#pif-hoenn-discussion
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hey if you count mythicals diancie exists ig?
Saw that one
mythicals don't count
sad
honestly- just sableye is fine, but I really want marshadow, Xurkitree, Kartana, and Meloetta too, they all got some good potential tbh
ok not seen that one and it's decent. Still don't see myself using it, but it's ok. Dhelmise goes to D+ now
But i'm so sick of having to fuse everything to one of the like three fairy types in the game to get a fairy type legendary-ish pokemon.
what makes a pokemon mythical btw
Arbitrary
Stuff that's added by events.
legendary but event only
It’s just a classification that Pokémon company came up with for events. There is absolutely no in universe distinction
oh nice
breh i wish there were actual methods to get them legit
God I saw the Pachirisu/Pichu mod for smash again lmao
well ig they did it for some of them
For example, Mewtwo is a legendary since it's catchable in the base game.
Mew is mythical since it was event only.
and now they are giving it away like it's candy
dont rlly like it
tbh I just don't like the design of dhelmise. There's a couple good fusions, but the aesthetic just isn't for me.
why so much dhelmise
did you read my name
yeah but they're not that good
they are
Cuz I dislike deep sea pokemon 😔
Dragalge doesn't appeal to me either.
who are you even for
oh no wonder you dislike that
Groudon Yveltal, Xerneas Arceus Zygarde Articunos
like bro 2 of yours dont have a chance of making it
why? I can guarantee you're wrong
gl making kartana and xurkitree in
I need this arceus fusion.
I honestly don't care, as long as some of them make it in. which, if you couldn't tell already happened
Who even remembers that mon, i forgot he existed
i do
I'm fine with not all of my top picks being added, unlike most people here. those are just the pokemon that I think have good potential
many people here do
also good luck making dhelmise in. :/
Oh is that why? Kurayami is based, then. 😄
it has a bunch of support if you didnt notice
i voted dhelmise which totally means it's getting in fr
In this channel, but we're maybe 500 people (and that's being optimistic) of the 35,000+ who voted. 😅
also a reuniclus fusion was made in 2018
And also, some of us voted against it, like me. 😛
maybe there is other people
wait how many people does the server even have?
Maybe there are, I'm just saying that no support here is indicative of the total votes. Could be much higher, or much lower. 😮
it prob getting in
Over 315,000, last I checked. The poll's also on Reddit though, it seems. 😅
So True!
I know Pachi isn't getting in, I just wanna advocate a pokemon many dislike and change some minds
pretty sure that has the opposite effect
I've changed a couple peoples minds.
like i didn't even hate that many pokemon until i witnessed this chat
same 💀
Again, a couple out of 35,000+ is not a lot. 😅
I like most Pokémon, I just hate a lot of them as fusion material. 😛
the only pokemon I explicitly hate are UBs.
this chat made me hate: avalugg,marhsadow,pachirisu i think that's all
Based. You've won me around on Pachirisu from this alone. 😄
i hate to agree
So, the people advertising the most?
basically
I don't see what's wrong with UBs
they're bad material
do u like ADDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSS
WOOOOO BERGMITE!!!
and there it is, the reason i started hating icebergs
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
you made me vote from 3 to 0 on avalugg
because they're complicated?
time to spray away the ozone layer 👍
ok
yep
how about kartana? I've seen many cool origami fusions with it
Most up to date of my tierlists 😉
great for u i wonder how many 0s you put with all the propaganda
seeing that i've stopped,idk
I mean, if you don't like the propoganda why are you here?
to talk about the votes
because i love to hate!
i respect the A tier
Listing reasons and not even mentioning IF's lack of Ice-types? 😦
The Dhelmise people are single handedly the only negative I have for it. I genuinely forgot it existed and was like "eh it kinda looks cool."
Anyway Avalugg S tier lol
better?
i just like it
the ub slander is crazy
true...
That font is atrocious. 😛
just like the pokemon itself
true
As much as I understood his post yes
Look, even Team Rocket like Pachirisu!
i dont like team rocket
i didnt make this. one person is very sad right now
F tier opinion, Team rocket are cool.
what???
A tier opinion*
The anime rockets were part of the charm of the anime 😔
ye kinda
Team rocket was carrying sometimes
it was mostly james
yes
||with that said, vote bruxish||
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Oh cmon, you got Dhelmise/Golurk and didn't do a bioshock big daddy? smh
casually holding it like a plushie
He be small… sometimes
Fixed
a
Yes
Slurpuff
Jessie and James are S tier team rocket members. they suck at their jobs but still
Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:
- they're good bois
- we need more speedy rock types
- we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
- A great mix of cute and cool
- Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
- a lot of possible cool fusions
Where is the vote even at
Ty I'm voting for Avalugg 
Ew
Meloetta is a valid choice, as an ally to Meloetta
Would ask you to consider Goodra as well 🙂
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AVALUGGGGGG SUPPPOORRTTTTTTTT
goodra is another good choice tbh
Nobody considers kommo-o
i voted that thing 3 its cool
for point 3... what do you think about gogoat? just curious
go goat would be the first and only goat pokemon
My revised list after yesterday. Kartana, meloetta and diancie out, aurorus swapped with abomasnow.
kommo-o/Meowth with golden scales would look cool
I mean yeah
I gave it a two iirc
makes sense
No, i checked, they got a 3, i forgor
Wrong way around, it's clearly a Walrein head fusion. 😛
Marshadow is a gas mon /j
or just use any other recover move?
why get milk drink specifically
quick, someone name a mon in the vote that's liquidic
Muk is a liquid mon
But you can stack recovery moves this way
in the game already, but still works ig
Depends on your definition. Goodra could be
Rotom is a plasma mon
Also in the game tho
zapdos is a plasma mon
ig, but i haven't heard of anyone stacking multiple healing moves 🔥
Not 100% liquid, but can add a liquid/gooey body to a mon
Bulbasaur is a plasma mon
goodra is a slime mon
I'd say the closest thing to a liquid mon would be the spider dood
also, a pokemon that is technically liquid: Vaporeon
Araquanid
Oh god....
what?
I think there are too many dragons in the game. All the dragons up to gen 5 aside from druddigon, and now also tyrantrum are in the game. We need more dark and ghost types, also new fire, grass, water and electric types to build new teams.
flareon is a non-state of matter mon
If there's 1 type we have a bunch of, it's water
Hey guys, did you know....
I did I didn't realize it was multiple choice
And honestly really long I'm starting to feel like there's less pokemon in the game than I thought lol
can we go one day without anyone mentioning that copypasta
Let's add noivern, poipole, and dragalge
ok wait so is flareon made of fire then
kinda answered my question myself considering this is a pokemon fanbase
I don't think so, I was going off of dex entries
That just means we need Druddigon
and what is sylveon made of? trans?
Pride
lmaooo
is umbreon made of enby?
They're made of goth
I only mentioned it because you didn't understand me the first time
enbyeon
Leafeon is made of leaf holy shit
We dont have enough GOOD water types. Too many qwillfishes, corsolas, seels, seakings, octilleries and golducks.
Jolteon is made of jolt
i did breh, why did you have to mention it at all
Espeon is made out of esp... whatever that is
like you saw "vaporeon" and your reaction was "oh god..."
Poliwhirl is made of poligons
Qwilfish is great don't you diss my man
Water type is the most common type in the game
The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
but what is Eevee made of
🇪
E
Estrogen? so it's true evolution is sylveon /j
EV aka effort values
Estreon
there's no way sylveon ISN'T trans though. their shiny literally doesn't change the colors. only swaps the blue and pink
pretty sure it doesn't change gender when it evolves
It'd be really funny if Sylveon had a reversed gender ratio
Highly doubt it
unlike azumaril 🔥
7 females to 1 male and all of that
btw I mean trans-based as in the colors, not the pokemon itself
Yeah but it'd be fun
Still highly doubt it
why
If you use a gender ball on a sylveon does it cancel out?
it reverts back to eevee 😦
It's basically pastel colours, something people would easily recognize as fairy type.
Of course it is its just a meme
They were askin, I answered
yes but it was a meme
and you answered seriously smh
plot twist: every eeveelution is based on a pride flag, but we only know of sylveon 0-0
why doesn't sylveon's colors change when they're shiny though
I think there's more pokemon that don't change colour palette, just shifts them around
oh nice, I didn't know that
I'm not sure, but would make sense
how dare you interrupt the Sylveon convo smh
this isn't the place for that
Chonk
Whats with its eyes? It looks misarable like it hates carrying that thing
It is, canonically. 😅
O
Weirdly enough it's depressed cause it's lonely I think
Im forcing my little brother to vote >:)
Yeah, Hisuian Goodra is legit depressed
"Able to freely control the hardness of its metallic shell. It loathes solitude and is extremely clingy—it will fume and run riot if those dearest to it ever leave its side."
So you could say all wild H-Goodra are lonely
The Hisuian goomy line is everything I've ever wanted from a pseudolegendary line
Sounds like a real life toxic person
Daily reminder to raise your vote to bruxish 🫡
That's a mood. 🙂
Depends on how you interpret 'leave it's side'
But yeah, it has a social disorder
The world's largest, most gooey puppy 😄
Gogoat is cool but there are many cooler grass types yet to be added. Like lurantis, dhelmise, kartana, lilligant, ludicolo etc.
I'd like to argue goodra is, in fact, not a puppy ||it's a kitten||
And yet IF has a criminally low number of Ice, Fighting, Dark and Fairy-types. 😢
Kartana's also not cool, it's lame. 😛
Won't accept the kartana slander
Half of them arent as cool as Gogoat
I think we need more physical Grass types
Kartana is a UB so its not on my list
Lurantis is meh and the rest wss special I think
Yeah we need abomasnow, aurorus, marshadow, medicham, florges etc.
Chat sure is right now
Of those, only Aurorus (maybe Abomasnow). 😛
Ubs are awesome, especially with what they bring to the table both power and design wise to he fusions
I like aurorus
Also Dhelmise is on my list too
Another flower mon is meh
And Ludicolo is cool but we have enough special grass and water types
Marshadow isn't good enough to be in the chosen 20 imo, we already have darkrai and zoroark
No mapamar, lovecraftian squid fusions and contrary?
Someone who understands
Abomasnow for Obama names
I also like marshadow but i can see how it'd be bad for fusions
Of those, only Avalugg (maybe Abomasnow). 😛
I also do but im bummed out after yesterday 🙁
Gumshoos for trump
It brings out shadowy super saiyan like fusions how is marshadow bad?
I thinks its because Zoroark and Darkrai already cover its niche (thats the term right)
what kind of super saiyan do you know
Gumshoos for gumshoe and columbo.
“Shadowy” and “super saiyan” don’t really go together
It's not inherently bad, it's just that we already have similar mons. We should focus on things we DON'T have instead of having multiple mons that serve one similar purpose
daily post
Also other reasons for Gogoat
BST is nice for fusions
Abilitys are interesting and one makes a imunity
The movepool it has is pretty nice and fun to use
What site is that
Tell that to marshadow itself
I do like having milk drink without miltank!
Its a Pokedex app I have on my phone
Marshadow isn't that saiyan
Only intersting move here is horn leech rest is extremely basic wdym? Also boring abilities and bad stats.
Neat 👍
Saiyan-like
Also Horn Leech is a nice alternative and its one of the mons that learn EQ without tm
Tangrowth is the real saiyan mon 
Gogoat has a 3 now (I’m very easy to convince)
super sayian gives spiky golden hair and a bright glowy aura and marshadow has none of those
Should i be posting these propaganda images too
Only if you want to
Just replace gold with green and orange
Milk drink
Horn leech
Naturally learning EQ
And some other coverage like a Flying move
- we didnt even look at tms
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Inspiring
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Should’ve been face off with ün ün ün lyrics
I'll do it because i wanna support the one that brought me here in the first place
As i said, it isn’t literally saiyan, just seems similar to it
and even if the colors didn't matter there is still no spiky hair
I think its a pretty usefull Pokemon designg wise , move wise and stat wise thinkig of body fusions
or a spiky anything
Even head fusions are fine cuz of the HP stat and sp stat
I never said it was spiky
Eq is very common so is aerial ace. Milk drink IS uniqe but anything "milk" related is a minus for me...
I do like solar beam. Also why is like almost every pokemon able to learn toxic???
Speaking of pokemon we need
super saiyan is spiky
Gogoat has literally nothing related to milk, so you can get a good move without cursed nipple fusions
Cuz most animals can cause you gettig deseases when they bite you
better argument than most propaganda here 👍
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Maybe a muk fusion that resembles alolan muk?
A healing move is a - for you???? Why its not even on the sprite
Yeah eq and arial ace are common but how many Grass types learn it by themselfes
That’s already. Thing. There’s even a video
I’m just gotta put it as super powerful transformation like
Gotta go and drive I can talk about Gogoat later and why its amazing
That's a pretty good idea
there, that's better
You didn't say Malamar in that list. 😛
but with lips
no way a manaphy and phione voter
Me 2 but unfortunately it doesn’t have good potential for fusions, tho v create would be funny
now i gotta try the lottery
I messed up 
vote Malamar for lovecraftian fusions and contrary
I think it would have some good potential. You gotta look at it's dex entries. It is a literal nuclear bomb
V create would be cool, but manaphy and phione are literally the same thing and take up 2 slots and both don’t have much fusion potential
also pretty low effort but Vote for Weather-Mons!!
YES
Yeah it sucks they take up 2 slots but manaphy being just straight up water can make for some cool head fusions
like there aren't a lot of water types already
I mean vaporeon is just water too
There aren't a lot of pure water designed pokemon
And since the more the merrier, vote bruxish!1!!!1!1
hey at least it's not pure water!
Vaporeon has fish elements, which means you can't do too crazy
and exactly what is manaphy?
Pure water
Mystical ass water
blob that i hate
Ass water? might want to get it checked out if it lasts too long
only one word here describes manaphy perfectly (hint: it starts with an a)
Amazing
Also, manaphy has tail glow
Imagine fusing it with a special attacked like porygonz with download and using tail glow
3X special attack on the first turn
Yeah but GUN (Clawitzer+Hypno)
Manaphy and phione are terrible options imo
How so?
Yeah, but clawitzer and golisopod are amazing ones
They would be basically impossible to distinguish from one another in body fusions
manaphy at least has tail glow, phione is straight up doodoo
2 slots for the same thing, pure water, bland ass base stats, no cool ability and more
This is the same reason why the lake trio is a bad option imo
I actually would vote for manaphy if phione is seperated it doesnt even evolve to it
Who knows y'all
They might just say it'll count as 1 slot
The sprite managers are fair people
SHELL YEAH BROTHER
i still don't see many people voting for it anyway
you are literally the only manaphy voter i saw here ever
yeah probably not not with the comptition
Yeah most people vote for their favorite mons instead of fusion potential
I gave emolga a 3 💀
the ones voting for potential aren't voting manaphy either
This is why bruxish is in the bottom 😔
can i interest you in xurkitree? tail glow + beast boost + 173 SpAtk
He's already in my top 20
Beast boost xurkitree + regigigas 
my current list BTW
Tho fusion potential wise, it's kinda tricky
This is the best I made but I'm a D-list artists honestly
Based. Based. So, unbelievably based. Best opinions I’ve seen on this site.
Is mine
Holy god that looks awesome
Thank you
I just put wires in every hole I could find lol
Quite based
I wouldn't mind if this won
Especially that pirate ship one
Avalugg pretty plz
no
Most are just my favourites, I do see them having a bunch of fusion potential at least
wasnt asking u
already wire-y stuff like snakes, octopuses, eels and deoxys might be easier
Doexys is NOT wirey
had to pick between aurorus, abomasnow and avalugg. ıt used to be aurorus but after yesterday i put abomasnow. ıf we get trevenant or some other big tree i might swap it out for avalugg.
It has the squiggles
Those are strands of DNA
It wouldn't really work the same with Xurkitree/Clawitzer where it's full of wires
Let's be honest, deoxys' "wires" wouldn't be used in the same way xurkitree's wire would
I guess. But Deoxys + clawitzer would be sick
really scrapping the only 2 snow warning mons for a chunk of ice
you can make it like only 2 wires.
No one uses deoxys like that
wait wasnt aurorus confirmed not in
No, mod said that Tyrantrum getting in doesn't mean Amaura is getting in. It also doesn't mean that it's not able to get in
yea the announcment was only one fossil
they said that because aurorus and tyrantrum is a duo and only 1 got in. ıf aurorus won it could get in too.
Yeah I was thinking, how cool would it be to give deoxys Clawitzer arms?
o ok i read wrong
Very.
preferably no
Basically them saying that no Amaura fossil was found was a way to say that counterparts don't automatically get in
also clawitzer = megaman references. and mega launcher boosts origin pulse so maybe a kyogre fusion?
its a cool chunk of ice though😎 🧊
Probably unpopular opinion but cyrogonal would be cool. We don’t have a pure ice mon in the game yet and it has good head and body potential. Plus, only one slot.
avalugg is cool only in terms of temperature
and it's also a decently fast ice type which is great
Froslass is also pretty speedy
cryogonal and avalugg are about equal to me. I want 1 pokemon made of ice but not 2. they are both 3s for me until one gets in then the other is dropping to 1.
Dragalge + gastrodon looks genuinely sick wtf
does escavalier count as a slug?
Snail or not really since it’s wearing the shell of a snail it’s a beetle
Glad to see you gastrodon guys have fusion sprites 
That’s the best one so far yeah, really like it
alot do
im pretty sure that accelgor is the slug one, escavalier just got it's armor/shell
Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:
- they're good bois
- we need more speedy rock types
- we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
- A great mix of cute and cool
- Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
- a lot of possible cool fusions
dragalge might have cool coral fusions but its outclassed by so many other cooler mons
I do my best to actually make/find a few sprites to try to show him off so appreciate that the effort is appreciated haha
Like clawitzer. Vote clawitzer
Later today I may try my hand at shellos/shellos and Gastrodon/Gastrodon so hopefully they turn out good.
The gastrogod
BTW I have seen a lot of goodra+magcargo fusions trying to imitate its reigional form but woudnt shellmet, accelgor and escavalier might work way better with goodra.
Escavalier fusions would be so sick aaaaaa
Its barely out of my top 20 
Ok if torkoal, clawitzer or escavalier wins then I’ll be a happy man
Goodra + escavalier might be really fitting too since isnt goodra based on medievel portraits of knights fighting snails? it would be a snail knight.
If the Regi’s get in I’ll swap to Torkoal propaganda
True
So anyone still haveing something against Gogoat?
Yes, as well as Lou Carcolh
I can’t decide they are so many mons that would make cool fusion I wish we could have them all
still the same. bad stats, boring abilities and only uniuqe moves are horn leech and milk drink, neither are that good.
Who knows honestly
We might just get them all lmao
well this might not be the only vote ever so who knows
Only vote I see happening is a starter vote
If they could add them all I’m sure they would. It’s software limitations
i hope we eventually get all of them (except the elemental monkeys eww)
yeah lol
The stats are good for fusing tho
And what do you think is a good choice than?
ıf that happens gen 6 will obviously dominate, they might as well just add them without a vote...
Ngl gen 6 Grass starter final evo could make some good fusions
Bruxish
Gen 7 might have a chance but Gen 5 would be screwed lol.
lurantis, malamar, UBs, any mon with weather abilities etc.
It would have been better (I know if it’s surreal) if we would vote for which come first but the other still get in (I know it’s impossible it’s just a dream )
at least bruxish has fusion potential and takes up one slot. the monkeys are identical and theres SIX of them (also ugly af)
against greninja, delphox and chestnaught? no way. Ninja fusions, witch fusions and warrior fusions would dominate.
ngl the only reason people would vote for it is greninja lol
We have mons for weather except hail
Ubs dont fit the game imo
Malamar is only in cuz of Contrary same goes for Lurantis am I right? (Both dont really have a lot of fusion potential
This, if there were to be a starter vote I will vote Gen7 100%
for me its the opposite, i want the other two way more for cool fusion oppurtunities.
true, but everyone loves greninja so thats all theyre gonna see
Bruxish would be fine for me by now just cause there’s been so much sprite work done for it to show it off. It’s cursed but not in a bad way.
oh yeah gen 7 has the best starters
malamar has insane fusion potential
its better than miltank
malamar + spirtomb would be cool
Now show me something thats not a Reference
Since as a wise mod once said
Dont Vote s Mon for references
also i love using weather but im tired of using the same two weather mon in my fusions. and lurantis also brings solar blade.
Else I would Vote stuff like Marshadow so I could make SCP 106
uhhh so does torkoal wait nvm solar beam not blade
Thats kind of a reason atleast and I am in for some weather mons
Torkoal, Aurorus stuff like that
really hope it gets in
We have 1 pokemon for hail, not a very good one though
If we get UBs i hope we only get blacephalon and stakataka
But I still dont see a point that makes them way better than a Gogoat
Gogoat has cool fusions
It also works for a lot of references
Preevo is cute and final cool
Stats are usefull for fusing
Movepool is usefull for fusions
Abilitys can help for Terrain players or to get a Immunity against a Common type
So why not Gogoat
I’ll tell you why. And it’s one major reason. Are you ready?
are there really terrain players when there are no terrain setters?
honestly all the ubs would be sick except for celesteela
You haven’t made a Gogoat to the polls joke.
I’m just not interested
there isnt much when you take out referances and combos. pelipper is the only drizzle pokemon that has hurricane and brings a marine colour scheme that might make sailor fusions, how about that?
What?
I like alphabet
Alphabet yes
Yipee 
. . . Nvm. It was a thing in 2016
a b see...
Thats more of a reason a good one
Sailor and maybe even pirate fusions
Nice relaxing colors
You can do funny fusions
Its ability and moves are usefull
gogoat being a goat is all its got that is unique imo. ıt also has the beartic problem that no pokemon that sets up its preffered conditiıons is yet to be added. maybe after the tapus?
breh i wouldn't vote the tapus just to set terrains
Add the gen 8 starters !!1!1
Also doesn’t beartic work in rain too?
ı acrually would prefer that over the other starters but alas, no pokemon past gen 7 😢
I played quiet some times with Gogoats and it was always a big help imo
Also its the only Goat Pokemon giving us a lot to work with
Even more for the spriters
It gives interesting colors
Big set of horns
Grassy bush like fusion potential (we only have that with Grotle)
I was talking about slush rush being a reason for adding it since no pokemon in the game has it. also we have plenty of swift swim pokemons and beartic doesnt benefit from rain that much, no water stab, thunder or hurricane
I mean I can live with you not likeing it I only try to maybe show you its potential
It being the only goat pokemon is big, I give you that.
Also here are some fusions I found online and Imagine what our Talented Spriters could do
Agree to disagree then.
Still thanks for takeing your time
Also honestly why does literally noone in this channel talk about noivern?
Gogoat needs to get in. The Pokémon company has forgotten about our boi
This might of changed but last time I heard they aren’t even in any game past X and Y.
I do
Also I have propaganda of it
- probably most of us did vote it already
Yeah they werent in a game until gen 9
Yup, they are in SV
It just surprised me is all
Why use propaganda for an already super popular pick?
Thats probably the reason
To make sure it gets the votes
Thats Y I have Propaganda
Goomy propaganda, vote or he'll remain angery
I still wish I could art.
tbh I never actually used gogoat since we had that 2 starter thing and megas in xyz. I did 3 playtroughs, had a grass starter in 2 and mega abomasnow in 1.
Mightyena propaganda for your soul
mightyena fan based
Maybe try to use it a bit maybe you like it more🤷
Vote Regi to get Dwayne added to the game
Man I can't art either, but I've been working hard, starting with easy sprites I made the goomtorb, and a few more
I have one Poochy pic on my phone lol
The Voltorb one is my favorite. So simple but so on point
what pokemon you would fuse with tyranitar to get greymon? maybe arcanine? also would get rock head flare blıtz and wild charge.
Bastiodon maybe
Charizard or Dragonite. I know those fusions are already possible but I think the aesthetics makes the most sense with one of those
my first instinct was chreizard too but stripes makes me think arcanine
I could see it definitely
Simplicity is a core facet of Voltorbs design (and goomys tbh) the design captures the Less is More philosophy of both designs
It's really well made
Thank you, him and wooper are the two in most proud of
I did an arcanine one already, at least arcanine as head
GUMSHOOS
WE NEED GUMSHOOS
Yes
No💀
Who would you fuse Gumshoos with to make Dick Gumshoe from ace attorney
dayumn that look sick!
throh or conkulderr if they were in
real question is what would you fuse gumshoo with to make Columbo
Mr. Mime
Thats a three for me what do the other judges have to say?
yeah probably a psychic type. maybe hypno?
used to be 2. didnt see any convincing arguements for it and seen so many convincing arguements for other mon that it got bumped down to 1.
luxray and chandelure fusions look sick tho
I gave Noivern a 4. Sick mon with a lot of potential
You really have a weird and special taste my guy
Goomy is my boy
They are all just in costumes
What i like the most is comboing the stats, moves, types and the ability. Its what i like the most about making fusions. Like trying to make best possible rock head pokemon or a drizzle pokemon that gets all the moves and types that benfits from rain, best possible technician move etc. when a mon doesnt have something like that or its fusions doesnt seem like they could provide that even if i like the pokemon I wont vote for it in this game.
reminder to vote escavalier
I'm 100% in it for the visual design ngl
So you only go for fighting and make the strongest mon?
But dont you miss a lot of awesome fusions and designgs than
Even putting my obscene Lycanroc bias aside, I believe Lycanroc has a pretty high chance of making it in, in which case I will need propaganda for a new mon, but i don't know exactly which one
I've got some options, what's yall favorite out of these?
Archeops
Beheeyem
Clawitzer
Drampa
Drapion
Durant
Eelektross
Excadrill
Mienshao
Noivern
Vikavolt
ask me for close up of one of the fusions also ADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Clawitzerrrr!!!!
The best choice isn't on the list sadly
Noivern needs it even tho its a super likely mon
Also maybe Gogoat pls
I wanted to not overlap with anyone else
there are some i use for solely the design, but i usually prefer not to regret using them. like i really like how milotic+ninetales looks but probably shouldnt have given it drought its water moves were super weak. there are so many fusions in this game that cool looking AND super strong fusions are plenty.
Have you considered Goodra head fusions? (Goodra's potential movepool is also pretty diverse)
I mean the Drought thingg is on you tho
And the game isnt even hard maybe jump over your shadow its not a game were you need gods to run thru
I'm working my way up to more complex fusions, hopefully I'm up to goodra and custom sprites by the time they're confirmed
I have. As I have said before escavalier and accelgor might make cool combos. also with its water moves, thunder and hydration its might be pretty good in a rain team fused with a water or electric type. but its not in my top 20, there are just so many other pokemon i want.
So after getting 2 answers, Clawitzer and Noivern, RNG has decided on Clawitzer!
Its not hard but thats not why im making strong pokemon. making strong pokemon, deternmining the best possible fusion, creating combos etc. is fun.
watch Clawitzer making it before lycanroc
Understandable
I can still recommend to go for some runs were you only go for designgs you like
honestly I dont understand why we need good fusions statwise we already have shedinja bisharp and slaking/regigigas without their awful abilities
This discussion should probably go into #playthrough-talk
why not make more
thats fair, but why sacrifice fusions that could look awesome to get mediocre looking ones that do well in an already easy game?
the core of the discusson was to discuss whetever to vote for pokemon with good moves, stats etc. or to vote more for the design.
i voted for cool abilities that we don't have access to
and for pokemon types that we are lacking
im kinda voting for a mix of both anyway, it needs to be good enough while having enough potential
You mean good grass types?
yeah, if its gonna be good it should at least look good
there are plenty of fusions that look awesome AND are super strong. no need to use a weak fusion with good design when you have strong fusions with also good designs.
Please everyone vote for Skitty so I can dedicate all my spriting skills to 1680 more cats
We already have cats
Ah, okey, it just seemed like it was drifting away from that
where my lurantis fans at
right here
Great choices, but for my taste I’d sneak Skitty and Delcatto in
no
Welp if you know my taste better than me welp
what pokemon would you even fuse with delcatty? cant think any combo or referance other than "delcatty but with new colour pallete"
The answer is always Goodra harr harr 🙂
Here !
I guess. ıt can be a hairless cat and have a snail shell et the end of its tail.
yoo mareanie top 20
golisopod but no necrozma? remember NGS stands as one
i mean he has xyz on the name but there is no zygarde there
bro i dont want it either but hows your name gonna be XYZ team member but you wont have zygarde on your list? 
replace hoopa with zygarde and its based
W list
didnt see any hoopa supporters before but i guess it can make cool genie fusions.
Don't ask too many questions 😂
Dead chat calls for Goodra gif
He'll definitely make it, don't worry.
On the other hand: "VOTE EXPLOUD!!"
Its a giant Wyvern
Ok you have 7
Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:
- they're good bois
- we need more speedy rock types
- we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
- A great mix of cute and cool
- Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
- a lot of possible cool fusions
how would lycanroc even work? would there have to be 2 sprites each fusion for the different forms?
Im not sure which one, but the spriters can use whichever one
Maybe they do one stats is head ones body and one is unfused
They're great!
i mean how would you vote 4 on anything
I'd guess it'll be just one lycanroc when unfused, but spriters can use whichever design they want
the max is 3
Isn't that an option? Or does it go till 3?
It's been a while that i filled in the list
There's 4 options, 0 being the first
Okay, then i voted 3
Meanwhile, while a fellow exploud fan is here
Did a quick sketch last night for Exploud/gengar. The jumpscaring little guy
It is expanding
Imagine this fusion sneaking up on you in the middle of the night in pure darkness...before they jump out at you and essentially let out the THX noise with the force of a jetplane engine at you moments later.
Also the funny thing is heard one guy legit say "any pokemon that get in have to pass the Lopunny and Gardevoir test to be allowed in". Aka "does it fuse well with them".
Exactly!! I felt it matched the mischievous nature of gengar pretty well
literally any pokemon looks good with gardevoir
i would be happy if it doesn't get ruined by miltank too much
I 100% am up for Mienshao. It + lopunny = Chun-li bun.
lmao
if i were to make a sprite base for propoganda, which would yall wanna see?
Mienshao allows for tons of proper fighting game character fusions.
exactly
Also Mienshao allows for Kung Fu Panda meme fusions.
Mienshao + Ursaring = Po
It wouldn't be right to have this and not have the deer as well.
I like it. really encapsulates his joy and spunk
But yeah, you could do the entirety of Kung Fu Panda 1-3's with Mienshao.
yeah
Could also do Mienshao + Luxray = Tai Lung for maximum fun.
ADDDDDDDDDDDDXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
tho Pangoro is in the vote as well
Vote for both then.
Thank you for this blessing
Weirdly enough I've wanted Mienshao since the beginning
Just think the mink is neat
Mienshao fusions for KFP results:
- Pangoro for Po
- Scyther for Mantis
- Arbok or such for Viper
- Primeape or another monke for Monkey
- bird mon for Crane
- Persian for Tigress
- Luxray for Tai Lung
- Raticate for Master Shi Fu
- another birdmon for Shen
- Taurous for Kai
But if anything for the game, I was missingno was actually made into a real pokemon. And adjusted with actual design that fits the water/flying stuff it's stuck with.
If only for the insane fusions it could have. And also the idea of a cthulu-tier birdmon people can barely comprehend seeing.
I mean, you mainly find it on the shore of an island with such a typing.
In the event pangoro doesn't make it Snorlax probably could fit the bill as well
Crane would probably be with Fearow
I know the perfect mon for Viper
Milotic
Yes Gogoat
you spelled legendary wrong 
Lets vote day Goroc
Here's a few fusions I'm doing that are still a WIP. Also for the third one, should it be Shuppet or Mimikyu?
Yes, vote both so we both can be happy 😄
Is the first one a Chara Reference?
(Tipp maybe use Kirlia for it)
Ngh- I can't hold my guzzlord agenda any longer!
id say mimikyu if you add the eyes on the bottom
Where?
Yes, and I chose Smoochum because they have the same body shape
i kinda wonder will the starter set for gen567 be in this series if possible?
Well cuz of the Undertale artstile
Probably depends on the way you see them
I am now convinced frisk and chara are just chonky goobers
Nooo
is it not a blatant misuse of power for the staff to promote certain pokemon in the poll?
no??? theyre not forcing people to vote for them
vote bruxish!!!11!111!1
i know lol mostly a joke :P
oh sry lol
dw abt it lol
vote sharpedo
Auto gen sprite 
Perish
2 people can choose a mon from this list I should fuse (you can also suggsest the other half)
Aurorus and dhelmise
meloetta and toxicroak
seviper + golisopod
meloetta/aurorus sounds gorgeous
According to scholars, this tier list represents the most authentic opinion
not the tapus ☠️
You like legis
Are you 5?
oh right i didn't notice the cloud men either
@hushed mantle @sacred lantern @livid ridge @thorny ferry
(Btw the other half didnt need to be from the list lol)
You all still stay at the same suggsestion
then aurorus/bruxish or bruxish/aurorus 
Your first one was better😂
legeandary
A vote for Zangoose and Seviper is a vote for Anime Rivals everywhere
Exactly
I'm team zangoose but the snake comes with us
they both suck 
We are a package deal
Actually I got a small idea
Maybe some kind of Plesio
with lips
the formula for success
Ngl seviper fusions could be pretty awesome @thorny ferry do a seviper bruxish fusion
Will do
(Edit: nevermind, Mat's got it)
Oooh and a seviper with like way to many teeth and a super long mouth something eldritch horror like.
rn I have Cosmog/bruxish, Dusclops/bruxish and bruxish/seviper in the list
i like strong pokemon 💪
My real love is whismers line I love exploud and he could make a lot of cool fusions
Legendary doesnt mean strong
what is shaymin doing up there then
I'll do more Goomy sprites once I'm approved to be a spriter, and maybe after I do psyrunt for my wife
wtf why do these actually look good
Vote for Regis and Hippos
Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:
- they're good bois
- we need more speedy rock types
- we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
- A great mix of cute and cool
- Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
- a lot of possible cool fusions
Slurpuff
Slurbuff
oh right how would it evolve
Probably level up
See that's the fun part
We don't know! Could be level up, could be something entirely new!
probably just level up ig
That would be the easiest option
Finally made one of these, though my no's are mostly personal preference as I know many do like some in the no's! I just couldn't see myself spriting them, or they take up too many slots, etc but doesn't mean they aren't good
what about the missing ones
sees Lycanroc in the far top spot
happy doggo noises
Neutral enough to just not feel much either way (also didn't want to add every single one to a category for space saving)
a
No diancie 😭😭
And Goodra so low 😦
Gastrodon: “people usually consider us mid”
Never
torkoal aint even on it 😔
That means neutral, but it's a good idea! I like the idea of diancie head especially
Hooray
Not so bad
Torkoal is still cool, there are a lot of smoke and rustic stove/fireplace options for him (also +turtle!)
Tortoise*
Where's druddigon 
Based list tho
Sadly, the untold story is that regigigas escaped from its children to get milk
Gogoat/Regigias for Milk Drink Regigigas
🤔
why when people mention a gogoat fusion milk drink gets mentioned too?
miltank is right there
I think some people are REALLY into goat milk
like what's so special about recover 2
you could mention the actually useful move horn leech but nooo, milk drink
because we can get it without miltank. i dont want that abomination anywhere near my mons
recover?!?!?
Mostly because milk was mentioned prior but gogoat is a cool fusion
That's a actual move in pokemon?
yep
It's a healing move, but why not pick Horn leech over milk drink? It heals and deals damage
It's cursed.
One time a friend ran a Pokémon rp. And another had a Gogoat that knew that move. Issue was he uh. . . The rpmod forgot a very important fact that made the whole thing a dumpster fire.
I'm surprised to learn that Milk drink is like Gogoat's signature move now (according to bulbapedia at least)
Still a inferior version of Horn leech
Plus he learns milk drink super late, at around nearly level 60 does he get to learn that move, he learns horn leech before milk drink, which around like 50-ish
So by the time he finally learns milk drink, it's already pointless having it when you already have learned a self healing move, levels before milk drink, since Horn leech heals around the same amount and it deals damage, in which milk drink doesn't damage
Aight good night yall and remember
Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:
- they're good bois
- we need more speedy rock types
- we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
- A great mix of cute and cool
- Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
- a lot of possible cool fusions
What will you do if it gets added? What’s next for you? Me personally I’m moving on to either baltoy or Torkoal.
flashbang
I decided earlier today that my next object of propaganda is gonna be clawitzer
think fast chucklenuts
I’d help whoever I think is deserving of help
(Or my fellow bug friends and petlil)
if torkoal gets added ill just switch to clawitzer or escavalier
Do escavalier, it needs it.
more like flashnuke
t h i s
i want all the ultra beast to be in the game they have unqiue designs and are cool
My guess is 1-2 will get in. 3 if you consider necrozma one
also, lurantis + escavalier can have close combat + contrary 
Still it’s a nice dream
if you hope you can get what you want
so just hope
Lurantis also knows superpower (considering that I.F. pokemon use Gen 7 movepools) via TM
Here's my list of pokemon that I would be excited for just based on vibes and favorites 
Tyrantrum is in! 
It sure is!
What ones would yall be hyped for 
The ones in the top are like who I really want ngl
Slurpuff, exploud, drampa and diggersby
Meloetta and Lurantis (also lilligant as well)
( This was made before Tyrantrum was announced )
Regi’s, XYZ, Gogoat, Torkoal, Escavalier, Croagunk, Claydol, Treavant
my guzzlord agenda approves
w turtonator enjoyer
It's the best Ultra Beast there is
I like the funny turtle 
Lycanroc, Aurorus, Silvally, Sigilyph, and Oricorio probably the most, or at least those I would be the most excited to sprite!
Regi’s provide triple fusion, each offers new textures and variations on materials, they make sense as Regigigas is already in and there’s even a puzzle that just screams their name. Registeel could do futuremon, ice great sculpture designs, and more
torkoal, clawitzer and escavalier are in good, based opinions 
I've been really enjoying seeing the Tyrantrum fusions people have been working on 
fr im so happy it got in
Clawitzer is just a cool looking pokemon 
What Gogoat fusions would you be excited for 🤔
gogoat + rhyperior
📝
I forgot to put Audino on the biased list, but oh well
I'm not redoing the entire list just to move one Pokemon up
Last regi for at least an hour but if you think about the Regi’s like this it opens a lot of fusion potential as well
Ignore the last two. They’re adopted. Lol.
I like regis but more The XYZ mons sorry
I like more the sun/moon quartet
I very like more they than regis but we just have 20 slot necrozma for my why not
I have at least half of the sun/moon mons on the list a 3/3
If no Ultra Beast gets voted in I will be both sad and mad
I just want at least one of my biased list mons to get in
Lets go surpuff!1!1
I'd be so happy if torkoal or escavalier get in but i dont think its likely
Escavalier would be great fusion material actually
I am still hoping for necrozma, it would be weird for a pokemon like that that fuses canonically isnt in it lol
Preferably the Cinccino line ( #1 fave mon ) Slurpuff + Altaria, Combee, Audino, or Manaphy + Lilligant
escavalier with all like knight fusions that can be done would be cool too
I'd like at least one of my personal fusion combos to be added for a personal run
Because I'd try spriting if Altaria and Slurpuff gets in so I can make a evil looking fusion of the two
My top picks are all of the UBs, Golisopod, Zygarde and Scolipede (although they got in)
Gallade and Escavalier
Imagine... ( or even Gardevoir as a replacement because of it's japanese name sounding like Sir Knight )
Xergia and Xershiram my beloved

It’s because I really like them more than anything else but UBs and Zygarde could both make some great and distinct fusions because of how unique they look compared to anything else
Imagine head fusions of Kartana onto other pokemon for instance
So vote for they
Garbodor and Guzzlord would be so cool

Y does everyone want UBs?
I just personally want Guzzlord only
Did I miss something?
Since when do people like them?
I like them
The Jenga Block UB would be cool too
But I might like paradox pokemon more
Already did. Xerneas/Yveltal were 3's for me early on
I just wish some of the future paradox mons were more creative design wise
I think there's a hidden theme to them, I might have it figured out but I need to see terrakion to be sure
Well, at least for the paradox blades
I just love them. Like I said though because of how unusual they are every single one has a lot of mileage for making distinctive fusions.
Kartana could be used to make origami mons, Nihilego canonically can “fuse” to pokemon to control them, Buzzwole can give you either insane bodybuilders or gory horror monsters, etc.
There might be a theme, but I mean mons like Iron Jugulis and Iron Thorns ( Imagine Iron Thorns looked a little more like the Mecha TTar from the Pokestudio )
Ew
what did u vote for huh?
Not the Regis, they offer nothing
what'd u vote for huh???
Why?
I wanna know so I can critique
"Nothing"
Meloetta is so damn cute
Slurpuff, a fairy type with an incredibly diverse move pool
I think they want to know how versatile you picks would be compared to the regis since you said they “offer nothing”
I don’t like that spirit ice one. There are way better fusion ideas for a spiritomb fused with Regice
Thats just one example tho
Based
ah hell nah I get that unburden + belly drum go brrr but I raise you this
I like Slurpuff though
Those evo methods don’t exist in if
So all they gotta do is add an item? You know you can get trade evos right?
I need it fused with an Altaria
Yeah because IF is offline only it gets rid of all the infuriating trade evos
you can just consume the items instead of having to trade for the evos
Oh ok
Have you played the game at all?
I suppose it’s gonna end up evolving by level
Yes but I dont use trade evos
There's also poipole that can evolve before the first gym
Anyway the regis have more design potential than slurpuff, Giant f*cking titans
You mean like regigigas?
Not really but they’re cool too
I personally think they have an issue with looking the same, just like the Genies
@white meadow help lmao
Design wise, slurpuff can make cake mons, on top of its cracked move pool
I'd like for people to prove me wrong though
Y does the Yveltal/Tyrantrum remind me of the Indominus Rex
?
"Cake based pokemon" Thats such a tiny catagory
There were so many pokemon in the list that I just rated basset on personal preference but Slurpuff is honestly a pretty good pick. It’s a cute vase for body fusions and head fusions give you a candy aesthetic that could be taken in a million directions
LADIES AND GENTS WE NEED TO PUSH GLALIE OR AVALUGG WE NEED ANOTHA ICE TYPE POKÉMON
Sure wait
Ok, so, slurpuff or the regis who is greater?
I'd love for Avalugg to be in!
Which means that's a design niche that no one fills
WHAT ABOUT SPHEAL???? An Ice type with thick fat
It’s bigger than “rock man”, “ice man”, “steel man”
SPHEAL TOO I FORGOT THEY WETE IN THE VOTE
I voted Spheal only for Walrein <3
Cyrogonal is probably the best ice type on the poll for fusing
Oops I dropped my agenda
its fine
Walrein is such an awesome looking mon
Cyrogonal has crazy stats for fusing
Lets calm down everyone take some candy
I voted spheal at 2/3 only for spheal itself. Give us the roundmons
Walrein! 
I will take more than two candy 
Both arent bad for fuseing to be fair
can do a lotta fun stuff with sealeos stache too
Also this dot triggers my OCD
You lost your hands lol
Its scp 330
||You can take 2 pieces of candy every 24 hours if you take more your hands fall off||
The Regis are kinda stale, poor move pool, all they got to offer is defense, in the event of a triple fusion it goes down like a sack of potatoes to karate chop
They’re both way better than some of the filler on the list like those six near identical monkeys that would take up a quarter of the slots
Demonic creature! 
Yes
I could do quiet some SCP references with it so I wouldnt be mad if it gets in
I got a sudden need to bounce spheal like a basket ball for some reason
What do you think Garbodor would be great to be fused with guys? 👀
Marshadow 
Here
I need some love for the Trash Deity ( Maybe I could make a PTCG reference with a certain deck )
my little brother game garbador a 3 💀
@hushed mantle @radiant briar
Me too honestly ( another one of my alltime faves )
Tentacruel could be connected to poluted sea makeing it floating trash
Blastoise could have straws and stuff
Torterra so it becomes a junkyard
Cool list! 
Ball
“Too many slots to consider being worth” is all of the ones that got voted in 
funny
There's also darmanitan, but he needs no explanation and I'm very sure he'll make it in
Nah you done my boi slurpuff dirty
W, sandygast respect is on here
Alright, your Garbodor ideas are pretty sweet guys!