stardust-crusaders

[obsidian stag]

I don't have a problem with Pol tbh he was more of a protagonist than Jotaro

[wintry rampart]

hes so funny

[bleak belfry]

jotaro was an interesting character, my main gripe is that none of the characters actually learned new things

or grew

jotaro didnt really change, i wish he was more like the pt 4 jotaro towards the end of pt 3

very closed off, but can still show his appreciation

[obsidian stag]

Pt3 Jotaro (Anime) is my least favorite character

[bleak belfry]

its way more subtle in pt 3 but not done well

[wintry rampart]

bruh i started to watch p4 recently

[obsidian stag]

Manga Jotaro was better

[bleak belfry]

and what sucks is that hes the poster boy for jojo when there are much better jojos

[dull wind]

pt 3 joot is okay

[wintry rampart]

i thought jojo still the protagonist that im always finding him

i forgot its josuke

[wanton turret]

For one I don't exactly like how it looks so shiny. Like, there's an insane amount of highlights on their character models. Which, don't get me wrong, it looks good, but the fact that there's barely any variety in normal scenes for their models just makes it feel like they just didn't try to make them face in other directions

[dull wind]

wdym by manga jotaro

[worn lava]

Reminder alessi is an a certified idiot

[wintry rampart]

yup

[obsidian stag]

Like that scene where Jotaro was like worried for Kakyoin when he got his his eyes hurt was replaced with Avdol

[worn lava]

Did he always have the axe?

[wanton turret]

Also the fact that it's like, absolutely stretched out is crazy too but it somewhat added slightly more(albeit, useless) screentime for some other battles

[obsidian stag]

Manga Pt3 Jotaro

[dull wind]

what?

[worn lava]

Why didn’t he use it earlier

[wintry rampart]

he gets it after using his stand i think

[dull wind]

is there a difference

[obsidian stag]

Have you read the manga?

[wintry rampart]

that's how it works in hftf anyways

[obsidian stag]

Jotaro shows more emotion and shit in the Manga then the anime

[wintry rampart]

but that's a game so

[wanton turret]

I just don't like how it was adapted, they definitely could have done more for it in terms of actual "animation"

[dull wind]

no

[worn lava]

It’s an axe though, not a stando

[obsidian stag]

Ah I see

Read it and you'll understand

[dull wind]

will i tho

[wanton turret]

There's a reason why you barely see jojo in any sakuga vids, because even their hypest moments aren't given a level of animation that's super good and worthy for it

[wintry rampart]

maybe it's a stando axe

[worn lava]

Wouldn’t that be two

[wintry rampart]

then again might just be alessi being an idiot

[bleak belfry]

thats a fair argument. what art style from the parts do you think fits best with the manga?

[dull wind]

but dont they post naruto vids

[wintry rampart]

There's a reason why you barely see jojo in any sakuga vids, because even their hypest moments aren't given a level of animation that's super good and worthy for it
@wanton turret yeah DP is very much an entry level studio

[worn lava]

Is Set top 5 strongest stands in part 3 for combat

[wanton turret]

The later parts definitely since they look more human so being able to study and learn how a human moves is easier

[wintry rampart]

i think it's a the hand case where it's one of the most op stands in their part but it's used by a dumbass

[obsidian stag]

There's a vid of a person ranking stands and somehow Hermit Purple>>>>>Hanged Man

[wintry rampart]

what

[worn lava]

Bruh

[wanton turret]

That's why I'll always praise the OVA because they capture what it means to make an image into something that moves

[obsidian stag]

It's on YT the list is bs

[wintry rampart]

joesph uses hermit purple offensively like four times iirc

[worn lava]

Hanged Man is basically invulnerable right

[bleak belfry]

i hate when anime is just a still image with some special effects, sdc is mostly this with a bit of movement. ova honestly has more preferable animation

[obsidian stag]

Like a certain op af stand in pt5 was Ranked lower than a stand that doesn't even fight in pt8

[bleak belfry]

despite it being lower image quality

[obsidian stag]

Ova was actually good ngl I loved it

[wintry rampart]

one of the only things i find bad about the OVA is the sound design

[wanton turret]

It's only a lower image quality due to the image processing power at the time, so that's somewhat negligible

[wintry rampart]

the sound design was just not good

[bleak belfry]

the sound design is a huge turn off

[obsidian stag]

True

[wintry rampart]

that's one thing dp is really good at- sound design

[bleak belfry]

i wonder if there are any fandubs of the ova

[worn lava]

Does hanged man have any real weaknesses if the enemy isn’t faster than light

[winged crest]

It's user

[worn lava]

And that’s it?

[winged crest]

And staying the fuck away from any reflections

[obsidian stag]

The user tbh

[winged crest]

No shit that's it you can't touch it otherwise

Find and kill the user

Or die

That's it

No alternative

[obsidian stag]

Unless you move faster than the speed of light

[worn lava]

I mentioned that

[obsidian stag]

Or have a stand that does

[winged crest]

Yea the question was except speed of light

[wanton turret]

If you can somehow trap it within the reflective surface it's currently in, for example a shard of glass, you've pretty much won

[obsidian stag]

Oh

[winged crest]

Yea except you die trying that

[obsidian stag]

Like just get in glass cover it in duct tape

[winged crest]

Because as long as ur in the reflection it can shank u

[bleak belfry]

theoretically you would need to somehow automatically trap them in the glass because otherwise it could shank you or jump into your eye and wait for later

[winged crest]

Yea

[wintry rampart]

yeah give the glass the kira's dad treatment and he can never use his stand again

[keen crystal]

or you could close your eyes

4head

[winged crest]

That plan is terrible

[winged crest]

Did you miss what we've been saying

[wintry rampart]

at least you'd die with your eyes closed

[winged crest]

You can't

It'll kill you

[bleak belfry]

you close your eyes and its gonna shank you

[obsidian stag]

You would die trying tho

[winged crest]

While you duck tape

[obsidian stag]

It can still get you tho

[keen crystal]

yeha but if u close ur eyes it cant jump into your eyes

[winged crest]

Them it just kills you

[bleak belfry]

...but you couldnt see whats going on

[keen crystal]

yeah

but you could like

[bleak belfry]

unless you are n'doul, fighting blindly doesnt sound like a great option

[keen crystal]

point the mirror away from you

that its in

then duct tape it ez

[worn lava]

Imagine if hanged man could be eaten by plants for photosynthesis

[winged crest]

Trapping Hanged Man is the worst idea I've ever seen

[wintry rampart]

lmfao

[obsidian stag]

If your in the shards refection your dead

[winged crest]

And it's a mirror shard it reflects on both sides

[wintry rampart]

imagine hanged man is like assassinating a president or something and then he dies to a normal fucking plant

[obsidian stag]

^

[winged crest]

You can't point it away while u duck tape

[worn lava]

Is hanged man the fastest moving stand?

[wintry rampart]

That's why I'll always praise the OVA because they capture what it means to make an image into something that moves
@wanton turret same, the OVA is better than the adaptation only because it has the virtue of not being what is basically a motion comic

[obsidian stag]

SC and SP, ZW

Probably a certain Pt5 stand too

[winged crest]

And some we can't mention

[wintry rampart]

one with drip kicks

[obsidian stag]

Which I can't mention for legal reasons

[obsidian stag]

And a werid ass neck

[wintry rampart]

and a weird ass forehead

[obsidian stag]

^

[bleak belfry]

i wonder what stand you could be referring to

[obsidian stag]

And funny af facial expressions

[wintry rampart]

40 shades of anger

[bleak belfry]

you forgot slightly less anger

[stone rose]

There are other fast moving stands, but for part 3, yeah I'd say SP and TW are the fastest

[winged crest]

SC

[obsidian stag]

[bleak belfry]

what does SC stand for?

[obsidian stag]

ZW too

Silver Chariot

[bleak belfry]

ah ok

[stone rose]

Ah true

[bleak belfry]

isnt star plat faster than SC?

[wintry rampart]

wait what's ZW

[wintry rampart]

i think they're approximately the same speed judging by the alessi beatdown

[obsidian stag]

In a way yes but Pol did overwhelm SP when he took it's armor off

[stone rose]

What about Hierophant Green? When Kakyoin was up on the rooftops, he managed to make a whole 20 meter emerald barrier within a matter of seconds considering how fast it took Dio to arrive

[obsidian stag]

And then SC when Pol is angry af too

[obsidian stag]

Za Waurdo

[wintry rampart]

considering it was invisible he could have been setting it up while dio was talking

[wintry rampart]

ah

[stone rose]

Hmm

Perhaps

[obsidian stag]

That would be like 40 here

[stone rose]

It's a bit expensive, considering it's practically $60 here, but it's coming straight from Japan so maybe it would be worth the price... idk

[obsidian stag]

Idk when I'm ordering shit directly from Japan to Ireland it's not even expensive

[bleak belfry]

so i should order my packages from japan to ireland and then have it shipped to the us? aight

[zenith linden]

I think jojo is gay

[obsidian stag]

It's very flamboyant

[worn lava]

Part 2 is gay

[wintry rampart]

everyone in part five is dressed like a gay stripper and then they say they wear normal clothes to blend in

[obsidian stag]

Ah shit here we go again

[zenith linden]

ur mum`s ghey

[worn lava]

Or is it homophonic because the gay people die

[obsidian stag]

Never met her

[worn lava]

🤔

[past sail]

no because straight people die too

[obsidian stag]

^

[zenith linden]

I think Alessi is pedogay

[obsidian stag]

Here we go with the is jojo a gay show bs again

[worn lava]

Isn’t Death 13 the perfect assassin?

[obsidian stag]

Yes in a way

[worn lava]

At least in theory

[bleak belfry]

just because in part 5 they dress a little weird it doesnt mean they are gay

[obsidian stag]

^

[wintry rampart]

think about death 13 but mannish boy is an adult

[zenith linden]

i think Dio is gay

[wintry rampart]

dio literally is he's bi

[bleak belfry]

death 13 is pretty much unstoppable once the victim is alseep

since the user was a baby, it was even better

[obsidian stag]

The dumbest argument in this fandom is the bs A certain Italian priest is gay argument

[zenith linden]

what

[worn lava]

And everyone needs sleep

[zenith linden]

?

[worn lava]

Nobody is safe

[bleak belfry]

doesnt it officially state he had no sexual intent

[wintry rampart]

yeah if you don't toy with them you can kill anyone

[obsidian stag]

It's confirmed Dio is Bi

[worn lava]

Except vampires

Or pillarmen

[zenith linden]

You have night?

[bleak belfry]

kakyoin only survived death 13 cuz of plot armor

[worn lava]

most people aren’t safe

[obsidian stag]

I think so idk

[wintry rampart]

wait, he's italian?

damn

[obsidian stag]

Yes

[wintry rampart]

agreed

[obsidian stag]

^

[zenith linden]

I think MrMadman is gay, he is suuus

[bleak belfry]

i mean, a lot of stands in the show are really op but the protagonists only survive cuz of plot armor

[obsidian stag]

The logic in jojo tho

[bleak belfry]

fuunny? among us refrence?

[wintry rampart]

when the impostor is sus

[zenith linden]

I think kakyoin is gay because he kak

[wintry rampart]

"the bullet merely scratched my skull"

[zenith linden]

yoin

[wintry rampart]

it's ok jotaro the bullet only went through my brain

[obsidian stag]

Logic somehow 💯

[small stratus]

my man's status was yare yare daze

[past sail]

you can survive a bullet through your brain

you might be fucked up after though

[obsidian stag]

It's possible

But your brain is fucked

[zenith linden]

Yora yora dove

[near star]

@zenith linden, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

[past sail]

yeah

[bleak belfry]

i think avdol should have died there

it would be better treatment then he got in the rest of the show

[wintry rampart]

yeah it woulda kept people on edge

[bleak belfry]

as a motivator for polnareff

[past sail]

agreed

[small stratus]

facts

[obsidian stag]

And remember kids human Logic isn't applied in jojo unless it's for the plots sake

[wintry rampart]

like people would think "if he dies this early no one is safe"

[zenith linden]

I think avdol is gay

[wintry rampart]

woah

[bleak belfry]

and then we could not have the entirety of the fight on the island with that wish guy

woah

[wintry rampart]

i seen that

[bleak belfry]

wtf

[obsidian stag]

ARE YOU SERIOUS WTF

[bleak belfry]

i saw that

[zenith linden]

I just pun

[obsidian stag]

DUDE SERIOUSLY?

[zenith linden]

Ok man

[wintry rampart]

did you see what he put under it and then deleted?

[obsidian stag]

Bruh 🗿

[obsidian stag]

Yes

[bleak belfry]

you just keep saying characters are gay because of {insert visual attribute}

[past sail]

exactly

[obsidian stag]

He literally said Avdol is gay Because he's black

[wintry rampart]

ikr

[small stratus]

they did iggy dirty tho

[bleak belfry]

iggy was so underused

[worn lava]

Iggy is straight

[zenith linden]

Stop

[obsidian stag]

Ig all black ppl are gay now

[past sail]

makes total sense

[zenith linden]

Iggy is gay because he is black

[obsidian stag]

Human Fucking logic 💯

[wintry rampart]

he literally talks about getting bitches so

[small stratus]

like they said when iggy was introduced that jotaro couldn't beat him the he got fucked by a bird

[bleak belfry]

iggy has more bitches on him than jotaro

[worn lava]

The fool's localized name would be Dumb Bitch

change my mind

[obsidian stag]

Nah your right

[wintry rampart]

its funny because when iggy says bitches he means the original meaning of bitch

[zenith linden]

Heh

[wintry rampart]

being "female dog"

[obsidian stag]

Yes

[bleak belfry]

i thought it meant pregnant female dog

[small stratus]

like they said when iggy was introduced that jotaro couldn't beat him the he got fucked by a bird

like tf

[zenith linden]

i think EnyA is gay

[worn lava]

A bird with Ridley for a stand

[wintry rampart]

lol

[bleak belfry]

wow i really appreciate your constant chatter about characters being gay its really productive and informative

[wintry rampart]

it really brings a lot to the table

[obsidian stag]

Dude if your gonna act stupid shh

[small stratus]

makes me gay

[obsidian stag]

Next he's gonna say it's gay to read the Bible

[zenith linden]

Killer queen is gay because he is Killer

[wintry rampart]

saying insert part three character is gay really makes this conversation so much better

[bleak belfry]

the whole jojo is gay joke is just so overused and it was never even funny in the first place

[bleak belfry]

WHAT IS YOUR POINT

[obsidian stag]

No future part shit here

[worn lava]

No killer queen is not gay

he's a cat

[obsidian stag]

^^^^^^

[worn lava]

his owner is handsexual

[obsidian stag]

LMFFFFFFAAAAAOOO

[small stratus]

people say it's gay cause it's to masculine for them making people who say it's gay actually gay

[zenith linden]

I think fourth sex pistol is gay because he is fourth

[obsidian stag]

Jojo isn't gay it's just very flamboyant

[worn lava]

yes russian guy

[small stratus]

jojo is ungay

[worn lava]

and that means pistols are straight

[small stratus]

so people who say jojo gay are gay

[obsidian stag]

It's literally Fanservice for ppl that like men and women

[wintry rampart]

they're not gay they're just unfunny

[zenith linden]

Oh, you love jojo? Call every character

[obsidian stag]

Oh

Shit

[wintry rampart]

you didn;t even say the meme right lmfao

[zenith linden]

Hoho

[obsidian stag]

Here

We

Go

[zenith linden]

Go

[obsidian stag]

With

The dead memes

[keen crystal]

jojo is a surprisingly straight show tbh

[wintry rampart]

lemme pull up my contacts and call all the jojo characters

[keen crystal]

theres like 7 gay characters

[zenith linden]

Seriously? Is this a dead meme&

[wintry rampart]

Yes. Yes it is.

[small stratus]

yes

[zenith linden]

Fuck

[worn lava]

if jojo didn't have star finger he'd be screwed against strength right

[zenith linden]

Sorry? i am have a lot of russians showers

[small stratus]

you spelt that wrong it's fuck me harder ren daddy

[obsidian stag]

Grammar 💯

[wintry rampart]

strength would star finger him

[zenith linden]

My showers are gays

[wintry rampart]

what?

[zenith linden]

My

showers

are

gay

[small stratus]

shoesuke

[obsidian stag]

Next up being alive is gay

[zenith linden]

Yes

Life is fun

[obsidian stag]

This is why 2021 is gonna be an ass year

[small stratus]

why are u taking him seriously

[near star]

@small stratus, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !

[obsidian stag]

I'm not

[wintry rampart]

it's better to ignore this dude

[worn lava]

Isn't strength pretty OP

[wintry rampart]

how so?

[obsidian stag]

Wait what stand is that?

[wintry rampart]

monke

[worn lava]

It's a giant ship that Monke has complete control overy aspect of

[wintry rampart]

no but like

[obsidian stag]

Oh

[wintry rampart]

how the fuck is your inner spirit a fucking boat

[small stratus]

that is a monke of culture

[worn lava]

It's tenacious

like a boat

[wintry rampart]

and what the fuck would happen if the monke got pierced and summoned it in DIO's house

[small stratus]

wouldn't happen

he is to alpha

he wanks openly in front of children

[worn lava]

Well Alpha males need to assert dominance

what assert dominance like summoning a massive boat in someone's house

[small stratus]

nah imaging monke cumming on you

[worn lava]

destroying it and probably making them die from sunlight

[small stratus]

that's alpha

[wintry rampart]

what was araki thinking when he wrote the monke though

hmm who should be the antagonist while they're on a boat

[small stratus]

idk pedo wank porn

[wintry rampart]

i know a pedo monkey who's stand is a boat

i think araki gets high before writing some arcs

[weary turret]

its a pretty good arc

[worn lava]

can Sethan move?

[weary turret]

it establishes a lot of things for the series

[wintry rampart]

i mean it is it's the concept which is so weird

[worn lava]

or is it just a bound shadow

[small stratus]

like ngl the vehicle stands kinda sucked

[wintry rampart]

i think it only comes from alessi's shadow

[worn lava]

but can it grow

I forget

[wintry rampart]

yes it can i think

yeah cause that's how it gets polnareff the first time

it lengthens

and he jumps over it but not in time

[worn lava]

oh

[weary turret]

animals can have stands, stands can be just about anything, etc

[worn lava]

S tier?

[wintry rampart]

probably

if alessi wasn't a fucking dumbass he woulda killed polnareff

[small stratus]

that episode with Alessi was low key just creepy

[wintry rampart]

or jotaro

like why kill them with the axe just deage them until they're a fetus

[wintry rampart]

agreed

[small stratus]

polnareff got more ass as a 4 year old than an adult

[weary turret]

i feel like it was necessary to make the ape as evil as possible (weird pedo, murdered the crew, and so on) so the audience doesnt feel so bad when jotaro kills it lol

[wintry rampart]

yeah

[weary turret]

its writing conventions of the time. its one thing to let polnareff kill his enemies, but another thing to let the golden hero do it

[wintry rampart]

araki apparantly makes villains kill dogs because he likes dogs and it makes people seem more evil

[weary turret]

but if its a really evil animal, i guess you could get away with it, even in the 80s lol

[small stratus]

I'm low-key sad jotaro didn't kill that guy who had the mind bug thing

[wintry rampart]

lovers?

[small stratus]

jojo did dogs to dirty

[weary turret]

steely dan lol

[small stratus]

yes

[weary turret]

nah i really love how jotaro handled steely dan

[small stratus]

he should of broken his dick

[weary turret]

people think of SDC jotaro as some yelling angry dude

but like, hes actually really calm and collected

[wintry rampart]

Yeah hes the ultimate straight man in a story filled with grotesque people and horror

[keen crystal]

str*ight

🤮

[weary turret]

lets not forget that even after everything, jotaro was still willing to let steely dan walk away

[small stratus]

ur mom

[weary turret]

jotaros gay dw

[keen crystal]

my mom is sadly straight

[wintry rampart]

Yikes

[zenith linden]

i think peoples are gays

[small stratus]

like I wish he got it worse but just shows jotars real character

[wintry rampart]

Straight has more than 1 definition

[keen crystal]

yeah

but straight "people" are cringe af

[wintry rampart]

No need to get sociopolitical

[small stratus]

ur mom

[wintry rampart]

Take it to #575627798262185994

[keen crystal]

joe nuts

[weary turret]

do it yourself

[small stratus]

ur mom

[weary turret]

wheres the pink jotaro figure

[wintry rampart]

No need, Im here for the Jotaro talk

[small stratus]

ur mom

[keen crystal]

joe

[wintry rampart]

Not to rage and spam

[small stratus]

ur mom

[keen crystal]

lmao ok fred

you raged and spammed yesterday

and got muted

[small stratus]

ur mom

[keen crystal]

your mother

[zenith linden]

I think hes gay

[small stratus]

ur mom

[wintry rampart]

Yeah because I upset a shitposter who proceeded to go full fursecution

[keen crystal]

ur mom

[wintry rampart]

Real nice

[small stratus]

ur mom

[keen crystal]

ur mom

[small stratus]

ur mom

[keen crystal]

ur dad

[weary turret]

everyone shut the fuck up

talk about jojo

jojo part 3

[zenith linden]

Wowow the part 3 is so cool

[near star]

@zenith linden, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

[keen crystal]

part 3 sucks

[weary turret]

thank you

[keen crystal]

yes!

i am gay!

[weary turret]

irrelevant to part

[keen crystal]

thanks for reminding me bro

[zenith linden]

Hes gay

[weary turret]

3

[keen crystal]

*shes

[wintry rampart]

oof

[zenith linden]

I think part 3 have some Dio

[wintry rampart]

"haha look at me guys gay is an insult hahahahahahahahahahahahah
...........guys?"

[keen crystal]

^

[wintry rampart]

So anyway, Jotaro is the ultimate straight man

[zenith linden]

Short about part 3

[weary turret]

please dont make me call in the real mods bros

[keen crystal]

hes at least a bisexual man

[wintry rampart]

^

[weary turret]

talk about sdc

[wintry rampart]

Jojo fans hate Jojo

So dont expect much

[weary turret]

not my problem

[zenith linden]

I so love Steel Doll Cone

[wintry rampart]

Im leaving, enjoy your "part 3 channel"

[keen crystal]

and nothing of value was lost

[small stratus]

jojo did dogs real dirty

especially dio

[zenith linden]

Hahavada kedavra

[worn lava]

does this look about right

[small stratus]

death 13 should be higher

but mostly

[worn lava]

low A maybe

it's low because it only works when they're asleep

[small stratus]

the plug should also be lower

[worn lava]

Have you seen that thing

[zenith linden]

i think cream should be higher

[small stratus]

yes but people in jojo are to smart

[wintry rampart]

why is justice below hermit purple

[worn lava]

it's not

[wintry rampart]

forgot all of them

what's that town thing then

does this look about right
@worn lava seems legit

[chrome beacon]

Oingo boingo best stands wym

[wintry rampart]

top of F

what is that

[worn lava]

That's the illusion guy in dio's mansion

the guy who died without a fight

[weary turret]

uh no

[wintry rampart]

star platinum or za warudo?

[weary turret]

thats Tenore Sax

[wintry rampart]

ah ok

[weary turret]

Justice is enya's similar stand that they beat in pakistan

it made the ghost town

its in B

[wintry rampart]

when i read that without you editing that i was like

[small stratus]

favorite jojo¿

[near star]

@small stratus, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

[weary turret]

not a great question for #stardust-crusaders

[wintry rampart]

damn

i was wondering why my message got deleted and then i was like "wait"

bruh

yes

[small stratus]

OK but like no

[wintry rampart]

ok so between my eight options of Jotaro Jotaro Jotaro Jotaro Jotaro Jotaro Jotaro Jotaro i think i'll pick Avdol

[worn lava]

Also Joseph and Jonathan

[weary turret]

well theres always joseph and jonathan. i guess

[wintry rampart]

joseph and jotaro

[small stratus]

Joseph is just to funny

[wintry rampart]

well theres always joseph and jonathan. i guess
@weary turret theyre being passive aggressive

woah

quotes in 2021

Im mobile rn

[small stratus]

this mans status was yare yare daze

[weary turret]

[12:44 PM] MrMadman: woah [12:45 PM] MrMadman: quotes in 2021
back in my day we had to go through quotes like this smh

[small stratus]

like why

if u don't watch jojo don't use a jojo reference

[wintry rampart]

mighta been a reference to other animes though

[small stratus]

no way

[wintry rampart]

levi says yare yare daze sometimes in aot

[small stratus]

wait

[wintry rampart]

what

[small stratus]

bruh these aot galah must get outa here

[wintry rampart]

why is the doll stand i forget the name of at the top of B

that is not better than geb

[zenith linden]

What the last stand of b?

[wintry rampart]

bruh i barely watch any aot

[wintry rampart]

horus

wheres kakyoin's stand

[zenith linden]

B

[obsidian stag]

You gotta post that in #jojo-overall-discussion

[worn lava]

Strength is probably pretty strong

I'd say lovers is pretty powerful too

and the sun is bad because the user needs a ton of cooling to not get killed by it with the enemy

like

a LOT of cooling

and bastet is underrated

She can effortlessly beat just about anyone if they don't quickly find a way to defeat her

[winged crest]

Yare yare daze isn't a jojo thing

It's a normal Japanese phrase

[wintry rampart]

We done begging for attention in here? Ok, so, Jotaro is the ultimate straight man in Jojo yea. After Jonathan's struggle and Joseph's trial-by-fire the bloodline molded this ideal protagonist to take on dangers within the universe. He's basically this nearly unstoppable karmic force.

Oh and he has the dual heritage thing going for him too

[small stratus]

yes ik but

it's still a jojo reference

[winged crest]

no

It isn't

[worn lava]

If they don't primarily speak japanese pretty sure it is meant as a jojo reference

or is at least picked up from jojo

[wintry rampart]

Yare yare is older than Jojo

[wintry rampart]

fuck i forgot about that

don't mind me the professinal idoit

i can't even spell idiot

[wide current]

i found someone saying watching part 3 is more tiring than nearly 1k+ episodes of one piece

What do I say to them

[bleak belfry]

tell them that there is not 1000 episodes of one piece yet

[wintry rampart]

yet

[obsidian stag]

I mean they ain't wrong

[wide current]

what

[wintry rampart]

Didnt you know? Jojo fans hate Jojo

[bleak belfry]

nobody hates jojo fans more than jojo fans, and nobody hates jojo more than jojo fans

[wintry rampart]

but yeah, I dont know what to tell you. I only read 100 chapters of One Piece before giving up

knowing that the story is basically the same for like, 900+ more chapters is discouraging for me

[dull wind]

one piece is so fun what_

[bleak belfry]

im not even gonna attempt one piece
watching naruto original series was so draining for me

[wintry rampart]

One Piece seems very fun

but its also very long

[dull wind]

yeah naruto is so boring except for like 2 arcs

[dull wind]

fair

[wintry rampart]

Ive read Impel Down and Marineford as well tho

[dull wind]

those are amazing

[wintry rampart]

because the hype train got me interested back then

[dull wind]

have u read water 7 or enies lobby

those r my favs

[wintry rampart]

Noooo I wanted to get to them naturally from the beginning and never did

stopped at Loguetown

[dull wind]

rip

[wintry rampart]

because I found out Loguetown was cut short and I would need to watch the anime to see all of it

[dull wind]

yeah

[wintry rampart]

all because Oda wanted to start the new ocean on chapter 100

[dull wind]

i watched the anime bc ik i wouldnt be able to finish the manga

[wintry rampart]

Id never get through the anime

[dull wind]

lol

[wintry rampart]

I can read a comic book

[dull wind]

the anime is a terrible adaptation compared to the quality of the manga

im just a slow reader so it would be bad for me

[wintry rampart]

oh Ive seen that explained in detail before

[dull wind]

yeah lol

[wintry rampart]

adaptations just be that way sometimes

[dull wind]

sadly

[wintry rampart]

especially ones designed around pushing merch/simply increasing manga sales

[dull wind]

yup

[wintry rampart]

thats pretty much how I feel about the Jojo adaptation tho

[dull wind]

jojo anime is like,,, still really good thi

[wintry rampart]

and then watching Jump fail to understand the real draw and start doing weird shit that makes no sense

like, the escape rooms

I dont wanna do normal escape rooms

[bleak belfry]

escape rooms?

[wintry rampart]

there were 2 Jojo escape rooms

[bleak belfry]

wow

[wintry rampart]

they were official events, they run them at US cons as well

[bleak belfry]

i knew about jojo x gucci but didnt think the consumerism went farther than that

[wintry rampart]

its just so base and stupid

I guess it shows Jojo's age

[bleak belfry]

how does a jojo escape room even work

almost all of anime and manga is commercialized

[wintry rampart]

like a normal one, but everyone has like these little props that represent the 3/5 protag stands

and they let you cheat at the puzzles and such

Ive seen the Hermit Purple one cuz some guy ""accidentally"" walked out with it and took pics

[wintry rampart]

Its up and down

[bleak belfry]

total accident when you take a selfie with stolen merchandise

[wintry rampart]

sorry, went on a tirade about the rooms

lmao yea

those were my thoughts

they had original villains designed for them too

[dull wind]

manga is certainly more enjoyable for the most part, still a great adaptation tho

[bleak belfry]

looks like a third d'arby brother

[wintry rampart]

Id still say its up and down

this is the part 5 escape room dude, which I will spoiler I guess?

he like, doesn't matter at all to 5 lmao

[bleak belfry]

the plots for these escape rooms probably sound like the voiceover pete fake scams

[wintry rampart]

"The story takes place during Stardust Crusaders as the Joestar Group make their way to CairoW, EgyptW. After stopping at a hotel along the way, Jotaro and the gang hear a mysterious voice belonging to Dija Maker telling them that they have one hour to live; those who cannot escape the hotel within an hour will disappear without a trace as a result of the power of his Stand House of Holy.

The group assumes this to be one of DIO's minions, but they are unable to locate him within the building. Suddenly, the walls of the room begin to wriggle and the hotel becomes a convoluted maze. Unable to damage the maze itself, the group has to figure out a way to find the enemy's true form and strike before it's too late."

because it was hosted in hotels

basically

[wide current]

o

[wanton turret]

House Of Holy is a better Tenore Sax basically

[wintry rampart]

thats kinda how I took it yeah

like if Kenny G was more than an ultra useful mook

[stone rose]

So uh...

I feel like this question is very commonly asked a lot

[winged crest]

Shoot

[stone rose]

But I've never seen anyone actually answer this

What is Holly's stand?

[winged crest]

We don't know

There's no better answer unfortunately

[stone rose]

Didn't Araki ever explain it off the show or in a manga or something?

It would be important to know considering all of Part 3 was trying to save Holly from her own stand

But we never actually know what it is and it's never brought up again

[winged crest]

It's never brought up cuz it goes dormant again after DIO dies

Cuz she can't control it cuz she's too gentle

[wintry rampart]

Doesn't matter, it wasn't meant to be and the only reason she survived as long as she did with a parasitic stand was because she was a Joestar no doubt, ironic considering thats why her dormant stand is trying to awaken as well

[wide current]

Just know that it's a a viney stand like Joseph's and Jonathan's

[delicate agate]

It’s never answered but if I were to guess it’s probably a healing stand since Holly is a caring person

[stone rose]

These answers do make sense

Yeah, I understand now

It's just a shame we didn't get to see her stand in action

[scarlet lodge]

healing plant girl

[dark basin]

I had a theory about what it could be

Holly’s Mother Love
A stand composed of vines that channel life. They can wrap around someone and give them life, restoring their whole body to a healthy state. Anyone with a vine around them is invincible (like Dio’s invincibility) until the vine is cut. She can also flick the vine, making it act like a whip.
Stand Cry: ORRRRRRRRRRRRA! (with the “or” during the wind up and the “a” being at the delivery of the smack. She then looks to Jotaro to see if she did it right)

[wintry rampart]

~welcome to cold stone~

We've been working at the cold stone, all to live a long day, we will thank you for your visit as we pound the stone away, Muda Muda Muda Muda Muuu ZA WARUDO

[winged crest]

It's not parasitic

It is only hurting her cuz she can't handle a stand

Avdol said as much near the beginning

[nocturne roost]

I don’t know why but I feel disturbed by this lol

[delicate agate]

Yaaaaay I was ghost pinged in this channel

[wintry rampart]

i thought kakyoin gonna betray them at first

[wintry rampart]

guys guys

🪨 🪨

[worn lava]

LMAO

[winged crest]

Can't believe I was expecting something interesting

[slender nacelle]

when you just made it to part 3 and you're obsessed with kakyoin

[winged crest]

Can relate

[slender nacelle]

it's a problem

[winged crest]

No

[slender nacelle]

it is a problem i have to much fanart

[near star]

@slender nacelle, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

[winged crest]

Still not seeing the problem

[slender nacelle]

bruh

[wintry rampart]

What if jotaro fought vanilla ice

[winged crest]

He'd die

[cedar pine]

^

[wintry rampart]

Okuyasu vs vanilla ice?

[winged crest]

Can't talk about that character here

Still Vanilla

[wintry rampart]

Ok

would there have been a way to beat vanilla ice if he didn't become a vampire?

[winged crest]

Did you miss

The several times

Polnareff fucking stabbed him

[wintry rampart]

ah right

[winged crest]

For instance the time he ran him trough the mouth

[wintry rampart]

forgot about that

[cedar pine]

Glad he did. Damn bastard.

[near star]

@cedar pine, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

[bleak belfry]

can vampires only regen if they have human blood?

[winged crest]

According to Straizo in part 2

Blood = energy
Regeneration need energy to be fast

Or else it's very slow

[bleak belfry]

so vampires can sort of regenerate the more blood they have

like how dio could regen during jotaro fight

[cedar pine]

I think it depends on how Injured you are

Like how Dio regenerated his hole by taking the ladies blood from the store

[winged crest]

And leg

Straizo couldn't regenerate his legs fast enough cuz he was outta energy

[bleak belfry]

dio is so polite
he asks nicely for the woman to put his legs back together

[winged crest]

After getting blown up

[crude pilot]

Why do people think that kakyoin’s parents are wondering where he went, they died in Egypt when he was like 4 years old

[wanton turret]

They didn't die though

[bleak belfry]

when did they die?

[wintry rampart]

It's not parasitic
@winged crest I mean, its something shes hosting thats killing her with no benefit. Which is what a parasite does.

[winged crest]

Wtf are you on about

They ain't dead

[bleak belfry]

and why would they be dead in egypt?

i thought kak was japanese

[wanton turret]

They visited egypt

[crude pilot]

Watch sdc the episode where jotaro defeats kakyoin

[wanton turret]

But that was when kak was already like, in his teens

[wintry rampart]

Kakyoins parents arent dead btw

[bleak belfry]

we never even see his parents

[winged crest]

Can somebody find

Kakyoin's character sheet thing in the manga

And post it

My phone about to die so I can't

[bleak belfry]

where would i be able to find that

[winged crest]

Not sure

[wintry rampart]

kakyoin said he wondered what they were doing during the time of his death doesn't he?

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

[bleak belfry]

is it on the wiki? im just looking here

[winged crest]

Yes actually

[winged crest]

In the manga

Not sure which arc tho

[bleak belfry]

yea obviously its the manga character sheet but i have no idea where it is or how to find it

[wanton turret]

Both parents alive

[wintry rampart]

yep

[bleak belfry]

woops im a bit late

[winged crest]

@crude pilot here

[wanton turret]

They went to egypt when he was already in high school

[winged crest]

Not too long before SDC

[bleak belfry]

its strange that DIO put a flesh bud in kak but left his parents alive

[near star]

@bleak belfry, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 12 !

[wanton turret]

Well, he didn't put a flesh bid on avdol, though I forget exactly why

[bleak belfry]

cuz avdol escaped

[wintry rampart]

yeah

[wanton turret]

Right

[winged crest]

Avdol ran

[bleak belfry]

avdol said nah fam and got the hell out of there

[dull wind]

avdol smart

[stone rose]

Not really

Avdol died because he was stupid

No offense to him, I loved Avdol

But in his last moments, he could have just ran to the side or something

The writing on the wall said, turn around and you'll die

Any reasonable human being would just run

Or... not turn around

He ends up turning around and gets killed

[wintry rampart]

still his face expression is priceless

[cedar pine]

magicians dead

[small stratus]

bruhh

[slender nacelle]

imagine spelling kars wrong

[wintry rampart]

He didnt spell it wrong. "Kars" is incorrect but everyone uses it because thats the Japanese spelling because they dont differentiate between K and C

But hes named for the Cars

Its like calling ACDC "esidesi"

[slender nacelle]

oh mk

[wintry rampart]

hmmm thanks @wintry rampart

Like I aint holding people to either version of any Pillar Man name

I want to know kars stand

Just sayin

[weary turret]

kars is used in official japanese jojo media, for what its worth

its still probably more correct to use Cars tho imo

[weary turret]

well, people cant get his last name right either :v

[wintry rampart]

Lmao

[wintry rampart]

I dont know why you go as far as deleting character names

Who is getting upset over that

[weary turret]

me

[wintry rampart]

Why, you guys miss so many "uh mods??" moments when you arent looking you could find so many more problematic spoilers in these channels that get over looked and are more than just "some chode's name from part 5"

so it seems so petty to just slam on things that are even put into spoiler tags when you aren't going to be attentive enough when people are legit spoiling deaths and stand abilities left and right for the sake of like a vs. discussion

It makes the illusion of control very thin when people are laffin at you guys behind your backs

im here dont ask

not trying to create an argument btw

[weary turret]

i dont think i slammed on anything. i didnt even ask you to do anything about it. also i dont really care and my only real job is to clean up jojokes and spoilers in these channels

[wintry rampart]

💁‍♂️

[winged crest]

dude.... Vanilla Ice would kill Iggy and Polnareff then

[winged crest]

What

That was an intimidation tactic, do you really think Vanilla Ice would just not attack if they kept walking forward

[wintry rampart]

I think the graffiti is fate reading tbh

because Avdol is a fortune teller

The idea of Vanilla Ice scribbling something on a wall in hopes that someone specifically grips that part of the wall and sees it is ridiculous

that does make sense

I only think so because something something #vento-aureo

but that place is busy rn

[winged crest]

valid assumption

Don't think it's that deep, but good idea

[wintry rampart]

I dont think its that deep

It just makes more sense that Avdol is seeing his death sentence than the commonly accepted explanation

but people dont really talk about this AT ALL

Did you see my Vento Aureo message as well?

[winged crest]

i did not

too much clutter

[wintry rampart]

unfortunately

hold on

[nocturne roost]

w h e e z e

[queen thorn]

[nocturne roost]

https://youtu.be/50LArzrf6Y8

I gotta admit, that stand reveal is badass

for a stand that’s kinda whack lol

[wide current]

Soul Sacked

[wintry rampart]

Part 3 anime was very front-loaded

[winged crest]

Ear rape = funny

[steel ivy]

i would let the pillar men do dirty things to me

[keen crystal]

guys get it

the joke is sex

[steel ivy]

yes 😳

[urban rover]

Currently watching this and exposing my friend to it

Mwuahahhaha

[zenith linden]

I think Dio wears Vanilla`s clothes because
their clothes are similar. Their clothes haves hearts

What do you think about this?

[thorny sigil]

i am not capable of thinking

[keen crystal]

Dio isn't black so he cant be gay for vanilla icd

[past sail]

thats gonna look weird for people who dont know why you said that

[wanton turret]

What

[past sail]

the joke is the person that said this also said avdol was gay because hes black

[keen crystal]

I love how jan instantly proved your point

and yeah mother love is never gonna live this one down

[zenith linden]

Cyberbooling

[brittle quartz]

boolin

[keen crystal]

I don't speak Russian

Please translate

[zenith linden]

i know

I forbid you cyberbullying(translate)

[near star]

@zenith linden, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

[zenith linden]

ok, i just want to ask you about your memes. In russia we haves very strange memes. It calls «Postironiya». I want to ask you. Do you have memes like this:

Rospperries Rospperries party like this

[forest pewter]

What

[near star]

@forest pewter, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 41 !

[forest pewter]

I'm calling the police

[zenith linden]

What do not you like?

[forest pewter]

This is #stardust-crusaders

[zenith linden]

Oh fuck

[brittle quartz]

nice meme

[zenith linden]

Where can I forward this?

[forest pewter]

#memes-and-images

[zenith linden]

Thank

[brittle quartz]

snitchin

[zenith linden]

?

[forest pewter]

What

Imma drink you

Tea

[zenith linden]

Snitchin

What is this

Stukach?

[brittle quartz]

exactly

[urban rover]

I hate that Joseph was too lazy to teach Jotaro Hamon

[zealous pelican]

That would have been interesting to have seen

[acoustic pendant]

It’s not like there would be much point to teaching him though

[honest flare]

I mean there wasn’t enough time,

[past sail]

yeah

[acoustic pendant]

Hamon was really just for fighting vampires and healing

[keen crystal]

there was no time

they had 50 days to fight across a whole ass continent

joseph had longer to learn from the best hamon practitioner there is while not doing anything else in a facility specifically built for that purpose

[swift horizon]

I thought Joesph had 30 days?

But at the same time they wouldn't have been able to train regardless since like you said they were traveling the entire time

[nova condor]

Is there a high res photo of jotaro just standing

like no pose, no nothing

just standing

I need it for a meme lol

[steel ivy]

I hope I’m dead before I’m 30

[obsidian stag]

Why?

[steel ivy]

Why would anyone want to live beyond 30

[obsidian stag]

I do tho

[steel ivy]

U are delusional then

[obsidian stag]

👏

[winged crest]

They'd run out of tiiiiiiime

[obsidian stag]

Ah jeez

[bleak belfry]

Is jotaro even eligible for hamon?

[wanton turret]

We don't know

[bleak belfry]

Since it seemed to have skipped a generation with Jonathan and Joseph it’s possible

But it doesn’t mean every other generation is a definite rule

[wanton turret]

If that was the case, jotaro would be eligible

[bleak belfry]

Yeah but like I’m saying, only 2 cases of generation skipping have been shown

So it’s not enough to make a definite case

There was Jorge joestar and Mario zeppeli or whatever caesars dad was named

[knotty geode]

helo

[small stratus]

imagine if jotaro knew he could stop time from the beginning

[bleak belfry]

it would be a much shorter part

[winged crest]

No?

Unless he stopped Gray Fly from dropping the plane

[bleak belfry]

there are a lot of stand fights where jotaro could just stop time and bam he does an ora ora ora rush

[winged crest]

But then DIO would just kill Polnareff as soon as he saw him, and Kakyoin and Joseph

Because he'd know ah my enemy has a stand that can stop time

No time for screwing around

Then Pol couldn't help later

[bleak belfry]

yea if that was the case jotaro would probably lose

but if jotaro had timestop from the start, could he have surpassed 2 seconds by the time he got to dio?

i mean, timestop is meaningless if its between two people who have timestop for the same duration

[mental charm]

Rip iGgY

[stone rose]

And Kakyoin

And Avdol

And Dio

And Joseph for like 10 minutes

[winged crest]

why DIO

[small stratus]

dio is bae

[winged crest]

He's a good character

[tawny imp]

dio is very dead

[winged crest]

He's a piece of shit too

[small stratus]

true but he is charming asf

[tawny imp]

true

true

[winged crest]

idgaf

he deserved to die

[small stratus]

like I'm not gay

and I know dio is bi

so like I wouldn't mind

[tawny imp]

then what are you?

[small stratus]

I'm not gay

but for dio

[tawny imp]

DIO is the only exception

[small stratus]

nahh

and pol

[winged crest]

i said that

[winged crest]

and that

it wasn't correct

[small stratus]

rotlfmfao

[winged crest]

hate to brake it to ya but i think you might be bi xD

[small stratus]

ik

[tawny imp]

[small stratus]

lol I read that wrong

[small stratus]

nah

just for dio and pol

tho

[tawny imp]

polnareffu?

[near star]

@tawny imp, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

[tawny imp]

hell yeah gangstar level 1

very cool

im yellow

im piss rank

[small stratus]

very nice

[tawny imp]

awesome

[small stratus]

favourite jojo meme?????

[tawny imp]

[small stratus]

very nice

My fellow galah

[wanton lake]

YES YES YES YES

[wintry rampart]

[lunar shore]

maybe when Joseph say " OH MY GOD " or " OH NO "

[small stratus]

lmao

[lunar shore]

( sorry for my bad english, i am from Polnareff country ;w; )

[winged crest]

Those alone are just quotes tho

Not memes

:P

[lunar shore]

not false...

[wintry rampart]

They do be reaction phrases tho-

Anything can be a meme nowadays

[small stratus]

they are quotes but u can turn them into memes depending on how u use them

[wicked storm]

why the fuck does dio have a heart on his skull

[wintry rampart]

hello

omg

dont get it

[wanton anchor]

Jotaros va just read her letter on the joestar radio podcast.

[wintry rampart]

oh nice

[wintry rampart]

@wintry rampart hum, your'e not supposed to be hum ... dead ?

im back

look

go to vento aroue look what i said

ok

[steel ivy]

If I got a stand I’d do some fucked up shit

[near star]

@steel ivy, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

[small stratus]

same

[random lodge]

Do you guys think Jotaro uses flouride mouthwash or the blue green kind

[thorny sigil]

blue green definitely

[storm axle]

okay, someone explain this lmao

[winged crest]

The xray shot is showing as if it were a real x ray meaning it won't show clothing but will show metal

And that is a metal heart on his headband

[brittle quartz]

it's just there because it looks cool

[winged crest]

That's not the question

[brittle quartz]

The point is that you're not supposed to analyze it and just look at the intention

[bright remnant]

Joseph could kick Jotaro’s ass in a no stand no hammon fight

[winged crest]

No he couldn't lol

[bright remnant]

But he could :((

[winged crest]

Jotaro has the same amount of muscle and brains as Joseph

[bright remnant]

Alright

Then how come

Joseph has never lost using his secret technique

[winged crest]

Jotaro never lost when he used that technique

The one time he used it

[bright remnant]

Joseph took years perfecting the art of the joestar technique

Passed it down along to Jotaro

Joseph would have a better understanding of the technique’s power than jotaro

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You know that's a meme right?

Running away doesn't = win

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joseph is an old man

jotaro is 17

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Then why has he never lost?

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Part 2 joseph

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part 3 jotaro was stated to be unnaturally strong he even defeated alessi when he was turned back to 7 years old he had the punch of a man

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Part 2 joseph

Flew

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He used it twice

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A fucking plane

With no

Windshield

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joseph will try to rely on mind tactics and run away as a last resort

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He flew a plane with no windshield

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Which was his only choice twice