💻-building-a-pc

[static pecan]

Lol

[idle bridge]

Crossing my fingers

If Chia succeds (Which I hope it doesn't), we would be looking at a large lack of storage space for both SSD and Harddrives 😦

[sweet stream]

Core duo?

[eager mural]

hey can someone give me there honest opinion on my Future build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QtTJdD

[crimson scroll]

overpriced and meh

and no gpu

[idle helm]

Anyone got any wifi dongles they'd reccomend?

[mellow walrus]

How’s mine?

[buoyant elk]

Anyone know if I should buy a PC or should I build one? Currently, due to the pandemic prices for things have skyrocketed and I honestly think i'd be better off buying a prebuilt. Anyone know any that are around 1000$?

[maiden cliff]

pre-built is for sure the way to go

I'd reccomend just spending the time going through local stores, seeing what they offer and also going through custom config services like ibuypower and seeing what you can get from those

[tall cove]

power gpu is pretty good from what ive heard

[maiden cliff]

lmao I just looked at Origin, and everything is $2k+

for the starting price

Digital Storm starts at $1400

if you're cool with a laptop that will get decent performance, on Amazon, you can find a ton of laptops with 16gb ram, and 1660/ti for $1000

My plan is to get one of those, because I found one for $950 with a 4800H, 1660ti, 16gb ram

[raw marsh]

Redux offers the best value

[maiden cliff]

I'd just need to buy storage

[raw marsh]

Origin are really not the best

[maiden cliff]

I was just going by what popped into my head first which were Origin and ibuypower

lmao Redux sells headphones for $30 and a headphone stand for $50

[north crow]

I need new keyboard. I want to have mechanical switches but I apex keyboards are hella expensive. Which keyboard choose?

[maiden cliff]

Apex Keyboard

I'd reccomend not asking here lmao

we're all biased

[north crow]

why

[maiden cliff]

I dont even own any steelseries products 😳

But I'm still biased

and I've used them before

[north crow]

So I will buy just Steelseries mouse. Not keyboard beacuse way too expensive for me

[maiden cliff]

I cant decide on a Steelseries mouse, so I bought a g502

[north crow]

Rival 600 is cool.

[maiden cliff]

I like all the buttons on the g502 and the scroll wheel lock

My g502 has 11 remappable buttons

I plan on buying the Apex 5 and Arctis 3 or 5

Just not yet

Because I just got a new job and a 3d printer

I work on a boat now

Boats are fun

Anybody wanna share their opinion with me on this laptop I wanna get?

It'll mostly be used for light gaming, CAD, and school

And light gaming to me is R6 Siege on medium settings

[crimson scroll]

it's fine

[craggy sparrow]

looks good

[noble oak]

Intel i7 10th and a 3080 is that a good combo?

[idle helm]

Still waiting on that wifi dongle recommendation

[crimson scroll]

depends on price and which i7 but sure seems fine

[idle helm]

[crimson scroll]

if nobody has responded to you, it's because they don't have a recommendation

[static pecan]

A WiFi dongle is a WiFi dongle lol. Just look at the most popular ones on Amazon or Newegg or whatever and find a price you're willing to pay

[idle helm]

Oh I sse

[idle helm]

Understanding

[idle helm]

Thanks

[mellow walrus]

Hey anyone need help

[maiden cliff]

no

[noble oak]

lol

[dry narwhal]

i swear the amd cooler looks so good and bad at the same time in a build

also do you have it on upside down?

[pseudo ivy]

Does anybody have a checklist for what I need to build a PC. My friends and I are trying to migrate from console, so would be helpful, thanks.

[static pecan]

pcpartpicker.com

[pseudo ivy]

Thanks @static pecan

[raw marsh]

No, looks fine

[empty osprey]

So im new to building a pc and need some feedback on the specs, on what case would fit/be compatible with these parts and will i need to buy extra air fans for the case. Here's what i've got:
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 WINDFORCE OC 6G
COUGAR AQUA 280
SEAGATE Barracuda25 Guardian 1TB 2.5"
Corsair Builder Series CX550M 80+ Bronze 550W
Team Group MP34 512GB M.2 NVMe/PCIe
Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB(2x8GB) DDR4 3200Mhz
AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Turbo) AM4 BOX
MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX
from where I'm buying the parts it costs: 1,074.36 euro and I'm hoping that i don't have to go over the budget of 1,228.43 euro (@ me if you have anything thx)

[raw marsh]

Any ATX case will be fine with your parts, a 2060 is unlikely to have clearance issues

[empty osprey]

sooo any atx and the 2060 is good aight so no extra fans?

[raw marsh]

2060 is alright, maybe invest in a couple fans if the case doesn't include enough, but most will probably be fine as they are.

[empty osprey]

aight

[mellow walrus]

Actually you think so?

[dry narwhal]

doesnt the "amd" logo go on the top?

[dry narwhal]

yes

lmao

[raw marsh]

Yes. Which it is in the picture...

[dry narwhal]

wait

omfg

im actually dumb

[tall cove]

oof

[dry narwhal]

the pic was sideways

awsefiuhgerdasuhdgrs

[tall cove]

relatable

[undone hatch]

i Will go for bigger PSU for future expension

and for ram, higher the better for AMD

[maiden cliff]

he doesn't need better ram

3200mhz is typically considered the sweet spot

[empty osprey]

👌

[maiden cliff]

going up to 3600mhz will only give 3-4 extra fps

any higher than that and you'll get a fraction of a frame extra for each higher speed

[undone hatch]

not only that if you plan to go streaming 32gb is the least

[raw marsh]

Not really, for 1080p streaming 16gigs is more than enough

[undone hatch]

I tried, I do not have nu,mbers but FPS will be effected,

[raw marsh]

Well there are more factors then just ram

[undone hatch]

CPU also effect

but ram 32gb for good quality stream is much better, but it his choise....

[crimson scroll]

not really

not every stream will require that much ram

[verbal spindle]

if you have a budget you probably cant get something very high quality with at least an i9 rtx so maybe like a cyberpowerpc intel i5 gtx 1660 super 2tb 16gb ram for like only $1,100

[raw marsh]

Why buy a cyberpowerpc

[buoyant elk]

Any recommendations though?

Since, this is gonna be my first PC.

So I wanna go with something decent.

@verbal spindle if I wanted to switch from 2tb to 500SSD how much would it cost?

im not planning on playing SUPER funky games but decent ones that I can run easily with butter frame rate.

take horizon: zero dawn as an example

[prime estuary]

how much is a 1660 super on its own?

[verbal spindle]

ssd (better): around 100. hhd (seagate decent): 50

[raw marsh]

In the current market, who knows

[verbal spindle]

around like 300

[buoyant elk]

the hell?

[prime estuary]

ok thanks

[buoyant elk]

im finding them for 800

what?!?

[verbal spindle]

but not rn bc of the gpu shortage

[raw marsh]

Now is not the best time to build a PC clearly

[prime estuary]

bc i only have a gtx 960 now

[verbal spindle]

what site are you on thats as much as an rtx 3080

[buoyant elk]

pcpartpicker

[verbal spindle]

ooh i would definetly upgrade

[verbal spindle]

use microcenter

its really good

[buoyant elk]

I live in the middleast though

so idk if it ships there

[verbal spindle]

same

[buoyant elk]

does microcenter ship faster tho

[verbal spindle]

what state (if comfortable telling)

[buoyant elk]

it took 3 months for my rival 3

to ship

@verbal spindle Bahrain.

idk how states work

im stupid

[raw marsh]

Thats completely different, pcpp just scrapes prices from other sites

[verbal spindle]

holy it can take less than a day

3 hours to 3 weeks

to ship idk

[buoyant elk]

yeah my dad got me a rival 3 because my old mouse stopped working and i helped him with a crap ton of work.

and he wanted to get me something

so he got the rival 3 off of amazon

[verbal spindle]

what country

[buoyant elk]

it took 3 months

@verbal spindle bahrain is the country

idk how states work

[verbal spindle]

oh lemme look it up brb

[buoyant elk]

its near saudi

[verbal spindle]

idk if it will ship there

[buoyant elk]

it does ship to saudi tho right?

[verbal spindle]

i live across the world from you

[buoyant elk]

wait where do you live

[verbal spindle]

idk all i know is usa, canada, and mxico

[verbal spindle]

usa

[buoyant elk]

u said u live in the middle east tf-

[verbal spindle]

oops

i meant northwest

[buoyant elk]

bruh-

how do you get that confused

[verbal spindle]

idk

im an idiot

anyways unfortunately you cant go on microcenter

just stay on pc part picker

[buoyant elk]

wait

I got an idea

my aunts and uncles

live in US

my dad says we can ship parts/pc to them

and they can ship to us

[verbal spindle]

oh good idea

do you have access to microcenter

[raw marsh]

He just said he lived in Bahrain

[buoyant elk]

uhh

[verbal spindle]

i know

[buoyant elk]

well my dad says

he'll just give my uncle

hes an engineer my uncle is

and he plays games

so hes a gamer.

[verbal spindle]

woah

cool

[buoyant elk]

he suggests he'll give my uncle the card number

and my uncle can help me out

picking parts.

[verbal spindle]

oh

i suggest like at least an rtx 2060

[buoyant elk]

my uncle even played Portal Knights with me when he visited when I was younger

[verbal spindle]

niceee

[buoyant elk]

@verbal spindle my budget is around 900$

maybe 1000

idk

[verbal spindle]

oh

then you may not get a really good pc

[buoyant elk]

im not tryna get a REALLY GOOD

im not gonna be out here playing crysis and crap

[verbal spindle]

it could run mc at like 200 fps

[buoyant elk]

I just wanna get a good upgrade so i dont have to play on a potato.

my mac can run MC at 200 fps.

[verbal spindle]

okay

it wont be much better

[buoyant elk]

nah

the main issue

with my mac is the graphics card

is older than some of my cousins.

[raw marsh]

Now really isn't a good time to build a PC, try to see if you can get a GPU at a good price to begin with

[verbal spindle]

my pc will be shipping soon it will cost 2k usd

it will run mc at like 1100 fps

[raw marsh]

Good for you

[buoyant elk]

hmm

im probs gonna get a 1660 super

but if I see a 2060 for a good price

ill buy it.

[verbal spindle]

a gtx 1660 super rn is like 600 dollars

[buoyant elk]

wb the 2060?

[verbal spindle]

no 1660

because were in a crisis

the gpu shortage

[buoyant elk]

wb the 2060 though?

[verbal spindle]

in about a year itll be like 300

[verbal spindle]

thats like 700-800 rn

[buoyant elk]

jesus...

[raw marsh]

It's not in active production, so you'll have to hit the aftermarket. Prices vary

[verbal spindle]

normally its like 350-400

[buoyant elk]

@raw marsh "aftermarket"?

[raw marsh]

Ebay, local selling apps etc

[buoyant elk]

yikes...

[verbal spindle]

microcenter sells stuff like theres no shortage

3060 for 500 dollars

[buoyant elk]

wha-

how does that make sense

how is rtx 2060 in microcenter 700-800 then

[verbal spindle]

no its not on there

[raw marsh]

Yeah, so its not likely you'll be able to get one

[verbal spindle]

theres like no 20 series anymore theyre getting discountinued but theres some places you can get 2060 and 2070

[crimson scroll]

the best chance for a human to get a card is if you were in the evga queue early on, or wait for best buy drops

[verbal spindle]

2080 is discontinued

[verbal spindle]

evga isnt good

msi, asus, and gigabyte is best

[raw marsh]

uhh

[crimson scroll]

uhhhhhh

okay buddy

whatever you say

i no longer have the mental capacity to argue things

but sure, gigabyte best

[verbal spindle]

ok

[crimson scroll]

them of the never having a single gpu available without an overpriced bundle on newegg shuffle fame

[raw marsh]

I mean MSI is famed for their intuitive and effective software

Why go with anyone else

[crimson scroll]

msi of the suprim being 2x msrp pre scalp

[verbal spindle]

you have to go on another site

[crimson scroll]

very helpful

msi was also caught scalping their own cards

but no, tell me about how they're best

[verbal spindle]

what

[crimson scroll]

you also listed three companies

[verbal spindle]

whatever you say

[crimson scroll]

that's basically half of them

[verbal spindle]

bro im just listing the ones that dont catch on fire like evga

[crimson scroll]

???

[raw marsh]

Hmmm

[verbal spindle]

evga has problems

[crimson scroll]

every company has problems

you can pick on evga's bad vrms

[verbal spindle]

but not normally a fir

[crimson scroll]

and i can pick on any other company having some bad incidents

[verbal spindle]

ok

[crimson scroll]

that was also two generations ago...

[verbal spindle]

i never said you cant get evga

[raw marsh]

That was 1 incident 5 years ago

[crimson scroll]

i never said you said

but you can't say evga isn't good and the others are

with that being your justification

[verbal spindle]

this server though.

[crimson scroll]

you're free to leave

[verbal spindle]

why are you toxic

[crimson scroll]

you think i'm being toxic?

i haven't insulted you once

[verbal spindle]

please refer to this

[crimson scroll]

you insulted the server...

[raw marsh]

Snarky, not toxic

[crimson scroll]

so i said you were free to leave if you didn't like it

[buoyant elk]

what

did I miss.

[crimson scroll]

don't worry about it

[buoyant elk]

why are gpus so expensive right now?

i know theres the pandemic

but before they were cheaper

what's with the sudden spike?

[crimson scroll]

what you just said

[buoyant elk]

I remember last year the GTX 1660 was WAYY cheaper than currently.

[crimson scroll]

pandemic exacerbates everything

[raw marsh]

Silicon shortage, covid, increase in popularity

[buoyant elk]

also whats a miner

people say people are buying masses of GPUs for mining

idk what mining is.

[crimson scroll]

yeah

mining crypto

[verbal spindle]

@buoyant elk the gpu shortage

theyre putting for bigger prices because theyre trying to make more and keep some in stock

[buoyant elk]

yoikes

when will the price MOST LIKELY go down?

[verbal spindle]

and putting for more money bc of crypto currency

[crimson scroll]

lol

next year

[raw marsh]

Solving complex maths problems to be rewarded in a certain cryptocurrency to simplify it

[verbal spindle]

could go down in a month, could end in 10 years we dont know

[buoyant elk]

sad

i might as well buy a prebuilt

and upgrade it

[verbal spindle]

okay

[crimson scroll]

that is what some people are doing, yes

[verbal spindle]

why is this an emoji lmao

[buoyant elk]

yeah I just went on ebay

the 1080 normal is going for 600 atm.

before wasnt it like 300 or so?

[verbal spindle]

idk what your country prices are

[buoyant elk]

thats the main reason my setup part picks keep going to like 1300

because the goddamn gpu

is 700$

[crimson scroll]

yes

see the other comments on gpu prices lol

[buoyant elk]

it annoys me a lot lol

[crimson scroll]

yeah it annoys everybody

[verbal spindle]

wait

it says microcenter is avalible to your country on microcenter

i just looked it up

[buoyant elk]

tf?

i checked and it says its not international?

say what

[verbal spindle]

it said it didnt

[buoyant elk]

so i've checked

and if I can ship parts

[crimson scroll]

the best deals on MC are all local only anyways

[buoyant elk]

to my uncle in the US

I could get a 3060 for 400

[raw marsh]

Could you?

[buoyant elk]

it says so

[verbal spindle]

they sell it for 534 at lowest

gpu shortage

[buoyant elk]

wha-

why is there a 3060 for 400 then?

say what

yeah its literally for 400

[verbal spindle]

wait maybe thats your countey money

[buoyant elk]

no no

[verbal spindle]

show ss

[buoyant elk]

it says 400$

[verbal spindle]

screenshot

[raw marsh]

Go ahead and try to buy it

[buoyant elk]

oh shit

[verbal spindle]

and senc

[buoyant elk]

nvm

its evga.

[verbal spindle]

send

[buoyant elk]

@raw marsh only available in actual store

[verbal spindle]

just send screenshot

[buoyant elk]

not available online

wait

[verbal spindle]

its in store because of gpu shortage

[crimson scroll]

lol

[verbal spindle]

look up a store in your contry

oh crap

[buoyant elk]

i cant buy it sadly.

dfidnt u say evga isnt very good?

[crimson scroll]

and this is why i countered

[verbal spindle]

i guess its okay

[crimson scroll]

we don't need nonsense like that being spread

[verbal spindle]

the 3090s are bad

everything above and below is fine

[raw marsh]

what

[crimson scroll]

ah yes

all the cards above the 3090

[buoyant elk]

"all the cards ABOVE the 3090"

:what:

bruh how does that make sense tf.

[verbal spindle]

quadro rtx

its better

[crimson scroll]

that's not above the 3090 for consumers

[verbal spindle]

but its better than 3090

[raw marsh]

Workstation card

[verbal spindle]

and 5k dollars

[crimson scroll]

the A100 is better than the 3090

this is nonsense

it's not in the context of a consumer card

[buoyant elk]

bruh wtf

stuff in bahrain

is overpriced as hell

600 BD for a 2060

[verbal spindle]

woah

what

[buoyant elk]

and thats around

1800 US dollars

tf?

[verbal spindle]

WHAT

[raw marsh]

Yes, we have been discussing this for the past 30 mins

[buoyant elk]

I could buy a good system with that much money.

[crimson scroll]

...

[buoyant elk]

yeah no i aint getting crap from bahrain

[crimson scroll]

why is it like every time you find a gpu price you're surprised like we didn't just go over them

save me melker

[verbal spindle]

2060s in the highest prices of gpu shortage was like 500

[buoyant elk]

@crimson scroll no my point is

the fact that its 1800

isnt that way more than normal even in gpu shortage?

yeah the 2060 on amazon is 900

[crimson scroll]

not really

different regions will have different pricing

[verbal spindle]

2080 was such a good gpu :(

2080 ti

they dont sell it anymore

[crimson scroll]

not really

barely offered any performance uplift if you had a 1080ti

there was no point to getting the 2080

[verbal spindle]

but its pretty good

[buoyant elk]

meh

so what do u guys think

[verbal spindle]

the raytracing was eh decent

[buoyant elk]

order parts to the US then have them shipped

or just buy a prebuilt

[verbal spindle]

yeah sure!

[crimson scroll]

first generation ray tracing was not good

[buoyant elk]

and upgrade it over time

[verbal spindle]

just get order parts to us

[verbal spindle]

yeah

kinda agreed

it was first raytraced gpu

[crimson scroll]

so, to be pedantic, it actually isn't

ray tracing has been around for a long time

they just marketed it that way

[verbal spindle]

ok

remember this when there was no gpu shortage 😔

[crimson scroll]

it was never available back then either

[raw marsh]

When could you ever buy a 30 series card for retail

Apart from early preorders

[verbal spindle]

thats actually a fact

[raw marsh]

What

[crimson scroll]

...

you seem to fence sit a lot

[verbal spindle]

what

me?

[crimson scroll]

yes, you

[verbal spindle]

i like fences 👍

[crimson scroll]

you say one thing and as soon as it's proved wrong you say "oh yeah i totally agree with you"

just...don't say the misinformation in the first place

[verbal spindle]

cool

thank you

[static pecan]

Forgive me for I have sinned 😩

[crimson scroll]

"gift item" but still costs money

ok

[static pecan]

Lol in the invoice it doesn't 😂

[crimson scroll]

yeah i see the order adjustment

just kinda weird to still add a price like that

seems more like the order adjustment is for the motherboard though

[static pecan]

Under the discounts section in the invoice there's one for the combo discount and a separate one for the price of the "free gift"

Idk why it doesn't show up on the order pages though

The order adjustment in the screenshot is both the price of the gift and the combo discount added together

[crimson scroll]

seems overly complicated

just what i'd expect from them

[static pecan]

That's Newegg for you

At least it's coming next Wednesday lol

[crimson scroll]

sell me your old card

[static pecan]

You want a 5700XT?

[crimson scroll]

ya, why not

[static pecan]

Hey if you're actually serious about buying then yeah I'll sell it to you

Otherwise I'm just going to put it up on ebay and craigslist

[crimson scroll]

ye we can talk more in pms

[static pecan]

Sounds good 👌

[tall cove]

Saucy takes that offer over my 3070 at msrp offer

Hurt

[static pecan]

It do be like that sometimes

[crimson scroll]

i haven't taken any offers yet

wtf

[static pecan]

Also true lol

If you're actually interested just DM me whenever and we can talk about it

[maiden cliff]

Is it bad that I'm tempted to sell my PC at scalper prices and just wait a while to get a new one?
I have a 3100, 5500XT 8GB, and 16GB 3000mhz RAM

I probably wouldn't go full scalper, since last I checked the 5500XT on Amazon or Newegg was $900 Idk about Ebay or anything.

Last I checked was also like a week ago

Yeah, my specific card is currently 899.98.

Cheapest on Ebay that I saw is $350

[idle bridge]

1. Scalping is bad, literally just upselling but worse.
2. Your pc is already used, so you'd be selling a used component at higher than MSRP price.

[crimson scroll]

Eh

I mean, if he doesn't sell at a higher price, it's likely somebody will buy his and turn around and sell it to a miner at exorbitant prices

[undone hatch]

I heard now miners use SSD to mine , whats the story of it?

[crimson scroll]

Look up chia coin

[maiden cliff]

Waiting for RAMcoin

After thay it'll be PSUcoin

Somehow gonna transmit power

[crimson scroll]

all mining is already a colossal waste of power

[maiden cliff]

Yeah, miners are gonna buy PSUs to somehow send power to other miners

IDK man

shit's crazy

[crystal mica]

did he give into a scalper?

or where did u buy that radeon card from?

[raw marsh]

Well you can see the price

[crystal mica]

ouch

[noble oak]

Stick to nvidia

[raw marsh]

That's not a sensible thing to say

[noble oak]

The right thing to say

Most apps are built for nvidia cards

UE4 was built for nvidia cards

[crimson scroll]

not this kid again

[noble oak]

Such an adult comment to post.

The following screenshot is what you get when you give a shot to AMD.
https://i.imgur.com/MXsTM4Y.jpg

[crimson scroll]

this means nothing to the average consumer

[noble oak]

Yes it means everything when a commercial game engine such as UE4 is built first and foremost for Nvidia GPUs.

[crimson scroll]

no, it doesn't

[noble oak]

Yes. It does.

[crimson scroll]

you posted a screenshot with no context

[noble oak]

Where do you take your info? Cereal boxes?

[crimson scroll]

such an adult comment to post.

you need to stop posting absolutes

[noble oak]

Tim Sweeney himself specified that Unreal Engine 4 works best with Nvidia.
And since I'm a game developer, this is no secret for us either.
Most apps work best with Nvidia.

And that includes both video games and 3D apps.

Now, you can put your head in the sand if you want.

It won't change a thing

[raw marsh]

...

[crimson scroll]

...

what an idiot

it doesn't matter which card is more efficient in UE4

what matters to the end user is the experience

if a 6800xt and a 3080 perform the same in game, why wouldn't i get the cheaper one?

that may be the 3080

that may be the 6800xt

you keep trying to bring in your "developer perspective"

use whatever you want to develop your games

but stop trying to force your viewpoint and your use case on everyone

this is the SECOND time you've tried to do this

now screw off

[noble oak]

You are toxic. There is that.

[crimson scroll]

yeah, i'm toxic to people who are toxic and won't admit they're wrong, and potentially misleading people into buying stuff they don't need to

[noble oak]

Use your web browser and do the research on the subject.

[crimson scroll]

why don't you?

6800xt trades blows with the 3080 in rasterized performance

and at msrp it's $50 cheaper

so....

who cares about what UE4 was developed for?

as an end user, again, i care about actual performance i'm getting

[noble oak]

Yeah, runs great.
https://i.imgur.com/MXsTM4Y.jpg

[crimson scroll]

again

posting a screenshot with no context

meanwhile my screenshots validate my claims that the two cards trade blows

so...

[noble oak]

I told you the context. Should you be using a Nvidia GPU or AMD GPU?
If you are into games (esports or game dev). Nvidia works best.

[crimson scroll]

yeah that doesn't help me understand the context at all

it's a screenshot with some lines

[noble oak]

It's a character with exploded wireframe on AMD gpu

[crimson scroll]

....and?

[noble oak]

You'll get bugs and artifacts with AMD

[crimson scroll]

yeah, nobody has ever gotten any bugs ever with nvidia cards

i'm not saying amd is perfect

but to say you should only ever go nvidia is asinine

[noble oak]

I said it is more likely to occur with AMD.

[crimson scroll]

no, you didn't

you said "You'll get bugs and artifacts with AMD"

like it's a guarantee

don't try to gaslight and move the goalposts

[noble oak]

I said, there was greater support for NVIDIA.
End result? More bugs with AMD

[crimson scroll]

i am literally copying what you said six sentences ago...

for months csgo experienced a stuttering issue that was exclusive to nvidia cards

again, you're backtracking

[noble oak]

You can have stuttering issues if you don't cap your frame rate at a lower fps...

[crimson scroll]

...

"exclusive to nvidia cards"

e.g. does not happen on amd cards regardless of framerate

anyways, cya kid

goodbye from this server

goodbye from this server

[noble oak]

Well, you'll get it on Valorant and I got a AMD GPU

See ya.

Is the logitech g502 for $40 a good deal

[crimson scroll]

not bad

[raw marsh]

Pretty standard for the non-lightspeed variant

[noble oak]

Ite

G502 is excellent
That's if you don't mind having a thumb rest (wing)

And that really comes down to how you move your mouse.

The wing might hit your keyboard from time to time.
And it might give you trouble moving the mouse from right to left.

[undone hatch]

Chill

[undone hatch]

Chill

[crimson scroll]

?

The conversation has been over for ages

[noble oak]

https://www.alternate.nl/Samsung/LC24RG50FQU-23-5-inch-Curved-Gaming-Monitor/html/product/1542062 is this monitor any good

[pastel mist]

i think i actually use this one, its nice, its black levels arent all that great, but its got some nice features

if thats 144hz then yeah its the same one

[noble oak]

So it preforms good

[pastel mist]

yeah its good the 144hz is good, i dont see anything other than poor black levels

and i checked the pics they got of it, its the same one

[noble oak]

Ok Nice thanks

[pastel mist]

np

[noble oak]

is it very bad than those black levels

[heavy mulch]

#archive-user-support

[waxen ibex]

Hey. I wanna add more Storage space with one more ssd. My question now: is there a module to add 2 ssd's to the Mainboard?

[crimson scroll]

sure

i assume you mean m.2 ssds

[waxen ibex]

Yes

Do you have a link to something like that? I just find extern cases for this

[raw marsh]

There might be, but I don't know what motherboard you have

[waxen ibex]

An asus motherboard (B450 plus)

[raw marsh]

Looks like there's only 1 m.2 slot on that board, but you could use a sata ssd or a pcie m.2 adapter instead

[waxen ibex]

Okay. Thank you, I will try it with a pcie.

[devout wolf]

or just use 2.5"

[idle bridge]

Honestly 2.5" is ok too, you can just use the second SSD for mass storage of games you play less frequently and other things you use less.

[idle bridge]

144 Hz, 1080p for 169 euro (Don't know about shipping, for me it's free but might be different for others), ok adjustment to angle, supports AMD Freesync. The reviews look ok, it's a VA panel so you'll get a good contrast if that's what you want. No built in speakers but I assume you have headphones / speakers yourself. Looks pretty good

It says it comes with a power cable and a HDMI cable, so you shouldn't have to worry about that, other than to make sure that it's a power cable that fits the plugs where you are from.

[noble oak]

He thanks bro!

[whole hollow]

Should I be concerned?

[crimson scroll]

probably just being reported wrong

[whole hollow]

Yeah it's not even mine I saw it on reddit

[crimson scroll]

this channel isn't for shitposting...

[hybrid mountain]

What would be the best GPU for a Ryzen 5 3600, and 16 GB of 3200 mhz ram?

I currently have a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650

[full wind]

heh, laughs in gtx quadro p620 single fan

because I have the optiplex 9020 case which is like the smallest case to ever exist

[hybrid mountain]

damn

I have something that came with my prebuilt

A coolermaster something

[raw marsh]

Whatever you can find really

[hybrid mountain]

I was thinking maybe it could be a Radeon RX 5600 XT

There are some left here

[timid wind]

Which gpu can I use with intel core 2 duo for max performance?

Core 2 duo E6600

[maiden cliff]

Although this isn't very scientific, any modern GPU that is about $400 MSRP would be fine.

If I could've gotten one, my PC would've been a 3600X because at the time it was only $5 more than 3600 and a 3060 when that came out.

But I couldn't afford it when I got my PC and I'm glad I didn't wait.

[hybrid mountain]

I'm not in a hurry to upgrade since I have a GPU at the moment

[karmic hazel]

hello does anyone know the minimum specs to stream a game like valorant or apex legends?

[crimson scroll]

any modern nvidia card with nvenc will be fine

[karmic hazel]

what about ram and cpu

[crimson scroll]

cpu doesn't matter apart from being able to run the game if you're using nvenc

you could probably do it with 8gb ram but generally you want 16 like for any game

[karmic hazel]

Cool tysm

[tacit steppe]

Hey guys. I was looking for a new pc and i was looking for a Laptop that was 16 gb ram and either gtx1650ti or rtx2060. Should i go with the cheap one or spend a lot and get an rtx2060? Honestly i like the gtx more since they are both similiar and it gives me the fps i want but i still wanna Hear you guys's opinion. I want a Laptop btw

And i dont understand a lot about pcs

[crimson scroll]

depends on what you want to do

[raw marsh]

2060 is still significantly better than a 1650ti, but if you say you don't need it it's still just up to you.

[crimson scroll]

depends on the prices of the laptops

[mild meadow]

Me with a gtx 1650 super and a core i5 9400f i guess im fine

[sharp gazelle]

Yo I restarted my pc, and it’s still running and won’t display anything, it’s been like this for 10+ minutes...any ideas of why it’s like this?

[raw marsh]

That's not much to go off, have you used the reset button?

[sharp gazelle]

I have not

[timid wind]

Take off the ram sticks and clean the golden end with eraser and insert it
Then try

Me too had this same prob

[undone hatch]

Softaware problem?

[timid wind]

Not like that all the time
Just some hardware issues

[undone hatch]

I hade that problem after windows update on my laptop.....just checking

[timid wind]

Hm 🤔

[timid wind]

Try this @undone hatch

[timid wind]

Always prefer future proof

[crimson scroll]

that doesn't exist

[maiden cliff]

Not when new hardware releases yearly.

Except 2021, pretty sure both AMD and Nvidia aren't releasing anything this year.

[timid wind]

S

[maiden cliff]

Atleast not any new architectures.

[timid wind]

Hm

[maiden cliff]

Obviously Nvidia still gotta announce things like the 3050 ti that Samsung already announced.

[timid wind]

It's for laptop ?
Or pc
Or mobile ?

[crimson scroll]

why would it be for mobile

[maiden cliff]

Samsung announced it in their $1500 Galaxy Oddessy laptop.

[maiden cliff]

Could've been referring to the Samsung part, They could try and put it in a phone XD.

[timid wind]

Lenovo also confirmed for a laptop

[timid wind]

Yep

[undone hatch]

@SwagFoe i dot not check the ram, i went to recovery and delete the update...

[timid wind]

Does the problem gone or not ?

[undone hatch]

Gone.....laptop working normal again....but maybe diffrent case for you, maybe

[timid wind]

Hm
I think it will be in case of a pc 😅

[undone hatch]

Can it go to bios

Or windows safe mode

[timid wind]

S it can go when u click delete of function buttons (f1,f2...) as the laptop starts it will take u to bios index
No idea how to go to windows safe mode in windows 10

[undone hatch]

Ctrl +F8

[timid wind]

Right 👌

[undone hatch]

Diffrent laptop has diffrent way...

[timid wind]

S
I'm having acer laptop
For it. Its fn+f2

[undone hatch]

Ok....great, will it enter the safe mode

[timid wind]

No it will enter bios menu

[undone hatch]

Bios or windows safe mode

[timid wind]

Bios

[undone hatch]

Keep Pressing repetly f2 when u power on

[timid wind]

For windows safe mode
1.Press windows key + R
2.type msconfig in open box and select ok
3.select boot tab
4.under boot option choose safe mode

[undone hatch]

Try hitting f11

[half tundra]

Hello, I have something to ask but I'm not sure whether or not this is the right channel to ask in.. It's about a boot up screen..

And is it possible for me to show/send a picture of said screen?

[raw marsh]

Yeah

[half tundra]

Sorry I took it from my phone so the quality isn't that great..

Idk what this screen is and why it showed

[vocal carbon]

I think you hit something on your keyboard maybe

Because it doesn't show anything bad

its just showing your pc specs

[half tundra]

I'm positive I didn't...

Oh it doesn't? Thank you for clarifying! I've never booted up my PC into this screen so I was kinda worried..

[vocal carbon]

k

Im not sure I was just reading what it says on the screen

[half tundra]

Although I did accidentally clicked on restart even though I wanted to shut down, then I just shut it down right after it restarted.. Does that have anything to with it maybe?

[vocal carbon]

I don't think so but it always says you will lose unsaved data if you shut down or restart on the password screen

[half tundra]

Hmmmm I also needed to set my Ram speed back to 3200 after that screen since it went back down to 2666

[vocal carbon]

k

You could also use user support to see if other people can help more than me

[wary raven]

guys I am planning on getting the reazer tomahawk pc, is it good?

razer*

[maiden cliff]

You know it's just a case, right?

Atleast that's what I'm seeing on their site

[maiden cliff]

Send link for what you're getting

[wary raven]

ok

thats the specs

[noble oak]

Press F1, if it says no system go to windows website and look for the 64 bit windows OS

[half tundra]

Are there any specific reasons you might know as to how/why I got that screen when booting up?

[crimson scroll]

it explains on the screen

your ram might have been loose, or cmos got reset

[noble oak]

Well your ram or cmos did get reset just like what saucy said, I recommend try different ram slots

Or look a video up on YouTube. If it still happens buy new ram and return your ram to the place it was bought from

If it continues you might need a new motherboard.

But unplug the computer while unplugged press the power button for 10 seconds. Plug it back in and turn it on

[crimson scroll]

you don't need to do that unless you're trying to intentionally reset cmos

[noble oak]

Eh true

You do got a point

Just press F1 and see what happens @half tundra

And show me the screen

[half tundra]

What I did after that screen, I pressed F1, and saw that the Ram speed was reset to 2666, so I changed it back to 3200 and now it's running like normal again... Still wasn't sure how/what I did to get that screen tho..

[noble oak]

Oh okay Atleast it works

You might need to keep the speed to 3200

[half tundra]

Yeah.. Just wanted to know what that screen was initially..

[noble oak]

When you lower it I’m pretty sure it doesn’t send enough memory to the computer

[crimson scroll]

huh?

[noble oak]

Idk

[crimson scroll]

that's not how that works at all

there are multiple things that change when you change ram speed by xmp

[half tundra]

I didn't change anything before getting that screen tho

[crimson scroll]

the amount of memory available doesn't change though

[noble oak]

I used to have a HP pavilion and it shown that screen all the time

[crimson scroll]

the bandwidth does

[noble oak]

Ik I’m a stupid kid that know .1% of computers

[crimson scroll]

nah, you're not stupid

[raw marsh]

Now you know 2%

[noble oak]

I just don’t know

Yes

[half tundra]

Well anyhow, thanks for the replies bois have a good one!

[wary raven]

is this good specs

[crimson scroll]

that only says up to

[wary raven]

for my pc

[crimson scroll]

we also don't know the price

[raw marsh]

'20 series'

[crimson scroll]

and i can almost guarantee you if you're asking here in this fashion, you don't need a 9980hk

[noble oak]

It’s decent, the only ray tracing you can do is probably minecraft

But it’s decent

[crimson scroll]

plus it probably has bad cooling

[half tundra]

LMAO

[noble oak]

But a 20 series is old

[crimson scroll]

you need a specific parts list though

[raw marsh]

Its... last gen

[crimson scroll]

20 series isn't that old...

[wary raven]

im using it for rendering anmimations and to play mc

[raw marsh]

Not old

[noble oak]

It is?

Hold up

[crimson scroll]

yes

[noble oak]

Then maybe it isn’t old

[crimson scroll]

it doesn't even matter how "old" it is

[noble oak]

But you can run games like GTA

[raw marsh]

You can run GTA on a range of hardware

[crimson scroll]

1080ti came out in 2016 and it still shreds...

[noble oak]

i9 is a good cpu and DDR4

[crimson scroll]

again, it depends

there are a lot of i9 cpus

[noble oak]

So it should be able to run some games

[noble oak]

True

[crimson scroll]

the new generation i9 11900k loses out to the 10900k in a LOT of scenarios

it's embarrassing really

[wary raven]

10000 f

[raw marsh]

hmm

[noble oak]

I prefer AMD cpu

[crimson scroll]

and DDR4 isn't good or bad, it's just a specification

[noble oak]

But I get what I get

[wary raven]

na intel

[crimson scroll]

i would not fanboy over either of them

[noble oak]

Actually yes intel it’s more compatible

[crimson scroll]

compatible with what? lol

[noble oak]

Motherboards

[crimson scroll]

huh?

[noble oak]

It’s more common and more used

[raw marsh]

Yeah not really

[noble oak]

But it needs a specific cpu

[crimson scroll]

each cpu has its own socket that it's compatible with

[noble oak]

Like say a i5 motherboard but you put in a core i3

It won’t work

[crimson scroll]

what

[raw marsh]

eh

[crimson scroll]

that's not true

there's no such thing as an i5 motherboard

[wary raven]

i think im gonna buy a rtx 3090 and inte 19 10000f

[noble oak]

Ik I’m making up numbers

[crimson scroll]

there's b560

[raw marsh]

Yeah you do that

[wary raven]

the razer 1

[noble oak]

b560v

[noble oak]

3090 can run stuff fast

[crimson scroll]

which is commonly used with lower end cpus such as the i3-11000 or 11400f

but you can absolutely use a 11700k on the same motherboard

[wary raven]

ayoo

[crimson scroll]

because they share the same socket

[noble oak]

i3 is like school laptop stuff

[crimson scroll]

and the chipset supports the cpu

incorrect

[wary raven]

its a high end gpu .

[noble oak]

A lot of school laptops use i3

[raw marsh]

Why keep saying this

[crimson scroll]

the 10100f gets really close to the 3600 for way cheaper

[wary raven]

ur mad u mean pentinum

[noble oak]

Pentinum that’s what’s used it in

Not i3

But I mean you get whatever you get in a pc

[raw marsh]

You get whatever you put in a pc

[noble oak]

As long as it’s fast and good you shouldn’t have to worry

[noble oak]

That too

[raw marsh]

'fast and good'

[noble oak]

Yes basically same thing

[crimson scroll]

man, do i have a bridge to sell you

[noble oak]

Not really bridges are a lot of money

[crimson scroll]

it means you're gullible and susceptible to marketing

[noble oak]

Unless your talking sarcasm

[noble oak]

100% agreed

[noble oak]

GTX 950 still works that’s what I have in my Alienware R2

Alpha R2*

But that’s more of an small pc stuff

[toxic dust]

is this good?

Specs:
CPU: Intel Pentium G3220
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Motherboard: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. H81M-K
RAM: 8GBytes DDR3 (Two 4GB sticks)
MEMORY:250gb
psu: 250 watts

im in a budget

[crimson scroll]

define good

but objectively, it's not a very powerful system

[somber musk]

i can run gta V on the low setting on RTX 3090?

[crimson scroll]

...yes

[little wedge]

no

whats ur budget

[stray wyvern]

Is this good?

wait nvm

[craggy sparrow]

No, you need a quadro 8000

[acoustic hemlock]

sjsjsjsjsjsjssj

[gusty palm]

does somebody knows good fans on a budget

[raw marsh]

Arctic P12

[gusty palm]

OMG it's white

[lean quarry]

i have a question, i want to make a system with the corsair X hydro custom loop, and as case i have a Phanteks P500a. But do i need the corsair commander pro for lighting and fan control for the whole loop

[gusty palm]

Idk but of i was you i woumd just buy evertthing or ask it to corsair

[crimson scroll]

i believe you would

[wise oriole]

can you run minecraft on lowest settings with a quatro 8000?

[crimson scroll]

...yes

[raw marsh]

It gets funnier every time someone asks a question like that

[wise oriole]

im just curious

[crimson scroll]

not what i'd call funnier but to each their own

[raw marsh]

That was sarcasm

[static pecan]

Peak comedy

[wise oriole]

agreed

[crimson scroll]

don't do that

[strong bolt]

Is this a good part list for a $1000 dollar budget?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k6Kr8J

im mainly going to be 3d modelling and maybe Minecraft or fortnite things like that

[raw marsh]

You can cut down on the price of the ram, I'd recommend b550 over b450, h510 is ok but I'd also go for something with better airflow.

[strong bolt]

i might get a nzxt n7 mother board(n7 b550)

its more expensive but its a good board

and it looks good

and thats inportant

[raw marsh]

Just make sure you can get the GPU to begin with

[strong bolt]

if i dont get the 3060ti i might go for a 1660 super or 1650 super

its a good pair with my cpu

[crimson scroll]

3600 is overpriced

you could get a 11400f instead

memory is also overpriced like melker said

that ssd is overpriced

h510 has really meh airflow

[strong bolt]

yeah thats why im probably going with the nxzt n7 b550

it looks sick

and i just reallized that the price of the ram is not the original price i saw

it prob got out of stock

and amazon just came with overpriced ram

[crimson scroll]

i mean, if looks is all you care about i guess

at 250 the 3600 is an absolute dumpster fire

you can get a 11600k for that price

[strong bolt]

is that an amd card bc ive never heard of it

o wait

your talking about cpu

not gpu

[crimson scroll]

yes

[strong bolt]

ok ima look it up

[crimson scroll]

you'd have to change the motherboard too but you'd still save money

[strong bolt]

true

i just checked an the price of the cpu is $50 more than it was like 30 mins ago

the 3600 has way better power efficiency but other than that their basically the same

oh and intel has 0.7mhz faster max clock speed

[crimson scroll]

no, the 11400f definitely beats out the 3600

also clock speed means basically nothing

[strong bolt]

true

[crimson scroll]

etc.

[strong bolt]

ok

[crimson scroll]

the trend is that the 11400f beats out the 3600 in gaming

in blender it loses out

so depending on what kind of 3d rendering you're doing and how much of that compared to gaming

the 11400f is also like $70-80 cheaper than the 3600

so

[strong bolt]

but i have an 80hz monitor so it wont make much of a difference when actually gaming

(the fps)

[crimson scroll]

it's still a more updated frame

and cheaper

[strong bolt]

msrp their almost the same

[crimson scroll]

...your pcpp link has the 3600 at 260

the 11400f you can get at 175

but it's your build

go for the 3600 if you want

[strong bolt]

mk

oh and thanks for the feedback

[lean quarry]

i can also depend on what motherboard you want to have and what features you want on it

[noble oak]

thanks for the help i bought it but i have to do cable managment now

[idle bridge]

nice

matching background is good too

tho those lights in the top seem a little bright?

[crimson scroll]

#archive-battlestations post probably

[noble oak]

yea there custom with arduino code but i havent figured a way to turn the brightness down so yea

[idle bridge]

yea

[static pecan]

It's here bois

[tall cove]

Sheeeesh

[raw marsh]

Nice, what are you going to play first?

[static pecan]

Nice and snug lmao. Literally the largest card I could fit in this case with a front mounted rad at 330mm

Probably going to get back into AC Valhalla now that I have a card that'll run at more than 60FPS on high 🤣

My 5700XT was fine but that game really brought it to its knees

[crimson scroll]

nice

triple 8 pin, pretty beefy

[static pecan]

Yeah

Just ran the built in benchmark on AC Valhalla. Peaked at a clock speed of 2447mhz with a peak power draw of 230 watts with a max current temp of 60c and a junction of 75c

Nice 👌

[crimson scroll]

good power draw

[static pecan]

Yeah a lot better than I was kind of expecting haha

[undone hatch]

just re flash my GPU bios and is working again, what a relive

[lean quarry]

when i am playing titanfall 2 and having discord open at the same time my pc blue screens with the message memory management. Does anyone have an idea what the reason is?

i have a
gtx 1050 ti
ryzen 5 3600
8 gb ram 2400 Mhz
2560 x 1440

[fathom kernel]

@lean quarry try a lower res. and u should upgrade ur Ram to 16gb with 3200mhz

[lean quarry]

i am waiting to make a whole new pc

[fathom kernel]

or try a software to lower ur ram usage

[fathom kernel]

ah okay which parts are in ur new Pc do u know ?

[lean quarry]

rtx 3080
ryzen 7 5800x
32 gb or 16 gb ram
nzxt z73 aio

i wanna make a beast of a pc

but i am still waiting for rtx 3080 prices to come down

so i expect it to last another year before i can get a new pc

[analog plover]

no water cooling

[crimson scroll]

?

[analog plover]

it goes kaboom sometimes

[lean quarry]

wot?

https://tenor.com/view/madagscar-penguins-kaboom-gif-9833865

how u mean?

[analog plover]

like

water

all over your pc

kaboom

talking from experience

[crimson scroll]

very anecdotal

[lean quarry]

i have never seen someone complain about that

[crimson scroll]

there are plenty of people who water cool and don't have issues

[lean quarry]

and you do need a good cooler for the 7 5800x

[analog plover]

I would rather not risk it

[lean quarry]

i would for the look

and the cooling performance vs a beefy aircooler

it just looks a lot more clean

[static pecan]

If you're building a custom loop then the risk of leaks is obviously higher, but with an AIO there's almost no chance of that happening

[lean quarry]

i was thinking about a custom loop but it is really expensive

[crimson scroll]

that's up to you obviously

but don't say that like it's bad for everybody

[analog plover]

yeah I personally prefer, forgot the name, windmill cooler, instead of liquid

[crimson scroll]

air cooler

[analog plover]

https://tenor.com/view/wind-windmill-windpower-gif-8273355

[lean quarry]

windmill cooler...... never heard somebody use that name for it

[analog plover]

well now you have

[crimson scroll]

probably not a native english speaker

[lean quarry]

I'm not either

[crimson scroll]

right, and?

[lean quarry]

no nothing

[crimson scroll]

doesn't mean their native language is the same as yours

[lean quarry]

yea your right

[analog plover]

just a question,

how in god's name do I connect my steel series I found laying around?

tried for an hour

[crimson scroll]

your steelseries what

[analog plover]

console thing

[crimson scroll]

that's not very helpful

do you have a specific product name

and what are you trying to connect it to

[analog plover]

looks like a stratus xl and to my pc

[crimson scroll]

it's connected via bluetooth

[analog plover]

wont work

[crimson scroll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#archive-user-support #official-support

[analog plover]

ain't helping

[crimson scroll]

sorry, but this isn't the right place for troubleshooting steelseries products

those are

[analog plover]

how tf should I know which is the connectivity button

[crimson scroll]

a google search might help

[vocal carbon]

i have a weird problem where when I open a minimized window over a full sized one the minimized window is transparent

and I can't screenshot it because its a display problem

hello?

[lament pawn]

Welp its time