#jojolion

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junior coral
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Yeah Go Beyond is kind of mid. I like that it was foreshadowed in Chapter 1 but idk

analog skiff
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Biggest tooru lover does

junior coral
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I have mixed feelings on it

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It's kind of a GER level asspull

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Even worse than that actually

dire furnace
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GER was at the very least set up and fought for

analog skiff
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Also the ability is just stupid as shit

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How do you attack with something that doesn't exist

junior coral
analog skiff
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Tusk act 4 makes sense, infinite spin means infinite potential energy

junior coral
analog skiff
junior coral
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Because it do

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idfk

analog skiff
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Yes

minor ore
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Go Beyond >>>>> Plunder tbh

dire furnace
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it doesnt exist because fucky wucky string theory

analog skiff
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I still have JoJolion as my third favourite part because minor arcs are still really good

junior coral
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JoJolion is still my favorite part

analog skiff
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And ending had some good parts even if it was mostly bad imo

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Damn

junior coral
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As much as I can't stand Tooru, his arc is really good, and he himself isn't enough for me to not like the part

hard meteor
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Might have to bump it down to number 2 or 3 depending on the ending

analog skiff
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Unironically d8 one of the better parts of final fight

junior coral
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Even if the ending ends up sucking, which it might very well end up that way, I will still call it my favorite or at least second favorite part

analog skiff
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I think final arc is only a bit better than part 5's

charred ridge
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Why do I feel part 9 will continue where the last chapter left off

junior coral
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I say that I can't stand Tooru but he's really alright. He is nothing special to me

analog skiff
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Fair opinion

junior coral
charred ridge
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Tooru is the worst villain imo

junior coral
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Part 8 and 5 area actually both very similar in the end

minor ore
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Tooru best villain besides Kira tbh

junior coral
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cap

minor ore
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No cap

analog skiff
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Every MVer mad except tooru purists

minor ore
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Cap never exists with me

analog skiff
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Kaato and Jobin get merced

charred ridge
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For me Kira and Valentine's best

minor ore
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I sold each and every one

minor ore
analog skiff
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Tooru gets little good explanation

hard meteor
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pucci 💪

junior coral
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Pucci best villain

analog skiff
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Yeah Pucci my fave villain still

junior coral
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no kizzy

charred ridge
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Toorus intentions are just be rich

worthy heron
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Part 8 was my favorite part like less than 10 chapters in

minor ore
worthy heron
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Nothing gonna change that and they didnt butcher anything so we good

junior coral
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JoJolion goated start to finish

charred ridge
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Jojolion is still my fav part

minor ore
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Actually yeah tbh, I started liking Pucci more than Kira lately for some reason

analog skiff
minor ore
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DMQ Kira still goated

hard meteor
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Jojolion still dope but man these last couple of chapters 😔

charred ridge
analog skiff
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I honestly don't mind that that much but I do think it might have been cool if tooru appeared earlier

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Just not sure how you could get it to work

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Without making him stand out too much

charred ridge
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Maybe silhouette

junior coral
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Last couple of chapters are very mid

charred ridge
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Like in part 5

dire furnace
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or maybe

junior coral
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The anime adaptation should hopefully add Tooru in sooner

minor ore
charred ridge
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The entire head doctor arc was kinda ok

charred ridge
worthy heron
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Anime adaption you gonna be like 40 years old bro

dire furnace
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he has a YouTube channel and posts tutorials on how to smuggle illegal fruits

minor ore
analog skiff
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My JoJolion rereads are just gonna read up to D8 arc and stop after nyohoho

junior coral
analog skiff
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Not serious

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But still

minor ore
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If you use Part 5 as a base for anything good

🥱

dire furnace
minor ore
worthy heron
charred ridge
analog skiff
dire furnace
minor ore
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It's thematically contradictory

charred ridge
worthy heron
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Have tooru go rock climbing

minor ore
analog skiff
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If it would work, I think it would be cool if Tooru was introduced much earlier as still a friend to yasuho and then he gets implicated in a non-rock human fight where he does something cool despite appearing not to have a stand, so he isn't immediately Sus af as MV candidate

worthy heron
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Wtf a normal human gonna do agaisnt rock humans bro

charred ridge
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Also, The spinning lines wasn't explained much was it

minor ore
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What else do you want explained about it lmao

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 5 !

dire furnace
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rock humans vs gun

charred ridge
junior coral
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I wanna know what Tooru was doing the first 90 chapters of jojolion

minor ore
worthy heron
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Have tooru be a sleeper agent that wakes up when he finally sees the branch fucken sees it and immediately snaps Joshus neck

minor ore
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Who the fuck cares about Johnny

junior coral
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jacking off into a fucking trashcan at the hospital waiting for Josuke to show up

charred ridge
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Felt like a sudden plot convenience

crisp vigil
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dirt boy fights the elderly over fruit

minor ore
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Did you like
Miss the entire lesson in Part 7 where Gyro explains spin is a natural thing

charred ridge
analog skiff
worthy heron
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Tf how old are you now

charred ridge
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14

analog skiff
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And an assistant

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Simultaneously

junior coral
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bruh

worthy heron
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You young ashell boi go talk to some bitches

minor ore
junior coral
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I really liked Tooru and Satoru's buildup at first because it really reminded me of Doppio and Diavolo but it got totally cast aside

charred ridge
worthy heron
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Understandable

charred ridge
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Wasn't Tooru locating the Rokakaka as head doc with that doctor guy

junior coral
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No

crisp vigil
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what if we got one of these scenes for the rock human organization 😳😳

analog skiff
analog skiff
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That's why poor tom got merced

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Oh yeah

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One of the parts I actually dislike most about JoJolion that's kinda subtle

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Araki mentioning how rock humans are unable to feel love or affection in the weird chapter with Hermes the rock human ||not serious||

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But seriously though I think that hurts the rock humans a lot

charred ridge
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More than being raised by wasps?

analog skiff
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Being raised by wasps is metal

crisp vigil
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1 thing i really want to know about tooru

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why did this man enroll in high school

hard meteor
analog skiff
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Fitting in society

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When he tried the tech thing he got shouted out

junior coral
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Also how did he know Yasuho had the Stand ability to help him locate Akefu Satoru when she was

analog skiff
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For someone who looks his age high school fits for him ig

minor ore
charred ridge
analog skiff
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I'm sad nobody jokes about Hermes being a rock human anymore

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That was one of my favourite dumb part 8 jokes

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When that issue first released

minor ore
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What if Enya is a rock human who gave birth to Dio........

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And whatever his name is dad just adopted him

analog skiff
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Enya was the mother of the hanged man dude tho

crisp vigil
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j geil

minor ore
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A facade obviously

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Araki remembered and explained it all with that single cameo

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He did it again

analog skiff
junior coral
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christ

analog skiff
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xForts has some small brain takes about part 8 at times

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I don't get why he disliked D8 so much

junior coral
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Because it was dumb

analog skiff
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I can get it from a purely "monthly manga" perspective

junior coral
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Those stupid rock animals be making the arc longer than it need to be

analog skiff
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D8, WoU, and tooru were the only good part of that arc nyohoho

crisp vigil
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not if you’re patient

analog skiff
junior coral
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Man this guys got some really Unpopular JoJolion Opinions

minor ore
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D8 peak JoJo tbh

analog skiff
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Tbf for a while I liked brain storm more than vitamin c

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Actually I still do

winter spade
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D8 better character than Aphex Twins

minor ore
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If you dislike D8 you genuinely do not have any rights for an opinion about anything JoJo related from that point onward

analog skiff
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I just like vitamin c more than I used to

minor ore
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Sorry for speaking facts 🤷‍♂️

crisp vigil
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aphex twin fight underrated

junior coral
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Where do you come from

analog skiff
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Belgium

junior coral
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Oh

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alright

analog skiff
minor ore
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cap

analog skiff
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I keep forgetting surface exists

junior coral
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Surface the best Stand no kizzy

winter spade
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Surface more like

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Susface

junior coral
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oooooo

winter spade
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Gottem

analog skiff
minor ore
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Surface more like Depth

winter spade
analog skiff
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A fitting banner for the tooru fans, whether they think he was poorly implemented sadly or think he was implemented well enough

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All tooru fans can stand behind that

winter spade
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Tooru fans can stand behind suit and tie wou

analog skiff
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Oh damn I didn't even see that until now

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I like the scarf tho

winter spade
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True

analog skiff
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Oh yeah I just remembered smth

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Wtf was up with the wonder of u corpse

winter spade
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Que

analog skiff
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That shit was just weird

winter spade
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It staying alive after Tooru died?

analog skiff
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The one that tried to climb inside norisuke

winter spade
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Because calamity energy isn’t created by WoU or by Tooru

junior coral
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Wonder of U is a natural law.

analog skiff
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Yeah fair

winter spade
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It’s a natural force Tooru manipulated

junior coral
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Tooru uses his Stand as a conduit to control it but calamity always exists

analog skiff
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I was just sad because I was expecting the arc to finally become good nyohoho

winter spade
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Massive cap

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Although I will agree about one thing that was shit about the arc

junior coral
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naw it was good in the beginning, mid in the middle, and goated at the end

winter spade
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No NKC beatdown nyohoho

junior coral
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The Wonder of You is longer than all of Part 1

analog skiff
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Yeah

crisp vigil
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he tried

junior coral
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let that sink in

junior coral
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yes

crisp vigil
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oH

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oh it is

analog skiff
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Tbf I just think kei's stuff was kinda weird, I really don't like go beyond, Jobin not getting a proper fight in was sad for me, and Tooru didn't get enough lore.

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Mainly go beyond honestly

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I like it a lot until that happens and then I really dislike it until kaato appears

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Oh yeah and Joshu had a gamer moment

junior coral
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beats it by like 20 pages

crisp vigil
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joshu been bonked by a gutter

analog skiff
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GTG now, see y'all

crisp vigil
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bye

winter spade
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Adios

crisp vigil
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can’t wait for the 2087 jjl anime with 9 episodes of WoU

unborn osprey
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Really

junior coral
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Yeah it beats Phantom Blood by about 20 pages

unborn osprey
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Phantom blood was way too short

junior coral
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no it was a good length for what it was

unborn osprey
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I watched the re-edited version and missed some stuff

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I think I’m gonna watch Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency again

junior coral
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good

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goated decision

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Can someone tell me WHY there is a two fucking second timer in this channel right now??

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What does that do besides provide a minor inconvenience right now

unborn osprey
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But someone sends another message before I get to do it

junior coral
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fr

unborn osprey
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Tbh

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Part 3 Dio would’ve been stronger if he wasn’t a vampire

junior coral
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hm, no

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There's no way in hell that he'd be anywhere near as proficient at using his Stand if he wasn't immortal

unborn osprey
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Yeah but I mean

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If there was a way to turn back into a human

junior coral
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why would he take it

unborn osprey
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Idk

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Sunlight killing you is a huge misadventage

junior coral
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Not when you have your ultimate battle at night lol

hard meteor
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more advantages to being a vampire

junior coral
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yeah really

crisp vigil
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have you seen sbr

unborn osprey
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Yeah probably

crisp vigil
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human dio with the world isn’t as strong

junior coral
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okay i have to go! don't say anything stupid while I'm gone I won't be able to respond!

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save the stupid for when i get back

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okay ciao

unborn osprey
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Ok but

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What if I say

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Anything stupid

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While you’re gone ?

crisp vigil
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well don’t make greeny cry

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that’s just rude

unborn osprey
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Ok

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Now that I’ve finished part 8

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I’m gonna add part 8 stands to my stand tier list

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Bye

minor ore
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Part 8 not over yet...

vagrant elbow
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Phantom Blood was boring as fuuuuck

minor ore
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No it wasn't

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You were probably just too hyped for 3

worthy heron
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Part 3 is THE snorefest bruh

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So fucken LONG

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So fucken BORING

crisp vigil
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i loved it

minor ore
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Phantom Blood was by far my most fun adaptation experience.

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The other animated parts are just not something.

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The manga is even better.

crisp vigil
worthy heron
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Part 1 was solid

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Better than 2 and 3 forsure

ripe rover
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p7 was the worst part, jonnhy has no dignity

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no one has

minor ore
ripe rover
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like diego was like, thx for your sacrifice,

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what sacri aaaaaaaaaaa

crisp vigil
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bait moment

minor ore
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🥱

ripe rover
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no i really didn't like p7

tidal spear
crisp vigil
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oh wow

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first i’ve seen dislike sbr

ripe rover
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stone ocean is better

tidal spear
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ok but sbr isnt the worst part

ripe rover
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like jolyne is like, i have to save my father from a cult leader who wants to go over god

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and p7 is mknknak i wanna walk

true walrus
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this is bad bait

lusty geyser
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Who dare uses my face.

tidal spear
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pucci is a cult leader? he wants to go over god?

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i dont remember that

minor ore
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He kinda is, yeah.

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The cult leader part at least.

crisp vigil
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he’s a corrupt priest

ripe rover
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fate is the slavemaster in jojo

crisp vigil
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worships dio

tidal spear
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ye

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but whats the cult?

minor ore
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He doesn't inherently want to dethrone Gd, but his hypocritical actions say otherwise.

minor ore
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Think that's why Jotaro left his family.

crisp vigil
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not a cult necessarily

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just dio’s influence

ripe rover
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even fv is a little more moral than johnny

minor ore
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Well yeah, but it does have its cultish characteristics.

ripe rover
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keyword a little

minor ore
crisp vigil
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true

minor ore
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Nobody cares

ripe rover
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ok

tidal spear
ripe rover
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anyway, what is your favorite kind of bugs

minor ore
minor ore
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Not the followers that he sent after the crew in P3

ripe rover
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mine is colonial

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like bees, wasps and ants

tidal spear
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ok

kind owlBOT
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@tidal spear, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

ripe rover
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also what is bait

tidal spear
crisp vigil
tidal spear
ripe rover
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yes, mine is called first world problems, i can't talk too much because rp is prohibited

true walrus
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he has stand duh

ripe rover
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it is for a rpg that me and my friends willl have

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also this part also has no dignity because to have dignity in jojo, you mustn't steal

unborn osprey
kind owlBOT
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@unborn osprey, Your Stand Rank is now level 8 !

unborn osprey
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That shit was so fucking long to make

pearl topaz
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Dolomite stand is trash

shell fossil
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Omg

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Is hey ya in f

unborn osprey
pearl topaz
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Its garbage imagine putting that stand above The world or Star platinum lmfao

ripe rover
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hey guys don't loook for a certain stand in the list

pearl topaz
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Should be in D tier

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And no wonder of u

quasi oak
shell fossil
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I don't see hey ya or cheap trick in f

ripe rover
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don padre, you clicked on the list to see better right

quasi oak
ripe rover
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and while you were doing that you would have to put more light in your eye

shell fossil
unborn osprey
lapis fractal
minor ore
pearl topaz
ripe rover
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now imagine that means that a photon could hit just right to emit a eletron who gives you a stroke, right?

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that would be considered a calamity, right?

shell fossil
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Why are they both high ranked hey ya just gives encouragement and cheap trick kills the user

lapis fractal
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Hey Ya makes the user not depressed

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op if you ask me

shell fossil
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Lol

unborn osprey
pearl topaz
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Anyone got the link to where i can read jojolion colored version

unborn osprey
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So cheap trick can be really good

unborn osprey
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Here

shell fossil
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I think if every jojo character fought I would root for NOTORIOUS B I G

minor ore
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WoU, GER, etc are all there

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For all we know, Cream or The Hand alone can clap it

sinful bramble
unborn osprey
sinful bramble
unborn osprey
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I should’ve added him in the list with an edit

ripe rover
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i would root to tonio

sinful bramble
ripe rover
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ger can't deffeat that

analog skiff
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Long post incoming warning

unborn osprey
eternal meteor
analog skiff
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insert Powerpuff girls theme meme format

Kaato MVers explaining how Kaato is the main villain despite doing absolutely nothing for 95% of the part and having no relationship with rock humans.

Tooru MVers explaining their 9 page thesis on why Tooru is actually canonically an incredibly deep character with deep motivations and theming.

Former Damo MVers explaining how every single arc after Milagro Man is actually hot trash.

Jobin MVers when their best friend accidentally slits their throat open with a knife and they are bleeding out on the floor (they could still be alive)

ripe rover
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what is mv

eternal meteor
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main villain

analog skiff
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Main villain

sinful bramble
ripe rover
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josh is the mv

analog skiff
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I'm on phone and don't have access to laptop for 10 days

sinful bramble
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Oh

minor ore
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josh

ripe rover
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that why i have a josh pfp

unborn osprey
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I’m sad that Scan and WoU weren’t in the list

analog skiff
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Scan?

sinful bramble
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They’re probably using a template

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That came before WoU

unborn osprey
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Scan in A and WoU in OP

sinful bramble
analog skiff
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Oh yeah I just didn't see the previous conversation

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I thought someone was saying scan was MV

unborn osprey
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Oh

analog skiff
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Is this based on pure power

unborn osprey
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WTF IS BRAIN STORM

analog skiff
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Urban guerilla stand

unborn osprey
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Oh

analog skiff
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Brain storm Merced those cops in like 5 seconds and has great range

unborn osprey
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I kinda forgot his ability

eternal meteor
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bruh the rubix cubes stand

unborn osprey
analog skiff
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It's like potentially SS tier imo

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It kills fast, is subtle, and has great range

unborn osprey
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Idk as I said I forgot his ability

analog skiff
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Fair fair

sand mulch
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in what order should i watch jojo
does anyone have any links?

ripe rover
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brain storm is yo mama withou yo mama

analog skiff
minor ore
sand mulch
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idk where to ask

analog skiff
analog skiff
unborn osprey
analog skiff
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Don't listen to him ray

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Yes

minor ore
minor ore
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I am fully unironic

analog skiff
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Part 1 to 5 on crunchyroll or so

ripe rover
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p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p8

analog skiff
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6 7 and 8 are on mangadex

analog skiff
sand mulch
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bruh u guys don't know a think do you

unborn osprey
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Bro

worthy heron
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Part 4 and then part 8

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All that matters tbh

unborn osprey
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Part 5 > part 4

eternal meteor
worthy heron
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Wait

ripe rover
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then he would skip stone ocean, which is best part

worthy heron
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Part 4 then 6 then 8

unborn osprey
ripe rover
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yas yes yes

worthy heron
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Part 6 is necessary for the understanding

unborn osprey
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7 > 8 > 6 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1

ripe rover
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jk go 1-8 in manga to develop a reading habit

unborn osprey
worthy heron
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8 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 5 > 1 > 2 > 3

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Better opinion

ripe rover
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7<every other part

unborn osprey
ripe rover
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hey guys, who is the higashikata who is a model?

sinful bramble
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Hato

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Pretty sure Mitsuba also did modelling

unborn osprey
sinful bramble
unborn osprey
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Ok but

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It looks like part 8’s end isn’t gonna be so sad

analog skiff
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Where is the funny joshu

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Man

ripe rover
analog skiff
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If part 9 is a thing

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I hope tooru pulls a part 6 dio

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Somehow

unborn osprey
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Yes

analog skiff
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I do actually really like tooru

unborn osprey
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Tooru was introduced too late so he couldn’t get developed and all

analog skiff
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I just felt he was underexplained

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And most of the stuff I do like bout him is just theory

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Like on just how I feel about them, tooru is 2nd best for me

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But based on only the part itself and no theories

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He's only just above diavolo sadly

unborn osprey
worthy heron
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You said this same thing before you left

analog skiff
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New people appeared

heavy ledge
unborn osprey
heavy ledge
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go be happy

analog skiff
unborn osprey
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Tooru got nothing

analog skiff
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Doppio is cool

ripe rover
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yeah go read homestuck, there is no death i think

analog skiff
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But on just diavolo alone

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Diavolo got nothing nothing

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Tooru is significantly more interesting than diavolo on his own

unborn osprey
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Oh yeah if you don’t count Doppio then yes

analog skiff
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I'm still happy Tooru is MV even if he was utilised badly

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It means people will talk about him

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And I like the dude and he didn't get the lore in the story he deserved

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So the talk will fill that void lol

heavy ledge
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the virgin "tooru is the mv" reader vs the chad "karmic retribution" mv reader

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/j

unborn osprey
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Tbh

crisp vigil
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chad baoh enjoyers

unborn osprey
analog skiff
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Yo mama

unborn osprey
heavy ledge
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the pause mode is still in this chat after 3 weeks

analog skiff
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I don't get that complaint that much honestly

unborn osprey
analog skiff
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I never really cared that much about that aspect of MVs

unborn osprey
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That would’ve been really cool tbh

analog skiff
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But that would have been cooler I agree

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I just don't think it's nearly as big of a complaint for me as if unless if Araki was trying to be intentionally vague with his backstory

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He's just not really explained well in JoJolion

crisp vigil
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i think that’s purposeful though

analog skiff
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Yeah

unborn osprey
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I wonder how the next chapter is gonna go

analog skiff
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A better explanation of my stance with tooru is

crisp vigil
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like “the last person you expect is a villain” that kinda theme

analog skiff
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If he's meant to be taken at face value, he's only a bit better than diavolo

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If he's meant to be kinda up to interpretation and theory on his intentions and so, he's my second favourite

crisp vigil
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by foreshadowing more it becomes a little more obvious

unborn osprey
analog skiff
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Yo Mama

unborn osprey
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Lucy and Fumi were Josefumi’s parents

analog skiff
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She's like 80

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And he's like 17

hard meteor
unborn osprey
crisp vigil
#

she’s 65

unborn osprey
#

I forgot how young fumi is

ripe rover
#

no

hard meteor
#

you think this is supposed to be lucy? lmao

unborn osprey
#

Also forgot about that

analog skiff
#

Man

unborn osprey
#

The dad still might be fumi tho

hard meteor
#

probably

analog skiff
#

15 days until the harvest of the new Jojolion

ripe rover
#

nay forgor💀

analog skiff
#

Or 16

#

Can't remember

unborn osprey
analog skiff
#

Can't wait until part 6 anime news more importantly

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Part 6 legit my favourite part

unborn osprey
#

Part 6 is my third favorite part

analog skiff
#

Part 7 and 8 kinda interchangeable for me in second and third place

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Part 7 feels more complete and consistent as a story for me

#

But part 8 has some of my favourite arcs

ripe rover
#

i just don't like the plot of p7

kind owlBOT
#

@ripe rover, Your Stand Rank is now level 7 !

ripe rover
#

ahhhhhhh

analog skiff
#

Lmao

crisp vigil
#

it’s everything you could ever ask for

#

cripples, cowboys, dinosaurs, jesus

#

what’s not to love

ripe rover
#

the mc killling innocent people

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and cutting lines

crisp vigil
#

you’re pissy about johnny’s backstory

#

the reason he’s in the steel ball run to begin with is to redeem himself

ripe rover
#

yeah, even diego has more honour

unborn osprey
#

Gyro’s death was so traumatizing

hard meteor
#

when where hired assassins considered innocent people lol

analog skiff
#

Main things that I dislike about 7 are

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Weird character deaths at times

#

Beginning

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Pedophilia is used way too much

crisp vigil
#

death is abundant in jojo

analog skiff
#

George at the end bugs me

ripe rover
#

he shot innocent people at the end

analog skiff
crisp vigil
analog skiff
#

And also sandman ig I actually didn't care about sandman that much lol

hard meteor
#

not on purpose,the whole concept of valentines ability is that harm is redirected

unborn osprey
ripe rover
#

no, he knew love train power

analog skiff
#

Oh I thought you meant Diego using women as cover

crisp vigil
#

not initially

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besides he had no other way of hurting valentine before act 4

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so like no other option than to keep shooting

hard meteor
#

yeah what was he supposed to do

ripe rover
#

or use the joestar techinique

analog skiff
crisp vigil
#

yeah, the cripple runs away

analog skiff
#

He was on a horse

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Unless I'm mistemembering

#

D4C and Love train arc I kinda forgot a lot of

#

Was really fuckn long

ripe rover
#

he was, and fell of the horse after attack love train

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iirc

analog skiff
#

I just don't get why pedophilic sexual assault is used so much lol

ripe rover
#

it is because sbr plot is more selfish

#

johnatan joestar

#

oh

analog skiff
#

IG but still

hard meteor
#

doesnt really justify it

analog skiff
#

Yeah

dire furnace
#

it was like also literal rape

analog skiff
#

Like

dire furnace
#

shut up

ripe rover
#

fv stans explainig that the age of consent was lower justify the rope of a 16 yr old

analog skiff
#

Ringo backstory, Lucy backstory, Lucy with valentine 1, Lucy with valentine 2, Lucy with alt diego

dire furnace
#

Alt Diego was a whole ass weirdo

analog skiff
#

Yeah

dire furnace
#

main Diego would never 🙄🙄

hard meteor
#

og diego was based

ripe rover
#

main "sacrificed weakpipo" diego

dire furnace
#

so based he ignored death just to say he won

analog skiff
ripe rover
#

who didn't

analog skiff
#

Damn

hard meteor
#

truly a goat

analog skiff
#

Diego is cool tho

dire furnace
#

Diego is indeed cool , swag even.

analog skiff
#

Most underrated Diego moment is Diego at the start of scary monsters in general

ripe rover
#

was diego a jobro

#

nvm

analog skiff
#

Like between Johnny and Gyro finding him collapsed near the fossil and him fully becoming a dinosaur

dire furnace
#

Diego was an anti hero or anti villain

ripe rover
#

he is the oppposite of a jobro

dire furnace
#

he wasnt full villain like DIO

ripe rover
#

he accidentally killed jobros

analog skiff
#

I need the one panel where diego is flipping all over his horse at the start of scary monsters

ripe rover
#

imagine tusk if nicholas was alive

#

infinity squared

dire furnace
#

if Nicholas was alive Johnny probably wouldn't have gotten shot and lost power in his legs in the first place

mossy cloak
#

polref

dire furnace
#

cause im pretty sure he only started acting like an ass because his dad no longer saw him as a person

#

and acting like an ass got him put in a wheelchair

analog skiff
dire furnace
#

Polnareff is the best character to come out of part 3

ripe rover
#

so fv lost because of a rat

dire furnace
#

yeah

mossy cloak
#

polnareff is the jojo in part 3

analog skiff
#

Part 3 has 5 good things

ripe rover
#

so it is the same kind of stand as jotaro

mossy cloak
analog skiff
#

Polnareff, Hol Horse, Oingo Boingo, Vanilla Ice, and final fight

mossy cloak
#

yes

#

no

#

darby brothers

analog skiff
#

Oingo Boingo is unironically one part part 3 stands above other parts

#

There's not many other comedic arcs

#

After part 4 especially

mossy cloak
#

seinen

dire furnace
#

Gyro woulda probably just try to win the race and go back to Italy , Diego would've won tho. or the mf with Hey Ya!

ripe rover
#

shinteru ze

analog skiff
mossy cloak
#

hey ya was the catalyst for ww2

analog skiff
#

Wtf

mossy cloak
#

what

dire furnace
#

Hey Ya got the holy corpse after Johnny died

mossy cloak
#

no you

dire furnace
#

he was just walking down the street and the suitcase was just sitting there

mossy cloak
#

easy

#

now he in cuba with the corpse and 2 pac

analog skiff
#

JoJolion 110 will end with Josuk8 having some damaged clothes

#

So he goes to a clothes store and buys a new shirt

mossy cloak
#

fan service

#

i se

dire furnace
#

Josuke will never show up again

analog skiff
#

And the store is owned by pocoloco's son

mossy cloak
#

oh oh

dire furnace
#

he got cucked out of ending his own part

mossy cloak
#

pocoloco jr goes ham on josuke

#

part ends

mossy cloak
dire furnace
#

jr has his stand "Hey ya , pal ! "

analog skiff
#

||joke is that everything in part 8 happened for pocoloco jr to get more money from the shop||

#

Probably didn't need to explain it

mossy cloak
#

pocoloco jr fruit parlor

dire furnace
#

Pocoloco got so lucky he found a stone mask and the red stone of Asia and became the ultimate lifeform

mossy cloak
#

he was the ultimate pocoloco already

#

got the dlcs anyway

dire furnace
#

now he's ultimate - er

mossy cloak
#

i see

#

makes sense

analog skiff
#

I like when Johnny and Gyro make the Steel Ball Bridge to cross the canyon Pocoloco and Hey Ya tricked them to attempt to cross

kind owlBOT
#

@analog skiff, Your Stand Rank is now level 14 !

analog skiff
#

And then Hey Ya proceeds to have a gamer moment

vagrant elbow
#

Oh

analog skiff
vagrant elbow
#

I thought you meant the SBR hat store

#

Smh

analog skiff
#

Would be funny and make sense

vagrant elbow
#

Yeah

#

Take notes araki

minor ore
unborn osprey
#

I literally forgot about jojo deaths

#

Now that I remember it I’m fucking crying

ripe rover
#

why?

unborn osprey
#

Sadness

#

« Arigato Gyro »

barren crystal
#

Josuke in alt universe: pls ro ka

fallen lake
dire furnace
#

Joe

fallen lake
#

i am not having this battle again in this server, last time i appeared i had to win the name joe by checking who joined first

#

this was months ago

dire furnace
#

i been here 2 years 😤😤😤

#

you are now Joe 2

fallen lake
#

idk when i joined

dire furnace
#

accept it

#

Joe Jr

fallen lake
#

im fine with that

dire furnace
#

his head fuses with the corpse of Saint Johnny and we get Johsuke

fallen lake
#

IT WAS YOU

#

man

dire furnace
#

IT WAS ME

#

AHAHA

#

you thought it was a different server , but it was i , JOE !!!!!

fallen lake
#

fuck

dire furnace
#

there are more . .

fallen lake
#

this will never end

kind owlBOT
#

@fallen lake, Your Stand Rank is now level 3 !

fallen lake
#

i forgot that the ranks reset

#

sad i miss my rank

#

so since i've been absent for a while

dire furnace
#

yeah they got wiped a while ago

fallen lake
#

Joe, whats up with this chat

#

has anything changed

dire furnace
#

same shit as usual

#

Joshu and Tooru debates

fallen lake
#

how are goose and jojodoss

dire furnace
#

jojodoss still dropping bangers 😤😤

#

goose im not sure

fallen lake
#

seems fine

flint blaze
#

@near cedar

ebon rampart
mossy cloak
#

Man

swift flint
#

Rock human 👀

meager granite
#

hey guys i recently am started part 8 is yasuho alive?

minor ore
#

No

eternal meteor
#

how do we tell him sadboixd

yasuho…

hard meteor
#

died tragically

swift flint
#

ShigechiDab2 she got raped

kind owlBOT
#

@swift flint, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

tough hollow
#

gets blown apart

minor ore
#

Yeah it was really gruesome

flint blaze
#

Nah she’s having a nice talk with josuke after they defeated all the rock humans.

crisp vigil
#

it started with her arms

#

she lost one

#

one became 2

#

2 became the rest of her body

junior coral
#

Who is Yasuho

minor ore
#

Why is Yasuho

junior coral
#

I'll do you one better, where is Yasuho?

hard meteor
#

when is yasuho

molten crane
#

what is yasuho

craggy heath
#

How is yasuho

junior coral
light acorn
#

I feel like the only reason people say tooru is the main part antagonist is cause he’s the final villain

junior coral
#

And because he is the ringleader

#

But other than that he doesn't have the qualities of the mv

young meteor
minor ore
junior coral
#

Wonder of U on its own is so much cooler than Tooru

#

The Head Doctor/ Wonder of U carries his arc

molten crane
#

Tooru is the main villain because he is the final substantial battle, he is the leader of the organization that the main protagonists have been fighting the whole part, he was the reason behind the motive of the main protagonist, and he's someone who cherishes memories, which is the opposite of how the main protagonist has no memories prior to the part

junior coral
#

Last one's a stretch but sure

#

I still don't agree

#

Or, I do agree, but I think he failed as a main antagonist and was poorly written

#

either or

faint rivet
#

Only a spoonful

minor ore
#

I think he’s a well written main antagonist

junior coral
#

he isn't

#

not even close

minor ore
#

He is

#

Even close

junior coral
#

Source?

minor ore
#

My thoughts and viewpoints

junior coral
#

So you are capping

#

Facts don't care about your feelings!

sick igloo
junior coral
#

The whole dreams and memories shit is shoehorned into the chapter where dies in

sick igloo
#

Wdym shoehorned

#

It’s mentioned in chapter 102 as well

#

You think Araki making josuke’s whole journey having no memories vs Tooru saying memories complete a person is a stretch?

junior coral
#

Yes

sick igloo
#

Also not to mention their dynamic between how one of them has a super strong bond with their mother and the other’s last moments are spent reaching out to his only mother figure

#

Is that a stretch too?

junior coral
#

Because Tooru doesn’t interact with Josuke a single motherfucking time the whole fight. There IS no dynamic

#

It’s so fucking forced

#

We are TOLD there is a dynamic but we never actually SEE it

sick igloo
#

Lol “forced” lmfao

junior coral
#

That’s Tooru’s whole problem

sick igloo
#

Nah Tooru is an S tier villain

junior coral
#

You are capping out your ass

sick igloo
#

I’m really not

junior coral
#

Tooru fans relying solely on headcanon to back up their points

sick igloo
#

Headcannon lmao

junior coral
#

There is absolutely no substance to Tooru whatsoever

#

Everything we know about him we are TOLD not shown

#

He does not exist outside of this one arc

sick igloo
junior coral
#

He has no development, no character arc, barely any interaction with the cast, and vague and uninteresting motives

minor ore
#

based

sick igloo
sick igloo
junior coral
#

What are you trying to prove here

#

The dreams and memories shit is mentioned in two or three chapters at the fucking most

sick igloo
#

I find it funny how you ignore everything that’s in the manga to fit your agenda

kind owlBOT
#

@sick igloo, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

sick igloo
#

Want me to show you it mentioned in chapter 102?

junior coral
#

Why don’t you fucking explain it to me then

sick igloo
#

Everytime I explain it you call it a headcannon

#

So there’s no point even though there’s like 5 connections between Josuke and Tooru but somehow it’s still a headcannon

#

Man if u wanna hate Tooru just say so, but to say he’s poorly written is just false

junior coral
#

Because it is. We are TOLD that he has these values and beliefs but nothing fucking else. You ever taken a writing class in your life? Have you ever heard the term “show don’t tell”?

sick igloo
#

Actually what’s funny and ironic is that you call whatever isn’t explicitly stated a headcannon

#

The hypocrisy is insane

junior coral
#

No I’m telling you that you rely on everything that is TOO explicitly stated and you built that up like it’s his whole character

sick igloo
#

Bro nearly his entire character is under the surface, Araki thought his audience wasn’t dumb enough to completely miss the character but here we are

junior coral
#

He has no SUBSTANCE. We are told that he’s got these values, we are TOLD that he is the ring leader, we are TOLD he wants to do this and that with the fruit but we don’t ever SEE it. There is no payoff

sick igloo
#

Please explain why Pucci and FV or whoever you think is good is a good villain

vagrant elbow
#

Fucks going on

light swift
sick igloo
junior coral
#

Pucci is my favorite villain because he is extremely well developed, and to me he has the most interesting backstory out of the other 7 mvs. A pawn of Dio, conditioned to believe that Dio's way was the only one that was right... his one lone soldier, Dio's right hand and the last connection to the dark lord. His backstory is complex, he believes that by breaking his brother and sister up he is doing more good than bad, but in the end he kills his sister and fucks up his brother. He ruins his life, and turns to Dio for guidance. His personality and his motives are built from this essential moment in his life, as he goes his whole life trying to figure out WHY things happen the way they do, why fate is so cruel. That is why he is obsessed with the Heaven plan, because in order to combat fate's sometimes random and cruel ways, he must be able to control it

sick igloo
#

That’s a headcannon bro

junior coral
#

You are a troll

vagrant elbow
#

Yeah I like Pucci too he became my favorite villain when he said "There's frogs on my 800$ pants!"

junior coral
#

We're done here

sick igloo
#

Nah u are lmao

#

I’m just using ur logic against you

#

Tooru destroys Pucci in writing lmao

junior coral
#

That's not logical you fucking moron

vagrant elbow
#

WoU looks better than Pucci's 3 stands therefore Tooru > Pucci

junior coral
#

I love Wonder of U a lot

#

He carries TWoY arc

flint blaze
junior coral
#

it's just too bad that he's tied to a twink prick

sick igloo
#

Tooru >>>> Pucci lol

#

Stop denying reality

junior coral
#

How can you have a Jobin profile picture and continue to bootlick Tooru so relentlessly

sick igloo
#

Cuz Tooru is a goat I can change my pfp if u want

#

Tooru is the best antagonist in JJBa imo

junior coral
#

You're such a liar

sick igloo
#

Nah u are the denier of reality

sick igloo
#

Every time someone says something good about Tooru it goes against your agenda so you call it a headcannon

flint blaze
#

Is there anything besides that

sick igloo
kind owlBOT
#

@sick igloo, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

light swift
flint blaze
#

Ok, what?

junior coral
#

You have no fucking evidence at all. Any and all "character" you can say for Tooru is total fucking bullshit. There is no complexity to his character because everything about him is TOLD to us. We never get to see his actions in play. He has piss-poor motives that have no fucking payoff.

sick igloo
#

Also not to mention how both Tooru and Josuke interact with yasuho in different ways and how it affects both their lives

junior coral
#

Barely

#

He interacts with her in the beginning of the arc then fucks off to the woods before he eats shit and dies

sick igloo
#

Josuke cares for yasuho genuinely and builds his own new identity where Tooru only uses yasuho and manipulates her so he can steal the head doctors identity @flint blaze @light swift

junior coral
#

See this is what I fucking mean, we are TOLD that he has this dynamic with yasuho, and that they had this relationship, and yet we don't ever SEE anything with it. Josuke gets jealous of them when he first meets them, but nothing ever comes of it. Tooru tries to rekindle their relationship but she declines and then that's it. These characters do not interact together ever again until Tooru is literally about to die and he is begging for his fucking life

#

That also raises another fucking question, how the hell did he know Yasuho had the ability to track down the real Head Doctor back at that camp?

sick igloo
junior coral
#

Okay now the argument is over

#

Total inability to form your own thoughts

#

Have a good night

light swift
sick igloo
junior coral
#

This guys not even reading what I'm writing

#

for fucks sake waste someone elses time

light swift
#

im sensing bait

sick igloo
#

I am and I disagree if that’s what you think good writing is

junior coral
#

Good writing is "show" don't "tell"

#

Tooru is all talk no bite

sick igloo
#

And I think Tooru shows himself well with his character

junior coral
#

What character?

light swift
#

incredibly powerful ablitity > good character writing

sick igloo
junior coral
#

No, I am genuinely curious, what "character" are you referring to?

sick igloo
#

Anything I say you will Deny because you hate the charatcer

simple nest
#

i seend a meme

junior coral
#

No, that's not how an argument works

sick igloo
#

Like all the dynamics I was saying you don’t care about because you hate the character anyway

junior coral
#

You deliver your side and I rebuke it

#

otherwise what the fuck are we doing here

sick igloo
#

Yeah with your bullshit show not tell which doesn’t explain anything

junior coral
#

yes the fuck it does

simple nest
light swift
#

greeny, im pretty sure he's fucking with you lol

flint blaze
#

Ok I can see what the argument is

junior coral
#

I'm literally asking you to explain to me what about him is so good

#

and you fucking refuse

sick igloo
junior coral
#

I have gone on and on about why he is inadequate as a main villain and you have given me jack

sick igloo
# junior coral and you fucking refuse

I already told you his dynamic with Josuke and I explained it but then you said it was never shown so I don’t wanna waste time trying to convince you

junior coral
#

By the way, I don't hate him, I just think he is a horrible character as a main villain

minor ore
junior coral
sick igloo
junior coral
#

That's what an argument is

junior coral
sick igloo
simple nest
#

dat bad PepeHmYes

minor ore
junior coral
#

Because you keep saying that I'm not going to change my mind but you haven't given me sufficient evidence to make me want to change my fuckning mind

sick igloo
sick igloo
junior coral
#

So you refuse to argue with me because you don't want to be shot down and now you insult my intelligence?

minor ore
junior coral
#

Get the fuck outta here

sick igloo
junior coral
#

Still nothing to show for it

sick igloo
flint blaze
# sick igloo I already told you his dynamic with Josuke and I explained it but then you said ...

Their point is that everything you showed was explicitly told to us instead of shown or implied. I think what they’re saying is this lowers the impact of it because it’s much more boring to simply say he did this and this instead of showing us him doing these actions and making him more of an interesting character. There is much more that can be gained from showing us those scenes and it can ultimately leave him flat

junior coral
#

Thanks for ending the argument I tried to end five fucking minutes ago

vagrant elbow
#

Tooru fucks mad bitches and Pucci's only gotten jackhammer'd by Dio

#

Point proven

vagrant elbow
#

Rock hard because bitches are always on his dick

sick igloo
junior coral
sick igloo
junior coral
#

You think one thing, I disagree, you shit your fucking pants

#

grow the fuck up

sick igloo
flint blaze
junior coral
sick igloo
minor ore
#

dude you wasted his time online you gonna pay for that?

junior coral
#

You’re pathetic

#

I’m fucking your mom

#

Ciao

vagrant elbow
#

Lmao

sick igloo
kind owlBOT
#

@sick igloo, Your Stand Rank is now level 3 !

junior coral
#

Your fav died in the arc he was introduced in

#

Cope

light swift
#

i still refuse to believe to wasn't bait

sick igloo
junior coral
#

??

#

Huh ??

light swift
#

here we go again

sick igloo
junior coral
#

Chicken is baiting

sick igloo
junior coral
#

I have decided

#

Mans can’t even read

flint blaze
kind owlBOT
#

@flint blaze, Your Stand Rank is now level 19 !

sick igloo
#

You think I’m baiting I’ve actually written multiple analysis on toorus character and I really like him as a villain but somehow you can’t understand that that’s a real human opinion and not bait so ok I guess call me a baiter

junior coral
#

“I have written multiple analysis on Tooru’s character 🤓”

#

Touch some grass homie

sick igloo
#

💀💀

junior coral
#

I’m playing Fortnite as we speak

#

You are of no interest to me anymore

sick igloo
#

Mans getting mad over comic book characters

#

Please go outside

junior coral
#

Original!

sick igloo
#

Bro you are probably 50000 pounds

junior coral
#

Hey who’s dick is bigger, mine or yours?

#

I think mine!

sick igloo
#

“Guys I JUST WON THE DEBATE ON DISCORD OVER WHICH CHARACTER IS BETTER HAHAHAHAHA HE CANT DEBATE ME GUYS”

junior coral
#

I am always right

#

That’s just something you’re gonna have to realize

sick igloo
#

Are you god?

junior coral
#

Sure

#

You said it not me

sick igloo
#

It was a yes or no question

minor ore
light swift
#

he losing head

minor ore
#

"so no head?"

nimble bough
#

So when head?

patent basalt
#

@acoustic island

frozen yoke
#

ajajajajajaj jojolion bye bye!

fierce schooner
#

I had a weird ass dream about Jojolion where Joshu had his character arc completed when he changed his yee yee ass hair cut to a fugly cow lick

spark dagger
#

part 9 thoughts?

minor ore
#

Never happening.

spark dagger
hard meteor
#

funny!

vocal gust
minor ore
#

Jojo fans when Araki wants to retire and spend time with his family instead of continuing to grow old in a cramped office drawing cartoons

#

But still, dont be 100% doubting the possibility

#

It might happen

#

He just wants Josuke and Yasuho to be happy

spark dagger
#

araki has a wife and kids?

minor ore
#

Yes

#

A wife and 2 daughters

spark dagger
#

wth i never knew that