Tabletop Games

[worthy sparrow]

I made two origins

I just can't find proper triangle proportions

[tidal venture]

So, instead, work on the positioning of just one face.

I'll show you.

[worthy sparrow]

Look at other shapes too

[tidal venture]

From the Simple Shapes folder?

[worthy sparrow]

.

[tidal venture]

I see them. Anything in particular you'd like me to notice about them?

[worthy sparrow]

I just wanted you to see them, that's all

[tidal venture]

Oh, okay. They all look really good.

So, I've opened the in-progress file for the d16.

Here is the thing, yeh?

[worthy sparrow]

yes

[tidal venture]

You want to use this spot in the area for reference.
So you want to scoot the face over to the side.

I'll show you what I mean. Keep in mind, I'm not familiar with how to operate the VSMC software. So I'll just be drawing lines.

Hide all other triangles. Scoot this triangle to the edge.

[worthy sparrow]

i think I figured out how to

I will try tomorrow

[tidal venture]

You want your triangle top to meet the green axis.

While the bottom of the triangle is on the edge.

If it doesn't reach the green line, then you want to keep the width of the triangle, but change the length/height of the triangle until it does reach the green line.

Then, you duplicate it once and pivot 45 degrees from the centre green line. If the two edges overlap, your triangle is too broad/wide, so you make it more narrow. If they don't touch, it's too narrow, so make it wider.

Once the edges touch, then duplicate until you have eight.

Once you have that, then duplicate and mirror for the bottom.

[haughty zodiac]

hi, how do I make custom pieces?

I tried checkign the guide and wiki

and I can get to the point where I click the go bowl option from the schematic

but the instructions get very unclear from then on

[worthy sparrow]

Read handbook guides

[glossy ice]

my problem. some playing cards is GONE

[worthy sparrow]

Very strange

[glossy ice]

Hm...

[glossy ice]

Can't sovle my bug??

[worthy sparrow]

I couldn't reproduce it

[glossy ice]

Nooo

[worthy sparrow]

I tried again, but still can't reproduce it

[glossy ice]

hm

[worthy sparrow]

I have absolutely no idea how to either reproduce it or fix it

[glossy ice]

that is really sad news

[worthy sparrow]

Do you have any mods that affect stack sizes?

[glossy ice]

exactly, I'm not

[worthy sparrow]

Did you reload world and are they still missing when you do that?

[glossy ice]

yup

[worthy sparrow]

i don't know then

[glossy ice]

no...

[worthy sparrow]

2.10.4?

[glossy ice]

ah..i forgot

wait a minute plz

maybe my version is 2.10.12

...maybe?

[worthy sparrow]

try 2.10.4

[glossy ice]

okay

[worthy sparrow]

wait what

I meant mod version

[glossy ice]

ah

[worthy sparrow]

2.10.4 is the last Tabletop Games version

[glossy ice]

yes I tried 2.10.4

the latest version

[worthy sparrow]

Also, send audit logs please

[glossy ice]

Okay

But I'm on my way to work...

[glossy ice]

Where is logs file?

[worthy sparrow]

vintagestorydata/logs

[glossy ice]

O.k.

I'm going to upload a log file here, but it won't include my game ID or anything, right?

For example, license ID

[worthy sparrow]

nope

[glossy ice]

here

is this correctly?

[worthy sparrow]

Yes, I will look through logs a bit later

[glossy ice]

okay!!!

[glossy ice]

I haven't heard anything from you. Is there a problem?

[worthy sparrow]

Why there should be?

I forgot to look at logs

[glossy ice]

Oh

Lol

Please, I can't enjoy the mod because of this bug...

[worthy sparrow]

Logs say you took one card and put one card

[glossy ice]

but...but I didn't put one card

[worthy sparrow]

I just can't reproduce it

I literally have no idea why it happens

You are the first one who reported such bug and it never happened to me

[glossy ice]

Hm...

[worthy sparrow]

Damn

[tidal venture]

Ey!

That looks great!

[worthy sparrow]

But it's not symmetrical

[tidal venture]

I see that, but that's alright. It's very close.

[worthy sparrow]

Forgot to post it here

[wheat arrow]

hell yeah

[worthy sparrow]

Added them to the game months before I got them irl

[wheat arrow]

well now you got em

so hell yeah >:3

[worthy sparrow]

They are from temu 💀

[wheat arrow]

I mean

questionable indeed

but if youre tight on money Id say its fair

[bitter kayak]

Can you make the dices into hats

[worthy sparrow]

How

[bitter kayak]

Scale it jnto hat sizes

[worthy sparrow]

What

[lofty osprey]

@worthy sparrow Hey, sorry for the ping, but it seems like my chiselled block gets rotated as soon as I make it into a board. Can they only have one rotation, or is there a work-around?

[worthy sparrow]

Do you mean when you place it?

They always rotate

You can't disable rotation

[lofty osprey]

Yes, exactly. When it's placed as a normal chiselled block, it faces in one direction, but as soon as I make it into a board and place it down again, it has been rotated

[worthy sparrow]

Chiseled blocks are rotatable in vanilla

[lofty osprey]

Before turning into a board and after

Not really sure what's happening lol

Rotates 90 degrees

Oh wait, it depends on which direction you're facing?

Using some custom code to determine that I suppose? xD

[worthy sparrow]

yes

[lofty osprey]

Anyway, seems like it was just being rotated in a way I wasn't expecting, as all chiselled blocks do not care for the direction you are facing when placing it, but the boards do

Sorry for disturbing you!

Wait now that I'm here, is there a way to make something have collisions while not being registered as a place to put a piece?

[worthy sparrow]

No

[lofty osprey]

Alrighty, thanks!

[real chasm]

I wonder if it's possible to play Liar's Dice with the mod as it currently is?
Basically,people take turns throwing dice. They declare a value,above a certain value,and above any value used by a previous claimant that round. Everyone else gets to either stay silent,or call liar. If someone accuses wrong,or caught lying,they're eliminated.
The important thing here is concealing the throws from others,and then confirming.

[worthy sparrow]

I don't know

[sand olive]

how hard would it be in theory to animate the dice rolling?

[real chasm]

...There's a config to disable or enable them?

[sand olive]

how da hecky

[worthy sparrow]

I have no idea

[sand olive]

am I being gaslit when that guy says there is a config to enable or disable them? 😭😭

[real chasm]

In the Mod Configs folder. TabletopGames-Client.json

[sand olive]

incredible

[worthy sparrow]

They just shake violently and that's it

It is not true rolling animation

[sand olive]

better than anything I could do haha
I'll enable them next time I hop on

[vale bear]

Hey, sorry if this has been asked before, but how does the bag for shuffling work exactly? Like how fo i put the pieces in there to shuffle? Live the mod btw <3

[worthy sparrow]

You need to put pieces in there, yes

Shift + right-click

Shufflers accept only playing cards and chiseled pieces/boards

[vale bear]

Ah, ok, figured out it out!! Ty!! :)

I think it would be nice tho to have some sort of indication that the contents of the bag have indeed been shuffled, but it's fine, very small thing

Hmmm... is there a way one could possibly do uno with this mod? We can't make custom cards right?

[worthy sparrow]

Not yet

[vale bear]

Gotcha, no worries

[blazing cloak]

I do hope the day comes where we're able to add custom cards, though I get that it might be difficult to accomplish that or could create issues. It'd really open up options for recreating games.

[amber oak]

ive been playing with this mod a lot recently, started by doing a simple board game with custom pieces etc., later i realized the sheer amount of potential creative uses chiseled pieces and boards provide. Being able to add smaller sculptures to normal ones to give them more details is great. I experimented a bit with "meme" items aswell, like custom decorative weapons. I was wondering if it is possible in VS to dynamically convert something like chiseled item or game piece into a properly working weapon or tool, with correct attributes and such

[worthy sparrow]

No idea

[lofty osprey]

It would seem that chiseled grass blocks (sparse grass, patches of grass) do not work with the custom boards. Is this a known bug?

[worthy sparrow]

Vanilla bug probably

[lofty osprey]

So no fix?

[burnt sedge]

is there a specific "help" section in the handbook? I cant tell if the mod is working on the server I am on

[worthy sparrow]

Are items from the mod visible in handbook?

[burnt sedge]

as far as I can tell no, though I am unsure what to look up. I searched for Blank Cards but nothing there

Do you know of any mods it is absolutly incompatable with?

[worthy sparrow]

Are you sure it is installed on the server?

[burnt sedge]

Yes I am, and it has its dependancy

I know the dependancy works because Draconis works aswell

I would share the logs but I am unsure where I would find that

[sand olive]

how exactly do the custom boards work? Could I in theory set up a bunch together to make a sort of TTRPG?

[worthy sparrow]

Like that?

[sand olive]

holy shid.

[worthy sparrow]

These are a lot of separate boards

[sand olive]

And they still have the individual squares to place pieces ?

[worthy sparrow]

yes

[sand olive]

That's so cool definitely wanna work on something today then.

I assume you just use a single chiseled block per board, just like the pieces?

[worthy sparrow]

yes

[sand olive]

Thanks so much for the info

[cosmic python]

hello. is solitaire playable in this mod? i would like to have that in this mod too, its perfect for single players when at your base waiting for the temporal storm to stop

[worthy sparrow]

How solitaire is played?

[cosmic python]

hmm its like piling each card but with alternate colour in it

but each pile of card should be a consecutive numbers

but alternate colours

https://www.wikihow.com/Set-Up-Solitaire

you can try to look in here, it has a very simple instructions

[cosmic python]

i wish this mod will introduce solitaire game in next update, this mod are mean to be more friendly in players especially in lonesome players who always dive into a single player style. waiting for something important at home is a boredom, but with solitaire i swear they will kill their boredom with just a couple of rounds playing solitaire. i really wish

[worthy sparrow]

Too much work

[cosmic python]

ahm maybe not? actually the mechanics of playing tongets in the game with card was like similar in playing solitaire, piling the cards is the only way for now without seeing the cards under it which is not perfectly the same as how real solitaire piled those card in consecutive numbers, maybe this mod can also provide a kind of board which is where the solitaire can play, and in that board, it can pile the card while the numbers can be seen.

[frozen tangle]

first time trying to play with a mode i want to know how to like change texture of the blank card and give it more details about it am not smart when it come to coding so if there a wiki or someone can explane it for me would be amazing

[worthy sparrow]

There are only predefined cards

[frozen tangle]

I see so they csnt change?

[worthy sparrow]

What do you mean?

[frozen tangle]

If i want to mske my own cards texture and details

[worthy sparrow]

Make separate card pack

[frozen tangle]

Ok

[vale bear]

Just wanted to say, thank you Dana for this mod. It's been a joy on our server. Here's me utilising the custom pieces mechanic to make little bugs to spread around the server :) we've also been making our own board games!

[worthy sparrow]

Smol bugs

[cosmic python]

hello. in this mod that the players can play, is there also a game in this mod that can be played even just one player??

[worthy sparrow]

You can chisel your own game in the mod

[cosmic python]

i know but my thought is, are all the games that can be played in this mod are only for two person and not in single person. is that right?

[cosmic python]

if so? what kind of game is that? does the game i can chisel can also be played by single person? that is my point

[worthy sparrow]

I don't know

[cosmic python]

because this mod is only friendly for servers and not for client or single players. for offline single player survival mode, with this mod it will be perfect if it also featured single person game like solitaire. but sadly not.

[boreal arrow]

how does one obtain the board for ninemen morris ?

found it

[ionic epoch]

How possible would it be to streamline the card interactions in the mod? For example being able to split off a facedown hand of cards to give to someone (e.g. for poker) or directly place cards from a deck onto the ground face down or up (poker, solitaire, etc), directly take cards from the ground into a deck (various games) or being able to merge decks just by putting them on top of each other (general QoL)?

[worthy sparrow]

I'm not good with UI/UX

[ionic epoch]

Aah fair

[vagrant silo]

Hey! I was trying to add compatibility with the schematic added by this mod with my mod and am encountering some weird issues. When the schematic is used in a recipe to craft a rolled version, it works fine, but when trying to craft it from my rolled version, it seems to just... disappear. Does this have something to do with the way the class is written? Is it unusuable through json recipes? Or is there a way to reference it that's different than what one would expect?

[latent coral]

my friend and i ran into a few errors coming from your my and i just wanted to tell you

its causing a quite a bit of lag for him

[worthy sparrow]

What errors?

[vast oxide]

Hey! I run a server, and we're running into an issue where chiseled game pieces don't keep their appearance when you pick them up, they just become a black square. Once you put them back down, they appear again.

[worthy sparrow]

it worked before

[vast oxide]

It used to. Then we updated to 1.22 and its been broken

[ornate mountain]

Hi, I'm trying to make a proper chess set, but knapping just gave me 16 pawns, and the guide for other chess pieces just says "made using schematic", but the guide for the schematic isn't helping me out either. How do I get a proper chess set instead of just pawns, and can I use the pawns I already made for that?

[worthy sparrow]

Press F while holding a pawn

[ornate mountain]

Thanks!
...I really could have just checked that lmao

[cosmic python]

still expecting and waiting for the chance of this mod to be add a solitaire card game that only one person can play.

[worthy sparrow]

I'm not almighty sadly

[cosmic python]

umm actually, someone just made a mod for tabletop mod. its name is tabletop games - sequence, that game has board where every card placed in it by grid craft.
to be honest, solitaire can also play like that in board or something to put the cards on, solitaire is mostly can be played in floor or anywhere in surface, so that would be also fine adding a board for just solitaire.
i dont know why im so disparate in this, but waiting some processing items in-game like leather or anything that can be done in barrel in just few hours while doing nothing is kinda boring especially for some players who preferred playing offline singleplayer survival. with solitaire game for only singleplayer tabletop game is perfect in this scenario

you know, just to make as feel not boring cuz solitaire can finally bare as some moment to enjoy more in the game.

[acoustic gazelle]

I'm very confused, I can't make stone pieces of any kind, while wood pieces I can make just fine, can I even make pieces out of stone?? what counts as a "mineral"??

[worthy sparrow]

You can only knap stone pieces

[acoustic gazelle]

not custom pieces, I'm trying to make checkers pieces

what's a valid material for those?

[worthy sparrow]

Knapping is the only way

[worthy sparrow]

Any stone

[acoustic gazelle]

wdym knapping? do I not drag and drop it on the piece like you do with the wooden pieces?

[worthy sparrow]

No, you literally knap them just like stone tools

[acoustic gazelle]

o h

I see

[acoustic gazelle]

weird behaviour with cabinets, the game pieces are abnormally large when placed in them, while playing boards are maybe a bit too small

also the bounding boxes don't match at all, would be also nice if they did