pif-hoenn-discussion

[dusty arrow]

i honestly think its kinda.. cute? rats are pretty cute imo

[silent acorn]

Boy your concept of cute is rather concerning

[dusty arrow]

silly big rhat :)

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-gif-19370120

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-mouse-like-thumbs-up-rat-thumbs-up-gif-26155558

[silent acorn]

I like the thought that you really can't deny raticate is generic if you do you are a damn moron. Alright who wants to dispute?

[dusty arrow]

i like him because rhat
and alolan raticate is silly

[silent acorn]

Will you deny it's generic?

[dusty arrow]

no

[silent acorn]

Oh ok you are not a moron then

[dusty arrow]

its generic, but i still like him

kinda like bewear design wise maybe? but eh

[silent acorn]

Thats fine but the real reason it's generic it's because of the time it was designed in and the genre pokemon is

[dusty arrow]

yeah, you couldnt do much color scheme wise in the gameboy

like, name one gen 1 pokemon with more than like, 4 colors

[silent acorn]

Nah I mean the fact it's a rat if you are an RPG fan you know what I mean

[dusty arrow]

ohh

[silent acorn]

Yeah that

Thats why i am saying it's generic, kinda funny how it's literally the embodiment of that

Like 1 and 2 are rodents and then they changed it up in 3 and then in 4, 5, 6, 7 they went back to It again, and then in 8 and 9 they change it up again

[dusty arrow]

arent squirrels still rodents though

[silent acorn]

Yep

[dusty arrow]

then why did you say gen 8

[silent acorn]

What is the first normal you find in 8?

Thats the answer to what I mean they change it up in 8 and 9.

Raccoon or tanukis don't count as rodents

[dusty arrow]

skwovet is the regional normal rodent, unlike gen 9 who just has none
wouldnt really count wooloo as THE normal type honestly

[silent acorn]

Ah that's true I forgot the squirrel, funny how we have had like... 4? Emolga, pachirisu and skwovet and greenden
I don't think furret count as a squirrel

[dusty arrow]

its a ferret

also, i like greedent

[proper schooner]

Tandemouse

[silent acorn]

Ah is it really?

[dusty arrow]

silly fat squirrel

[dusty arrow]

furret
ferret

[silent acorn]

Oh yeah tandemouse. Wait then Gen 3 doesn't have a normal rodent does it?

[dusty arrow]

i dont think so, raccoons arent rodents

[silent acorn]

Oh what the hell then that means the only game without a normal rodent is 3 and well 6 I guess

[dusty arrow]

wait, what is whismur?

[dusty arrow]

oh right, rabbits arent rodents

[proper schooner]

Azurill

[silent acorn]

Whismur is... A lifeform

[dusty arrow]

eh.. doesnt really count

thats like calling pichu a gen 2 pikaclone

[silent acorn]

Thats gen 2

[proper schooner]

Azurill is gen 3, marill and azumarill are gen 2

[dusty arrow]

azurill wasnt made in gen 2

[silent acorn]

Huh? Really? I never found that thing in hoenn

[proper schooner]

Also, are mongoose rodents? If so there's zigzagoon

[silent acorn]

No... Mongoose aren't rodents, they are some weird other class

[dusty arrow]

zigzagoon is a raccoon

[proper schooner]

Zangoose*

[dusty arrow]

oh

[frank oxide]

🍞 <--- full of gluten

[sharp sphinx]

and?

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-its-as-shrimple-as-that-not-so-shrimple-elden-ring-elden-ring-meme-gif-26027466

[frank oxide]

You fool. You do not understand the power of the gluten.

[slate gazelle]

honestly surprised Spheal hasn’t gotten revealed yet
I’m worried about my boi
I hope they get in

[frank oxide]

i can confirm one thing,and its that its

[polar crown]

Ummm... what am I seeing?

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-clam-grass-jump-gif-25956447

[polar crown]

That... checks out.

[frank oxide]

yo

[polar crown]

[frank oxide]

eggcellent oun in your name

really cracked me up

[polar crown]

Well, I've made... about 80 different Pokemon eggs, so yeah.

That reminds me, I need to update some charts. Maybe.

[frank oxide]

But you're not bready for what's about to come

https://tenor.com/view/its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-simply-mantastic-mantastic-manta-ray-gif-26542779

[polar crown]

My sister and brother and his family are all gluten intolerant. Me, at yeast I can handle my grains.

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/benefishial-beneficial-shrimple-grouper-clamplicated-gif-26440220

[frank oxide]

my family*

[polar crown]

I mean my brother, his wife, and his kids. Yes, we're related, but they are his family.

[frank oxide]

ohhh right ye no i understand

just bad prasing for fist one i think

[polar crown]

🤷‍♂️ idk, I think it was fine. Anyways, if I had to choose one fighting type to add, would I add Croagunk (btw, my odds of getting to add a mon to the game is equally good with everyone elses, the frog isn't giving me any special treatment).

I missed getting to participate in the staff vote.

[proper schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/youve-got-to-be-squidding-me-its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-squid-gif-26786461

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/clampicated-kelp-pun-fish-pun-gif-26915972

[cinder oasis]

I am one in a krillion

[slate osprey]

I'm bad at keeping track of things, but how many Pokemon are left from the community vote

5 were just announced so are we down to 7?

[brisk vessel]

Yes

4 more mons and presumably 3 legendaries/mythicals

[bleak plaza]

Im still hoping diancie/megearna gets in

[slate osprey]

Ugh. Well, guess I have to post the sign again

[white meadow]

One day they probably will

[alpine rune]

I missed the fish puns moment

[sharp sphinx]

what are the legendary mthricals besides ||necrozma||

[alpine rune]

diance?

[slate gazelle]

Meloetta is one

[sterile verge]

every time a pokemon is revealed and it isn't either Minior or Castform i die a little bit inside

https://tenor.com/view/9z-9zteam-this-is-fine-this-is-fine9z-fine9z-gif-23924730

[dusty arrow]

of all pokemon you chose fucking castform

[sterile verge]

yes,
and you should've too

[dusty arrow]

no

[kindred knot]

perfect, they should not

[dusty arrow]

im not choosing the weak ass boob cloud

[sterile verge]

rude

[dusty arrow]

id rather choose shit-tank than even think about castform

[sterile verge]

its a cool pokemon with a neat design and a unique gimmick

[dusty arrow]

"neat design"
n o

[sterile verge]

yes

[kindred knot]

gimmick that doesnt really achieve much

[dusty arrow]

literally how

[dusty arrow]

and would barely work in-game due to the small amount of weather abilities
and the fact that castform would make any fusion utterly shitty stat wise

[sterile verge]

the pokemon changes type to match the weather, gets stab on it's now boosted weather ball, and changes how it looks

[kindred knot]

how about, just get that type instead of needing weather to change

wasting an ability slot for something better

[dusty arrow]

its sun form looks like a walmart solrock

dont get me started on its lack of sand form

[sterile verge]

bro its stats are bad because it got 70's across the board, which gets fixed when you ya know, fuse him

[dusty arrow]

yeah, the stats make the fusion weaker

[kindred knot]

you mean, dragging down the possible more optimal fusion potential

[dusty arrow]

if i wanted a weather form mon i would choose cherrim

[kindred knot]

you want fire form in sun, just get a fire type bro. A single team rarely have two different weather to make use of weather forms

[sterile verge]

the ability to make mons that are made of clouds, water, sun, or hail to match the type of fusion your making

[kindred knot]

on top of that, if your mon that creates weather is dead in a match, it just goes useless

[sterile verge]

you guys seem fun in parties

[kindred knot]

except we arent in a party

[sterile verge]

next your going to say they shouldnt have added shedinja because it has 1 hp and bad stats

[kindred knot]

my guy starts gaslighting when he couldnt counter argue.

[sterile verge]

bro all your talking about is the stats what do you want me to say about that

[dusty arrow]

theres a difference between best ability in the game and castform

[kindred knot]

because thats what the discussion was all about????

[sterile verge]

no it was about whether it should be added in IF

[dusty arrow]

it shouldnt

[kindred knot]

and my argument is it shouldnt

and I provided my points to counter your points

[dusty arrow]

we got plenty of other pokemon for weather fusions

[kindred knot]

which were coincidentally just talking about stats and game mechanic

[sterile verge]

i tried to explain that it has a fun gimmick, an ability that makes it cool since it can change type, a lot of fusion potential sprite wise, and all you guys say is "but what about the competitive scene though?"

[dusty arrow]

fusion potential gone

[kindred knot]

and ofc, even with its ability to weather change, it will likely only get one sprite per fusion instead of each form

[dusty arrow]

gimmick near unusable

[sterile verge]

yea but thats a lot of potential for said 1 sprite

[kindred knot]

and if we want cloud, drifblim is in the game, and altaria is also in the poll

[sterile verge]

want to fuse it with a sand stream user like tyranitar? you could make it a sandnado or something.
want to make use of the fact its a sun in sun form? you can do that too
any weather condition can be this fusion

[dusty arrow]

if we want sun we got volcarona and groudon
if we want rain we got kyogre and lugia
if we want sand we got t-tar
if we want hail we got pretty much any ice type

[lethal roost]

my thing with castform is that I agree with the idea that its forms could reference different conditions based on the other mon

but only as the head

it is not a very good body. i put it down as 1 anyway because its cool

[sterile verge]

at least thats something
i respect your opinion

[stone cliff]

Yeah its default form has an... unfortunate body shape

[lethal roost]

not what i meant. it's just kind of a head

[sterile verge]

yea cant argue with that

[sterile verge]

thats up to interpretation since only its basic form is like that

all the other forms are completely different from eachother besides its ball head-thing

[lethal roost]

i think its just a very simplified cloud and its supposed to build up with all the other forms

[stone cliff]

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be mad if it got in, but it would be another Aegislash situation

[kindred knot]

darkrai situation

[sterile verge]

i view it in the same way as i view rotom
a lot of cool ideas for head mons
body would need to be carried by the other material

[lethal roost]

nah, aegislash has design traits as a body

[kindred knot]

I wish we get rotom wash

[alpine rune]

we got rotom wash at home

[sterile verge]

yea aegislash is goated
stat wise head fusions win out 9/10 times tho 🥲

[alpine rune]

Rotom wash at home:

[kindred knot]

Don’t care about the sprite, just give me the stat

[dusty arrow]

gets dragged down by 70

[alpine rune]

I kinda dont want the rotom forms tbh. Feels like fusion wise it would like limit the creativity for most

[stone cliff]

Kind of, but there's not a ton of Pokemon that fit it well enough for it to be worth it

[alpine rune]

like who wouldve think to make rotom metronome?

[sterile verge]

they are exceptions of coure, like mons with insane spdef making aegislash bodies blitz literally anything with shadow ball

[alpine rune]

One of many examples of excellent creativity right there

[sterile verge]

facts

[dusty arrow]

but the thing is with rotom: you can have plenty of good ideas to make
castform only has ONE thing going for it: weather.
which other pokemon do better

[sterile verge]

if people are this creative with one lil goober, i wish they'd just give my lil goober a chance

[dusty arrow]

ROTOM HAS A BUNCH OF IDEAS
CASTFORM IS ONLY WEATHER
BOOB CLOUD BAD

[kindred knot]

Put rotom wash stats in to replace regular rotom, keep the same sprite

[lethal roost]

you're so right

adds Forces of Nature

[dusty arrow]

live lando-t reaction

[lethal roost]

i think, opposed to other form changers, castform falls down

minior better

[kindred knot]

I would honestly use rotom if regular rotom stat isn’t so tragic

[kindred knot]

Petty 100 attack stats

[sterile verge]

yea i see castform as my #2 and minior as my #1

[dusty arrow]

i would use rotom if it wasnt the only fire/electric type

[lethal roost]

its like "what if aegislash was slightly worse but at least you couldnt burn it before it attacked"

[dusty arrow]

doesnt it get shell smash

[lethal roost]

more to the point though i just think minior has more design

[kindred knot]

I think best use of minior is belly drum

[lethal roost]

true

[kindred knot]

Or you know, a certain ultra beast clown

[dusty arrow]

belly drum is the only reason i gave slurpuff a somewhat high vote

[lethal roost]

really? not because you could make dessert fusion?

[dusty arrow]

(belly drum sitrus berry unburden )

[lethal roost]

i mean, a vote for the puff is a vote well given, its just

man

[kindred knot]

Now the issue is, how do we know what will happen in a fusion with shields down

[lethal roost]

yeah i dont know how the speed boost would be calculated

[kindred knot]

Stat wise

[lethal roost]

the atk/def flipping is something Stance Change already does

[sterile verge]

probably as a percentage increase or smthin

[kindred knot]

If it is a multiplier, it is a fucking monster…

[alpine rune]

Hail, Drought, Rain, Sandstorm, Thunderstorm, Rainbow cloud, extreme winds, meteor shower, critter rain, volcanic smog, toxic rain, meatball rain, water spouts, ultra violet radiation, pollution

yea i only can think of some

[lethal roost]

depends

a lot of the pokemon Minior wants to fuse with are already slow
the flat +60 might actually do more for them

[grave jolt]

NO

[dusty arrow]

nuh uh

[kindred knot]

I love the clown

[sterile verge]

the mad dash to make Mr.Mime/Blasephelon first would crash IF's discord

[dusty arrow]

also i aint reading allat

[kindred knot]

Rock head blasephelon here we go

[lethal roost]

isnt it magic guard

[brisk vessel]

Magic Guard better smh

[alpine rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/302153478556352513/1130846025406488677/219.gif

[kindred knot]

you guys are right

[dusty arrow]

flamethrower

[lethal roost]

thats good though because the mons that get rock head are PATHETIC PHYS ATTACKERS and we want nothing to do with that

[dusty arrow]

live tyrantrum reaction

[lethal roost]

blacephalon/alakazam btw

[lethal roost]

that looks like a phys attacker to me buddy

[dusty arrow]

121 attack
dragon dance

[lethal roost]

we're talking about mind blown which is
A. a special attack
B. the gimmick we're talking about doesn't work with rock head anyway

[kindred knot]

Mind blown

[dusty arrow]

technically a physical blacephalon set would still work

[kindred knot]

Mind Blown deals damage, but the user sacrifices 1⁄2 of its maximum HP in recoil.

[brisk vessel]

Magic Guard Steel Beam

[dusty arrow]

magic guard heatran with steel beam and mind blown

[kindred knot]

Rock head actually will work with mind blown

[dusty arrow]

also fun fact!!! magic guard ignores life orb damage, but still gives the boost

[brisk vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702626820876533851/1153545412314153010/image.png

[dusty arrow]

rock head does not, making magic guard strictly superior

[brisk vessel]

Sheer Force does the same and adds another 30% on top of the Life Orb 30%

[dusty arrow]

but only to moves with secondary effects

[lethal roost]

its not recoil

[brisk vessel]

Lots of moves have secondary effects tbf

[kindred knot]

Weird, last time I saw I remember seeing mind blown

[lethal roost]

steel beam also has the same not-recoil thing going on where its magic guard instead

mind blown does exist in IF its just that the mons that get it aren't fire-type and no fire-types get magic guard so you are STABless forever

not terrible, but not impressive
blacephalon offers us the only REAL choice for admittedly niche but hilarious gimmicks

also blacephalon's design just bangs

[kindred knot]

Good for sprite, both head and body

Imagine blacephalon+magnezone just turn into a tesla coil

[lethal roost]

that seems more like a Xurkitree gimmick

a pokemon id also want but, despite its placing on my tierlist, less than blacephalon

[kindred knot]

I meant like this

[lethal roost]

ohhhh

[alpine rune]

i feel like it fits more towards xurkitree/magnezone

But I can see Rotom/Blacephalon in this

[kindred knot]

Rotom/blacephalon? EMP

[alpine rune]

.... that would work

[lethal roost]

ok actually yeah there has to be something to fuse blacephalon with thats just a plasma ball and rotom/blacephalon might be it

[kindred knot]

Make a piñata

[alpine rune]

thats like either banette or mimikyu

[kindred knot]

The color scheme from blacephalon quite matches

And the concept of exploding

[alpine rune]

oh sorry i meant blachephalon + mimikyu or banette

[stone cliff]

Mimikyu Ludicolo

[alpine rune]

Ludicolo + corsola

[lethal roost]

though the blacephalon/alakazam thing has inspired me to at least concept that fusion at some point

[stone cliff]

Ludicolo is underappreciated imo

[lethal roost]

im thinking its the mega and it juggles around tiny versions of the Blacephalon head in place of the spoons

[stone cliff]

Lombre a lil awkward but lotad is cute

[lethal roost]

lombre's a good boy 👍

[spice idol]

Wait are there gonna be more new Pokémon cause it’s at 21/20, unless I miscounted

[surreal chasm]

Some of them are staff picks so they don't count towards the 20 vote picks

[lethal roost]

not all of the pokemon count. right now there are 7 slots remaining

[spice idol]

Ohh no wonder oricorio got in

[surreal chasm]

And two of those are gonna be Sandygast & Palossand hopefully

[spice idol]

Alr ty

[spice idol]

Another 2 better be clawitzer and it’s pre evo which I forgot

[surreal chasm]

If Carvanha and Sharpedo are good enough to get it Palossand is too

[lethal roost]

||the playtest had an encounter with sandygast datamined. no word on if it takes slots though||

[surreal chasm]

Clawncher I believe

[lethal roost]

yeah i want either clawitzer or dragalge

[surreal chasm]

I really love both of them so I'm hoping for one of them too

They'll make for great fusion designs

[surreal chasm]

I don't want that to give me false hope so I'm taking that with a grain of salt

[lethal roost]

i mean i dont know why that would be in there otherwise but ok 👍

i want palossand too, banger mon

[sterile spoke]

Palossand is all but confirmed, isn't it? 😮

[sterile spoke]

Why is the text so small? 😮

Also, the vote's over. 😂

[unique rock]

Womp womp :(

[alpine rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1145626588973633546/c62095fa5e0c9f19b105cb34e3492f8c.gif

My hopes for the dinosaur is 0% but heres a picture of it anyway

[analog spade]

The fusion that scares me is Pallosand & Dugtrio. I feel like its gonna be cursed.

[cyan hare]

I just want dhelmise man

[dry nest]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-26783441

All I want

[restive folio]

Where did fishing hole go?

Oh we got goodra , nice

[alpine rune]

glalie froze it

[fresh owl]

7/8 slots left, pour one out for the lizard. Really smoking that pipe RN.

[lament tundra]

We need mightyena so team sky can finally make it flying type

[white meadow]

Im sure it gets in one day
Maybe not the first time but maybe next time

[white meadow]

What lizard

[bleak plaza]

I wonder if lycanrock gets added if they would give it three forms or just the two

[white meadow]

Good question
Not cuz of the stats but body fusions for of Lycan Day and dusk

[bleak plaza]

Cause technically theres 4 slots left for non legendary mons. That means theoretically they could add all of the lycanrock line in one go

Or any other mon that has multiple forms

[alpine rune]

team what

[sterile spoke]

Who said those slots were for non-Legendaries? 😮

They could all be Legendaries, as far as we know. 😅

[brisk vessel]

Oh yeah the tapus 🥹

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[alpine rune]

we all know its spinda forms

[lament tundra]

Team Magma wants to expand the land. Team Aqua wants to expand the Sea. Team Sky wants to expand the sky.

[brisk vessel]

I hope we don't get the tapus

[bleak plaza]

My coping mechanisms

[alpine rune]

How the fuck do you expand the sky?

[sterile spoke]

I don't think we will get them. 😅

[brisk vessel]

The abilities are cool but they all do pretty much the same gimmick

Inb4 it's like

Regis + cress

[sterile spoke]

Taking up four slots, detailed designs, and all the rest. 😛

Cresselia's the one Legendary I don't mind, and Diancie is the one Mythical. 🙂

[brisk vessel]

I just want meloetta

[sterile spoke]

I'm like 95% sure Necrozma is getting in though. I'm so sorry. 😢

[alpine rune]

honestly if regis come in, I want to make a petition of making a quad fusion

[sterile spoke]

I failed you all, everyone. I fought lonh and hard against Necrozma, but it prevailed. 😦

[tame nebula]

Hoping for Lilligant

[bleak plaza]

I want this one. I wanna eat it

[brisk vessel]

I'll kill yo-

[alpine rune]

yummy rock

[tame nebula]

Add this one actually

[alpine rune]

bro a goddamn larvitar

[tame nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/diancie-pokemon-kalos-6thgen-gif-gif-18312916

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-yveltal-xerneas-pokemon-gif-10271557

[white meadow]

Yesssss light beast goes idk its sound

[bleak plaza]

Plot twist zygard is the last mon to be added all forms included

[alpine rune]

[brisk vessel]

EEEEYEEEUHHOOOAHHH

[alpine rune]

Id be a happy guy if zygarde comes in

[white meadow]

bro is sableye

[alpine rune]

But i really doubt it

[bleak plaza]

He would take up too many slots

[brisk vessel]

Meloettasweep is back boys

[alpine rune]

although yea its a stretch to have 5 more dex entries

[fresh owl]

Do you not see my name? lol

https://tenor.com/view/salazzle-talk-to-the-hand-gif-13428078

Should be obvious

[prime dust]

so yeah, turns out sableye counts as an extra

according to a reddit post the big man made

[tame flax]

Wait what?

[prime dust]

and yes that is

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-toad-frog-mesmerized-gif-3938170

the origin post

we have 8 slots from the poll

[sterile spoke]

The pin has been updated accordingly. 😉

[white meadow]

Yes

[honest tartan]

More room for luvdisk

[white meadow]

So we have 8 slots left

[prime dust]

ye

that news will likely take a bit to trickle through

since it is early as f

[vapid tundra]

suprised there's no trubbish Goomy yet.

[woeful root]

Man I am so happy to see goomy, now if we can get ribombee the majority of my favorites will be in

[drowsy drift]

https://tenor.com/view/druddigon-petting-pet-druddigon-pokemon-rough-skin-gif-13024017315206678110

[sterile spoke]

Ribombee is one of my top picks. 😄

[clever atlas]

More chances for my babies to make it in!

[vapid tundra]

i have a complicated relationship with Ribombee

because Ribombee is a cruel, merciless grenadier with Pollen Puff:

But she's such a sweet lil' gal who sends Pi- Pollen Puffs to those who need them.

[tame nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-charjabug-lilligant-gif-9433738

[vapid tundra]

Claunch the Sharpedos

[woeful root]

I love maractus, poor girl gets no love though 😢

[vapid tundra]

hey now, James gives her plenty

at least, i'm Fairly certain Cacturn evolved

[silent acorn]

Cacnea evolves cacturne doesn't

[sharp nebula]

very important question, whats your favourite pokemon cry?

[vapid tundra]

and why is it Cricketune

[alpine rune]

anime or ingame?

[silent acorn]

Reshiram and second to that skeledirge

[sharp nebula]

in game

[vapid tundra]

Delelele Whoooop!

[alpine rune]

chatot

[crude garden]

Praise be to the hypnotoad for blessing us with yet another free slot so we're up to 12 survey picks, and 7(or 10?) Staff picks, with 8 more survey picks and 1 more contest winner, so we're looking at a31 Pokemon update? That's absolutely massive!

[silent acorn]

The hypnotoad sacrifice thee free slots to grant thy wish of goo

[clever atlas]

Off the top of my head, Glaceon has a nice cry

[sharp nebula]

regigigas is mine

[clever atlas]

And froslass

[crude garden]

Gastrodon has a fun cry

[drowsy drift]

going to make a wild guess and say that pumpkaboo is going to be announced next month

[silent acorn]

Weeeeeeeeh shuuuuugushuuuugu

[vapid tundra]

i welcome our Car-Horn Sample overlords, Cricketune and Kriketot

[drowsy drift]

bedeleledele woooooooop

[crude garden]

Kriketune goes on for just long enough that it is funny and not annoying

[vapid tundra]

BEDLELELE WOOOOOP

[warm rock]

boy i sure hope my pick makes it in

[drowsy drift]

https://youtu.be/nPWhyKR7Ni4?t=8

[vapid tundra]

Kriketune taught me the wonders of Not playing the game with audio on

[drowsy drift]

taught me the wonders of bide

[vapid tundra]

the immediate recomended video: Ave Maria as sung by Kriketune

[silent acorn]

Just gonna say it's funny that the only pokemon that speaks in its cry it's glammeow, everyone too focused on kricketune to notice

[drowsy drift]

it's actually a good video

[crude garden]

I still want to see the full performance of Hamlet by the elcor from Mass effect

[clever atlas]

Pikachu and eevee moment

[inland carbon]

steel + ice type when

[vapid tundra]

:Uninspired Deadpan: What Forth. from yonder. window. breaks.

[ebon glacier]

Never

[vapid tundra]

you will never get your slushee-machine

also- Bidoof speaks in it's cry

[drowsy drift]

IF needs the heavily bitcrushed pikachu cry from yellow as an easter egg if you fuse pikachu with the porygon line

[silent acorn]

Honestly doesn't sound like they are speaking because of how pixelated it is

[drowsy drift]

https://youtu.be/LNV4P3DFPps?t=3

[silent acorn]

Ok now that's more fair it do that in yellow but never again

[clever atlas]

The modern cries are literally speech tho?

[silent acorn]

Like what pikachu now? Let me see that

[clever atlas]

You know, the Pika!
I swear i heard him do that somewhere

[silent acorn]

Huh... They did change it what the heck

Since when? 6? I didn't keep up with pikachu too much.

[drowsy drift]

semi-related: the voiced pikachu cry was in the playtest build

[silent acorn]

Gen 8 confirmed?

[proper schooner]

They changed it back to the original cry in legends arceus and scarlet and violet

[clever atlas]

Also, you know how in the playtest the head/body typing was different?
Like, currently it's head-primary type and body-secondary but in the playtest it was the other way around?
Is it gonna be as it is currently or this new format? Do we even have any info on this?

[brisk vessel]

Sableye is now considered a Staff Pick so we can hit 450

There are now 4 slots after Goodra (please don't be the Cosmog line)

[clever atlas]

Heheheh tapu time

Or......

[brisk vessel]

Tapus would most likely be before Goomy if they ever had a chance

[sullen elbow]

Two of the monkey lines

[brisk vessel]

Your end is coming

[brisk vessel]

Lycanroc line is 4 slots 🥹

[clever atlas]

Only two

[brisk vessel]

Or 3 slots at most

[sullen elbow]

Me when pinned messeges

[brisk vessel]

Oh right the slot thing

[edgy dune]

Are all the slots now full/announced? I'm not sure how the "bonus" ones interact with the initial plan of doing roughly 20

[vapid tundra]

oh boy, i hope Spinda makes it in!

[clever atlas]

Not all of them

[vapid tundra]

how many slots would every Spinda form take>

[prime dust]

Toad already said form variations count as 1 slot even if they take up multiple dex slots

that's the case for oricorio

[clever atlas]

1, because pins

[crude garden]

Yup, lycanroc would be 2 slots

[edgy dune]

Do we know how many more are due to be announced?

[prime dust]

spinda would probably be a case for alt sprites

[clever atlas]

8 iirc

[vapid tundra]

IIRC 8 more slots remain.

[crude garden]

8 more survey picks and 1 contest winner pick

[edgy dune]

Sweet. Will continue to hold out hope for Deerling and Sawsbuck then

[vapid tundra]

i hope gogoat makes it in, or by a flashy miracle: Bounsweet, Steenee, and Step o Tsareena makes it in. but i doubt that one, that'd be 3 slots

[brisk vessel]

I only have one hope

[vapid tundra]

a rocket Clawncher?

[brisk vessel]

What

[vapid tundra]

oh yeah, meloletta

the Hatsunemiku-mon

[marsh lily]

did someone mention ste

[midnight bane]

You can’t tell me that Guzzlord wouldn’t be perfect to be in this game he’d have some crazy fusions people could be so creative with that

[inland jewel]

I want more fighting types

[brisk vessel]

I have like 1 idea for the guzzler

[vapid tundra]

Mr Guzzle

[inland jewel]

We only have 13 of them

[midnight bane]

Lycanroc would be cool I think he is fighting rock right?

[brisk vessel]

He isn't

[midnight bane]

Dang what is his typing then dark rock?

[inland jewel]

Just Rock

[brisk vessel]

Pure rock

[midnight bane]

Wait really?
All forms?

[vapid tundra]

honestly i was dissapointed Muh Boy didn't make it to the polls

[brisk vessel]

Yes

[inland jewel]

Yep, the only difference is 10 stat shift and abilities

And moves they can learn

[midnight bane]

Woah i feel so embarrassed that I didn’t know the typing of one of my favourite Pokémon

[dull root]

The only Mon I'm really hoping for is Lurantis

[brisk vessel]

Necrozma is basically confirmed at this point so I don't need to talk about him

[vapid tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-gif-10689733

[midnight bane]

Honestly Buzzwole could also be very cool

[regal vault]

How necrozma It wasn't advertised 😩

[inland jewel]

Thinking about it now, the strange plant might be Trevanent

[vapid tundra]

the boy.

How could the boy not make it in

[regal vault]

Where?

[brisk vessel]

During the playtest

[dull root]

It was datamined iirc

[inland jewel]

Data mined data

[vapid tundra]

Scraggy!

[edgy dune]

In the whole Dex? Surely not

[clever atlas]

There's still hope

[regal vault]

Where

[brisk vessel]

They got datamined leaks from the playtest that hinted at Necrozma

[inland jewel]

Ice and Fight are the lowest represented with 13 each

[vapid tundra]

Scraggy wasn't in the poll options

[brisk vessel]

The playtest is closed now

[clever atlas]

He was tho

[dull root]

Which, given what was datamined. I wouldn't put it past frogman to not include them out of spite

[vapid tundra]

ice deserves it tho.

[sullen elbow]

We should add crabbobinable then

[inland jewel]

Ice ain’t good until we get a snow warning mon

[vapid tundra]

its all snover

[midnight bane]

Btw idk if Hariyama is in the game but if he is not he should be added ngl

[brisk vessel]

We have delibird

[vapid tundra]

when i first heard of Delibird- i thought it was a bird that operated a Deli Slicer

[inland jewel]

Which to be fair we have delibird but one it’s delibird, and two, he has it as a hidden ability

[vapid tundra]

i was actually dissapointed it was just santa as an owl

[brisk vessel]

Delibird is at least funny

Unlike certain other "mons" (luvdi

[edgy dune]

Huh. Would've thought there was more

[midnight bane]

Delibird is a pretty funny Pokémon in my opinion but he just needs something that makes it a more special Pokémon

[vapid tundra]

Pinsir Delibird

[inland jewel]

Apparently fighting types don’t make good fusions

[edgy dune]

The bag is flesh. I hate it.

[midnight bane]

I still don’t see why Alomomola isn’t luvdisc’s evo

[sullen elbow]

Like a broken paradox form

[brisk vessel]

Delibird with Snow Warning is nice at least but it would be funny if he had 136 speed with 124 SpAtk and learned Freeze Dry and Hydro Pump

[sullen elbow]

Because gen 5

[vapid tundra]

IDK, fighting is a clutch hitter with certain typings

[midnight bane]

But that doesn’t make Delibird better that just pretty much clones it

[vapid tundra]

a fighting Dragon would be funny, NGL

[inland jewel]

We have one, it’s called Kommo-o

[brisk vessel]

Idk how to feel about kommo o tbh

[midnight bane]

Magmar evolves into magmortar Also from different regions

[plush pilot]

We don't have a Fighting/Dragon type?

[inland jewel]

The only Psuedo not in the game now

[brisk vessel]

Gen 4 wasn't a complete retcon of Gen 1

[sullen elbow]

Gen 5 is built different

[regal vault]

Dragapult

[sullen elbow]

Baxcalibur

[midnight bane]

I find kommo-o a very disappointing pseudo

[inland jewel]

They said Gen 8-9 ain’t coming into the game so we can never have dragapult

[midnight bane]

Is Goodra in the game?

[plush pilot]

Then why do we have mimikyu

[regal vault]

Never is strong word

[vapid tundra]

Yes, Goodra made the cut

[brisk vessel]

Gen 8 and 9 aren't included sadly so I can't have Eternatus my beloved

[sullen elbow]

Gen 7

[inland jewel]

That’s because it’s 4x weak to fairy, which is a very common type in competitive

[midnight bane]

Cus Mimikyu is a fan favourite pretty sure

[midnight bane]

I mean I don’t like how it looks

[plush pilot]

Completely forgot mimikyu was gen 7

[inland jewel]

I love how Kommo-I looksi looks a lot better than Goodra

[midnight bane]

I love gen 3 6 and 7

[vapid tundra]

Kommo Esta

[midnight bane]

Ye we all have our own opinions

[brisk vessel]

It would be better if kommo had actual horns 😁

[plush pilot]

Hell yea to 6, ORAS and XY brought me good memories

[brisk vessel]

Also goodra was a mistake to add and people are already regretting it considering how many "rule breaking" sprites were made within the past day

[midnight bane]

I think kommo-o just misses like the part where it looks kinda buff like the other pseudos

[inland jewel]

True, someone just has to code all of gen 8-9 and their abilities and moves and send it to frogman, he might even add a Pokémon of your choosing

[plush pilot]

It's slime-

[brisk vessel]

There have already been 4 Incidents

[vapid tundra]

p'sure all the issue sprites are because people wanted to make a Suu sprite

[plush pilot]

Every sprite could have a problem depending on the type of person who makes it

[inland jewel]

Getting the Miltank treatment I see

[brisk vessel]

(I was the only one who was allowed)

[midnight bane]

I need therapy after seeing some of miltank fusions

[vapid tundra]

i support all the body horror sprites.

[midnight bane]

I love this fusion I just have no idea what Pokémon are used for it

[vapid tundra]

so many, genuinely terrifying sprites, glorious.

[inland jewel]

Looks like Kyurem or Reshiram

[midnight bane]

There def are a bunch of those which is very cool cus then you have like variety with sprites

[vapid tundra]

reminder, Charizard is not an actual dragon, it's a Bird.

[dull root]

If people could just not be horny/nasty we could have nice things

[midnight bane]

But what do they have to do with salamence garchomp charizard dragonite and gyarados

[brisk vessel]

I can make both cute women and giant monstrosities

[inland jewel]

Exactly, for all the “ Just a cat” nay sayers we can make extremely cool sprites

[midnight bane]

I know it doesn’t have dragon typing but I think it should be a dragon even tho it doesn’t have the typing

[inland jewel]

Look at all the Electrode fusions and he is just a ball with a face

[vapid tundra]

sorry man, Charizard is a Bird.

[midnight bane]

I know it is a fact that he is just a bird I just think it would’ve made more sense if it was a dragon

[vapid tundra]

it would make sense; but i do not make the rules: he is either a Bat or a Bird.

[plush pilot]

Wish we got a custom for this

But :p is pretty funny

[midnight bane]

Huh wait what a bat?

[vapid tundra]

Zubat is Flying

in fact- Zubat is closer to being a Dragon than Charizard is!

[midnight bane]

Huh I need an explanation for that

[vapid tundra]

Noibat

[sullen elbow]

Zubat doesn't have a dragón type mega

[vapid tundra]

flying Dragon Noibat is closer to Zubat in design than Charizard.

[midnight bane]

I can see why noibat could be a dragon even tho he got the like same way bats find locations using sounds

[plush pilot]

Question
Is it bad to use official artwork as a base to make alts or fusions

[agile olive]

there are some really good autogens

[agile olive]

nope, in fact it's encouraged

[plush pilot]

I need to remake these.

They're from a random type artlocke

Welcome to the artlocke where most of my pokemon are part dragon or just dragon

[silent acorn]

Why is it called artlocke? Oh hang on they are all random stuff?

[green glen]

Ooooo Ur-Dragon reference is sick

[agile olive]

artlocke, is that what we're calling it? I've only called it 'my sprites only run'

[prime dust]

i feel like they need funny dergin names

[plush pilot]

Artlocke, basically a Nuzlocke where you draw your encounters, even if one dies, you gotta draw the death

[prime dust]

the quag and not butter just don't roll off the tongue

[agile olive]

I did not recognise that

(I still don't, even now you say it's Ur Dragon)

[plush pilot]

I'm trying to not lose anyone

[silent acorn]

I dont like goodra because there is only one fusion that I want

The Goolord

[prime dust]

you do realize you've just jinxed yourself

[silent acorn]

Watch as you fail like 5 times for being ambitious

[plush pilot]

I'm not Alpharad

[green glen]

Famous MTG card, lore wise it’s the cosmic progenitor of all dragons

[silent acorn]

You have to be cocky after the fact

[silent acorn]

Doubled jinxed now

[silent acorn]

I always question fantasy when they say avatar of all like it just pops into the world like arceus did

Like "Oh yeah at the beginning of it all there was this egg that hatched on its own"

[vapid pier]

yoo what fusion is that

[midnight bane]

I legit have no idea but I can try something

[silent acorn]

Kyurem charizard or something

[green glen]

Yeah it has a weird vibe narratively and in the world building, but it makes for cool game pieces, like this and arceus

[midnight bane]

There we go

[silent acorn]

I mean its not just weird but kinda goofy when someone tries to explain it as seriously as they can like it feels like a Greek myth being narrated, like the one where one of Zeus lady friends get turned into a cow

[green glen]

Io?

[silent acorn]

Yep, all because hera was jelly

Not wanna be one of those people but this is the channel where we talk about the mons from the vote. I got nuked due to breaking that rule last time

Maybe this goes in like other pokemon games or off topic

[vapid pier]

where to find kyurem

[plush pilot]

Also I realized this is the wrong channel to talk about my Artlocke sorry

[silent acorn]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/412243367439761408
Ask here

Don't worry copycat happens often

[vapid pier]

kk ty

[fresh owl]

3.3 billion including all the patterns.

[clever atlas]

Wasn't it like 3,9 bil?

[odd current]

I thought it was 2.1 billion

[plush pilot]

I think roms can fit into other pokemon games right

[silent acorn]

Yes

[plush pilot]

Alr

[terse fable]

So basically, we're saying we want every Spinda pattern in the game

[clever atlas]

No

[sharp nebula]

ye

[clever atlas]

One madman brought it up^^^

[silent acorn]

If we had spinda most fusions would legally be allowed to be just one changed pixel

[crude garden]

We need a second survey for the best spinda pattern when spinda gets added

[plush pilot]

Can we get a Blobby Spinda reference

[terse fable]

As long as they have all 3 billion to choose from I'm game

[plush pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-blobby-blobby-fun-no-worry-bad-gif-19214228

[crude garden]

I'm down, vote three on pattern 2,874,501,277

[winged garnet]

Why did you remind me of that thing

[gentle ferry]

Well at this point as much as I still have copium for Gastrodon, I think the closest mon to the top in my fav list I can hope for is Kartana.

[sharp nebula]

you dont love mr blobby?

[meager python]

So many people hate UBs for 0 reason

So that likely wont happen

[white meadow]

Well there are some reasons

[meager python]

Not good reasons

[white meadow]

Well some reasons are good enough opinion wise
Either you dont like the designgs at all
Dont see the potential
Or think it dont fit in PIF

[surreal chasm]

Sand

[mellow estuary]

how many lots are left now?

[sharp nebula]

8 i think

[violet pawn]

7

[sharp nebula]

check pins, you can work it out

[mellow estuary]

Cmon Excadrill nation

[silk narwhal]

"nation" not even a village

[mellow estuary]

its a continent

[meager python]

Literally my favorite pokemon that people only remember for stealth rocks mold breaker :(

[mellow estuary]

nahhh

[terse fable]

Cmon Excadrill nation! looks at smiley faces on fingers gangs all here

[mellow estuary]

excadrill way more popular than that, bro was one of the faces of Gen 5 OU

[silk narwhal]

your favorite pokemon
excadrill's your favorite

[violet pawn]

I'm pretty sure sableye counts as a vote pick, unless frogman has stated otherwise

[sharp nebula]

he has

[silk narwhal]

come on man

[mellow estuary]

hes one of yeah, excadrill is peak fusion potential too

[meager python]

Who was only used to set rocks with mold breaker. Sometimes set sand and was then used as a pivot

[mellow estuary]

nah, bro was an offensive beast

[meager python]

But was rarely used as such

[mellow estuary]

excadrill and rarely used dont go together in the same sentence ngl

[violet pawn]

so has he confirmed it doesn't take a slot or has he just said that it was a staff pick?

[meager python]

Its most useful as a rocks setter because it bypasses magic bounce

[sharp nebula]

.

[meager python]

Ok I dont mean like RU rarely used, I mean the set was sparsely used

[mellow estuary]

he was used as a revenge killer too, you didnt gte an excadrill without EQ

[violet pawn]

alright thanks

[meager python]

While yes he was an offensive beast, that was rarely its primary role.

[mellow estuary]

Ppl used sweeper sets just as much, but there were things like Landorus T to fill that while he did that other role. Either way hes boss and deserves to be in IF not just for competitive viability

[meager python]

Exactly. We are on the same side arguing over nothing lol

[toxic ibex]

does anybody know when the next announcement is going to be made

[meager python]

Nope, not even the mods know

[toxic ibex]

damn

[sharp nebula]

theyre usually on saturdays, but its not guaranteed

[meager python]

Dont ask the mods about anything with the votes. They know as much as us lol

I have asked this with a different group BUT

Who is the worst option for the vote (excluding Bruxish)

[sharp nebula]

basculin

[meager python]

Thats fair, havent heard this because its so forgettable

[violet pawn]

bruxish is nowhere near the worst, the worst is probably illumise and volbeat

[meager python]

Disagree

[sharp nebula]

theyre at least glowy, basculin has nothing

[meager python]

Its a pokemon designed to be ugly

[toxic ibex]

aromstisse

[meager python]

In a game where most people pick them based on looks

[violet pawn]

I like that it's ugly

[meager python]

Hmmm.

Some people are unhappy with you now

[cinder oasis]

Yeah so true

[marsh lily]

Spritzee + Drifloon = peak (flamigo)

[meager python]

I would argue that poochyena and mightyena are bad

[cinder oasis]

I hate aromatisse as well, though it's still better than Luvdisc and Volbeat

[toxic ibex]

i just thinks its forgettable, florges is the better pure fairy gen 6 mon anyways

[terse fable]

Not really sure worst pick for me, I'm kind of cool with whoever, there's just mons I really want more

[hexed agate]

[marsh lily]

WERE they designed to look hideous?

[hexed agate]

drifloon is amazing though

[meager python]

I forget about both florges and aromatisse.

Sylveon is the best gen 6 pure fairy

[marsh lily]

PEAK.

[terse fable]

I wanted Drampa for old man mons

[toxic ibex]

eh ive never been crazy about sylveon

[meager python]

But its better then the alternatives

[marsh lily]

Same, but it's not the whole fairy aspect. I simply don't like it.

[toxic ibex]

i like jolteon vaporeon and umbreon more

[oak girder]

oh God...that would be perfect and I already hate it

[meager python]

It feels so cursed to like vaporeon nowadays

[marsh lily]

It's like a dolphin. A menace that acts cute.

[meager python]

Dolphins deserve to be extinct

[marsh lily]

Now with constriction.

[toxic ibex]

yeah i get that but i like its design, its very simple

[marsh lily]

Except porpoises and river dolphins, those stay.

[meager python]

Agreed… just every other dolphin is horrible creatures.
“Humans of the sea”

[sand mica]

I don't get why Skuntank and Grumpig aren't already in. They have much better designs than most of the user voted Pokemon.

[toxic ibex]

if we're being honest i think skuntank deserves a spot more than grumpig

[iron quartz]

(Still counts)

[terse fable]

Your IF starting pack memes are gold, keep up the good work

[last pecan]

now add the Anti-Goomy Squad

[toxic ibex]

i just think that dark/poison is a better type combo than pure psychic

[last pecan]

[iron quartz]

Honestly
milian1 was the reason i made these starters pack
:>

[pale flame]

Regirock!!!!!

[marsh lily]

Very good comparison.

That is why I'm not a fan of Palafin. Should've been a split evolution.

[azure beacon]

I honestly dont even understand why palafin is an evolution to begin with. it evolves from a small dolphin into...the same small dolphin

[white meadow]

so based on what we've been told and the pinned comment, we have 12 voted new pokemon out of 20, and then 7 bonus picks that don't count towards the voted pokemon

[azure beacon]

like, what comes next? diglett evolves into its new form. its still diglett, but it looks slightly more angry

[terse fable]

I was talking to someone after the Sharpedo line was announced that you'd add Mr.Mime/Sharpedo as one for sure lol, too bad they jipped us on that, would've been such a good edition to the meme

[white meadow]

From what I've heard, 20 pokemon were gonna get added, and we know 12 of them (Carvanha, Sharpedo, Snorunt, Glalie, Froslass, Tyrunt, Tyrantrum, Goomy, Sliggoo, Goodra, Phantump, Trevenant), and then there are 7 bonus pokemon, which are Sableye, Venipede, Whirlipede, Scolipede, Trubbish, Garbodor, Oricorio, all of these pokemon names taken from the pinned comment

[azure beacon]

I cant remember, does oricorio count as one mon or four, because of the variants

[iron quartz]

...I forget to do shit.

[terse fable]

Relatable and based

[frank oxide]

🍞 <--- full of gluten

[frank oxide]

need dhelmise in there

[frank oxide]

check pinned

[azure beacon]

alrighty. good to know. not that it really mattered with oricorio, since its a separate addition

[white meadow]

So a picture of you?

[restive arrow]

Sharpedo being added is pretty pog

[white meadow]

Well these get added in the first "we add mons" update

[glossy goblet]

Are there more of thesee?

[terse fable]

Check #general someone repasted the normal starter pack meme in their lol

[clever atlas]

You know who else deserves to be added?

[terse fable]

At this point I wholeheartedly believe in a 2nd poll, so fuck it GIVE THEM THE DOG AND LOBSTERINO

[violet pawn]

secret message😲

[white meadow]

Holy shit😂

Double sandygast has a joke sprite of sandy rideingh a ghast

[glossy goblet]

Please

[simple mango]

But piplup is already in the game

[glossy goblet]

I mean Meloetta

[opaque ether]

Would love to see a second poll down the road. Granted I'm still hoping my favorites make it in this round, but a second round for some other underappreciated picks would be nice to see.

[plush bough]

Which were all the staff pics and which the voted? 🤔 the scolipede line was staff pick and oricirio, which was also?

[rough hound]

random radiant thought.

part of me wonders, if you managed to create working code and sprites for a mon not already in IF, would they put it in just because it already exists?

[rough hound]

check pins

[white meadow]

Good question

[rough hound]

i cant code, so i have no way to test this theory. but if someone can itd be funny to just go up to hypnotoad and say "hey, i did all the work. can you add them now?"

[kindred knot]

Now we just need someone to make this for sharpedo

[white meadow]

But whats the head?

[fleet bramble]

I swear I saw a Rotom/Sharpedo that looked like that

[kindred knot]

Necrozma…

[white meadow]

Someone made it

[white meadow]

Good idea ngl

[fleet bramble]

It's Torpedo ted actually but very close

[white meadow]

Or well that the torpedo version not the rocket

[rough hound]

its more of a porygon head imo

[kindred knot]

I can see that

[plush bough]

Aren't then 8 still missing? 🤔Vote Picks:
1Carvanha,
2Sharpedo,
3Snorunt,
4Glalie,
5Froslass,
6Tyrunt,
7Tyrantrum,
8Goomy,
9Sliggoo,
10Goodra,
11Phantump,
12Trevenant

Would be 8 missing 🤔 last time I asked someone said 7 🤔

[fleet bramble]

We didn't know Sableye was a staff pick before

[plush bough]

Ah okay

[white meadow]

P2+Sharpedo could be a bullet bill

[rough hound]

i still hold onto hope, 8 missing means theres still enough slots for every member of my alliance

[plush bough]

Also Salandit/Salazzle 🙈 I hope so bad for it...

[fleet bramble]

I was mostly advocating for the snorunt, phantump, and goomy lines but uhh yeah
I guess I'll just be with whoever comes next, though Meloetta, Sandyghast, and Sewaddle would be cool

[rough hound]

My beloveds

[slate gazelle]

[white meadow]

The 8 remainingh I hope get in are
Noibat
Noivern
Whimpod
Golisopod
Amaura
Aurous
Necrozma
And Cresselia ig
Sadly no space for goat in the first load

[white meadow]

They are fantastic material

[slate gazelle]

as long as Spheal gets in I’m happy
I do hope for Aurorus, Toxicroak, Zebstrika, Meloetta, Lycanroc, and Florges though

[white meadow]

Y Florges tho?

[slate gazelle]

my problem is I have too many favorite Pokémon

[rough hound]

besides my big 3, i definitely like lurantis, noivern, and melo

[white meadow]

Same

[slate gazelle]

beautiful flower/garden fusions

[white meadow]

I can live with the answer

[rough hound]

eh, you get the same with shaymin for only 1 slot

[slate gazelle]

true
and Shaymin is such a little guy

andjaisjakwk
can every Pokémon but Amoongus and Skuntank get in please /j

[rough hound]

ok, we've all said our top picks. but what are the mons youd be actively upset to see on the IF roster (besides the obvious)

[white meadow]

Well Frogman said we basically have no Pokemon limit anymore

[white meadow]

Marshadow

[rough hound]

for me, its dhelmise

[slate gazelle]

besides the two I’ve already mentioned, probably nothing
There are no bad pokemon

[white meadow]

Dhelmise atleast has cool head fusions tho

[rough hound]

take a look at the dhelmise fusions that currently exist. 90 percent are fused with steel or grass types. theyre not as versatile as you think, many pokemon wouldnt work with a dhelmise head

[sinful sky]

Outside of the monkeys, maybe Meloetta?

[white meadow]

I mean I have quiet some ideas for non grass/steel mons

[rough hound]

why?

[fleet bramble]

That would honestly be really cool

[rough hound]

thats fair, but dhelmise basically has 2 things going for it. rust, and seaweed. on any non-steel type, rust isnt an option. its options are honestly a lot more limited than they seem

[sinful sky]

I wouldn't be "actively upset", but I would prefer not to have it because I feel like it's just gonna be people making waifus and references

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-i-saw-that-spooky-spookys-house-of-jumpscares-spookys-jumpscare-mansion-gif-26485220

[white meadow]

Well when Dhelmise is the head you use his attributes so all are seaweed and rusted steel

[white meadow]

What did he write first

[rough hound]

i just like music =P

[rough hound]

eh, its difficult to integrate on a lot of mons

[fleet bramble]

Obviously monkeys, and pokemon with really busy, specific designs like Bruxish and Volcanion that wouldn't lend to many creative fusions / @white meadow I wrote cood instead of cool by accident

[sinful sky]

I do too, which is why I like Meloetta as a Pokemon - but as a Porygon fan, I don't wish that on other Pokemon lol

[white meadow]

Btw I even tried to do a Marshadow but I hate it it has nothing

[sullen elbow]

|||coom||| instead of cool. autocorrect moment

[white meadow]

Oh

[fleet bramble]

No autocorrect goes crazy

[sullen elbow]

did it spoiler it? how tf do you spoiler

[rough hound]

fair, though i did say "besides the obvious". i shoulda specified that that meant monkeys, fireflies, and bruxish

[hard kiln]

SHARPEDO MADE IT!

[fleet bramble]

I would honestly be fine with Illumise...

[white meadow]

That electric man in a cat costume is something i wouldnt want too

[hard kiln]

YES!
ALSO GOODRA!
WOOOOH!

[rough hound]

yep! youre a bit late tho lol /lh

[fleet bramble]

And volbeat too, although he's a bit goofy

[hard kiln]

I poofed for a bit to let the excitement build up. it's pure hype time now.

[rough hound]

i would punt illumise and volbeat across a field without a second thought

[fleet bramble]

PREACH
Zeroara is so ugly; just fuse Luxray and Lucario at that point

[rough hound]

i like zeraora, but in the case of IF there really isnt anything it can offer that lucario doesnt already give

[white meadow]

Electric super saiyan cat fusions 🤯

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/luxray-pokémon-luxray-thunder-fang-pokémon-thunder-fang-luxray-uses-thunder-fang-gif-26098582

Yeah true, even the color pallet is similar

That's why we should vote for golisopod 🗣️🗣️

Ngl gen 7 mythicals were garbage to a big part

[white meadow]

They're forgetable

[fleet bramble]

I like Magearna and Marsh
Not really good picks for IF though; Magearna is covered by klinklang and marshadow body fusions sound dreadful

[white meadow]

Goes hard

[rough hound]

How about we vote a more memorable pokemon then =)

[glossy goblet]

has anyone made sprites for meloetta in the mean time?

or diancie?

[white meadow]

Croagunk is cool ngl

[white meadow]

British frog is cool too

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-croagunk-king-throne-gif-16367260035413576996

[white meadow]

Yeah search meloetta in #1050404143807873157

[glossy goblet]

thank you

[rough hound]

https://tenor.com/view/トリトドン-gastrodon-gif-26222567

honestly, the gastrodon lovers have made a ton of sprites

[white meadow]

#1153737927382282311 if someone cares to see some Voteable mons here

[glass prairie]

Anyone know how many new Pokemon slots are left excluding developer choices?

[rough hound]

8

[autumn radish]

I wonder if two of them are Fomantis and Lurantis.

It would be cool to have a good mon for the Contrary ability, outside of Shuckle.

[gentle ferry]

tbh after the bonus fishing slot went to a non-water mon I think my only hope for Gastrodon is dev pick or bonus contest pick

[white meadow]

or he gets in when they add new mons another time
Frogman said that there is basically no limits anymore

[tame nebula]

Where was this said

I need to see this with my eyes

[hard kiln]

only 8? that's enough room for

Golosipod
Toxicroak
Meloetta
Gastradon
other stuff

[hushed mantle]

Actually they’re 7

[hard kiln]

7? That's enough for:

Golosipod
Toxicroak
Meloetta
Gastradon

i am, if anything, inconsistent and indecisive.

[tame nebula]

No its 8, cause Sableye is a pick that doesn't count to the 20 actually

[hushed mantle]

True

[white meadow]

oh so sableye is a bonus pick huh

[nimble tiger]

I have a question. I'm new to infinite fusions but me and my friend are wondering is there a way to battle eachothe rin this game?

[gentle ferry]

I think it's bonus but still counts

[sharp nebula]

no it doesnt, its an extra

[leaden fog]

when do all the new pokemon get added

[sharp nebula]

when theyre ready

[short garden]

give a leppa berry to an unaware slowbro

give it block, recycle, slack off, and heal pulse

sweep all gyms with a team of 6 of them

repeat for every hex code digit of every pixel on the slowbro sprite

maybe by then this game will have multiplayer

or maybe it already does idk

[tame flax]

So uhh... question

<@&306953740651462656> why is this channel still in slow mode? It's not as high traffic as it was when it was turned on

[eager jungle]

[mint grotto]

maybe they just dont feel like turning it off

[tame flax]

Eh, fair enough

[winged bear]

mods extend their lifespan by feeding off the minor inconvenience of normal members

[silent acorn]

Ah makes sense

[tame flax]

https://tenor.com/view/explains-everything-explanation-gif-8882399

[prime dust]

can confirm as a volunteer mod in a different discord server

[winged bear]

also it's just that convos here can get heated for some reason and slowmode helps prevent that

[white meadow]

nah this chat is totally so civil™️, especially shortly after a mon gets revealed and everyone is completely ok with it!

[native nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/seedot-gif-25300951

[warm glen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/818611423256117261/1132386440127463484/awesome.gif

[clever atlas]

Good night!

[plush pilot]

You're welcome

[placid pelican]

i didnt put it i dont touch it

easy

[lusty oxide]

Still Hoping for audino

[silent acorn]

Oof I am back after getting shadorealmed by a hungry mod

[lusty oxide]

What happened?

[grave jolt]

Morning all, how's the Pachirisu advocacy going today?

[hollow sable]

Swablu

[lusty oxide]

Im good you?

I like pachurisu it’s cute

And it’s squirrel

Being a squirrel is a massive W

[grave jolt]

I'm alright. Been looking through the search function for litten for sprite inspiration since I'm gonna use it to replace the houndoom line, but all I found was every single person who wants litten wants them alone lmao

[grave jolt]

Yee, squirrels are cool!

[frank oxide]

🍞 <--- full of gluten

[sand torrent]

bread

[grave jolt]

<--- full of gluten

[lusty oxide]

Full of gluten

[sand torrent]

nex type of pokemon glutn

[white meadow]

it is isnt it

[frank oxide]

gluten tag

[lusty oxide]

Of gluten

G L U T E N

[frank oxide]

are you bready for what's abotu to come

[lusty oxide]

I’m bready for anything

[frank oxide]

the delivery we had was too big,had to throw some away

[ebon glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/disappear-gone-sorry-awkward-simpsons-gif-20981223

[sand torrent]

eat bread

[echo oyster]

Y’all talking about gluten free while I’m munching on a pizza. Lol

[frank oxide]

🍞<--- full of gluten

[ebon glacier]

take the opportunity and put some pineapple on top

[echo oyster]

I would, but I’m at a mall….

Real talk the pineapple on pizza hate is overrated. I kind of want to try it for myself

[ebon glacier]

right?!!! it's so good

[echo oyster]

Yeah, sweet and savory is great when done right

Like sesame chicken 🤤

[ebon glacier]

true

[woeful root]

Why hate goodra, it's just a goofy ball of fun 😢

[grave jolt]

Goodra best Pseudo 🙂

[sharp nebula]

dragapult best pseudo but goodra is good too

[ebon glacier]

hydreigon on top

[woeful root]

Hydreigon is cool, but I prefer cute Pokemon

[lusty oxide]

Same

[grave jolt]

Dragapult is a solid #2

[buoyant sluice]

Why did you take goodra, it's just a mucus pokemon 😭 There is no good fusions with him

[woeful root]

I have seen plenty of good goodra fusions, besides it's a community vote, as in it was one of the winners

[terse fable]

You've committed a crime, be dipped in slime

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/solosis-1870-hey-its-greg-gif-20634498
the slime:

[sullen elbow]

Dipplin moment

[vapid tundra]

Magcargo/Goodra is Lit, my dude

[woeful root]

Yeah, same for goodra/scolipede

[sharp nebula]

choose one, starly, pachirisu or munchlax

[vapid tundra]

Munchlax

he can eat the other two and smuggle them in

[sharp nebula]

starly it is 👍

[vapid tundra]

kinda want to see Goodra Aegislash

the Knight in Gooey Armor

[topaz kernel]

is the vote over

[sharp nebula]

yes

[topaz kernel]

fucking monkeys

what got in at the end

[sharp nebula]

what?

[topaz kernel]

what won the vote

what pokemon got in from the vote

[sharp nebula]

me when #announcements

me when pins

[woeful root]

Not everything has been announced yet, they are slowly revealing the winners

[onyx garden]

Out of the loop, are all of the new Pokemon chosen and if so is there a list somewhere?

[terse fable]

Check the pins

[onyx garden]

thank you!

so since it's 19, with many of those being "bonuses", does that mean we'll get more in the future to get the 20 total?

[terse fable]

There's 8 slots left, so yes

[stone cliff]

Hey guys where do I vote

[sullen elbow]

Hey guys is there a list of the Pokémon that were selected? /j

[proper schooner]

Swoobat and that's it

[sullen elbow]

The 20 slots are swoobats of each type plus woobat

[stone cliff]

Woobat with Arceus ability

[honest tartan]

yes but replace swoobat with luvdisk and you may be right

[stone cliff]

It's actually 20 different instances of Cosmoem

[grave jolt]

it's just Bruxish

[white meadow]

are shiny odds increased?

[stone cliff]

Infinite Madden 2024

[grave jolt]

no

[sullen elbow]

Swoobat with the 19th tera type thing

[white meadow]

thanks cause i just started and found a shiny rattata

[drowsy drift]

about to enter generational debt spending on Infinite Fusion Ultimate Team

[sharp nebula]

future questions go in #gameplay-help
also based

[woeful nebula]

i hope they dont just make goodra a pure dragon type

[hushed mantle]

Goodra is a pure dragon type

[woeful nebula]

i know but i hope they change it

[hushed mantle]

They won’t, but you can when you fuse it

[woeful nebula]

aww

[sullen elbow]

This is a fusion game not radical red

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/binacle-barbaracle-pokemon-anime-gif-1843617017963443781

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachui-kiss-gif-26876502

[sullen elbow]

Don't "no" me he is just saying hi he knows he won't get in

[stone cliff]

That gif makes me hate Barbaracle a little less

[glossy osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/charjabug-pokemon-guzzlord-gif-8679014

[lusty oxide]

He looks so saddened by you dropping the pokebean

[sharp nebula]

i have never seen guzzlord close its mouth

[white meadow]

I have never seen a sad guzzlord

[glossy osprey]

he's doing the shuffle with rizz and lightskin stare

[stone cliff]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmmmmmmmmAAAAAAAAAAAAA**

[tidal fulcrum]

you made the eldritch monstrosity with an eating disorder sad, how could you

[terse fable]

Guzzlord is peakmon

[stone cliff]

What would you fuse with Guzzlord to make Kirby 🤔

Ditto?

[lusty oxide]

Jigglypuff

[stone cliff]

Truu

Ability-wise ditto fits too

[drowsy drift]

and thank arceus for that, amen 🙏

[lusty oxide]

Imagine if IF was as hard as radical red

[brisk vessel]

New Radical difficulty

[prime dust]

i don't want the ugly barnacle

[exotic jewel]

He was so ugly that everyone died. The end.

[drowsy drift]

"hard"

[proper schooner]

Barbaracle the goat

[drowsy drift]

a new difficulty mode for IF would be perfect though. just not RR's way

[agile olive]

may I introduce you to #1144756897732378715

[drowsy drift]

yep, I can't way till it's done

[crude garden]

Expert mode full randomizer nuzlocke

[hushed mantle]

Itemless+ no pokecenter

[alpine rune]

PokemonChallenges be like:

[glossy osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP3DqYDVU_A

[terse fable]

Don't forget the blindfold, no sound and monitor off

[earnest mortar]

next mon in should be Rockruff or Kommo-o

[silent acorn]

Rockruff full steam please