is Gourgeist confirmed?

[midnight bane]

Imagine double ursaluna tho

I can imagine it just being a mega ursaluna which I am sure would be amazing

[obsidian wedge]

Why not

[sand mica]

Guzzlord needs to be in the game.

[white meadow]

Yeah okay i take the L but golisopod still on top 🗣️🗣️

[hushed mantle]

Or bloodmoon ursaluna

[novel moat]

Guys, what's the official site?

Wanna get the new update but didnt find it anywhere

[lusty oxide]

It’s in #downloads also wrong channel

[novel moat]

My bad! Thanks!

[silent acorn]

Golisopod is awesome for battle armors and just general brutal creature vibes

From Gen 7 I can picture vikabolt giving literal mecha vibes to everything you fuse it with

Like how scizor does that sometimes.

We already got pyukkumuku... Toxapex would be like extremely good for sea shield it has

this is one of those pokemon whose personality is more reflected on its body

[stable vapor]

I need it

[silent acorn]

We need a lot of pokemon we aren't getting

[stable vapor]

I need that particular fusion

[glossy osprey]

guzzlord haircut

[midnight wharf]

Ducklett just because I want to fuze it with Psyduck just to make it the ultimate duck

[hushed mantle]

Duckduck

[glossy goblet]

so when's gonna be the new reveal?

[alpine rune]

3 days ish?

usually on saturdays, sundays if you live in asia

[prime dust]

if kiwi remembers

[silent acorn]

Usually weekend for the most part or as soon as one of the devs goes into a risky adventure

Usually the latter

[oblique sigil]

dang can't believe I have to think golisopod sucks now /j

[glossy goblet]

i see..

[silent acorn]

Golisopod is awesome because it's effectively a tank but without the downsides of usual tank pokemon IE quad weaknesses or horrible movesets

First impression is a decent move that works great for any slow pokemon that can take advantage of bug type. Emergency exit does kinda suck as a forced exit kind of thing... BUT! This IF we are talking about you could just give Golisopod some other ability

Honestly since this channel gets activity every now and then I am gonna list some points for some lesser popular pokemon just because like... Hey may as well point it out now for the future.

[glossy osprey]

gotta prep for vote 2

[silent acorn]

Yep exactly gotta get fair and valid points for each pokemon in case of a future vote

[sand mica]

What points do you list for Grumpig and Skuntank?

[silent acorn]

Ok gonna start with one of the bottom ones at the list.

Mightyena, now mightyena gets a lot of slack for being boring, and rather weak compared to a lot of options in its Gen, but this is not Myghtyenas fault but rather gamefreak utilizing it as a very early route pokemon so it's stuck with the middling stats regarding that role.

However mightyena has decent atk but middling distribution on all other Stas meaning that more or less it works as a sort all rounder fusion material.

As Myghtyena is a dark type it's weakness are fighting, fairy and bug. The fun thing with its that its one of the mono dark pokemon meaning that whatever you fuse it with much like any mono type gets only that type, so you could use it as a less cheesy Darkrai.

Mightyena abilities are intimidate, quickfeet and it gets moxie so it gets enough building room to allow everyone to mess with what it has, if you have a pokemom with immunity to the status quickfeet can be handy, the best one being fire type combos since they wouldn't suffer atk debuff. And quickfeet ignores paralyze debuff anyway so it's a handy tool, intimidate as always useful. Moxie good.

Its moves arent bad either as it can benefit from a bunch of stuff, all elemental fangs, play rough and good dark moves so it's a decent fusion material.
In both Poochyena and Mightyena both body and head are good fusion material for either dark edgy designs or canine type designs. Overall it gets a B- as a fusion pokemon.

[silent acorn]

While others hate skuntank I don't so I will list it eventually, but grumpig I have zero experience and zero appreciation for the thing so imma leave be that someones homework. If they want to touch it instead of me.

[stone cliff]

Grumpig: You get spoink

[silent acorn]

By the way since i am way too lazy to talk about every single stage and every single one I am mostly talking about the general scope of what the pokemon has to offer mightyena and poochyena are about the same so they get summarize. As such. Stuff like ludicolo is different across the three stages so it gets more detailing.

[silent acorn]

Essentially what I think grumpig can get summarized as. By the way if you don't touch altaria I will and you don't want my grabby hands on the fluffy bird

I am recording these and making a record of them. So if anybody wants to contribute their opinion go ahead

[stone cliff]

My only point for Altaria is "I love him" so

[silent acorn]

Loveable birb counts as a nice point so eh

We are fast approaching the end of reveals since there is only 8 slots left so might as well make an honorary tribute to the fallen

[lusty oxide]

I love him is also my only point for pidove

Wasn’t expecting other people to vote it anyway

[silent acorn]

Ok so I got the little gloomy gates of purgatory ready

Here lies all that could not be added

Now I am adding mightyena 1st because it was the first of the gen 3 pokemon to not make the cut so it gets the first spot for numerical order

[lusty oxide]

Btw did you add that mightyena also gets intimidate which is a good ability

[silent acorn]

Now the risk of people not talking nice about their pokemon is me having to do the butchers job and chop them up.

And yes sylveon I did
Mightyena for being early game is good with that ability

And just to remind everyone reading this I am making this taking the apex of the pokemon into account for gameplay and the stages for designs.

[lusty oxide]

Ok good

[silent acorn]

Also because making way too long a document in docs gets unwieldy sometimes

[gilded eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/why-whyyy-neden-ağlamak-üzgün-gif-19603232

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/life-isnt-fair-kiddo-herbert-garrison-south-park-s1e4-big-gay-ai-gif-21523183

Now I am not saying mightyena sucks but I don't think it's chances are better than linoone are they?

How likely that linoone gets in?

Ok so from the silence i am guessinf not so much. Ok Lioone time to bury you.

[cinder oasis]

I would give it like a C+, it's just alright

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm... Yeah it's a bit high that's for sure

[cinder oasis]

Intimidate is an amazing ability but so many pokemon have it already

[atomic aurora]

is gen 9 and 8 in the game yet? i wanna use scorbunny

[stone cliff]

Only mons up to gen 7

[atomic aurora]

😦

[silent acorn]

Ok got entry two now. Here it is.
Entry 2.
Linoone
Linoone is an early route normal pokemon with some interesting thought put in it, as it's more focused on attack and speed while having good hp, with meh defensive and special stats. Due to its high speed it can benefit quicker offensive combos. It's a mono normal type meaning it guarantees normal on anything, it does give more options for normal fusions although there is great abundance of those.

Linoone has the ability gluttony which is beneficial for ideas like belch and other berry related moves or strats. Pickup is just generally very useful utility for hoarding items and it has quick feet as a HA, meaning more speed when affected by ailments. So for the most part it's lower tier when it comes to ability benefit.

In terms of moves it has access to Hone claws, Fury Swipes, Belly Drum, Covet and double edge. So overall it's very versatile when it comes to work together with other pokemon movesets.

Zigzagoon and Linoone act as decent head fusion and good body fusion material as their design is very streamlined and allows a lot of ideas to flow due to being in the family of tanukis which for the most part is unique to Gen 3. They work great as animal, agile and wild type type of designs with a more grounded to earth feel. Overall they get a C+ as fusion pokemon.

And there you have it the memorial for Linoone with a little summary of what it has. I am doing this with the mindset of letting each line shows its best with analysis rather than leaving it to "Keh everyone uses it lol".

BTW I should mention that if anybody wants to add their own opinion on a pokemon with a lengthy explanation or summary of why it would be great I would like to add it to the Ruins of the Fallen so that in the event of another vote we have a nice summary of what we learned from this mon vote

[kindred knot]

The only non-legendary STAB extreme speed

the other normal type that learns extreme speed is arceus

[stone cliff]

I've kinda wanted to do the whole Normal Arcanine thing

Slaking body maybe

[cinder oasis]

Claydol is a good one to add

And Clawitzer

[kindred knot]

Not claydol, clawitzer gud tho

[glossy osprey]

Lemme contribute as well by dropping my Guzzlord points:

First off, It is one of the most alien looking pokemon and it's color palette as well as his design details really sells that idea. Essentially, you can alienate (or guzzlordify as I like to call it) your pokemon using Guzzlord as a head and incorporating some of Guzzlord's details into your fusion. Do not let the complexity of his design fool you though, as Guzzlord is actually not that hard to work with, for example you could select some of his details and omit others based on the harmony of your fusion design, allowing for a lot of creative fusion ideas. In addition Guzzlord has a unique body allowing for some astonishing body fusions. Since Guzzlord is basically an abstract otherwordly creature his body could be interpreted as a shark, crab, dinosaur, etc. encouraging creativity and it being massive certainly helps in making any body fusion look like an absolute beast or when someone is going for a goofier or cute type of design with let's say some small pokemon as a head, Guzzlords size, as well as it's innate goofiness from the anime can result in a great variety that is not necessarily always edgy. I'd say that Guzzlord is the fine line between too much edge and too much softness in it's design. Of course it has a big mouth, which some may consider a strength while others can consider it an obstacle in spriting. In my opinion, if a guzzlord body fusion doesn't work with a mouth it can just be omitted and replaced with something from the head mon in the fusion. Lastly, Guzzlord has a bioluminescent mouth. Personally, I've found fusions to be bioluminescent to be amazing designwise and I think someone could cook with that aspect, like how Kyogre's bioluminescence from it's primal form is incorporated into some of it's head fusions. I've made some nice sprites with Guzzlord, but I've only touched the tip of the iceberg, I'm certain people can cook with him if they want to. Also it only takes up 1 slot.

Basically:

• Color palatte

• Big amount of details, yet simple design

• Big body size

• Flexibility in fusion tone

• Bioluminescence

• Only takes up 1 slot

[thorny ferry]

won't do one for bruxish because it's getting in 🔥

[kindred knot]

[prime dust]

counter point...we already have Victrebell for vore fusions

and that's not me saying that, that was alpharad saying that

[terse fable]

Counter counter point, Victreebell don't go

A A A A A A A

[prime dust]

specifically when fused with gardevoir but...

[glossy osprey]

victribell don't go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP3DqYDVU_A

[frozen rover]

Please consider

[prime dust]

no

[terse fable]

Does this thing evolve? I barely remember this mon lol

[prime dust]

i will consider cacnea/cacturne tho

[cinder oasis]

Both

[prime dust]

it does not

[frozen rover]

It's a 1 stage evolution, so it will leave spots for other mons

[graceful terrace]

I don't want Palmon, thx

[terse fable]

If I had to pick between them or cacturne line it's cacturne all the way, the better cactusmon

[fallen loom]

plus part dark

I really want a new Fighting Type added due to lack of diversity

[terse fable]

So, how come no one ever brings up Hawlucha? We just don't like that guy?

[lethal roost]

i think he's really good but he's a bit too bird.

would like mienshao though

[terse fable]

Think it'd make for some fun wrestling themes, put masks on pokemon and what not, just surprised it's not brought up more

[lethal roost]

except there's one itsy bitsy teeny problem with mienshao

[terse fable]

I'll still take it though lol

[hardy timber]

You could use the mist stone on it

[lethal roost]

ig

[hardy timber]

Although, I think you only get one mist stone per non-randomized playthrough, and there're other pokemon that you could use it on instead.

[meager trail]

I would love to see Hawlucha added his one of my favorite pokemon

[prisma willow]

It evolves at 50?!

[dusty arrow]

i guess so

[prisma willow]

What the hell Gen 5

[lethal roost]

we love Black and White evolution levels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dusty arrow]

live hydreigon reaction

[lethal roost]

unova has a higher level curve and i think the evo levels are supposesd to reflect that
but literally every other region results in you not being able to use the mons

hell if you use level caps you can't use Hydreigon in BW

[prisma willow]

Can idk... Infitite Fusion dial those evolution levels down to something approaching sanity?

[dusty arrow]

ngl i think zweilous is a lil goof

[brisk vessel]

The Volcarona in question

[dusty arrow]

when does darumaka evolve again
or is it fire stone

[dusty arrow]

bisharp reaction

[glossy osprey]

And then in gen 15 you have the walk 5000 steps in a mountain, do five full circles at the nearest fire stone on the map, buy 10 ice creams and interact with a tree to evolve the mon

[dusty arrow]

and its gotta be a specific tree in a forest with the exact same looking trees

[brisk vessel]

That's gen 12 bruv

Gen 15 would be finding the location of a hidden ruins to solve algebra in order to get the evolution item that you can only use at exactly 4:20pm

[prisma willow]

But seriously, is modifiying the evolution levels of certain pokemon something the developers can do?

[lethal roost]

you gotta use the new move Misery 1000000 times in Shitting Style (it takes all your PP every time) to evolve your new mon

[brisk vessel]

Oh the misery

[lethal roost]

im sure its possible yeah

[lethal roost]

oh and it has 80 ACC and if you miss you don't get credit fuck you

[brisk vessel]

https://piskel-imgstore-b.appspot.com/img/9018712b-485d-11ec-93b7-3133dc937e80.gif

[lethal roost]

yes im still salty about Psyshield Bash not being 100 ACC when the requirement is to hit with them

im very much going insane

[glossy osprey]

what's the most ridiculous evo method in the newest gen?

[dusty arrow]

bisharp or any of the walking ones

[mystic rivet]

999 coins for Gholdengo is a bit much, but easy enough to get at least one through normal gameplay if you just keep an eye/ear out and know to focus towers and ruins for chests.

the first dlc also brought basculegion in naturally which needs 294 recoil damage on white stripe basculin without fainting then level up, which is a bit eh. still not as bad as last gen with galarian yamask.

[restive folio]

Any more info on pokemons being added after goodra?

[hazy pine]

Besides the speculation of a few datamined mons, nothing yet. The revels are usually on the weekends, so we probably won't get one until friday or saturday.

[glossy osprey]

guzzlord was leaked by my super secret agent

[restive folio]

Hmmm

[drowsy elm]

Guys my dad works at frogman inc, he told me that the regis and meloetta and all other pokemon were gonna be added >:D

[prime dust]

we know that is a lie

[stone cliff]

Nuh uh, my uncle works at Bethesda and said the same thing

[hushed mantle]

Still better than trade evos

[mystic rivet]

eh, trade evos are annoying, but not that bad now that a lot can just be found in the wild or dens

[drowsy drift]

trading is a dead mechanic and the sooner they move away from it the better

what they could do is encourage evos that revolve around cooperative play instead since that was introduced in s/v (and sorta in sword/shield)

[lavish saddle]

Still glad garbodor got in

[cinder oasis]

The most annoying Evolution of the newest gen is Gholdengo, but the most annoying Evolution ever in pokemon is Melmetal

[slate gazelle]

what’s a Pokémon that you wish would get in but probably won’t?

I hope for Zebstrika but sadly it doesn’t have a lot of fans

[white meadow]

Gogoat or Elektross

[sharp sphinx]

at this point excadrill seems unlikely, and tbh ggetting quite worried for most of my picks theres very few slots left if ya account for leaks

[cinder oasis]

Mainly because it's native to only one generation it isn't very popular in the slightest

[sharp sphinx]

doesnt help it's an electric phys attacker without a sig move which are notably screwed over

[high haven]

Just checked the announcements
Congratulations to Goomy, Sligoo & Goodra for making it into Infinite fusion! Here's too our slimey friends & to the remaining 7 slots... uh oh.

[cinder oasis]

And it's awful defenses

[sharp sphinx]

its is the possessive

[cinder oasis]

Possibly 4 slots

[sharp sphinx]

8 aparently, sableye got moved in the pin

[cinder oasis]

All I hope for now is Dhelmise ngl

And drampa

[high haven]

Yay 30

[sharp sphinx]

mainnl;y worried bout yveltal now

spheal could happen with the 1 extra space but feels decreasingly likely disregarding drawing

[high haven]

I am figuratively shitting bricks about the chances of Seviper joining

[cinder oasis]

Sharpedo goes in already in,

[sharp sphinx]

ik old image

[lethal roost]

minior, gogoat

[cinder oasis]

Lycanroc would be nice ngl, hopefully it does get in

Accelerock would be very nice

[sharp sphinx]

walrein and sealeo have utility too

[cinder oasis]

I definitely like them but I'd prefer others

[slate gazelle]

a fellow Spheal fan, I see

I’m worried for my boi

hope he gets in
I used to fight for more Pokémon
but as long as Spheal gets in, I’m happy

[high haven]

Okay update list of mons

[prime dust]

the not list may get added in later

[hushed mantle]

Hoopa does NOT deserve to be that low

[prime dust]

it does because it is just worse genie

[lethal roost]

??? you mean worse than the Forces of Nature?

[prime dust]

yes

[hushed mantle]

Nah give me what ur smokin

[lethal roost]

ok I don't hate the FoN and even that's... a take

[prime dust]

i don't smoke

[high haven]

Hey I do think they add stuff to the game, I really do. I just personally don't like the mon myself. Hence the name of the tier: Not for me

[grave jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1153168532037718126/s5SbLqFwwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg.png?width=395&height=701

[lethal roost]

damn. diancie and magearna

[hushed mantle]

Also why audino

[grave jolt]

I saw some good fusions for Audino, and I like high HP pokemon

[hushed mantle]

It’s just lame chansey

[high haven]

Why not Audino?

[prime dust]

i love how almost every list has the creepy mushroom down low and i just go "what's wrong with having nightmare fuel fusions...that's what most the miltank/mr mime ones are."

[high haven]

1: we already have a mushroom motif mon (and a really good one at that)
2: the Sus Amogus joke will put me in a coma within 3 day

[prime dust]

wrong mushroom

[hushed mantle]

Shiinotic?

[lethal roost]

parasect literally exists and is that exact variety of nightmare fuel

also i cant really see morelull as a body

[prime dust]

yes

[grave jolt]

god lmao
Never expected a pokemon to be worse parasect

[lethal roost]

fym parasect is great

[grave jolt]

Personally, I don't like the line. Used it once, but it was meh.

[high haven]

There are 2 sides to me
1: I'm 100% confident in the ability of Sevipers chances to joining the game with how high they are in most tier lists. They have a solid design with different elements for people to play with as well as them being my favorite mon of which I have made some very convincing propaganda.
2: the slots are dwindling down at a rapid pace, there is a division with Seviper voters & Zangoose voters to the point they dont vote for them, someone leaked 3 different mons that may or may not join (most likely will), and there are like 20 mons that are more popular than Seviper that people want over them so It will be a miracle if they manage to join over 300+ mons.

[cinder oasis]

Parasect is nasty

[grave jolt]

It's always been "better arbok" to me personally lol

[high haven]

Might as well ask, who voted for Seviper, how high did you vote them and why did/didn't you vote them in the first place? Just curious is all.

[grave jolt]

Voted 2, because I liked it in the Anime

[lethal roost]

2 or 3 i can't go back to check
i think both of them are pretty good and distinct from existing mons

[high haven]

Okay, there's a chance. A big chance if you will

A better chance than most mons in the vote, but then again there are mons with better chances. But I'm feeling 100

Anyway I'm heading out. Good night.
https://tenor.com/view/seviper-sleeping-sleep-tired-sleepy-gif-15437451846134610766

[native nebula]

https://youtube.com/shorts/acfpxgykBgA?si=zx5WDz2xT-TsLOSt

https://tenor.com/view/seedot-gif-25300951

[woeful nebula]

little seed kills god 4k

[native nebula]

So this is real.

[woeful nebula]

this is literally me

[autumn radish]

I have updated my tierlist.
It's mostly the same, althought with few changes for the mons that are confirmed.

[native nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991265562107846676/1153388104179261460/RDT_20230918_205111.mp4

No I want that sound over seedot exploding.

[lethal roost]

im gonna level with y'all on the PMD stuff: as fun as that would be I don't actually know how much mileage you can get from that

its not a bad reason but I seriously can't think of anything that you could do for more than like 2 fusions

[alpine rune]

whats pmd?

[pale flame]

myster dyngien

[alpine rune]

a

[pale flame]

(can't spell it's 2am)

[alpine rune]

dont worry i speak 3 am language

[lethal roost]

like the fact that there's a chatot in mystery dungeon is cool. i just
don't know how that could be incorporated into a fusion

[pale flame]

mhm

[lethal roost]

i did hear a thing about Cryogonal/Cryogonal being the Bittercold but that's the extent of interesting ideas

and that's a thing that isn't even a pokemon its just a big ice spike

most of the PMD fusions I can find are specifically Dialga referencing the Time Gear or Primal Dialga

Grovyle has a small handful and they're all... basically the Time Gear thing again

[cinder oasis]

Does it still have Explosion in S/V?

[native nebula]

I'm old

Idk whatthat means. Having played anything since gen 4.

[cinder oasis]

Lol it gets explosion at LVL 33 now

Explosion with Wind rider seems pretty good ngl

[lethal roost]

ok yeah my PMD hunt is complete:
-basically all of them have to do with Explorers-era. like if more PMD fusions existed I'd expect the humble chestnut to appear on at least one mankey sprite and that never happens. ditto to Ampharos and the Connection Orb or w/e. i didn't play GtI so any Gates players inform me if gates-related fusions exist
-unless your name is Dialga they pretty much all have to do with each other. i assume this is because Dialga got assigned the Time Gear motif (Grovyle only gets a little bit of this)

edit: case in point, searching "Dark Matter" in this server brings up entirely kirby discussion

im not saying liking the concept of PMD fusions is a sin but I would really hope that the mon you pick has other reasons to be in

i mean it doesnt matter now voting's been over for like a week

[clever atlas]

More than a week
Like 3 at least

[lethal roost]

ye

[cinder oasis]

What does PMD mean?

[lethal roost]

pokemon mystery dungeon

[cinder oasis]

Ohhhh thanks

[alpine rune]

So anyway

ITs 4 days till the next mon shows up

I think it's aurorus

[clever atlas]

4!?
Bruh it's thursday

Or Wednesday

[alpine rune]

I mean in my region its sunday at 3 am

so yea 4 days cuz rn its thursday 2pm

wait...

[clever atlas]

Reveals Are on saturdays

[alpine rune]

anyways, I think its aurorus

[clever atlas]

Yeah Aurorus is cool, but:

[alpine rune]

i dont really like both of em tbh

cold take hot take, mfs measured opinions with a wrong system

[forest timber]

Congrads Goodra fans!

[brisk vessel]

I know a certain mon who plays a decently big role in GtI

[sharp nebula]

Dunsparce is already in the game

[brisk vessel]

I didn't say that big

[true seal]

When are the new pokemon being added in? The ones that were voted on I mean.

[high haven]

Sometime around/in October I believe

[hexed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/registeel-pokémon-registeel-metal-claw-pokémon-metal-claw-registeel-uses-metal-claw-gif-26179745

[alpine rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1145626588973633546/c62095fa5e0c9f19b105cb34e3492f8c.gif

[frozen remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-maractus-hide-and-seek-you-rang-gif-8323415973605464850

[lusty oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-audino-charjabug-smiling-glad-gif-9195755

[loud granite]

please add more better poison type like Drapion 😉

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/dragalge-pokemon-kalos-amie-pet-gif-27372796

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/seviper-attack-zangoose-pokemon-tag-team-gif-11563019

[alpine rune]

People forget that we dont have much fighting or fairy types in IF

[high haven]

I know

[alpine rune]

Another reason why I hate Gardevoir because people kept forgetting that fact

[high haven]

...Gardevoir is fairy, and by proxy Gallade is fighting...?

[alpine rune]

Yes

People use gardevoir so much that they forgot the other fairies
personal gripe

[ebon glacier]

Wdym by personal gripe? Elaborate

[prime dust]

we know about the other fairies...but honestly they just either don't look as good sprite wise [humanoid mons are somehow stupid easy to sprite] or they just lack a good move pool

[sullen elbow]

Add iron valiant to the game

[prime dust]

that'd be an alt sprite of a fusion if anything

[clever atlas]

People also forget we don't have a lot of non-ass rock types
I have a solution

[drowsy drift]

https://tenor.com/view/simisear-saturday-simisear-gif-23454367

[silent acorn]

Golem be like
"don't do me like this! I am the OG!"

[clever atlas]

Og sure, but bad

[atomic lagoon]

i think druddigon gets the least love out of all of the dragon types

i want drampa in more though

[clever atlas]

Drampa would be dope
Drudd would be less dope, but still pretty dope

[prime dust]

we have enough dergins for now

[clever atlas]

But the vast majority are hard to obtain (legendary or pseudo-legendary)

We currently have only 4 (including Tyrantrum) fully evolved non-pseudo non-legendary Dragon types
Flygon, Kingdra, Haxorus and Tyrantrum

[sand mica]

Is Grumpig expected to be in the game?

[clever atlas]

Nnhhh, i'd be very surprised

[sterile spoke]

Grumpig's a pretty unremarkable Pokémon, so I don't think so, unless a contest winner includes it in the prize draw. 😦

[frozen oyster]

Drampa would be awesome. It's ability is solid, good stats, and has an interesting body shape for fusion designs. Plus it's fluffy and cute.

[silent acorn]

That why I said "Golem be like" I am pretty sure even the hardest Gen 1 fan can't possibly defend ground as a typying ever

[clever atlas]

Rock be like

[white meadow]

ground and rock are good types separately

[full finch]

so wait i haven't been active in like ages, i thought new pokemon was impossible what happened?

[white meadow]

figured out how to add more ig

[alpine rune]

yes

[full finch]

wtf it's been 5 months since i last played the game time to redownload and restart

[dense inlet]

i mean

do we even have any decent fairy types before gen8

[full finch]

if i am correct the new pokemon are getting added but are not in the game yet right?

[dense inlet]

exactly

[sturdy breach]

yup

[full finch]

got it 👍

might as well play a little and remember how everything works as the update is being worked on

this means one day snivy might finally be added

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-what-emote-gif-23702501

Togekiss, Azumarill, Gardevoir, (Mega) Mawile, Ribombee, Klefki, and almost definitely more. 🙂

[dense inlet]

but those are already here

[normal vapor]

guys i lost count, how many community picks remain?

[dense inlet]

mostly

[normal vapor]

I want to specify I can only count to 4

[full finch]

it's okay most csm fans do not go above 3

[sterile spoke]

8, I think. 😄

[normal vapor]

Man why do you hate us

[full finch]

i don't its affectionate

[normal vapor]

Nice, I'm an SCP fan too btw

[last pecan]

7 community votes

[prisma willow]

Liligant please

[normal vapor]

Swablu, Meloetta and Necrozma can still do it 🙂

[prime dust]

8 poll slots remain

i've mini been over this, Sableye got confirmed as an extra slot via a reddit post Mr. Toad plopped down

he was very high in poll results, but the person who pulled the auto-gen sprites for the download over in #tech-support got to pick something as thanks and they chose Sableye

[sinful sky]

Great! That means we can get the elemental monkeys AND the Patrat line!

[prime dust]

Necrozma is on the limbo list since the whole datamine thing has possibly confirmed the addition of him, along with 3 other mons [only one of which is kind of unknown]

[violet current]

that means we got 4 slots left to theorize over if the datamines are correct

[clever atlas]

That means....

[violet current]

personally im hoping dhelmise or lurantis line

[outer matrix]

The data mines should be extras at this point

[violet current]

they could be all extras

we could potentially still have 8 more vote picks + the sand castles n space wizard

and if thats the case i want lurantis line, dhelmise, salazzle line, rockruff n lycanroc and zygarde

[prime dust]

well the garbage mons were, but they got picked by Mr. Toad

[tame flax]

And whose to say the data mined arent?

[tame flax]

Everytime they've said no more staff picks, there's been more staff picks

[sharp nebula]

are they still doing the contest winner pick? and will it be an extra

[tame flax]

They could say camerupt was added as a staff pick, there'd be no more, and another staff pick the following week wouldn't be off the table

[robust geyser]

when will they reveal Bruxish 😠

[tame flax]

Hopefully never

[azure beacon]

I hope bruxish will be revealed as the loser of the contest