jojolion

[crisp vigil]

#jojo-overall-discussion message

[minor ore]

you literaly said youd fuck mold smores idk what to say

[copper orchid]

I JUST READ THE CH NAME, SOFT AND WET BRUH

[tame plover]

Lmao

[alpine trench]

Say you will join

[sonic hollow]

smores keeps changing their name and pfp i can never tell who it is

[copper orchid]

ALOS TF IS THIS PART, ITS SO FUCKIN BIZZARE

[tame plover]

Nah

[sonic hollow]

i thought that was titoru

[ornate fiber]

NO

[copper orchid]

yo outcast

[ornate fiber]

why does everyone eventually find out

WANTED TO DISGUISE

[sonic hollow]

username

[alpine trench]

WHAT SMORES

[ornate fiber]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[alpine trench]

THE EMOTE

[ornate fiber]

huh

[tame plover]

Smores ite so obvious lol

[crisp vigil]

Smores is notoriously known for something extra in username

[alpine trench]

I honestly didn't realize it was him

[minor ore]

you have an aura

[ornate fiber]

BAD AURA

[ornate fiber]

i-

[alpine trench]

I tought he was the other berries

[sonic hollow]

doxxed

[ornate fiber]

LMAO

[tame plover]

Maybe I should try to hide myself

I’ll last longer

[minor ore]

do it

[alpine trench]

what

[sonic hollow]

SMORES I SAW THAT

[tame plover]

@ornate fiber YOU WHAT

[ornate fiber]

[alpine trench]

Sneaky smores

[minor ore]

[copper orchid]

UMM YOU'RE LITERALLY LEAKIN WATER, LADY

WTF

[tame plover]

https://tenor.com/view/bongocat-banhammer-ban-hammer-bongo-gif-18219363

[ornate fiber]

okay chat i am disappearing

[copper orchid]

IS THS JOJO'S STANDO??

[alpine trench]

BEGONE

[minor ore]

what did smores say

[ornate fiber]

STFU U PURGED THE CHAT TO COVER UR BALL SACK QUIZZING ASS

[crisp vigil]

Bye berries love you 💛💛

[tame plover]

NO I DIDN’T IT WAS GOING TO FAR

I EVEN KEPT THE QUIZ

[placid swift]

what goin on here

[sonic hollow]

hell

[copper orchid]

War

[minor ore]

balls and mold

[sonic hollow]

thats a combination

[sonic hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-5000k-gif-20880260

[minor ore]

lackin shm my head

😳

[tame plover]

L

[copper orchid]

wait then who tf was she calling "joshu hisgashikata" or whtvr??!?!

WHAAT

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[minor ore]

[sonic hollow]

guy with yeye ass haircut

[sonic hollow]

^this guy

[copper orchid]

also KIRA?!

[sonic hollow]

no

[minor ore]

keep reading

[sonic hollow]

why would you show him who kira is than tell him to keep reading

[placid swift]

shhhhhh don't tell him

[tame plover]

Stoopid

[crisp vigil]

STORM

[sonic hollow]

smh ripple.

[tame plover]

What?

[crisp vigil]

[minor ore]

im not very smart ok

[tame plover]

I jus ruses emoji

Dumb dum

[placid swift]

[ornate fiber]

OOP

[sonic hollow]

dumy

[tame plover]

Smores is mold sexual.. my final message, goodbye world

[minor ore]

😔

[eager jacinth]

jojo's lion:

[sonic hollow]

pinnacle of comedy

[minor ore]

"laugh"

[glacial tulip]

[sonic hollow]

me looking for the funny

[eager jacinth]

(there is none 😳)

[glacial tulip]

Watch oingo boingo bro ep ig

[eager jacinth]

so wait did soft and wet take away the skin from the lady or the water (i forgor 💀)

[glacial tulip]

[hard meteor]

i dont think it took away any of her skin

[sonic hollow]

water

[copper orchid]

Bruh I've never been this confused at a JoJo part before....

[sonic hollow]

yasuho is just naming him after her dog

[eager jacinth]

yeah

[glacial tulip]

Indirectly yasuho saying to josuke that he is a dog

[eager jacinth]

its not that complicated i dont think

[sonic hollow]

since he has amnesia and cant remember his name

[copper orchid]

I thought Gappy was just the stand in for Josuke (p4)

[glacial tulip]

Eh?

[copper orchid]

and that the dude was literally a "joestar" not some random ass girls' dogs name

[sonic hollow]

gappy's a nickname for him to differentiate him from josuke from DiU

[minor ore]

its a fan nicknamw

[glacial tulip]

Hmmm

I am more confortable is josuke 8

More than gappy

[eager jacinth]

he was never called gappy in the manga iirc'

[sonic hollow]

he has a gap in his teeth. hence the fan nickname

[glacial tulip]

Ig

[copper orchid]

I knew that, I just thought his actual name was Josuke...

[minor ore]

^

[minor ore]

it is

[eager jacinth]

but i prefer to call him gappy anyway

[hard meteor]

his name is josuke

[rugged sun]

His name is josuke

Yasuho gave him that name and it is his identity

[minor ore]

hamon beat pfp

[rugged sun]

Yoshikage Kira pfp*

[glacial tulip]

I dont like gappy nickname

[glacial tulip]

Dead man's question

[minor ore]

dmq is overrated

[sonic hollow]

no one's forcing you to use it

[glacial tulip]

Its underratted

[sonic hollow]

DMQ is good but some people treat it like its the bible or something

[glacial tulip]

Just saying my opinion bro

[minor ore]

cope

[copper orchid]

Yeah but itisnt like his name...

[west plinth]

Does Josuke Parf 8 have balls too

Spinning

[rugged sun]

Ok then what is his name

[sonic hollow]

cope

[copper orchid]

idk, someone else named him

[glacial tulip]

[minor ore]

josuke is his name

[copper orchid]

imeant likebirthrightjoestarshit

[sonic hollow]

what?

[kind owl]

@sonic hollow, Your Stand Rank is now level 32 !

[minor ore]

read

[sonic hollow]

shut up bot

[minor ore]

🤓

[sonic hollow]

^ fr fr

[hard meteor]

wdym birthright

[glacial tulip]

[rugged sun]

Yasuho gave him the name Josuke. He was born with no memories and no real identity. He took the name yasuho gave him and that became who he is

[hard meteor]

^

[rugged sun]

He doesn’t have a birthright name, because he was born with no name

[glacial tulip]

What about ||kirafumi||

[west plinth]

JoJo Part 9

[minor ore]

pls no

[glacial tulip]

Havent reveal anything yet

[west plinth]

…

[alpine trench]

worst part tbh

[sonic hollow]

pretty mid tbh

[rugged sun]

They are dead

[glacial tulip]

Worse than part 5

[hard meteor]

pretty bad tbh

[glacial tulip]

Becuz of them josuke born

[copper orchid]

so he actually like isnt the "stand-in" for Josuke 4 just some random other new joestar kid we never "met" before like Dio=Diego

I just assumed Josuke4=Gappy

[sonic hollow]

yes

his name is just a reference.

[glacial tulip]

Bruh no

They call josuke 8 as gappy

Lol

Have u watched or read all jojo parts r part skipper

[sonic hollow]

he's reading part 8 rn

and im gonna guess he's read the rest

[glacial tulip]

Oh

[glacial tulip]

Ya lol

[copper orchid]

Yeah lol

[copper orchid]

No no I meant like i thought that If Diego="Dio" then Gappy="Josuke4"

[copper orchid]

ah ok. I think I understand, I've decided to just re-read JJL tomorrow morning

[sonic hollow]

all names in part 7 and 8 are just references

no alternate variations and some other shit some people like to spread around

[copper orchid]

ohhh alright, thanks for clearing up my confusion

[crimson ice]

Where was the lion?

[sonic hollow]

you're not funny

[brave geyser]

hey it's important

we need at least one per day

[eager jacinth]

true

[copper orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-this-is-weird-but-i-like-it-enjoy-enjoyable-gif-4618850

[cedar abyss]

so i have a question that ive been pondering for way too fucking long
since part 7 is just part 1 in the other universe, is part 8 part 4 in the other universe? and if we get part 2 in the other universe, should i watch SBR, (part 2 counterpart and the ones leading up to JoJolion) then JoJolion for the chronological order?

[minor ore]

any bews

[minor ore]

sbr isnt "part 1 in the new universe" and jjl isnt "part 4". just read sbr then jojolion as intended

[sonic hollow]

Well 1 you’re wrong about part 7 being part 1 and part 8 being part 4, and 2 read it from sbr

[cedar abyss]

ik their not direct remakes, but do you still get what i mean

[sonic hollow]

No

[minor ore]

yes and youre wrong

[sonic hollow]

They’re there own thing

Sbr reboots the series in a new continuity

[cedar abyss]

cool so you dont get what i mean, to make it easier, what times do JoJolion and SBR take place

[sonic hollow]

Read sbr first

Sbr takes place in 1890

Jjl is in 2011

[minor ore]

sbr takes place in like the 1800s and jjl takes place in like 2011

[cedar abyss]

exactly, so if i want to read them in chronological order, shouldnt i wait untill the part 2 counterpart

[minor ore]

what

[sonic hollow]

What part 2 counterpart

What the fuck are you talking about

[minor ore]

ong

[cedar abyss]

omfg

[minor ore]

just read bro 💀

[cedar abyss]

gimme a sec i gotta figure out how to explain it

[sonic hollow]

What is there to explain

[minor ore]

i know what youre talking about, youre wrong

[sonic hollow]

Just read SBR and then JJL

[copper orchid]

@sonic hollow Have u finised JJL?

[sonic hollow]

yes

[copper orchid]

k imma dm u, alr?

[tulip bolt]

hello*

[cedar abyss]

wtf do you mean im wrong im not saying anything that isnt a question

[minor ore]

you keep implying that there are counterparts

[sonic hollow]

Cause you think SBR verse parts are counterparts to previous parts and thats incorrect

[sonic hollow]

Ok?

[minor ore]

sbr and jojolion have nothing to do with part 1-6

[lusty rampart]

Part 7 contains references to Parts 1, 2, 3
JJL contains references to parts 3, 4, 5, 6 (and joseph at the end lul)

[minor ore]

so

[tulip bolt]

oh god part 7 and 8 are not related to previous part

[lusty rampart]

there are no straight counterparts

[minor ore]

exactly

[cedar abyss]

so you know how sbr has all the part 1 character but sorta different? like johnny joestar - jonathan, diego brando - dio brando, and how JoJolion literally has josuke, im seeing it as sbr being on equal as phantom blood, and jojolion as diu, apparently neither of you are understanding what im trying to say, and instead of figuring it out you just say (your just rong bro 💀 )

[minor ore]

im laughing at how stupid you are

[cedar abyss]

holy fucking shit

[sonic hollow]

We are fully understanding what you’re saying. Those are just references

[minor ore]

outcast hes not even worth it

[cedar abyss]

wdym their references?

[minor ore]

[cedar abyss]

so they just have similar names for no reason

[minor ore]

yep

[lusty rampart]

no, the reason is a reference

[sonic hollow]

Uh huh

[tulip bolt]

references to previous part bruh you're trolling

[lusty rampart]

there isnt a part 2 counterpart for you to see, because SBR is already a part 1 & 2 counterpart

[cedar abyss]

im not trolling, i know nothing about sbr or jojolion, i dont read manga and i tried to research it and i cant find shit

[tulip bolt]

also 3

[sonic hollow]

Oh god why are you fueling the fire

[lusty rampart]

yeah at the end only imo

[minor ore]

yall

[tulip bolt]

no remember avdol on a camel

[minor ore]

im fucking done

[lusty rampart]

that too lul

[lusty rampart]

im trying to help him shush

[sonic hollow]

[tulip bolt]

bruh

[minor ore]

i cant even fucking think

[tulip bolt]

i think it don't help so much

[lusty rampart]

i think it did

[sonic hollow]

Simply put: the names are just references and there’s no “counterparts” to any characters, parts, or anything. SBR and JJL are there own things

ENTIRELY

[tulip bolt]

huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum NO

[cedar abyss]

so the names are just similar? so if i were to read sbr and jojolion thats just already chrono order?

[lusty rampart]

Yes

[minor ore]

can people just read the manga and then ask questions

[cedar abyss]

and can everyone STOP BEING A FUCKING ASSHOLE

im just tryna ask a question and everyones being a dick

[lusty rampart]

Yall dumbasses didn't answer his fucking question in a way that would end the conversation in one line, I did okay

[minor ore]

yes read part 7 then part 8

[cedar abyss]

ok

[tulip bolt]

you are an idiot just read before asking stupid question

go to mangadex

[lusty rampart]

pretty toxic

[cedar abyss]

i already said i dont read manga, i just want to know how they were related

[tulip bolt]

why you don't ?

[minor ore]

sorry if im being a little toxic its just that people always ask the same question like its so hard to understand

[cedar abyss]

bc i dont like reading?

[lusty rampart]

it's okay i feel that way too
I just felt like ending his confusion easily this instance

lul

[tulip bolt]

bruh you know it's not a book full of text

[umbral ivy]

[cedar abyss]

ik but id rather wait for the show to come out rather than read a fucking book

[minor ore]

:tsuda:

[sonic hollow]

Have fun waiting a few years than buddy

[minor ore]

^

[lusty rampart]

okay now leave
you should know what you're saying asks for arguments

[umbral ivy]

you’re not only coping, but you’re entirely incorrect

[cedar abyss]

i plan on it

[sonic hollow]

Dude doesn’t know what manga looks like

[umbral ivy]

“a fucking book” - 🤓

[minor ore]

manga is pretty much anime without sound

[umbral ivy]

manga is more subjective because you can interpret pacing and sound from your own view

[minor ore]

since most of the panels are what the frames are based on

[cedar abyss]

shut the fuck up you cunty ass stupid little shit ass cock licking testicle sucking bag shitting little fat ass whore

[umbral ivy]

😹

[sonic hollow]

This is what you should expect from manga

It’s not a wall of text

[cedar abyss]

and its in black and white?

[sonic hollow]

Theres color versions

[minor ore]

there is color options

[cedar abyss]

ik its not a wall of text

[umbral ivy]

they have coloring, but again, you’re coping

[minor ore]

hes coping real hard

[tulip bolt]

HARD COPE

[umbral ivy]

discord user Gabenma when he doesn’t have sparkly colors and rainbows on his full page of text

[cedar abyss]

can i just dm you? ive already had to block half the fucking server

[umbral ivy]

[cedar abyss]

i might as well since i cant see anything else

[minor ore]

you want the link?

[sonic hollow]

Lmao. Mangadex.org is a good site for manga

[minor ore]

have you read stone ocean

[tulip bolt]

bruh he's worst than i was thinking

[umbral ivy]

tooru pack

[tulip bolt]

x)

[umbral ivy]

this rai pack hitting a little different 🤤

[minor ore]

@cedar abyss https://mangadex.org/title/1044287a-73df-48d0-b0b2-5327f32dd651/jojo-s-bizarre-adventure-part-7-steel-ball-run-official-colored

[sonic hollow]

If you’re coming from Stone Ocean anime read that starting chapter 50 and on @cedar abyss

[minor ore]

sbsr colored

[tulip bolt]

yes

[umbral ivy]

damn this kaato pack hits hard

[cedar abyss]

what the fuck is your problem you cunt?

[sonic hollow]

Just ignore him

[minor ore]

lemon dont

[umbral ivy]

🤨

[tulip bolt]

[cedar abyss]

im trying but i have a short temper /:

[sonic hollow]

Stop fucking instigating it dickhead

[umbral ivy]

[sonic hollow]

It’s not hard

[umbral ivy]

you know what is? 😈

[tulip bolt]

[cedar abyss]

answer me you fucking orphan

whats your problem

[tulip bolt]

a rock human because they are rock ?

[eternal meteor]

jus think of sbr and jojolion as a separate series that just has jojo in the title, cause that’s what they are.

araki even first published steel ball run without “jojos bizarre adventure” in the title. so basically, parts 7 and 8 are just a new series with some similarities to the OG series (1-6)

[umbral ivy]

exactly

[tulip bolt]

what's the problem with orphan ?

[sonic hollow]

can both of you shut the fuck already jesus fucking christ

[umbral ivy]

[eternal meteor]

just in case you were still confused

[sonic hollow]

he knows at this point

[umbral ivy]

i will happily shut the fuck

[cedar abyss]

thanks, someone else cleared it up but that still helps tho thanks

[tulip bolt]

bro i just ask because orphan are just poor kids they don't need to be insult like this

[eternal meteor]

do you guys think we’ll get a jojolands sneak peak by the end of the year

[umbral ivy]

think this is a good time to remind you jobin is top 1 jojo side characters 😹

[minor ore]

cope harder

[hard meteor]

he was pretty goated

[sonic hollow]

funny joke

[hard meteor]

joshu 80x better tho sorry

[minor ore]

hi metal

ong

[tulip bolt]

yes Jobin is one if the best character of part 8

[hard meteor]

hi ripple

[sonic hollow]

i hate jobin AND joshu

[tulip bolt]

Joshu still better

[minor ore]

can

[umbral ivy]

i would make the haruno joke but it wouldn’t be funny

[tulip bolt]

no he is in my opinion

[minor ore]

spray can

[umbral ivy]

[minor ore]

mf prolly doesnt know who haruno is 💀

[umbral ivy]

[tulip bolt]

💀

[minor ore]

When does jojolion get good

chapter 1

[wary mantle]

from start

[hard meteor]

first page

[wary mantle]

by far best part

[minor ore]

ong

[tulip bolt]

at the time you start to read it

[minor ore]

It didnt

[tulip bolt]

yes part 8 was incredible to start to the end

[tame plover]

but in chapter chapter 50 it becomes god tier

beyond jojo

peak jojo

perfect jojo

X adjective jojo

[minor ore]

buggin

[tame plover]

till chapter 55

[tulip bolt]

for me jjl becomes god tier at the first fight

[tame plover]

It ain't no kq and vc

chapter 50-55 ultimate W

[minor ore]

^

[wary mantle]

best part starts with toorus apperance but the rest is also better then every other part

[tulip bolt]

it was the best chapters but for me i love jjl as i love god

[tame plover]

I like jjl but it ain't no stone ocean

except that arc

[copper orchid]

y'all check #jojo-overall-discussion out...

[tulip bolt]

SO have the best stands for me but jjl is too far of it

[tame plover]

Like man.. stone free, DD, weather report, ws, c moon, mih, FF (both stand and character), DIO son standds

[wary mantle]

SOs stands are pretty boring tbh

[minor ore]

dio sons was some of my favortie fights

[tame plover]

Massive, gigantic, L

[minor ore]

buggin

[static flint]

no lion in jojolion 😦

[sonic hollow]

Gargantuan L

[wary mantle]

i only like white snake, cmoon and mih

[tame plover]

L

[tulip bolt]

my fav was BR; FF(stand); Underworld; MT; Diver Down; PW; MIH; c-moon; WR; JJF; Dragon's dream

[tame plover]

BR?

[tulip bolt]

bohemian Rhapsody

[tame plover]

oh

[rugged stream]

Biggest L I ever saw

[tame plover]

ok im dumb what is MT, PW and JJF

brain shut down

[sonic hollow]

Manhattan transfer, planet waves, and idk the last one

[static flint]

m

[tame plover]

W planet waves fan

[rugged stream]

Manhattan Transfer, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Planet Waves

[tame plover]

ohhh jumping jack flash

[wary mantle]

the stands of other parts are way more Interesting

[tulip bolt]

design and power was really good

[rugged stream]

You didn't see the edit did ya?

[tame plover]

definitly

[rugged stream]

Subjective. But here's an L.

[tame plover]

If you refer to part 3 I will find your ip and crap on your bed

[wary mantle]

nah part 3 worst part

[kind owl]

@wary mantle, Your Stand Rank is now level 3 !

[wary mantle]

no

[sonic hollow]

Rare W

[wanton pelican]

you guys remember that time around the end of JoJolion when people still didn't really think that Tooru was the actual main antagonist, and that kaato was gonna be the villain? I must confess the dumb theory I had back then: Keep in mind this was before her stand was revealed as space trucking, I thought that since all the higashikata's stands had "king" in all of the stand names, that kaato would end up revealing her stand to be King Crimson au or some shit akin to how au diego got The World, and then it'd be some crazy finale with go beyond vs time erasure, boy this sounds so fucking dumb lmao

[tame plover]

yes

[tulip bolt]

it wasn't that bad

[tame plover]

yes it's dumb

[wary mantle]

its boring and has to many episodes

[tame plover]

I never belived that kc would appear lol

[tulip bolt]

but have polnareff

[wary mantle]

part 5 too

[rugged stream]

Not reading that. Good for you or sorry about that ig.

[sonic hollow]

As much as I like KC, if it came back I’d be pissed

[tame plover]

ikr

[wary mantle]

same

[rugged stream]

L

[tulip bolt]

that's why they are good to me

[wary mantle]

part 5 is my 4th fav part

[sonic hollow]

How is that an L

[tame plover]

uncommon Hey L

[rugged stream]

I think kc should come back or smthing idk

[tulip bolt]

me too

[sonic hollow]

It’s 5th for me

[tame plover]

nah kq had already comed back with a buff

[rugged stream]

Watch how I get pinged with Ls

[tame plover]

another come back would be too much

[sonic hollow]

L

[tame plover]

L

[wary mantle]

L

[rugged stream]

Lovely

[tulip bolt]

LOVE if you have the ref i love you

[minor ore]

L

[minor ore]

@heavy ledge that recent Kira painting is splendid

[heavy ledge]

How did i guess i was gonna be tagged

[tame plover]

What painting

I wanna see

[heavy ledge]

Thanks

[tame plover]

make me see

José

José

[heavy ledge]

Mmm

[tulip bolt]

hmm new painting sounds rlly good

[heavy ledge]

https://twitter.com/jose32551/status/1467793409494630400?t=0miyRbFY_Nzuft1ZvTVRBQ&s=19

⚓ Jose ☮️ - Comms 0/3 - (@jose32551)

i havent been able to draw yoshikage for like a month so it was an artistic NNN for me

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Twitter · Dec 6, 2021, 9:49 AM

[tame plover]

Bro you can't simply tell me about an amazing Dr. Kira painting and not show me

[sonic hollow]

Fucking christ why

[tame plover]

oh my

oh my oh my oh my

[heavy ledge]

You have two seconds to explain yourself before i go full mad

[sonic hollow]

im literally in class rn

[heavy ledge]

Fair

[tame plover]

Beautiful

[heavy ledge]

You

[tulip bolt]

oh that's interesting it's really good but why did he have tights

[heavy ledge]

Because i can draw him with them

[tulip bolt]

ok i'm pretty sure this sentence can go with everything

[heavy ledge]

Like, if you have the ability to draw nfts (nice fucking tits), wouldnt you do it too

[uneven tendon]

Amazing

[tulip bolt]

i can't deny that

i don't say it was bad in case it's rlly good

[heavy ledge]

Yea np, i think its pretty evident what im into 😏

[heavy ledge]

🙏

[uneven tendon]

👑

[tulip bolt]

idc about the art choice time that is beautiful

[sonic hollow]

Is that joshu over heaven

[heavy ledge]

That IS joshu over heaven

[tulip bolt]

I KNOW HE WAS OUR GOD

[minor ore]

oh i saw that. very nice

[minor ore]

liam please what server is that from

[uneven tendon]

Pataphysician's emote server

He is pretty active in the wiki server

[minor ore]

thanks

[whole finch]

My reread continues with the arc after doobie wah

I forget

[copper orchid]

OK HOLD UP, THIS NEEDS TO BE A CERTIFIED JJL MEME LMFAO

[hard meteor]

goated line

[minor ore]

literally me

[copper orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/honey-this-is-all-of-us-qtcinderella-this-is-us-we-can-relate-relatable-gif-22143783

[minor ore]

very true

[copper orchid]

CAN WE PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT AND APPREICATE THIS PIECE OF ART?!

[tame plover]

Give me a moment

....

....

....

nice

[copper orchid]

Nice

also this whole "4 balls but no balls" shit is so fucking hilarious lmfao

[heavy ledge]

[minor ore]

the rod

[copper orchid]

WTFFFFF

THIS IS SO GORGEOUS

NICE

[copper orchid]

yeah...lol

[minor ore]

you likin jojolion so far

[tame plover]

speed read to chapters 50-55

[rugged stream]

Now see the image in colour

[tame plover]

There is a official metal poster of it

and it's just

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[copper orchid]

I-

[copper orchid]

HYUP

alr I've decided to read the b&w version of a ch first
and then immediately read the coloured version
so in case i missed anything cuz of the b&w panels, its gonna help me a lot. Granted this prob gonna slow the process A HELLUVA LOT MORE but I think it makes it imho more immersive...

[tame plover]

woa

a jojo fan with a brain

A fan of jojo if you will.

[rugged stream]

That was coloured by Araki btw

[tame plover]

yas

[rugged stream]

the coloured version look way worse than this

[copper orchid]

anywho imma go sleep. night y'all

[heavy ledge]

how can araki make weird colors look beautiful

[copper orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/its-called-talent-talent-ability-blake-webber-blake-webber-gifs-gif-11940886

[tame plover]

Being a talented son of a B

Understands style, color theory, fashion

[rugged stream]

cus Araki knows colour theory and is talented

He doesn't just put random colours together and think it'll work well

[heavy ledge]

i think he actually puts random colours together and it works

one can know color theory and still not be able to have that what makes it pleasing to the eye

[rugged stream]

If he did he'd be very lucky to be this consistent with how good it looks
knowing colour theory and underrstanding what can and cannot work in a piece is his own speciality that no other manga artist can compare to

[tame plover]

Like even if you don't like jojo you have to respect the art

the man got to the mf Louvre

One hell of an accomplishment

[rugged stream]

most modern artists couldn't compare ong

they're too scared to even show the damn thing online and trying to be perfectionists
but Araki just does it.

[glacial tulip]

this b&w scan version not the original artwork

[glacial tulip]

this is the original artwork

[rugged stream]

I think they already know bro

[cedar kraken]

Enjoy the second best part

[rugged stream]

absolutely sublime

[oak wadi]

This shows why Araki is superior when drawing details

[whole finch]

W

[sonic hollow]

josuke would never cry

[whole finch]

I hate her

[tulip bolt]

bruh what she's become after the aphex twin fight ?

[sleek isle]

Soft and wet steals your virginity what do you do?

[minor ore]

Steal The Inside Of Me

[tulip bolt]

S&W steal my soul

[minor ore]

Please dont spoil guys am new to jojolion ;-;-;-;-;-;

[glacial tulip]

l have given josuke a new nickname which is ||kirafumi||

[tulip bolt]

well this is a spoil chat so get out quick

[minor ore]

https://youtu.be/fGFTP9g6Qrk

Thank me later

[hasty gulch]

@rugged stream So say why you think that Tooru is a good main villain

Jobin was a much better secondary villain than Tooru is as a main

[rugged stream]

his monolgues are cool, I like simple stuff in stories so his motive I think fits him and his style, he was used to his fullest despite being not as quickly apparent in the story as he should've been. His design is cool too.

[rugged stream]

Jobin was a bitch and he died a bitch

Plus I don't really think Tooru was a main villian

Josuke and Tooru wanted different things out of the Rokakaka and got into a very long quarrel about it

[hasty gulch]

Tooru comes to the end of the story, he basically had 0 direct involvement with the part 8 and doesn't even have a real motivation.

[rugged stream]

at least that's how I see it

[hasty gulch]

I also prefer to think that part 8 don't have main villain too

[frail ivy]

Tooru has his hair inspired from bull fighters who bait bulls and wear those hats with the red cape , as a bull baiter s job is to let things come to it and not pursue

[rugged stream]

1. He's comes late but not that late lmao
2. Yes he does. He's literally the main force for the Rock Human Organisation group. Even if each of the Rock Humans wanna do their own shit their own ways.
3. He does have a motive. It's a simple one but I feel it does fit him.

[sonic hollow]

facts

[hasty gulch]

Were the last 20 chapters of the manga that he was officially introduced to, no?
And the Rock Humans from the organization were going after Josuke by order of Jobin, I'm not even sure if Tooru knew who Josuke was until then

anyway you have to admit that of all the villains in jojo Tooru is the worst one

[frail ivy]

yh yet another stand user antagonist who couldn’t have been beaten otherwise because of its op ability but they just have to turn into morons right near the end

[rugged stream]

Kars and Diavolo are way worse

[little grotto]

Diavolo is the second best villain sthu

[hasty gulch]

Kars it's not bad it's just avarege

And Diavolo...

[sonic hollow]

🤡

[brave geyser]

factually incorrect

[frail ivy]

dio and funny valentine are the best

[little grotto]

Diavolo is a walking legend

[brave geyser]

how

[sonic hollow]

pucci and valentine are best yall are clowns

[hasty gulch]

Ok

[rugged stream]

was 29
not including his silhouette in chap 76

[hasty gulch]

Maybe Diavolo is worse than Tooru

[little grotto]

Pucci and Diavolo are the best

[sonic hollow]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[frail ivy]

DIO and valentine are just the best

[minor ore]

my favorite are kira and funny valentine

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

[hasty gulch]

Sorry but Diavolo it's not good villain

[little grotto]

ur the clown

[hasty gulch]

But Pucci is goat

[little grotto]

Diavolo and Doppio are one of the coolest villains, wdym?

They're like a tag team

[minor ore]

being bipolar is not cool

[hasty gulch]

the concept is interesting but...

[little grotto]

abelist not gonna lie sus bro 😳

[minor ore]

or whatever mental disorder diavolo had

[little grotto]

He was just insecure to an extreme level

[hasty gulch]

Diavolo is simply evil because yes

[frail ivy]

Diavolo had king crimson and multi personality and that’s about everything interesting about him

[minor ore]

fax

[little grotto]

Why are you hating on Diavolo while you have a Diavolo PFP and a Diavolo Username

[minor ore]

his daughter was cool tho

[frail ivy]

I can criticise a character I like lol

They’re not all perfect

[hasty gulch]

Can't people like bad characters?

[little grotto]

and plus, the band reference, the epitaph being Doppio's stand, how he was born 2 years after he could possibly be conceived.

[little grotto]

Bad??? Bad????????? Funny Valentine is bad, he's literally hitler but the president of the united states

[minor ore]

like hol horse he is a legend

[hasty gulch]

That why he is good

[frail ivy]

funny valentines napkin philosophy tho

[minor ore]

he lost to a pink iron golem from wish

[little grotto]

and diavolo's good because he's the mafia on steroids

[sleek finch]

icl i didnt understand shit about the napkins mainly because i read part 7 at lightspeed

[little grotto]

sounds stupid doesnt it

[sleek finch]

dio's good because he is a gay vampire

[minor ore]

DOJAAAAN

[little grotto]

That was cool but so was Kars' laugh and nobody likes him?

[minor ore]

kira is a registered sexual offender

[sleek finch]

registered?

lol

[minor ore]

i mean no

but at the end he got caught

[little grotto]

The only clown in this chat i see is somebody whos username starts with an o and ends with a t and I'm trying to be nice here

[minor ore]

kinda

[sleek finch]

well kinda no point in registering a sex offender right as he's dead

[little grotto]

Was such a missed oppurtunity, Joseph could have walked out of the ambulance after kira got ran over

[frail ivy]

Kira is just stuck in the afterlife as an assassin now lmao

[sleek finch]

that's cool ngl but im not sure that's canon

[little grotto]

I'm pretty sure the only place kira is in is with those hands

[sleek finch]

not really a bad punishment for him huh

[frail ivy]

Yh and they send him to a random place with no memories of his precious life

Previous*

[little grotto]

Plot twist: The hands are male

[sleek finch]

hey we never found out, he might have been bisexual

[minor ore]

imagine getting hard cuz u saw a painting

[little grotto]

If he was then we would have seen him murder males and take their hands away 😮‍💨

[sleek finch]

mona lisa isnt even that hot bro how horny do you have to be

[little grotto]

It was in DDD bro, he had a long month.

[kind owl]

@little grotto, Your Stand Rank is now level 5 !

[minor ore]

i meant its not like there was anything he could jerk off to

[sleek finch]

wdym there wasnt anything

[little grotto]

Dude he had a hand fetish. To men without that fetish thats like looking at big breasts, maybe her hands are beautiful idk im not an artist

[sleek finch]

fair enough

neither am i

[frail ivy]

Did you guys watch thus spoke Kishibe Rohan?

[sleek finch]

i read all the manga parts of it

dont remember most of it

[little grotto]

Yeah

[little grotto]

I read a little bit of the manga, but the only thing I read was where that gucci girl scammed rohan or smth

by seducing him? I dont remember lol

[frail ivy]

What did you guys think of yoma hashimoto the workout guy

[sleek finch]

that's a cool one

there's a part where tonio from part 4 appears and it's kinda wholesome

[minor ore]

Based I saw that picture too

[minor ore]

good to hear. more people should do that when they read.

[minor ore]

Is Yoshikage Kira part 8 AU Yoshikage part 4

[sonic hollow]

no

the name is just a reference

[minor ore]

SOMEONE HELP

WHATS GOING ON

What's gonna happen?!

Bruh

It was my old acc

It wont let me log on into this account

Idk why

how are you here then

14

nm i read that wrong

Oh

did you ever delete your old account?

Yes

I thought they did it instantly

But now I cant log in to this acc on my pc

[analog skiff]

i'm about to get murdered but

jojolion arc tier list

speed king represents fun fun fun 2, left is higher tier than right

[tulip bolt]

for me it's all in S because jjl is the best part but your tier list is pretty w

[granite pewter]

bro look how dummy thicc this stand is

[analog skiff]

bruh wtf i forgot it had that

that stand is so wack lol

[granite pewter]

part 8 stands on a different level ngl

[tulip bolt]

yes best stands with part 6

[analog skiff]

even the boring part 8 stands have great stuff

like brain storm is pretty basic but the arc is mad good

[granite pewter]

idk they’re kinda stupid but in a good way

[analog skiff]

and the soccer dude too

can't wait until jojolion anime in like 5-6 years

[granite pewter]

blue hawaii description is that it makes you walk in a straight line

[tulip bolt]

the design is awesome

[analog skiff]

I'm already imagining the CGI brainstorm lol

[tulip bolt]

x)

[granite pewter]

I wanna see king nothing animated stand looks soo cool

[tulip bolt]

i want to see jjl animated it's the fucking best part

[granite pewter]

no

sbr

but it’s second best

[tulip bolt]

no

opinion argue moment

sbr is 2nd best

jjl is 1st

[granite pewter]

my opinion is objectively correct

on everything

[tulip bolt]

mine too

[granite pewter]

my opinion is more correcter

[analog skiff]

for me part 6 my fave

and jjl third because i didn't like ending much oof

[tulip bolt]

mine is more objective

[granite pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-22260074

[tulip bolt]

yup the death was rlly weird that's a bad point

[granite pewter]

pls don’t spoil I ain’t finished yet

[analog skiff]

honestly

[tulip bolt]

but i have the ultimate argument

[tulip bolt]

ok

[granite pewter]

thanks

part 9 is the best

[tulip bolt]

Joshu is the chadest man of the universe

[granite pewter]

facts

[analog skiff]

what if in anime they like make it so that josuk8 ends up losing plunder from the memory fuckery daiya did or so? I saw that suggested and it would be a good way to make the retcon less abrupt

[tulip bolt]

what chapter

[granite pewter]

blue hawaii

[hard meteor]

nah that wouldnt work,he uses it after ckb

[granite pewter]

now you said it I forgot he just doesn’t use plunder

[tulip bolt]

dawn you are far of the end

keep reading

[analog skiff]

right

]

my b

plunder is like

probably one of the worst "errors" in jojolion

[granite pewter]

remind me who ckb is again

[hard meteor]

daiya fight

and agree,all that potential in that ability just to get scrapped

[granite pewter]

oh yeah

[tulip bolt]

wdym i don't remember

pls refresh my mind

[analog skiff]

him stealing properties

[analog skiff]

i find it the other way round honestly

[tulip bolt]

oh yes

[analog skiff]

it was so busted that there was no real way to make it work right

[granite pewter]

what did they retcon it to?

[analog skiff]

just his bubbles acting like bubbles

he can store stuff in

or use as shields

that type ofstuff

[granite pewter]

didn’t they basically do that anyway

[tulip bolt]

bruh goodbye guys it's 1am here i go sleep

[minor ore]

Best part

[tulip bolt]

true

[minor ore]

That's all I came to say

[granite pewter]

i’m ckb he plundered a sound and stored it. or am I remembering wrong

[tulip bolt]

no you're right

[analog skiff]

yes but now he can only store physical stuff

[golden compass]

part 8 was almost my favourite part but in the end, part 7 is just slightly better to me

[granite pewter]

ohh okay

Ik he stored heat in the beetle fight tho

idk if that counts as a physical thing tho

[brave geyser]

didnt he store the hot air

or something

[granite pewter]

ngl I didn’t even notice the retcon till you just pointed it out

this is so odd out of context

[minor ore]

Man freaks out after seeing a fly

[granite pewter]

as you do

[minor ore]

Lol

[sonic hollow]

he's just scared of bugs bro dont judge him

[tame niche]

bro u can take a lot out of context in this part

[granite pewter]

johnny would run towards it

[tame niche]

exhibit A

[sonic hollow]

well thats not johnny now is it

[woeful pilot]

jobin carried part 8

[granite pewter]

I love the panel where it’s like “yoshikage kira had no testicles”

[sonic hollow]

that bitch nearly sank it

[tame niche]

ong

[sonic hollow]

jobin is dogshit

[woeful pilot]

jobin negs bozo 🤬🤬🤬

[tame niche]

jobin solos DBZ verse

[sonic hollow]

jobin's dead bozo 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[woeful pilot]

W

[woeful pilot]

ok and 😂

half the characters are

[sonic hollow]

imagine dying to a small plastic tube

what a fuckin bozo

[woeful pilot]

i havent read jjl in so long i forgot what happened

[sonic hollow]

when i heard he died by bleeding out i thought it was cause he got hit by something insane. then i read it and saw it was a plastic fuckin tube that got him

[woeful pilot]

he still solos 😹👎

[sonic hollow]

clearly not lol

couldnt beat a plastic tube

[woeful pilot]

hes hot so its fine

[tame niche]

🧢

[kind owl]

@tame niche, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[sonic hollow]

this?

this is hot?

mf looks goofy as shit

[tame niche]

jobin ugly af

[woeful pilot]

then who do u find hot 🤨

[kind owl]

@woeful pilot, Your Stand Rank is now level 3 !

[tame niche]

JOSHU on the other hand

[sonic hollow]

your mom

[tame niche]

(for legal reasons that's a joke)

[woeful pilot]

joshu is hot

[sonic hollow]

what kinda dumbass has lines on both of his eyes

goofy ass

[woeful pilot]

eyes?? ☠️

[golden compass]

worst take i've seen all week

[sonic hollow]

Cope

[golden compass]

jobin is goated af

[sonic hollow]

Jobin sucks

And nothing can change my mind

[golden compass]

you're just wrong

[alpine trench]

Outcast with a trash opinion as usual

[prisma latch]

@alpine trench What would you do if you and joshu were stuck ina sealed white room

[snow gyro]

jojolion is slice of life but its pretty good tbh

[kind owl]

@snow gyro, Your Stand Rank is now level 5 !

[alpine trench]

I would rethink my life decisions that led me to be in that exact situation

[snow gyro]

ok

🙄

[prisma latch]

You had no choice in that

you were teleported

[heavy ledge]

Common outcast L

[prisma latch]

Yeah i like Jobin but hes kind of weak

Jobin the type of mf to break his neck and die after falling off a 100 story building

[golden compass]

how can you be weak when you have family

this is something jobin would probably actually say unironically lmao

[granite pewter]

I just got to the part with rai, so doggy style is basically just stone free right?

[golden compass]

very similar but just slightly different

[granite pewter]

what’s different? or is that a spoiler?

[golden compass]

he can turn his entire body into... whatever his stand turns him into and still be absolutely fine

[granite pewter]

ohhh aight

thanks

[golden compass]

from what i've understood doggy style just changes the shape of his body into whatever that is rather than turning it into something else like a string

[granite pewter]

I understand

[minor ore]

Jobins death was hilarious

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 10 !

[sonic hollow]

FINALLY someone who gets it

[copper orchid]

Indeed!

[copper orchid]

Hyup

YOOO SBR REFERNCE LESSSS GOOO

[wispy lion]

Huge W

[heavy ledge]

reference?

[minor ore]

Forgot about this panel entirely

Thanks

[copper orchid]

lmfao yw?

[left tangle]

a

bro

[young stirrup]

I just finished jjl

Damn that was insane at the end

Joshus little arm

How did the curse exactly break?? Is it because they gave the rock disease back to the rock humans?

[cedar kraken]

daddy joshu

hottest human

[cedar kraken]

Coloured is better

[cedar kraken]

Spoilers?

some people haven't finished jojolion

[young stirrup]

I-

U know this is a spoiler zone right?

[wispy lion]

This channel is dedicated to the whole manga, spoilers or not

[young stirrup]

People are free to talk abt any part of jojolion

[cedar kraken]

i already know, I'm talking about other people

[wispy lion]

as well as the other channels

[cedar kraken]

nice

[wispy lion]

this place is ridiculed with spoilers so

[young stirrup]

Dont spoiler check me. I can talk about any part of the manga. Ur not a mod let them to the job of enforcing the rules

If u come in here expect spoilers. They even say that in the rules

[cedar kraken]

lol

I'm fine with spoilers

[ornate fiber]

They were fine man

They were just asking a question it's allowed

[cedar kraken]

already finished all the parts

[young stirrup]

Nah apparently mt questions are spoilers and i shouldnt talk

My bad

Wont ask questions again

[cedar kraken]

lmao what are you saying

sone people haven't seen tooru yet

[young stirrup]

Didnt mention him

[ornate fiber]

Equivalent exchange with Tooru. Not really sure though, they broke A CURSE the one with Tsurugi. I think it's still hereditary tho...

[cedar kraken]

you were talking about the final fight

[heavy ledge]

the fuck is happening in here

[ornate fiber]

AK, I already clarified to you it wasn't a spoiler.

[cedar kraken]

Who do i even care

[young stirrup]

Im gonna ping a mod ur getting rly annoying. Stop. All spoilers are allowed

[ornate fiber]

They were asking a question about Jojolion.

[cedar kraken]

lol

[ornate fiber]

I'm a mod.

It's alr

[heavy ledge]

are they caught up?

[cedar kraken]

All i said was some people aren't up to that part

[young stirrup]

Ok ty

[ornate fiber]

Yup!

[wispy lion]

what did you expect in a channel dedicated to the manga

ofc there’s gonna be spoilers

[young stirrup]

Then they shouldnt come into this channel?

[wispy lion]

if they don’t wanna be spoiled we can inform them politely to avoid the channel unless they’re up for it

[heavy ledge]

then its fine, in case you know there is someone here that is currently reading you can always spoiler tag as courtesy

[ornate fiber]

^^^

[wispy lion]

that works too^

[cedar kraken]

yes

[ornate fiber]

The most civilised channel on this server ig

[heavy ledge]

if they havent even read a single page of the manga then you can politely tell them to fuck off

[young stirrup]

Anyways, i rly like jojolion Not mt favorite part thats still sbr but nonetheless wonder of you was very good

[cedar kraken]

sbr is the best part

[ornate fiber]

Wonder of U is terrifying

[cedar kraken]

and hot

[young stirrup]

Oh genuinely yeah

[wispy lion]

Wonder of U was indeed terrifying yet good

[young stirrup]

Utterly terrifying

[ornate fiber]

This is my favourite Part, it goes hard from the start to the neutral-ending finish.

Unpopular opinion but I like the ending

[young stirrup]

I genuinely wonder where theyre gonna go from here with jojolands

[ornate fiber]

It's vague, gives us more hype for Part 9.

[wispy lion]

Yupp

Cant wait for Part 9 already

[ornate fiber]

Same same, we can only imagine. Hope some questions are answered too, it's heavily implied Araki wants to tie some loose strings in the next part and not this one.

[cedar kraken]

Araki would probably die before finishing if

[young stirrup]

Do u think he might release info early next year?

[cedar kraken]

he's like 65

[ornate fiber]

Nothing is for certain.

[ornate fiber]

Don't say that, just wish him good health.

[young stirrup]

Yeah. Itll be cool to actyallt read it as its coming out

[ornate fiber]

[wispy lion]

yeah don’t hope that stuff, let’s just hope Araki is happy and healthy and continuing doing what he loves

That’s a horrible thing to say

[young stirrup]

Also araki is very healthy for a man in his 60s. Americans are just used to 60+ y/o being decrepid when the rest of the world lives wel into their 80s and 90s

[cedar kraken]

yes i do, but he's getting older

[wispy lion]

That doesn’t mean we should assume he’ll die before finishing a part

[ornate fiber]

Japan is one of the best places for seniors, he's in safer hands than ever

[tranquil flax]

Don’t speculate about him dying, he’s still 60 he’s fine

[wispy lion]

^ can confirm as a japanese citizen

[young stirrup]

Yeah and their diet and culture is extremely health oriented

[tranquil flax]

Like he’s still healthy and going strong
No need to curse Araki by accident

[young stirrup]

Like ppl live long there and have very long healthy lives

[ornate fiber]

NICE HAHAAA

[cedar kraken]

He took 10 years for jojolion, so he might take around that long for part 9. And he might even retire not necessarily pass away

[wispy lion]

there’s a lot of places for seniors to rest and they get lots of care here !

[wispy lion]

let’s not assume the worst up on the spot, the part isn’t even out yet

[wispy lion]

THANK YOUU

[cedar kraken]

hopefully he does release more parts

[ornate fiber]

Nah

Part 9 is the last

[cedar kraken]

really?

[wispy lion]

as part 9 being the last I’m really excited

because then it might have one of those really good endings that leave you swirling with emotions

[cedar kraken]

how is he going to come up with new stand abilities

[wispy lion]

have lovable characters and stuff

[young stirrup]

I was not expecting toruu. I had no idea who the main antagonist was for a long time

[ornate fiber]

I doubt Part 10 will come to fruitation

[wispy lion]

bdisbsk im just excited

[young stirrup]

Pls bring back abbacchio hes my favorite i luv him

[ornate fiber]

Tooru was quite the shocker

[cedar kraken]

I thought it was Jobin

[young stirrup]

Araki im begging

[ornate fiber]

He's back as Hato

[wispy lion]

fruitation haha get it cause roka

[young stirrup]

[ornate fiber]

You got my pun

[cedar kraken]

and norisuke in the beginning

[wispy lion]

[ornate fiber]

!w hato higashikata

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Hato_Higashikata

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Hato Higashikata

Hato Higashikata (東方 鳩, Higashikata Hato) is a secondary ally featured in the eighth part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, JoJolion. Introduced early in the story, she gains significance in the "Hato Brought Her Boyfriend Home" story arc and becomes a temporary ally in Walking Heart.

[ornate fiber]

female abbacchio

[heavy ledge]

[wispy lion]

oh my god female abbacchio

[brave geyser]

why tho

[ornate fiber]

Jose you have every right to kill me ❤️

[young stirrup]

U know what that makes sense

[brave geyser]

male abbacchio >

[brave geyser]

:(

[ornate fiber]

Make an Abbacchio yes

[ornate fiber]

NO NO NO

I WAS JOKING WHWJBSD

[heavy ledge]

i need more hands to facepalm harder

[young stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[ornate fiber]

What were your fave stands from this part tho?

[young stirrup]

Just pls dojt make the next jobro a zeppeli i cant handle that

[rose lava]

jojo refference in jojo damn

[wispy lion]

no way

[heavy ledge]

[crimson sparrow]

rero comes back a bunch of times

[young stirrup]

Oh my i liked shakedown road a lot tbh (johnnys death made me rly sad). I also liked how useful paisley park was

[ornate fiber]

Paisley Park is my favourite in the part

Good taste, she's so amazing

[wispy lion]

Johnnys death hit me so hard

[young stirrup]

I like paisley parks design and utility

[ornate fiber]

Also yeah Johnny could not get a break fuck

[young stirrup]

Overall very good very modern stand

I kinda hope araki puts more modern tech and thus more modern stands in part 9

[crimson sparrow]

paisley park seems like it would be useful in real life

[young stirrup]

Exactly!!!

[ornate fiber]

Same!!

[wispy lion]

It really would lmao

[young stirrup]

Like imagine a covid based stand

[ornate fiber]

Maybe a stand related to apps... And it shifts reality similar but very different to Bohemian Rhapsody?

[young stirrup]

/j

[wispy lion]

Same, that would actually be a really neat addition and pretty interesting!

[kind owl]

@wispy lion, Your Stand Rank is now level 18 !

[heavy ledge]

i almost spoiled the person above thinking they were caught up

[ornate fiber]

MITSUBA MY BELOVED

[wispy lion]