pif-hoenn-discussion

[upper echo]

And the (non) red lobster

[white meadow]

I dont think so cuz of the contests
Also its weird how they always talked about amaura
And specifically said they found fossils in KANTO

[sturdy breach]

They didn't announce anything together because it wasn't decided on. And the fossils of a gen aren't linked together

[lusty oxide]

I changed my vote for arourus to 3 I want refrigerate

[upper echo]

They usually are found in the same spot but are version exclusive

They are counterparts and the times which they aren't they are a choice between one and the other

[sturdy breach]

A mod did confirm that this did not mean Amaura wouldn't/couldn't get in

[upper echo]

I mean it's unlikely as If it did they probably would've announced them together as fossils are linked

[sturdy breach]

I can only assume they would want to not set the expectation that counterparts will immediately get in

[white meadow]

Still dont think so
Maybe they come next week and say "WE FOUND A FOSSIL IN JOHTO"

[sturdy breach]

As such, nothing else is decided on as far as we know. And nothing is excluded

[upper echo]

Could be

I doubt it but possible

[sturdy breach]

For example: Archeops is pretty popular in this chat.

But Carracosta is not, at all

Or at least not spoken of

Then you don't want to set the expectation that counterparts get in if 1 turns out to be massively popular, and the other isn't

[upper echo]

My point was they are counterparts and if both would've gotten in its likely they would've announced them together as they are counterpart mons

Doesn't help that the Ice Dino isn't exactly the most popular mon

[lost pebble]

Shame serperior isnt in the game. Imagine the fusions we could have with contrary

[upper echo]

Nothing beyond that

[raw bison]

I mean the vote is still ongoing

[sturdy breach]

With the way they are announcing mons,votes being able to change, setting the precedent that they aren't linked, we could see an announcement for Aurorus in 2 weeks time due to a shift in votes because people think they should both get in

It's anyone's game atm really

[upper echo]

Why would they choose a counterpart mon in the first place

Kinda rigging the polls

[sturdy breach]

Because it was popular most likely

[raw bison]

Aurorus and all the other fossils are as much up in the air as any other mon.

[upper echo]

So were many others

[sturdy breach]

I'm not under the assumption that counterparts should get in. I rather prefer that the Regi's aren't in BECAUSE Regigigas is already there. I don't care much about Cresselia either.

You might as well go as far as: well, if every pseudo is in except for 2, might as well add those as well then

[upper echo]

But I mean they did choose a counterpoint mon as their staff pic

[raw bison]

A probably for situations like the Archaeops/Carracosta counterparts - Archaeops has a lot of strong appeal, while Carracosta is...a sea turtle, instead of a regular turtle. One might be really popular, one might be a hard pass, and they should be allowed to be split, but if people want them to go in together they can adjust their votes accordingly on reveal, like I did

[upper echo]

Some people did give that reasoning

I couldn't care less about counterparts getting in outside of certain mons like excavalier which needs the other to evolve

[sturdy breach]

There's quite some pokemon missing counterparts, I really like they are unlinking them. saying reuniting counterparts is not something that is high on their list

[raw bison]

That's fine and you're entitled to your opinion, but wanting the parallels is a valid stance, and Aurorus/Tyrantrum are arguably one of the best opposing pairs out there - both have a lot to offer

[minor mantle]

I didn't even know mons have counterparts
I just imagine them as one big blob of a species

[upper echo]

If excavalier gets in but accelgor doesn't it's not gonna make sense

[sturdy breach]

Fossils are counterparts because you can usually only get 1 or the other. Others appear in just 1 of the 2 games (think Zangoose and Seviper)

Come to think of it, why are Zangoose and Seviper linked in the poll...

[upper echo]

The counterparts are done weirdly in polls

[raw bison]

To use my ~spreadsheet formula~ having a counterpart in game is worth a single point, but not the whole shebang

[upper echo]

They're linked but the mons who need each other to evolve aren't

[minor mantle]

Oh I get it now why it's an issue

[lost pebble]

I just want staraptor/gastrodon to get in. You know whos most likely not getting in? Cosmog

[upper echo]

Eh cover legendary

[lost pebble]

Thats. Literally 4-5 slots in one go

[lost pebble]

Type: null would be better tbh (than cosmog)

[upper echo]

Worse arceus

[sturdy breach]

tbh I hope they make an executive decision to not only add 'Cool' mons

[lost pebble]

Imagine arceus/type:null for lore implications

[upper echo]

Poor accelgor

[lost pebble]

True! I want gastrodon bc double gastrodon is always hilarious. Double surf water absorb go brrr

[upper echo]

I doubt excavalier is getting in tho

[sturdy breach]

Because I have a hunch that people are voting for 'Cool' mons like crazy and not so much the cute mons that also have potential

[upper echo]

I think that'll happen

[raw bison]

Cosmog is honestly another good example about why some counterparts aren't linked - Solgaleo and Lunala as just the two would get more votes than the full set of four because people don't like the redundancy in that many slots

[lost pebble]

I want staraptor bc childhood attachment to my stupidly overleveled staraptor who swept Cynthia bc I didn’t know how to switch party members so by the time it was e4 time it was lvl 90

[upper echo]

It is a split Evo tho

[lost pebble]

I would love cosmog for the space theme if it wasnt for the slots

[upper echo]

It's like adding only scyther

[sturdy breach]

It shouldn't even be an evo for games other than SM/USUM

[upper echo]

Or only adding polywrath

[lost pebble]

Minior is cheaper and therefore has more support, ive seen

[upper echo]

Nah us minior propagandists are working overtime to make it seem that way

[lost pebble]

That too, o7

[sturdy breach]

Random slug, coming through

[upper echo]

There are some Mons which have no chance so no point of propagandaing for them

[lost pebble]

Respect. I would try to spread propaganda but i cant draw, most i can do is daily “vote for staraptor/type:null/gastrodon” messages

[lost pebble]

Durant. Brutinx. Heatmor

[raw bison]

I'm not saying they should split the Sun/Moon legendaries up but Im using it to illustrate a point - if you told me that to get Archaeops I'd also have to have Carracosta in the game it'd weigh Archaeops down because of carracosta taking up two slots for another water turtle pokemon that doesn't even really bring any cool new mechanics

[upper echo]

Don't put the ant eater and the ant with bruxish

[sturdy breach]

Pidove must have the most hated 2nd and 3rd stage evolutions of any bird

[lost pebble]

Four slots, technically. Remember pre evos of the fossils

[robust geyser]

CArracosta is awesome though

[upper echo]

It's a very different situation tho
One is a split Evo one are counterparts

[lusty oxide]

Bruxish is a good pick

[robust geyser]

Unfezant is cool tho

[sturdy breach]

Doesn't bring much fusion wise that Blastoise doesn't do better (imho)

[raw bison]

I mean but Archaeop I would consider worth it's slots, while Carracosta would be underwhelming

[lost pebble]

Bruxish would be good for cursedness. One word. Lickitung

[lusty oxide]

Gotta love tranquil

[upper echo]

There's good reasons why some should stay together and some apart

[robust geyser]

there are some overlapping, but carracosta being a sea turtle as well as having a whole armor vibe i think they are different enough

[sturdy breach]

His point being, if you voted Carracosta a 0 or a 1, Archeops a 3. If they were linked together Carracosta would weight Archeops' score down to a 2 at best

[lost pebble]

Do we have any contrary mons? Something i also take into account is abilities and movepool

[cinder oasis]

Weather mons are what I want tbh

[sturdy breach]

Vote Lurantis 🙂

[upper echo]

[raw bison]

I'm not arguing that they should be split I'm using it to point out that pairing things up can cause them to be weighed down, so if they don't have a good reason to be paired up (like evolution mechanics, for example) they shouldn't be, so that way the votes can make the call

[sturdy breach]

Then I might have replied to the wrong person, sorry 🙂

[upper echo]

I'm saying the example you gave was a horrible one

[lost pebble]

Weather setters would be good. Or more trick room. Lets be thankful some gens havent made it into the pool. Im looking at you, SV

[sturdy breach]

SV is amazing design wise wdym...

I want my pink gremlin with the oversized hammer

[lost pebble]

We legit would not survive palafin or rekieleki or goldengo

[upper echo]

Dunno the worm is peak

[lost pebble]

That is the one i would want. Is everyone else who scares me lol

[sturdy breach]

Also weedcat

[lost pebble]

Transitor….

[lost pebble]

Flower trick

[cinder oasis]

After gen 7 most pokemon are pretty mid ngl, there aren't as many hits like previous gens but maybe that's just me

[upper echo]

Dragons maw Rah

[lost pebble]

Fishiouz rend

[sturdy breach]

Boom baby!

[upper echo]

Love that mon

[sturdy breach]

Probaby nostalgia talkin 🙂

[cinder oasis]

Strong jaw, fishious rend, stab

[upper echo]

A very nice departure from regular fossils

[lost pebble]

We dont need more tools to bully the bird trio with hahh

[upper echo]

Yes we do

[cinder oasis]

Maybe

Sword and shield suck though ngl

[lost pebble]

Fun fact. You can perish somg them with ease

[upper echo]

I don't use perish song so uhh

[lost pebble]

Hatterene would be a good addition ngl

[raw bison]

I'm literally just saying that Solgaleo and Lunala are getting fewer votes because cosmog and cosmoem are weighing them down, and that if you paired up pokemon together when they don't need to be paired then you'd be needlessly tying then together. If that's not conveying the point of "they're not pairing counterparts together automatically even if people feel like they belong" then I'm not sure what will. Imma peace out here before I get sassy about it

[cinder oasis]

Guh

[lost pebble]

Ye, just giving alternatives to rock slide for nuzlockes. Perish sog, destiny bond, endure+endeavor wobbufett, etc

[lost pebble]

I can see your point

[cinder oasis]

Rock type needs good moves so badly

[marble dagger]

yessss tyrantrum!!

[lost pebble]

Another rock slider for the birds-

[cinder oasis]

If you don't know the highest BP rock move is 50 power in smack down

[lost pebble]

Isnt rock slide 80?

[cinder oasis]

With 100 accurate

[lost pebble]

Head smash.

[cinder oasis]

There's not many that learn it or benefit from it

[lost pebble]

Nvm 80 accuracy

[lime sorrel]

Head Gash

[cinder oasis]

?

[lime sorrel]

Oh no a gash what will I do

[lost pebble]

Yikes

[upper echo]

I never argued if counterparts should not be separated if they are done for not great reasons
The only thing I pointed out was that you chose a bad example as they are a very different situation.

[lost pebble]

Ancient power

[cinder oasis]

Physical

[lost pebble]

Power gem- ah, lemme look

Rip, everything be 90 accuracy

[upper echo]

What's with Physical and having worse moves overall for attacking

[lost pebble]

Ok but garganacle with rock salt would join the list of pokemon to trivialize the bird trio with

[cinder oasis]

It's honestly only fighting that benefits from physical

[upper echo]

Tbh water and normal manages too

[cinder oasis]

Though there's not many fighting special attackers in the first place

[lost pebble]

And revival blessing. Or houndstone with last respects. whatever the f the evolution of primeapebis

[upper echo]

Same with ground

[lost pebble]

However the upside is that. Tinkaton. I love tinkaton

[cinder oasis]

Normal has hyper voice and water has surf and scald

[lost pebble]

We need more ice types though

[upper echo]

Water has waterfall

[gusty shuttle]

Wow we got a dinosaur!!

[cinder oasis]

80 bp

[upper echo]

Normal has return and frustration

[cinder oasis]

Frustration is lower than return but return is good

[lost pebble]

And ice gets freeze dry

[cinder oasis]

Ice spinner, freeze dry and ice beam

[lost pebble]

And ice beam

[upper echo]

Crab hammer
Liquidation
All good moves

Waterfall flinches
Liquid drops def

[cinder oasis]

Oh yeah wave crash as well, so ig physical water is better

[upper echo]

Nah they even

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[upper echo]

Water has scald and scald alone is enough

[cinder oasis]

Also poison physical is also kinda mid

[upper echo]

Poison jab and gunk shot pretty decent

30% poison is Nice

[cinder oasis]

Jab is outclassed by sludge bomb with higher BP and same poison rate at 30 and 80 accuracy isn't great

[clever atlas]

There's poison jab (tm not available in IF) and gunk shot (very scarcely learned)

[upper echo]

Gunk shot is literally better hydro pump

[cinder oasis]

True but 80 accuracy is still bad

[upper echo]

120 BP with a 30% poison chance

[white meadow]

They really should make Pjab available in IF

[upper echo]

Literally risk reward with a lot of reward

[cinder oasis]

Sludge bomb is more reliable with 30% poison anyways

[clever atlas]

As well as Rock slide or stone edge

[upper echo]

It's also weaker

[flat elk]

it might, if we include someone like crogunk & toxicroak

[upper echo]

It's just risk reward

[cinder oasis]

Theres also sludge wave

[cinder oasis]

In general I'd say special poison is better though

[upper echo]

Slightly stronger sludge bomb in return for less poisons

[white meadow]

I think if we get one more physical Poison type they maybe see a reason to add it since Scolipede for example is in now and normaly played with PJab

[upper echo]

I'd say they are even

[cinder oasis]

There's also belch which is better than gunk shot when eating a berry

[violet pawn]

also hits multiple targets and allies

[upper echo]

Belch sucks
Never mention it again

[cinder oasis]

That's sludge wave

[upper echo]

Sludge wave is almost never used in doubles anyways so I don't really care about it

[violet pawn]

yeah that's what I was saying

[lusty oxide]

Shuckle

[flat elk]

poison, ice, and bug really needs some buffs from pokemon in general

[upper echo]

Bug

[flat elk]

they did give ice a buff w/ snow and poison being good for fairy

[upper echo]

X scissor is kinda just meh

[cinder oasis]

Bug is just horrendous and poison and ice being mid

[lusty oxide]

Damn my message finally decided to send

[flat elk]

but poor poor bug 😦

[upper echo]

Having a 90% BP special move is just good

It's just bug as a type isn't great
So it needs more to compensate

[cinder oasis]

Bug type is the worst type out of the 18

[flat elk]

i think it countering fairy would make it somewhat better

[upper echo]

Why does fairy resist bug

[flat elk]

but like, fairy as a type is weird

[upper echo]

Literally kicking it while it's down

[cinder oasis]

Fairy is alright

[flat elk]

fairy in pokemon is considered to be like pixies or forest spirits?

[upper echo]

Fairy is great

[cinder oasis]

I meant that it's a good addition, it's the best type in the game tbh

[lusty oxide]

Yes fairy is very confused on what it is

[flat elk]

and the very vague light theme mixed in there

[cinder oasis]

Either steel or fairy is the best type

[flat elk]

steel is the best, but fairy and ground follow close behind

[upper echo]

I mean a bug literally killed the king of fairies

The whole reason why fairy is weak to poison is because a moth poisoned the king of fairies and killed him

[flat elk]

the idea is that these said "pixies" protect anything in the forest or area so i guess they think they can handle anything in said area??? i really dont know

[cinder oasis]

Fairy type are just cutesy pokemon or food

[upper echo]

Eh fairy is just magical stuff and pixie stuff

[steady mountain]

They’re just vaguely magic. There’s no hard and fast rules.

[lusty oxide]

The thing is not even gamefreak knows what fairy type is exactly

[upper echo]

They gotta lean more into the evil side of fairies

[cinder oasis]

Then dark/fairy or ghost/fairy

[upper echo]

Nah pure fairy

[cinder oasis]

That's not how they approach fairy type so I doubt it

[flat elk]

bug -> fairy
poison -> water
ice = water (in defense against each other)
these few changes would help balance the bad types a bit

[cinder oasis]

Poison super effective against water?

[upper echo]

Dunno tinkaton is evil

[flat elk]

pollution

[lusty oxide]

Yes ice type does need some resistances

[cinder oasis]

Sad that it's designed like that

[sturdy breach]

Water being the most obvious

[lusty oxide]

In temtem poison is also effective against water

[gusty shuttle]

Ice types is resistant to bug type
IRL

[upper echo]

Nah

[flat elk]

and then flying countering poison which sorta makes sense if poison becomes too powerful (imagine)

[upper echo]

There some insects that be surviving in snow

[cinder oasis]

Poison wouldn't be too powerful if that happens

[gusty shuttle]

Those are ice/bug

[flat elk]

specifically in temtem

[lusty oxide]

Honestly I feel the temtem type chart is much more balanced than Pokémon

[upper echo]

Nah they just bug
Just because something can survive in the cold doesn't make it ice type

[flat elk]

they have fewer types, so that makes some sense and grew up w/ pokemon

[upper echo]

Also more variety to ice areas the better

[gusty shuttle]

idk man I put my stuff in the freezer when I don't want literal larves spawning on it 😌

[flat elk]

problem is, bug is weak enough

[cinder oasis]

Ice should've resisted water and electric but whatever it won't change

[gusty shuttle]

that means the game is well polished
XDDDDDDDDDD end me

[flat elk]

resist elec?

[upper echo]

It's because the bugs can't Lay their eggs inside of the fridge as it's inaccessible

Also it matters on the bug

[lusty oxide]

I feel like bug could also work as a good offensive typing if it hits more types super effective

[gusty shuttle]

I said freezer, there's no ice in the fridge

Well there is ice in my fridge but that's because I'm stupid

[flat elk]

grass, fairy, psychic, dark, and what else?

[upper echo]

but like ladybugs can live during some parts of winter

[gusty shuttle]

Ledyba ice/bug confirmed!!!!!!

[flat elk]

maybe good against other bugs? lol

[upper echo]

It's already bad enough defensively

[flat elk]

fair

[cinder oasis]

Just add fairy resistance and super effective and it'll be better

[flat elk]

by default, ya

[upper echo]

The main problem with bug Is its resisted by like 50% of the types

[flat elk]

gives it enough of a use to counter things

[gusty shuttle]

bugs super-effective against dragon
mosquitos are the most common cause of death in the world for humans, and we are as big as dragons to them

[cinder oasis]

Womp womp

[flat elk]

for reference (i like visual guides sry)

[lusty oxide]

You know dragon type also acts as a reptile type

That’s why it’s weak to ice

[upper echo]

Tbh making bug super effective to fairy would bump it up a lot also make it resist it too ig

All imma say is poison went from horrible to ok with the addition of fairy

[flat elk]

very true

[cinder oasis]

Water is honestly too good but there's nothing that really makes sense to give it an extra weakness

[upper echo]

I wouldn't say too good tbh

[flat elk]

how come ghost resist bug? i keep forgetting that exists

[gusty shuttle]

make it weak to fight
A true martial artist can punch water and decompose it on a molecular level

[upper echo]

Ghost resists things it shouldn't

[flat elk]

poison and bug

[upper echo]

I'd just make water weak to poison and leave it at that

[gusty shuttle]

GUYS water weak to psychic
It makes so much sense, water would be the easiest thing to control with the mind

[flat elk]

poison makes some sense i guess cause u cant poison something thats dead

[upper echo]

Poison resisting bug

[cinder oasis]

Why wouldn't poison be super effective against psychic? Being poisoned affects the mind severely

Though that would make psychic kinda bad though but whatever

[gusty shuttle]

Why isn't poison the best offensive type? Poison just kills most of the stuff

[flat elk]

psychic's weaknesses are based on phobias: the dark, bugs, and ghosts

[flat elk]

true lol

[white meadow]

might as well include flying because fear of heights :trol:

[gusty shuttle]

I have thalassophobia
Make water effective on psych

[flat elk]

flying is more birds, but maybe

[white meadow]

birds can be scary

[flat elk]

its not a common phobia tho which is wut im guessing they wanted to choose from

i forgot this is the vote channel, vote cake dog or meteor i guess lol

[gusty shuttle]

new poison -> grass, psychic, flying, fight, water, normal

[fallow drift]

What is everyone’s favourite Pokémon

[gusty shuttle]

I solved it, thank me later

[gusty shuttle]

Pidove

[flat elk]

chandelure & appletun, but 1 isnt an option here and the other is already in

[fallow drift]

Oh nice I really like Lucario even it’s shiny form and mega it just stands out to me the most👍🏻

[upper echo]

Maractus

And the ice cream cone

[fallow drift]

lol

[flat elk]

idk bout the shiny, but the other two ya i getcha

[fallow drift]

Yea thanks

[upper echo]

Ice cream cone genuinely has a better reason then most mons to be added and that's that it sets weather

[flat elk]

and food fusions, we dont got many pokemon that can do that

[fallow drift]

I kinda like chin pao aswell

[royal drum]

I'd say hawlucha for the voting round
Outside if its: tinkaton

[white meadow]

abomasnow does that too and it doesn't take 3 slots

[sturdy breach]

I would rather have the other fossil or the tree for that.

[gusty shuttle]

And it's not an ice cream cone

[upper echo]

Abomasnow is the bulkier choice

[white meadow]

which is nice

[fallow drift]

NAH NAH THE BIG CHUNGUS

[sturdy breach]

Aurorus is the better choice cause of Refrigerate 🙂

[upper echo]

And the Ice cream hits harder

[flat elk]

u want a pigeon, its practically the same thing as wanting an ice cream cone but like... worse

[fallow drift]

ITS SELF…..MR FATTY SNORLAX

[upper echo]

Ha weather setter

[sturdy breach]

HA is easy to get tho

[gusty shuttle]

At least it's not a literal living food with a straw
Well, I hope it's not

[flat elk]

honestly, we need any more ice types in here. only 10...

[fallow drift]

For some reason I think it’s a good choice making magikarp learn hydro pump

[upper echo]

I'm not doing the ha method which requires you to already have a ha mon

[fallow drift]

Because It only learnt one move “splash”

[sturdy breach]

That's not my problem, doesn't make Aurorus less of a weather setter

[upper echo]

It's either that or the glitchfest that is ha mon

[white meadow]

you could literally give magikarp judgment and it would still suck

[upper echo]

Yes it does as it's less accessible

[flat elk]

i dont understand wuts going on now

[sturdy breach]

There's an easy way to get it, so no not really

[white meadow]

ha mons aren't even that hard to get

[fallow drift]

Bro same I getcha wats Goin on lol

[flat elk]

wut is a ha mon?

[sturdy breach]

Hidden Ability (HA)

[white meadow]

hidden ability pokemon

[upper echo]

It's either ha method or glitchy ha ball

[flat elk]

oh

[fallow drift]

What’s that is it rare for a Pokémon to have or?!

[upper echo]

Luck into it or use a special ball/ha method

[flat elk]

alolan ninetails would be nice to have here in as an option for this vote

[sturdy breach]

There's only certain ways to get a pokemon with it's hidden ability. it's not that hard though

[upper echo]

Which all have their downsides

[sturdy breach]

It sure as hell shouldn't make a pokemon less of a good choice for fusions

[fallow drift]

All right thanks I kinda wanted to know that I was really curious

[upper echo]

Yes it does
As it's just less accessible from the get go
You can get the ability you want for the other setters right away

[fallow drift]

We gotta admit this is a sick fusion

[gusty shuttle]

btw people voting a basic-ass t-rex with nothing special and judging me because I want a basic-ass pigeon with nothing special

[sturdy breach]

Let's drop this 'discussion' as it's really not getting anywhere when we disagree on a fundamental level

[upper echo]

There's already pidgey

[flat elk]

kiiiiiinda different

[gusty shuttle]

Pidgey is a special pigeon not a basic-ass pigeon

[upper echo]

It's pretty basic

[fallow drift]

Respect Pidgey

[flat elk]

its the next basic

[gusty shuttle]

Pidgey creates storms by flying. Or was it spearow?
Pidove is just a pigeon
Special by being the only one not special

[upper echo]

Spearow

Pidgeotto is just good at flying

[sturdy breach]

Pidove is a basic ass pidgeon with ugly evo's I dunno what more I can say about it.

[gusty shuttle]

Anyway Pidove is the only normal, respectful animal in a world of pocket monsters SHUT UP

Pidove represents us
We are pidove

[upper echo]

Dunno it gets a mask when evolving

[gusty shuttle]

Like a superhero
COOL

[sturdy breach]

Just fuse Roserade or (if it gets in) Froslass if ya want masks

[upper echo]

Not very normal

[flat elk]

staraptor, talonflame, corviknight and kilowattrel are the only first route evo birds that r worth using imo

[upper echo]

Pidgeotto is just a big bird

[upper echo]

Corviknight is goated

[sturdy breach]

I dunno, Swellow carried me pretty hard in a big portion of Sapphire

[gusty shuttle]

Everyone can be a masked vigilante
Batman is literally a normal... "normal" man with a mask

[upper echo]

He is NOT normal

[flat elk]

very much would rather use altaria tho, but idk anything about swellow

[upper echo]

The billionaire with super strength ain't normal

[sturdy breach]

Well yeah, but Altaria is much later into the game

[flat elk]

we have that w/ roserade i think

[flat elk]

after the 2nd gym i thought?

[sturdy breach]

And vote this for more masks 🙂

[upper echo]

If you want a normal pigeon you got pidgey line

[flat elk]

do u mean getting the lvl to evolve it?

[fallow drift]

You got a point there

[upper echo]

https://tenor.com/view/relicanth-gif-20464895

[gusty shuttle]

OK I WANT TWO
OK??????

[white meadow]

batman is a billionaire

[upper echo]

Look at how cute relicanth is

[gusty shuttle]

Everyone can be a billionaire
You just need to be Jeff Bezos' son

[sturdy breach]

You can't get Swablu before reaching Fallarbor Town if I remember correctly

[fallow drift]

Iron man to dude aka tony stark

[upper echo]

A man who can punch around a crocodile monster isn't normal

[little ibex]

I stand up for Pidove

[gusty shuttle]

"Despite its name, Pidgey more closely resembles various passerine birds (especially the female house sparrow) than it does a pigeon."

CHECK FUCKING MATE

NOW, GIVE ME MY DAMN PIGEON

[white meadow]

no

[flat elk]

correct, i remember getting there kinda early tho

[sturdy breach]

Then again, once Pidove evolves it's not a pigeon anymore either

[upper echo]

Pidgey is based on the Japanese wood pigeon

[white meadow]

yeah it's unpleasant

[gusty shuttle]

Have you heard of the everstone or whatever it's called??

[fallow drift]

Is it me or…..no one talks about necrozma

[flat elk]

just u

[gusty shuttle]

There's been necrozma propaganda everyday

[sturdy breach]

Soooooo waste 3 slots for just a dumb pigeon?

[white meadow]

it is you, necrozma gets talked quite a lot at the right time

[silk narwhal]

It's just you
Necrozma is one of the most supported mons probably

[upper echo]

Pidgey is based on a pigeon
Just not the ones in the us cities

[upper echo]

Which is why pidove exists

[fallow drift]

Because I talk to my friends and kids on group chats they say necrozma is a random bad and shit pokemon

[upper echo]

It's not bad
I'd just rather not have it over others

[fallow drift]

Vote necrozma

[silk narwhal]

Necrozma is great

[sturdy breach]

Also, vote these 🙂

[upper echo]

Flower mantis cool

[gusty shuttle]

I voted 0 for necrozma and I'll do it again

[fallow drift]

THANK YOU JUST RESPECT

[flat elk]

wut is this supposed to mean?

[gusty shuttle]

They're right

[white meadow]

his small friend group > the entire community ig

[violet pawn]

yes and true

[fallow drift]

How are they right tho?!

[silk narwhal]

There is no way you want a PIGEON, literally one of the most unoriginal and lame lines in the whole dex over a LIVING PRISM THAT STEAL LIGHTS FROM OTHER BEINGS AND CAN TRANSFORM INTO A STAR DRAGON

[white meadow]

i didn't vote for pidove and im not gonna bother checking since it won't matter anyway

[flat elk]

aint no way, u trolling to think that a bird would beat anything close to cool like necrozma... and i only gave him a 2

[little ibex]

Now u have to tell me in which country the pigeon are different than the ones in the us cities...

[gusty shuttle]

Ah yes a random black shape that you call a pokémon
Cool

[fallow drift]

Bro are you joking or your just dumb

[flat elk]

compared to a fuggin bird

[silk narwhal]

Yours is straight up a fucking pidgeon, what are you even saying

[upper echo]

There's different species of pigeons
Like the rock pigeons and the Japanese wood pigeons

[fallow drift]

I’m out guys cya

[sturdy breach]

BTW when it comes to movesets do people include the TMs that they can learn or just the level up moves?

[gusty shuttle]

It has purpose
Necrozma doesn't

[white meadow]

yeah the purpose is dying to people feeding it bread

[gusty shuttle]

Still a purpose

[upper echo]

Level ups and tms if it's not super late game

[little ibex]

Yeah u are right, completely differet and most important, exactly like pidgey...

[silk narwhal]

What fucking purpose, it's a normal ass animal

[gusty shuttle]

See? You got it

It's not that deep to get guys come on 😌

[white meadow]

can't way for them to add a route 1 pokemon that will totally not be ignored!

[upper echo]

people tried to say pidgey isn't a pigeon

[silk narwhal]

It's just a bird holy shit

[flat elk]

toucanon has a better chance of getting in

[gusty shuttle]

Guys you are repeating what makes Pidove unique

[upper echo]

It's not tho

[flat elk]

nothing?

[silk narwhal]

And it will 100% lead to lame fusions. Recolors with a different face

[upper echo]

Pidgey exists

[little ibex]

not a pidgeon

[upper echo]

It is tho

[agile olive]

now you mention it, yes I do want pidove better. you gonna sprite necrozma??

[gusty shuttle]

not a normal-ass pigeon

[little ibex]

ok not seem like one

[white meadow]

which is great, pigeons suck

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[silk narwhal]

Of course i will
And i already have
And like other 20 people did too

[upper echo]

It's just a pidgeon not found in cities

[little ibex]

I dont think this good boy needs propaganda

[gusty shuttle]

See? It's already a bit special

[little ibex]

neither in this world

[upper echo]

No.

[clever atlas]

Just in case

[brisk vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-26178840

[violet pawn]

?????????

[white meadow]

yeah very "special"

[gusty shuttle]

Guys can't you just imagine the feeling of beating the shit out of the game with an everstone Pidove and fusing it with the most incredible pokémon??

[upper echo]

Pidgeons literally come in brown

[white meadow]

i can't and im so glad i don't

[gusty shuttle]

Guys of course it's a troll but that's the point of Pidove. It's fun trolling the game

[brisk vessel]

My guy
Bruxish is right there

[gusty shuttle]

You can make troll fusions

[flat elk]

let me bring a little bit of spice into the mix w/ my take of who should get in BASED on sprite potential specifically

[white meadow]

if i wanted to troll i would vote the fucking monkeys over a fucking pigeon

[upper echo]

The only thing unique about it is how much the pokedex calls it dumb

[gusty shuttle]

They don't exclude each other

[brisk vessel]

👍

[sturdy breach]

Also based

[upper echo]

2 weather setters in 2 smh

[flat elk]

did u read?

oh wait, my bad

[upper echo]

No I can't read unfortunately

[silk narwhal]

golisopod in 1

[upper echo]

Peliper slander

[flat elk]

someone made a point that we have anorith or however u spell it which is very similar w/ few fusions

[white meadow]

this is more factual™️

[brisk vessel]

True

[silk narwhal]

How are they similar

[wispy abyss]

Question for the developers: If Rockruff does get picked, would we get all 3 of its forms?

[flat elk]

i meant to put sprite and not fusion in there so gameplay isnt the reason for the chart

[brisk vessel]

Guessing either midday or dusk

[silk narwhal]

Yeah, totally identical. Can't tell am apart 💀

[wispy abyss]

Dude, im seeing double

[flat elk]

actually bait

[upper echo]

I'm seeing double

[silk narwhal]

Anyways vote for these guys

[upper echo]

Both armored fake fish insects

[flat elk]

whether or not someone wants golispod in for another reason was not my reasoning as the sprites was all i was thinking about for that list

[white meadow]

that's like saying that every rock type looks the same breh

[upper echo]

All imma say is they both have heads missing shoulders and got knees and toes

[spring abyss]

Theyre bipedal insects with claw hands it aint that complicated

[flat elk]

real

[upper echo]

Love the meteor

[white meadow]

the shiny always reminded me of the amiibo colors for some reason

[brisk vessel]

Im about to get raci-

[wintry imp]

[flat elk]

wrong pokemon, slug instead

[fallow drift]

Bruh immediately vote for necrozma

[upper echo]

I'm surprised pokemon didn't have aiimbo functionality knowing Nintendo

[white meadow]

tbh true

[flat elk]

i think they tried w/ Pokemon Rumble?

[upper echo]

Rumble different

[flat elk]

fair

[white meadow]

imagine if we got an amiibo for every 1k+ pokemon :trol:

[upper echo]

Pokemon skylanders

[flat elk]

green needle

[upper echo]

Insert pokemon + claydol = their pokemon rumble look

[flat elk]

lol, porygon should have a few of those for alt sprites

[upper echo]

Porygon is video game references
Rumble are pokemon toys/figures coming to life

Literally claydol but instead of a clay doll a figure

[flat elk]

we got:
porygon for games
mimikyu or banette for plushes
and claydol or baltoy for toys

perfect idea

oh and rotom for electronics

[brisk vessel]

If claydol gets in im turning it into an evangelion reference

[silk narwhal]

Hell yeah

[flat elk]

has someone made that weird diamond thing that floats from it?

never watched it, so no idea wut that thing is called

[brisk vessel]

Ramiel?

[wintry imp]

I still argue that Meloetta + either Rotom or Porygon could make for a great Echo reference. (Echo is refering to this song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQKGUgOfD8U)

[flat elk]

u could say any name and i would say sure

[brisk vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/ramiel-evangelion-my-beloved-angel-shinji-gif-20150452

[flat elk]

ya that

[brisk vessel]

I think there was a porygon/arceus joke alr but nothing else

Its the only “popular” angel that doesn’t have a fusion sprite yet

[flat elk]

maybe u could make that w/ necrozma? idk wut that thing does but u could find something blocky or blue to make that

[brisk vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/ramiel-evangelion-angel-gif-25650203

I had an idea for Necrozma/Starmie if it gets in

[flat elk]

it becomes a star?

[brisk vessel]

It can shapeshift

[flat elk]

then i guess necrozma really could work w/ it then

[silk narwhal]

Screams geometrically

[brisk vessel]

I have like 3 eva reference fusion (technically 4)

[flat elk]

lol, theres 1 w/out a background so it just kinda floats there now

[brisk vessel]

I just remembered i still have a sahaquiel fusion i need to make (Giant Space Eye)

[violet current]

i think most of my top 5 is grass types

we need more cool grass types in if

[robust geyser]

next reveal when

[wintry imp]

Next week

[violet current]

plus all the cool ones take up less than 3 slots

and the coolest one takes up one slot! vote dhelmise

[iron quartz]

ECHO

[olive cedar]

Man I did not expect tyrantrum to get a spot

I wonder if he is second place votes or last place

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/echo-gif-7626529

[iron quartz]

The animation community:

[outer hound]

Man we need more dragons ingame for more chances for a random dragon with dragon Rage to appear on the 1st trainer and reset the nuzlock

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokememes-funny-cute-frikoid-gif-23774684

[short garden]

sigilyph (eye, flying, strange limbs)

blacephalon (undulating colors, explosive, alien)

or necrozma if that is the theme for angels

[wintry imp]

You know what they should have done with Zygard's shiny? made the red, blue and green into magenta, cyan and yellow.

[livid geyser]

purugly gaming

[glossy jewel]

@sharp sphinx you must be really happy

[iron quartz]

For what

[cobalt nebula]

Show me a haunter Melolleta. Grim Grinning ghost Meloletta

[iron quartz]

no results but EMPATHY BANANA

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-undertale-deltarune-chapter2-chapter2-kris-get-the-banana-gif-23225451

[cobalt nebula]

I actually prefer Baltoy. He’s my second favorite Pokémon. Claydol is just a bonus

[zenith sentinel]

tyrantrum was a staff pick aswell, right?

[regal vault]

No

[zenith sentinel]

[glossy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-election-rigged-gif-7171898

jk of course please dont ban me 😦

[silk narwhal]

Why would they ban you for that

[silk narwhal]

joke
don't ban me please aahh noo please I'm sorry

[glossy plover]

i'm st00pid okay!

[hot grove]

This is the channel where we talk about voting right

[cobalt nebula]

Yes. What are your thoughts on regi?

[glossy plover]

regi for prez

[wintry imp]

https://tenor.com/view/reggie-reggie-fils-aime-reggie-nintendo-nodding-zoom-in-gif-21305654

[violet pawn]

Yes. What are you thoughts on toxapex?

[hot grove]

Idk ig im indifferent

[wintry imp]

This is the Propaganda Channel

[hot grove]

Annoying but cool 👌

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-scrappy-doo-seize-them-after-them-get-them-gif-25477611

New blood new blood.

[hot grove]

Oh yeah thats the one i saw on reddit

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[silk narwhal]

Me and egg are based, what can i say

[glossy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/propaganda-gif-19992759

[hot grove]

You guys made great sprites 👌

[iron quartz]

True

[silk narwhal]

Thanks

[hot grove]

That image single-handedly got me to vote meloetta a 3

[iron quartz]

👍

[iron quartz]

@alpine rune I see you

[alpine rune]

Someone make Ninjask Meloetta and I'll vote Meloetta

[iron quartz]

on it

[alpine rune]

💀

[cobalt nebula]

Bump

[glossy plover]

Is anyone in this server fighting for my boy sigilyph?

[cobalt nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1142564030653931520/image.png

[iron quartz]

@alpine rune DONE
(btw the sprite should look like a Kunoichi)

[alpine rune]

How the fu-

[iron quartz]

Speedrun.

[iron quartz]

also
Check #sprite-requests

:)

[silk narwhal]

I saw like one other guy

[glossy plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cartoon-sad-sitting-in-corner-gif-10681093

[alpine rune]

Sonofa-

[iron quartz]

How do i add additional notes btw?

[iron quartz]

I said The sprite should be like a Kunoichi

[cobalt nebula]

Is it a strategy to make sprites with the Pokémon you want most fused with Pokémon that got accepted

[iron quartz]

I had a stroke reading this

[trim sapphire]

Aurorus my beloved

[iron quartz]

wait no
DONT

[cobalt nebula]

???? Sorry? Don’t know what’s stroke worthy about it.

[iron quartz]

well
maybe?

Talking abt the stragegy

[iron quartz]

Also Maybe it is a strategy

[regal vault]

Triple fusion Regis joke alt avatar

[modern flower]

https://tenor.com/view/primadonna-iconic-meloetta-nota-sine-gif-16632893

[regal vault]

No

[cobalt nebula]

Ah yes my favorite avatar. Earth, water and earth again- I love the tyrunt

[modern flower]

[plush bough]

https://tenor.com/view/salazzle-talk-to-the-hand-gif-13428078

[regal vault]

Salazzle and meloetta fusion

[plush bough]

Yeah, why not? Everything with salazzle!

[crude garden]

Roseice

[worthy abyss]

britney spears

[silk narwhal]

Yeah it's called propaganda

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-gif-25431304

[thorny ferry]

Your subconscious makes you want to vote bruxish

[azure oriole]

what does bruxish even bring in terms of moves/abilities

[sand mica]

Skuntank should be in the game.

[azure oriole]

nothing special

[silver ginkgo]

Psychic fangs + string jaw. Thats it.

[violet pawn]

strong jaw is pretty good

[alpine rune]

It's weird to see Twitter symbol turned to X

[thorny ferry]

I'm not that much into the game (even though I finished it) but I know it has strong jaw, a move that tyrantrum has too. The difference is that bruxish could be found anywhere, and tyrantrum only through a fossil

[azure oriole]

if thats all i would then pick dracovish, its all that + a broken signature move

[thorny ferry]

Dracovish isn't an option

[azure oriole]

wait rly? bruh

[short garden]

elongated muskrat plans to remove the block feature

it's quite literally against the app store TOS to do so

[violet pawn]

only pokemon up to gen 7 can be added

[cobalt nebula]

Software limitation?

[alpine rune]

Good thing I never use Twitter

[azure oriole]

rip i genuinely thought all fossils were options

[thorny ferry]

Now that it's all cleared, vote bruxish

[violet pawn]

Yeah I think it was something with the rpgmaker essentials version used for the game not supporting anything after gen 7.

[narrow garden]

why didnt annihilape get added to the vote

i love that guy...

[azure oriole]

gen 9

[thorny ferry]

Annihilape is gen 9

[narrow garden]

yeah anmd hes cool as hell........

[cobalt nebula]

Is there like something intrinsic about Gen 8 thay makes it so different? Weird.

[thorny ferry]

Maybe it's a storage problem?

[violet pawn]

Idk bruh, you'll have to ask someone who actually knows about this stuff. There's no reason for us mortals to be specualting about this

[tame flax]

The engine only goes up to gen 7

[narrow garden]

messed up

[upper talon]

vote for xirtree and vote for wishy washi too look at alll the good fusions we could make

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ultra-beast-neuron-xurkitree-sun-gif-23693471

[upper talon]

heh funny meme

[azure oriole]

running circuitree is very funny

[upper talon]

Yes

[random forge]

Vote cosmog, we can have: Cosmeus, Cosno, AND MORE!

[azure oriole]

bro those sprites dont even qualify

[hushed quest]

Just made my first sprite in months, a Gardevoir-Seprerior one.

[azure oriole]

too big, you just used a fading tool

[hushed quest]

In the event serp is added

[thorny ferry]

You are tempting me... ||I think I'll do cosmog/bruxish ||

[random forge]

yes

[thorny ferry]

They still give a good idea of how they could look like

[hushed quest]

btw do fusions with pkmn that are in the vote counted as IF or non-IF sprites?

[random forge]

another person did very detailed fusions earlier, you dont care about them

[thorny ferry]

Non-IF if it is in the vote and it didn't make it in yet

[crude garden]

Yeah

[hushed quest]

Now I will proceed to not make another sprite for the next 5 months.

[crude garden]

Like goomtorb

[void tulip]

i am archeps enjoyer

i hope he makes it in

[hushed quest]

I forgor what I voted for aside from the gen 5 starters and deerling

[void tulip]

you voted for glameow

[graceful torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-happy-كيوت-dance-gif-15181045

[hushed quest]

I didn't. I now rember.

[void tulip]

you voted for castform

[hushed quest]

I think so

[sharp nebula]

You definitely voted for Meloetta

[clever atlas]

Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[round light]

^

[covert geode]

Why y'all should vote marshadow :
Good fusion material
Ghost/fighting typing
Great moveset/ability
Good base stat

[gusty shuttle]

Ok I'm doing a tier list too

Where the heck is it

[white meadow]

https://tiermaker.com/categories/video-games/pokemon-infinite-fusion-new-pokemon-16034815

[spring abyss]

CLAYDOL DONT NEED NO PROPAGANDA
CLAYDOL DONT NEED NO THOUGHT CONTROL

[silver ginkgo]

My vote for em dropped after tyrantrum reveal we have enough physical rock types

[white meadow]

We got the T-Rex, nice!

[trail hull]

I love the fact that a lot of people change their vote after each reveal

[white meadow]

Who would've guess that people change their opinions as time passes?

[craggy lynx]

Its almost as if this is what every human being does

Crazy theory i know

[white meadow]

Yeah, it's a really crazy theory

[trail hull]

That’s a new one

[graceful torrent]

voet cherrim! cut eflower with cool super good ahbility

[red kindle]

vote amaura and aurorus so tyrunt and tyrantrum aren't lonely!

[graceful torrent]

yeah honestly between snow warning and refrigerate for abilities alone you got some good ass fusion material

aurorus snorlax refrigerate explosion time

[cobalt nebula]

Vote Regi’s so Regigigas can have his children. He’s a stay at home single father

[oak lotus]

vote lilligant and lurantis

pretty ladies... also gastrodon for FLATWORM FRIDAY LETS GO

[cobalt nebula]

They are lost and need your help getting home. Vote 3 for Regi to reunite this loving family.

[oak lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-charjabug-lilligant-gif-9433738

[willow scarab]

Vote the Regis so we can have another triple fusion.

[oak lotus]

vote lilligant and lurantis they can fall in love and raise their kids together (lesbians)

[cobalt nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1142564030653931520/image.png

[oak lotus]

dhelmise!!!

[craggy lynx]

Yeah, Dhelmise

[cobalt nebula]

Yeah, there’s a Dhelmise Regi fusion I found. Vote 3 for both Dhelmise and Regi to make it a reality

Together we can reunite this broken family.

[oak lotus]

what if tattered clothes dhelmise/lilligant... titantic sinking victim

[hybrid crown]

https://tenor.com/view/regice-gif-27202497

[cobalt nebula]

Is that Eternatus?

[alpine rune]

oh god i hate that

[oak lotus]

i wanna see hydreigon/guzzlord now

[regal vault]

Yes

[glossy osprey]

They're both brilliant

[sturdy breach]

🙂

[smoky basalt]

Nobody talk about darmanitan or toxicroak 🥲

[cobalt nebula]

Toxicroak don’t need propaganda. I’m sure it will get in

[glossy osprey]

I once saw a cursed darmanitan fusion

it had nails lips and stuff

[smoky basalt]

Oh damn it's terrible

[thorny ferry]

Funny af

[smoky yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/belch-gif-26675594

[left plover]

Do you think we'll get the Regis?

[oak lotus]

is that the medusal slurker

[left plover]

Is this comfirmed?

[glass quail]

Vote for this

[left plover]

Oh man you had my hopes up

[oak lotus]

where lilligant

[smoky basalt]

where toxicroak

[left plover]

Medicham gonna get slept on despite having the best ability for fusing

[glass quail]

I can actually go into detail for explanations for my picks

Malamar Inkay-Easy Contrary accessibility.

Cherubi/Cherrim-Cherry blossom fusions plus Flower gift would be interesting when paired with a fire type

[covert geode]

Where marshadow

[glass quail]

Cresselia-Gorgeous potential plus counterpart to darkrai

Cutiefly/Ribombee-good speed sticky webs

[covert geode]

Bug type = the worst typing in the game with rock type

[glass quail]

Meloetta-Great fusion potential

[worthy sleet]

the only one I care about being added is mightyena, way too cool a design to be so underrated due to mediocre stats

[glass quail]

Shaymin-2 different form potential for spriters plus cute

Wimpod/golisipod-Really interesting mon that could benefit from fusions

Necrozma-INSANE fusion potential

[regal vault]

Nobody cares about cute

[covert geode]

Fact

Ngl i only want marshadow to be added with necrozma

[cobalt nebula]

The what in The Who now?

[sturdy breach]

YOU don't care about cute, big difference

[opaque ether]

Amen to that.

[covert geode]

Actually voting bc of cuteness instead of fusion potential or strategy is a big mistake

[covert geode]

Wheres marshadow at 😭😭

[minor mantle]

What's medicham's ability?
In a fusion sense

[glass quail]

Swablu/Altaria-Cotton Candy fusions

[covert geode]

Pure power = 2× attack stat

[grand hull]

As a marshadow lover he prob shouldn’t be in the game

[glass quail]

Fomantis/Lurantis-mantis fusions plus underrated

[covert geode]

Whyyy

[grand hull]

He was on the top of my list but idk anymore I’d rather have diancie

[worthy sleet]

I hate how pure power isn't the special attack version of huge power, they were introduced in the same generation and do the exact same thing

[white meadow]

Mar- who?

[warm glen]

You're talking to Marshadow's biggest hater

[glass quail]

Pachirisu-probably the most iconic pikachu clone

[minor mantle]

Oh that
I swear there's another mon in this game that has that
Or is it like a Mandela effect

[grand hull]

You should add diancie

[white meadow]

😂

[white meadow]

No space sadly

[covert geode]

Yes azumarill

[grand hull]

U should remove the other fossil cause there’s only gonna be 1

[warm glen]

Though I wonder, did you ever give a good reason why you don't like Marshadow here besides that one war?

[worthy sleet]

pure power and huge power, they both do the exact same thing except one is on marill line and the other is on meditite line also vote mightyena

[mortal jungle]

Says who

[white meadow]

I actually dont hate it but there are literally no reasons to add it

[covert geode]

Yk what u're right marshadow won't be added anyway

[silk narwhal]

necrozma
golisopod
meloetta
fucking based

[white meadow]

Noone said that

[grand hull]

Says the tyantrum announcement

[covert geode]

Good typing good ability good base stat good fusion material good good moveset

[white meadow]

No they said they didnt found a Amaura fossil yet
And they only searched in Kanto
There is still Johto

[grand hull]

Oh dang

[tame flax]

And diggersby

[sturdy breach]

no, they just said they weren't linked. A mod even said that this has nothing to do with the possiblity for Amaura etc to get in.

[warm glen]

Guess once again, like everything, it's on subjective opinions. Not everyone feels like voting the one you want, that's fine

[grand hull]

I’m slow

[covert geode]

Yes marshadow still won't be in the game sadly 😪

[tame flax]

Don't feel bad, lots of people were thinking the same thing yesterday, the REEEEEEEs were wild

[grand hull]

If anyone doesn’t think diancie should get into the game go to spritework and look up diancie/sablye

[covert geode]

I personnally think that there are enough fossil

[grand hull]

Me too

[white meadow]

We have both types on good mons
Enough mons have the same ability
Good bases stats arent a good reason than we would miss a lot of good pokemon
I only saw like 2 goodish fusions
Moveset is also a meh reason since we fuse

[tame flax]

But what about the potential of archeops without defeatist? Dude has 567 bst

[covert geode]

Yes i votee it but i know he won't be in the game

[tame flax]

Hell, he has such solid special attack he could provide a solid body for any special mon

[covert geode]

A lot of people think cuteness instead of strategy ( it's pissing me off but that's you're opinion )

[white meadow]

Also atleast I try to make a fusion once

[sturdy breach]

Aurorus is cute, has a unique ability and a weather setting HA. If we are purely talking fossils

[warm glen]

That's cause I asked for fun.

[tame flax]

A lot of people don't even come to this channel so like, those scrub opinions don't even matter, like look at who all got in so far

[modern flower]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-21659909

[white meadow]

I could have said no

[inland jewel]

Snow warning is just its regular ability not its HA

[warm glen]

That's ok

[inland jewel]

nvm i stand corrected, actually looking stuff up

[sturdy breach]

Snow Warning is HA, Refrigerate is it's regular 😄

[inland jewel]

man that makes me want Aurorus less now, since delibird is also a Snow Warning mon but only hidden ability

[tame flax]

The problem with aurorus having snow warning is that fusions with it would practically never benefit from it, it would make a better head than body, and it's head is rock type

[sturdy breach]

Not like HA are hard to get

[white meadow]

But Refridgerate is a hella good ability to make some strong Ice moves

[inland jewel]

true, it has that.

[white meadow]

We dont know yet what type it will be if its Ice/Rock or Rock/Ice since IF sometimes changes the order

[inland jewel]

my three poitns for voting Aurorus was
Unique abilities, Ice type, Access to Weather setting for Hail (Which we don't have in this game for some reason)

[warm glen]

Though because you said yes, perhaps it shows you're trying to find something good for making Marshadow fusions

[sturdy breach]

And if anything people seem to think cute pokemon can't be good for some reason, which pisses me off

[tame flax]

The only mons with changed orders are gen 1 mons and scizor

[white meadow]

And who says they wont do it for others?

[inland jewel]

Ferroseed is also changed

[covert geode]

Rock and ice type aren't good type

[tame flax]

Who says they will?

[white meadow]

They are offensiv types yes

[inland jewel]

only ferroseed, not ferrothorn

[sturdy breach]

Since when does Delibird have Snow Warning as it's hidden ability? (it doesn't)

[tame flax]

That's odd

[inland jewel]

In this game it does, since someone pointed out how two of its abilities are basically the same thing, and that we had no access to Snow warning when we had Sand Stream (Tyranitar) and Drizzile (Kyogre)

[tame flax]

But it seems that outside of gen 1, the exception is only made for steel types

[covert geode]

I'm talking about the type not the mon

[tame flax]

Which last I checked aurorus isnt

[covert geode]

Rock has too many weaknesses and not a lot resistance like ice type and bug type is even worse

Even with the best defensive type ( steel ) they aren't that good

[inland jewel]

#game-suggestions message

[covert geode]

( i'm talking as double type like rock steel ice steel and bug steel )

[sturdy breach]

I see. So why are people insisting there's no Snow Warning mon in the game rn...

[white meadow]

Yes the types are offensiv
Many weaknesses, few defenses and quiet some strengths (super effectiv stuff)

[inland jewel]

who cares about if its a bad double type, its gonna be fused anyway

[mortal jungle]

No, that's just clarifying they aren't all 4 coming, it's not saying they can't come

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/regi-pokemon-regis-registeel-rejisuchiru-regirock-gif-27623530

[tame flax]

And it will never be benefited by its abilities in a practical way

[white meadow]

True like if it stopped people on other mons

[covert geode]

Nice looking pokemon but bad in strategy is trash

[smoky basalt]

That's why vote darmanitan

[white meadow]

Idk why you hate on everything thats not Marshadow (it feels like that)

[sturdy breach]

Thoughts on Goodra then? (I'm curious)

[tame flax]

Also any mon is gonna be fused with any mon anyways, this statement doesn't help the case of aurorus more than literally every single other mon on the poll

[inland jewel]

i agree with looks aren't everything, but i voted to add stuff into the game that we don't otherwise have. Snow warning and Refrigerate are both abilities we don't have a lot of access to, in addition Ice is one of the three least represented types in the game

[cobalt nebula]

Scrub opinions? you’ve taken too much competitive if you’re using that lingo. It has cooked your brain.

[tame flax]

Idgaf about competitive, I just want fun mons

[warm glen]

This is why I would have backup picks and have never disrespected other mon choices

[tame flax]

Which is also why I upvote slurpuff, seviper, diggersby, and mienshao, not competitive by any means, but they are fun

[covert geode]

If you'r mon is cool but cannot tank 1 or 2 attack or can't outspeed the other is ( for me ). Also i don't hate everything that's not marshadow i voted a lot of mon but still. I'm not saying y'all opinion are trsh absolutely not it would be disrespectful and i hate that. But i just prefer a good strat mon then a cute looking of a nice looking

[left plover]

What Pokemon are for sure rn

[white meadow]

Also freeze dry

[tame flax]

Scolipede line, tyrantrum line, sableye

[left plover]

YES! YES! Oh my god yes

[white meadow]

I only disrespekt Marshadows out of Fun
I dont see any potential but im fine if people vote it

[tame flax]

And scolipede was a staff pick so it doesn't count towards the 20 slots

[tropic nacelle]

Lilligant

[inland jewel]

true we can get a 5th freeze dry learner

[white meadow]

But we can fuse we can eliminate weaknesses

[sturdy breach]

Unless there's a tutor somewhere, only Articuno learns freeze dry in the gen7 moveset as far as I know (that's in the game)

[white meadow]

Actually we have only 1 Freeze dry Pokemon in the game

[gentle ferry]

Tyrantrum line wasn't a big surprise (it's a cool line), though it has further convinced me that propaganda has a minimal impact for better or worse. You'll certainly be able to get a few points from it potentially but a lot of people just voted and never looked back likely.

[inland jewel]

Delibird, Lapras, Mamoswine

[warm glen]

What do you think of Froslass and Pumpkaboo?

[sturdy breach]

all 3 don't learn it with gen7 movesets

[white meadow]

But you cant get the egg move on them

[covert geode]

That's why i voted bronzong bc of steel type + levitate which can make absolutely gorgeous typing

[white meadow]

I like them ghostly girls with a lot of potential
Just think of all Halloween fusions for the Pumpkaboo line

[inland jewel]

can't you do Articuno/Mamoswine and breed with ditto

[white meadow]

Nope wont work

[sturdy breach]

Articuno can't breed

[inland jewel]

it can if its fused with a body that can

[warm glen]

Exactly my thoughts with Pumpkaboo

[inland jewel]

thats how people been duping legends

[sturdy breach]

People dupe legends through black market as far as I know

[covert geode]

I voted a lot of ghost mon bc it's my favourite type but also a lor of steel type bc it's i think the best typing

[warm glen]

I think it's funny how my top three Pokémon I talk about are all part ghost

[clever atlas]

Also nincada fusions

[inland jewel]

The methods to dupe legends are breeding it as a head fusion, Nincada evo, or acquring them from wondertrade/black market

[white meadow]

Btw for everyone fearing the strenths of Pokemon thats how we get the stats
Head gives Hp, SpArk, Spdef
Body gives Atk,Def, Spd
Its always 2/3 of the carrier and 1/3 of the other side
Aka hp is 2/3 of head and 1/3 of body

People dupe with nincada

[white meadow]

But isnt it contra productive voteing mainly for strength and good types

[sturdy breach]

In the eyes of many it is.

[covert geode]

I voted also for good looking mon dw

[tame flax]

Slurpuff

[smoky basalt]

Vote for

[clever atlas]

Also
Friendly reminder to vote for these good bois!
Here's some reasons why you should:

• they're good bois
• we need more speedy rock types
• we don't yet have a proper wolf pokemon
• A great mix of cute and cool
• Lycanroc has 3 forms ||two are almost the same but shhh|| (that means more options for spriters)
• a lot of possible cool fusions

[sturdy breach]

Any 20 panel with Goodra and Froslass on it is a W 🙂

[tame flax]

As much as I want lycanroc in I gotta disagree with that lycanzard, it needs to be reversed

[smoky basalt]

What's a W ?

[sturdy breach]

a win 🙂

[clever atlas]

Kay here's a substitute

[white meadow]

Who would care to see the stats for a Aurorus Body fusion (cuz if we want ice and Snowwarning/Refridgerate and lets not expect type swap)

Gimme a Mon you guys think would be cool

[clever atlas]

Lycanroc

[sturdy breach]

Those stats are not gonna be pretty 🙂

[inland jewel]

Alakazam

[white meadow]

Wich form?

[clever atlas]

Probably dusk

[sturdy breach]

Then again, consider head with something like Lapras (that would create ice rock I think right?)

[clever atlas]

For tough claws

[sturdy breach]

It won't be fast then but it can still pack a punch

[white meadow]

I did with out makeing the numbers round but I hope thats fine for you all
Aurorus Body
91
90,33333333
69,66666667
69,66666667
74
75,33333333
470
Aurorus Head
107
103,6666667
67,33333333
84,33333333
83
92,66666667
538

[clever atlas]

OH you meant cool for aurorus fusions, i thought cool in general lmao

In that case, if i can have another take, i'd say ampharos

[white meadow]

Aurorus Body
77,66666667
68
63
123
94
78,66666667
504,3333333
Aurorus Head
100,3333333
59
54
111
93
99,33333333
516,6666667

[inland jewel]

so not so different

and body would be psychic/ice while head is rock/psychic

[white meadow]

Aurorus body
101
76,33333333
76,33333333
109,6666667
90,66666667
57
511
Aurorus Head
112
75,66666667
80,66666667
104,3333333
91,33333333
56
520

How about we make a Ice BoomBurst user

[inland jewel]

so flygon?

[clever atlas]

Do you mean hyper voice

[white meadow]

With Noivern The first would give a Stab Ice Type Boomburst
Aurorus Body
97,66666667
74,66666667
74,66666667
97,66666667
84
79,66666667
508,3333333
Aurorus Head
110,3333333
72,33333333
77,33333333
98,33333333
88
101,3333333
547,6666667

Aka a Special 140 + Stab 100ACC Move

[inland jewel]

and a good speed too

[white meadow]

• with Ice type it can be Super effectiv against Ground, Grass, Flying and Dragon

[fast ruin]

I am once again asking you to vote for the life duo.

[white meadow]

I did already

[clever atlas]

Also doggo

Vote for doggo

[sturdy breach]

Also Goodra 🙂

[white meadow]

• these are common types and 3 of them even have Gym leader/E4 in the game

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/regice-regirock-registeel-hyper-beam-pokémon-hyper-beam-gif-26397014

[cyan crest]

it seems i must update my char tno

[clever atlas]

I don't lol😎

[cyan crest]

ah made a mistake hang on

hm ..nah.

[cobalt nebula]

Regi spotted! ÜN ÜN ÜN

[cyan crest]

btw heres how my first idea on a chart looked like

[violet pawn]

is that the freaking rock

[violet pawn]

I didn't see any of the previous messages

[violet pawn]

ok no one asked shut up skik

[cyan crest]

tiktok yikes

[cobalt nebula]

Porygon 2 + Regirock= Dwayne the Regirock Johnson

[cyan crest]

i dont know what to say except the first one isnt even a meme, its a shitty reaction

[paper pasture]

regirock regirock regirock regirock

[cobalt nebula]

Unite a loving stay at home father with his children.

[pale mortar]

Banana Dino and can be reunited with love

Fluffy 🐕

And the true lion

[ebon glacier]

dat hell