LinusTechTips on YouTube has some great build guides that cover both AMD and Intel builds
#💻-building-a-pc
static pecan
noble oak
This good cpu?
rough oak
yes it has a 6 cores and 12 threads
valid scarab
yes it has 6 cores and 12 threads
raw marsh
Depends on use case, depends on price
noble oak
Depends on use case, depends on price
8 Pounds
raw marsh
Yeah right
noble oak
No joke
hidden moss
That...may explain it
hidden moss
Hmm, A bigger atx case...
noble oak
is it possible to get a good build of a 3060 Ti, ryzen 5 5600x 16gb ram for 1500usd?
hidden moss
Is it all compatible?
noble oak
I have not bought anything yet.
hidden moss
Wishlist?
noble oak
building in the future like in a few months
hidden moss
Ooh
raw marsh
There's no guarantee anything will have improved in a few months
noble oak
yes I know
forget about the hard to get, would it be possible
for 1500usd
without having to buy crappy parts and stuff if u get it
raw marsh
Add up the msrp prices and find out
raw marsh
Yeah?
noble oak
would you say it is possible? I don't really know what parts to use
crimson scroll
you can get a decent build for 1500, yes
noble oak
you can get a decent build for 1500, yes
ok nice thanks for the answer
rough oak
decent
mate you can get something really good
like for 1.5k thats some gaming at like 4k 120fps
noble oak
oo nice
steady vector
is the i5 4590 good for gaming
noble oak
I'm no expert but I'd say it's decent depending on what games you play
steady vector
on warzone what fps would i see
noble oak
depends highly on your graphics card
steady vector
all low
noble oak
no, the gpu
steady vector
rx 550
steady vector
my res is 1600x900
raw marsh
Similar enough
raw marsh
Look it up, we won't have a certain answer
noble oak
I wouldn't think you'd get more than 60fps
steady vector
ok
crimson scroll
like for 1.5k thats some gaming at like 4k 120fps
not right now, you can't
noble oak
not right now, you can't
I understand that, just hoping for it to get better in a couple of months
crimson scroll
even with normal msrp prices
you're gonna do 4k120fps on what
minesweeper?
csgo, esports titles, sure
or you lower visual settings, at which point you're severely compromising the whole point of 4k
and dlss for every game is a long ways away
noble oak
yes yes yes yes yes I know
raw marsh
He was responding to the other guy
noble oak
He was responding to the other guy
The guy he responed to was talking to me
raw marsh
Yeah?
noble oak
yeah
Didn't know if he wanted it to reach me or him since i'm the one planing to build a system
safe light
is this gpu good?
Gigabyte Radeon RX 5500 XT Gaming Graphics Card | 4 GB GDDR6 – PCI-Express 4.0
safe light
and for what price
450
crimson scroll
for 450 it's not an amazing price
about what i'd expect in this market
good for 1080p60, wouldn't look to push too high of a framerate or res
static pecan
It would probably be able to handle 1080p medium details at around 60fps, but for some games you might have to fudge with the settings a bit to boost the fps
Also yeah $450 for a 5500XT is a terrible price. That's only $20 less than what I paid for my 5700XT
hidden moss
A lot of prices seem to be high right now
raw marsh
As you would expect during a global silicon shortage
hidden moss
Very sad 😦
shut crest
hey guys my friend is wanting to get a pc for $700 but he wants it to be a prebuilt. If u guys can find anything well worth the price, @ me. Thx
past aspen
Yo is the rtx 50 ti good
crimson scroll
that's not a thing
crimson scroll
that's a typo
past aspen
that's a typo
Nah bro Best Buy don’t lie
lavish dagger
boreal notch
50 ti?
raw marsh
Typo
tall cove
3050
raw marsh
Scammer...
crimson scroll
don't do that @long timber
tough pollen
So I’m gonna be buying a pc from someone, I can list the specs and price they want. If someone can give their opinion if it’s a good price or not I would appreciate it.
raw marsh
Feel free
raw marsh
Currency?
tough pollen
I know the GPU is a little out dated but everything else seems pretty good
raw marsh
1080 is still fine
Good ram, good psu, good motherboard, good SSD, good case etc
I can't see anything wrong with it, especially for the price
tough pollen
Awesome, thank you for your input. I think I’ll buy it then lol
raw marsh
Hope it works out for you
tough pollen
Me too lol thank you
steady vector
hello
raw marsh
Hey
raw marsh
which is better
10700k
raw marsh
I just said, 10700k out of those two. Although ig it also depends on the price
golden cedar
I just said, 10700k out of those two. Although ig it also depends on the price
it s the same price
raw marsh
Again, 10700k
long grove
Any m.2 nvme ssd under 70$ recommendations? Looking to pick one up on sale during prime day
crimson scroll
you mean 1tb?
rough oak
the 7 3800x is way better
crimson scroll
uh, no
crimson scroll
frequency isn't everything
rough oak
but the ryzen can overclock so its pretty much better
crimson scroll
they can both overclock
please don't spread misinformation
the 10700k does better in most games
rough oak
please don't spread misinformation
i didnt see the k my bad
crimson scroll
and trades blows or comes out ahead against the 3700x
which is basically the 3800x
rough oak
but the ryzen has one advantage
you dont have to buy a new motherboard to get like the latest cpu
crimson scroll
most am4 motherboards support 2 or 3 generations of ryzen
just like how most intel motherboards support 2 generations
so
now, it's certainly easier to find an am4 motherboard with adequate vrms
pick any random board and even if the rest of the features suck it'll probably be able to handle the 3800x stock
rough oak
some am4 motherboards that are 3rd gen support bios updates for 5thgen
rough oak
i honestly just say 5th gen and 4th gen
rough oak
it was an example
crimson scroll
in terms of the actual product numbers it's 1xxx, 2xxx, 3xxx, 5xxx
long grove
Do i need a heatsink for the crucial p5? nvme ssd
I have a msi b450 tomahawk max which doesnt have on included
crimson scroll
it does run a bit hot
looks like the m.2 slot is right above the gpu
do you have airflow across there and are you running intensive file transfers
long grove
do you have airflow across there and are you running intensive file transfers
Yes i have airflow there and no not really
crimson scroll
then it's fine
long grove
just worried it might overheat
crimson scroll
it'll throttle itself anyways
long grove
ok I do have a rad in the front of the case but I do have 1 top fan and a rear fan
so yeah I shouldnt have to worry about it
crimson scroll
you can always just pop open hwinfo, run a power draw test, watch the temps'
tight anvil
idle bridge
Kinda funny how basically every AM4 motherboard has either HDMI slot or DP, but the majority of current CPUS compatible with them don't have an IGPU / don't support video output.
raw marsh
Kinda funny how basically every AM4 motherboard has either HDMI slot or DP, but ...
5700g and 5800g are coming, so some will be happy it's a thing
crimson scroll
10900k is fine
verbal mortar
I have 10850k
which comes very very close to the 10900k in pretty much everything
and I can tell you its powerfull. but also an oven
I have it overclocked quite hard and it gets really hot
so just make sure you have good cooling
@tight anvil
idle bridge
5700g and 5800g are coming, so some will be happy it's a thing
True, but for most of it's lifespan the only CPU's we've had so far was the 4000 series which was OEM only, so yeah
cinder summit
Can i get someone here to possibly rate my rig? Lol i just built it and i know its perfectly good but im just curious how it stacks up to some other builds ive seen
crimson scroll
sure
open elk
Can i get someone here to possibly rate my rig? Lol i just built it and i know i...
specs and pics pls
crimson scroll
pics in #archive-battlestations honestly
open elk
^^
verbal mortar
am curious too
cinder summit
Cpu: Ryzen 9 3900x 3.8 12-core
Motherboard: Asus Prime x570-p
Ram: G.skill Ripjaw V 3400 2x16gb
Psu: 750 80+ Gold Corsair
Gpu: Aorus 12g 3060
raw marsh
Pretty powerful, if not slightly unbalanced
cinder summit
My case is an oldd tower i just upgraded from and have a new one backordered
raw marsh
Can't give much of a rating without seeing it
verbal mortar
sounds good. im guessing this build doesnt have gaming as first priority in mind?
dusk path
ryzen 5600g and gtx 1660 super?
raw marsh
Why the 5600g
raw marsh
So what's your question
raw marsh
It's fine considering the current state of the GPU market
dusk path
oh ok ty
cerulean elk
Need a new cpu (has to be intel) any recommendations?
raw marsh
11400f
cerulean elk
Ye I was looking at one of those
south oracle
im working on getting my first pc and i want to try to keep my mouse and keyboard on the more affordable side, are the apex 3 keyboard and rival 3 mouse good or should i look for something with more to it?
im willing to pay more for higher quality if its needed but as of right now id like to keep them as inexpensive as i can
raw marsh
They're fine if you don't mind the membrane switches
verbal mortar
im willing to pay more for higher quality if its needed but as of right now id l...
I'd definitly look into the direction of a mechanical keyboard
even if its very budget
the mouse is totally fine but for a keyboard id look elsewhere
raw marsh
Budget?
mossy spear
under 1k
or 1.2k
idk if i can find a cheap pre built
in my country shiping is like 700 euros
noble oak
in my country shiping is like 700 euros
are you including shipping in your budget?
noble oak
or 1.2k
I'm no proffesional but I've found a decent build for about 1.3k, not sure if you can preorder a systme like this tho
noble oak
im working on getting my first pc and i want to try to keep my mouse and keyboar...
Hi Mango. I think that the mouse would be great but if I were you I'd look into some mechanical keyboard. The apex 3 goes for about 70$ if I'm not mistaking. You can find a lot of mechanical keyboards for that price or even for a bit lower price. Maybe not the best option but for an example the razer blackwidow V3 tkl goes for about the same price.
south oracle
@verbal mortar @noble oak @raw marsh awesome thanks for the help!
verbal mortar
welcome
verbal mortar
if you figured out what you're gonna buy im down to review it a bit, see if you're missing something or an interesting alternative
craggy sparrow
No, shush
hidden moss
Oh neat
proud iron
hey does anyonr know any good parts to buld a good pc with like a 2.5k budget
proud iron
im.not sure yet this will be my first time if all works out lol
raw marsh
You're also better off buying a prebuilt to get the GPU closer to MSRP
proud iron
k
do you have any recommendations for a good prebuilt or am i better off to make one with a big budget
raw marsh
Redux PC have a competitive build fee
raw marsh
3080, 5800x fits within your budget
proud iron
so if you bought with redux it would cost extra
I see a good build
but im confused about the fee
raw marsh
Why
raw marsh
That's what it costs for them to build it for you
lament pawn
Now i know why some 5800x are running hot, some of them have a deep sleep state CCD
They were Ryzen 9s that were not up for quality standards
sturdy comet
3080, 5800x fits within your budget
for 2.5k, a 5900x + 3080 fits...
rapid pivot
my friend just said you need ultrawide to support 4k and you need to have 240hz to support 8k, and he said seagate makes the best ssds lol
and no this is not true, do not think it is
severe gazelle
No, just no
raw marsh
my friend just said you need ultrawide to support 4k and you need to have 240hz ...
Why spew random information which you know to be wrong?
lament pawn
Ultrawide for 4K 
rapid pivot
Why spew random information which you know to be wrong?
i didnt find any other channel to talk about it in so i just said it here, and yes i know it isnt true, might as well just edit it and say so
raw marsh
More bots, ignore this
raw marsh
More bots, ignore this
quartz lion
I want to build a pc but what is good for pc building (i don't know much about pc's)
raw marsh
What do you mean by that
lean gyro
my friend just said you need ultrawide to support 4k and you need to have 240hz ...
LMFAO
who is ur friend loll
@raw marsh i watched mkbhd's 8k video, and damn it was good
3090 is 8k right
raw marsh
3090 supports 8K, yeah
lean gyro
ya
steady vector
what would be a good pair for the 10th gen i3
raw marsh
Whatever you can get
open elk
1660
manic knoll
I have a gaming laptop that's running out of space, and I'm looking into getting an external hard drive are they any good for games? And if so what would you recommend
static pecan
Why not just by a bigger internal drive for the laptop?
lean gyro
Why not just by a bigger internal drive for the laptop?
depends on the laptop, some laptops dont have interchangeable hard drives
manic knoll
I could but would break the warranty so I just need a temporary fix for about a year because I have "can't waste things" drilled into my head
lean gyro
I could but would break the warranty so I just need a temporary fix for about a ...
ohohk
lolll
hard drives are good for games, but they make a mess as well, with all the wires
but i dont have any recommendations
verbal mortar
depends I guess
obviously you could get away with an exterl 3.5 inch HDD
but its heavy and bulky
and kinda slow
@manic knoll try and find out what the fastest port is on your laptop, (if you have thunderbolt. its porbably that) and buy an external SSD for that port
I guess that would give you the fastest performence
static pecan
@manic knoll here's a good explainer on the differences between external drivers and whatnot https://youtu.be/-Q1t9tIAY9Y
manic knoll
<@!573244876037292057> try and find out what the fastest port is on your laptop,...
Yeah my laptop has a thunderbolt port thanks
I appreciate all the help
Also would I be able to transfer whatever games I downloaded on the external drive to my laptop once it's upgraded or would I have to re-download everything from the external drive?
crimson scroll
You can move files between drives
That's all a game is
Keep in mind you may also have to move save files for those games that don't use cloud saves
verbal mortar
The only time I've had issues with moving files from location was during development of Android Aplications
other than that you should be ok
crimson scroll
Moving certain things off your main install drive can be a pain as well
Autodesk and Adobe master suite will complain if you try to install elsewhere
manic knoll
Ok thank you
raw marsh
Still not quite #archive-user-support dude
kindred bear
Still not quite <#737323443908771931> dude
sorry
raw marsh
It's fine
pulsar fossil
Say I wanted to find a new case. Currently using a NZXT one.. Which should I look at?
ATX mobo, RTX 2080 Ti, i9-9900k
Air cooler and no plans for watercooling
(beyond possibly AIO but seems unlikely)
raw marsh
Meshify C would be my recommendation
raw marsh
Air flow, design and instal quality of life appreciated
Has that - looks nice, easy to build in, excellent airflow
pulsar fossil
I like the idea of replacement fronts for color scheme
Do you know what difference TG makes?
Meshify C vs Meshify C TG
raw marsh
Tempered glass, purely aesthetics
crimson scroll
meshify 2 is the newer version
raw marsh
Yeah either is fine, the main difference is a USB-c port on the front IO iirc
crimson scroll
nicer tooling and qol on the newer one as well
also more size options
but it is a significant amount more money
pulsar fossil
I'm okay with that if it's worth the extra money
I was looking at the Corsair iCUE 7000X RGB TG - getting a little tempted
But then I saw the price
And the fact it won't be in stock until the 26th of august 😆
crimson scroll
there's also the corsair 5000d airflow if you like the corsair aesthetic
pulsar fossil
380 usd is a bit much for a case
crimson scroll
and the lian li 215 is also an option
pulsar fossil
5000D wont be in stock for a while
Lian Li however.. Hello darling
It's crazy how the only sure fire way to get a 3080 Ti is by buying a bundle with a CPU and mobo
crimson scroll
"surefire"
crimson scroll
who is they
pulsar fossil
Proshop in Denmark
pulsar fossil
There's a bundle with a MSI 3080Ti SUPRIM X, MPG X570 Pro Carbon and a R9 5950X
For just 3760 usd
raw marsh
Look at the manual, google it
Not trying to be unhelpful but there aren't likely to be many people in here who have the board with experience to draw from
opaque spire
What would be a good motherboard that will work with an Intel core i5 6400 out of the box?
raw marsh
What would be a good motherboard that will work with an Intel core i5 6400 out o...
Anything with an LGA1151 socket would work
opaque spire
Anything with an LGA1151 socket would work
Any that you would personally recommend?
raw marsh
I've never looked into buying boards with that socket so unfortunately not
If it's from a reputable brand and you've read a couple reviews I'm sure it will be fine
opaque spire
Also, any advice on what I should upgrade next?
These are my specs
raw marsh
Also, any advice on what I should upgrade next?
These are my specs
Perhaps begin with the GPU if you can
grand mica
Perhaps begin with the GPU if you can
100%
only problem is bottlenecks
he could get like a 10400f and 2060 or something
raw marsh
For that they'd also need a new motherboard, maybe ram and a PSU. My suggestion was for what looked to me like the weaker component.
opaque spire
Perhaps begin with the GPU if you can
I mean I was thinking the motherboard as it is out of an Acer Predator prebuilt
raw marsh
Feel free if you think you'll benefit more from that
grand mica
i think it would be better to just go for a new build honestly
opaque spire
i think it would be better to just go for a new build honestly
I would, but I don’t have the money for that
I only paid $170 for the whole system that I have
static pecan
Honestly instead of making incremental upgrades to a severely under powered and out of date system I would recommend saving up to either build your own system or get a solid value pre-built if you aren't looking for something super top of the line
opaque spire
Honestly instead of making incremental upgrades to a severely under powered and ...
Not a bad idea, but I could actually upgrade to a 9th gen Intel processor with my current socket type and everything
Also money is a huge thing for me
raw marsh
Top end maybe, mid-range maybe not
crimson scroll
that's very general and wrong
queen violet
Intel and Amd both have there benefits
If your an overclocker then intel 100%, same for somebody who can afford high-end ram
But amd is more suitable for people scared of bios
queen violet
Not really
A lot of people are overclockers
Or have bought a pre-built which already are
There are other reasons for either side too
queen violet
No
raw marsh
Or have bought a pre-built which already are
Wdym then
queen violet
Basically, intel performs better when overclocked usually anyway, but due to the way the chips have been designed, they can handle much much high ram clock speeds, which means while amd is limited to 3800mhz pretty much. Intel can hit 4000 through to 5600 on some cases. This can really swing intel ahead
So an overclocked intel system will nearly always beat an amd system
raw marsh
That is completely fictitious
queen violet
Not at all
crimson scroll
that's not true lmao
it's true that intel has higher overclocking headroom
it's not true that that will push it to better performance levels than the competing amd chip
queen violet
Well…. If you run say a 5600x and 11600k at say 4.4ghz with 3200mhz xmp ram
The 5600x will nearly always beat the 11600k
But if you run the 11600k oc’d to 5.0 or even 5.1ghz with 4400mhz ram ur intel chip is suddenly much better
queen violet
Tell me how I’m wrong….
crimson scroll
it depends on the workload you're doing
and the intel chip is still not "suddenly better" than the amd chip
queen violet
Ok in this case I’m referencing gaming, apologies I didn’t mention that
queen violet
Hmm lemme find some numbers
Yes it does depend on the game
But overclocking is a must with intel whereas amd not so much is my point
crimson scroll
that's moving the goalposts
also that video uses 3200cl14
i know because i reference gn all the time
queen violet
What’s wrong with 3200 cl14?
crimson scroll
also that's the 10600k
there's nothing wrong with 3200cl14
but you're talking about higher ram speeds
if you want to do the 10600k vs 5600x super tune, the video conclusion is that intel gets closer
queen violet
Indeed
crimson scroll
but still doesn't win
queen violet
The problem is that to make it a fair test in these videos they have to use the same ram
crimson scroll
no, they don't
in the super tune, they push both as high as they can go in a set amount of time
queen violet
Huh mb
crimson scroll
in the normal comparisons, yes
queen violet
So what ram speed was the intel using?
crimson scroll
in the super tune, 4000cl15
i take that back about the 3200cl14 that's for every other video
but point still stands
queen violet
Right oh ye this was a while ago so all the last gen ddr4 lots hadn’t been released at affordable levels
crimson scroll
i can push my 5600x to 3800cl16 and i'm sure if i had gn expertise i could get to 4000cl16
crimson scroll
depends on your chip
queen violet
I’ve only seen 1 person have 4000:2000 stable
Whereas I’ve seen multiple people have 5000+ stable on intel
queen violet
Intel also has the added benefit of lower memory latency’s anyway
crimson scroll
the intel chips are not "suddenly much better" than the amd chips
like i said, they win out in some, they lose out in some
you also cherry picked the screenshot of rdr2 which is one of the last games intel has the lead in
queen violet
My point is the tide changes after overclocking, going from amd smacks intel too intel actually competes with and beats amd
crimson scroll
sure
queen violet
Yes I know but I couldn’t find the 11600k video in a reasonable time frame
crimson scroll
queen violet
Dang that’s small gimme a sec
queen violet
Can u please reply to it, I can’t read the photo on mobile
crimson scroll
Basically, intel performs better when overclocked usually anyway, but due to the...
.
queen violet
Thanks
crimson scroll
So an overclocked intel system will nearly always beat an amd system
.
queen violet
Basically, intel performs better when overclocked usually anyway, but due to the...
This is true
The bit below isn’t fullly yes
crimson scroll
i haven't seen any video where intel is ahead though
like i said, they win out slightly in some games and lose out in others
queen violet
like i said, they win out slightly in some games and lose out in others
That’s fair
GN haven’t made a super tune video with 11th gen yet rip
crimson scroll
it's probably gonna end up similar to the 10600k one but with slightly less scaling
if they ever do one
10th gen has better memory scaling than 11th gen
queen violet
I think so yes
Not sure but I think people have found 11th gen hits higher memory clocks although the scaling has decreased a tad
So I’d expect the final memory setup for the intel build to be closer to 4600mhz cl18-19
Then again seeing as they only managed 4000mhz in the 10 series video due to I’m guessing time it might be lower than expected
crimson scroll
once they get off 14+++++++nm it should be better
queen violet
Yes 😂😂
crimson scroll
that really screwed them over on the 11900k
queen violet
I wonder what 5nm amd is going to be like
Probably very fast
And hopefully a little cooler than this gen amd
lusty hinge
is building a pc hard?
queen violet
No, but definitely watch some build videos
And if your case or motherboard comes with a build manual use it
If you have any problems ask here or at the buildapc discord
raw marsh
is the server code "buildapc"
He might mean any server centred around building PCs
queen violet
Can’t send links here but I’ll dm u it
lusty hinge
setting the pc up once its done doesnt seem too hard
lusty hinge
He might mean any server centred around building PCs
ah
queen violet
He might mean any server centred around building PCs
Nah the buildapc discord with about 40 thousand people
raw marsh
Or that then
queen violet
Yep quite a lot lol
lusty hinge
nah its 25 off 78 actually
queen violet
Jeez the new epyc CPU’s are good
opaque spire
Yes or no on these current specs for $190 in the current market
verbal mortar
you could ask more
that cpu is still perfectly fine and you have 24gb of ram, and lots of storage
id ask 300 for that
@opaque spire
opaque spire
Nah, I just got it
verbal mortar
well if its for gaming, its not powerfull thats for sure
Ive had that cpu myself
and it even bottlenecked my gtx 1060
opaque spire
It runs that games that I need it to
verbal mortar
what do you play?
opaque spire
I switch it up a bit
sometimes it's Forza Horizon 4, and other times it's Need for Speed
uneven shuttle
ok
tired herald
is a 1080 ti worth buying?
raw marsh
Depends on the price, but it's still a capable card
open elk
at 1080p
steady vector
yea it good
queen violet
It’s good for 1080p, but will probably cost you 600-700
Tbf I saw a couple 1080ti’s for about 450 so they are getting cheaper
sturdy comet
they even went for 250-300
mild lintel
Best grafics card for fortnite?
hollow pier
tepid frost
What would you say the best value graphics card for 1440p gaming would be rn
tepid frost
so i would like Intel and i wanna play games like fortnite (maybe), minecraft, destiny 2, Ark, Rainbow Six siege, The Crew 2, Astroneer. And around 200 fps as i would like a 144hz 1440p monitor so yeah
prime thicket
they meant amd gpu
raw marsh
3070 is a bigger number
tepid frost
is it better though
raw marsh
Yes
raw marsh
No
tepid frost
ok thanks
if i want to get a PC at christmas should i wait for 4000 series or stick with 3000 series
raw marsh
4000 series is not going to be available for Christmas
tepid frost
ok👍
severe gazelle
I will get something like rtx 3060 ti or 3070 or rx 6700 when rtx 4000 and rx 7000 server gets released
queen violet
also whats better a 3060 ti or a 3070
3070 is better
Although I would recommend a 165hz or 180hz monitor if you choose to use one
tepid frost
ok i was thinking of the samsung oddesy g5
queen violet
5600x and a 3070 with the new LG-27GP850 is basically the best setup for 1440p
tepid frost
how much is the monitor
tepid frost
sheeesh
queen violet
Arguably anyway
raw marsh
5600x and a 3070 with the new LG-27GP850 is basically the best setup for 1440p
It's pretty much exactly what I'm running lol
queen violet
Yep same
I’m gunna get the GP to use as my main
Cause my current VA panel has too much black blurring
tepid frost
i think i might get a cheap monitor and save for that one
queen violet
Sounds good
tepid frost
thanks
queen violet
Btw anybody know if it’s gunna look wierd having a flat 27” main and curved 27” secondary?
raw marsh
It's not terrible, and some might find it perfectly ok, but I would prefer not to
queen violet
It’s not very tightly curved so it hopefully won’t look to bad
raw marsh
Horizontal?
queen violet
Yep probably
raw marsh
Give it a go, If you don't like it you don't have to use it right
queen violet
Atleast it’s VA tho so it’ll look good for anything that isn’t games
raw marsh
Vertical mount looks a little less jarring, at least in my opinion
queen violet
Vertical curved just looks abit wierd to me ngl
But I dunno how my opinion will change when it’s actually Infront of me
Just need the GP and APW to perfect my setup now
tepid frost
whats the differnce between that monitor you suggested and this onehttps://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-monitors/asus-tuf-vg27aq1a-quad-hd-27-ips-lcd-gaming-monitor-black-10220251-pdt.html
queen violet
I mean check rtings for a good explaination, but the new LG monitor has just about the best response times available
Btw their is a cheaper model which only does 165hz I think
tepid frost
I mean check rtings for a good explaination, but the new LG monitor has just abo...
this one is 1ms response time tho
raw marsh
*1ms advertised response time
tepid frost
true
queen violet
1ms means nothing mate
tepid frost
would you say the monitor is worth it though
queen violet
The LG does about 4ms and has basically 0 ghosting
This is a more budget version of the 850, check it out and see if it suits you more
Also read reviews of both from rtings if you want
tepid frost
ok thanks
lilac coral
Soes anyone know of a good 1440p monitor 144hz for 300 dollars or less? I saw an acer predator one, but I was sure if that would be a good option
Does*
halcyon musk
Best steel series mouse under 100$
halcyon musk
Ty
queen violet
Soes anyone know of a good 1440p monitor 144hz for 300 dollars or less? I saw an...
Viewsonic: VX2758-2KP-MHD, VX2705-2KP-MHD, VX2768-2KP-MHD, XG2705-2K
Gigabyte: G27Q, M27Q
Pixio: PX277 Prime, PX7 Prime
LG: 27GP83A, 27GP850
Dell: Dell S2721DGF(A)
MSI: MSI MAG274QRF-QD, MAG274QRF
Acer: VG270UP, VG271UP, VG272U (V, P), XV272UP
Asus VG27AQ, Lenovo Legion Y27q-20
Anything on this list is good
So whatever fits ur budget and aesthetic basically
lilac coral
@queen violet thanks man!
static pecan
I have the G27Q and it's great!
devout wolf
m27q has very good color accuracy out of the box
deft dock
have the Lenovo non Legion version G27q-20, i assume it's the same panel.
noble oak
Hey guys I have a ps5 rn and I want a good gaming monitor
queen violet
Well it’s 4K or 1080p
Unfortunately ps5 doesn’t support 1440
AOC: 24G2, 24G2U/BK
Acer: VG240Y Pbiip, VG240YS, VG242YP, XV240Y (P, V, S)
Asus: VP249QGR, VG249Q1R, VG249Q
Pixio: PX248, PX248 Prime S
MSI: G241, G242, G242P
Viewsonic: XG2405
LG: LG 24GN600-B.AUS, LG 24GN650-B
iiyama: GB2470HSU-B1
Acer (Regional): XF243Y, RX241Y
Unless u really want that visual quality go for 1080p
tepid frost
does anyone have the corsair lt100 light towers cos i want to know if theyre worth it
queen violet
Hmmm, mods take him away!
verbal mortar
I made it so that certain cpu cores try to hit 5.2Ghz and they do, but they cant seem to hold it
any advice?
Could this have to do anything with me undervolting the cpu?
or is this just 100% throttling
queen violet
What are your temperatures? @verbal mortar
toxic raftBOT
Fireball_2019#3449 has been warned
queen violet
Oops
Did you manually set the clock or are you using intel’s boost algorithm?
And what cpu is this?
Sorry for all the questions
Cause the algorithm is designed to boost to 5.2ghz for a couple seconds then drop back to 4.8 ish depending on the cpu
Manually setting to 5.2ghz would be much better
If your cpu cooler can handle it
verbal mortar
I9-10850k, I have it set so that the algorithm is the maximum duration, and it will only stop when it hits a certain wattage, but I set that treshhold to the maximum (4096watt) so its basically unlimited. tried doing a 5.2ghz per core but that doesnt seem to work
I set the throttle treshhold to 85degrees, I think I could bump it to 90 comfortably?
also lemme check if my fancurve is correct, and it actually goes to 100%
queen violet
Realistically I would set it manually to 5.0 or 5.1ghz anyway, but yes maybe try set it to 90-95oC if you really want to use the algorithm
verbal mortar
But I feel like trying to do 5.2 or even 5 on all cores is just too much
Ive got good cooling but its not... THAT good
3 fans in the front, 2 exhausts in the back and I have lik a big beQuiet aircooler
not their biggest, but big
queen violet
280mm radiator?
verbal mortar
nope, not watercooling in this build
queen violet
Ahhh air cooler
5.0ghz sustained should be perfectly sustainable
And since ur running at 4.8ghz most of the time ur performance will increase
And stop the FPS drops when ur cpu downclock
verbal mortar
yea, I mean realisticly im only getting a couple of fps out of it in game but this is just for the sport of overclocking if yk what i mean
verbal mortar
Nope it was never unstable
queen violet
Oh right
verbal mortar
it just throttled down, or couldnt sustain 5.2
verbal mortar
yes
queen violet
100+ is when it gets bad so if you can run say 5.2ghz at 90oC that’s fine
verbal mortar
Yea lets try that
queen violet
What motherboard do you have btw?
verbal mortar
Its not that good
the VRMs are
enough... I guess
its an Asrock extreme x490 I believe
or smthn
queen violet
Oke
verbal mortar
Extreme 4
queen violet
Extreme 4 z490?
verbal mortar
its at 1.35 or 1.34
queen violet
Ye that’s good
verbal mortar
im not sure but I think when I did 1.34 it crashed under load
queen violet
Try 1.35 then
verbal mortar
Thats what its on rn
verbal mortar
Dude at first I didnt set a manual voltage
and my cpu was asking
some stupid amount
so had to shut it off
it asked 1.44
or something stupid
verbal mortar
Currently running a stress test. its circling around 4ghz all cores
when im doing cinebench
having 4 cores with hyperthreading disabled aswell*
my Vcore is at 1.328
which is actually really low no?
for reference. I also just put all my fans on 100% Ill do actual fan curves later. but when im doing something that has a load this heavy I dont mind 100%
queen violet
Ur 10 core barely beats my 5600x in multi core
I get 11600
So ye that’s very low
Should be around 16k
4ghz is also very low
verbal mortar
Keep in mind im 10cores 16 threads. not 20
but yes i need to tweak stuff this is not right
queen violet
Even with 16 threads u should be getting 14k atleast
verbal mortar
@queen violet Currently fluctuating around 4.7 and 4.8 without thermal throttling, having temperatures between 79 and 83
all cores
now its voltage right?
like what else could possibly lower the core clock if its not throttling
nvm I crashed
@queen violet theres no way it should be this low right
verbal mortar
its 4,5 now
queen violet
Should be able to run it stable with hyper threading on tho
Hyper threading off you aim for 5.0+
Your running 1.35 core in bios right?
verbal mortar
1.38 since it crashed on 1.35 all of a sudden
queen violet
What Ilc?
queen violet
Is it not in bios?
verbal mortar
Idk I think i glossed over it/ didnt tweak it
queen violet
Ye
verbal mortar
I put it on auto, was on level 1 previously
verbal mortar
queen violet
That’s better, all core hyperthreading?
verbal mortar
yes
verbal mortar
better but still not what im aiming for
queen violet
LLC should help with voltages and stability
verbal mortar
you think LLC is the only thing thats preventing it from going to 5ghz all cores
queen violet
Possibly
queen violet
What is the clock set too? Oh are u manually setting core or using the thermal boost
verbal mortar
I put the all core option and set it to 50
so 5Ghz
Interesting, now that im no longer under load my voltage is on 1.36 now
verbal mortar
and LLC would help with this?
queen violet
Just LLC I’m pretty sure
queen violet
Well it compensates more than level 1, so helps with all core stability
verbal mortar
oh ok
queen violet
And 3 is a good mid point
So if it’s stable you can try lower
If it’s not you can try higher
Most likely you’ll need between Level 3 and Level 6
verbal mortar
Seems im hitting a plateau, still stable so far, but It started throttling here and there
I guess my cooling just simply cant handle more
verbal mortar
1.296
queen violet
1.296 watts?
verbal mortar
temperatures in the high 80s throttling every now and then
wait
nono
I thought you meantcurrent
queen violet
temperatures in the high 80s throttling every now and then
Ur throttle limit sounds low? What’s it set too
verbal mortar
verbal mortar
Ur throttle limit sounds low? What’s it set too
90
queen violet
Yep, what paste did you use?
queen violet
Right, I would probably consider a better cooling system
You could try repasting with NT-H2 or MX-5 first
If that doesn’t work then maybe an aio
verbal mortar
I mean like I said I honestly am just testing its limits just for sport
queen violet
94oC is that max safe testing temperature btw
verbal mortar
Perhaps
I was thinking if maybe I didnt put on the cooler tight enough, but I think if i didnt it would probably have much much higher temperatures alot quicker
verbal mortar
yea
queen violet
DC1?
queen violet
Within 300 points, so within margin of error
Incase something temporarily ran in the background
queen violet
wait Ill send you my cooler
Ok
queen violet
Yep
Probably about a 3oC difference between NT-H2 and DC-1
But I doubt you’ll be running 100% core loads all the time
verbal mortar
rarely hahahaa
the I9 is mainly bought for using tons of virtual machines at the same time, so I can assign more cores to each and have a smoother experience on them
- I got a really good deal on it so I paid maybe 30eur extra over an I7
verbal mortar
Yea, I think ill keep it at this this runs really nice
my pc is dead silent while idle or just simple browsing
and still very powerfull underload
queen violet
Ye that cooler is mega quiet apparently
verbal mortar
Thanks for helping me out man, always nice having an extra brain on this
queen violet
Silent wow
verbal mortar
im sure youve heard of them
queen violet
Yep
verbal mortar
They are unbeatable imo
queen violet
My pc is 50 decibels under load 😂
queen violet
Ye lol
verbal mortar
how
verbal mortar
loudest part in my pc is my gpu
but I dont have it overclocked cuz the sound is just horrid
its a higher tone
queen violet
Ye everything I have is oc’d
My 5600x hits 80oC in all core tests with only 6 cores 😂
And a 280mm rad
queen violet
oh no
ok apparently something is up @verbal mortar
what score do you get if u set the cpu to stock
Cause another guy gets close to 16k while stock and 17.1k when oc’d to 5.1ghz
So @14k ur running slower
And possibly hotter
verbal mortar
strange
queen violet
Very
tiny oar
Hi guys, newbie alert.
Need a suggestion. Should i get Dell SE edition laptop with ryzen 5 and RX 5600 or lenovo ryzen 7 with GTX 1650
raw marsh
Same thing, #💻-building-a-pc
raw marsh
Sorry
static pecan
Lmao
crimson scroll
🤦
static pecan
It do be like that sometimes
tall cove
It is like that
raw marsh
I'll leave now
tall cove
Uhhh you gotta convince me
tiny oar
Ah, i thought you wanted me to ping here. :)
crimson scroll
how much is the laptop @tiny oar
static pecan
Need a suggestion. Should i get Dell SE edition laptop with ryzen 5 and RX 5600 ...
You're good, no worries. The 5600M is comparable to the RTX 2060 mobile, but that Dell SE has some funky problems of it's own, at least from the review I watched of it. If you can, I would wait for more AMD Advantage laptops to come to market with 67 and 6600M GPUs and get one of those
tiny oar
Thanks, i saw that too, however, people are saying that after the new driver updates it is running fine. Also, i am mainly confused about should i pair AMD CPU and GPU or Nvidia would play along nicely as well
static pecan
That's really just personal preference honestly, although like I said in your specific case that 5600M would outpace a GTX 1650 mobile in pretty much every game, especially if AMD finally got their drivers figured out for it
tiny oar
Yes, but i have to compromise on CPU as Dell has only ryzen 5 available and lenovo has ryzen 7.
And, any feedback on built quality , whether dell is better than lenovo or is it the other way around.
static pecan
I gotta dip out for a bit, but I'll ping you later when I can help out more, or just DM you if you still have questions
tiny oar
Great! Thanks buddy. Thanks for indulging me.
open elk
@tall cove our profile pics are similar but you are from the dark side
open elk
ok better
verbal mortar
what score do you get if u set the cpu to stock
Have been thinking about it and 100% its just the vrms
I did a long gaming session though this evening. and its lowest point was 4.8ghz, highest just 5Ghz
which is just perfect
native wolf
queen violet
Have been thinking about it and 100% its just the vrms
Ye that would make sense
queen violet
I did a long gaming session though this evening. and its lowest point was 4.8ghz...
That’s much better
brazen wolf
can anyone help me build a pc?
my budget is 2k
and id like watercooling
any helo would be appreciated
brazen wolf
bet can u dm me
open elk
@brazen wolf your welcome bye
deft dock
it says compatibility issue
the compatibility issue is probably the possibility of the MB you picked needing a bios update for Vermeer cpu's aka Ryzen 500 series.
if you click on the underlined see "details" below it should explain.
brazen wolf
the compatibility issue is probably the possibility of the MB you picked needing...
what would u recommend
to get
deft dock
tbh the B550 chipset is the most recent one there is, even releaced more recently than the X570. so the chance of in fact needing a bios update for the cpu you picked while possible ofc it's highly dependant on the manufacture date of the MB itself, if it was manufactored recently it should bring a newer bios, if it has been in their warehouse\stock for a while it might bring an older bios.
tho most b550 MB's you can update the bios even without the cpu
gimme a sec so i can check the model you picked.
brb
raw marsh
this good?
idk what to fix
You don't need a 750w PSU, you can cut down the price of the ram, you don't need to pay that much for a windows key and there are better CPU coolers out there
brazen wolf
what should i replace it w
deft dock
@brazen wolf as you can see in the pic it has the bios flash button on the I\O shield so i think you are good even if it brought an older pre-vermeer bios
brazen wolf
ahh so confusing
deft dock
what Melker is saying is correct you can skip the win 10 version directly from MS and buy a key later on for way cheaper.
brazen wolf
what does that mean
raw marsh
what should i replace it w
650W psu will be enough, crucial ballistix ram, any other windows key and a better performing cooler would be the Arctic Liquid Freezer
brazen wolf
which one
raw marsh
Check case rad compatibility
deft dock
what does that mean
the Windows part? it means you can remove the windows and save the cost of that on your cart, you then go to MS own website and use a flash drive to create an Win 10 bootable drive, you install it and then later when you wan you just buy a win 10 key online from a key store and you should save about 90% of the cost.
brazen wolf
deft dock
<a:confused_panic:585541604950016040>
it's ok, just ask away.
noble oak
Is 16gbs of ram enough for a 3080? Or should i upgrade the ram?
static pecan
Capacity doesn't affect performance as much as the timings of the ram does, but 16GB is generally fine for gaming
noble oak
hey, i wanna stream either beat saber or minecraft or something like that, what graphics card should i get for it
median rivet
Anyone know anything about NAS drives? IE can I literally just use a NAS drive as a normal HDD? Store games on it, play from it etc
noble oak
hey, i wanna stream either beat saber or minecraft or something like that, what ...
The best you can afford. 30 series will last longer where as 20s wont. But way cheaper
verbal mortar
Anyone know anything about NAS drives? IE can I literally just use a NAS drive a...
Im pretty sure you could
but NAS drives are made to be permanently on
they dont like getting turned on and off all the time
but it would work
queen violet
which one
What cpu?
Amd:
5600x-240mm
5800x-280mm
5900x-360mm
5950x-360mm
Intel:
Any non K cpu-240mm or air cooler
I5 240mm
I7 280mm
I9 360mm
If you plan on Overclocking then you want a 280mm rad minimum for any of these
verbal mortar
are the arctic liquid aio' s any good?
queen violet
Yes they are great
verbal mortar
if im really comitted I could get one some day
queen violet
Use some good thermal paste too
verbal mortar
should I do 360 in the front or 280 at the top
Im guessing the difference would be negligable
verbal mortar
i9 10850k
queen violet
Oh yes, well a 280mm would probably be fine, but a 360mm would be for a good overclocking chip(5.2ghz all core+ etc…)
Problem with side mounting is your pumping hot air into ur case, so you get a hotter GpU and ram
But your cpu temps will drop slightly
raw marsh
Use some good thermal paste too
The compound they include is more than adequate
raw marsh
I am overclocking, and it's performing optimally
queen violet
Fair enough
verbal mortar
@queen violet If i have a bunch of leftover fans, whats stopping me from doing push pull on my radiator
nothin right?
queen violet
Nothing
crimson scroll
size constraints
verbal mortar
thats not a problem either, but indeed something I should take into a count
queen violet
Well yes, if your motherboard has vrm’s at the top the head sink can often get in the way
But if a full size fan doesn’t fit you can always screw 2x90mm fans in on 1 side then cable tie it flat
queen violet
I would do the same but my motherboard top vrm’s heat sink is too large to fit fans below the rad, since I have a pull config on my top mount
idle bridge
Amd:
5600x-240mm
5800x-280mm
5900x-360mm
5950x-360mm
Intel:
Any non K cpu-240mm ...
You won't really need an I9 or 5950x for gaming, And it also depends on your budget.
If you want AMD, then either a 5600x or a 5900x (5800x is kinda bad value compared to the 5900x)
If you want Intel I would recommend 10th gen as 11th gen is kinda expensive compared to what you get
An I7 or I9 would ofc have the best performance, and under that there are several different variants
k for overclocking
f means no integrated GPU in the CPU
those are the ones you'll most commonly see for desktop variants
verbal mortar
Just saying here from experience, the I9 is an oven
night yew
i will mabye build a pc, its my first time, any tips on building or good things to use?
crimson scroll
queen violet
If you want AMD, then either a 5600x or a 5900x (5800x is kinda bad value compar...
5800x is actually pretty good value now and great for overclocking, about £350 in the U.K. right now. 5950x isn’t necessarily for gaming yes but your still gunna want a 360mm rad if not even more so. I5 vs I7 vs I9 is pretty similar in terms of gaming, the only real reason I7’s and I9’s perform better is due to the higher boost clocks and I9 boost algorithm. 11th gen is also very good value right now.
queen violet
i will mabye build a pc, its my first time, any tips on building or good things ...
https://youtu.be/gO-V8E9MIBg
I found this video helpful too
queen violet
i will mabye build a pc, its my first time, any tips on building or good things ...
Use pcpartpicker to create a build list, and ask here or the pc build discord if you need any help with creating one. Then use a build guide video such as the two linked above aswell as your case or motherboard guide to put everything together. Then with cable management, buy a 200 pack of cable ties, and if you aren’t sure where a cable goes or what it does send an image here or check the motherboard manual. When building, it’s best to take it slow and steady, I know it’s exciting building a pc but it’s best to take it one step and a time. Took me nearly a day to build and setup my first pc, but it was worth it. It will probably take you less time depending on your build, if your ever unsure of something there is no harm in asking for help.
steady vector
whats better a rx 570 or a 1660
crimson scroll
1660
idle bridge
5800x is actually pretty good value now and great for overclocking, about £350 i...
11th gen is a bit of a stopgap for 12th, got about 19% higher IPC, but runs kinda hot and is still on 14 nm. Not saying it's bad for gaming, just saying it's not gonna be the best, also still kinda expensive compared to 10th gen. 11th gen I9 have iirc 2 cores less and cost 150 dollars more on Newegg, and the I5 11400f is about 120 dollars more expensive than the 10400KF
5800x is basically a worsely binned 5900x. It has 4 less cores and lower boost clocks, and costs about 450 USD, meanwhile for 100 dollars more you can get those 4 more cores, so compared to the other CPUs in the 5000 series lineup, it is kinda bad value. (Used MSRP pricing, but should serve as a rule of thumb, as prices are normalising)
11th vs 10th gen performance isn't really that great most of the heavy lifting will be done by the GPU in games, and it will only really be bottle necked by the CPU at 1080p in some games, but the framerate will be high enough for it to not matter, because the framerate would probably exceed most monitors refresh rates.
languid hatch
I have all the parts for my computer but no graphics card I am trying to get an Nvidia but I have an old radeon can I use the radeon with the correct drivers and then switch when I get the Nvidia card?
raw marsh
Yes, you can upgrade your card later
noble oak
I have all the parts for my computer but no graphics card I am trying to get an ...
Yes. Dont buy windows tho
dusky echo
can you guys take a look at my build and see if its good or if i can find just as good but cheaper parts https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xmBcXb
crimson scroll
3700x for 360 cad? ouch
what are you doing with the build
also, no case
and no gpu, no integrated graphics
dusky echo
i have a case and 2070 im using already this is for everything else
yup Canada gets ouffed a lot when it comes to prices
crimson scroll
so
crimson scroll
what are you doing with the build
^^
dusky echo
gaming and streaming
crimson scroll
don't need 32gb of ram probably