So some of the users might be blind if they just shrink it and try to sneak it in
#stardust-crusaders
winged crest
topaz flume
Its pretty hard to be stealthy when jotaros stand can see thought the dark in photos
winged crest
And the power of the stand is grately reduced iirc meaning that if you get spotted ur fucked
wanton anchor
I mean in p3 it can be justified with jotaro having super precise vision. But what about later parts for example.
winged crest
I just answered it
You can't see trough ur stand (unless u can)
But in the situations where they could see trough em, they were already long ranged or automatic
topaz flume
They had to use josephs spirit tv to see
winged crest
Ye
topaz flume
Also they stated you cant
Also when someone shrinks their stand, theyre much weaker and slower
winged crest
If it was Star Plat then they wouldn't need Spirit Tv cuz he can see trough Star plat iirc
winged crest
tru but i think there was a scene somewhere not sure where where Jotaro just had star plat use binoculars and he knew what it saw
might be during N'Doul but i'm not sure
wanton anchor
Ok that kinda explains it.
topaz flume
That mightve been jotaro and star plat
First jot, then plat when he needed better vision
But plat couldve told jotaro what he saw
Since theyre pretty lenient on people not being able to see through stands
wanton anchor
Well actually can't the stand user just increase the stand size once your inside? By doing so it, it does have enough power to shred them to bits and it wouldn't even matter if you can see through your stand. As long as you're inside, you have pracitcally won.
topaz flume
Guess so
winged crest
But plat couldve told jotaro what he saw
that's not how stands work
unless it is
But Star Platinum isn't concious
topaz flume
They dont really go into detail if stands could talk to their user
winged crest
so the only way it can tell him is by him seeing trough it
topaz flume
So probably, or probably not
wanton anchor
So yeah shrinking stands is def one of the concepts that didn't work and got thrown out of the window which is totally understandable.
topaz flume
There arent many times they could use it in p4 and p3 tbh
The enemies constantly threw themselves at the gang
Maybe p5, but not that many useful opportunites
wanton anchor
Yeah like you said. P3 was nearly impossible because of jotaro.
P4 I have to revisit the fights again.
wanton anchor
If we also looked at each fight in p3. It couldn't even work:
The sun is a static stand, death 13 is a dream stand, judgement is an automatic stand, high priestess is one of the cases where shrinking her stand might have worked but since jot was also there it's difficult.
N'douls geb needs water.
Oingo Boingo explains itself
Anubis is a sword
Mariahs stand is static
Alessis stand doesn't even have any form of power
D'arby needs to gamble
And so on
topaz flume
Indeed
wanton anchor
But now I want to look at p4 👀
winged crest
okay but what info is the wiki saying makes them think it's automatic
wanton anchor
Yeah like I said since they defeated judgement, the user wasn't hurt at all until avdol burnt him himself.
winged crest
Did the Lovers transfer damage?
winged crest
Lovers wasn't directly controlled by dan
topaz flume
Oh that
wanton anchor
Lovers transfered damage.
topaz flume
Dont think it was automatic tbh
weary turret
Judgement doesn't seem to be automatic. it even introduces itself as Cameo
and he buries himself nearby to control it secretly
wanton anchor
I mean there are certain conditions that have to be met. He has to fulfill wishes and I believe that it is actually bound to the lamp it came out from 🤷
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winged crest
Cuz stand rules aren't rules
winged crest
I mean there are certain conditions that have to be met. He has to fulfill wishe...
Judgement is not a bound stand
it was hidden in the lamp because "lemme grant u wishes"
weary turret
they do, sometimes
like Strength
but trying to apply rules to stands is a waste of time
wanton anchor
Hmm ok. I guess it wasn't automatic then.
weary turret
normally i say it as a joke but i really think the user is just a nut and does it for no reason other than to be a dick and try to kill polnareff in a funny way to him or some shit
topaz flume
Probably
topaz flume
Nothing better to do ig
weary turret
sure you could say its "to let his guard down" or something but lets be real
wanton anchor
It would make much more sense if it was automatic. But oh well it is what it is. 😂
topaz flume
Or competent
weary turret
its cause hes a crazy assassin
wanton anchor
Yeahhh....
topaz flume
Technically yes
winged crest
And Polnareff fell for the thing hook line and sinker
topaz flume
Did it last long, no
winged crest
Pretty sure people in the show even said a few times Pol was a bit of a dingus
tho he'd be fucked if Avdol wasn't there
wanton anchor
The best polnareff fight if you ask me.
wanton anchor
That shit caught me off guard. It got dark real quick.
topaz flume
The neck snapping was pretty satisfying to me tbh
winged crest
Me next episode realising what's happening
topaz flume
Also when my friend was showing me jojo
winged crest
topaz flume
We stopped midway to p3, then my dumbass accidentally skipped to the dio fight
So i missed this the first time
winged crest
i was showing a friend that fight and you could see how sad he looked when it looked like Pol died
Then he was happy af when Pol was alive
And then he realises Iggy died
And back comes the sad
winged crest
same
all 3 times i saw it
even tho i know what's gonna happen it don't get easier to watch
wanton anchor
It was so well directed in the anime too.
The atmosphere felt so tense throughout.
topaz flume
Im basically the complete opposite tbh
If i know a characters gonna die, imma go into it knowing that and with the mindset to get sad
wanton anchor
Oof yeah that happens to me all the time when I actually get spoiled
Luckily I rarely got spoiled
topaz flume
Lucky
winged crest
Like i knew Kakyoin was gonna die
I'm like at the start aw shit he's cool
but i'm ready for it
Gets to the episode
Only realises he's about to die when DIO shouts Za Warudooo!
topaz flume
Bruh
Luckily, kaks death wasnt spoiled for me
But since i skipped to the episode by accident, it caught me off guard
split stone
Wait does hermit purple have electricity
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split stone
Because the vines on hermit purple had some kind of electricity that destroyed the flesh buds in his head
bright remnant
Thats hammon I believe
And
That thing in their heads was a thing dio put in them
bright remnant
Did u watch part 1 or 2
split stone
Why would I?
split stone
Ohhh so that’s basically like another name for his stand
bright remnant
You really didnt watch part one or two
split stone
It’s boring 🙄
bright remnant
Ur joking
split stone
It’s short anyways
bright remnant
Do you know who Jonathan is
split stone
Wasn’t that Dio’s name before he became a vampire?
Because Joseph mentioned Dio taking over Johnathan’s body
bright remnant
Go watch prt 1
ruby lintel
big if true
split stone
He lost it in a battle or something that’s what he mentioned
bright remnant
😐
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split stone
I highly doubt artificial hands like that existed in the 1980’s
ruby lintel
he got it from the nazis
split stone
yea
makes sense
I wish I could’ve seen more of Joseph
@bright remnant whât is Part 2 even about
bright remnant
Defeating Egyptian gods
past sail
what does egypt have to do with anything in part 2
split stone
Isn’t that what stardust crusaders is about tho?
Defeating Egyptian gods
Also when did Dio get bit by a vampire
split stone
How did he become a vampire then
past sail
if you want to know stuff so badly you could watch part 1 and 2
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scarlet lodge
sorry to interrupt, but Vanilla Ice's thighs, tho
past sail
you say that yet you dont know how dio became a vampire so you havent even watched 3 episodes of part 1
split stone
Who is Dio?
past sail
you can skip parts if you want but dont claim theyre boring if you havent watched them
thorny sigil
<@!759418949779062824> whât is Part 2 even about
helping the nazis
split stone
Ok time to watch part 2
thorny sigil
wait you’re not trolling
past sail
is this a joke
urban sun
yeah
past sail
ok
bronze dune
rip for part skippers lmao, part 1 was hella nice
merry cargo
why isnt ceasar in part 3?
he got a concussion
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past sail
they skipped the first 2 parts Im pretty sure
scarlet garden
we know who the part skipper is
past sail
so they just dont know anything
winged crest
Aha
obsidian stag
Ah yes part skippers
scarlet garden
well i mean...
winged crest
No
winged crest
This is why you watch it in order
spice coyote
Part 3 literally tells you what happened lol
obsidian stag
The manga perhaps
winged crest
Some people can't grasp it
obsidian stag
The anime doesn't full go detail on prior events in pt1
spice coyote
What can’t be grasped about it
winged crest
Somebody asked was Jonathan, DIO's human name before he became a vampire
obsidian stag
All Dio really says is that this body of Jonathan continues to reject me or something along those lines
spice coyote
Well that doesn’t count because that’s straight up not paying attention to what Joseph explains lol
Part 3 gives you enough context to understand the events prior. It’s better to watch it in order though
winged crest
It counts
quick mural
Joseph literally explained it in the first goddamn episode.
obsidian stag
Oh yeah that ep at the start
winged crest
As JoJo fans tend to do
quick mural
And proceed to make an "araki forgot" meme
quick mural
Why didn't Jonathan use pluck to slice D'arby's neck 😨😨😨😱😱😱😨😱😨😨😱 araki forgot!!1!!!!
winged crest
That meme unironically needs to be burned
quick mural
I agree
obsidian stag
^
winged crest
One of the reasons I wasn't gonna watch JoJo was cuz my friend told me some of those....
Tho tbf he got fed that bs by a YouTube video or something
Probably fucking shuckmister lmao
quick mural
Shuck?
winged crest
I'm assuming yes
quick mural
99% it would be them.
obsidian stag
WhY dIdN't JoSePh TeAcH tHe CrUsAdErS hAmOn
winged crest
That one time somebody kept saying hamon could enhance stands
quick mural
Why did joseph age!1!1!!1?!
spice coyote
Because the plot says Hamon is useless now
obsidian stag
jOtArO sHoUlD bE aBlE tO uSe HaMoN
winged crest
Could have had Joseph plough trough some normal vampires or zombies for coolness
quick mural
WhY dIdnT KakYoin uSe hIs miNd CobTrol AbilIities???2!2?2??3?2!?44!?4!4!?
winged crest
I find that one funny, cuz he did
scarlet garden
if only they had learned the thunder cross split attack
obsidian stag
wHy DiDn'T jOtArO jUsT uSe StAr FiNgEr AgAiN
winged crest
I find that one funny, cuz he did
Somebody just fell asleep during death 13
spice coyote
The funny thing about thunder cross split attack is that it literally doesn’t work lol
winged crest
Attempted twice
spice coyote
But Araki went with it anyways and it’s been immortalized as a meme
quick mural
Somebody just fell asleep during death 13
Didn't he also do that on steely dan arc? Or was he just inside his ear.
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winged crest
Countered twice
winged crest
Didn't he also do that on steely dan arc? Or was he just inside his ear.
Er can't remember, don't think so
winged crest
No
obsidian stag
No
winged crest
Because injured
quick mural
No
quick mural
^
spice coyote
||it threw polpol like 30 feet away in part 5 without any legs and no hand||
winged crest
It wasn't injured there cuz it wasn't in a fight
obsidian stag
He wasn't servery injured then tho like not bleeding out or shit
winged crest
It had bits missing
But it didn't just spend 5 minutes getting chunks blown out of it
spice coyote
Silver chariot was doing acrobatics in the vanilla ice fight injury doesn’t mean anything lol
obsidian stag
Also stands are able to move thier users and have enough strength to pull them
spice coyote
Polnareff couldn’t move but SC was doing backflips and shit, it still had strength
winged crest
Not enough to carry a grown ass man
obsidian stag
||Take Okuyasu and Jouske for example||
spice coyote
||yet it basically did in part 5 but with a wheelchair included||
winged crest
It wasn't injured
obsidian stag
Again he wasn't bleeding out and wasn't missing bits of his legs
winged crest
It wasn't in a fight before that throw
spice coyote
||it was missing 2 legs||
obsidian stag
He wasn't tired either
obsidian stag
||it was missing 2 legs||
They were replaced tho
spice coyote
||that alone should stop you from being able to stand but no that doesn’t matter because it’s a stand||
With stumps lol
Why? Because it floats
winged crest
He didn't spend fucking 5 (?) Minutes getting hit again and again
In that fight
Unlike VI
He was rested and ready for combat
/throwing people
spice coyote
Stands align with user energy or something like that. SC was doing cartwheels and shit even when it had a part of its thigh shredded. It could definitely carry him.
winged crest
It couldn't
spice coyote
Sorry dawg I refuse to accept this Olympic jumper stand can’t carry a grown ass man
obsidian stag
Ok let's take, a injured Pol who is literally missing fingers a top part of his foot a piece of his thigh and probably has a lot of broken bones and is bleeding out and take that SC, and compare it with a Pol who wasn't injured or bleeding out and didn't have broken bones, had missing parts replaced and wasn't tired af and that SC
Who has more strength?
winged crest
It can't carry a grown ass man if it's been fighting a black hole for a long ass time
Exactly
winged crest
Ok let's take, a injured Pol who is literally missing fingers a top part of his ...
This
obsidian stag
He literally had up Pol at the start it's obvious SC could have had enough power to move him if Pol wasn't so goddanm injured
winged crest
If you aren't bleeding out and tired you obviously neither is ur stand
obsidian stag
*held
spice coyote
If SC was affected by the injuries it literally wouldn’t be able to do flips with a piece of its thigh removed.
Yeah Polnareff was tired as shit but he was still able to muster up the ability to destroy V.I with SC at the end, full stab barrage and all.
Sorry man I don’t see why it can’t at least drag him lol.
It just grabs his fingers and he twitches slightly, okay?
obsidian stag
That's like saying SP could of clearly had enough strength to move Jotaro in pt 4 ||After SH Seriously fucked him up||
winged crest
Tried dragging him, couldn't move him almost got his hand devoured for it
spice coyote
||that ain’t even the same one of them is an explosion||
winged crest
How is it not the same
obsidian stag
But Pol is severely injured and is blessed out
winged crest
Jotaro was injured to shit
obsidian stag
So is Jotaro in that situation
winged crest
And severely bleeding out
spice coyote
You see Erik.
||The explosion sent him unconscious and filled with holes, along with burn injuries.||
The black hole took Pol’s thighs, feet and fingers.
This isn’t going anywhere so I’ll leave it at I’m not convinced SC couldn’t have carried him 🤷♂️
obsidian stag
That's like saying oh yeah iggy was severely injured too and was still able to use The Fool to save Pol, why didn't he use his stand to pull him??
winged crest
Iggy uses Fool, dies
obsidian stag
You do you dude
bright remnant
what does egypt have to do with anything in part 2
I thought they were Egyptian gods
past sail
well they arent lol
wintry rampart
Aztec gods
bright remnant
Iggy death was more emotional in the ova
wintry rampart
true
wintry rampart
newer part 3?
I mean uh, the content of the anime is technically older than the OVA
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bright remnant
I mean like
Now a days part 3
The newer looking one
I dont know the release dates dheccyfvgygdgse
wintry rampart
I think the Part 3 anime suffered by not being quiet in some places
While the OVA had these dramatic pauses of silence that made scenes really tense the anime always had some music playing
As an example: DIO's first Time Stop with Kakoin
100%
big agree
In the anime obviously they swapped how it happened but when it goes to DIO's point of view they had the music and SFX while the OVA was silent
yeah yeah
It makes it feel much more important
Especially if they went silent after BBBBTTTTTTTTTTTUUUZZ
the sound direction is lacking a lot of the time imo
but it was big in DIO's World
The sound design is okay
Koyama can do two things
He can be really high-toned like Fire Force or really low-toned like Youjo Senki
Basically bass vs. treble
Part 3 and early Part 4 were neither
They lacked the sharpness of his higher-toned effects and the deep kicks of his bassy hits
Late Part 4 and especially Part 5 did really good with this and let him do what he wanted
Moving to #jojo-overall-discussion
nocturne oasis
I read somewhere that DIO might have a fear of water
Which would make sense tbf
Since he was trapped underwater for 100 years, not able to move and stuff
Thats probably why he moved to Egypt ,which is relatively dry
Jotaro was actually talking about water,
"Like a guy that could hold his breath for a minute underwater,"
Which the same guy theorized to be Jotaro playing with DIO's mind to get him to snap
And how that might've been the reason that he attacked with his weak side
Not thinking about where he'd attack with
winged crest
Interesting theory
DIO should have attacked with his stand and attacked Jotaro directly while TW was attacking SP
In the last scene
Probably still wouldn't help, but it'd make his chances better
pure creek
Dio could have killed JoJo easily, but instead he decided to fool around
nocturne oasis
He wasted all his oppurtunities to fuck with him instead of killing him
pure creek
yep
nocturne oasis
If DIO had taken Jotaro seriously from the start, he would've won
pure creek
ye
pure creek
yup
obsidian stag
Dio is a toddler
winged crest
He wasn't even messing with him that much
obsidian stag
He likes to play with his food
winged crest
He panicked when Jotaro moved in ts
Cuz he thought he was in danger
Then he was making sure Jotaro can't move
Was about kill him and then got donuted
Then he wasn't coming near Jotaro to avoid getting his ass beat
nocturne oasis
DIO was actually adapting to Jotaro throughout the fight, come to think of it
But again, if he'd done to Jotaro what he did to Kakyoin ,he'd have won before Jotaro even said "DIO"
He probably wanted to have some fun before killing him, since he's a Joestar and all
winged crest
I mean before he knew he can stop time
He has nothing to fear
Cuz his ability is the strongest in the world
nocturne oasis
He definitely shouldn't have played with Jotaro the way he did ,tho
Polnareff defeated the one person DIO held closest to him ,and was arguably ,the closest person to the power he had at the time before ,excluding Jotaro, of course
And Polnareff surely cant defeat a serious Jotaro
Especially a serious Jotaro that had his closest friend and grandpa killed
winged crest
Tru but to DIO's knowledge Jotaro can't protect himself from DIO's ts
weary turret
for what it's worth, in Over Heaven, dio notes that running water is a traditional weakness of vampires
and though it's untrue, he was still defeated by jonathan at sea
weary turret
yes, they can't cross it at all
red raptor
Boiling hot holy water shall compel the vampires of the night.
With an extra hint of garlic at the side
winged crest
2 weeks
red raptor
I was on and off with this one. Took multiple breaks cuz of life reasons.
wintry rampart
Is it the sound?
winged crest
ah
wintry rampart
part 3 took me 20 days to finish and compared to part 4 that took me 7 days to finish 👀
wintry rampart
i took a few weeks to finish the first half of sdc but binged the second half in a few days
swift fox
robust linden
God dammit
Fuck Crunchyroll for making Jotaro look an ass and presumably insult his mother. He never does that in the manga and accurately translated anime subs
HOLY SHIT, his originally translated dialogue is so nice and adorable than the trash Crunchyroll did. When Holly kisses him, Jotaro says some bullshit like "ughh you bitch" in the CR subs of the anime when in the manga he's like: "I'm not a kid anymore!"
I fucking love Jotaro wtf
wintry rampart
Where are you basing the manga comments off of
winged crest
HOLY SHIT, his originally translated dialogue is so nice and adorable than the t...
Wait! I think I remember that from the manga!
robust linden
Yes
wintry rampart
because they also translate the initial jail scene as bitch
vale flower
i have to read sdc with accurate translations
wintry rampart
so... idk
vale flower
because all i remember is "bitch"
winged crest
@robust linden congratulations you made me like Jotaro more then I already did, I didn't think it was possible but you did xD
winged crest
Of to the "important shit" folder this goes!
wintry rampart
Colored
VIZ
I feel like this is another case of the JoJo Colored team being absolute garbage at translating
robust linden
Doing gods work Contempt
It is actual fact that Jotaro doesn't actively call Holly a bitch in good translations
You love to see it
wintry rampart
God only works through the elect >:p
wintry rampart
I feel like this is another case of the JoJo Colored team being absolute garbage...
colored team only ever translated 5
Good Lord that's bad
that black and white page has the earliest english translation
its done by the 1+2 dudes
scarlet lodge
Don't ask why i'm saying this, but i bet Cream can eat 1000 burgers in one bite
wintry rampart
he definitely can
pastel cairn
cream likes to eat toes
pastel cairn
what dog toes
weary turret
a lot of the nuances of what jotaro says are sort of lost in translation
jotaro is not very polite but not really as bad as a lot of people seem to think he is
wintry rampart
You cant really translate Japanese tone perfectly
weary turret
sure, same goes for any language
because they use different words that mean different things
we can get pretty close though. people just gotta understand that the subtitles job is to convey the meaning of the spoken words, through literal translations or otherwise
wintry rampart
I feel like a literal translation is important, but at the same time "localization" doesn't harm anything if its lite
localization can often lend itself to things coming across completely different
weary turret
well... there's no real "right answer" 
and you could do either one very well or very poorly
wintry rampart
I feel if you abandoned all attempts to be literal you basically have someone putting whatever they want there
robust linden
Colored was the wrong translation lmao
timid hornet
how does DIO breathe in stopped time
topaz flume
Pretty sure he doesnt need oxygen
Unless he does
Then its the same reason the knives he throws continue to move for a second after being thrown
sinful skiff
how does DIO breathe in stopped time
how is dio 121 years old and still that strong?
timid hornet
how does Jotaro breathe in stopped time
timid hornet
how is dio 121 years old and still that strong?
vampirism
topaz flume
Then its the same reason the knives he throws continue to move for a second afte...
Bruh
timid hornet
imagine jjba with Tenet level writing
winged crest
how does DIO breathe in stopped time
You can breath in stopped time
winged crest
Tenet... sounds familiar
timid hornet
You can breath in stopped time
which doesn't make much sense
winged crest
What movie is that
wintry rampart
just another fake deep Nolan flick
timid hornet
do you have any good arguments or are you just shitting on it
timid hornet
then stop citicizing it?
wintry rampart
Nope
robust linden
which doesn't make much sense
No? Air exists on Earth lmao
timid hornet
No? Air exists on Earth lmao
objects don't move in stopped time so neither should air flow
winged crest
which doesn't make much sense
Ofc it does, things you are "in contact" with can move, like how the knives move for a bit till they stop, so why should they not be able to inhale oxygen
robust linden
objects don't move in stopped time so neither should air flow
What Erik said
timid laurel
things you interact with move dont they
timid hornet
you're directly in contant with only a thin layer of air
timid hornet
by that logic the earth should move since you're stepping on it
robust linden
🗿
timid hornet
almost as if it was fictional huh
winged crest
Fictional but it makes sense
robust linden
^
winged crest
Unless you don't pay attention/think
timid hornet
bruh
robust linden
I can't believe we've reached a point in Jojo where there's nitpicks on how people breathe air.
That is something straight out of a meme
timid laurel
just another fake deep Nolan flick
christopher nolan movies :uagh:
wintry rampart
Well they think Jojo should be written like a crappy action movie so
winged crest
I can't believe we've reached a point in Jojo where there's nitpicks on how peop...
We've been at this point for quite a while
robust linden
winged crest
I've had this conversation quite a lot of times
timid hornet
I must be a rapist cause I don't remember asking
winged crest
Brb
timid laurel
ive barely interacted with jojo fans so i have no clue how far gone the community is
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robust linden
timid hornet
lmao
visual whale
dull wind
lol
torn pike
half grove
jotaros theme stuck in head help
half grove
ik overdrive already
bright remnant
Overdrive is a bop
topaz flume
Ofc it does, things you are "in contact" with can move, like how the knives move...
That's literally what i said lol
topaz flume
Probably not
Either that or just brushed it off as bullshit
Since half of what i say is shitpost
bright remnant
I wish Alessi fought joseph instead....
And the stand affects didnt disappear when he won :((
robust linden
No lol
Forcing Part 3 Joseph to be Part 2 Joseph for the rest of the part is dumb and cheap fanservice
It'd completely ruin Polnareff as a character
past sail
yep
rich stratus
k
past sail
why would araki throw away joseph's development between part 2 and 3 for fanservice
amber hound
past sail
then what is even the point lol
past sail
ok then
bright remnant
worn lava
I’m still annoyed that the crusaders invited Polnareff, a complete stranger, to eat with them, and he repays them by trying to kill them immediately after they start eating
near starBOT
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worn lava
So uncivilized
weary turret
to be fair! he did have a mass of vampire cells stuck in his brain
wintry rampart
best
winged crest
Joseph still looks hot as an old man
willow musk
Should Kakyoin have lived?
winged crest
Without him dying they wouldn't figure out DIO's World
robust linden
Not at all. As sad as his death was, Kakyion's death served a purpose
winged crest
no way for him to live unfortunatly
wintry rampart
Yeah, Kakyoin dying gave Jotaro the necessary awareness
Otherwise he would have needed DIO to fluke his first time stop
Cuz people meme about DIO "toying around" that arc, but he wasnt
winged crest
Ikr
People: DIO was messing around he should have just gone for the kill
DIO: literally trying his hardest excluding the fact he didn't try to use the stingy eyes
Had one chance to kill Jotaro, that chance was interrupted by DIO being shocked that Jotaro moved in stopped time
the 2nd time people say "he could have killed him" was when DIO got donuted
wintry rampart
Stingy eyes would be worthless against Star Platinum
The only argument ive ever heard for them that was convincing was "imagine if he shot them after throwing the knives too"
And another time when a close friend of mine insisted he should have annihilated Polnareff with them when he jumped in
THAT was Dio toying with Pol though
Because Pol is free to toy with unfortunately
winged crest
He could make Jotaro use up his time stop by shooting Stingy eyes
and then while Jotaro can't stop it again for a second or 2 go in and attack
spiral bolt
if mannish boy is supposed to be super smart why did he decide to attack the crusaders in the middle of a desert where he would inevitably die if he actually succeeded
winged crest
probably cuz he had an escape plan
neon sparrow
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sephrioth
wintry rampart
People: DIO was messing around he should have just gone for the kill
He don’t us it because he isn’t a full vamp
wintry rampart
if mannish boy is supposed to be super smart why did he decide to attack the cru...
That’s why his head is so big
wintry rampart
Yea
winged crest
still doesn't use it
spiral bolt
he can stop time
near starBOT
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wintry rampart
To busy tearing chunks off his on body to know
winged crest
mhm
sure sure
If he stopped thinking tactically
He wouldn't have grabbed the road roller
wintry rampart
Or beating up Jotaro
winged crest
Because he stopped getting close to Jotaro because he doesn't know when Jotaro would retaliate with a punch that could cause serious injury
Like when Star Platinum blew threw The World's chest
So if he wants to make sure Jotaro cannot win he should add stingy eyes to the mix
wintry rampart
U think dio’s butt is flat
winged crest
huh?
dire gate
U think dio’s butt is flat
ancient kettle
dio is caked up
worn lava
DIO did lost because he didn’t try initially
worn lava
Yeah but that’s not what I mean
He wanted the joestars dead because they’re the one thing he was afraid of right
winged crest
Yea?
worn lava
Why did he play stand speed games with Jotaro instead of donutting him
That’s what I mean by initially
wintry rampart
dio is caked up
People in the fanworks server say that he donsnt have a big butt
worn lava
“Oh you’re approaching me?”
“I can’t beat the shit out of you without getting any closer”
Cue Za Warudo and Donut
Then again Dio is way too cocky for that isn’t he
winged crest
why would he take Jotaro seriously initially
Jotaro is no threat
It's not like he can stop time or anything
worn lava
Why would he take Kakyoin seriously
winged crest
as far as DIO knows
worn lava
What are the emeralds gonna do, puncture him?
winged crest
Yes
worn lava
He can easily heal can’t he
winged crest
And then he needs to expend energy to heal
According to Straizo's explenations
If you don't have enough energy your wounds heal slowly
That's why his body regenerated relativly quickly
But his legs just slowed down
winged crest
Yes because he ate somebody right after
Remember he needed to eat a crap tone of people to heal the wounds from the fire
worn lava
Oh, Right
wintry rampart
Why did he play stand speed games with Jotaro instead of donutting him
@worn lava you say this like he didnt stop time and then try to
worn lava
That was later
wintry rampart
It was literally the first time stop he did vs Jotaro
And then he saw his fingers twitch
wintry rampart
See this is why I dont understand the meme
He didnt fool around inside a time stop
winged crest
maybe when people say fool around in time stop they mean his monologues
but those don't even take that long in universe soooo
worn lava
Ultimately, Dio’s downfall was his inability to take a high schooler seriously before they proved they were a threat
Which makes sense
worn lava
It might just be me but I saw it as things getting exponentially worse for DIO as the battle went on
worn lava
Is it remotely accurate
wintry rampart
Currently reading p3. Funny how india is portrayed haha
lmao true
wanton anchor
Tho to be fair araki actually went there and made sure to be as close as possible. Many indians I know say it is fairly accurate. Except the pig toilet thingy 😂
wintry rampart
"pig is hungry"
wanton anchor
Yeah lol
But araki said that he met very nice people there and appreciated the culture which he would describe in great detail in the manga.
wintry rampart
It might just be me but I saw it as things getting exponentially worse for DIO as the battle went on
@worn lava DIO never stood a chance
wanton anchor
worn lava
Why black and white?
wanton anchor
Because it look good
worn lava
Ok
wintry rampart
is there colored?
weary turret
i like how despite the group's first impressions, abdul still loves the country and thinks its a wonderful place
love that dude
winged crest
I like how Jotaro didn't call his mom a bitch in the manga
wanton anchor
Yep
winged crest
That is pog
wintry rampart
true jotaro also loves the country
winged crest
Also yes there is coloured
wintry rampart
Also yes there is coloured
thanks im about to read part 6
winged crest
This. This is adorable
weary turret
i love them. theyre funny
wintry rampart
part 3 artstyle is the best
wanton anchor
I really like it.
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wanton anchor
I think it's the peak of arakis muscular artstyle.
worn lava
Yep
round python
part 3 artstyle is the best
part 16better if you take a closer look
wintry rampart
part 16better if you take a closer look
oh pls eren season 4 artstyle cmon
round python
oh pls eren season 4 artstyle cmon
death of ma izn
wintry rampart
death of ma izn
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You just leveled up to level 23
Keep talking to reach higher levels!
topaz flume
Bruh
round python
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inland oracle
death of ma izn
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half grove
why is the star dust crusading
worn lava
They’re called crusaders because they’re saving Holy right
wanton turret
I think they're called crusaders simply because they're travelling far
And in a mission
I think
topaz flume
Probably
wide current
They're on a crusade to kill DIO and his followers
wide current
Yes
minor geyser
such a bi-
wintry rampart
Someone Coming to the vc
left gate
worn lava
How useful would Kakyoin have been for the Egypt arc
He’d have no trouble with Mariah
He had his stand his whole life so Alessi wouldn’t be too hard
Anubis would probably have an especially hard time adapting to a machine gun but that isn’t the main problem facing anubis
wintry rampart
Polnareff also had his stand his whole life and it didnt make the situation much easier
worn lava
But is silver chariot a machine gun
worn lava
He just didn’t use it
wintry rampart
🤷♂️
worn lava
Mariah uses every chance she can get to flex on them
It shouldn’t be that hard to hit her
wintry rampart
Maybe it is
worn lava
I guess
wintry rampart
Especially when it came down to having too much stuff attached to them
worn lava
But that’s what shooting all over the place does well
wintry rampart
Sure
But any of these what ifs require the villains to directly involve Kakyoin
Since they seem to choose the scenario
nocturne roost
Why do Jotaro’s belts look identical to Caesar’s headband
Also why does Jotaro wear two belts
winged crest
Coincidence
And fashion
wind arrow
why does everyone say part 3 is bad
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topaz flume
Because they say jotaro is too edgy
lucid geyser
part 3 is probably the most episodic part, which is something not everyone likes
ancient kettle
there were only a few arcs that i genuinely enjoyed from part 3
gambler darby stands out
wintry rampart
i enjoyed part 3, i was just too slow at watching it due to the amount of episodes and every episode being the same
besides the divine 9 god stand users and the DIO stuff, everything was just the same
ancient kettle
lovers is the only arc pre-egypt that i really liked
wintry rampart
lovers is the only arc pre-egypt that i really liked
d'arby's beatdown was satisfying af
WAIT
NOT DABY
ancient kettle
dan
ancient kettle
plus the infamous jotaro bridge
wintry rampart
the unstoppable jotaro bridge
at that episode i could feel jotaro's anger towards steely dan
topaz flume
P3 cool
ancient kettle
all parts cool, 3s just one of the weaker ones imo
wintry rampart
all parts cool, 3s just one of the weaker ones imo
exactly how to describe it
i also just recently found out stand proud has english parts what
wintry rampart
People be like "part 3 is weak" and then proceed to watch every following part that is made up of the exact formula for the most part
🤷
bright remnant
does any of you know a reliable source to read stardust crusaders?
Mangadex
Im reading p6 on it
winged crest
People be like "part 3 is weak" and then proceed to watch every following part t...
ey somebody else noticed
nocturne roost
why does everyone say part 3 is bad
People say part 3 is bad?
But... that’s literally the part in the series where stands get introduced
People who say part 3 is bad probably eat stale bread
urban sun
i dont eat stale bread
i think part 3 is less than good
but not bad
its a little boring to me
nocturne roost
Not convinced
urban sun
lol
nocturne roost
lmao
urban sun
nocturne roost
oh hey the mods are coming
urban sun
hide
wintry rampart
ey somebody else noticed
I just think its contrarianism tbh
winged crest
Ah
worn lava
Death 13 is so cool
bright remnant
Isnt one of the requirements to have a stand
Is you have to have a will to live?
Or like
bleak belfry
more like a will to fight
bright remnant
Determination
bleak belfry
if you have a fighting spirit you might be eligible for a stand
bright remnant
Yeah
robust linden
Essentially you just need the resolve for one
bright remnant
Isnt lt like a fate based thing as well
bleak belfry
the weaker your fighting spirit, the weaker your stand, like a certain stand in part 4 that evolves
bright remnant
Doesnt fate play a role in this as well?
bright remnant
Like
People say Caesar should of had HP like Joseph
Well
Didnt he except his death and gave up
So maybe
bleak belfry
why would caesar have a stand
bright remnant
Hamon
bleak belfry
hamon users have vine stands, but that doesnt mean every hamon user has a stand
it just means that if you are a hamon user and can use stands, you probably have a hamon based stand like hermit purple and the passion
bright remnant
Well true
bleak belfry
and if caesar could use a stand, we probably would have seen it
bright remnant
But the question still gets asked on why he didnt
bleak belfry
why he didnt? araki didnt think of stands yet
bright remnant
I heard P2 was filler so that Araki could introduce us to someone to mentor jotaro
weary turret
sort of
BT was just written to be "the part before dio comes back"
joseph's return was a later decision
bright remnant
Honestly
If we got 2 parts where dio was the villain in a row
I prob would of dipped
lucid geyser
@bright remnant yo what's the theory u were talking about
bright remnant
I think it was his stand Hermit Purple that pulled the gem infront of kars
In later parts
I feel this goes for joseph as well
Like in P3 jotaro puts a gun to his head and pulls the trigger
winged crest
Is you have to have a will to live?
Fighting spirit
bright remnant
I think Hermit purple pulled the stone in front of kars
Like how stands come out sometimes due to the fear they might die but they want to keep going
And its not like Joseph to just give up and die
Like with Wamuu when they first met
He took a divine stand storm
And his plan was to trick Wamuu into giving him a chance to return and defeat him
Even at the point where they could just easily kill joseph
He wanted to keep going
So
winged crest
Hermit Purple made Joseph's hand move is the exact theory
Not that it held the stone
bright remnant
I dont think he excepted defeat with kars
bright remnant
Its prob one of my favorite things to reflect on about jojo tbh
Plus
Araki said
If the P3 crew went back in time to P2
They would see hermit purple wrapped around joseph
bright remnant
Which would also mean
He wasn’t as smart as what he seemed...
He couldn’t actually predict peoples next words
Just read their minds
Maybe it didnt come out till his fight with Kars
Who knows
winged crest
Even of Hermit Purple was the cause of the Red Stone scene
It was not the cause of the predicting the next line
I know this fir certain because Esidisi did that trick to Joseph
bright remnant
True
But its said that HP can read minds
Maybe he forgot that Esidisi cant use hamon
😛
But if Hp can read minds
It wouldnt mean he is as smart as they put him to be
And if he used it
winged crest
Hermit Purple can only read minds or rather project thoughts if he's using a tv screen
bright remnant
Well then what was the point of the blind guy killing himself
They had no way to do that
bright remnant
But then his stand is still able to be used
winged crest
Not if they don't have any water near him
Wait actually
I can't remember if the stand possesses water or it is just a stand made of water
bright remnant
Maybe possesses because it came out of the canister
But still
Couldn’t he have it follow them
Or is there a range that he can use it
Like if he gets to far away can he still control the water
winged crest
I think the water would have evaporated by the time they got back to a town
I think
I could be wrong
bright remnant
Well
It could sink into the sand
But it would have to be so deep that the heat didn’t evaporate
Also
It would have evaporated in the sun while he was using it
Or maybe it had some rule that overrides this
grizzled linden
Shrug, ive seen better
topaz flume
Ok
wintry rampart
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low leaf
I just realized Dio being in part 3 is a spoiler for people who haven't seen part 3 yet
although he's basically a meme
and one of the most popular/recognizable jojo characters
(talking about DIO not Dio)
bleak belfry
i thought someone hacked my account for a sec lmao
low leaf
wtf lmao