jojolion

[tame plover]

and bad writing

but that is not even the source of the argument

[hard meteor]

not a rival i just have strong opinions on the bad writing in jojolion

[tame plover]

lion is from the concepts of blessings and gospels (evangelion) with josuke himself being a blessing

so josuke is the lion

[minor ore]

Fr?

[tame plover]

and the corpse gives out lions

[minor ore]

About the Evangelion thing

[tame plover]

and the grafted rokakaka is a lion

[potent wren]

You're a blessing

[sweet dune]

😳

[oak wadi]

JoJolion third impact...

[sweet dune]

What if jojolion ended with everyone turning into orange juice

[potent wren]

What if MiH turned everyone into orange juice

[oak wadi]

What if JoJolion ended with Josuke finally accepting himself with everyone congratulating him- wait

[strange hamlet]

what if heavy weather turned everything into orange juice

[tame plover]

apparently stated by Araki himself in the inside cover of volume 2 "the "-lion" ending in the title comes from both the Christian concept of blessing and the gospels ("evangelion" in Greek), and the Ancient Greek myth of Pygmalion"

[sweet dune]

Araki had the entire part planned out but at the same time he didnt

[oak wadi]

Still the best part imo

[tame plover]

6 >

[sweet dune]

6 and 8 are peak

[strange hamlet]

Stone Ocean supremacy

[hard meteor]

6 and 7 better

[tame plover]

yes

[oak wadi]

🤔

[sweet dune]

7 mid

[potent wren]

I like every part

[sweet dune]

Has too many reaolves plot points

[tame plover]

https://tenor.com/view/lithiumare-kiracord-nerd-marbellu-gif-22666819

[minor ore]

True

And 4

It has Josuke 🙏

[hard meteor]

yeah i cant believe sbr actually had good writing so mid😔

[oak wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerd-emoji-meme-speech-bubble-bubble-gif-25115885

[sweet dune]

8 also has josuke

[tame plover]

there are like 2 josukes

[minor ore]

But 4 has Josuke4

[tame plover]

in jojolion

and one of them has 4 balls

so they have 6 balls overall

[sweet dune]

BAHAHA 4 BALLS FUN Y

[tame plover]

dominating over josuke4

6 balls
4 eyes
2 toungues

[sinful bramble]

There’s also Yasuho’s dog, and Norisuke’s birth name was Josuke, so 4

[tame plover]

so many josukes

the true josuke4

[sweet dune]

Dr. Kira can put 100 SHAs in me anytime

[sinful bramble]

No, he DIED

He can’t!!

[sweet dune]

FUCK

[strange hamlet]

same 😳

[tame plover]

do controlled explosions in me 😩

[woven anvil]

@sinful bramble has been muted
Reason: evil messages

Jojo07#0001 has been unmuted

[sinful bramble]

[sweet dune]

Wouldnt Dr. KQ be a really good stand for surgeons

[hard meteor]

Yeah

[tame plover]

well for certain surgeons

dealing with any cottage or tumors? Blow em up

[hard meteor]

Could easily get rid of blood clots and tumors

[tame plover]

tits implant? Bad idea

[light swift]

She could have placed pipe bombs in her boobs

[sacred dove]

Which stand would u rather have sheer heart attack pt 4 or born this way

[oak wadi]

Unborn this road

[sacred dove]

Why u say it like that

Thats not what its called

[oak wadi]

You're right

You know how it's called?

[sacred dove]

No how

[oak wadi]

Jotaro oxe cheng ora ora ira

[oak wadi]

Jotarl

[strange hamlet]

agreed

[oak wadi]

Same

Fr

[long zodiac]

Jotarl moment

[oak wadi]

Beef in internet skullskullskull

[long zodiac]

idc about giorno vs goku

[oak wadi]

Hating simps, pick mes

[sinful bramble]

@minor ore 🤓

Arki said we can skep DuI!

[sweet dune]

you honestly can just skip parts 1-6 and be fine on 7 and 8

[olive bobcat]

nah skip 7 its not worth reading

[oak wadi]

True

[sinful bramble]

Part 3 is better because of big man punch fast angry

[olive bobcat]

true!

[minor ore]

well sheer heart attack isn't its own stand but a sub stand ability of killer queen. but uhh if i can only have sheer heart attack i guess i'll still take it over born this way

[minor ore]

tbh i'm not certain

[sinful bramble]

When Jotaro said YOU BASTARD ORA ORA ORA ORA that was my favourite jojo moment

[olive bobcat]

jotaros way better than that bum johnny

[strange hamlet]

cringe ball run

[oak wadi]

When Jotaro said JOTARO OXE CHENG ORA ORA IRA that was my favorite jojo moment

[olive bobcat]

hard

[dim niche]

Head Doc.

[sinful bramble]

Dr Wu is the true head doctor

He never fails

[sinful bramble]

Btw why does it eventually go from Ora to Ira

Now I’m curious

[oak wadi]

I don't know

There's a whole lore behind it

But still no name explanation

Maybe in future arcs

[long parrot]

I don’t get it tbh. He literally started off the entire thing trying to take advantage of Yasuho-

[olive bobcat]

joshu haters got like two arguments

hes the goat

https://tenor.com/view/joshu-joshu-higashikata-jojolion-jojo-nut-king-call-gif-18608309

[minor ore]

What, I can't say nonconsent?

[long parrot]

it’s just hard to like him after reading the first little bit and seeing him do that-

[hard meteor]

that word got banned

[olive bobcat]

yo its metal

[hard meteor]

sup

[long parrot]

He’s definitely comic relief, but it’s hard to like imo

[hard meteor]

fair

[oak wadi]

Based

Not taking advantage of Yasuho

He's based because he's funny

And I actually like him because he entertains me

[long parrot]

It may change as I read, but it’s hard to like as of now with how creepy he is-

I’m very open to changing my opinion but it’s just not my guy rn

[oak wadi]

Understandable

Milagro Man is one of my favorite arcs tho

[long parrot]

That stand was very interesting, I will say

[kind owl]

@long parrot, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[long parrot]

Man I need to talk here more

[sharp bronze]

wish i coul do the same

[kind owl]

@sharp bronze, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[dull chasm]

based

[alpine trench]

I was here

[sinful bramble]

I dislike every part

[strange hamlet]

[minor ore]

Joshu is a really bad person

[sinful bramble]

His heart and actions were utterly unclouded

[minor ore]

I never understood why people quote that line so much

What's the significance

[sinful bramble]

They were more or less Valentine’s last words

[willow dawn]

its a wicked lin

e

[placid swift]

it's because he has no clouds in his heart or actions

can't have moist air in his heart

[minor ore]

Can I have a serious answer please

I'm genuinely lost

[placid swift]

it's because it's a cool line

and it's right before a cool scene

[minor ore]

I kinda doubt that, but if that's what you're gonna go with

[alpine trench]

because his heart and actions were utterly facing an unprecedented amount of harsh weather

[minor ore]

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pool-chill-flamingo-gif-22586025

would you bitch slap this puppy?

[tropic otter]

what's in it for me?

[alpine trench]

Not one, not two

But a THOUSAND LOLLIPOPS

[strange hamlet]

give me the thousand lollipops first...

[alpine trench]

Sorry but that ain't the deal

[tropic otter]

alright

bitch slaps le puppy

[alpine trench]

did you just trade the respect of society for cavities and diabetes?

[tropic otter]

exactly

I'm a psychopath, you should check who you dealing with before making the deal

now where's my lollipops

🍭

[minor ore]

Idk its just a cool line to quote imo

[minor ore]

More or less? They literally were

[untold sleet]

hi

[oak wadi]

She fine tho ngl

[alpine trench]

Hello there

[oak wadi]

Ok

Wall text

[alpine trench]

this is so important that im about to call a mod to see it too

[oak wadi]

Delete

Oh

[placid swift]

damn it was so amazing it vanished

[alpine trench]

Damn titoru you almost saw it

it was so cool

[oak wadi]

This guy fooled us

[placid swift]

yea i had absolutely nothing to do with it

[tame plover]

What is

What is going on

[placid swift]

copypasta

[alpine trench]

you miss it storm

[placid swift]

beeg text wall

[alpine trench]

it was just here

[oak wadi]

Illegal activities

[tame plover]

Woa

[alpine trench]

disappeared without a trace, wonder how

[tame plover]

The Japanese text?

[untold sleet]

why did you think it wouldn't be?

you just copied song lyrics?

[oak wadi]

You committed the worst crime you could have ever commit in this server, you know that?

[alpine trench]

its a cioyoasta

[oak wadi]

I hope you will receive an adequate punishment for your crime

[alpine trench]

pretend i didn't had a stroke

[tame plover]

You broke the Geneva convention of the server

[tame plover]

Hugo you ok?

Can you smell toast

[oak wadi]

Yeah, you literally did something horrible and unforgivable, you know that?

[tame plover]

Is your left arm numb

[alpine trench]

I can touch colors

[placid swift]

he is performing the art of casual trolling

[alpine trench]

this blue is spicy

[brave geyser]

too big

[tame plover]

Shut up blue name, don’t speak unless addressed to

[untold sleet]

it's bad because it's a giant wall of text in a foreign language (this is an english only server)

japanese....

[alpine trench]

WAIT

Abstract you goddamn buffoon

[untold sleet]

everytime someone asks japanese or chinese i think i lose a little faith inside

what

what is it hugo

[alpine trench]

he is about to google translate it and post it again

or maybe not

[oak wadi]

They have different idioms, right?

[untold sleet]

idk about idioms

[oak wadi]

But I know that kanji comes from Chinese language

[untold sleet]

but the main difference is we don't have hiragana or katakana

[oak wadi]

I studied hiragana a bit but I still know jackshit about Japanese. I'll probably study it in the future

[untold sleet]

i'm chinese so maybe that makes it easier for me to tell

[alpine trench]

You have to kill a user of this server

[alpine trench]

it's because of that btw

[brave geyser]

you don't

[alpine trench]

No in a video game. OF COURSE ITS IRL

[brave geyser]

correct

[alpine trench]

You already have a head start

nice

[untold sleet]

😔

[oak wadi]

Japanese kanji is kinda the same as traditional Chinese iirc

[untold sleet]

come on guys

learn to tell apart chinese and japanese

[untold sleet]

ye i learn traditional chinese

[alpine trench]

btw the user must be someone that is a regular in the #general-spoilers

[untold sleet]

though i can guess some simplified

[alpine trench]

I had to find that for myself

[oak wadi]

I mean it's kinda understandable how some people won't get it, they both have almost the same origins and share some similar signs

[alpine trench]

i already killed mine...

you need to find your own victim

like me and Abstract did

[untold sleet]

yeah

[oak wadi]

Also Western culture still isn't ready lol

[alpine trench]

We just ain't

[opal hollow]

gegers — Today at 12:05
can anybody die here and give me the credits
😭

[brave geyser]

just turn the earth around

[untold sleet]

wdym you aren't ready for this?

[oak wadi]

"Why should I learn Asian?" - 👴

[sinful bramble]

Afro-Eurasian

[untold sleet]

learn asian

[alpine trench]

I just saw it

[untold sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[alpine trench]

AHAHAHA

[opal hollow]

He's desperate

[alpine trench]

that's so fucking funny

he is doing the deed

[oak wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-gif-15302685

[alpine trench]

is Asian a language and if its so does it work in all Asians countries including some like Russia

[untold sleet]

unfortunately i don't think asian is a language

[brave geyser]

?

wdyn

[alpine trench]

damn, that's unfortunate

[brave geyser]

its that one with the lines

everyone on the right side of the circle with the countries knows it

[oak wadi]

Japanese is simpler than Arabic I can assure that

[untold sleet]

arabic is

[alpine trench]

European is simpler than all of those

[untold sleet]

japanese is like as simple as breathing compared to arabic from my knowledge of arabic

[oak wadi]

I study Arabic and it's a nightmare

I had to take extra classes

[untold sleet]

who didn't

[oak wadi]

My classmates

I was the only one who had to do that extra shit

[untold sleet]

wacky

a little funny though

[tropic otter]

what does this mean , I've seen this word 738282 times

[untold sleet]

simplified exists because people were illiterate

traditional is too hard

[untold sleet]

uhh

love

[tropic otter]

w h a t

that's what it means

[untold sleet]

i think it's something to do with sadness and pain

depression

:)

[tropic otter]

I see

[opal hollow]

10/10

[untold sleet]

ancient chinese character for wheat...

or something

[alpine trench]

I wasn't ready

[olive bobcat]

I just caught up to jojolion and WOW, great part! But who is this guy? (I skipped all the boring hospital scenes)

[sinful bramble]

He’s Super Mario

[oak wadi]

He's Michael Jackson

[sinful bramble]

Luigi

[placid swift]

imma assume you aren't trolling, but go back and read the hospital scenes

[sinful bramble]

Tables been in this server for a long time lol

He’s trolling you

[alpine trench]

Wow titoru is the one getting trolled

[placid swift]

smh

[alpine trench]

How the Tables have turned

[sinful bramble]

To add insult to injury, Table’s also a somewhat prominent member of the JoJolion server

[oak wadi]

There's a JoJolion server?

[alpine trench]

what do you mean by prominent

[alpine trench]

Composed entirely of seven members

[sinful bramble]

Active and well known

[sinful bramble]

It’s not too active anymore

[alpine trench]

among the seven members that is

ooh that's where the 07 came from

[olive bobcat]

Y'all got tabled

[quiet light]

why am i here

[alpine trench]

because you have yet to be muted

[quiet light]

okay

[carmine flicker]

micheal jordan, professional basketball player

his stand is that he is very tall so he can play basketball well

[olive bobcat]

How does this affect Lebron's legacy?

[carmine flicker]

micheal jordan can use his stand to be very tall

[tropic otter]

wait wrong emoji

[opal hollow]

lmao

[strange hamlet]

bruh

[tropic otter]

sometimes I get confused on who you are because there used to be a member with that exact same pfp

[strange hamlet]

damn

[tropic otter]

yes

[strange hamlet]

Btw thats a cool color

[tropic otter]

I'm a Bluename

[strange hamlet]

A based one

[brave geyser]

could be worse

[tropic otter]

thank you

[tropic otter]

what's worse than a Bluename

[strange hamlet]

Whitename with leaf icon

[tropic otter]

pain

[brave geyser]

lunar purple.

[sharp dune]

💀💀💀

“Im new here, say hi!”

[strange hamlet]

The most terrifying users on Discord

[muted raft]

TURURURURURURURUURURURURURUURU

[sharp dune]

then they whip up with the speedwagon best waifu, pizza mozzarella and the why are we talking about (previous part thing) in (future part chat)

[strange hamlet]

Or they whip out an nsfw pic/video

[sharp dune]

or the swastika

or the foreign language text

[strange hamlet]

Or political stuff

[sharp dune]

Racist shit

[oak wadi]

Or the worst opinion ever known to man

[opal hollow]

Or a GER debate

[sharp dune]

Or the worst take known to mankind

[oak wadi]

I'm so scared of that type of shit that I have the ban button ready everytime someone new joins my server

[strange hamlet]

Damn

[oak wadi]

Most of them say the n word the moment they join

[sharp dune]

Lmao

Yeah it’s scary

[muted raft]

Bruh today was rlly weird. It literally felt like WoU was attacking me. I was in school, walking near some benches and a random pencil pouch falls down at the perfect time. So i step on the pouch and i slip and fall down. Ok that was weird, but then one of my friends threw a paper ball at a fan (for whatever reason) then the paper ball hits the fan and it perfectly hits my nose.

[oak wadi]

If they don't, they're good

[strange hamlet]

Whitenames with leaf icon are that scary

[sharp dune]

ALWAYS THE BLUE NAMES

NAH

We were just talking abt this shit

Lmao

[muted raft]

Rlly? Lol

[strange hamlet]

bruh

[oak wadi]

Why do you have school in the middle of July

[sharp dune]

Wou was really getting you today though

[sharp dune]

I had school a week ago

[oak wadi]

Me too but they were extra classes

Just for me

[sharp dune]

Vacation times differ per country

[oak wadi]

Not normal school

[sharp dune]

My vacation started 3 days ago

[muted raft]

Not just that but exams are starting on 25th 💀

[oak wadi]

Vacations here started in May

[sharp dune]

Actually 5 days

[oak wadi]

And will end in September

[sharp dune]

Mine will end in September but started 5 days ago

[olive bobcat]

blue name is the way

[oak wadi]

Damn

[sharp dune]

You live somewhere where it’s incredibly hot?

[oak wadi]

I hate Summer and vacations

[oak wadi]

South Italy moment

[muted raft]

Why?

I can understand summer

But why vacations?

[oak wadi]

Loneliness

[sharp dune]

I hate summer itself

[oak wadi]

W

[sharp dune]

I hate vacations longer than 2 weeks

[oak wadi]

Summer sucks

[sharp dune]

I like rain. Summer no rain. Me no like summer.

[oak wadi]

I hate every season actually

[muted raft]

I like winter

[sharp dune]

winter is great

Its cold

[oak wadi]

Autumn is probably my fav tho

[strange hamlet]

i like summer :((((

[sharp dune]

poor kite sees everyone roast his favorite season

[muted raft]

Anyone who lives with snowy winters, what is good abt snow and whats bad abt it?

[oak wadi]

I would roast the whole year if I had the chance

[olive bobcat]

everything and nothing

[sharp dune]

I have about 2 days where it snows here in the Netherlands and it’s fun

Except for the sun

[muted raft]

E

[kind owl]

@muted raft, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[muted raft]

Yay

Anyway

[sharp dune]

My skin can’t handle sun that well, I get sunburnt pretty quickly

And snow reflects sun onto everything

[oak wadi]

Same

[formal patio]

!w rolling stones

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Rolling_Stones

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Rolling Stones

Rolling Stones (ローリング・ストーン(ズ), Rōringu Sutōn(zu)) is the Stand of Scolippi featured in the fifth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Vento Aureo.

[sharp dune]

Stones

[formal patio]

shit

i had a good oc idea for them

[muted raft]

!w born this way

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Born_This_Way

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Born This Way

Born This Way (ボーン・ディス・ウェイ, Bōn Disu Wei) is the Stand of Kei Nijimura, featured in the eighth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, JoJolion.

[strange hamlet]

!w planet waves

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Planet_Waves

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Planet Waves

Planet Waves (プラネット・ウェイブス, Puranetto Weibusu) is the Stand granted to Viviano Westwood by Whitesnake, featured in the sixth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series Stone Ocean. Resembling a flayed humanoid, Planet Waves draws small meteorites from space to Westwood, turning them into deadly projectiles against his opponents.

[sharp dune]

💀

[muted raft]

Weibusu??? Lmao

[sharp dune]

Busu busu busu

[strange hamlet]

Puranetto Weibusu

[muted raft]

Bon disu wei

[strange hamlet]

!w survivor

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Survivor

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Survivor

Survivor (サバイバー, Sabaibā) is the Stand granted to Guccio by Whitesnake, featured in the sixth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Stone Ocean. It appears as a group of small Stands that travel through water and increase the aggressiveness of anyone affected by their minute electrical signal.

[strange hamlet]

Sabaiba

[muted raft]

W! Made in heaven

[oak wadi]

!w chocolate disco

[muted raft]

Bruh

!w made in heaven

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Made_in_Heaven

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Made in Heaven

Made in Heaven (メイド・イン・ヘブン, Meido in Hebun) is a Stand belonging to Enrico Pucci, featured in the sixth part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Stone Ocean.

[oak wadi]

!w CHOCOLATE DISCO

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Chocolate_Disco

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Chocolate Disco

Chocolate Disco (チョコレート・ディスコ, Chokorēto Disuko) is the Stand of D-I-S-C-O, featured in the seventh part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Steel Ball Run.

[oak wadi]

Chokoreto Disuko

[muted raft]

Meido in hebun

[oak wadi]

Jotaro oxe cheng ora ora ira

[strange hamlet]

Jotarl

[muted raft]

!w nut king call

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Nut_King_Call

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Nut King Call

Nut King Call (ナット・キング・コール, Natto Kingu Kōru) is the Stand of Joshu Higashikata, featured in the eighth part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, JoJolion. It is a humanoid Stand with a nuts and bolts theme. Its power is to conjure nuts and bolts on objects or people, disassembling and assembling them as if they were mere pieces of a machine.

[muted raft]

Natto kingu koru

[oak wadi]

!w Jotaro oxe cheng ora ora ira

[strange hamlet]

!w california king bed

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/California_King_Bed

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

California King Bed

California King Bed (カリフォルニア・キング・ベッドちゃん, Kariforunia Kingu Beddo-chan) is the Stand of Daiya Higashikata, featured in JoJolion. It can steal and materialize part of someone's memories if they break a rule set by the user.

[oak wadi]

!w jotarl

WHYY

[muted raft]

!w dirty deeds done dirt cheap

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Dirty_Deeds_Done_Dirt_Cheap

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (Dirty deeds done dirt cheap “いともたやすく行われるえげつない行為”)[Note 1] frequently shortened to D4C (D4C(ディー・フォー・シー), Dī Fō Shī), is the Stand of Funny Valentine, featured in the seventh part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Steel Ball Run.

[oak wadi]

!w jotarl

w! Jotaro oxe cheng ora ora ira

[sharp dune]

My WiFi lackin

I can’t do shit

[oak wadi]

Wiki bugging

[muted raft]

Noooo they dont have the "dati deezu dan dato cheep"

[strange hamlet]

dati deezu nutsu

[oak wadi]

Dati deezu oxe cheng ora ora ira

[muted raft]

!w vitamin c

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Vitamin_C

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Vitamin C

Vitamin C (ビタミンC, Bitamin Shī) is the Stand belonging to Tamaki Damo, featured in JoJolion. It is a tentacular Stand with a hand motif. When someone touches the fingerprints it leaves, the victim will be softened to the point of liquefaction as long as they remain within range.

[muted raft]

Bitamin shi

[oak wadi]

Guretto

[strange hamlet]

!w love train

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/D4C_Love_Train
Not the correct result? Use !w page love train for a direct link or !w search love train for a list of all hits.

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

D4C Love Train

D4C Love Train (D4C(ディー・フォー・シー)-ラブトレイン-, Dī Fō Shī -Rabu Torein-) is the evolved form of Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap,[1] featured in the seventh part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Steel Ball Run. It was given to Funny Valentine by the Saint's Corpse.[2]

[oak wadi]

I can'to believo

[strange hamlet]

Rabu torein

[oak wadi]

Fanutasutic

[muted raft]

!w drangons dream

!w dragons dream

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Enter_the_Dragon's_Dream_(story_arc)
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Enter the Dragon's Dream \(story arc\)

Enter the Dragon's Dream (燃えよ竜の夢(ドラゴンズ・ドリーム), Moe yo Doragonzu Dorīmu, lit. "Burn, Dragon's Dream") is the thirteenth story arc in Stone Ocean.

[muted raft]

Bruh

[strange hamlet]

!w dragon dream

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Enter_the_Dragon's_Dream_(story_arc)
Not the correct result? Use !w page dragon dream for a direct link or !w search dragon dream for a list of all hits.

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Enter the Dragon's Dream \(story arc\)

Enter the Dragon's Dream (燃えよ竜の夢(ドラゴンズ・ドリーム), Moe yo Doragonzu Dorīmu, lit. "Burn, Dragon's Dream") is the thirteenth story arc in Stone Ocean.

[oak wadi]

Doragonzu Dorimu

[strange hamlet]

!w Dragon's dream

!w gold experience

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Gold_Experience

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Gold Experience

Gold Experience (ゴールド・エクスペリエンス (黄金体験), Gōrudo Ekusuperiensu) is the Stand of Giorno Giovanna, featured in the fifth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Vento Aureo.

[strange hamlet]

Gorudo ekusuperiensu

[muted raft]

!w gold experience requiem

!w gold experience requiem

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Gold_Experience_Requiem

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Gold Experience Requiem

Gold Experience Requiem (ゴールド・エクスペリエンス・レクイエム, Gōrudo Ekusuperiensu Rekuiemu) is the Requiem Stand of Giorno Giovanna, featured in the fifth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Vento Aureo.

[muted raft]

Gōrudo Ekusuperiensu Rekuiemu)

[strange hamlet]

!w tower of gray

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Tower_of_Gray

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Tower of Gray

Tower of Gray (タワー・オブ・グレー（灰の塔）, Tawā Obu Gurē) is the Stand of Gray Fly featured in the third part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Stardust Crusaders. Specializing in making attacks look like accidents, it takes the form of a giant stag beetle with an extending second jaw and the ability to move at incredibly fast speeds.

[strange hamlet]

Tawa obu gure

[formal patio]

tower of gay

[oak wadi]

Literally me

[sharp dune]

damn

Tower of gay

[minor ore]

She is

[minor ore]

More like tower of G A Y

[oak wadi]

Tower of LGBTQ+ community

[formal patio]

tower of PANSEXUAL?

TRANSGENDER platinum?

LESBIAN girl? (spice girl)

SO YOU THINK YOU CAN STOP ME AND SPIT IN MY EYE

SO YOU THINK YOU CAN LOVE ME AND LEAVE ME TO DIIIEEEE

[carmine flicker]

the LIBERAL? heirophant QUEER? magicians BI?

[formal patio]

You got the joke!

[carmine flicker]

?

[formal patio]

oh

well nvm

it took me an uncomfortably long time to realize that the little boy from sbr is the kid from bohemian rhapsody

or at least heavily inspired by

[placid swift]

what

[formal patio]

the kid gyro was gonna get an amnesty to release

[hard meteor]

hows that kid connected to bohemian rhapsody

[oak wadi]

There aren't any kids in Bohemian Rhapsody MV

[sinful bramble]

If you say so

[formal patio]

not the movie

the song

about the kid on death sentence

[oak wadi]

🤨

[sacred dove]

What do y'all think is the worst stand in jojolion I say california king bed

[bleak magnet]

explain

what do you mean by worst

[sinful bramble]

Worst as in weakest, least powerful, ugliest, most forgettable, or overall least favourite?

[oak wadi]

Worst

[bleak magnet]

oh ok

[quiet light]

Cheap trick

[bleak magnet]

in jojolion

[brave geyser]

ckb cause dieya owns it

[sinful bramble]

^

[quiet light]

ooooh

[brave geyser]

also its ass

but mostly cause she owns it

[sinful bramble]

Araki forgot to kill off Daiya

[sacred dove]

Its pretty useless tho I guess it could be useful for torture

[sinful bramble]

“You wanted me to kill Daiya? I thought you said Kei uh!”

[sharp dune]

Ain’t no way

[quiet light]

jojolion out of context-

[quiet light]

AINT NO WAY\

[bleak magnet]

#memes-and-images

[sinful bramble]

Uno if it could brainwash children

[bleak magnet]

unless this is somehow related to jojolion

[sharp dune]

Its not a meme

[bleak magnet]

its an image

[sharp dune]

its related to jojo

[sinful bramble]

But it is an image

[sacred dove]

Litteraly a mid anime is in this card talking demon slayer yo

[sharp dune]

AYO THEY GOT THE SINGLES

[quiet light]

tokyo ghoul

[sharp dune]

Those jojo singles are rare

[sinful bramble]

I don’t see JoJolion in this image!!

Irrelevant

[sacred dove]

How durable is born this way?

[sharp dune]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-aughhh-gif-24532719

[oak wadi]

Buy

[quiet light]

ahem...

[sinful bramble]

It can tank at least one slap

No copypastas

[quiet light]

okay

[oak wadi]

My name is Yoshikage Kira...

[sacred dove]

It can tank soft and wet but the helmet broke

[sinful bramble]

No roleplay

[oak wadi]

...I am 33 years old...

[sinful bramble]

Banned for being old

Do you need a walking stick

Also

[sharp dune]

Lmao

[oak wadi]

...I live in northeast section of Morioh Cho...

[sinful bramble]

You should change your name from waifu pop to widow pop

Because you’re so old

[sharp dune]

…I have a large cock…

[oak wadi]

I never got bitches therefore I can't be a widow

[quiet light]

Killer queen has already touched that ass

[sharp dune]

Kira said it

No cap

[sacred dove]

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsszYp4Y1PFYhACcOtzLOqjWDJlI

[brave geyser]

pmk truly is the strongest stand

[sinful bramble]

Phrog Moon King

[brave geyser]

no other ability could make as many people hate joshu

[sinful bramble]

Tsurugi wanted to make Joshu get hate, so he’d receive less hate in turn

[oak wadi]

You confused S&W

[brave geyser]

no

[sinful bramble]

That’s what I said in #jojo-overall-discussion

[brave geyser]

josefumis is stronger

show me josukes taking pepper out of ramen when there's too much

[placid swift]

bruh why paisley so low

[sinful bramble]

Show me Josefumi’s taking a cat’s fur

[olive bobcat]

real ones know doobie wah is goated

[brave geyser]

why would he need to do that

only weak stands do that

strong stands only need to make good ramen

[sinful bramble]

Legend has it, Josefumi cares about ramen more than he cares about Kira

[minor ore]

i do

[sacred dove]

Idc, like I know now but I just dont care just see the A s&w as normal while s has the spin and go beyond

[sacred dove]

Doobie wah indestructibility is genuine but it not as good as u say it is

[sacred dove]

Cause its not that good in a fighting sense

[minor ore]

paisely is s tier

[oak wadi]

No

Cope

[placid swift]

who cares about fighting

imagine all the atms you can shoot money out of

[bleak magnet]

then buy all the world's nukes

now you can fight

[placid swift]

just detonate them whenever you want

[minor ore]

the sun is actually an s tier stand

[bleak magnet]

fr no cap

[minor ore]

no kizzy?

[sacred dove]

Actually true

No joke

[minor ore]

yeah man

imagine it with green day or grateful dead

[sacred dove]

Strength too

[bleak magnet]

green day especially
heat rises up, so people will move down

[minor ore]

i dont agree

[sacred dove]

Why its a giant near indestructable ship that can be fully controled and phased into and protect u better than any stand can

[minor ore]

but only in water

[sacred dove]

Still that damn strong af

[minor ore]

not really

[sacred dove]

Also im pretty stregth could travel on land

[minor ore]

nah i disagree

[sacred dove]

Why not wheel of fortune was able to transform completely and climb on mountains why can strength travel on land

[sacred dove]

Aside from being in water how it not strong

[minor ore]

its a dumb boat

[minor ore]

wof and strength have like 1 similarity which is being bound to a vehicle

man superfly and strength are the same stand they are bound to metal

[sacred dove]

And that could lead to other similarities

[kind owl]

@sacred dove, Your Stand Rank is now level 12 !

[minor ore]

but it is never demonstrated

merely speculation

[sacred dove]

Whatever just explain to me aside from water how strength isnt that strong

[minor ore]

its literally a boa

t

[sacred dove]

Thats doesnt explain shit

[sacred dove]

Its literally like I said like come on

[minor ore]

it clearly does

it is a bote therefore it dumb

[bleak magnet]

are you seriously arguing

over if a boat is strong

💀

[sacred dove]

D4cz u clearly dont understand what were talking about strength isnt some fucking boat its a powerful giant ship that even star platinum cant destroy that the user himself has full control over anything it does

And can phase in it as well

[minor ore]

its a boat

i can name like 4 better boats

[sacred dove]

None of u have a counter argument other than its a boat and it can only be on water

Im done with this

[minor ore]

i got a nice counter argument

frewzgham

[crisp vigil]

strength when the iceberg approaches

🤯

[minor ore]

strength when forever gets the black spot and gets sent to davy jones' locker

[bleak magnet]

and... that's meant to be strong?

[dusk pollen]

я негр

[minor ore]

we dont tolerate that here mate

[sacred dove]

Star platinum couldnt break out of it pretty sure it can survive an iceberg

[minor ore]

FUCKEN DELETE YUR MESSAGE U LOUSY CARNT

[minor ore]

i dont think so

[sacred dove]

Why not

[minor ore]

my brain is saying no

[crisp vigil]

welcome to 213 joke avenue may i take your coat

[minor ore]

Strength wouldn't survive an attack from the kraken

[sacred dove]

No but u may take my oversized hat good sir

[minor ore]

flying dutchman solos

[bleak magnet]

any boat solos

[sacred dove]

Y'all memers hehe

[minor ore]

flying dutchman >

[sacred dove]

Pretty sure flying dutchman can solo almost all of them

[minor ore]

yeah exactly

so ur puny wimpy boat isnt as powerful as you thought

[sacred dove]

Well neither are the stands of jojo

[minor ore]

cool

neither am i

[sacred dove]

I mean ur talking about the flying dutchmen one of the most powerful ghosts in ancient sea tales

[minor ore]

gets outran by the black pearl

[sinful bramble]

*Fookin

[minor ore]

my bad

[tame plover]

fuckk you whoever I was having an argument with

ALL of his bubbles are lines

Also if the lines reach thinness of (near) 0 they will exist only as the spin energy

better translation

[hard meteor]

i mean yeah i never denied they were lines i just said go beyond bypasses logic with spin energy, which is stated directly "this spin surpasses all logic in this world"

[kind owl]

@hard meteor, Your Stand Rank is now level 15 !

[tame plover]

I am not saying you are

just remember talking with someone and they said only go beyond was lines

woa green metal

[bleak magnet]

environmentally friendly metal

[tame plover]

dang

[untold sleet]

using my screenshot

[tame plover]

nah your screenshot is crappy

mostly a reminder of the page

so found a better translation

[untold sleet]

this traslation is better https://static.jojowiki.com/images/5/5a/latest/20210916161531/JJL_Chapter_108_Tailpiece.png

trust

[tame plover]

not a translation

unless it's chinese

don't flame me

ah

[untold sleet]

it’s a translation of the english version

[tame plover]

aa

[woven anvil]

@untold sleet has been muted
Reason: An Unspecified Reason

Abstract Mayhem .-.#2878 has been unmuted

[untold sleet]

well now i’ll say it more aggressively

[untold sleet]

i will SLAP you with feng shui

very mean

[tame plover]

I am allowed

[untold sleet]

no it is japanese

[tame plover]

I have an asshole certificate

[bleak magnet]

can i have one

[tame plover]

it's a package deal with cringe crimson

so no

[bleak magnet]

damn what else is in the package

[tame plover]

1 free pin

and one request every other week to mute someone

[bleak magnet]

oooh

can I mute you

[woven anvil]

@bleak magnet has been muted
Reason: no

d4cz#9994 has been unmuted

[bleak magnet]

you did my request to mute somebody

[untold sleet]

damn i couldn’t find a chinese translation of that page lmao

[thorny coral]

imagine if yasuho and joshu did fuse together like joshu thought they would when they used the new locacaca

[sacred dove]

which stand u think is better doobie wah or born this way

[thorny coral]

theyre basically the same thing

doobie wah is more deadly i guess

[sacred dove]

Eh I say born this way is better

[honest onyx]

Jojolion soo cool

[sacred dove]

doobie wah struggled at killing yashuo and a kid

[opal hollow]

True (I haven't read it)

[hard meteor]

@honest onyx you can ask in here

[honest onyx]

Bro jojolion is part 8 and sbr in part 7 i aint dumb

[hard meteor]

Yeah but johnnys semi important in part 8

[honest onyx]

How?

[hard meteor]

Don’t want to say to much but he’s tied to the main story

[honest onyx]

Alr

[kind owl]

@honest onyx, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[quaint imp]

Bruh JoJo fans call themselves JoJo fans but haven't actually read all of JoJo yet smh

[honest onyx]

Damn bro got destroyed by jojolion

[opal hollow]

I'm too lazy to give a shit about Jojo manga

[quaint imp]

Even though 6,7, and 8 are the best parts

[opal hollow]

I've read 6 and 7

Cba to read 8

[quaint imp]

Why'd you say you're too lazy to give a shit about the manga though?

You could've just said you don't give a shit about Jojolion and Part 9

[opal hollow]

True

[median fable]

just finished jojolion yesterday, I wanna cry I loved tooru

[olive bobcat]

W opinion

[uncut hearth]

I’ve finished jojolion yesterday I loved tooru

[oak wadi]

I've finished JoJolion one year ago I hated Tooru

[uncut hearth]

Based opinion

[oak wadi]

I know

[light swift]

Tooru more like touhou

[sinful bramble]

I caught up with JoJolion in February 2021 and finished it in August 2021 I thought Tooru was ok

[minor ore]

Hes not a good antagonist

At least he entertaining tho

[median fable]

I do not agree with you, but, that is your opinion which I do respect. Jolyne trash protagonist though

[strange hamlet]

imo the best thing about tooru is his stand

[minor ore]

Why is jolyne a trash protagonist?

[median fable]

cuz no pee pee.

[minor ore]

L

[median fable]

u got "he / him" in ur bio and type L?

change ur pronounces to "father / less"

[oak wadi]

🤨

[hard meteor]

Average tooru fan

[strange hamlet]

fr

[median fable]

yall chill it was just a jojo reference

[kind owl]

@median fable, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[oak wadi]

Me kicking you in the balls is a JoJo reference 😳 😳

[median fable]

ill burn ur dog

[oak wadi]

Average JoJo fan

[median fable]

true

[minor ore]

JOJO lion mid 🤷🏾‍♂️

[olive bobcat]

Bro really came in here with the worst pfp known to man and said that

[strange hamlet]

Lmao

that pfp tho

[light swift]

Chinticles

[sweet dune]

average mid ball run fan

[minor ore]

You mean stone Wocean

[sweet dune]

Wocean?

[light swift]

wumbo

[minor ore]

Lagent

Lsalad

[light swift]

How could you say this

This man must be trapped

He's spittin too much

[alpine trench]

He likes Lmusic

[minor ore]

He has Ltaste

[alpine trench]

I have WEars

[minor ore]

But Lsense

[sweet dune]

i have Widney Stones

[tropic otter]

I Will LJoshuphobes

[minor ore]

I have a Spenis

[sacred dove]

Doobie mid

[strange hamlet]

do be mid

[sacred dove]

Doobie wah do be mid damn thats impressive

[past radish]

doobie wah was cool

but literally nobody remembers it

i think it's candidate for most forgotten stand

[olive bobcat]

I remember it

Goated arc

Aisho got dunked on by a bus

[past radish]

yeah

Honestly it's a really strong stand

if you dont have an incentive to return to the victim

you can just plant it and eventually they'll die to it

the range is like indefinite

[strange hamlet]

its a good arc

[sacred dove]

Rlly strong but I wouldnt want it I would rather be standless

[quaint imp]

I'm not sure how you could even use Doobie Wah outside of fighting

[minor ore]

I liked it

[past radish]

me too

[minor ore]

Its definitely not forgettable

[sacred dove]

Doobie wah is intresting cause it is perfect for aisho

[minor ore]

Tubular bells up there with most forgettable stands tho

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 27 !

[lusty rampart]

Tubular bells is iconic to me

[past radish]

I dont personally find it forgettable, but I just think that it's one of the most forgotten.

[elfin horizon]

jojolion is the best jojo part.

[tropic otter]

https://c.tenor.com/dzoYWrZ74ygAAAAM/mgrr-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-armstrong-raiden-handshake.gif

[eager gorge]

@elfin horizon here

!w wou

[elfin horizon]

anyways you just proved my point.

[eager gorge]

!w wonder of you

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Wonder_of_U
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JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Wonder of U

Wonder of U (ワンダー・オブ・U(ユー), Wandā Obu Yū) is the Stand of Toru featured in the eighth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, JoJolion, and introduced in the "The Wonder of You" story arc.

[eager gorge]

pog i found it

WHY TF IS WOU ON MY SCREEN

[eager gorge]

i already read that xd

manipulate

[elfin horizon]

therefor it is an action of a person or stand.

[eager gorge]

Tooru doesn't really use it as a direct attack tho

it just protects him

i actually like u xd

u smort

[elfin horizon]

it is still an attack from a user with the intention of getting rid of those who are after the identidy of the head doctor.

[lucid locust]

Who says it needs to be a direct attack?

[elfin horizon]

thanks.

[elfin horizon]

ger.

[eager gorge]

ye

[lucid locust]

Where

[eager gorge]

ger can't stop heart attacks or something random

indirect

[elfin horizon]

the litteral ability of ger is the intent of undo a direct action to protect the user.

[lucid locust]

Heart attack and calamity are very different things

Heart attack isn’t an attack at all

[eager gorge]

calamity is logic

[elfin horizon]

read heart attack slowly.

[lucid locust]

No one is attacking, just cause it’s called that doesn’t mean it is one

[eager gorge]

XD

something is harming giorno

"attack"

[lucid locust]

Like calling a strawberry a berry

[elfin horizon]

if there a cause to the heart attack then ger can undo it.

[eager gorge]

strawberries are not berries

[elfin horizon]

if someone is directly causing it.

[lucid locust]

Yeah, I’m agreeing that a heart attack isn’t reversible by Giorno

But Calamity could be

[eager gorge]

would calamity by itself be reverted by giorno

[lucid locust]

Calamities attacks might be

We can’t know

[elfin horizon]

if there is a trace/line from the calamity to the user like wonder of u.

[eager gorge]

isn't WoU sentient?

[lucid locust]

That too, but i mean regardless of Wonder Of U

[elfin horizon]

calamity > wonder of u > toru. ger can negate it.

[kind owl]

@elfin horizon, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

[eager gorge]

ask arak moment

[lucid locust]

Cause who’s to say RTZ can’t revert the will of the universe

We can’t know

[elfin horizon]

if wonder of u isn't controlling calamity and giorno so happens to fall down the stair and crack his neck he will die.

[eager gorge]

ger can revert a universe reseting

so i guess also the will?

[elfin horizon]

but the universe resetting was controlled by a person tho.

[eager gorge]

wait

would the universe be considered a person cuz it has its own will?

Tooru ain't really controlling it

[elfin horizon]

no, it needs a soul or soul energy.

wonder of u is made of stand energy aka soul energy.

[eager gorge]

is the universe protecting Tooru or is Tooru making the universe protect him

possibly the second one

it did say manipulate

[brave geyser]

second

[elfin horizon]

wonder of u is protecting tooru via the universe.

[brave geyser]

without wou none of the stuff would happen

[elfin horizon]

tbh.

tooru would get caught, and merc'd.

wonder of u was litterally a trump card/deus ex machina for him for a short while.

[eager gorge]

how would ger even get close to Tooru?

[elfin horizon]

negating wonder of u.

ez clap.

[eager gorge]

ger gets closer to Tooru by reverting his attacks?

[opal hollow]

And what happens when Calamity hits him again?

[eager gorge]

WoU is a really long range stand tho

[elfin horizon]

by reverting the focused/controlled calamity yes.

[opal hollow]

Boom same thing and he gets nowhere

[elfin horizon]

doesn't matter as long as it is effecting giorno.

[eager gorge]

ger would have to find Tooru

like does ger teleport to place Tooru is in by reverting the calamitys

idk too confusing

[brave geyser]

rtz doesn’t move ger

[eager gorge]

why tf is there WoU on my screen bruh

[elfin horizon]

no sort of just rewinding time, as more calamity happens. it is annoying but through spamming it works.

[elfin horizon]

think like okuyasu and you be fine.

[eager gorge]

i'mma close the WoU tab

still ain't gone wtf

[elfin horizon]

which okuyasu can easily clap wou's cheeks too.

[eager gorge]

does RTZ have a cooldown?

[eager gorge]

wdym which

[elfin horizon]

okuyasu is empty headed and in order for wonder of u's ability to work, you need to have intentions to harm or find wonder of u or tooru. i imagine okuyasu would bump into tooru by accident and accidently erase him.

[eager gorge]

xd

we will leave this debate as a tie i guess?

too tired to continue

[elfin horizon]

yeah, due to lack of information, through their is a case for both sides.

[thorny coral]

when

[eager gorge]

Part 6 if Giorno didn't give the arrow to polnareff

[tame plover]

what

universe reset isn't an attack anyways

doesn't harm giorno in any way

[brave geyser]

the universe reset doesn’t hurt anyone

the entire point of it is not to hurt people

[minor ore]

Why do you respect his opinion? You have no reason to. Fight for your side. Explain why he should care

[tame plover]

why you don't like jolyne

[oak wadi]

"I don't like Jolyne because she's uh a woman and she uh lost so she weak" 🤓

[elfin horizon]

well it is to erase the joestar blood line or at least replace them so it does sort of threatens erasing giorno.

[tame plover]

no??

Killing the joestars is unrelated to the heaven plan

Pucci wants to kill them so they don't become a threat to heaven

heaven is a world where everybody knows their fate (and ideally according to DIO and Pucci) they accept it and get inner peace

[elfin horizon]

they were not allowed into heaven, pucci said so himself. heaven being the new universe therefore the original joestars are killed and replaced with dopplegangers.

[tame plover]

anybody that dies before the heaven plan is finished gets replaced

[elfin horizon]

except for the joestars.

[tame plover]

and it's not a literal "joestars can't make it to heaven" it's pucci saying that he won't allow them

[tame plover]

??

jolyne and jotaro die before the heaven plan and get replaced

[elfin horizon]

yeah, but he is able to retcon a lot of stuff even to joestar family tree, so what is to say he changed them too and others.

[tame plover]

what?

retcon stuff?

[elfin horizon]

yeah.

[tame plover]

the fuck do you mean?

All he does is kill them and the universe creates copies that follow their fate

[elfin horizon]

they showed a book in a panel where the blood line is different.

[tame plover]

where?

wait... do you mean the bloodline in jojolion?

mfer 1-6 and 7-8 are not connected at all

Not the same continuity nor canon

unrelated stories that happened to be told by the same author

[elfin horizon]

no i remembered it but i cant find it but another example would be name changes, if everything is supposed to be a copy, why are names different in the third / new new universe?

[tame plover]

because they are replacements

they also have slightly different appearance

like jolyne have 3 of her hair thingies instead of 2

or just their faces looking wrong

wait wait wait

they don't even change names?

[elfin horizon]

yeah.

they do.

[tame plover]

yea they don't in heaven

only appearances

[elfin horizon]

jolyne becomes irene.

[tame plover]

that's not heaven

That's the universe where pucci never existed

did you read stone ocean?

Emporio kills Pucci and the timeline resets

everything is the same except pucci never existed

and via butterfly effect all the changes that happened, happened

[elfin horizon]

yes i did, but still if it can alter stuff like that, who is to say the joestar bloodline can be replaced by dopple gangers.

[kind owl]

@plain knot, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[tame plover]

#your-works

[tame plover]

what?

This isn't heaven

nobody is replaced by anybody

[plain knot]

oh sorry

[tame plover]

only in heaven do people get replaced because they died before heaven

[elfin horizon]

pucci carry people to the new universe that is how they remember, but since joestar bloodline are rejected what happens to them?

remember too that pucci knows about josuke, joseph, and giorno.

[tame plover]

????

[elfin horizon]

it is litterally how it is depicted in manga.

[tame plover]

no it isn't?

[elfin horizon]

yes it is!

[tame plover]

where is your proof?

Where does pucci say "the heaven universe won't let any joestar enter!"

because that's not how it works

all pucci does is accelerate the universe and kill off any threats to his heavne

[oak wadi]

They get ratioed + Jotaro oxe cheng ora ora ira

[tame plover]

why would he know or care about josuke and giorno

[tame plover]

I hope your sticker makes it in 🙏

[tame plover]

Jotaro oxe cheng ora ora ira

[oak wadi]

Yes

I agree

[elfin horizon]

jotaro memory disc.

[tame plover]

he only used it for seeing the contents of DIO's diary, an event taking place years before parts 4 and 5

[elfin horizon]

what?

[tame plover]

Yea all living beings are not affected by time acceleration and as long as they don't die they go to heaven

[elfin horizon]

the diary was destroyed!

[tame plover]

yea... that's why he used jotaro's memory disc to see the contents of it..

because Jotaro is the only alive person to have read it

bro you honestly need to go re-read stone ocean

[elfin horizon]

yeah, so what is to say he hasn't seen other contents like potential threats?

[tame plover]

that is such a bassic plot point

[tame plover]

josuke and giorno aren't potential threats and why would he see years of memories to get to them?

all he cares is for the plans to get to heaven

[tame plover]

also this doesn't prove your claim that all joestars aren't allowed to make it to heaven wether they are alive or not

[elfin horizon]

well back to the original topic of ger being effected by mih, is still ger can just undo it. other than the initial way, 2nd is being ger can change fate or any fate that harms him so lets say he resets the universe to try to kill giorno because it is fated, but giorno has ger that can change fate. since this is also jojolion i would like to add the fact soft and wet go beyond can also negate negative effects of mih.

[tame plover]

So I assume you weren't able to find any proof of your false statements and so want to divert the topic?

[tame plover]

If mih were a threat to giorno ger would revert it so it isn't so ger won't revert it. What exactly do you mean s&w gb can negate the effects of mih???

[elfin horizon]

well again back to the whole let's say reset the universe to catch them off guard and kill him as fated. soft and wet uses spin which helps it cross any barrier. this is too assumption but i like to think it can cross the barrier into the new universe to hit the target, as the bubble is made to do. it would be like litterally nothing happened as it can kill pucci. (think of the invinicible snail scenerio except the snail is invisible and you don't know it's existance.)

take it with a grain of salt though.

[tame plover]

and again you divert the topic that was at hand, incredible.

Also go beyond is extremely innacurate so it's close to impossible that Josuke would land a hit like that

also josuke should still be able to shoot it in heaven

we see emporio do actions he didn't perform originally but he is still dragged because of his fate

the fate in heaven isn't extremely detailed, it's about the important stuff

Emporio was fated to go down the stairs and into the ghost room

wether he walks down the stairs or falls doesn't matter