pif-hoenn-discussion

[ornate lantern]

I'm sitting on my phone playing Baldurs gate 1 and here you are making me laugh at something I don't even know!

[sharp sphinx]

still need somebody to make sylveon/yveltal to show off the potential or fusion with stuff that subverts it ie frilly pink death god

[brisk vessel]

Edgy cat

[slate gazelle]

Yveltal/Yveltal should be a cocoon to reference how it can turn into a cocoon and kill everything
Xerneas/Xerneas should be a tree to reference how it can turn into a tree and chill

just ideas

[sharp sphinx]

that's yveltal sylveon

which is bacon strip cat

[lethal roost]

ah of course, the egg

[sturdy breach]

mornin

[brisk vessel]

The world end egg

[sharp sphinx]

https://rare-gallery.com/thumbnail/417729-Asteroid-artist-Pokmon-anime-Xerneas.jpg

[slate gazelle]

I misclicked and super reacted but honestly worth it

[lethal roost]

i think this is my second super react ever and its egg

[brisk vessel]

I have a hundred egg emotes but I can't use any of them cuz no nitro

[sharp sphinx]

I have free nitro trial atm

[lethal roost]

exeggcute/yveltal is legally required to at least have an alt like this

[ornate lantern]

That's egg-ceptionally sad...

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/shiny-yveltal-gif-5801824

[warm glen]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-super-mario-world-meme-yoshi-gif-25990303

[slate gazelle]

Anyways Yveltal cocoon might not work but if Xern/Xern isn’t a tree I will figure out how to sprite myself and make it as an alt
It will look terrible but I will try

Or I could just yoink it from Torterra

[ornate lantern]

Don't eat Yoshi 🥺

throw him to his death on an easy jump you could make without sacrificing him C:

[lethal roost]

im having trouble finding an image of the tree that doesn't seem to be Xerneas midway through becoming Not A Tree

nvm

[lethal roost]

yeah so the top of the tree is kinda Xerneas horns shaped but branchy

[slate gazelle]

Should I put myself through pain and make a tier list

[lethal roost]

sure

[sturdy breach]

I once again will ask you to consider this

[sharp sphinx]

isn't everything in so far stuff you wanted

well besdies scoli staff

[sturdy breach]

Yeah, except for Sableye (was already confirmed when I made it)

[ornate lantern]

I will also once again ask for you to please vote for Fluffy cloud bird, Literal little green hedge hedgehog, solid magma monster, Toxic Frog, cute singer girl and Nuke Shark C:

[lethal roost]

i am either
-a god with 1000% correct opinions 50% of the time
-someone who just happens to like all of the pokemon that have gotten in so far

im going with the first option there btw

[high haven]

I see Seviper is on that portion of the list

[sturdy breach]

There's still a shortage of goo dragon on the tierlist

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-zygard-terminal-montage-gif-21325688

[ornate lantern]

We got goo already lol

[lethal roost]

Goodra's in the tier right below "really solid pick" i still like it but not as much as some of the stuff i want upways

[warm glen]

Good to see Pumpkaboo there

[sturdy breach]

No we got sludge, it's different

[ornate lantern]

Stupid question, difference between goo and sludge xD

[lethal roost]

yeah if i don't get my tree I at least want my gourd

[high haven]

Sorry I just busted out laughing after I learned where Slurpuff is placed

[brisk vessel]

I still dont know what to make first

[alpine rune]

I hate Pyroar with a burning passion because of what happened in this server

[lethal roost]

i assume it's the difference between Muk's poisonous pollution sludge and Goodra's nice friend slime

[lethal roost]

oh damn 😔 if thats the case i wont stop you

[high haven]

What the hell happened with Pyroar?

[sturdy breach]

Muk has no real shape, Goodra does

[lethal roost]

How else am I going to get my sweets fix??? Vanilluxe??? (i'd want that too if Vanillish didn't exist)

[brisk vessel]

Guys pls i need help deciding 🥹

[warm glen]

I say Plantera even if I made one because mine is using two Pokémon in the votes, while your fusion just needs Meloetta.

[sturdy breach]

My vote goes to Roserade

[ornate lantern]

That makes since and I ask this not stupidly...is Ditto goo too?

[warm glen]

More likely chance to get in

[brisk vessel]

Ok guess I'll make plantera first

[sturdy breach]

Ditto is also pretty formless

[alpine rune]

Roserade since you've already familiar with plantera

[lethal roost]

Ditto's like jelly i feel

buuuut there was that espeon/goodra line fusion where i joked that it looked like strawberry jelly

[sturdy breach]

Muk and Ditto are Amorphous, Goodra line is not 🙂

[ornate lantern]

Ditto has hands though C: but I get it lol both not Waifu slime! xD Joking joking

[brisk vessel]

I'll make the bad apple darkrai one after since its pretty easy

[lethal roost]

nah that's reuniclus

[alpine rune]

Certain person that used to be active in this server won't stop asking the lions question

[brisk vessel]

1 billion pyroars

[lethal roost]

damn, even id go insane

[sturdy breach]

I think both Ditto and Muk can shape themselves a bit, but are formless in general

[high haven]

Okay, how did it get bad?

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-my-head-gif-24390027

[brisk vessel]

Wolfy already made an objective analysis that Pokemon could beat 1 billion lions

[alpine rune]

Mentally draining kind of bad

[lethal roost]

Ditto shapes itself but only when it's transforming ig

regardless i think Goodra's the only slime mon off the top of my head that isn't 90-100% slime

[ornate lantern]

I understand completely

[high haven]

Ah, I see now. That's fair to why you'd hate it now.

[lethal roost]

yeah if you hate pyroar that's just how it be, it's like me and politoed ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[alpine rune]

They won't listen to that argument because "that's not how pokemon battles work" then proceeds to give warp time and space so that the lions win and I'm so fed up about it that whenever people fell for that bait every single day, I went to semi hiatus

[brisk vessel]

But that is how pokemon battles work that's literally what the video explains

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[lethal roost]

the action economy in that battle though
(im not saying anything about the outcome im just a terrified D&D player)

[alpine rune]

Yea it's obvious impossible to argue with the guy, end of story

[brisk vessel]

Did they leave already

[alpine rune]

Idk lmao

[high haven]

What made him stop?

[alpine rune]

Nope still here

[alpine rune]

The mod is also fed up with them

[high haven]

O, alright

[lethal roost]

yeah so after double checking Goodra is the only slime mon that's not 100% slimy

(the others were Muk and Ditto which are formlessish and Reuniclus which is a gummy bear)

[ornate lantern]

That would easily stop me js

[brisk vessel]

I should probably start my meloplant concept

[lethal roost]

so youd use goodra if you only want a little slime, as a treat, i suppose

[raw bison]

Goodra is ideal for if you want a mon that is slime-y but not made of slime

[sturdy breach]

And if you want a friend shape for a body 🙂

[raw bison]

and lets not forget our lord and savior goomy

[sturdy breach]

And while I do admit that the lower body for Dragonite and Goodra are very similar apart from the tail, the upper body is totally different

[raw bison]

fuse goomy and swablu and create the ultimate hat mon

[slate gazelle]

Mudsdale keeps trying to invade the “already in the game” category
Mudsdale I hate to say it you aren’t in the game yet

[high haven]

i have not seen any discussion of mudsdale up until now

[slate gazelle]

Could be interesting

[lethal roost]

yeah its only goodra's torso that's even vaguely dragonite and it's still different in like... texture

dragonite has belly plates there while goodra is smooth

[raw bison]

only thing they have in common is they got da booty

[slate gazelle]

I couldn’t imagine a world where I put Bruxish over Victini but here I am

[lethal roost]

Mudsdale is a pokemon I'd like if we had more slots I think

there are some things it could do but I think I have it at 1 because they're not really things I need

[high haven]

I hate to admit it, but Bruxish just adds more to the game than Victini

[lethal roost]

in other words its pretty much exactly where it belongs: "lamenting technical limitations tier"

[ornate lantern]

I wondered why victini wasn't being mentioned

[lethal roost]

of the Mythicals I'd say Victini's probably near the bottom of the barrel?

like not actually there, of course, that's Volcanion's spot. but it just has trouble standing out

[sturdy breach]

I think Magearna is less liked

[high haven]

Yeah, yeah.

[raw bison]

eh I'm not a fan of any of the baby shaped mythicals but victini's headpiece and buttwings put him at the top of that subcategory
not top of all mythicals, but the "lil guy" shaped ones

[ornate lantern]

Dragonite a cool pokemon but another bummer Evo end :/ Lapras fits more cleanly in my mind lol

[lethal roost]

Magearna is just diancie but gears in terms of shape

we have gears

every day I'm still confused as to why we have the gears but we do and that makes Magearna slightly worse of a pick sadly

[high haven]

They go Klink, Klang & Klinklang

[sturdy breach]

The evo line doesn't make sense indeed. Even the anime called it out in Journeys. Where Goh thought Dragonair evolved into Milotic I think

[lethal roost]

the only mythical I'm seriously rooting for is Meloetta, but I'd also accept Zeraora, Hoopa or Shaymin

[sturdy breach]

Dragonite is my 3rd favourite pseudo though

[raw bison]

I don't mind evos being dramatically different but I do really love dragonairs aesthetic and hope someday we get a regional variant that leans on it

[slate gazelle]

Meloetta is amazing and could result in beautiful fusions

[ornate lantern]

What if it was supposed to be Lapras but a program bug happened and by the time anyone realized it was to late?

[lethal roost]

nope

[high haven]

If they ever did a regional variant of Dratini & Dragonair, I hope they give it a regional evolution akin to Clodsire

[sturdy breach]

Lapras only works in colour, shape wise they don't either

[raw bison]

there's theories that what was intended was magikarp to dragonite and dragonair to gyarados because of design elements between the two but there's no backing beyond the visual similarities

[lethal roost]

there really isnt lol

[ornate lantern]

Just a thought, also look at flygon lol and Milotic does work a little better

[sterile verge]

That would make it so you'd be given a dragonite in Gen 1 for saving silph co

[sturdy breach]

But Gyarados really doesn't fit after Dragonair as well 🙂

[raw bison]

yeah it's mostly blue snake with fins on face so it's not a well supported theory. The dragonite orange with whiskers on head is a little bit stronger but it's still very much people grasping at straws and drawing connections where they want to see them

[lethal roost]

Gyarados was made long before Dragonite fwiw, then Dragonite's prevos, then Magikarp even further after that

source: internal ID list

[high haven]

Interesting

[wintry imp]

Minior + Machamp = Infinity Thing

[lethal roost]

also Magikarp and Gyarados have the same whiskers as well

[ornate lantern]

Huh neat 🤘

[high haven]

And lips

[lethal roost]

yeah 👍

[slate gazelle]

Making this tier list has made me realize I am attached to a strange set of Pokémon (still a wip)

[lethal roost]

shiftry enjoyer 👍

[high haven]

Anyway, I made an edited tier list after Froslass was added

[raw bison]

I mean the internal id only tells you when they were put in the game, there could be any number of discussions or ideas on the floor of the design team's room - but the most I'd grant is maybe an artist got the "color this one orange and that one blue" mixed up

[ornate lantern]

Also sorry to go off topic for a second but wtf did this Character do lol that's 100% a mugshot xD

[lethal roost]

nah, there's a pattern to when the mons were made

[sturdy breach]

Then again, Dragonite is Dragonair's blue would not work. And dragonair doesn't seem like it would work with the orange

[lethal roost]

though this list is really old and a couple of the MISSINGNOs got identified

for instance those two blurry ass slots next to Goldeen and Seaking are the round tiger mfs

[raw bison]

I'm not arguing that it actually happened by any means - but I do want to point out that I'm saying there might have been a dissonance between the design of the mons and their implementation especially considering this was the dawn of the game and they had no established patterns to follow

[ornate lantern]

Growlithe and Arcanine?

[lethal roost]

no this mf

[high haven]

What about the ones between Magikarp & Muk?

[ornate lantern]

Wtf I have I not seen this! That's adorable

[lethal roost]

the thing with gyarados/magikarp is that if you look at one and then the other you realize they have practically everything but shape and color in common and it seems like magikarp was very intentional

[lethal roost]

id have to go find it again i genuinely dont rember 💀

[high haven]

Alright

[slate gazelle]

Holy Shinx this site is amazing
I refreshed by mistake and my progress was saved

[raw bison]

yeah it's not a very strong theory - there's little if any evidence and no way to prove it true or wrong because it's literally "some guys originally thought..." which is peak pointless theorizing

[ornate lantern]

Even the fact he's a useless piece of shit till Gyrados lol

[lethal roost]

that is extremely peak pointless theorizing tbf

[high haven]

Anyways imma head out, it's getting late here. Good night everyone.
https://tenor.com/view/seviper-sleeping-sleep-tired-sleepy-gif-15437451846134610766

[lethal roost]

yeah im still looking through and i dont think they have 134-135 yet hmm

[raw bison]

yeah wasn't trying to argue the theory just point out that it's one I've seen before and it could be true in the same way there could be invisible fairies stealing my socks. I'd never know!

[lethal roost]

oh 134 has a backsprite but it's... very disputable and probably just another backsprite that got copied over somewhere weird

[ornate lantern]

Or there could be underpants gnomes

[raw bison]

exactly - you can't prove there aren't

[sturdy breach]

Are people actually losing socks? O.O

[ornate lantern]

Yes I am and I can do nothing about it sadly

[sturdy breach]

How does one lose socks

[raw bison]

but yknow that's the burden of proof being on the one making the claim, and the evidence of me having extraplanar accessory thieves is only slighlty weaker than the supporting evidence for dragonite/gyarados being swapped designs

--And you take them off to get comfy, and then they get lost in the midst of the comfiness. Or the dryer eats them.

[ornate lantern]

Idfk, but I'm always one sock short lol

[slate gazelle]

I am the 55% that got hit by confuse ray
My opinions are strange

[sturdy breach]

Might be because I don't use a dryer then I guess, I just have a drying rack 🙂

[raw bison]

they're small and you may take them off at various locations, when you sit down, when you go to bed, as soon as you take your shoes off - depends on the person

[lethal roost]

i mean of silly things found in the Gen 1 Beta: the rumors of Wartortle being something entirely different from the rest of Squirtle line actually were kinda true, but more in the sense that Blastoise was the odd one out

[raw bison]

I want more of those darn fluffy ears they gave dragonair and wartortle, bring that design element BACK BOYS

[slate gazelle]

hariyama just invaded my “already in the game” tier
I don’t even know anymore

[lethal roost]

hariyama is real!!!!

[lethal roost]

so funny thing about that it was squirtle -> wartortle -> something else that had fluffy wave-like ears like wartortle but then that last bit got axed and replaced with the cannon turtle

we don't know its name

[ornate lantern]

Ok this all sounds awesome, wtf happened lol

[lethal roost]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

also for some fucking ungodly reason zubat had a prevo

[ornate lantern]

Honestly Zubat having a pre-evo doesn't sound awful...I just don't know why it would lol

[lethal roost]

think about it: we'd never get crobat

also it was like... literally just wings lol

[ornate lantern]

Eh maybe, maybe not...or maybe it would've been a three Evo instead then

And I figured a PokeBall with wings xD

[lethal roost]

tbf GS would've been the game to establish whether or not pokemon really could be 4-stage and just chose not to for anything

[slate gazelle]

Anyways
Feel free to ask why your mon is in a tier

[lethal roost]

but also GS could've been a good game if they'd ||fixed the encounters so you could actually use new pokemon and stop having a godawful level curve|| added the tiger

[ornate lantern]

4 evos would be awesome one way but it would be a little much I'd say... Because it would just another pokemon and if it's a 4th stage to an already meh line why would I want it lol when that spot could've gone to a cooler pokemon

Adding the tiger would've been sweet T-T

[lethal roost]

tbf one of those spots went to fucking Lickitung at one point, think about it

and then another one went to, for some reason, adding more Lickitung

[raw bison]

three is also a very solid number when marketing to western audiences in particular - it feels complete, where four feels like it's leading on to more

[lethal roost]

yeah

also it just seems like a bit of a pain in the ass to stat out

[ornate lantern]

Exactly lol

[lethal roost]

like what does the tiny ball with wings have as stats when Zubat's stats are so low??

[raw bison]

Digimon makes it work but to be fair part of Digimon's appeal is it's balls to the wall approach to damn near everything so it's not exactly a fair comparison lol

[lethal roost]

(we don't know, we only have its evolution data, not its statline iirc)

[ornate lantern]

And think of they only evolve at level 70+ they would be end game exclusives...holy shit Charizard evolved into Charmelord! Oh I beat the elite 4 already that sucks

[lethal roost]

the Hydreigon enjoyer experience

[brisk vessel]

Idk if i have time to sprite this 🥹

[ornate lantern]

Lol I never played with Hydreigon so i wouldn't know

[sturdy breach]

It does look very good and fun

[ornate lantern]

But that meloetta looks pretty C:

I don't have a thing for women with guitars....

[lethal roost]

other rb beta garbage ig
-that raichu evolution thing was real
-psyduck -> golduck had a midstage and the backsprite looks dumb as hell so im glad its gone
-baby forms of goldeen, vulpix, and ponyta, whose names we actually know because they almost got into GS too

[slate gazelle]

baby Vulpix?

[lethal roost]

hold on gotta go get that baby

[slate gazelle]

I want to see so I can

[sturdy breach]

Baby Vulpix and Ponyta sound adorable. Also I think there's a lot of people that wanted to see Gorochu (I believe that was it's name, or was the name given to it by fans?)

[lethal roost]

tiny bastard

[lethal roost]

gorochu was actually its name apparently

[ornate lantern]

Holy shit that's cute and baby poynyta sounds wicked as well

[sturdy breach]

Kinda makes sense to go from 3 to 6, to 9 tails

[lethal roost]

it's called Mikon (so it is named after the number 3)

[ornate lantern]

Wtf is that name! 😯

[lethal roost]

the horse is debatable tbh

[sturdy breach]

Yeah, Mikon, Rokon, Kyukon

[raw bison]

ponyta but up the baby factor by 3

[ornate lantern]

Not debatable lol that looks amazing and adorable! We need more flaming horse C:

[lethal roost]

i think the ponyta prevo is just mildly weird because it really does feel replaced by ponyta other than not being pale like ponyta is ig

[sturdy breach]

Gorochu comes from the japanese onomatopoeia for rumbling I think (like rumbling sound of thunder)

[lethal roost]

if mods ask this definitely 100% has to do with voting

voting for new spaceworld 97 mon in the game 1 kotorillion votes to the little tiger dude btw

[sturdy breach]

Quick! throw some propaganda in the mix!

[warm glen]

Ah yes, the vines and hooks clinging to the ground. Yet another thing I was considering but dropped cause I thought it wasn't representitve of either Lilligant or Meloetta in my fusion.

[lethal roost]

i've seen Roserade fusions use thorns/vines before

[sturdy breach]

Yeah, it's a rose after all

[lethal roost]

this banger comes to mind

[warm glen]

Perhaps Roserade was the better fit after all, I'm convinced

[ornate lantern]

That is a banger!

[sturdy breach]

But if I were to take a mon to use for Plantera, Carnivine maybe

[lethal roost]

carnivine would work yeah

[warm glen]

I think Vileplume and Mawile can make a good phase 2 Plantera

[lethal roost]

i think the joke is that she's P(l)antera

like its a reference to the reference of plantera being a similar name to pantera and him dropping a guitar because funny

[ornate lantern]

When did Pantera drop a guitar?

[warm glen]

I know that part already, but speculating other Terraria inspired fusions would be interesting

[lethal roost]

true I would like a straight-up Plantera as well

.... Solrock/Golurk is the Golem 🤔

[ornate lantern]

Psyduck and Pikachu= Tweety bird from Looney tunes no?

[warm glen]

Lunatone/Machoke is Moon Lord? A stretch I think this idea could be.

[lethal roost]

you might be able to get Everscream out of Trevenant but I can't think of a mon that would go with it

[lethal roost]

moon lord feels like there has to be a combo somewhere but i cant think of it

[ornate lantern]

Who is moon lord

[sturdy breach]

You will need something like Octillery for a ML reference I think.
Plantera and Moon Lord are bosses in Terraria

[lethal roost]

Terraria's final boss, scary mf

[slate gazelle]

Tangrowth?

[lethal roost]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk

[slate gazelle]

Maybe Duskull

[ornate lantern]

Pinsir and tangrowth?

[lethal roost]

pinsir actually works as the head damn

if you can find a suitable enough body but i do think hes a bit complicated for any single mon

[ornate lantern]

A pokemon everyone forgets lol

[warm glen]

Pinsir/Dusknoir maybe

[lethal roost]

ok yeah that actually

[ornate lantern]

What about Pinsir mimyku?

[lethal roost]

alternatively you could use one of the censored moon lords with none of the bony bits and kinda crystalline body but i think Pinsir/Dusknoir probably works best

[lethal roost]

mimikyu body is always the little doll thing though iirc

[ornate lantern]

True true, I'm just trying to think ghost and/green green lol

[slate gazelle]

Posting some propaganda to keep this #pif-hoenn-discussion

and not just #general-2

[sturdy breach]

Ssssshhhh don't let the mods know 🙂

[ornate lantern]

Vote floofy cloud bird!

[slate gazelle]

Yes, much floof
Worth vote

[lethal roost]

oh yeah no totally theres definitely propaganda here and its not just terraria talk i swear

[warm glen]

Then how about I talk of a Pokemon that's in the votes for these boss fusions. If Eelektross was in the game, Klingklang/Eelektross could be the Destroyer boss

[ornate lantern]

Mods, if you read this please keep this after the voting ends, we don't wanna go back to general lol

[slate gazelle]

Hang on I’m going to make some Altaria propaganda

[lethal roost]

the Mechanical Bosses feel like they'd really benefit from Registeel's existence but I don't want the other Regis

[warm glen]

Oh yeah true

[ornate lantern]

Vote not for pokemon but for this chat to stay!

[sturdy breach]

Especially rock

[ornate lantern]

I feel the Regis while not the best use of spots could benefit some fusions

[slate gazelle]

I feel bad just nabbing art off of Google to make propaganda
I am not a skilled artist though

[raw bison]

Pinsir and Trevanent for that Terarria boss was my immediate thought

[lethal roost]

terraria (mod) boss: im sure theres something with Archeops that could make The Dragonfolly from Calamity Mod

[sturdy breach]

It's what I've been doing tbf

[sturdy breach]

Dragonite is the obvious one right?

[lethal roost]

not the right shape, i think itd have to be like salamence but even thats a bit off

[sturdy breach]

Can also just take another bird

[lethal roost]

actually that one might not need archeops nvm

[slate gazelle]

Linoone /j

[lethal roost]

Zigzagoon time

[ornate lantern]

Pidgey?

Or pigieotto? My spelling sucks lol

[lethal roost]

from a powerscaling perspective Pidgey would be absolutely hilarious to turn into the Dragonfolly lets do it

[slate gazelle]

Archeops as a body could work well for it as you mentioned

[lethal roost]

Archeops body lacks one of the front legs but the tail is there perfectlyish

its just a slightly less limbed Dragonfolly i'd think

[hot grove]

Why is this chat suddenly talking about terraria

[slate gazelle]

Joltik/Galvantula could be an option for the head

[hot grove]

What started this conversation

[lethal roost]

brainstorming terraria reference fusions for new mons and definitely not just talking about terraria

[lethal roost]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[hot grove]

This goes insane

[slate gazelle]

Also it always was just #general-2/#spriter-general-2

[hot grove]

I really hope to see that get sprited one day 👌

[hot grove]

Truly

[ornate lantern]

Vote for this chat to stay people...ok I'm making propaganda for this chat xD

[slate gazelle]

We should have this channel all the time
A #general but with less people asking for game help

[hot grove]

petition to rename this chat to general-lounge

[slate gazelle]

#general-2

[hot grove]

General 2 is just asking for more game talk

[slate gazelle]

brig

[lethal roost]

true

[hot grove]

Table

[slate gazelle]

vote for

[native nebula]

RIP chances for big ice boy.

[ornate lantern]

I'm sorry but this is truly a chill chat full of great (and slightly annoying) people! It's not like me to be in a random chat room with strangers for hours among hours but here the fuck I am lol this chat is awesome and it needs to stay js I've made friends from this chat, Froslass has a story now, and Slurpuff is something a guy spams for no reason lol

[lone dome]

[slate gazelle]

there is a reason I am here at 3 am

[lethal roost]

Slurpuff btw

[ornate lantern]

2:08 am for me lol

[slate gazelle]

hang on
idea
#pif-hoenn-discussion discord server

[sturdy breach]

Like how Froslass is the only pokemon to be heavily hinted at when it comes to human relations? 🙂

[slate gazelle]

Best idea me
I’ll create it
Dm me if you want to join

[lethal roost]

tbf she kills people i wouldnt call it a healthy relationship

[ornate lantern]

Actually great idea lol and just dm me the link when it's ready xD

[ornate lantern]

Yeah lol but for me I now have a reason for Froslass being a favorite besides the fact it's Froslass lol sitting in here talking to everyone as they guessed...it was awesome

[nocturne current]

https://tenor.com/view/altaria-pokemon-swablu-dragon-dance-dragon-gif-23805622

[ornate lantern]

FLUFFY BIRD...ITS SO FLUFFY!!!

[nocturne current]

On god

[native nebula]

WIN for cloud fusions

[ornate lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/its-so-fluffy-gif-5749188

[native nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/swablu-altaria-pokemon-birb-bird-gif-12157582

[ornate lantern]

Despicable Me is the best kids franchise ever prove me otherwise! XD

[native nebula]

Bionicle

If there is no edge in the content then it can not be.

[sturdy breach]

Pokémon? Nah probably not.

[native nebula]

Yeah pokemon does have the edge in it.

balloons that abduct children...

[ornate lantern]

And isn't the sandcastle dead kids too?

[native nebula]

well now we know where the kids went...

[lethal roost]

and gengar just kinda kills you

also the tree stump is dead kids too

[sturdy breach]

Ghost pokemon = Horrifying dex entries so yea

[native nebula]

Well not all are ghost

[sturdy breach]

But just about all ghost entries are terrifying, save a few

[native nebula]

First one is charmander.

Dude will die without the tail flame.

[sturdy breach]

"This Pokémon’s mucous can dissolve anything. Toothless, it sprays mucous on its prey. Once they’re nicely dissolved, it slurps them up."

[ornate lantern]

Wait so htf do we tame Gengar without dying ourselves?

[lethal roost]

well you evolve haunter by giving it to someone else and making it not your problem anymore

[ornate lantern]

Lol 🤣 that's true

[lethal roost]

and then theres just this demon where if its ears ever open it emits a psychic blast and its blank stare hides its constant struggle to control the energies

also hes totally me 🥰

[native nebula]

creepy child

[lethal roost]

vote espurr for uhhh um
i forgot it was in this poll actually

[native nebula]

I see no upsides yet

but I know very little.

[slate gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/meowstic-pokemon-cute-gif-25614970

[lethal roost]

meowstic's gimmick of having two different movepools based on gender doesnt really work but i guess youd get the color schemes???

and uhhhh thats it

[native nebula]

But that would be my favoite part...

I do like the design though

[slate gazelle]

they remind me of me and my friend

[lethal roost]

i mean its HA would be Prankster since I assume the mods would take the male version?

[white meadow]

I like Meowstic but the Potential gets kinda killed cuz of how IF works

[native nebula]

Is there a meowth clone group?

[lethal roost]

hey why did game freak make the women mean???? sexism 😔

[ornate lantern]

I think that's enough Baldurs gate tonight I'll come join in here lol

[white meadow]

I wonder why it dont uses its full potential in fights!

[native nebula]

Women are great with mental things. Despite how they appear to others and themselves at times.

[lethal roost]

look i didnt actually want to propagandize espurr/meowstic even though i do kinda want them? i just think like every other cat mon does this better

[native nebula]

I was just translating for Japan mainly.

[lethal roost]

yeah

also mildly related to votes delcatty used to have this like mark on its head (i think its a full moon) and i just got reminded of it when remembering that skitty also exists

its not even in the artwork either i think its just a holdover from some previous design that didnt get snapped until DP

anyway thats your uhhh singular delcatty fact for the night i have to sleep

[sturdy breach]

Goodra though 🙂

[alpine rune]

IDK what team to represent considering they added froslass into the roster already

I dont particularly like dem goodra

Fuck it

[sturdy breach]

Doesn't matter, they like you 🙂

[alpine rune]

We need this guy into the game, aint no way we have tyrantrum but not the other

[ornate lantern]

Same but I chose Toxicroak and Altaria C:

And sadly we might...that's what happened with Darkrai

[sturdy breach]

I prefer Aurorus over Tyrantrum, having Tyrantrum in is however not a valid reason 🙂

Still want it to get in though, just not for counterpart reasons

[ornate lantern]

Omg Baldurs gate one is hilarious xD I just killed a woman xD

[alpine rune]

My tier list became this:

Forget abomasnow, now the only correct answer is aurorus

[agile olive]

I think it's just a highlight

[alpine rune]

Pretend the abomasnow is aurorus

[sturdy breach]

If there is 1 thing I won't budge on, it's Goodra though 😄

[alpine rune]

my priority list stays true to this graph
tho sallazle and bronzong is interchangable

I need aurorus first, then golisopod, then lurantis. the others are just bonuses

[slate gazelle]

Other than NGS and Dragicroadon, are there any other teams?

[alpine rune]

Meloetta team?

[white meadow]

more like meloetta cult

[alpine rune]

Pretty sure Ice team already satisfied, tho we still want a hail/snow warning user

[sturdy breach]

There's GASP but it kinda got outta hand if ya ask me

[slate gazelle]

I won’t be able to make reaction roles and team chats for every single voteable pokemon

[alpine rune]

There's the rockruff team, but i guess its a one man team

[slate gazelle]

GASP?

[alpine rune]

The only thing that stays consistent with me is the ice type rep

[ornate lantern]

Minun and plusle but that's one one man too t-t

[sturdy breach]

Yeah, there's multple pokemon for every letter (which I can't remember tbf)

[slate gazelle]

Make that 2 :)

[sturdy breach]

Then again, Goomy is also in there under G. Snorunt was under S

[alpine rune]

I will find aurorus myself

[ornate lantern]

My little Aurora...pokemon are magical xD

I killed the inn keeper and all he had was twenty gold u.u how did he only have twenty gold on him when A. He's an inn keeper and B. He sells you stuff!

[ornate lantern]

Ok everyone I'm out, it's late and I'm getting pretty tired night

[slate gazelle]

Night!

[ornate lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anipoke-wooloo-pikachu-comfortable-gif-25045782

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-wtf-what-the-fuck-what-the-hell-what-gif-5922332

[white meadow]

the only image that matters

[alpine rune]

one of this is not like the other

Yea its like youre promoting the dragicroadon team but you mistaken to put the ice type there

[slate gazelle]

Update: discord itself hates Gastrodon propaganda

[white meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1145632972406530129/Untitled153_20230813182929.png

[slate gazelle]

I have broken reality

[white meadow]

🔥

this image fully represents the true effects of propaganda on the votes

[slate gazelle]

Do let me know if you’d like to join though :)
It was supposed to be me promoting different teams but since I’m a member of Dragicroadon that’s all I really have

[slate gazelle]

Actually propaganda has made me vote many Pokémon a 3

[white meadow]

what about the other 30k+ people

[slate gazelle]

True

But it’s fun :3

[white meadow]

ig

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[clever atlas]

Good morning fellas!

[slate gazelle]

Happy 5 am :D

Thought I’d post this here while chat was dead

[white meadow]

Where is Castforms potential?

[slate gazelle]

weather-based fusions

[white meadow]

Okay but many mons add that

[slate gazelle]

I actually don’t know why it’s that high
I think I might’ve put the wrong Pokémon somewhere
I did make this list at 2 am

[clever atlas]

Ooh that's rare, Florges supporter

[white meadow]

Chingling is in the wrong spot

[slate gazelle]

Probably meant to move it up a tier

[white meadow]

I can maybe do one of the attached group

[slate gazelle]

Beautiful flower fusions
Perfection

[clever atlas]

Also Heliolisk
I don't see much any Heliolisk support

[surreal chasm]

Palossand though

People don't realize how much potential it has and it's painful 😔

[sturdy breach]

Goodra tho

[surreal chasm]

Thats the thing though. Everybody knows Goodra is awesome

But Palossand isn't the most popular pokemon out there so people dismiss it and ignore its fusion potential

[sturdy breach]

That I am not convinced of though. But perhaps people in this channel do 🙂

[slate gazelle]

Many other Pokémon have used sand in their fusion designs

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[surreal chasm]

Yeah but palossand is all sand so you can make actual actual sand structures with it.

ANDDDD it also has its body fusions which can be any building you can think of

It's basically two pokemon at once when it comes to fusion design

[slate gazelle]

True, but Stakataka

[tame flax]

Palossand

[surreal chasm]

Stakataka is just a wall, its design isn't as flexible as palossand's

And I'm saying that as someone whose favorite ultra beast is stakataka

[slate gazelle]

What can you do with Sandyghast heads to distinguish it from Palossand?

[surreal chasm]

Sandygast has a really big hole

[tame flax]

If I could make an argument for one ub

If we got poipole we could probably get one really early game given its bst

And because of how it evolves, we could evolve it almost immediately

[slate gazelle]

Palossand also has a hole

[surreal chasm]

Sandygast's hole is way larger

What differentiates Kling head fusions from Klang head fusions come on

[slate gazelle]

True

[surreal chasm]

There's also sand castles already in the game so it would fit into the game perfectly

[slate gazelle]

would bodies just be smaller buildings?

[surreal chasm]

Toy buildings

[white meadow]

But they give - Karma so it would be annoying to farm them

[surreal chasm]

As it should. The Sand Castles would finally be able to take revenge for all the players who kicked them over.

[white meadow]

Lets be real I dont have anything against a special Ground mon

[slate gazelle]

Maybe like a 10% chance for one to attack you after you knock one over

[white meadow]

negative karma is cool anyway

what does positive karma even do

[spring abyss]

Did somebody say ground types? Vote claydol

[slate gazelle]

I think it lets you encounter another pokemon

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[tame flax]

Mew

[sturdy breach]

You need good karma to get Mew, and negative karma to get Darkrai

[white meadow]

just gamble on the black market 👍

[sturdy breach]

So basically: get good karma, get mew, then go ham on w/e 🙂

[clever atlas]

Too costy

[spring abyss]

Mew watching as 10 seconds after catching them i immediately start kicking over sandcastles and telling clowns to quit their jobs

[alpine rune]

that one petilil:
Am I a joke to you?

[surreal chasm]

Of course not! I love Petilil

[buoyant sluice]

[sturdy breach]

A distinct lack of Goodra

[brisk vessel]

A distinct lack of meloetta

[buoyant sluice]

Sorry I don't like Goodra

[white meadow]

A distinct lack of Diancie

[brisk vessel]

I wanna make a diancie fusion eventually but I just can't find an idea

[buoyant sluice]

Diancie would be my 21st choice

[white meadow]

amazing

[brisk vessel]

Explodes

[buoyant sluice]

Yes Meloetta is pretty cool

[alpine rune]

why so many legendaries?

[white meadow]

3 so many

[buoyant sluice]

Only 3

[brisk vessel]

(UBs don't count)

[white meadow]

also didn't you vote tapus

[alpine rune]

I consider ultra beasts as legendaries tho since they are pretty high in bst and only encounter a single of them

[brisk vessel]

I wanna make a Lele joke but I would get muted

[alpine rune]

that goes for mythics as well

[brisk vessel]

Nuh uh (I have 3 nihilegoss in my main pokemon home account)

UBs are like Paradox mons
Not actually legendary but similar in strength

[white meadow]

in this game you can breed them so who cares 👍

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[clever atlas]

Lycanroc

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[crude garden]

Vote anyway or you'll make him sad

[white meadow]

Is this Goomy/Snorunt

[clever atlas]

Snoomy or Goorunt

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/man-running-out-of-restaurant-man-eating-man-eating-and-running-cartoon-eating-cartoon-man-running-gif-24721662

[crude garden]

Yes, goomy head snorunt body, Snomy I think

[white meadow]

In my opinion make the lines of the coat more wobbly

[neat hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/zebstrika-attack-pokemon-im-coming-lets-ride-gif-11676235

Imagine... more horse options, thunder stripes, and a way to make your 2 legged mons four hooved!

[vague heath]

where is the template btw

[white meadow]

of what

[crude garden]

This template? For your top 20?

[vague heath]

Yeah thanks

[patent trellis]

lurantis yes

[crude garden]

Is there a Goomy discord I'm not part of where I can post all my Goomy line sprites

[sturdy breach]

I don't think so, but you can probabl post them in spritework as well

[inland jewel]

Electric/water with sap sipper too fusions we can make

[neat hemlock]

And its cute!

[pale osprey]

remember kids: do not vote on skunktank, thank you.

[hard kiln]

i'm gonna vote skuntank. but not because you told me not to.

calling it:

Next pokemon gen, it's gonna be cause vs effect xD

That or fate. Are things predetermined, or does every situation have multiple routes that can be taken dependent on will, effort, and circumstance? It will be the oracle pokemon and it's counterparts, the causality pokemon and the inevitable pokemon fighting to determine fate.

[sturdy breach]

Or they might just release 3 games at the same time and have starters on the box again for the first time since Gen1 (100% not gonna happen)

[sand mica]

Sorry, but the Skuntank are crawling out of the dens to vote for itself to be in the game.

[crude garden]

Pokemon legends ho-oh or Pokemon legends kyuurem/origin dragon

[wraith gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sharpedo-shark-gif-23844050

https://tenor.com/view/slowpoke-pokemon-water-psychic-gif-7898046

[clever atlas]

Yeah that's the exact reason i downvoted amoonguss
Originally, i had like a 2 or a 3 on amoonguss but a few days later i realised that spriters would go ham on among us jokes so i swiftly changed it
Now it's got a big fat 1

[alpine rune]

what evolution of slowpoke is this?

[clever atlas]

Slowpedo

[wraith gazelle]

slowpedo 🙂

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[pale osprey]

yeah at least the amongus memes are mostly harmless (just boring) fart jokes are straight up gross, i also gave amoonguss a zero but if there was a -1 it would go to fart jokes

[clever atlas]

Boring and annoying

[alpine rune]

I'm too lazy to make new propaganda posters

ima just put this here

[clever atlas]

Oh yeah speaking of propaganda
Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[gusty shuttle]

Guys I unironically dreamt of what's the next Pokémon

[sharp nebula]

i did too

[crude garden]

It's goomy

[alpine rune]

do tell

would be funny if it did

[gusty shuttle]

Exploud line

[alpine rune]

whats yours?

[white meadow]

would sound like a staff pick

[clever atlas]

Okay, yeah i can see that happening

[sharp nebula]

👆

[gusty shuttle]

Remember it and if I'm right you can call me Nostradamus ffs

[alpine rune]

so exploud too?

[sharp nebula]

no

[clever atlas]

Lutradamus

[alpine rune]

Oh meloetta got it

[gusty shuttle]

I was betting for Rockruff line but a dream is a dream, I'm betting on Exploud

[alpine rune]

Going back to finding the sail fossil

[white meadow]

I dreamed I was on a Gogoat ranch

[alpine rune]

i forgot what i dreamt

[clever atlas]

Imagine having dreams
Couldn't be me 💀

[alpine rune]

I didnt dream of pkif, thats for sure

[zenith relic]

Morning gents, here a reminder who you should really vote for

[fervent mortar]

Vote for Goomy

[white meadow]

Vote for Gogoat and Noivern please

[gusty shuttle]

I specifically dreamt the announcement post not even the Pokémon itself, wtf is wrong with me I must detox from this poll

[clever atlas]

And

[sharp nebula]

yeah my dream gave a few hints and led to meloetta

[alpine rune]

lets hope this becomes a reality

[gusty shuttle]

THE THING IS I DON'T EVEN CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT EXPLOUD
It's not like I dreamt of Pidove, which would've killed all my premonition credibility 🤣

[alpine rune]

welp, the chat froze

Good thing the ice types cant freeze

[gentle ferry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1145148377391185980/7x2mis.gif

[meager python]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-minior-pokemon-pokemon-i-only-stand-for-one-flag-minior-nation-gif-23996712

[crude garden]

https://tenor.com/view/goomy-pokemon-ice-cream-gif-24661454

[scenic agate]

I'm glad Ledian is in so I don't have to make propaganda

Anyway how many spots are left desu

[sturdy breach]

14

[white meadow]

14

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/goomby-pokemon-goomy-gif-21887882

[meager python]

Minior only takes 1 slot

Hes a good boy neglected by GF

[crude garden]

There's no losses with the Goomy line, even sliggoo is great

[meager python]

He was only in gen 7 then forgotten by game freak. Give him a life here

https://tenor.com/view/minior-pokemon-gif-25755174

[violet pawn]

deserved

[meager python]

D;

[violet pawn]

:D

[meager python]

:(

[violet pawn]

;)

[meager python]

Toxapex is the most annoying mon competitively. I have to much PTSD from regenerator… this is why I didnt vote for it

It doesnt deserve love

Its a war criminal

[violet pawn]

ahaha, I have to admit, I never played competetive

[meager python]

Toxapex is so bulky it hard walls everything, then regenerator makes it impossible to kill.

[meager python]

Tyrunt gaming

[crude garden]

Know who was decent but not overbearing in competitive? Goodra

[violet pawn]

sounds fun for a singleplayer game, don't you think?

[meager python]

Until they put a trainer that abuses it

[violet pawn]

I would actualy like harder trainer battles tbh

[meager python]

It’s honestly low skill, so it wouldnt be difficult to abuse it

[crude garden]

https://tenor.com/view/goodra-pokemon-dancing-cute-raining-gif-17795953

[lusty oxide]

I’m here once again! shiny sound

[meager python]

Goodra is a cool mon. It deserves in here

[meager python]

What ideas do you have for toxapex if it does get added?

[violet pawn]

like sprites?

[meager python]

Its kinda bland tbh

[meager python]

Yes

[violet pawn]

let me think

[hollow tulip]

I did it in Piskel and i think i made it better

[white meadow]

smh make a png

[hollow tulip]

ok

[meager python]

Because minior could have so many meteor ideas… like the moon from majoras mask

[white meadow]

lunatone:

[hollow tulip]

This is the Png

[violet pawn]

haha I don't actually hat minior, though I gave it a 0

[meager python]

But lunatone is substantially less cool

[meager python]

D:<

[lusty oxide]

Also aren’t solrock and lunatone together

[meager python]

I believe so

Like a deoxys minior sprite to show the meteor deoxys came in on

And its cute… who doesnt like cute pokemon

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[meager python]

Slurpuff is definitely not going to win. Im confident.

Gen 6 fairys (baring sylveon) are super under used

[hushed mantle]

Kid named belly drum unburden:

[white meadow]

wym under used

[meager python]

Not under rated, but people just never use them and forget about them

[white meadow]

xerneas:

[hushed mantle]

It’s underrated at this point

[meager python]

Its a box legendary that doesnt count

[white meadow]

(ok to be fair i don't actually remember the other fairies other than xerneas and diancie so maybe you have a point)

[meager python]

And yveltal is better

Spritze(?)

[violet pawn]

Well for starters I think the legs it have are pretty unique, and I like the palette. I think the legs/tentacles would be interesting when incorporated into different parts of the other pokemon's body. I also think the bunker-like design would be cool to do with other pokemon. Mareanie could also make some pretty cute but also unique fusions

[hushed mantle]

Spritzee was doomed to be bad

[meager python]

And its evolution (i forgor its name)

[white meadow]

meh it's mostly the fact that gen 6 barely added any pokemon

[meager python]

If its tentacles, we have tentecruel. But bunker designs with mons like avalugg would be cool.

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/regirock-un-un-un-locket-regirock-locket-un-gif-26271978

[meager python]

But they added some bangers like the honedge line

[violet pawn]

Yes, we do already have tentacles, but toxapex's are very different from tentacruel's. They could be made into armor for example, and they have spikes

[sand mica]

And Aromatisse and Amaura!

[meager python]

Like a igloo bunker type design with avalugg sounds amazing

[sand mica]

Mandibuzz's bones are significantly different from Cubone because they're being used as clothing.

[meager python]

Aromatisse is a very unpopular mon. But amaura and tyrunt are amazing

[violet pawn]

what are you trying to say?

[meager python]

Hes saying mandibuzz wears the corpse of its enemies

[hard kiln]

more toxipex love

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[meager python]

NO BAD! sprays you with water

[hard kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-21258530

[white meadow]

it's better if you use earthquake

[meager python]

earthquake

[violet pawn]

Yeah but we was not talking bout no mandibuzz

[meager python]

Haha we had the same idea

[hard kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-worry-about-me-sad-depressed-water-gif-16371680

[hard kiln]

was holding balloons, so is unaffected

[meager python]

Psychic

[white meadow]

thousand arrows

[hard kiln]

is dark type

[hard kiln]

oh no o3o

[meager python]

there is no teratype

[violet pawn]

does anyone else here like pokemon?

[hard kiln]

tera usually refered to earth, so technically yes?

[white meadow]

what's that? never heard of something like that ever

[hard kiln]

oh, we all LOVE pokemon.

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[meager python]

Whats a pokanmene

[violet pawn]

It's like animels but they have like guns and shit

[meager python]

Never heard of it

[hard kiln]

oh snap, sounds like i'd love that.

[meager python]

Wait what mons have guns!? Inteleon is the only one I know

[white meadow]

that's sounds silly, and don't tell me they are also conveniently stored in devices capable of shrinking them

[meager python]

OH GOD

[meager python]

Blue gastrodon best gastrodon

[violet pawn]

nah they're actually stored in massive safes

[hard kiln]

clawitzer
Genesect
Blastoise

I should make team gun.

[violet pawn]

someone should make a fangame like this

[meager python]

Ok quick debate, which shellos is best shellos

[meager python]

Pokemon sword, shield and gun

[gentle ferry]

Ooh, tricky. I still like east but both are good.

Honestly both gastro are fine too it’s just funny to war.

[hard kiln]

you don't always carry both with you? I know I do. I also carried my zangoose and seviper together, too.

[slate gazelle]

I like the pink’s color scheme but the blue’s proportions

[hushed mantle]

Tahts a digimone

[meager python]

Bros trying to start a gang war in his pocket

[hard kiln]

man, that was my favorite gen. Pokemon GUN.

[hushed mantle]

The blue one

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[meager python]

East(?) is my favorite also

[slate gazelle]

here’s the tier list I made at 2 am. I didn’t intend for Castform to be that high and I don’t know why it’s there.

[lusty oxide]

Gen 3 shellos is def the best

[hard kiln]

we need dessert pokemon. slurmpuff gives us this.

[meager python]

I made the toxapex arguemnt earlier

[tame flax]

Slurpuff 🫶

[slate gazelle]

I like pex as a Pokémon but competitive Pokémon has ruined it for me

[violet pawn]

:'(

[meager python]

Im glad minior is ranked highly… should be higher ong

[hushed mantle]

Should i interest you in some hoopa fusions?

[white meadow]

Would you like to hear about the Design Potential of Gourgeist?

[meager python]

DESERVED TOXIPEX IS A MENACE AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH

The PTSD from Toxipex is to strong

[violet pawn]

toxapex too devious for y'all smh smh

[slate gazelle]

I dislike Big Stall

[meager python]

Fake stall is hilarious

[humble pasture]

Am I able to advertise on the server

[white meadow]

What about Gourgeist and Pumpkaboo? Would you like to hear about some Potential for them?

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[violet pawn]

Guys it's a singleplayer game

[humble pasture]

Where would I advertise?

[meager python]

Like having a avalugg set up iron defence before slapping things with bodypress

[violet pawn]

advertise what

[white meadow]

that's basically what is this channel for

[slate gazelle]

Sure

[meager python]

This all depends pn what your advertising

[humble pasture]

A camp

[white meadow]

if you mean by posting voting propaganda ig

[meager python]

Thats vague…

[humble pasture]

I am making a competition on discord, also known as a camp

You have probably heard of an object camp before maybe?

[lusty oxide]

Surprisingly the server rules say nothing about advertising

[white meadow]

who the hell refers to those with camp

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[humble pasture]

Okay well not everybody is a fan of BFDI

[meager python]

#off-topic … dont overstay your welcome if people dont like you advertising

[white meadow]

i was about to say something but im really sure that kind of humor isn't allowed here

[lusty oxide]

I love BFDI

[meager python]

Wtf is bfdi

[humble pasture]

You do? Well, my camp is actually about my singing monsters

[humble pasture]

BFDI is a web series where contestants compete for a prize

[meager python]

Again, #off-topic is where you should go.

[iron quartz]

battle for dream island?

[meager python]

It’s literally there for things non pokemon related

[iron quartz]

I cant read
too small

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[violet pawn]

open in browser

[slate gazelle]

Melo is top tier and Skuntank is low tier

[meager python]

I dont like skunks so thats why I hate skuntank

[slate gazelle]

And the one with :( are mons I’m attached to but wouldn’t make great fusions

[iron quartz]

ah

[violet pawn]

what

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[white meadow]

Okay. So from a Single First Glance they may seem like they only have Pumpkin Stuff going for them. But similar to how Fusions like the Porygon Evolutionary Line use Themes instead of specifically a Design, Gourgeist and Pumpkaboo could also incorporate Themes for Halloween Tropes; and when it's the Body of Fusions, then the Head could influence either the Pumpkin to create specific Moldings and Artsy Designs, or it could influence the Actual Body/Spirit of Gourgeist and Pumpkaboo that Sticks out of the Pumpkin to begin with (an example could be a Golurk's Arms, Legs, and Head sticking out of a Giant Pumpkin)

[slate gazelle]

I feel like Skuntank would just be Miltank 2

[hushed mantle]

Imagine if skuntank wins and someone makes a fusion of gardevoir farting

[iron quartz]

Stop
we do not need another mon that will create cursed fusions like Miltank.

[meager python]

BAD THOUGHTS

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[iron quartz]

stop
STOP

[round gale]

Out of curiosity, was there a reason why starters were removed from the poll?

[white meadow]

space

[meager python]

Wait what

[tame flax]

Too many slots

[iron quartz]

way too popular
or oo many slots

[white meadow]

me when pinned messages

[round gale]

Ah I guess you'd need to add all 9

[meager python]

Yea 9 slots per vote

[sturdy breach]

Figured I should also update mine again

[sand mica]

No

[white meadow]

But anyways, Leafysun: are you now interested in the Gourgeist Family at all?

[iron quartz]

no.

[sand mica]

Gourgeist would be good.

[white meadow]

I'm the Leader of the Alliance for all Grass/Ghost Types (aside from the Decidueye Family for being kicked out with the other Starters), also known as the TDG (Trevenant Dhelmise Gourgeist) Alliance, so thank you for the Compliment

[hard kiln]

tis why i ignore competitive when it comes to things like voting which i want in a fusion game where creativity stands about effectiveness.

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[sand mica]

Grumpig and Skuntank should get in first though so I can be satisfied.

[hard kiln]

is toxapex good? Is toxapex bad? I don't care, I'm here to slam it together with machamp to see what happens.

[white meadow]

Anyways, sorry for making Turning the @ On for that Reply Leafysun, I wanted to make sure that you noticed it before everyone else pushed it back a ton through other messages

it's just a ping, why does that matter

[graceful torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/abomasnow-ice-punch-water-shuriken-mega-gif-26863562

vote for abomasnow because theyre super cool we need more ice types and he can set hail by existing :)

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[white meadow]

Well some people don't always find it okay if you put something as a Ping.

meh ig

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[sturdy breach]

I think there's quite some people who would prefer

[hard kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-gif-14006288

[rough hound]

any melo spriters in chat rn? i have an idea

[graceful torrent]

counterpoint i would like them both i just personally like abomasnow more because i have a shiny one from the USUM games :)

[trail hull]

when I was a kid the avalugg line and the abomasnow line were the same for me

also hello

[round gale]

Want to bring up the potential for aromatise fusions!

PokéPefume bottles, flamingos and also plague doctor fusions would be awesome.

[trail hull]

I think plaggue doctor could only work wt hdark and poison type

[graceful torrent]

i personally never liked or got to use this pokemon because of [TRADE EVOLUTION]

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/aromatisse-perfume-monster-sassy-happy-laughing-gif-27404593

spritzee oh how i loved you in shield although you never evolved due to not having a friend who played to trade with

[trail hull]

talkinag about side inspiration bruxish could be useful for clow and flower fusion

not that I want bruxish but I'm jsut saying

[crude garden]

Plague doctors actually kept flowers and other aromatics in their masks, they thought germs got in through your sniffer so if you only smelled good things you were safe

[hard kiln]

sometimes i forget how old i am. and lines like this hit me in the chest.

[trail hull]

yeah

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-buggy-impel-down-sad-clown-gif-11105591

the full scene of this where he is stabbed by the words in the speech bubble but it says "when i was a kid"

[hard kiln]

you have me at everything else BUT the flamingo...dang flamigo.

[round gale]

I loved Gengar from afar, never able to get one until X and Y.

[hard kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/buggy-gif-19915850

[hard kiln]

i watched this scene. still love one piece.

[short garden]

wAIT...

BLACEPHALON CLOWN

STAKATAKA COMES APART INTO PIECES

BLACEPHALON/STAKATAKA IS JUST BUGGY

[hard kiln]

NEW FUSION IDEA CONFIRMED!

[meager python]

If they both get added

Which is unlikely due to the surprising amount of stakataka hate

[short garden]

let's talk one piece fusion ideas

🥭 content or no?

[hard kiln]

plague doctor mask are long to keep a fresh mixture of herbal materials for health and constitution measures.

[hard kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/yesyesyesyesyes-jojo-gif-8822335

[short garden]

aromatisse perfume

plague doctor mask herbs smell good

aromatisse smell good

[crude garden]

I don't know if it's specific stakataka hate it seems more like generalized ultra beast hate

[round matrix]

I shall make a prediciton of the next pokemon revealed to us

[meager python]

I mean probably to also mask the smell of corpses

[short garden]

miasma

[round matrix]

The next pokemon will be ||The kalos starters||

[hard kiln]

it's a whole theme that flows so well on it's own. Proof that Aromatisse is a pokemon design with multiple levels of thematic depth.

[crude garden]

Goomy

[short garden]

we've decided not to add them for now and instead focus on adding a larger varity of Pokemon.

[meager python]

No they got removed from the poll I beleive

[sharp nebula]

nah im pretty sure itll be meloetta

[round matrix]

FU-

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/aromatisse-perfume-monster-camera-pan-pokemon-anime-gif-27404587

i love this goober. the aubergine

[crude garden]

All 27 starters were nixed

[round matrix]

I want a redo then

[trail hull]

so with 6 out of 20 spot things are starting to be harder as like some big lines might not get in and peopel who are fan of an unpoplar mon start to despair

[sturdy breach]

Also Kalos starters are overhyped af

[meager python]

Chestnaut is underrated

[hard kiln]

it's overall ultrabeast hate. i can't even call it hate, it's just that if you add one ultra beast, the others will be wanted for by proxy using the one or two as a gateway to the others. all ultra beasts are standalone, but people will want more than just a few of them.

[short garden]

i love chesnaught but the other two are more than a bit overrated, greninja the most so

[trail hull]

the main responsible for the hype is greninja

[sturdy breach]

Yup, and Greninja is the most overrated pokemon of all time (maybe tied with Charizard)

[trail hull]

like greninja is extremely overrated

[meager python]

Literally greninja is the ONLY popular gen 6 starter

[hard kiln]

that's what i meant by constitution.

[short garden]

i personally don't think they can be done justice without a game to revolve around them like S&M did, but i love all of them

[sharp nebula]

the only one i like is fennekin

[crude garden]

Alola starters have the most potential other than paldea imo

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-tejaswi-vidit-nirat-charizard-gif-22591161

dragonite

the non-dragon-ite

[trail hull]

gen 7 are carried by incineroar and decidueye while gen 5 is for samurott I believe

[meager python]

Quiladden is where chespin and chestnaut get hate

[sturdy breach]

Incineroar is the hated one there, Primarina is actually pretty well liked (2nd form sucks tho)

[crude garden]

Which sucks because quilladin is such a great name

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/flareon-pokémon-flareon-flamethrower-flareon-uses-flamethrower-quilladin-gif-25797872

i love quilladin

[round matrix]

I shall look a the poll and make my predoction then

[meager python]

Incineroar is possibly the most hated starter… both for its design and competitive

[trail hull]

oh really? I thoguht incineroar was the most like due to it being very used in the competitive scene back in gen 7 and a bit in 8

[sharp nebula]

this is why its hated

[sturdy breach]

Incineroar is stupidly op in doubles

[meager python]

Competitive is WHY people hate it also. Its so over used and op

[trail hull]

fair I guess , I choosed popplio as my starter in sm

[meager python]

Poplio is best starter

[short garden]

i wish they let us all pick individual starter lines because i want chesnaught but dont like greninja

although come to think about it... everyone would pick incineroar and greninja, instantly wiping six slots AND not having the other two starter lines each to slow em down

[sturdy breach]

Funny how Rillaboom got instantly replaced on teams in SwSh the moment Incineroar was added to the game

[trail hull]

I choosed grookey in gen 8

[meager python]

Rillaboom got grassy glide removed in gen 9

[round matrix]

My prediction is ||Roggenrola||

[meager python]

Its now practically useless

[trail hull]

we'll see if incineroar get nerf once he comes for the second dlc

[meager python]

IT SHOULD

[trail hull]

I think there are more popular option

[short garden]

i used rillaboom but i dont really like any of the gen 8 starters tbh

if anything, tympole was my starter

caught early game, used throughout all the rest, was my best mon overall

[meager python]

Goldhengo also needs a heavy nerf

[hard kiln]

luckily i don't take into account usefullness when voting.

[round matrix]

Its my Guess Prediciton

[trail hull]

knowing gf they can either do it or make it worse nad give him so better moves

[short garden]

i think goodra or golisopod are next tbh

barely any pushback and copious amounts of love

[sturdy breach]

Nah Rillaboom got used before Grassy Glide as well. (though Cinderace was more popular due the the now-nerfed Libero). Due to fake out and pretty decent bulk

[meager python]

Rillaboom isnt in the vote

[trail hull]

It might be an other gen 3 mo nas they are extremely popular for the msot part

[hard kiln]

i know. i was just saying as an overall. until we have a way of battling each other, there's no need to care about competitive reasons.

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/grumpig-pig-snort-angry-enemy-gif-27404474

[trail hull]

it is less popular then altaria and other

[meager python]

Another quick debate here, Zangoose or Seviper

[short garden]

enemies to lovers

[white meadow]

I want the next mon to be a Grass/Ghost Type (I Preferably want Gourgeist to get in First)

[meager python]

They are literally known to use gang tactics against eachother

Its like bloods and crips

[trail hull]

apparently they come as a pair

[short garden]

romeo juliet

zero married(technically) six dead

[meager python]

Beyond the voting. If you had a choice which would you pick

[trail hull]

they even hate so much each othe rthat gf had to separated in different version whn they first release (it's titally that and not money reasons)

[sturdy breach]

From any gen?

[trail hull]

cool snek

[trail hull]

no between zangoose and seviper

[meager python]

Zangoose is cooler

[sturdy breach]

Hmmm Seviper due to nostalgia reasons (had Sapphire)

[white meadow]

I've said this about 15-20 Times already, but I'll say it again: we don't need any of the Ultra Beasts

[trail hull]

I never played saphire but alpha spahhire was my version

[meager python]

For the people voting ultrabeasts and legendaries THEY WILL BE END GAME IF NOT POST GAME

[hushed mantle]

Alakazam + blacephalon = magic guard mind blown

[trail hull]

we do

[thin thicket]

So then why say it? You just going to get people to tell you otherwise?

[short garden]

it would be cool, but there aint enough space or story to do them and necrozma justice and they would end up butchered

[white meadow]

Exactly

[trail hull]

the majority of people play randomizer (like apparently 80%) so they would still be bale to play with them early. I might be wrong

[dusk shoal]

I love the bruxish love in the reactions.

[meager python]

Thats fair

[hushed mantle]

Only 2 of them are enough tbh

[trail hull]

yeah

I don't want all of them just 1 or 2

[white meadow]

And the fact is that from every time I've said it, even the first time, at least one or two people have always argued against my claim no matter what about how Ultra Beasts should not be in the game

[trail hull]

completly related but here is the joke alt request i accepted (paras wooper so it is called papaer)

[sturdy breach]

I would say the odds are stacked against you, they are not the most popular of mons overall

[dusk shoal]

Look, if we argue that they need to add all the ultrabeasts...then we get them all. I'm just saying. They should ALL BE IN. one package. All of them. Because, imo, they also need an EVENT and new area to introduce them

[trail hull]

I think trevenant has the most chances from what I've seen

[white meadow]

Well if people want Trevenant, then they might want to complete the Pair by also having Gourgeist

[meager python]

Trevenant deserves it

[trail hull]

they can't add new area anymore

[thin thicket]

Don't need one

[meager python]

No new areas, no new regions

[white meadow]

And that's my main point about Ultra Beasts: the only choices are either us having No Ultra Beasts, or All Ultra Beasts

[thin thicket]

They literally just appear out of portals

[dusk shoal]

They just need a 'zone' you teleport to, nothing on the base map.

They need an introduction, to make sense, I mean. Not a new island

[white meadow]

And I'd much rather have better Pokemon to work with than having over Half of the New Pokemon being Ultra Beasts.

[thin thicket]

Like what?

[meager python]

Any legendaries and ultrabeasts will likely be late game. So if you want to use them you either have to randomize and get lucky or start with them.

[trail hull]

we litterally saw that it's not because one mon of a group joined that the rest will with tyrunt line , so like there is no problem only having one (sorry if if it sounded aggresive or rude this wasn't my intention)

[dusk shoal]

This. They need to be an all or nothing thing and shouldn't be part of the running for the 20 we get. They need their own patch.

[white meadow]

Dhelmise, Gourgeist, Trevenant, Excadrill, Ludicolo, etc.

[white meadow]

And thank you for agreeing with me on that matter.

[sturdy breach]

Like this

[smoky basalt]

Or this

[dusk shoal]

Or, here me out, leavanny line. Just saying.

[dusk shoal]

Also purrugly. Best cat and has its evolution as something fun and memorable.

[sturdy breach]

I'm fine with that, Goodra is there 🙂

[smoky basalt]

Yes goodra is a great mon

[thin thicket]

Was my old tier list but that's what I feel about half them. Probably need to update

[dusk shoal]

My tier list has all ultrabeasts, legendary and mythical in their own category of 'needs their own patch, lets get some good old regular Pokémon in' and people got sooooo mad. Lol

[slate gazelle]

Zebstrika has a cool color palette and a unique design

[hard kiln]

i love zebstrika

[thin thicket]

Aren't like zebras like the most malicious animals to their own kind?

[inland jewel]

I agree, we already have to many legendaries, I want to use regular mons before the E4

[white meadow]

If I could make my Own List, I would do that, and put that Tier at the Bottom of the List

[sturdy breach]

Have you heard of Shoebills? 🙂

[violet pawn]

I don't think jrepra is a zebra

[dusk shoal]

I love zebstrika but it, like all horse and deer Pokémon, have the issue of only having a given amount of artists who aren't terrified of drawing them. And I get it. That's not me, but I get it.

[violet pawn]

though the name is suspiciously similar

[meager python]

To suspicious

[thin thicket]

Duh. I'm talking about the Pokémon🫷

[ornate lantern]

Vote fluffy cloud bird C:

[white meadow]

We have a Ton of Dragons already, and Two More are being added through Tyrunt and Tyrantrum.

[meager python]

Flaffy altaria could literally make a cloud

[smoky basalt]

Vote for the DOAT

[dusk shoal]

I did. Love cloud birb. Plus the added benefit of 'people who hate to draw wings may now draw clouds'

[sturdy breach]

It's not like half of them are legendaries

[meager python]

He is the darmanitan of all time

[smoky basalt]

Yes

[ornate lantern]

yes and Zapdos Altaria would make angry storm clouds C:

[thin thicket]

I'd vote him for the ability that's about it, since it's interesting , but there's like duplicates or variations of that ability.

[meager python]

That sounds really cool actually

[glossy osprey]

roll the zygarde agenda

[white meadow]

From what I can get Off the Top of My Head for Dragons: Rayquaza, Kyurem, Reshiram, Zekrom, the Salamence line, the Garchomp line, Kingdra, the Dragonite line, and soon to be the Tyrantrum Family.

[ornate lantern]

I know right, can someone sprite that lol also I'm sure Moltran would rain ashes with altaria and Articuno would freeze Altaria making snow C:

[dusk shoal]

I mean for my tier list, I had a category for 'we have things that look like this already' which all three form birds, bugs and most dragons and turtles ended up in.

[white meadow]

So would Pseudo Legends count towards that?

But yeah, we don't necessarily need MORE Dragons

[sturdy breach]

Why would pseudo legends count towards legends?

[inland jewel]

Sinnoh legends,