#jojolion
minor ore
smoky anchor
^
minor ore
yeah as soon as i saw him pop out the ground i knew id love him
hot bridge
Jojolion is the most bizzare jojo part
minor ore
I’d be lying if I said the Fun Fun Fun fight wasn’t a great setup for Josuke to show off his stand’s abilities to the reader for the first time
smoky anchor
Instant hit
uneven tendon
Same actually
minor ore
I’d be lying if I said the Fun Fun Fun fight wasn’t a great setup for Josuke to ...
yeah
uneven tendon
uneven tendon
minor ore
im not gonna lie
hot bridge
Fun fun fun was sick but nothing can beat SBRs intro
minor ore
tooru got some style imo
near cedar
I’d be lying if I said the Fun Fun Fun fight wasn’t a great setup for Josuke to ...
except for the part where that ability will be going away soon after that arc
smoky anchor
I took my time with SBR cos i didnt really wanna speed read it but JJL just got me obsessed instantly
uneven tendon
There's still time for Plunder to return
smoky anchor
I just thought "lemme read the first chapter" and instantly obsessed
hot bridge
That was me with all of them
near cedar
There's still time for Plunder to return
This is the logic of, "Star Finger is surely gonna be used again"
It's gone accept it
minor ore
Josuke used Plunder to unfriction himself in order to speedrun to the household
uneven tendon
Star Finger was stupid, Plunder was awesome and useful
minor ore
Star finger did come back after the Dark Blue Moon fight
near cedar
both got silently retconned away
minor ore
He used it against Anubis
uneven tendon
I won't accept it's gone until the part is over
hot bridge
It's gone accept it
SHUT TGE FUCK UP YOU LITTLE CUBT YOU REALLY TGINK YOU KNOW WHAR YOU ARE TAKJUBV ABOYT I JBRFF HISD HKOJ AKHM AHHHHHH!!!!!
near cedar
Star finger did come back after the Dark Blue Moon fight
Just like Plunder it was used a few times, and then never again
minor ore
seeing jobin kill norisuke was just
uneven tendon
He used it against Anubis
That was added in the anime
near cedar
SHUT TGE FUCK UP YOU LITTLE CUBT YOU REALLY TGINK YOU KNOW WHAR YOU ARE TAKJUBV ...
Don't insult people
smoky anchor
He used it against Anubis
And monkey
minor ore
Nah, he has been confirmed not dead
uneven tendon
The attack was ''minor''
minor ore
i dont remember him waking up in 108
norisuke corporation living another day
wonder of u just climbed out
We gonna outlive everybody
minor ore
that is anime only
Yeah but that’s why I still think theres a chance it can come back. He used it on Forever too which was nice.
minor ore
that panel in 108 with jobins body though
uneven tendon
i dont remember him waking up in 108
hot bridge
Oh yeah, he might be ded
kind owlBOT
@hot bridge, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !
hot bridge
Who knows what Tooru has in store for him tho
smoky anchor
Thats what Tsurugi is saying
ember copper
I know what I have to do but I don’t know if I have the strength to do it
smoky anchor
The real main villain 
minor ore
yeah i read the chapter he doesnt wake up, wonder of u climbs out of his mouth
uneven tendon
Who knows what Tooru has in store for him tho
Tooru died
minor ore
tooru did die
minor ore
Who knows what Tooru has in store for him tho
In the afterlife maybe
uneven tendon
yeah i read the chapter he doesnt wake up, wonder of u climbs out of his mouth
And then Josuke saves him
hot bridge
Then wtf was that last bit
minor ore
WoU outlived the user
uneven tendon
Then wtf was that last bit
hot bridge
<:lessssspersueeeee:855741058398027777>
Holy shit
minor ore
And then Josuke saves him
we'll see what happened in the next chapter
ember copper
Then wtf was that last bit
With wou and norisuke?
uneven tendon
we'll see what happened in the next chapter
We saw he saved Norisuke lol
With Go Beyond
ember copper
make sure its trish hentai too
Only kaato
hot bridge
Make it Jotaro x Jolyne hentai pls
minor ore
did norisuke wake up
uneven tendon
make sure its trish hentai too
minor ore
Make it Jotaro x Jolyne hentai pls
I already have plenty of that
uneven tendon
did norisuke wake up
Waking up =/=dead
hot bridge
Sheesh, I thought Jolyne was 18
uneven tendon
19
minor ore
Waking up =/=dead
just because jobin held back doesnt mean his attack wasnt lethal
No, talking about the Trish thing
norisuke still could be dead
Also, that's still bad
minor ore
just because jobin held back doesnt mean his attack wasnt lethal
I think that’s what I means
Jfc
uneven tendon
just because jobin held back doesnt mean his attack wasnt lethal
The manga literally states he will be fine, and he was saved from WoU which would've killed him hadn't Josuke used Go Beyond
hot bridge
So trish is more concerning than Jotaro x Jolyne?
minor ore
The manga literally states he will be fine, and he was saved from WoU which woul...
i see
uneven tendon
Both are equally bad
hot bridge
No
minor ore
i love stories where everyone dies
hot bridge
I don’t
uneven tendon
i love stories where everyone dies
Jojolion doesn't seem like one of those stories
minor ore
Jojolion doesn't seem like one of those stories
it doesnt but i love it anyway
hot bridge
Fuck you
uneven tendon
What?
minor ore
i see
Yeah plus Jobin did the same attack on Yasuho and she ended up fine
oh shit
Good job
fuck i didnt mean to do that
I mean I’m sure it doesn’t matter anyways
hot bridge
Nah it’s good I really don’t care
minor ore
well, not everyone dies
uneven tendon
Yeah plus Jobin did the same attack on Yasuho and she ended up fine
She's too good to die
hot bridge
Good to know, but let’s not talk any further about hellsing
I still haven’t watched it
minor ore
if youre watching it i think youll be very pleased with its ending @hot bridge
hot bridge
Sick
minor ore
I don’t even know what that is, but what I do know is that Jojolion has 1 more year under its belt
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<:dayasuho:830545178187530340>
I love this so much
minor ore
Yasuho is literally the perfect female character in JoJo and not enough people understand this
😔
near cedar
Don't talk about other anime spoilers here even if it's just an implication
minor ore
Don't talk about other anime spoilers here even if it's just an implication
sorry about that
hot bridge
He didn’t mean to, so it’s fine
Anyway, it’s 3:00 in the morning and I have to catch a flight tomorrow at 10, so goodbye!
uneven tendon
So, how do you think Joshu will get his arm back?
Maybe Josuke will use that 2nd New Locacaca branch?
minor ore
i dont think he will tbh
oh wait i forgot about tha
He won't, he will replace it with a cybernetic and we will get a Roboshu
Cyborshu
Joborg
uneven tendon
🦾 
upper knoll
near cedar
yes
upper knoll
typical speedreader... . . .. 🙄
minor ore
me tbh
near cedar
They put him in that while taking him to the hospital
uneven tendon
https://twitter.com/schr0der/status/1406777918336946178
Maybe he encounters another person under the Milagro Man curse
minor ore
joshu meets karera (and holly) in the hospital, josuke heals both holly and him, they become friends, then Joshu marries karera.
uneven tendon
And decides to end it once and for all
upper knoll
milagro man 2??? lesss go
uneven tendon
And he won't be the only one
near cedar
joshu meets karera (and holly) in the hospital, josuke heals both holly and him,...
Stop forcing him on women
uneven tendon
The ghosts of Rai, Kei, Jobin, Josefumi, Kira and Caato will also help him
And yes, Karera will be there too
upper knoll
half of these people didnt know him, did they?
uneven tendon
Stop forcing him on women
Do you have better alternatives?
uneven tendon
half of these people didnt know him, did they?
No, but they have heard many great things about him
minor ore
Karera and Joshu are perfect
near cedar
Yes, nobody
uneven tendon
And watched him from the sky
upper knoll
true true my mistake
minor ore
near cedar
no
minor ore
Joshu and Karera are the true counterpart to Jonathan and Erina
uneven tendon
uneven tendon
https://twitter.com/schr0der/status/1406777918336946178
It reminds me of this post
dire furnace
Joshu peak fiction
upper knoll
lol
near cedar
Joshu peak fiction
no such thing
dire furnace
wrong
near cedar
correct
upper knoll
typical joshu hater
dire furnace
Joshu exists so you're wrong
minor ore
I doubt we will actually get anything Joshurera related but I do want to see a conclusion like Part 4's where they show what everyone is doing after all the events, and Joshu & Karera are fighting each other after meeting at the hospital
near cedar
No such thing as peak fiction
dire furnace
Joshu literally exists ????
upper knoll
actually peak fiction is diamond is unbreakable :/
minor ore
Rai 🤝 Hatsuke 🤝 Joshu
Being peak fiction
near cedar
Joshu literally exists ????
Yes, and i hate him, and because i hate him he can't be peak fiction, because peak fiction is something everyone will like
dire furnace
Yes, and i hate him, and because i hate him he can't be peak fiction, because pe...
nobody likes you
because your opinion is wrong
dire furnace
Ungalo peak fiction
minor ore
nobody likes you
Damn, bullying Erik 
uneven tendon
BTW, what did you think of my daily Joshu appreciation in #jojo-overall-discussion ?
near cedar
nobody likes you
Also incorrect
minor ore
Did you make that lmao
uneven tendon
Ungalo could bring Joshu to life
near cedar
Ungalo can die of an overdose
gaunt lintel
Ungalo > joshu
smoky anchor
gaunt lintel
I dont like Joshu all too much :/
minor ore
smoky anchor
dire furnace
can Ungalo beat Goku ??
uneven tendon
What Tooru took from us
gaunt lintel
can Ungalo beat Goku ??
I mean
uneven tendon
dire furnace
Kira 8 woulda murdered Tooru
minor ore
What Tooru took from us
baby kei 
uneven tendon
8 year old
near cedar
Kira 8 woulda murdered Tooru
Ha ha ha ha no
smoky anchor
WoU affects automatic stands normally right?
kind owlBOT
@smoky anchor, Your Hamon Rank is now level 7 !
minor ore
Well yeah, since they can still be harmed.
smoky anchor
Like the flow would affect the user even if the damage the stand takes doesnt affect the user
smoky anchor
Oh true lmao
near cedar
WoU killed her
minor ore
Like the flow would affect the user even if the damage the stand takes doesnt af...
Don't automatic Stands still transfer harm to the user tho
smoky anchor
Not always
uneven tendon
💪
proper hedge
I'd say that Ungalo = Joshu
a bit
heavy ledge
Im kinda disappointed we didnt see hato do anything
Not like she could have done anything with a power stand tho
minor ore
she's there for assets
heavy ledge
French fries design
minor ore
there's an arrow motif with the higashikatas
joshu has arrows on his shirt
hato has arrow hair
mitsuba has an arrow stand
weird
heavy ledge
Jobin has none
heavy ledge
Maybe they just like arrows
minor ore
yes
heavy ledge
Theres also teddy bear motif
Appart from toorus bears theres this question norisuke asks
minor ore
teddy bears i think its supposed to represent the yankee
heavy ledge
The porn magazine
And those are all the bears i can remember
Smol kei and the bear
minor ore
also robots
from the question norisuke asks
jobins room also has robot toys
and the basement with tsurugi and yoshikages room has robots
r9k
shaddup thatdude
The gay twink wannabe told me to shut up
shut up anyways
Norisuke has balls on his hair
So does Yasuho
With my expert narrative and story analysis skills I can confirm that they are secret lovers
norisuke does like yasuho being around
and cares for her clearly
so
minor ore
that they like soft things and are easy going
something like that
and there was the opposite of yankee but i dont remember ho it was called
@lucid locust in relation to this, another villain that gets over-hyped is damo, like beside the meme and the joking, he is overhyped
minor ore
"WAOH, so scariest minor villlin damo is so cool and care best ark in jojel~!!"
minor ore
he's unironically a great character
he is
but ive seen people hyping him up way too much
like more than it should be
lucid locust
He’s a great character but I honestly prefer his stand to him, Vitamin C is a cool stand.
minor ore
"WAOH, so scariest minor villlin damo is so cool and care best ark in jojel~!!"
You have to understand that his reveal was incredible in real time
That paired with the flashback chapters
It intertwined amazingly
i was disappointed, like i thought it would be a bigger deal depending on what i heard
Blew everyone away
near cedar
but ive seen people hyping him up way too much
So JJL is the new SBR and will now be the center of a circle jerk? If Damo is any indication
minor ore
Yeah
wait wdy,
wdym
You know how everyone loves SBR?
Says it’s the best Jojo part ever
near cedar
Stuff from SBR gets hyped to hell, a bit too much imo
minor ore
That’s part 8 now
lucid locust
Every part has its circle jerky fanbase
near cedar
I'm saying if Damo is any indication the same will happen to JJL
minor ore
And things will get “overhyped” or whatever
yeah i agree then, this will soon be the case for jojolion too
minor ore
you can say that i guess
near cedar
Some people act like it's the best thing ever
And i'm just looking at it thinking it's good but not the best thing ever
near cedar
Hell the writing of some side characters regressed to parts 1&2 where a bunch of them do basically nothing
minor ore
its my favourite but realistically eh maybe not the best araki ever did
we'll see depending on how it concludes
heavy ledge
How is damo not cool enough to be over hyped though
near cedar
Joshu, Diaya, Hato, Rai, Kei have all done 1 or maybe 2 things and then just exist after
minor ore
How is damo not cool enough to be over hyped though
That’s what I’m thinking
near cedar
No Kei didn't even exist after
Kei just didn't exist for half the part
And came back to die a crappy death
lucid locust
Hato cute tho
minor ore
Joshu, Diaya, Hato, Rai, Kei have all done 1 or maybe 2 things and then just exi...
Rai? Joshu?
I’d argue that they’re pretty important
near cedar
Joshu
Has not
Had a single actual stand fight
With another person
The most he had was fighting a curse like stand
minor ore
Stand fights don’t define plot usefulness in Jojolion
near cedar
Nut King Call is about as underused as Magican's Red
lucid locust
The Higashikata’s need more screen time
minor ore
It was Joshu’s selfishness that pushed Yasuho to eat the fruit, revealing the ability of the new Rokakaka in front of Tooru.
Araki used him very cleverly
near cedar
I could give less of a shit
lucid locust
He was used well when he was used, but he and the others haven’t done enough stuff.
minor ore
I only advocated for Joshu and Rai
near cedar
And i don't think Rai even got his own fight that he won
summer nova
when 2 sigma males meet 🕴️
lucid locust
I wanna see Hato fuck someone else up
minor ore
And i don't think Rai even got his own fight that he won
It doesn’t matter, he was at Josuke’s side the entire time he was around
lucid locust
minor ore
For almost every fight
minor ore
I don’t think Rai is below Caesar
He’s a better side character
Jojolion is just so main character focused that side characters don’t have a lot of room to get their own unique stand fights
If that’s what you think makes a side character useful or whatever
heavy ledge
Chars were goodly used when required
near cedar
Jojolion is just so main character focused that side characters don’t have a lot...
So are part 1 and 2
heavy ledge
If i want to see more of x char it means they were introduced and were cool enough for me to want to see more
near cedar
part 1 and 2 have side characters who are wasted as far as getting to fight and strut their stuff
heavy ledge
If i didnt want to see more of them then they werent well written
minor ore
Jojolion has more side characters than part 1 and 2
Rereading Jojolion I actually noticed how often the higashikata family appears
heavy ledge
There are more chars than the other parts ig?
near cedar
It's a manga about fighting where most of the side characters don't fight
minor ore
cause well
near cedar
And we don't get to see their cool abilities
minor ore
theyre side characters
heavy ledge
They all fought wdym
smoky anchor
So they showed their cool ability
minor ore
it depends on the structure of the part man
heavy ledge
Holy is the only char that hasnt done anything with her supposedly stand
minor ore
it depends on the structure of the part man
jojolion much like part 4 are bigger scale
cant have every single side character do 50 things and have fleshed out backstories that connect to a little element
smoky anchor
I much prefer it thid way than someone like daiya appearing from somewhere to be in a fight
heavy ledge
Jojolion would last 20 years if everyone had the same screen time(i wish)
minor ore
To be honest it’s not even their business. All the key characters have a reason to fight/ get involved
Jobin, Tsurugi, Josuke, Yasuho, Rai
They all have reasons to get involved with the rock humans
Daiya and Hato don’t really have anything to do with them. Hato did once and she fought when she needed to
near cedar
So they showed their cool ability
by that logic Avdol showed off everything he can do
He didn't
heavy ledge
I much prefer it thid way than someone like daiya appearing from somewhere to be...
How is daiya going to fight anyway
minor ore
by that logic Avdol showed off everything he can do
what?
near cedar
How is daiya going to fight anyway
she can set rules that if you break, you then lose memories
Any rules
For Josuke it was no fussing over her
smoky anchor
Difference with avdol is that hes part of the main crew
near cedar
He's there
does something twice-ish
saves Pol
Dies
saves Pol
saves Pol a 3rd time dies
heavy ledge
She cant even see
near cedar
She sees poorly
heavy ledge
Just walk away
near cedar
And doesn't need to see to screw somebody over with her stand
She nearly beat Josuke
without being able to see well
heavy ledge
Josuke had the enormous disadvantage of being amnesiac
minor ore
say "aye" then pronounce the letters "map" separately and lastly say "ness"
minor ore
Josuke had the enormous disadvantage of being amnesiac
She also had the advantage because she’s in her own house
near cedar
She was in her house when Damo attacked
heavy ledge
And norisuke told him to take care of her
heavy ledge
Damo is one of the most powerful stands once its set up
minor ore
She was in her house when Damo attacked
And Damo’s stand totally rekt her
In her own house
near cedar
yes because Araki decided to not make her relevant in the fight
Is Rai even a main character, cuz i can't tell is he a side character or main character
heavy ledge
Joshu and daiya were melted and had nothing to do with that fight, that fight was haato and josukes for different reasons
It would have no sense for daiya to get into that
minor ore
It would make no sense for her to get into any fight after King Bed arc tbh
What’s the word I’m looking for
I guess she’s not relevant to the plot
heavy ledge
Good night im falling asleep
near cedar
It would have no sense for daiya to get into that
Your house being under attack by a guy trying to murder your family and it doesn't make sense to try and help them
Logik
Still waiting on is Rai considered a main character or not
minor ore
Good night im falling asleep
Night dude
smoky anchor
Kinda but not really
Hes like more main than some side character that got introduced late like wekapipo
minor ore
Good night im falling asleep
gn jose
smoky anchor
And i cant really think of other characters who fall in to the same situation
minor ore
It’s his relationship with Norisuke and his past experience with the head doctor that kind of shift him up from side chapter status
Also how he never left Josuke’s side from the moment they met
minor ore
He shined during Endless Calamity
near cedar
Dying gruesomely is shining?
minor ore
I won’t let me post it
summer nova
trolld
minor ore
But page 25/26 of Chapter 100 are good examples of Rai having his moment
Right after the Head Doctor reveals how personal this fight his to him, he destroys D7 and saves Josuke
Then proceeds to get the closest anyone has ever gotten to WoU, even Tooru is impressed
He died an honorable death that was not in vain
like Caesar except he’s in a better part lol
summer nova
also gave arguably one of the biggest reveals in jojo's bizarre adventure
right before he passed away
his death was so powerful that josuke still heard his spirit for a couple of chapters
minor ore
like Caesar except he’s in a better part lol
And a better character
near cedar
Caesar's death gave Joseph a power up
daring bear
jojolion moment
uneven tendon
but ive seen people hyping him up way too much
Meanwhile, Poor Tom is underhyped
And Aisho
minor ore
Eyyy I’m walkn’ here
and sounds like he smokes 10 packs a day
strange lava
I figured it's pretty early on
strange lava
Badass
flint eagle
jojolion have manga? lol
smoky anchor
I believe so?
mossy sinew
Yes?
pallid solar
brittle lodge
part 9 is the best part
minor ore
jjl is mid compared to blood ghost 
minor ore
I hope we have another arc after this one because as of now I don’t feel satisfied with Tooru
hard meteor
we most certainly will
minor ore
Ok good
I think I’m able to explain why I don’t like Tooru more clearly too
So a common critique is that Tooru was just dropped on people right?
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 12 !
minor ore
A common response to that is that “Well Tooru was manipulating and in the lives of so many people so it’s all leading up to this”
The issue I have is that whilst that’s the case it feels really artificial
crisp vigil
tooru really doesn’t feel like the boss of the locacaca organization
busted stand but the personality isn’t there
damo fits the role more but vitamin c is nowhere near as broken as wonder if u
minor ore
Damo is a much more compelling villain
brittle lodge
i dont like things that are like "haha no no no can't touch me"
dire furnace
Tooru stinky poopoo
crisp vigil
minor ore
We basically just got an extended Steely Dan fight
Nah but I should explain what I meant by Artificial
dire furnace
Batman with prep time beats Tooru
brittle lodge
lmao
dire furnace
Tooru can't even beat Goku 🥱🥱🥱
minor ore
All of the past issues and history people had with Tooru and the Head Doctor were only brought to light during the Wonder of U/Calamity arc
tame plover
Bruh batman preping would activate WoU 💀
tame plover
Lmao
crisp vigil
if we got a scene of urban guerrilla or damo or smth taking to a shadow-diavolo-type tooru, would you like that better than him just popping up in the hospital?
tame plover
“Oh no I tripped and accidentally tossed a batarang into your eye”
dire furnace
oopsie daisy 🤪
minor ore
if we got a scene of urban guerrilla or damo or smth taking to a shadow-diavolo-...
Yes, or better yet, move some of those flashback scenes earlier in the part
For example, I reckon if the scene with the funeral for Rai’s Dad was before that arc, it would be much more foreshadowing
dire furnace
i like the concept of Tooru
the idea of an insecure kid with an alter ego that's the head of an illegal fruit trade
crisp vigil
yo a tooru silhouette at rai’s fathers’s funeral would be cool
dire furnace
but it for sure could've been fleshed out better
vocal gust
Tooru is like 40
minor ore
And people say “oh we first saw Tooru helping out Wu Tomoki when Poor Tom died”
But the problem with THAT
dire furnace
rock humans age differently than regular humans
just because he's 40 doesn't mean he's mentally 40 by our standards
vocal gust
He goes 'kill this bitch yasuhoooo'
dire furnace
its like how other animals mature a lot faster or slower than humans
minor ore
The problem with saying “he was foreshadowed since Poor Tom” Is that it’s like saying “Having Doppio be introduced by having him sit next to Carne is forshadowing for him to be the main villain”
vocal gust
its like how other animals mature a lot faster or slower than humans
Mans was gonna kill all of humanity
dire furnace
so was 20 year old Dio
vocal gust
o sht
dire furnace
i dont really think the concept of "kill everything you don't like" is a mature one.
plus Tooru wanted fortune and power
minor ore
I wish we had some form of a benevolent rock human
dire furnace
and i think to make rock humans the top species ?
vocal gust
Dolimiti was kinda chill but they're all kinda immature
minor ore
The entire Smuggling Group IMO were very mature
brave geyser
imagine not being a silicon based life form
minor ore
I’d say the only ones that weren’t were Poor Tom, Urban and Tooru
uneven tendon
I hope we have another arc after this one because as of now I don’t feel satisfi...
We will get more flashbacks with him
crisp vigil
poor tom lil baby
dire furnace
imagine been led by the rock humans equivalent of a teenager
minor ore
We will get more flashbacks with him
That still doesn’t negate how forced the other ones were though
uneven tendon
The entire Smuggling Group IMO were very mature
They weren't lol
vocal gust
Why they were forced?
I think thats what Tooru wanted but its not fleshed out too much, many would die with the serum
uneven tendon
Nah
uneven tendon
WoU just tried to kill Josuke through 6521
dire furnace
Liam is a Tooru kinnie i hate him 😡😡😡😡
uneven tendon
Nobody would die, especially considering how many tests they performed and how it was almost finished
elfin holly
where can i read jojolion colored
crisp vigil
only colored so far
elfin holly
ok thank you
dire furnace
dont read jojolion
crisp vigil
not the whole thing is colored
dire furnace
it sucks
minor ore
It sucks
Just because Tooru’s colours aren’t the best doesn’t mean the others aren’t good lol
Also
uneven tendon
Just because Tooru’s colours aren’t the best doesn’t mean the others aren’t good...
Others weren't good either
vocal gust
Nobody would die, especially considering how many tests they performed and how i...
Its been a bit but wasnt Wu the only one who was keeping people from being killed by the process? I don't remember them coming out with one that had no possible negative effects other than the new locococo
elfin holly
Others weren't good either
i like how gappy is colored
dire furnace
i saw a really cool color scheme for gappy and s&w the other day
crisp vigil
imagine having a nice convo then this guy comes in to say “no” to everything
tame plover
Gappy with brown clothes is the worst
minor ore
They weren't lol
Yotsuyu was able to respect his opponents including Tsurugi, a 9 year old
Aisho was heart broken but a well meaning individual who was just following orders
The Aphex Twins were assassins that wanted to spend time and hang out as Bros without being interrupted
Damako is a methodical sadist who just wants to run the company efficiently
crisp vigil
i like how gappy is colored
better than josuke’s dirt orange piss colors, for sure 😳
uneven tendon
Its been a bit but wasnt Wu the only one who was keeping people from being kille...
Because it isn't really possible to have a Locacaca without side effects
Aisho was not well meaning lmao
He tried to kill a kid
tame plover
Supposedly the fully ripped grafted fruit could bypass this
uneven tendon
And was very greedy
dire furnace
this is a really nice color ngl
crisp vigil
jeans
dire furnace
i like it
minor ore
And was very greedy
Ah yes
The drug smuggler who works for money wants money
uneven tendon
Supposedly the fully ripped grafted fruit could bypass this
The 2nd branch is still out there, so we might actually see the ripe fruit
dire furnace
S&W specifically
uneven tendon
this is a really nice color ngl
It is very nice indeed
dire furnace
he looks like butter
junior coral
Wb this
crisp vigil
Because it isn't really possible to have a Locacaca without side effects
yeah, didn’t mitsuba return to wu multiple times because her ears & such turned to rock?
kind owlBOT
@elfin holly, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !
uneven tendon
yeah, didn’t mitsuba return to wu multiple times because her ears & such turned ...
Yeah
minor ore
he looks like butter
Butter S&W
The S&W with the butter on it
uneven tendon
Green
crisp vigil
i’m a sucker for jojo’s colored in yellow
junior coral
Neither color scheme is of my own picking
elfin holly
Soft and wet looks great but gappy looks like piss
fr
uneven tendon
Do you consider any of the rock humans ''mature'' or ''well meaning''?
junior coral
Both are from volume arts and other pieces by araki
dire furnace
who colors the jjl manga again ?
elfin holly
im waiting for part 5 to be animated
junior coral
They are a different species with different mindsets — not comparably to humans in that regard
elfin holly
it will be so good
uneven tendon
who colors the jjl manga again ?
Shueisha
junior coral
who colors the jjl manga again ?
Shuiesha, the publishing company for JoJo in Japan
dire furnace
they should be fired
uneven tendon
Who will fire them
dire furnace
me
uneven tendon
Good luck
dire furnace
my eyes have been opened to butter S&W
junior coral
Who is they
crisp vigil
the age old question:
junior coral
The entire company?
dire furnace
yea
crisp vigil
brown, blonde, or pink hair yasuho?
junior coral
Pink
minor ore
Hopefully pink
junior coral
Without a doubt
uneven tendon
Brown?
junior coral
No question
dire furnace
i will shut shuiesha down
vocal gust
Do you consider any of the rock humans ''mature'' or ''well meaning''?
None of them gave the protags any time to be well meaning, they were all out for blood. It's hard to tell Tooru's stance in that world but he was willing to kill.
dire furnace
part 8 is vento aureo but with fruit
uneven tendon
?
dire furnace
the fruit mafia gon get me 😱😱😱
uneven tendon
Most of them weren't out for blood, they were greedy assholes
junior coral
Yes but actually no
uneven tendon
Or a racist, in Urban Guerrilla's case
crisp vigil
yeah urban is just racist
minor ore
How many pages do you guys think the WoU arc would be reduced by if you remove all the repeated information?
uneven tendon
So it's always good to have reminders
uneven tendon
WoU is the coolest stand in JJL since S&W
vocal gust
Most of them weren't out for blood, they were greedy assholes
They only met them with their stands, like right before they were going to kill gappy or yasuho. Always stand ability. Tooru was at the end of it all, and unfortunately we aren't told his plans, but he met people with hostility and selfish motivation
uneven tendon
Tooru sucks ass tho
crisp vigil
tooru just became a philosopher near the end of his arc
dire furnace
shoulda gave WoU a gun like Whitesnake
dire furnace
tooru just became a philosopher near the end of his arc
all jofoes do
uneven tendon
They only met them with their stands, like right before they were going to kill ...
We were told of Tooru's plans though
crisp vigil
all jofoes do
true
junior coral
Tooru sucks ass tho
Agreed
uneven tendon
He wanted the New Locacaca for money and power
junior coral
Tooru is lame but WoU is a beast
minor ore
You also keep in mind that there are a bunch of people who forget info
There are adjacent chapters that repeat the exact same information though
I don’t think people would have that poor of a memory
And if they did
crisp vigil
love tooru’s outfit tho, and the ipod dancing panel
minor ore
They could just reread the previous chapter
dire furnace
Tooru is like if Doppio was the main villain and Diavolo was the side antagonist
uneven tendon
?
minor ore
Tooru is like if Doppio was the main villain and Diavolo was the side antagonist
Not really because Doppio is better than Diavolo imo
uneven tendon
But WoU and Tooru have the same personality
dire furnace
do not question me Liam
vocal gust
Tooru is one of the best characters Araki has ever created
I would agree if there was more of him, but I think I like Valentine more
minor ore
A more apt metaphor would be if Diavolo didn’t have Doppio
uneven tendon
There will be more of him
minor ore
Liam he’s dead
uneven tendon
Tooru may be dead but we're not quite over with him
There's still a lot of mysteries surrounding him
dire furnace
Liam coping arc
minor ore
Not really?
uneven tendon
Yes really
minor ore
Like what?
uneven tendon
Rai's orchard
dire furnace
get ready for 100 Tooru flashbacks
uneven tendon
Why did he infest it with D7's
vocal gust
I'm holding out for WoU to have given roughly the same properties as shakedown road
uneven tendon
What is his last name
crisp vigil
yeah so far tooru was introduced 75% into the story, compared to the rest that’s quite late
uneven tendon
Why did he target Holy
uneven tendon
Organization stuff
junior coral
Liam coping arc
minor ore
Why did he infest it with D7's
To fuck with Rai’s family and likely get land to harvest locacaca on
dire furnace
WoU was just a vessel
minor ore
What is his last name
What’s Diavolo’s?
junior coral
Tooru
uneven tendon
What’s Diavolo’s?
Unknown
junior coral
I think the Tooru last name thing wasn’t meant to go anywhere
dire furnace
Josuke dies in the final chapter and the last thing he sees is WoU giving him the finger
junior coral
Good
dire furnace
all bad jojo villains have no last name
crisp vigil
What’s Diavolo’s?
i would assume doppio’s last name as well
likely it’s just diavolo, i don’t think the devil has a last name 🙃
uneven tendon
minor ore
i would assume doppio’s last name as well
likely it’s just diavolo, i don’t thin...
CLEVER
dire furnace
Tooru bad villain confirmed
uneven tendon
If Tooru's last name didn't matter, I don't see why it would be brought up in an info page
junior coral
Now that he’s dead they can Google his last name
dire furnace
imagine it was fuckin Smith or some common shit like that
junior coral
If Tooru's last name didn't matter, I don't see why it would be brought up in an...
If Giorno doesn’t matter in Part 6 I don’t see why he would be brought up in an info page 
uneven tendon
Maybe his name is Tooru Kishibe?
minor ore
If Tooru's last name didn't matter, I don't see why it would be brought up in an...
I think that was literally just because searching for it would reveal his identity. Not because it was ground breaking
vocal gust
If Tooru's last name didn't matter, I don't see why it would be brought up in an...
You think he has a human parent or something
crisp vigil
tooru kujo 😳😳
dire furnace
Tooru Joestar 😱😱😱
crisp vigil
Maybe his name is Tooru Kishibe?
i am not against that whatsoever
junior coral
Tooru Jones
minor ore
Tooru YourMum
junior coral
I am all for Tooru Yamagishi
dire furnace
Tooru Tooru
uneven tendon
Tooru Mista
minor ore
Tooru Kefu
junior coral
Parallels Yukako in that he has an almost weird obsessive relationship with a Hirose
dire furnace
Tooru Brando
uneven tendon
Tooru Anasui
crisp vigil
tooru tamami
dire furnace
Tooru Jojolion
minor ore
Also to mention Holly, I think with her it’s because they wanted to experiment on a human
crisp vigil
tooru lion lol
uneven tendon
tooru tamami
His last name was Kobayashi
crisp vigil
His last name was Kobayashi
thought kobayashi was his first name?
uneven tendon
Point is, there will still be stuff to explain about Tooru, even without flashbacks
dire furnace
also stand users are naturally drawn to each other which is probably why she was chosen 😳😳
minor ore
thought kobayashi was his first name?
Nah Kobayashi is a common surname
crisp vigil
ah ok
minor ore
If they did more Tooru stuff, it would just be annoying rather than interesting IMO
crisp vigil
araki just loves to introduce all these stands with unnecessary humanoid forms just to drop them for 5 years after the ability is shown
uneven tendon
If they did more Tooru stuff, it would just be annoying rather than interesting ...
Why would Araki just leave stuff unanswered for no real reason?
minor ore
Why would Araki just leave stuff unanswered for no real reason?
Because the other things around Tooru don’t matter
dire furnace
because Tooru doesnt deserve a last name 😡😡
uneven tendon
They do
Just because a character is dead, doesn't mean you can't learn more about them
The same thing happened for all the other rock humans
vocal gust
and Jesus Christ
uneven tendon
Or characters in general
vocal gust
I hope they do more with the curse/corpse and dont just leave that one open ended
minor ore
Jojolion last chapter has me thinking alot
But none of the other characters had a poorly paced battle that lasted several years
It’s tiring
uneven tendon
Jojolion last chapter has me thinking alot
It's not last chapter
crisp vigil
corpse hasn’t been seen since chapter ~20ish iirc, don’t think it’s coming back
hard meteor
what
uneven tendon
corpse hasn’t been seen since chapter ~20ish iirc, don’t think it’s coming back
A saint's corpse will be brought back, but not for Jesus
minor ore
It's not last chapter
Ik im meant latest chapter
crisp vigil
A saint's corpse will be brought back, but not for Jesus
i like your thinking
minor ore
corpse hasn’t been seen since chapter ~20ish iirc, don’t think it’s coming back
In fairness Araki has brought back things that weren’t mentioned for ages
dire furnace
SAINT JOHNNY
hard meteor
wasnt the pine tree showed in the very first page of 108 thats obviously coming back
uneven tendon
For real though, saint Johnny is basically a fact
hard meteor
yes its been built up for years at this point
crisp vigil
In fairness Araki has brought back things that weren’t mentioned for ages
literally born this way, gone for 8 years 😎
minor ore
What about the healing shrine?
uneven tendon
Hopefully we will also see Lucy again in another flashback
uneven tendon
What about the healing shrine?
Johnny
minor ore
Araki gameplan when he writes these manga is "make these people confused out of their mind"
uneven tendon
He is seemingly buried there
hard meteor
What about the healing shrine?
the healing shrine is connected to the pine trine/johnny
uneven tendon
Metal, I have a question
hard meteor
and that was shown in the very first page of the new chapter it will absolutly be brought up
uneven tendon
Do you think that Araki will just forget about the other mysteries surrounding Tooru?
hard meteor
nah
minor ore
Do you think that Araki will just forget about the other mysteries surrounding T...
I dont think so
uneven tendon
hard meteor
araki set up these things for a reason
minor ore
Maybe he will address it here and there
hard meteor
he has never left major plotpoints unresolved in all his years writing jojo no way he wouldnt do it now
minor ore
He likes making puzzles that we gotta put together
Tooru’s name isn’t a major plot point
uneven tendon
It is
hard meteor
its setup to be important
uneven tendon
It wouldn't be brought up multiple times, even in an info page, for no reason
uneven tendon
Tooru Pucci
minor ore
That is one messed up Zeppeli
minor ore
It wouldn't be brought up multiple times, even in an info page, for no reason
I never even knew it was a plot point until today and I’m a thorough reader
minor ore
he’s a zeppeli 😳😳
Rai is probably a Zeppeli descendant tho
hard meteor
eh
uneven tendon
Zeppelis weren't the only ones who knew Spin
hard meteor
^
minor ore
True, but the fact that the spin was a technique mostly in Naples, with the Zeppeli’s fleeing to a different country
As you said, Araki doesn’t leave major things unsolved
And I think where the Zeppeli’s fled to is a more important question than Tooru’s surname
uneven tendon
Debatable
vocal gust
As you said, Araki doesn’t leave major things unsolved
And I think where the Zep...
While I am a fan of Gyro and the others I don't think they have all that much significance, and certainly not more so than Tooru's origins. Maybe the symbol on the estate was from the Zeppellis who knows
smoky anchor
Flashback man is a Zeppeli
minor ore
While I am a fan of Gyro and the others I don't think they have all that much si...
We were shown how Tooru was born and how he grew. A better question is how - even if - he founded the rock organisation
uneven tendon
He did
minor ore
I don’t think a guy simply just straight up says “you know what, today I’m going to create a smuggling organisation”
It’s possible that someone else helped educate him and convinced him to form the whole thing
uneven tendon
vocal gust
I don’t think a guy simply just straight up says “you know what, today I’m going...
We don't know a lot about it. I mean how do you go from killing and eating hornets to speech and understanding of the world around you
uneven tendon
This page also explains how the rock humans learn
tame cave
BRO SPOILERS
uneven tendon
hard meteor
this is a spoiler chat lol
tame cave
oh xd
hard meteor
dont come in here if you havent read the part
tame cave
sorry
minor ore
Ok
How would Tooru get the idea for the fruit trade?
uneven tendon
Ok
How would Tooru get the idea for the fruit trade?
The rock humans deeply value ''blessings from the Earth''
tame cave
oh
vocal gust
im on chapter 70
Keep going you're getting there
summer nova
you're allowed to visit the chat ofc but chances are that u will get spoiled
uneven tendon
And the Locacaca has similar properties to saints
Specifically their ability to equivalent exchange
summer nova
minor ore
The rock humans deeply value ''blessings from the Earth''
Ok but who taught him about that value?
minor ore
I don’t teach myself about Jesus
crisp vigil
are you not a rock human
minor ore
Tooru seems to be quite younger for a Rock Human
summer nova
I don’t teach myself about Jesus
i dont think it was meant that literal
uneven tendon
There were many saints throughout history
summer nova
a blessing doesn't have to be christian
uneven tendon
Tooru seems to be quite younger for a Rock Human
They have a 240 years lifespan
summer nova
it's more of a metaphysical concept that anyone can believe in regardless of religion
uneven tendon
Yotsuyu for instance was 28 but Wu was 70
minor ore
I can understand that now that “things from the same place we are, are therefore sacred”
minor ore
But the specifics about how the locacaca existed and how he found that out
summer nova
that's probably it
and also the fact that those 'blessings' have miraculous properties
minor ore
Because remember, it only grew in Papua New Guinnea
smoky anchor
Ngl before i started reading i thought rock humans would have been a boring concept
But fuck me i was wrong
minor ore
So someone from Japan would likely not know about it, unless he was informed by someone else
uneven tendon
They can teach themselves
summer nova
japan occupied papua guinea for a while right
minor ore
japan occupied papua guinea for a while right
As an Australian, I can say only barely
uneven tendon
Ngl before i started reading i thought rock humans would have been a boring conc...
Rock humans are gigachads
crisp vigil
guys
minor ore
They wouldn’t have time to find out about it because they were constantly pushed back by the locals and the Australian army
uneven tendon
Rock humans?
minor ore
Japanese
summer nova
crisp vigil
when you break rocks they turn into smaller rocks
tooru is a rock
tooru broke into smaller rocks
wind occurs
tooru is alive all over morioh 😳
im so smart dw :))
uneven tendon
I wonder what is the connection between the rock disease, rock humans, and the Locacaca
smoky anchor
No connection 
summer nova
rock disease was due to something a higashikata ancestor did but we dont know what
araki forgot!!111
minor ore
So either Tooru or other rock humans covered it up to monopolise on it, or that they just covered it up because reports just stopped
uneven tendon
rock disease was due to something a higashikata ancestor did but we dont know wh...
We'll probably find out soon
crisp vigil
if the eldest son gets it, then how did rina get the rock disease?
summer nova
So either Tooru or other rock humans covered it up to monopolise on it, or that ...
the first is what i assumed
minor ore
I think a more fitting question
vocal gust
I wonder what is the connection between the rock disease, rock humans, and the L...
probably the same as regular humans vs rock humans. There are 2 dif kinds of plants and 2 dif kinds of humans I suppose. The curse is Johnny improperly using equivalent exchange to save his girl
uneven tendon
Daughters can also get it but at a later age, though Rina was a 2nd child
hard meteor
the rock disease effects women too but its usually at a later date
uneven tendon
Her older brother was Johei, AKA Norisuke 2
minor ore
Is what happens when a male rock human and female human get together?
Because if it’s the other way the female has a rock baby
summer nova
woman dies
crisp vigil
woman dies
ideal
minor ore
Maybe that could be tied to the curse?
summer nova
bruh
crisp vigil
did norisuke I ever report having it?
minor ore
Could be seen as an unnatural sin and therefore the woman is punished for it
hard meteor
did norisuke I ever report having it?
tsurugi implied it existed around norisuke 1s time
minor ore
Or slightly before it
summer nova
i looked the chapter up and it said that there's no example of a rock man inseminating a carbon woman
summer nova
vocal gust
Hmmm how do we know its possible Araki what r u trying 2 say
uneven tendon
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🤝 
minor ore
I pointed that out in the literal next post -_-
There has to be some reasoning as to why it’s the case though
vocal gust
There has to be some reasoning as to why it’s the case though
Idk it just seems like a weird addition probably wont go anywhere unless it comes up that some1 we know has a rock mom
uneven tendon
Maybe Yasuho's dad is a rock human
minor ore
It implies that rock males can't copulate with female humans
But from a genetic standpoint, there is generally a reason why it only works one way
uneven tendon
vocal gust
uneven tendon
Or maybe Yoshiteru was a rock human, and this is why Yoshikage and Kei were so cold
hard meteor
need some info on yoshiteru
uneven tendon
Reminds me of when people thought that Caato was a rock human and the main villain
hard meteor
its been bugging me for months
minor ore
A rock human’s coldness is likely due to how they were nurtured rather than their nature
uneven tendon
its been bugging me for months
You know what also bugs me for months? The lack of WoU wrist blades
hard meteor
Reminds me of when people thought that Caato was a rock human and the main villa...
lol remember the guy who was convinced tooru was her son
dire furnace
Tooru Higashikata 😱😱
minor ore
Even if I preferred Kaato as a main villain, I agree that that was a dumb idea from someone lol
I just want flashback man
uneven tendon
Same
hard meteor
same
smoky anchor
Flashback man ummm Kira's dad
minor ore
I think
smoky anchor
Joshu could just steal someones arm
crisp vigil
joshu takes caato's if she dies
smoky anchor
Or can he reattach shit idr
uneven tendon
She died
minor ore
What’s going to happen is that the evolution in Paper Moon King is that it tricks people into believing illusions are reality or something
At a wide scale
summer nova
i doubt that joshu can get his arm back
smoky anchor
Its gonna make everyone think they are snails
minor ore
The problem is that what would the arc’s conflict be?
summer nova
would be cool if he gets a prosthetic instead
uneven tendon
i doubt that joshu can get his arm back
What about the 2nd New Locacaca branch that Josefumi grafted?
summer nova
a robot arm
crisp vigil
just use nkc's arm
minor ore
We know that the spin is going to be used to cure Holly
uneven tendon
Also, imagine if Kira and Josefumi actually managed to successfully grow the fruit for Holy and healed her
smoky anchor
uneven tendon
Would the Higashikatas be killed by the rock humans or something?
minor ore
They all get crushed by boulders at shakedown road
smoky anchor
Yeah
minor ore
The 89 thing
hard meteor
Is there any confirmation about Tooru's age?
nah but we can assume he would be 40 something at youngest going by the timeline
minor ore
That was a joke by Araki
uneven tendon
The 89 thing
He started to impersonate a 79 year old man in 2001
minor ore
He started to impersonate a 79 year old man in 2001
89 when read in Japanese is the same as calamity
near cedar
Wait fr?
minor ore
It was a joke to point out that what was happening was calamities
uneven tendon
nah but we can assume he would be 40 something at youngest going by the timeline
He's most likely around Wu's age
Which is 70
brittle lodge
he's hot for 70
near cedar
DIO is hot for 120
brittle lodge
true
olive bobcat
kars is hot for 10000
minor ore
Or rather “89 years old” is calamity
brittle lodge
very true
smoky anchor
Thats cool
hard meteor
He's most likely around Wu's age
highly possible,40 something is just the youngest he could be hes likely older
minor ore
“89 years old” in Japanese is 「八十九歳」”hachi-juu kyuu sai”, but there are alternative readings for the two kanji in “89”.
The alternative readings of 「八」 in KUNyomi are “ya”, “ya-tsu”, “yat-tsu” and “yō”.
Then, the alternative readings of 「九」 in ONyomi is “ku”, whereas its KUNyomi are “kokono” and “kokono-tsu”.
Kanji 「歳」 in general is read as “sai” (ONyomi). Followed by numbers, it describes “age”. The KUNyomi are “toshi”, “tose” and “yowai” but they are not really relevant in this post.
With its twisted reading, “89 years old” can be read as “yakusai”. Then what is “yakusai”? In Japanese, it means ‘calamity’
That specific wording of Calamity was in Endless Calamity
lusty holly
Do you guys know when the new chapter is coming?
brittle lodge
next month
lusty holly
And when was the last chapter
minor ore
the 18th
lusty holly
Oh 18th
minor ore
always every month
lusty holly
Thanks
brittle lodge
pog
minor ore
oh cool
smoky anchor
Shiza
minor ore
some company
near cedar
The coloured version schedule is non-existent I'm pretty sure
crude umbra
if jojolion was one piece then jobin would probably come back walking fine in the next chapter "he missed my blood vessel josuke or some shit idk science"
hard meteor
theres no schedule they just do them whenever
manic lark
its another early chapter
the chapters keep getting faster...
||MADE IN HEAVEN||
near cedar
Also the colours for Tooru are eye hurt
lusty holly
I've always read Jojo colored last chapters were the first time I've ever read Jojo without color
Kinda weird ngl
I like the colored versions a lot more
near cedar
if jojolion was one piece then jobin would probably come back walking fine in th...
Hey now, that's totally true
minor ore
Same but you get used to it
lusty holly
Also the colours for Tooru are eye hurt
Who's tooru? Old brother?
minor ore
you can appreciate the detail and art more in the black and white
near cedar
Don't worry about it
lusty holly
Oh he's the pedo rock
kind owlBOT
@lusty holly, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !
brittle lodge
....
near cedar
Lmao
crude umbra
the colors are cool but black and white lets you imagine the crazy jojo palletes
near cedar
Yesnt, he isn't a pedo i'm fairly certain
minor ore
at least he waited till she was of age 
lusty holly
Wasn't he grooming main girl?
minor ore
no