sonar

[obsidian ore]

Everything works fine in the app when listening

[grand wedge]

did you adjust the settings in discord?

yeah GG just isn't made for that kinda stuff

[valid patrol]

ah

[stone ice]

whenever i use the steel series sonar for my mic it doesn't pick up anything from my mic when i speak

[digital scaffold]

Anyone have a good EQ for BO7
I’m using IEMs - Arete 2s

Been looking for a good EQ for ages

[vast geode]

alright so i just updated windows and now sonar wont allow any sound from my browser through but it does allow sound from my mic into discord as well as audio out of discord

yes audio works with sonar dissabled

[zinc shoal]

Anyone else dealing with an issue with sonar not working?

I have the Steelseries Arctis Nova 7 (Gen 2). The virtual surround sound no longer works. If it's turned on the audio in everything is muted.

I was sent a fix by support but it only worked for 1 day and then hasn't worked since.

Tried the fix again and it refuses to work.

Stuck with boring stereo audio.

[pulsar falcon]

how can i copy my setting of media to chat

[dense lily]

Hi there. So glad to become a recent owner of a Steelseries Nova Elite. I'm having one serious issue. When talking to people on Discord etc, my wife can clearly be heard. What do I need to adjust so that it focuses on only my voice and nothing else?

[grand wedge]

AI Noise Cancelling and potentially the noise gate?

Plus Discord input sensitivity

[dense lily]

And do my mic settings not change as I adjust the sliders in GG? I was doing some testing earlier and my friends were telling me they couldn't hear any noticeable change. Do I need to refresh my Discord for new settings to take effect?

[grand wedge]

Are you using streamer mode?

[dense lily]

No. I've turned on streamer mode, but I can't hear my computer when I do. I'm blind and I can't hear my screenreading software, but if there are further tweeks I can make let me know. I'm very new to Steelseries, the Gamehub and the GG app, but a week with it has taught me there are lots of different possibilities and I'm happy to learn.

[grand wedge]

There may be things you can do to combat that but it's a lot of trial and error

Moving the sliders should be changing your volumes and such, though

[dense lily]

Thank you so much for all of your help. I'll play around with it and see what else I can find out. I think it's cool that we have this Discord server to meet and ask questions. I hope more brands will make Discord channels so that we'll have something to consult as we get to know our new gear better.

[grand wedge]

Of course, if you need more help then @ me

I do recommend streamer mode as you can let other people hear stuff that you can hear, like music

It's helpful and once you kinda get the core aspect of it you'll have no problem

I'm not in any way a tech expert, I just understand GG 😅

[tawdry plinth]

can anyone help me its only an issue with my steelseries mic but it lowers itself when im ttoo loud

[tawdry plinth]

Omfg

Does anyone even know what help is in this server

[past hazel]

Please be aware that SteelSeries support staff does not actively monitor this Discord server.

For assistance with your SteelSeries product or software, we strongly encourage contacting SteelSeries directly via their website. For help from official support, please check out the information in the #official-support channel, or click the link below.

If you'd like support from other community members, please make a post in #1047622297382567936 or write a message in #❓-casual-support for quick questions or tips.

Please be aware that community members posting in our help channels are all volunteers! Please be kind and patient to those who offer to help, and please do not break this community's rules on harassing or spamming if community members are unable to assist.

[signal kite]

Yes

But very few

[tawdry plinth]

doesn’t seem like it I’ve been asking almost for a month now

[signal kite]

Well yeah 99.9% of people ask for help

Not enough of randoms to help each one

[gilded wharf]

Hey does anyone know why my mic quality gets way worse when I turn on the noise gate in sonar? It happens no matter what level I have the noise gate set to.

[sly veldt]

I'D LIKE A PROFILE FOR ARC RAIDERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ONE?

[reef glen]

anyone have a squad eq?

[fair knoll]

Help

[rapid berry]

Does anyone else keep getting this issue? Every time I try to download it’s the same thing?

[molten oar]

ahh so i wasnt the only one having this issue

i just exit off the app and opened it again

but theres an issue where game isnt working but the rest are fine.

maybe their working on it atm..

[ember iris]

Somebody knows why when I open the game GG, it won't open again and I have to download it anew to be able to play it. It keeps failing to open repeatedly.

[fast zodiac]

Might be a memory issue? do have any logs or anything to look at?

[devout lark]

yeah i have that issue too

i have to open it via admin

only been happening after the latest update

the shortcut on my taskbar doesnt work either

[grand wedge]

probably for the old version

[devout lark]

But it’s never had this issue till now so it’s strange

[shut bolt]

Anyone know why my Arctis Nova Pro Wireless has good audio in everything else but I am constantly hearing my friends voices in call on discord cut out at random points?

[crimson arch]

anyone have good sonar settings tuned for arena breakout infinite

[crude jolt]

having touble with discord getting desktop audio specifically whenever im watching yt vid

anyone got suggestions on what can help?

[radiant dirge]

Reinstalled Windows today. I currently have no sound because whenever I set the volume slider to 100, it immediately resets itself back to 0. During the brief second it stays at 100, I do hear sound. Does anyone know a solution?

[velvet walrus]

i saw a post on reddit that the most recent windows beta update is causing this issue so you should make sure you're not on the windows beta/windows insider program

[radiant dirge]

...

I am on the latest version

great

[signal kite]

Microslop at it again

[radiant dirge]

the problem indeed was the latest version

[marble sage]

Hi Guys Sonar or hardware mixer is not working on Rainbow 6 but working on COD OPS 7
why ?

[meager dove]

Guys anyone having issues with crackling and speeding up sound on the latest GG update? Anything I put through any sonar channel doesn't sound right

[storm tiger]

Hello, I have an issue when streaming on Discord. There is an audio echo, and both my voice and the voices of others in the chat keep repeating in the stream. I am using a SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro Wireless headset with Sonar software. What is the solution?

[past hazel]

Due to a bug in Discord's screen capture, Discord may capture Sonar outputs as part of the desktop audio, which can lead to echoing when screen sharing.

This issue can be fixed by setting Discord's capture to only capture a specific app. Application capture will only play audio from the selected app, and will not erroneously capture Sonar audio.

Alternatively, if you'd still want to capture the full desktop, you can use Sonar's streamer mode to manually choose what audio to send over your mic, and mute the stream sharing audio. More information on how to do this is in the links below.

If you're still getting an echo, or if your echo is happening even without screensharing, please contact SteelSeries Support at the link below.

[thin basin]

Mic Audio is too low, and it's looping as well 😭
any help?

[lyric fern]

can someone help me. my mic keeps echoing without screensharing. as you can see on the pic the mic echoed the media. or even other settings :3

[meager dove]

Bumping this

[wide bolt]

does someone have really good presets for the hyper x quadcast 2s?

[red sequoia]

Yes I am having the same issue just not the speeding up sound when I am listening to music while gaming everything starts playing up, I didn’t have this issue on my old headsets…

[light belfry]

Any idea how to manage Steelseries arena 3 on steelseries? cant get it to show up

[meager dove]

if you're using your onboard audio it'll be through that channel. the speakers are analogue not digiat

[meager dove]

I found a fix for this. it was my DOCP ram profile. moved it to the slower one and it worked fine. although im losing memory speed... sacrifice ill have the make for now

[valid brook]

my sonar mic just doesnt output audio anymore

[grand wedge]

i know i usually say i don't have issues but for some reason my stream output has suddenly stopped working and i'm not quite so sure why

[austere pelican]

Guys, help me! Every time I share my full screen on Discord with SteelSeries, it keeps giving me feedback. How do I fix this?

[meager dove]

I think this latest version is buggy compared to the last.. any way of rolling back?

[signal kite]

yeah you can use this link https://engine.steelseriescdn.com/SteelSeriesGG109.3.0Setup.exe

can adjust the number in the link to get whichever older version you want

tho perhaps you just need to reinstall the current version, updating from the about page kinda broke stuff for alot of people on the newest version

[devout roost]

Hello good people, I’m experiencing some weird behavior with my sonar setup. I’m usually in google meet session while listening to music on youtube, and from time to time my microphone either stops picking up input completely or sounds heavily gated/distorted, almost like the noise gate is malfunctioning. As soon as I pause youtube, the mic immediately goes back to normal. Sometimes this issue doesn’t happen for days, and other times it happens 5 times a day. Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? I don’t remember this happening let's say a month ago or anytime before that.

[signal kite]

Sounds like youre using bluetooth and the bandwidth cant handle it all

[rare jackal]

Hi all, I am on GG 110.00 and I cannot find out how to separate the outputs, each time I try to set one channel it sets it for all channels to the same device. I want media to Speakers and Game to headset. I do not see the generic SS virtual device in the list on Windows however, only each separate channel, so I suspect this may be it but unable to achieve what I need. What do you all suggest? thanks.

[velvet walrus]

click the green chain icon to unlink the outputs

[rare jackal]

Super easy when you know how! Thanks

[slow pond]

Does anyone know how to set blue voice on hyper x solocast 2 microphone in stellseries?

[compact raft]

Does anyone have a good rust sonar preset that brings out footsteps please

[light belfry]

Oh I was hoping to customize the sound

[spark ivy]

why cant we use Nahimic and Sonar together?
I liked the multi-point headphones thingy feature

[versed scaffold]

i've had a issue with steelseries headsets, i currently have arctis nova 7 and my microphone (inside the headphones) is not working at all, i had this issue few years ago with other headphones from steelseries and i had to buy new headphones, do i have to do that again to be able to use mic?

[lone patrol]

For anyone else who's wanted the Apex Pro Gen 3 roller to drive Sonar channels instead of Windows master:

I asked support whether this could be remapped and was told it isn't currently supported. Left the ticket open; didn't get a follow-up — so I wrote my own.

Windows tray app that intercepts the Apex Pro's roller + media-button events before they reach Windows, and routes them to Sonar's per-channel sliders (Game / Chat / Media / Aux, monitoring + streaming both available in Streamer mode). The Sonar GG sliders update live as you scroll, OLED shows the active channel + level.

MIT-licensed, source + installer here:
https://github.com/StableFlux/steelseries-apex-roller

If it helps you out, a ⭐ on the repo would be much appreciated — it's the only signal that says "this was worth doing". Bugs / suggestions welcome too.

Worth flagging — I've only physically tested on Apex Pro Gen 3. In theory it should work on any Apex with the metal roller + OLED + media button (Apex 5, 7, 7 TKL, Apex Pro / Pro TKL Gen 1 and Gen 2) since the roller dispatch + GameSense OLED layer are the same across the line. Untested elsewhere though — would love a quick "works on [model]" if anyone tries it.

[fierce mica]

im having problems with the gg app because i cannot launch it, ive tried every fix i could find and nothing worked, i launch the app and it just doesnt open

[solemn fern]

is the issue with sonar where the discord stream echoes getting fixed soon?
its pretty annoying to stream just the application or change the device volume mixer every time you start your pc.

[signal kite]

either it gor bricked durring an update or some other app is conflicting with it like signalrgb

[signal kite]

that youd have to ask discord for when theyre fixing it

[fierce mica]

hmm

[signal kite]

issue is on their side due to recording EVERY sound device on your pc, not compatable with virtual devices

[fierce mica]

i mean the thing is the app is just not launching

i reinstalled 8 times

and i also dont have signal rgb

[signal kite]

got no clue then sry :/

[fierce mica]

its fine

[drifting owl]

can you make the noice cancelling even better because I am using a temu mic and the buzzing sound is not gone while i am talking even if I am using the voicemod+sonar combo

or anyone with some good advice?

[tough bramble]

I swear the update made it so my mic is not picked up by discord now.

[pseudo timber]

this app all of a sudden never wants to open, I look in task manager to end it and it doesn't even show up there

[solemn mesa]

Someone know I can't use sonar?

I open but nothing work:
Set Sonar devices as your default audio devices in your Windows settings. Click here to set defaults automatically.

I clicked this more than twenty times

And no work

Tried reinstall

Restart your computer and then reinstall as well

And nothing work

[devout lark]

Are you on the latest update?

[devout lark]

Yh happens to me too, run as admin to fix

[deft owl]

Same thing happening to me. I just installed this today to test out the mic settings and ofc update broke it.

actually I have a different issue. Mb

[solemn mesa]

I downloaded and installed it today directly from the official website

[solemn mesa]

No, is the same

When I open streamer mode, mine looks like that too.

[tough bramble]

Same thing happened to me as well. I wonder if running it as admin will do anything.

I am at the point of just deleting it and using something different. It was always wonky for me anyways. Mic volume at max but people could barely hear me.

[tough bramble]

Just did this and did not help. My sound is gone as well.

[pseudo timber]

I tried that but just ended up uninstalling and reinstalling. And it's back to normal now, i'm getting to the poiny where imma permantely leave my pc running till the day it dies.

[limpid bloom]

So I had my Sonar enabled recently. Now my sound is gone. Any fix?

Had to turn on my basic Nova 7 headset config to get the sound back. But Sonar had to be disabled.

[digital siren]

why my sonar dont load i just do evrything and still doesnt work its typing unable to start sonar please retry and this code -532462766

[hallow dove]

Heloo

[humble hawk]

Hello. My SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro (wired) has this crackling/popping sound whenever I turn Sonar on. It doesn't happen when sonar is disabled. Is there a fix?

[pine moss]

is there a way to use it without setting the default device as gaming or chat? i want for my keyboard volume wheel to change the master volume and not the default one in windows (game or chat)

[devout lark]

Nah for me admin works

Just have to run it as admin each time

[devout lark]

Very strange, could be an issue within the software

[signal kite]

master volume in sonar isint a audio device like others so you cant set it in windows so no

[pine moss]

is there a chance they ever add something like that?

[signal kite]

got no clue what they plan to do

it kinda exists with streamer mode

you get a stream mix that has all other channels in it

but thing is sonar will always force gaming channel to windows default on boot

cant change that part

[pine moss]

stream isnt even a "sonar device"

actually nothing is

except game

[signal kite]

every sonar channel is its own virtual audio device apart from master volume

[pine moss]

maybe this is a sign to make my own app for that

i mean i only want my game and chat, media separated and an easy gui to control all volumes, dont need all that advanced stuff

[signal kite]

well there are sonar shortcuts that can controll all the volume

its just you cant bind the volume wheel to it since they dont work that way

[true stirrup]

hello, i have weird issue with my arctis nova 3, because when i start my computer i hear everything but my microphone isnt working and then if i unplug them and plug again then the microphone works or sometimes still not. i wonder if the headphones are just broken or the there is some bug with sonar idk, (the headphones work perfectly when pluged to phone)

[humble hawk]

Isn't the sonar random crackling a well-known issue? Why aren't there any proper solutions for it? Seems like a software issue rather than hardware because when Sonar is disabled it stops.

[signal kite]

only a few people have mentioned having it

[kindred hedge]

did someone have sonar presets

for mic

[vagrant zephyr]

hi mic is robot me

[blissful flume]

hello

My headphones are Arctis Nova 1, and when I'm talking to my friend, I can't hear my voice. I've tried fixing it through the app, but it's not working. I've checked the cables, and they're in place. The microphone mute button on the back is also working, but there's still no sound.

[granite crow]

how do i disable a like channel ig??

[dreamy meteor]

Hi. I have 2 monitors with speakers, can I use the app to listen to music on both of them at the same times? If yes, how?

[tribal nest]

need someones help pls my mic jsut stopped working one day when disabling sonar now i cart get it to work at all if anyone has any good advise ive tried everything

[tough bramble]

Have you checked in Sound under the recording tab to make sure you mic is there by default? Same in the sound settings themselves.

[tribal nest]

Yeah done that and updated drivers,uninstalled driver reinstalled them deactivated sonar deleted steel series I’ve lost how to fix it I’ve done everything my mic works fine on my xbox so I know it’s good

[jade ore]

Y tf i cant open sonar after update 111.0?

[kind basin]

My slider for game and chat audio moves but no noticeable difference is made, did the most recent update break sonar again?

[trim galleon]

for me, i cant get any audio for anything except my games. the channels are gone and i cant add em

[tough bramble]

So it's not just the app its your whole ass pc then correct?

[trim galleon]

no it might be bc of sonar with the new GG update. im having issues too and i see lots of other ppl having issues mentioning they just updated to 111.0.0

its not his pc. its sonar

[tribal nest]

This is exactly what I’m getting

[trim galleon]

now i cant even open steelseries. its just an infinite loading screen

nope, nvm. i just closed via task manager and reopened it. still have the same issue as before tho

[mystic solstice]

reinstalling fixed the issue for me (make sure you delete the folder after uninstalling)

[brazen burrow]

Hello, I just bought the Arctic GameBuds and the microphone sounds terrible. Do you have any settings recommendations to remove the echo effect? My friends say it sounds like I’m talking from inside a bathroom when I speak. Thanks.

[runic tinsel]

Support for Windows 11 ARM computers with GG SONAR - There now a lot of Windows 11 ARM machines, and that number is rapidly growing. The support documentation says that Windows 11 is supported, but this is a gap in that support. I have the Surface Pro 11 and this is the only thing I've encountered that doesn't have ARM support which includes a few custom device drivers I use for Amateur Radio. And, Voicemeeter has ARM support for its virtual audio devices and that works just fine, so it's definately possible to support ARM. How soon can we expect ARM support? Many thanks!

[violet grail]

I don't work for SteelSeries so I can't know for sure but I feel like I know them pretty well and I personally doubt that will come any time soon and probably never if I'm being honest with you

You can suggest it in #1070392859125104660 so the right people will see it though

[sinful pilot]

hi can anyone help me with my sonar? no media or music can be played through my microphone

[neat hull]

There used to be a chat that had sonar presets. What happened to that channel

nvm, some reason is disappeared for me

[mild silo]

is there a fix for steel series application crashes and sonar not rebooting. been dealing with this for a couple years and tried what i believe to be everything, but you never know.

[twin locust]

Steelseries will not open for me...period.

[shrewd apex]

Reset your PC

[twin locust]

Yeah, I did that like 3 times before it worked.

[shrewd apex]

Dang.

[runic tinsel]

Thanks for the 'feature-requests' suggestion. I was just reading a story yesterday about ARM now becoming mainstream, so I'm hopeful. The article was about Acronis Cyber Protect Cloud now supporting ARM (Acronis is my prefered backup solution). Windows 11 on ARM is indistinguishable from Intel. And I've been pretty amazed at the compatibility with Intel binary software; outside the kernel, everything just works. My favorite video editor suite, Davinci Resolve Studio which has massive capabilities has native ARM support as well (it will run the Intel version as well, but when you do, it stronly suggests using the Native ARM version instead). Inside the kernel, ARM specific drivers are needed. I have a few Amateur radio device interfaces, and there are ARM drivers for everything I've tried for that thus far. In fact, GG runs fine on ARM already, it's only the Sonar virtual device support that's not there yet due to the need for the kernel driver. And, I saw an article a couple of weeks ago saying that most Intel instruction set games now work on Windows 11 ARM too, to which I was very surprised. So I'll remain optimistic! Thanks again!

[analog jay]

Steelseries new update keeps breaking for me. This is so frustrating. I uninstalled and reinstalled a previous version yesterday and today it updated again today and broke again. Will there be a hotfix?

[violet grail]

Make a support ticket on the website if you haven't

[lofty depot]

yo i need help ive been annoyed by this for quite a while now but whenever i boot up my pc steel series sonar puts "steelseries sonar - gaming" as default audio device and i dont want it to happen how do i fix this?

[signal kite]

you can do that by disabling sonar in gg settings

[lofty depot]

but i still need the mic

[signal kite]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ thats just how this is

[lofty depot]

i only downloaded the software for steelseries microphone

[signal kite]

for years people asked for mic only but you either use it all or not rly

[lofty depot]

and whenever i disable the audio options the mic just mutes itself

until i re-enable

anyways ty

[signal kite]

what audio option?

[lofty depot]

steelseries

gaming

1 sec

[signal kite]

so setting the headset as output mutes the mic?

[lofty depot]

no. disabling it does

[signal kite]

something doesint sound right here

[lofty depot]

if i disable any steel series audio device it mutes the mic

like it disables steelseries microphone with it

[signal kite]

hmm guess the software doesint like it

tho you could also learn to use all the sonar outputs if you dont have some software that conflicts with it

or find an alternative for mic supression and eq's

[lofty depot]

yeah tried some other softwares but for some reason this one is the most comfy to use

[signal kite]

which ones did you try

[undone reef]

Heyo!

[junior fossil]

<@&715694455323230328> Hey everyone! Welcome to the Sonar Alpha channels. Take a look at the #read-me-first channel for more info.

We'll drop the link for you to all try Sonar out soon so get ready. 😎

[glad fox]

Ooo

I've been waiting for this

[plucky glacier]

Let's do this :3

[proper furnace]

oh so you guys went with Sonar for the name. Has a nice ring to it

[quasi crescent]

Hype!

[plucky glacier]

I had exactly the same thoughts about it XD

[delicate burrow]

[jade jetty]

👀

[delicate burrow]

Awesome! This will be fun. Any fellow tech writers on the dev team?

[junior fossil]

Don't think so, maybe we have one hiding somewhere 🧐

[civic heath]

Can't wait to test it out! 😄

[undone reef]

We'll find out soon enough, but not exclusive to steelseries headsets right? Would love to try a few out

[delicate burrow]

Ha! Thanks @junior fossil they are sometimes hard to find out in the wild.

[main nebula]

sheeeesh

[barren steeple]

I'm a bit out of touch with sonar, what exactly is it?

[whole loom]

I'm guessing we will download a version which includes everything in moments but with sonar as well?

[junior fossil]

Yep, everything you have now + Sonar

[whole loom]

gotcha

[junior fossil]

Sonar is our new app in Alpha. It allows you to edit your sound really intricately. Adjust EQ to hear footsteps, music, etc..., all to your liking. Also has sound mixing and a ton of other features.

[junior fossil]

Will be usable on all headsets

[undone reef]

Sick, thanks

[barren steeple]

Oooh, sounds cool and really useful, i hate having my games having set very loud and getting my ears destroyed most of the game just to hear some footsteps. Will be really interesting to try it out and check out how it works.

[raven dirge]

Excited for Sonar, definitely gonna be game changing ✊

[delicate burrow]

Now if we are steaming/content creators is there any limitations about discussing or possibly using while live or recording?

[junior fossil]

You can use it while streaming/recording. It's still in Alpha though so there could be issues. I would hold off for a bit before telling people on stream about it

[pale locust]

Yes! Can’t wait to try this out. Been trying to find out what’s been going on with it since I did the survey about the name. I think I went with Sonar as well. 😁 any idea on when we will get our hands on it?

[junior fossil]

No set day but very soon

[pale locust]

Ok. Thanks. Can’t wait to try this with my 9x. 😁

[river oar]

Nice! Can't wait to give it a try!

[serene orbit]

Not talking about the name for the last couple of weeks when some people have asked was kinda hard lel

[zealous otter]

ha, I KNEW @undone reef would be on the first sonar list.

[undone reef]

Haha just here at the time

[calm tapir]

Should it work with games?

And I suggest a rename of this app 😅

[serene orbit]

They had a survey a couple months back, Sonar was the most popular name out of the 10 or so given

[calm tapir]

Wtv happened before, this name is not so accurate to describe it

[undone reef]

It has the right connotations so good enough

[serene orbit]

I personally didn't vote for it but obviously the majority of people liked it so 🙃

[calm tapir]

Probably cause most of them are English ppl

[floral saddle]

I like the name Sonar

[zealous otter]

We had a massive response from our discord community on taking the naming survey and Sonar was the runaway #1 choice from our community. Our panel of gamers was pretty diverse across USA, Europe and Asia, though definitely weighted more with USA representation.

[calm tapir]

Btw, it's just my opinion 😅
Sonar is more accurate to talk about ranging/ tracking system in other languages instead of control sound

[calm tapir]

That's it.

So it's a suggestion, never too late to say when ppl are talking about alpha release, especially when software is not currently tested :)

[floral saddle]

could the name change at any point?

[serene orbit]

If they run another survey and people chose a different name then maybe, but considering Sonar was by far the most popular name in the first one I doubt they'd run another

[undone reef]

It is what we voted for...

[floral saddle]

fair enough

honestly, it's been so long since they did the poll - i can't even remember what I voted for 🤣

[serene orbit]

Neither can I lol

[calm tapir]

Idk, btw it's inside GG so it's not so important.
@melker vote was made before release, comments could change the opinion?

[undone reef]

I mean maybe, but again it's unlikely

[floral saddle]

Yeah if it's just inside GG then it's not a critical thing what it's called

tbh I just look for the icon

or i'm usually just in moments anyway

[calm tapir]

Anyway I forgot to that survey was for that too. It was just a friendly suggestion cause Sonar is definitely not a friendly word in other languages.

[floral saddle]

oh is it not?

[junior fossil]

We already went through all the legal stuff for the name so no way to change it now

[floral saddle]

ah that's fair enough

[calm tapir]

RIP my suggestion 🤣

[serene orbit]

[calm tapir]

Thanks welshy.

More importantly

I hope Dev's are ready

Cause "the unlucky" is not a joke guys!

[floral saddle]

haha

[calm tapir]

@junior fossil knows what I mean.

[floral saddle]

over the past, I've only had a couple of things go wrong with GG

luckily

[serene orbit]

Don't tag mods or staff please

[calm tapir]

Well, ok. MB

[junior fossil]

Yep, we have a lot of people working on it 🙂

[calm tapir]

When can we expect alpha test will appear on GG?

[undone reef]

"Sonar will be going into Alpha in the next few days"

[floral saddle]

Glad I was invited to this btw! 🙂

[calm tapir]

I read it, sometimes it takes more time :)
Can't wait to test it with games and music

[undone reef]

Yeah should be fun

[serene orbit]

I'm just glad to finally be able to set an EQ for my Chat output 😩

[calm tapir]

And MSTeams will knock back all of theses changes just because it's Microsoft 🤣

[serene orbit]

Well Teams is a terrible program in general so obviously it will ruin everything

[calm tapir]

So true ahaha

[balmy scarab]

[raven dirge]

How many years has sonar been in the works vs how long you've wanted to make it, are you allowed to say?

[zealous otter]

so i presented the concept to our board and CEO, sheesh, 4 years ago?

maybe 5 years ago? yea , i think 5

the idea came about when we launched the Arctis line in 2016. everyone on reddit channels was asking how do i tweak my audio to hear footsteps better, etc.

[raven dirge]

damm so a decent amount of time then 😅

[zealous otter]

AND at the same time, we launched the GameDAC, which is awesome with its dual USB endpoints

but what did all the pros say they wanted?

the ability to do customized EQ/audio settings per audio stream (game, and then a different one for EQ)

and the GameDAC couldn't do that

that literally was the first idea for the concept.

this entire tech stack was built from the ground up, so its been a long process

[raven dirge]

Yea, one of the main reasons I use the Elgato Wave mic is for their software for customizing the audio channels etc. which is awesome so I think Sonar is going to be a big hit for people since its usable with anything

[zealous otter]

yea, hopefully ^

[raven dirge]

It sounds and from what I saw it does look good, excited to play around

[zealous otter]

yea, excited to have you all try it out. i'm not joking when i say we have years of features we want to add, but let's see what you guys say you like, you don't like, what you wish Sonar had

[raven dirge]

I'm sure we'll all have a lot of cross over 😅

any talks about a trello board or something?

[zealous otter]

yea, we've been discussing that. for now, the very early alpha, super limited group phase, we'll stick with discord, surveys, emails and other forms of feedback

but we'll evaluate the best way for you guys to give feedback on roadmap ideas going forward

[raven dirge]

Cool 👍

[astral jewel]

wuddup gamers

[undone reef]

Hey 👋

[keen niche]

🌊

[plucky glacier]

Wassup

[delicate burrow]

so where

can i get the app?

[serene orbit]

They'll be a download link in a few days when the alpha goes live

[pliant forge]

is this the audio thingy i took a syrvey on naming it??

[keen niche]

yes

[ebon skiff]

👀

[agile bramble]

👀

EQ will happen in the PC? Not in transmitter or headset

[junior fossil]

Yes

[agile bramble]

Okay, so the EQ works even though I'm using my headset through GOXLR?
Will see how it affects my PC performance, shouldn't be that big of an effect?

[keen niche]

probably not? peace apo barely has any footprint

[plucky glacier]

OwO

[eager patrol]

You definitely will 🙂

[pale locust]

A big thing I hope to have is knowing what sounds are on what frequency. Spent so much time on Reddit trying to find a good basic eq and then trying to fine tune it to really hear footsteps especially over vehicle sounds.

[ebon skiff]

first impressions; seems pretty good

[undone reef]

Feels fluid and pretty intuitive

[leaden moon]

a couple of options to setup your Discord or other apps....

we're in the process of writing up a bunch of quick and easy FAQs etc (as well and working on streamlining the onboarding of Sonar in app). Any suggestions or questions that you have etc, please let us know. It will help us identify which FAQs are relevant and/or areas in the product we need to provide more direction on.

You should also just be able to use the Discord default settings (as when you turn on Sonar it defaults your Windows audio device to Sonar - Game and Windows communication devices to the Sonar - Chat and Sonar Mic virtual devices)

ala...

the above also applies to any other apps

[river oar]

I already have setup a whole bunch of Eqs for my Arctis Pro and have no idea where to begin in translating them into the new system but love it nonetheless! I just have to take my time I guess to fully check it out. The part where I'm most exited about it the noise gate though, finally able to make it so you don't hear heavy breathing in the background of my clips, a thing I've been suggesting since day one of the GG beta 😉 Awesome work! Exited for what more is to come!

[leaden moon]

^ thanks for the insight re converting existing Engine configs....immediate short term, that feels like a good FAQ. I like the idea of smoothing that out with some automation. Ie turning the 5/10 band EQ configs into the Sonar parametric EQ equivalents as a good baseline to work from.

[civic heath]

I'm starting to toy with setting, but as mentioned above, I'm ecstatic over the noise gate! I have asthma and it always bothered me, that I had to tinker with audio input, just so I won't embarass myself with Darth Vader breathing

(Also, so far menus are great atm, very clear to understand what every option means etc.)

I tried to paste a link to project I mentioned, comment got deleted, sorry guys - anyway, here I go tinkering!

[mighty estuary]

https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results

[river oar]

Welp can't get it working with the noise gate.. Nothing seems to make a difference

Have moments and windows both on the Sonar chat as mic

Would be nice if there was an option to listen to your mic and test live how it will sound in a clip. Because now I have to use the windows listen to this device function and just keep making clips and listening to them

[leaden moon]

@river oar - do you have it set to 'Sonar - Chat' or the 'Sonar - Microphone' as your input/mic device?

[river oar]

In GG

In windows Playback

And lastly recording

[leaden moon]

yeh that setup all looks right

[river oar]

I can't hear people in discord fsr

I can hear the join sound and messages

But no voices

And my friends tell me I sound like I'm talking through a can Xd

When using the sonar devices that is, when going back to the standard arctis pro settings it's fine again

[floral saddle]

i'm having the same problem

although I can't dm atm to get it sorted out atm

[civic heath]

Aight, so far so good, no bugs on me, I'm really happy with additional audio boost settings, as addition to parametric eq. On Mic, my friends also enjoy new "me" on mic, apparently there is no issues with my audio, only improvements. And breathing is gone 😄 As a point of reference, I'm using Arctis 5 2019 Edition

Also on music playground, I'm mostly listening to Metal/Rock, no problems here as well.

Also games are recognizing Sonar. In case of Phasmophobia, it picked up Sonar and recognized my voice - no issues there. As a small print - Soundpad, audio bind software is working well with Sonar!

One thing, that is not really working is impact noise reduction on my receiving end, I still heard my friend that was mashing his mechanical keyboard

[surreal veldt]

The equalizer in game mode is really nice to play around with! Also I noticed that if i have Nvidia Broadcast running with room echo on it made my discord extremely choppy with my microphone settings. Once I turned that off and lowered my noise reduction my discord sounded a lot clearer.

[surreal veldt]

just curious, is Sonar competing with the SS Engine Arctis Pro Wireless Configs?

[oak topaz]

The Engine configs will still be useful for configuring for things like consoles but for PC usage we're planning on working better with Engine configs.

Also it isn't mentioned anywhere yet but if you're using the EQ settings in Sonar then you should change the EQ settings in Engine for your device to be flat.

[raven dirge]

from now on when i get called a cheater this will be my reply

"#GGSonar free download steelseries.com/gg"

[leaden moon]

ha....I've been playing a lot of warzone lately with Sonar. I can say the hot-mics have been hilarious!

I might need to make a montage of moments clips....

[raven dirge]

haha 😅

[whole loom]

just the concept of that is funny to me, being staff and having access to unreleased software that has been years in the making

[glad fox]

I was going to test sonar when I get back from school, but apparently my arctis pro has other plans :|

I already sent a support ticket but I'll have to glue it together still

[lucid fulcrum]

@glad fox I guess my Arctis Pro had the same idea, took it off and it bent and broke the same way

[glad fox]

It's a weak point, many people experience that

[lucid fulcrum]

very unfortunate, i was literally getting off for the night now i'm just gonna lay in bed thinking about it

sent a ticket in, hopefully everything comes out fine

[glad fox]

Does your gamedac turn off when you don't use it?

@lucid fulcrum

It should after some time of not touching it

[lucid fulcrum]

Hm I don't know tbh, I have it monitoring my PC temp so I don't think I've seen it turn off @glad fox

[glad fox]

Because my OLED is always burnt because of it

Already*

[eager patrol]

They're not competing. Sonar is meant for PC gaming while Engine is more for Console/On-the-go use (as it stores setting on device). Sonar though gives you much more tuning capabilities and effects

[calm tapir]

Have a question about Sonar and Engine.
If i setup my headset with Engine, does it means Sonar doesn't care about it? should i have to erase Engine setup for my headset?
i'm a bit confused

[keen niche]

They'll both apply

So set engine to base eq levels

If you want to use sonar

[calm tapir]

mmm, ok

If both apply, does that mean Sonar has priority?

[undone reef]

Neither does

[eager patrol]

Correct. an example: if you set +1 db on a certain frequency in Engine and you do the same in Sonar as a result you'll have +2db on that frequency

[calm tapir]

so i can let sonar equalizer with default setup and use Engine and vice & versa, right?

[eager patrol]

correct! Of course we suggest to use Engine for console/on-the-go listening and Sonar for PC gaming

this is because with Sonar you'll have much more options

[calm tapir]

but can we use different setups with macros / shorcuts inside Engine?

have a SS keyboard with lot of macros keys. i'm using it with 2 setups : working and gaming.
If i press one key, i switch all of my setups (keyboard, qck prism, mouse, and Headset)

it would be great if i can do it with sonar too

[eager patrol]

Got it, yes, that makes a lot of sense

This is not in Sonar right now though

[calm tapir]

ok ok

So Sonar is definitely like VB Audio / Voicemeeter

Can i deactivate only one peripheral ? Sonar - Chat, for example, and activate Gaming / microphone?

cause i don't understand why microphone is here 😛

[supple heart]

Chat = Discord, team chat routed to your headphones (control how they sound)

Mic = Your own microphone, how you sound when talking to team mates

[calm tapir]

my own microphone is normally not listed here, so i don't get it

[supple heart]

Hmm

Ohh, right this is in your outputs tab obviously

okay not sure about that :D one of the devs might have an idea about what's going on

[delicate burrow]

Hey ,
No, this render (called "microphone") endpoint is necessary to let the Sonar Microphone Device working.
If you disable it , the Sonar Microphone won't works, and you won't be able to get FX for your microphone

[calm tapir]

got you, it's a normal feature, just have to ignore it 🙂 thanks

[calm tapir]

what's the difference between gaming equalizer and chat equalizer?
I thought bands were channels (like for streaming etc.)i was wrong obviously, but i don't understand it. it looks like more setups but i have less control to setup sound / music like normal equalizer, maybe i'm just a noob with this hard control setup haha

[civic heath]

As for chat / gaming, on my case, with Arctis 5 I have a switch that lets me control which volume output is louder etc. through mix. Gaming output is general use, like for music/gaming/all of standard stuff. Chat is for apps like discord, where You have only voices from Your friends/people on discord and You might want to crank up some bass for some peeps, while not touching bass in game

[calm tapir]

Well that's not my question, maybe i'm just too bad to explain it ahaha

the visual of both equalizers are different, very different.

i don't understand the "band" system in gaming equalizer, a bit more complicated than chat equalizer

[tender sigil]

in short, with the gaming EQ (parametric) you are able to apply more fine-tune and specific adjustments to each band. EX: being able to adjust your Q and filter types etc. vs the normal 10-band EQ where you are limited to controlling the dB up and down. Hope this helps explain a little, please play around with it and ultimately if things are confusing, I would love to hear about your experience and get some feedback from you directly. 😄 Cheers.

[calm tapir]

To be honest, it's probably more about language / my own understanding (cause currently in eng. obviously) than other things 😛

can we setup "master" as default volume control instead of both gaming / chat volume control for Windows?

[calm tapir]

i tried to adjust gaming equalizer like Engine, with some bands in the same frequency to be more "accurate" with my original setup, but it's definitely sounds very different.
Engine is less powerful but clean and clear
Sonar is more powerful but more blurry and less clear.
Is the difference caused by some bands in the same frequency?

[eager patrol]

You can achieve the same result but you will need to use not only the same frequency and db for each of the same bands (as you already did) but also use the same Q factor for each of the bands.
In Engine (like in in any standar EQ) the Q factor is not exposed.

This is also why with Sonar you have much more control

[calm tapir]

Are we talking about dynamic range compression?

this feature under engine equalizer

idk what's the Q factor btw 🤣

or at least, can we not use all of bands?

I don't know how to have a better sound, sounds always blurry with no clues how to adjust it

[oak topaz]

the parametric EQ exposes a lot of technical parts that the normal 5/10 band EQs hide away

basically they change how different frequencies in audio are boosted or silenced in your audio. it doesn't have anything to do with "channels" like left/right/center/etc.

"Q factor" is a generic value that changes how "strong" a filter is, and how quickly it ramps up/down to the target values. you can see how changing the Q factor changes how gradual or sharp the line changes

it's definitely something that could warrant some guides on how to use though

[calm tapir]

at the moment i just can't seem to get a clearer and distinct sound, the music sounds louder and stronger but not clear

[plucky glacier]

Morning guys

[undone reef]

Hey

[pale locust]

Hey everyone. Trying to use sonar with my 9x. When I go to get sonar setup, it doesn’t show in the drop down box. Is it not supported?

[pale locust]

@leaden moon can you shed some light on my problem? GG sees my 9x but sonar doesn’t.

[raven dirge]

Don't tag staff.

Have you tried unplugging and plugging it back in and restarting GG?

Also have you tried a reboot of the PC?

[pale locust]

Yes. Multiple times. Even tried reinstalling again. Still doesn’t show in drop down box.

[raven dirge]

Hmm weird, i'll let one of the devs talk to you then 😅

[pale locust]

Very weird. Can find anything on what headsets are supported.

[raven dirge]

Any headset is supported, its not SS exclusive

[pale locust]

Ok. Not sure why it won’t pick up my 9x though.

[leaden moon]

Hey @pale locust - yeh the 9x should be appearing in the drop down. Can I dm you to get some additional info to see if we can work out what's going on?

[pale locust]

Sure. I also tried on a different PC and all that found was the internal sound card.

[raven dirge]

I have to say, I'm in love how I can just change something or switch to another profile/config and it JUST switches

[delicate burrow]

...

so is sonar a product

or a software

[undone reef]

Software

[delicate burrow]

is it out alr?

[undone reef]

Well yeah

[delicate burrow]

for testers

[undone reef]

It's in alpha

[delicate burrow]

where?

can i download it?

[undone reef]

#876900856803520523

[delicate burrow]

it said

i needed a password

o never mind

im blind

[leaden moon]

Hey folks - how's everyone experience going so far with the first alpha release? Any basic compatibility issues or things that are straight up preventing Sonar from working? Interested to hear if anyone has chosen to not to continue to use it. And if so, why?

[delicate burrow]

apart from the initial download everything seems to be going great 😄

theres a few fetautres though i wish were there

[leaden moon]

^ thanks - just saw your post on the request channel

[undone reef]

All smooth for me 👍

[raven dirge]

Yup, no issues so far 😎

[blissful drum]

it works with apple music on my pc, but i cant get it working with apple music on my laptop. I think the problem is on my side

[eager patrol]

what kind of error do you get on your laptop?

[blissful drum]

the music doesnt go trough sonar instead it goes through the normal speaker

[eager patrol]

may I DM you to understand better your issue?

[civic heath]

I was pretty vocal about my experiences so far 😄 At the moment, I love it, only thing I need to remember is switching back between speakers and headphones 😉 Can't wait to test more/report 😉

[blissful drum]

yea sure

[glad fox]

Hi @tender sigil, didn't expect to see you in sonar team 👀

[undone reef]

Hasn't he been involved the whole time?

[plucky glacier]

0-0

[calm tapir]

For now, the only "problem" is the menu system, not so friendly for the beginning.
Easier ways, shortcuts would be great.
And I think it's definitely a problem that "master" volume doesn't appear in Win10 system, cause we can't controll all of sounds with keyboard shortcuts, only for one of theses channels (chat or gaming).
Otherwise, it's very clean and I have no issues :)

Plus, GG has no problem with Sonar activated OR deactivated, so it's great

Personally a so much better experience than... Moments ahaha 😅

[eager patrol]

Thank you Sephi! For menu system you mean the global UI? I would love to hear more about what is not friendly and what could make it friendly for you (feel free to DM me)

[whole loom]

really nice being able to control the mixing on the arctis pro with the sonar gaming/chat output as if they were the headset gaming/chat output

although that might just be a coincidence

[delicate burrow]

wait so steelseries sonar thingy has gaming sound thing and a chat one

wuts the point

if u can only hear only one at a time through ur headphones

[serene orbit]

Except it can output both sources at the same time, like if you have your game playing through the Game output and your Discord call playing through the Chat output. Alternatively you could be like me and set your browser/streaming app to the Chat output and be watching a show or YouTube video on a second monitor while playing a game on your main monitor

Sonar just lets you customize the EQ of the Chat output (among lots of other new and useful audio mixing features) which you aren't able to do in the basic Engine software

[uneven solar]

Nope. Any headset!

[uneven solar]

I feel you on this. I also have asthma. Hyped to hear this!

[ocean rampart]

whats up 🙂

[eager patrol]

hey 🙂

[river oar]

😳 update

[leaden moon]

soon @river oar - we ran a little test this morning on ensuring that our update pathways for Sonar are all working. There are one or two more things we need to smooth out. You may however have been lucky enough to catch that update at the same time we were running our live test...in which case....Enjoy early access to our next release (or what is close our next release) 🙂

[civic heath]

Aight, I'm on new version, so far no problems 😄

[delicate burrow]

OMG

Are u saying

I can have 2 headsets at the same time?!?!?!?!

Omg I love steelser8es

[undone reef]

Well that's the same with many steelseries headsets, in this case you still just need 2 channels/audio devices

[uneven solar]

Moments in action! First time playing Fortnite... total out of this world experience 🎞️ Decided to let my daughter play with me the last two games. That was awesome. We switched out who was wearing my Arctis 7, controlling mouse, keyboard, etc.

[ocean rampart]

"store.steampowered.com/app/917720/Gamedec/"

The EpiC "GameDEC" 😄

[uneven solar]

Okay y'all... we’ve officially started our blog writing on Sonar! Anybody willing to share how you’ve been using Parametric EQ?…

How did you approach it? What did you adjust first? Are you able to trace your enemy's footsteps, reloads and bomb defusing better? 💥 We're looking for practical stuff… not just how to tune everything. However, if you do have some configs that are working well—feel free to share!! 💯 Our goal is to make Sonar not just easy for everyone to use, but highlight how it transforms your gameplay. Feel free to ping me directly, if you prefer.

[lone rose]

when yall are using sonar, are yall noticing a popping sound in your headset? my pro wireless are getting some kind of popping/buzzing feedback

i dont notice it in the default audio sources, and its only when using soar, but i cant seem to shake it

[blissful drum]

nope im not hearing any popping noise

[delicate burrow]

Might be a peaking issue?

[zealous otter]

I wonder if it’s audio clipping? What EQ do you have the Arctis pro wireless set on board? You might want to try and choose the flat EQ on the APW and then have Sonar do the audio processing

[delicate burrow]

Great minds 😄

[zealous otter]

Ha ha ha

@lone rose does that make sense? If you have multiple EQs with lots of gain at certain frequencies it could eventually cause “audio clipping”

Which is generally described as a popping or cutting in/cutting out noise

[delicate burrow]

Although not directly Sonar related, I have noticed having issues with my Prism mousepad turning itself off on the Sonar GG build. Not sure if that is a cause or not but thought I would let you know.

[zealous otter]

Let us know if it helps! This is exactly the type of feedback we need so we can think about how to smooth out the Sonar + Arctis hardware user experience.

[river oar]

Donwload link maybe? Because I pressed download in the app and now it refuses to launch... So I have to reinstall it for the 30th time this week.

[eager patrol]

You can reinstall the version 0.1 (https://steelseries.box.com/s/wwj26bspgw668baixaytp08ak14ccw3e). Then you should shortly get the notification to update. At this time do not use the update button for Sonar alpha update

[river oar]

Thanks it worked by downloading it again!

Question: Does Sonar auto switch to a profile when playing a game? Like I'd like to try the CS:GO profile you guys added but I don't want that all the time when just using my pc. Is this already a thing? And if not is this a thing you guys would look into in the future?

[eager patrol]

Currently Sonar does not automatically switch the profile, you need to do it manually. It is definitely something we could look into in the future.

[calm tapir]

I was hoping to see an option to have presets for more than theses 3 games, cause i don't play valo,cs or apex :/ all deleted

don't let updates reset our presets, please team dev

I must admit that having to start all over again discourages me a little

[eager patrol]

Totally get your point more game presets are coming and we'll improve the preset management

[civic heath]

On my end, my saved setting persisted, it only erased default one, which I experimented with

[tender sigil]

Happy Friday Sonar Testers! We need your assistance on something. The link below will take you to a quick little card sorting exercise which will provide us with some valuable feedback. It is very short so should only take 2 to 4 minutes max.

Just click the link below and sort each card into a category that makes sense to you. Do what comes naturally, there are no wrong answers. Thanks @everyone and have a wonderful weekend!
https://t.maze.co/54363455

[calm tapir]

Too complicated for ppl like me

Questions are not clear for me

Like auto noise gate what is this? 😬

I answered but definitely not a clear poll. We asked for explanations through sonar and you make a poll before explanations ahaha 😅

Hope you will try this poll AFTER explanations!

[civic heath]

I mean, there is a question mark next to every option I guess

[calm tapir]

They told us we will have a guide.
Hard for me to understand how to use it. Don't understand what is auto noise gate exactly btw

[civic heath]

Noise gate is a function, that wont process Your audio untill it is loud enough, to put it simply

[calm tapir]

<<< definitely a French noob with sound softwares 😅

[civic heath]

No problems 😉 While parametric equalizer may be overwhelming, rest is quite simple 😄 Don't be afraid to toy around and experiment

[calm tapir]

Yeah. I realized today that if I boost some bands more than 8db, it's harder to control volume exactly. I don't feel changes between 100 / 60% cause of this.
Definitely want a clearer sound but actually it feels more like I have a bad filter before headset

It sounds like behind a wall or a door, not enough clear for me (metaphor)

[tender sigil]

Thank you for participating, if it was hard for you to understand that is EXACTLY the thing we are trying to capture here and solve for so what you did is perfect!

[tender sigil]

Thank you to everyone who took the time to complete this quick exercise. If you have not, please take a minute to complete it today as we will be closing this out and summarizing the results. Thank you!
https://t.maze.co/54363455

[raven dirge]

All these EQ questions on the subreddit

[upper herald]

Hi Guys, thought I'd join in with helping to test this after getting the email invite 🙂

[raven dirge]

https://tenor.com/LhvI.gif

[delicate burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/impressed-awsome-gif-21682147

[upper herald]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[delicate burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-screaming-excited-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-gif-12412662

[ebon skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/sogga-binguscord-bongus-floppa-image-perms-gif-20293409

[molten helm]

ayyyy just got my mail

cant to wait to test :p

[upbeat wraith]

yeee

its quite cool

perhaps i will be able to hear stuff in games without having to become deaf

[raven dirge]

[upbeat wraith]

anyway, do you guys know if theres any way to preview your mic EQ in sonar itself?

[raven dirge]

nope, #sonar-feature-requests request?

[upbeat wraith]

oh alright, i suppose ill send a request then

[raven dirge]

best way for now would be to use listen to this device in windows sound properties

[upbeat wraith]

oh yeah i was looking for that tab

i knew i had seen it before

so thanks

[raven dirge]

np

[molten helm]

***pov : you realize , that you play rarely fps games but mostly sim-racing games , and this software will be more useful for music or videos ***

im jk

[raven dirge]

haha

[molten helm]

ima try to make it useable for sim-racing

[upbeat wraith]

you can really use it for anything

[molten helm]

i will try to make the rev's more audible

[molten helm]

yeah that's what i like

[whole loom]

audio is important in racing games

the better the audio, the more realistic

especially with f1 games

[molten helm]

no led ? rev sound !

[raven dirge]

hear those cars behind you 👀

[molten helm]

enjoy the epic sound of cars 🤤

ngl i will try to make something for in assetto corsa or f1 2021

[whole loom]

i've messed around with it in 2021

[molten helm]

👀

[whole loom]

sounds a lot better but not by a large margin yet

[molten helm]

the honda sound must be the same

[leaden moon]

🙂 looking forward to sharing the Sonar warzone preset for folks like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/steelseries/comments/pxizhf/what_eq_settings_would_be_best_for_playing_call/

[alpine raft]

I never hear footsteps in warzone, I really need this 😄

[leaden moon]

next Sonar release....sneak peak

[alpine raft]

Uuh

[leaden moon]

definitely give it a shot and let us know what you think

[molten helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/734522730279469087.png?size=60&size=40

[whole loom]

never realised we could just right click the bands

until watching the video in the email

[raven dirge]

maybe we need an interactive tutorial when you first launch 👀

[molten helm]

hm , maybe yeah

[lilac gulch]

is there a way to listen to the changes you've made on the equalizer in audio / microphone within the sonar app

[raven dirge]

nope, iv requested that

[lilac gulch]

ah

[vital haven]

Can't wait for this

[blissful drum]

ooh nice

[vital haven]

Is the install update button broken for anyone else?

[junior fossil]

In the settings?

[raven dirge]

mine is fine

[vital haven]

yeah

im pressing it

but nothing is happening

[raven dirge]

what version you on atm?

this is what it does

[vital haven]

Im on 0.1.0

It does the check and shows theres an update

but when clicking install update

it just doesnt do anythign

thing

[raven dirge]

have you installed the sonar version of GG?

[vital haven]

yes from the email

[raven dirge]

look in #876900856803520523 and try install that build

[vital haven]

is there a way to force update it manually

like is there a download i can get for 0.2.1

?

[raven dirge]

nah not that i know

[leaden moon]

@vital haven - yep correct the install button isn't working in 0.2.1 after the download is done

We'll get a fix in for that shortly

In the meantime if your screen goes to sleep that will trigger an auto-update

[upper herald]

Not sure if I'm a minority but mine updated from 0.1.0 to 0.2.1 by just click the install button in about

After it finished downloading

[vital haven]

Finally managed to get it to update

can't wait for the next update with more game presets

[eager patrol]

it's coming pretty soon

[vital haven]

🙂

[sudden warren]

So, when turning down the mic volume, the levels still show it going into the red even when i turn it all the way down?

[eager patrol]

That's fine, currently the volume level still knows that your HS mic is picking up some audio but if the volume is to zero or mute this won't be outputted. If you check it's the same for Gaming and Chat: if you turn down the volume you won't hear anymore but if the game is still playing you'll see its level

[brave lily]

How do I install Sonar?

[sudden warren]

Ahh okay, cool 🙂 thanks.

[undone reef]

You'll have received an email, or scroll up in #876900856803520523

[eager patrol]

You can find the link to download the first alpha in the update channel here #876900856803520523 then you will be automatically updated to the 0.3 shortly

[brave lily]

It says the file's been removed from box.com

[hasty veldt]

Im having the same issue?

[eager patrol]

I see, gonna get an updated link ASAP

[vital haven]

all updated

[molten helm]

i tested a bit and made the sound in Assetto Corsa a bit bether

but i feel like , it make the sound "fake"

uhm

help what's the frequency by default ?
edit : found it and kinda actually made it bether by changing the filter type

[verbal kettle]

So I updated and was keen to see how the cod Warzone profile worked. Maybe I’m mossing something but the footsteps aren’t that great. What sound profile should be set ‘in game’ ie home theatre/dynamic theatre etc?

[leaden moon]

I use boost low with the warzone preset

[leaden moon]

hey folks- heads up. we have paused the 0.3.0 rollout as we have a few issues reported that the Sonar UI isn't loading after the update (though audio still routing etc). We'll look into it asap and expect an update early next week. For those few already through onto 0.3.0, please let us know if you have any issues etc. Thanks for your patience while we squash some of these early alpha bugs!

[verbal kettle]

No ui issues here

[river oar]

For me the engine UI isn't loading any of the configuration screens for my devices. This is really annoying as my dpi is stuck at the wrong setting...

Just looks like this for all of them...

fyi for me sonar is the only thing working as normal...

A reinstall of 0.2.1 fixed the issue

[delicate burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dwyane-johnson-the-rock-pancake-gif-21362945

@leaden moon Pancakes

[leaden moon]

Getem

[leaden moon]

thanks for letting us know. We'll also look into this.

[civic heath]

Oh, actually same for me, after going inside device settings

[latent patrol]

hey

[undone reef]

Yo

[raven dirge]

https://tenor.com/uMsT.gif

[vital haven]

I had this issue, I fixed it by going on the settings and disabling then re-enabling sonar

[verbal kettle]

@leaden moon @vital haven this didn't work for me, only realised there was a problem when opening other device settings. RE: feedback for Sonar, if you load an eq profile and adjust it, the reset button blanks the equaliser rather than reseting it to the saved profile - a reinstall is the only way to get saved game profiles back.

@leaden moon Sonar feature request - it's difficult to know what to change in terms of equaliser - would be good to have a sound frequency monitor on screen while running a game, so you can see which sounds are producing which frequencies and therefore know which to boost and which to lower

[undone reef]

#sonar-feature-requests

[raven dirge]

Moments version is the same as public build correct?

[leaden moon]

yep correct

assuming you are on Sonar Alpha 0.2.1 or later

[civic heath]

Hey everyone! I've moved onto Windows 11, in the future I will be mostly operating from this OS, so my reports will be coming from this version of OS, if that is ok 😄

[eager patrol]

perfect 🙂

[vital haven]

Not sure if its normal but my volume level normally is set quite low but in order to hear things using the sonar setting it has to be at 100% is that meant to happen?

[jade needle]

I have to say, I've been using Windows 11 since June

GG has been running flawlessly. Not a single issue.

Although you do want to be aware of using this sonar alpha though; it does have its quirks here and there that will make you scratch your head. Like audio suddenly not playing anymore etc lol

[jade needle]

same for me. pretty sure its intended

[jade needle]

@civic heath should also warn you; Windows 11 is EXTREMELY performance demanding

I have no clue how MS messed up this bad, but just know that. Even Windows Audio (used to play media from your device) uses over 20% of your cpu...

You can see just what I mean in that image alone. 85% CPU and 47% RAM (scary part is that I have 16GB!) with 1 application open (Discord). Your luck may be better, but, I wish you well.

[civic heath]

Daamm. On me, it is pretty timid, though I've noticed some gpu memory spikes. I'm on 8700k, rtx 2080s and 16gbs of ram

Also, it is installed on nvme

[whole loom]

you’ve all got balls to trust windows

someone I know tried windows 10 when it first came out and it killed two gpu bios’

[raven dirge]

Win11 is mostly just a UI overhaul not too much changed compared to 10 in retrospect

[eager patrol]

yes actually Sonar 100% volume=the actual volume of your HS at the time you setup it as sonar endpoint

[jade needle]

you can say that again haha

Especially trying early launches of new operating systems; it's pretty scary

[whole loom]

how come you decided to try it?

live on the wild side?

I like how the tasbar looks on it, I run taskbarx that essentially does the same on windows 10

[river oar]

I just wished there was an option to put the windows icon in the bottom left and the rest of the taskbar in the middle (in window 11 i mean).

[river oar]

For some reason sonar muted my game device from my Arctis Pro when updating to 0.4, but did switch to the sonar device automatically. So I was confused why there was no sound after the update because all of my sonar settings seemed fine. But after switching to the Arctis Pro Game device and unmuting this it was fixed. Just a weird thing that happend, though I'd mention it. But it could be a weird one off thing. PS: this also happed to the Chat device, had to unmute this one as well.

[jade needle]

Its just something I like doing

If I can get into something early, I can see how it might work in the end. Gives me better judgment

Although in my case I was doomed. Windows 11 was kind of like getting sick in the winter...

Lol

Although the good news at least is that AMD and Microsoft are collaborating on software fixes to improve performance

[whole loom]

that'd be nice but I think the icon is part of the taskbar through and through

[whole loom]

the performance is really that bad?

[jade needle]

Mhm

Genuinely. Windows 11 + Intel is basically just like windows 10 performance

...but windows 11 + amd. Sure, runs fine enough, but even trying to play games can result in a 20% performance loss (at most; usually 10-15%)

They messed up something and amds cpus just aren't working correctly anymore on 11. Hence there collaboration and promise to try and get something working by the end of the month. If not this, next.

[serene orbit]

That's what happens when Microsoft and Intel get together to make an OS. Of course it's going to be bad on AMD

[blissful drum]

Can anybody else update yet?

[upper herald]

Still on 0.4.0

For me

[civic heath]

Ok, I'm on 10 version, so far, everything works!

[blissful drum]

same for me

[quaint plume]

I have been using this for a few weeks and honestly nothing bad to say of Sonar. You guys really outdone yourself on this one.

[undone reef]

I can second that, I'm enjoying using it

[serene orbit]

I just started using it with the new GG update and it's been pretty solid so far. I'm definitely enjoying using the custom mic EQ and filters on my Yeti

[uneven solar]

Thanks for the feedback you guys!! ❤️‍🔥💯 Keep it comin’

[vital haven]

I have had an issue with the Mic when in games like CSGO, when using Sonar as the main volume device my ingame mic just doesnt work and when i switch back to the normal steelseries headset as an output device the mic works as normal

not sure if anyone else experienced it

[undone reef]

#sonar-feature-requests

[civic heath]

I absolutely love broadcast low pitch preset for microphone, whoever made this - Thank You from the bottom of my heart!

Also no issues on my end at the moment!

[leaden moon]

Thanks for the feedback. We have an amazing audio R&D team who have been hard at work on the game and mic presets. More to come...

[ashen drift]

Do you think it's possible to add a mute hotkey for the mic?

[serene orbit]

Anyone else using Sonar with a USB mic? I've just noticed when I have it enabled with my Blue Yeti there's a very audible background hiss in recordings. It stays persistent even if it's just being used by Sonar without an EQ or any additional filters. There's no hiss when recording with the Yeti itself not through Sonar

[junior fossil]

soon

[silk grove]

How do I make the overall volume on sonar louder

I ahve the mixer maxed out aswell as volume on my PC but its sooo much quiter then my standard headset

[raven dirge]

It's a common issue atm

[ashen drift]

Make your sonar to 0% (Gaming & Chat)
Change the Output in Windows to Headset (Normal) and do vol. 100%.
And now you change Windows output to Steelseries - Sonar ... output again.
You can set the volume higher in Sonar and it should be better. (It works for me )

[fair urchin]

Are there any plans to integrate Sonar and Moments together? It would be super nice if moments had audio tracks like the "gaming" and "chat" so when playing with friends and grabbing clips I can choose if I want their chattering kept in or not

[serene orbit]

Turning moments into a more robust editor along with better audio manipulation (like track volume and independent game and mic levels for capture) would definitely be welcome

[fair urchin]

It's already got super handy features for sharing the clips easily (looking at you GeForce Share)

[serene orbit]

Yeah, unfortunately for whatever reason I have a lot of trouble with the native uploading to YouTube, giffycat, etc. Like 9/10 times the upload fails for me and I've never figured out why

[calm tapir]

TBH, i have too many issues cause GG, Engine, Moments and Sonar are in the same software. Too many bugs, problems, etc.
I prefer have softwares separately instead of "one for all"

[delicate burrow]

Hi @serene orbit I recommand to share your Moments issue in the Moments dedicated room 🙂 It will be better tracked than here

[river oar]

Same. I stopped using Sonar and Moments... I have been in the GG beta since week one and have had problems all along the way. Of course beta's are known to have problems, but I also have had loads of problems with the already released software. I switched back to NVIDIA Instant Replay, together with NVIDIA Broadcast for the mic noise suppression and it works wayyy better. Been using it for 2 weeks, no issue. It only doensn't have the handy exporting tools for sharing, but everything else 'just works' as supposed to Moments and Sonar.

[calm tapir]

Tried to explain this but the problem is still the same, all in one without a solid base software as GG is supposed to be...
I never had problem with Engine until GG, but "it's not GG"

[supple heart]

I know you’ve been around since day 1 and your feedback has been really valuable- it’s hella annoying for us, that we can’t find a way to fix it for you. We want to

But it really isn’t GG. We have millions users on the platform who use it regularly without issues

We’re not saying it’s all perfect, we know we have work to do and the team is at it every day 💪

The future is to evolve GG and its apps into something even better than it is today and fix bugs that come up along the way 😉

We could’ve kept Engine in its old state, but eventually it would’ve left it feeling like software of the past. Tech is always changing and developing and we want to be ahead of the game… it’s in our DNA after all

[calm tapir]

with the issues I had, it's pretty much normal to think GG is the problem in my situation.
I just hope now Engine will be more stable soon.
(And will have a new design like GG / moments / Sonar design?)

[supple heart]

Yeah I understand how you make that link. And surely there is some connection but it’s got more to do with the fact that we’re hard at work innovating our software than it has to do with GG. In other words if we only worked on Engine by itself you would likely also have had issues.

See it as growing pains. It’s not an excuse, we don’t want you to have issues. I’m just trying to give some context

A redesign of Engine is on the roadmap but not near future

[upper herald]

Coming from IT myself, it's almost impossible to account for every different variation of software hardware combo out there so bugs will always exist 😛

(It's very easy to map a profile of a person based on unique factors every machine has)

[eager patrol]

yes this will come

[delicate burrow]

Hi

[worldly perch]

Hi, i have been using sonar for a week now since i discoverd the audio devices we’re turned off in windows i googled it and boom I’m a sonar user now and i love the software.. if it didn’t have some annoying bugs like when equalising, the app will sometimes just jump back to the main tab instead of staying on the gaming tab where i was working. Now i would also love if you added these :

shorcut keys for the chatmix and switching between eqs. Since I cant always get out of the game window into sonar and then back into the game hoping I didn’t disconnect these would be a really nice addition making it also usable with a streamdeck (i think 🤔(i dont actually own one))

Then maybe detachable windows like in obs where you can grab the different windows and position them into custom places, for example: i would be able to set the chatmix slider over discord without having the full sonar window open just a small window for the chatmix slider would be great

Thanks

[calm tapir]

any idea to have sonar again? 😦

i reinstall GG and now i don't have it

[serene orbit]

Make sure you're opted in for the beta software through settings, restart GG then at the top of the home page you should see a banner advertising Sonar, click on that and it should allow you to set it up again

[calm tapir]

thanks.

[silk grove]

is it just me or did the low audio issue of sonar get fixed in the last few days?

[raven dirge]

I haven't noticed a difference

[lunar linden]

Hello, I am on the Immerse Gamepack for FFXIV trial, using my Arctis 7 Wireless headset. How does that interact with Sonar? Are there optimal settings? Should I set the device to the standard Arctis 7 driver rather that the Sonar?

[stuck marsh]

Needing some help with the arctis pro wireless and sonar, I used to have two audio outputs game and chat, now they merged into one output and I want to split them again. There are two sound devices in the audio devices that resemble those old outputs but they don't seem to function

[delicate burrow]

hi im having a problem with xbox game bar detecting sonar for my arctis pro wireless

[cyan dune]

Hey team when using sonar for warzone what should my in game audio preset be

[leaden moon]

Hey MegaJoshh - There is a gaming preset tailored for warzone 'Sonar preset - COD warzone'

[cyan dune]

Understood but what about the in-game audio preset?

[leaden moon]

You could run that as default as the preset will adjust accordingly. I've also personally used 'bass - low' in game, with the Sonar preset....but that's more just personal preference.

[wet arch]

anyone know a good eq for warzone at all ? the warzone preset dont seem to do the job right ???!?? ❤️

[blissful drum]

whats the problem with the preset? I haven't tried it yet so i have no idea if it's any good.

[vocal forge]

that sonar so loud like its crashing my ears(apex FPS Rainbow six

[green gale]

hey i got a problem, every time i select steelseries sonar, i dont hear sounds, it says true the bars that there needed to be sounds but i dont hear m, if i select steelseries 7+ i hear them again, but i cant use sonar rn!

[outer siren]

can you somehow create shortcut to add more volume to game and more to chat?

[sacred minnow]

Ayo, anyone made a preset for Rust and/or dead by daylight?

[vocal forge]

you have to choose (SteelSeriies Sonar- Gaming ) not steelserise 7+ bro

[vocal forge]

and also Escape from Tarkov as well thx ❤️

[worldly perch]

Anyone have fix when sonar mic doesn’t ouput anything at all? the mic without sonar does work great (it’s a steelseries arctis 3). But since the mic sounded better with sonar it would be great to get it back. this problem started when GG 12.0 came out

[sacred minnow]

Yeah it's usually because you didn't put your recording device to Sonar in your Windows settings.

[worldly perch]

Yes i did

Still gonna check though

[worldly perch]

Thanks for responding

I found the issue, my noise gate was set to high, gone a week with an issue that had this easy of a fix

[sacred minnow]

Bruh haha. Gotta love that. I'm an IT tech, the calls we get sometimes.. People be waiting weeks to report something that we fix with one click and they're like <<Wow...>>

[worldly perch]

haha yes

i thought i tried everything but i didnt expect this

[sacred minnow]

Recently my biggest issue is people couldn't hear me on Discord, turns out my Mic gain was too high, the knob on my Quadcast was maxed out.

I'm not an audio expert at all, but I thought max gain was the way to go

[worldly perch]

this once again proves that the small things are the most important ones

and my noise gate just seemed to work but now it again doesn't, if it 's disabled it works fine though

[night tide]

hey guys. i've got a question how can i boost mij footsteps more then the preset warzone EQ in sonar after the update of warzone pacific the sound is crap and i could use some explaining about the different sort of bands in sonar so i can try to make my own EQ setting

[cyan dune]

When you’re in the audio setting in warzone you can “play audio test” you should press this then swing around some of those dials to see what they do 🙂

[night tide]

doesnt add up the normal eq sounds better i need the specific frequenties of the footsteps so i can make my own eq because in warzone the sound is not that good and thats an understatement

but its not the problem of the sonar software is just the game but maybe someone knows how to boost it in sonar itself

[cyan dune]

Yes okay the audio test in warzone then jump into sonar and move all the frequencies around to see which one has the best sound you want.

[night tide]

before i am in sonar the sound check is almost done so thats not an option unfortionatly

[severe apex]

Hey there people 😀

do I understand how the DAC should work with my system correctly:
I get (after installing sonar) multiple new sound devices (the three marked in SoundDevicesWindows.PNG).
On Windows I need to select "Steelseries Sonar - Gaming" and my chat programms use the Output "Steelseries Sonar - Chat".
With this setup I can use GG -> Sonar -> ChatMix Feature both from the software and the DAC Hardware.

In my case the software feature (SonarChatMix.PNG) is working just fine but I CANNOT use the DAC Hardware Dial.
If I want to use the dial I need to change my Windows Output to "Speakers (Game DAC)" (shown in SoundDevicesWindows_ChatMixDial.PNG).

Did I make a mistake in my understanding of the process or did I made a mistake while setting up the devices?

[severe apex]

alright, I could solve this issue:
I needed to change my Output device in the Sonar Settings from " Headset Earphone" to "Speakers "GameDAC Game".

The pictures show that I need to have two different devices for the gaming and chat.

[sudden dagger]

I have the weirdest issues with arctis 9x on win10. I do have a ticket open, and they've asked to have me uninstall GG and drivers for the headset, and start all over. The same issues have returned....

1. When I turn on my headset, and they actually work, I have to flip output to "headset" because that volume bar always reverts to 24%. I have to slide it back to 100, and then flip back to Sonar gaming output.

2. When I turn my headset on, and they don't work, Windows Audio service stops, and never successfully restarts. I'm forced to reboot my PC to get back to step 1.

3. After I get through step 1 and 2, and get to a point of playing a game, all is well. After a while (say around 2 hours), I will get this terrible crackling, as if a speaker is blown, but the crackling isn't associated with a loud noise. there is no pattern of when the crackling starts, how bad it is, etc. Steps 1 and/or 2 will fix the crackling, until a few hours where the crackling returns, repeat.

4. While in a voice chat using the xbox app/game bar, and using the party chat overlay my username blinks like I'm talking all the time, or there is some background noise. Even if I mute my mic, I'm still "talking", or the chat overlay makes it seem like that. The only way to get the overlay to stop blinking my name, is to turn the headset off.

With all of that being said, I have a pair of Beats wireless headphones. They give me no problems, at all

[sudden dagger]

I may have put this in the wrong place, sorry.

[rancid shale]

hello people,
someone have some sonar configuration of equalization to play Diablo 2 Ressurected?

I appreciate some suggestions!😀

[night tide]

a question for the warzone pacific gamer here. are you guys also having trouble hearing the footsteps correctly? iff anyone has a solution or is able to help me tweak the sonar software eq it would be great

[tight smelt]

warzone

[fair wagon]

bug - if you have the "Gaming" Sonar panel open, then alt tab (to test settings ingame ) it reverts back to the mixer tab - Intended?

[worldly perch]

Have that issue too - also don’t know if its intented (hope they remove/fix it though)

[high hound]

anyone find that the artic's cups for the ears are just to small for directional sound ?

i have the arctis pro wireless head set and they just seem too small to differ the directional sounds

[worldly perch]

Nope they work great for me

[fair wagon]

Anyone have EFT settings?

[civic heath]

Since I may be occupied in incoming days, I wanted to wish everyone on Sonar team Happy Holidays, great rest and a Happy New Year! Also for fellow testers, have a great time as well!

[high hound]

anyone got a warzone eq that might work,.. lemme know im about to buy a new set of headphones if i cant get this working right

[worldly perch]

Any plans for sonar + engine integration so u can manage sonar on the oled from the apex keyboards

[tame briar]

Does sonar introduce latency?

I really loved the multi-channel support on it

Windows detects it as a 8 channel device. Awesome

[verbal kettle]

Can anyone post a link to sonar please? The original link is no longer there. Since building a new pc I’ve no longer got sonar on SS GG. Many thanks

[night tide]

you need to go to settings in gg and then mark beta opt in and restart gg completly normaly it will be there after the restart

[night tide]

it does not give latency i am using it to

[night tide]

the devs off sonare know about the problem and are trying to make a new eq based on the problems they get send by us. so try to mark your problems here they are reading and following them

[verbal kettle]

Managed it finally thanks

[night tide]

No problem glad to help

[marble gust]

Anyone else been having issues with sonar lately, like it just randomly stops working completely and the sonar section never loads

[bold axle]

I often get stuck in the dashboard... loading forever. Not just today, since day 1

[neat heron]

Does anyone have good setting for footsteps etc. on games in Sonar??

[delicate burrow]

Please someone help me with this microphone sensitivity i feel like i turned everything on and it still detects key strokes

[neat heron]

@delicate burrow if you have Krisp noice reduction on Discord, use that.. I think you can't reduce all noices on just Sonar..

[delicate burrow]

@neat heron I just want to be able to play halo with open mic and xbox live party chat app. without people yelling at me

[neat heron]

Oh.. I haven't use Xbox live party chat.. You just need to test some settings with time on Sonar..

Thats why I'm asking for mor experienced user to give some tips for better hearing on games:P

[delicate burrow]

I literally cant play halo or call of duty without getting yelled at. I have a steelseries keyboard so frustrated right now

[neat heron]

Oh I see. I can try some settings to deny noices and Info you?

I can try to make you settings maybe, I can send you screenshot if I succes?

[delicate burrow]

Did you adjust microphone settings in sonar?

[neat heron]

I'm trying to make some different settings to Default

@delicate burrow Try to put your Microphone noice reduction "On" and Level: 1.00 and Noice Gate "On" and Threshold to -40dB?

That might help

[delicate burrow]

I have done it with everything turned up

straight insane

[neat heron]

You got "Impact Noise Reduction" on?

[delicate burrow]

everything possible

[neat heron]

But you got levels on way right?

[delicate burrow]

Discords suppression works fine.

[neat heron]

Yep it cancels noises fine, but I dunno 'bout xbox live chat..

[delicate burrow]

just any game

anything

[neat heron]

Before I took discord, I used Skype and steam. Then changes to Discord

[delicate burrow]

other than discord

[neat heron]

Which Headphones you got?

[delicate burrow]

idk arctis pros like the most expensive like wtf

[neat heron]

You got its own stabilizer?

I have these Arctis 5, and I'm glad that these are kinda cheap and better than other brands headsets:)

I got these like 4 years ago and still works fine

[delicate burrow]

yes they work great in discord

not playijng other games with open mic

[neat heron]

I have own settings on Engine and different on Sonar, and both have Noise Reduction so I think you should test

that too

But you need some extra time to test different settings and make it your personal so keep trying!

Happy christmass too for you @delicate burrow

And happy newyear!

[night tide]

I am trying out something in warzone for the moment it seems its working prety fine but still needs tweaking dont know enough to know to set the bandwiths in other frequenties. What i did notice is when you have the original eq for the headset itself those eq and sonar are working thogether only if the highs and lows need to be about the same in both and leav the virtual sound in sonar of iff the dtsx v2 surround in the orgiginal eq is on that worked for me but like i said still trying to tweak it more

[neat heron]

Okay thx

I'm trying to make my voice sound natural with my lil brother rn and soon I will try on Siege

But I think that testing different settings makes best quality for own ears?

[night tide]

Yeah. Everybody hears differently maybe my settings are good for my and bad for you. But testing and adjusting is key for the sound

[neat heron]

Thats why I'm testing settings w// my brother cuz you cannot hear your natural voice in your head

So just testing etc. is best option rn

[night tide]

Yes normaly voice clarity should help a bit

[neat heron]

Yup thx anyways!

[tall seal]

Hi if i use Steelseries Sonar - Gaming and test it, there are no location sounds like footsteps, weapons or chests or other sounds BEHIND me ( Warzone). in front of me or left and right side is ok but behind me the sounds are very quiet.

[graceful helm]

make sure in windows the devices are set as default as i had to do this as well

[tall seal]

its default ^^ if I quit sonar and use speaker game dac device it works fine

[graceful helm]

okay then that might be a bug to go 1 channel below with 🙂

[tall seal]

ok thx 🙂

[night tide]

The virtual sound of sonar and the dts x v2 of the oroginal eq work against eachother disable the virtual sound enable the dtsx v2 sound and the directional sound is better also in warzone the mono amount in the audio pit that on 20 instead of 100 helps to

[tame briar]

yes the spatial multichannel surround on Sonar is pretty strange sometimes

[graceful helm]

its not nessasarilly Sonar, Windows Gets Confused With Virtual Devices

[night tide]

Tried it testerday and with the dtsx v2 on and the sonar vs off i got the dirrectional sound like it should be

[graceful helm]

interesting, different for every device, ive had to turn off Windows Sonic and Turn On Sonar Virtual Surround for use along with the Arctis 1 Wireless

[night tide]

My headset completly shuts down windows sonic and only uses the dtsx v2 of my arctis 7 together with the sonar vs but i found when the vs from sonar is on the directional sound isnt working and with the sonar off and dtsx on it does work i think it overrides eachother one way or an other

[graceful helm]

yeah that would do it as Sonar Virtual Surround Converts it to a Stereo mode

i was helping 2 guys in voice chat that you may or may not have been able to help 😄 because of you having the Arctis 7

[night tide]

I thunk its bugged some way

[graceful helm]

Virtual Surround gives more audio on one side compared to the other, like say the front over the rear, Restart PC

[graceful helm]

Sonar Improved the Arctis 1 Wireless for me 😄 , Audio Sounds SO GOOD Right Now

[carmine sluice]

Anyone using it on 7+? Is sonar setting preferred on PC over standard game ?

[graceful helm]

unsure myself but it does seem to give a few extras you dont get in the engine 😄

[tall seal]

i fixed the problem, i enabled virtuial sound in sonar settings and it works fine

[leaden moon]

^ glad you guys helped each other out! You're are right that you should be turning off DTS and Windows Sonic (or any other virtualized surround sound software) for Sonar to perform optimally, and then enabling Sonar 'virtual surround' if you are after a surround experience. If you don't disable the other apps, then effectively you end up processing the audio to create a virtual surround sound multiple times (by each app) and the audio will be severely distorted.

[open wigeon]

same with EQ ^

tho not as much distorted since it's not creating virtual surround

[night tide]

how does sonar work with the dac because i am going to upgrade from a arctis 7 to a pro with game dac or the pro wireless

[old gull]

just set your audio outs accordingly.

[marble crescent]

i cant find sonar on my gg lol

[leaden moon]

Hey - it's an opt-in right now as Sonar is in 'early access'. Follow this link to show the quick steps to opt-in: https://support.steelseries.com/hc/en-us/articles/4411642415501-How-do-I-opt-in-to-Sonar-Alpha-

[marble crescent]

okie ty

[outer nova]

Hello people, I just got the Arctis 7P+, and the headset is working perfectly. But on sonar, the mic doesn't work. My friend hear me on discord, but Sonar say my microphone has no sound. If I mute my mic on sonar, people still hear me.

Is it like a common bug or something I'm the only one to have ?

[tulip ether]

you sure you selected the right mic in Sonar itself? sounds like you chose the wrong one

could also be the wrong mic in Discord

[outer nova]

no right mic in every place

both on discord and sonar

[outer nova]

ok I found out it works only when I'm in a game

[torn oyster]

If you are using the preset warzone in Sonar. What would yall recommend you have your in game audio mix set to? I usually have it on boost low? But should I change that to like studio reference or something?

Also what is the difference between "game" and "chat". How should I use those?

[leaden moon]

Hey - there is a current UI bug, that the mic input will only display on the 'mixer tab - mic' when there is an active application that is using the mic

so it's likely that the mic is working, but you just aren't seeing it register on the mic peak meter, unless you have an app open that is using the mic

[leaden moon]

this one is down to personal preference. The preset was created based on flat EQ in game settings. I personally use boost - high 🙂

[leaden moon]

Game is used for your in-game audio. Chat is used for your communication audio. The power of Sonar is that you can independently customize the audio on these streams so that you have the best in-game sound, to hear footsteps etc, and the best communication with your team mates so it's crystal clear comms.

[night tide]

is it worth using sonar with the game dac?

i just got the arctis wired pro plus game dac and i am enjoing the sound as it is but maybe you guys could help giving me some typs for even bettering the audio with sonar

[broken crow]

Hey everyone! Im trying out sonar and have everything set up. In my system i set my speaker output to Sonar - Gaming....the bars move up and down when I play a video on youtube but the only way to actually hear any sound is to set my system to the headset and not Sonar - Gaming virtual device

Any ideas? If I set it to the headset - No sound is run through the software

[serene orbit]

Make sure all of these options are set to the headset you want to use the Sonar virtual device though

[broken crow]

They are

I see the bar going up and down for the video

Output is set to my headset

Mic is set to the headset mic

[serene orbit]

Hmm that's weird. Have you tried restarting GG? If you have another audio output (like desktop/monitor speakers) you could try setting Sonar to those and see if they have any output. If not, this may be a problem for @leaden moon to help with

[broken crow]

Great idea as well and one i already tried. Set it to my speakers and no output still

[broken crow]

If i flip windows settings to CHAT i can hear the audio

SO odd

[leaden moon]

yeh this doesn't quite seem right.

it could be that the 'device' volume in windows was set really low before starting Sonar and hence the volume is being limited by the device

the way you need to fix this is:

1. in windows audio, select your device as the playback device:

then ensure that this volume is set to 100:

then reset back windows to be using the Sonar virtual audio devices, by clicking on the yellow banner in Sonar:

[ebon prairie]

Hi everyone! I just got the Arctis 7+ and have been loving them so far, but I have a few questions regarding the headset and SteelSeries app.

1. I see that in the GG app, there are essentially two equalizers, the "engine equalizer", and the "sonar equalizer". So do the sonar equalizer settings effectively "override" any presets/settings from the engine EQ? Or does the engine EQ influence audio even if sonar is enabled? Additionally, if I was to have sonar's EQ customized and then plugged the Arctis 7+ into a console such as the PS5, would the sonar EQ settings be applied to the audio output from the PS5? Or would it be the engine EQ settings that affects the PS5 audio output?

2. Does sonar have to be enabled for the physical chatmix dial on the headset to work? Or can you use the chatmix dial even if sonar is disabled?

Thanks and hope everyone is having a great day!

[undone reef]

Sonar is layered on the engine equaliser, you should reset it before using the sonar EQ. Sonar only works on the PC it's installed on (doesn't carry to PS5), while the engine EQ is saved to the device. Chatmix works with sonar disabled as it utilises 2 separate outputs rather than software. Hope you're also having a good day!

[ebon prairie]

Gotcha so the best course of action would be to edit the sonar EQ while the engine EQ is set to the default profile correct?

I'm trying to find the two separate outputs for chatmix with sonar off but other than the built in speakers in my laptop, I can't seem to find it in my sound settings. Any idea where I can find the second output?

[undone reef]

You've got to select the two outputs and set them to different applications in the windows mixer

[ebon prairie]

I can see that I have one output for the Arctis 7+ when sonar is off but can't seem to find the second one 😅

[undone reef]

You're looking in the wrong place

Navigate here, press app volume and device preferences. Then select your chat output to your chat application and so on

[ebon prairie]

So I checked with the SteelSeries support website and found this article: https://support.steelseries.com/hc/en-us/articles/4411641264013-How-Do-I-Setup-ChatMix-

Looks like you do indeed need sonar to be enabled for chatmix to work based on that article, since I don't have a SteelSeries Arctis 7+ Chat Audio or SteelSeries Arctis 7+ Game playback device in my Windows sound setting, it just appears as single deviced as "Arctis 7+" if any SteelSeries Staff could confirm this I'd greatly appreciate it but thank you @undone reef for the help!

[leaden moon]

@ebon prairie ^ yes I can confirm that on the A7+ the chatmix dial on the headset is integrated with the chatmix in Sonar. Sonar is needed to be enabled for this to function.

[worldly perch]

Wow... considering sonar is still in beta, it feels pretty risky to me to already making products that need sonar for their full functionality

[fast kelp]

Hi everyone,
I setup sonar just now and have a question about chatmix. I'm currently using it but in Steelseries GG it says that it's disabled and that I'm supposed to select same playback device for game and chat to use it. I just don't understand, I thought I were supposed to use different playback devices?

[rain aspen]

Hi, i'm just beginning to understand how Sonar works, and i was asking myself, for playing Warzone, should i stay in D 7.1, or should i try Sonar ? don't want to do weird things to my actual config, ty (Arctis Pro)

[wanton panther]

hi guys, i have a artics 5 rgb and i have problem on chatmix. Im using sonar also and when i use the button for chatmix, when i buff the chat side also discord sounds are gone off. But when i do that on the steelseries gg app there is no problem. any solutions?

[serene orbit]

If you have a SteelSeries headset that uses two outputs (Game and Chat) and you select both of those outputs to be used with Sonar, then chatmix control will be handled via the hardware dial on the headset. If you're using a headset with only one output, then you would set that output for both the virtual Game and Chat outputs via Sonar, then ChatMix control will be handled via the software slider in the Sonar menu

[leaden moon]

Sonar has virtualized 7.1 for headsets also. There is a toggle on the Gaming tab to turn it on/off.

Sonar configs will not make any changes etc to any Engine configurations that have been made. However if you have a config applied via Engine (and hence synced to the device) and then also have Sonar configs applied, then both of those effects will be applied.

It's best to set your engine configs to flat/default and then use the Sonar configs for PC gaming

[leaden moon]

Hi - oh interesting. I suspect this is due to what devices are set in sonar and discord. Are you able to share a screenshot of your sonar - mixer tab and also the audio settings in discord?

[worldly perch]

How is the 7.1 virtualised, I’m just wondering. Are there differences with other suround sound options?

[leaden moon]

Yeh each virtual surround sound software (Sonar, Dolby, DTS etc) will have some variability to how it is processed and outputted. There isn't a single unified approach that all offerings use.

[worldly perch]

Oh wow, I didn’t know there was so much to it, I am genuinely amazed.

But you said virtualised… are there also non virtualised options or not?

[leaden moon]

Yep it is 'virtualised' because a game could be outputting 7.1 audio, but it ultimately is outputted to only 2 speakers in your headset (left and right)

[worldly perch]

Oh yeah, that makes sence

[leaden moon]

So the software does some v smart things to create a virtualized surround sound experience even though outputting through 2 speakers

[worldly perch]

Sounds cool

[leaden moon]

If you had a 7.1 speaker setup, then you can get 'native' surround

[worldly perch]

Yeah wel… I don’t

I have arctis 3 and the sonar works perfect with it for me

[leaden moon]

Think of the game sending 8 streams of audio....then we have to work out how to process those 8 streams and send to the actual amount of speakers

But you can also set the game to send stereo audio

Which many gamers use

So it's just left and right

[worldly perch]

So you need to have a program that sets the volume for each side of the ear-cups to make it sound like its around u

I’m really into programming so thats why I’m thinking it out loud

Haha

[leaden moon]

Yep. It's a lot of different things that go into creating a virtualized surround experience....and then personalization effects that are applied on top of that etc

[wanton panther]

here it is

[leaden moon]

Thanks! Ok I think I see an issue. In Sonar, you should change your sonar-chat output device to be the arctis 5 chat endpoint.

The Sonar - game looks correct

I 'think' the microphone is correct (sorry I don't have an arctis 5 with me to test right now). To confirm, are there any other options in the Sonar microphone drop down?

[wanton panther]

well i have no problem with my mic but here is my settings, eq is off. It works well.

[serene orbit]

The Arcits 5 mic shows up as "Arctis 5 Chat" in Windows so yes, he has the correct configuration in Sonar

[wanton panther]

And btw now i selected arctis 5 chat in steelseries gg for chat but rn i cant hear sounds on discord.

[leaden moon]

The discord setup looked correct...Looks like it's at half volume though.

You should exclusively be controlling chatmix via the dial attached to the headset now

[worldly perch]

Its at a 100% discord allows from 0 to 200 %

In ouput

[jaunty epoch]

guys do you know how to volume up sound in the game?

[leaden moon]

Check that out Tetto. That may help if volume is low.

[jaunty epoch]

thanks

[delicate burrow]

hey why can't i hear my microphone in ss sonar even though it is set up well (my microphone is spc sm900)

[radiant junco]

Can you tell me what is my best option for surround sound ingame? like hearing footsteps precisely where they are.

Right now trying flat/default engine settings with DTS off, in Sonar FPS footsteps and surround on

Is this the correct way?

[worldly perch]

Its just preference i like the sonar surround more than the windows sonic one that i was told to use with my arctis 3

[worldly perch]

Yes u should only use 1 surround at a time

[radiant junco]

I have an arctis 7, so also the DTS available

[delicate burrow]

?

[quiet juniper]

Is there alot of delay on Sonar?

I have all of my audio running through voicemeeter already so i dont know if there is gonna be too much delay

[leaden moon]

Correct. Only applying one surround sound processing is needed. In which case if you turn off DTS and then try Sonar (with the surround sound toggle activated) you should be great. You can then apply customization on top of it via game presets or personal tweaks to the parametric EQ.

[leaden moon]

Hey - it looks setup correctly. The mic won't show up on the peak meter unless you are using an app that registers mic input. An easy way to check is just bringing up the windows sound settings.

[leaden moon]

No, we have highly optimized Sonar to bring best is class processing at leading low latency needed for gaming.

However...I wouldn't run your audio through both voice meter and Sonar as you are in effect doubling the audio processing and they will start to conflict etc.

What's your use case with voicemeter? It could be fully supported in Sonar?

[quiet juniper]

I run all of my sounds through voicemeeter, and as i am a content creator it is crucial that i can exclude different tracks out of my videos/streams. For example i have it setup in a way so i can easily switch between audio outputs and have different tracks for music, communication, desktop and browser. I think if sonar had more tracks with more customisation in them i would 100% switch to sonar completely

[leaden moon]

Cool. Thanks for the feedback! I hear ya.

[inner cloud]

Hello, new here..
Just jumped from having used arctic 7 wireless, first edition and the 2019 edition or w/e its called so i guess 2.0 of it -- to 7+.
I feel like the sound picture from the 7+ is not on par with what i was used to with the old headset, ill share a picture of the fairly standard setup i was used to with the old pair.
Anyway to get a similar profile to that, or am i f'd? :)

[quiet juniper]

Keybinds to toggle a certain EQ preset would be really nice too

[inner cloud]

oh ye and before the arctis 7's i rocked the Steelseries H Wireless Headset, so solid steelseries user since 2014 :)

[leaden moon]

Hi - so it looks like you effectively have 'out-of-the-box' settings with surround on and a small increase on the 64Hz EQ band. To recreate you could do the same in Sonar, by toggling on 'Virtual Surround' in the 'Gaming' tab, and then the small 0.4 increase on the 64Hz freq in the parametric eq.

[old gull]

Honestly great that you guys went with a parametric with sweepable Q over a standard 12 band GEQ.

[dusty minnow]

Hi guys just bought a 7+ and trying to configure around this whole new Sonar thing etc as i never had to do it with my old steelseries headset. I'm trying to sort out the mic settings and stuff but have 0 clue on where to start if anyone has tips/settings that are good?

one main problem is that it picks up everything (tried changing different settings etc still won't help), Don't want to have to change the pickup with every application i use

or is this something you only have to change with discord?

[broken crow]

Hey guys. I’m still kind of confused with sonar and the original engine. So I use both? Do I turn on 7.1 dts in engine and virtual on sonar? Sonar sounds really wide and spacey when you use the virtual. I’m running a new pair of Arctis pro wireless. Also…. When I turn surround on via the software it doesn’t show on the wireless dac…. It only displays if I double press the small back button. I’m just super confused. I want to set up my new $500 headset for the best audio experience when playing fps and iRacing 🙂

[open wigeon]

don't use both virtual surround, it will make distortion

use either virtual sound from sonar or one from engine

the wireless dac should update instantly after you change something in GG app (when you are not in menu/settings of dac itself)

[dusty minnow]

is anyone able to send their FPS games EQ settings?

all videos are outdated

[open wigeon]

depends on the game