jojolion

[lofty quail]

I think it has some interesting shit in it, but I believe it's bogged down by just meh writing overall

[sick beacon]

just doesn’t measure up

[rocky charm]

It's still good now

[viscid pike]

Part 2 is a fun time but if it ended there and there was no part 3 I would throw that shit to the bottom of my list

[sick beacon]

thats why i give it like a B or C tier

[wicked wind]

Atleast not f

[sick beacon]

good god no

[lofty quail]

yeah it's not an F

[viscid pike]

I don't like how everyone sucks except Joseph.

[sick beacon]

i didnt care for jojo part 1 but i liked it a lot more than other anime

[ruby river]

technically, jjba as a whole could end after part 3

think of it

[lofty quail]

yeah

[sick beacon]

like black bullet or dxd

[ruby river]

the main conflict is over

and the end

its so climactic

[lofty quail]

You could see the other parts after part 3 as side pieces if you really wanted to

[ruby river]

like the "ties with dio are over"

[rocky charm]

coughPart6cough

[viscid pike]

Logging off for a bit guys

[sick beacon]

the rest of the series is just exposition

[lofty quail]

aight

cya dude

[sick beacon]

see ya nyves

[ruby river]

^ except for 6 since its main story line

[sick beacon]

mmm

kinda

[lofty quail]

correct

[ruby river]

fair enough, but if you pretend that parts after 3 dont exist

[rocky charm]

Oh, well sure.

[ruby river]

the ending feels goddamn climactic

[sick beacon]

but its still kinda like exposition

[wicked wind]

Guys got a question

Fr

[lofty quail]

shoot for it

[wicked wind]

Best op?

[rocky charm]

If I pretend that Parts after Part 1 don't exist, then the Part 1 ending feels like it could end a series

[wicked wind]

Which one

[sick beacon]

great days

[lofty quail]

bloody stream

or great days

[wicked wind]

I like traitors requiem

[ruby river]

not really

[ember light]

He wasnt just a "standard person" lol he had his life ruined constantly by dio and his one escape from that, erina, got messed up by dio too. He also sometimes had trouble keeping up the gentlemanly expectation from his dad when he was young. The pain from then shaped him into who he is later. He was really really depressed at times but still his feelings for dio are something more nuanced than just hatred. If I can defend one thing about part 1 itll be that Jonathan is more than just a standard protagonist. also yeah like you said the ending wasnt standard either, in fact it not being an expected ending resulted in an incredibly well done death and one of the best endings in the series

[rocky charm]

song: Uragirimono no Requiem
visuals: Fighting Gold by a long shot

[ruby river]

part 1 ends with a cliffhanger

part 2 hints to part 3

[wicked wind]

Damn

[rocky charm]

OK then if we remove the scene where we see the Stone Masks in the cave

[ruby river]

we cant

[rocky charm]

Obviously if we're treating it as a series end we wouldn't include the cliffhanger lol

[ruby river]

that doesnt count

[lofty quail]

that's my point my maan

[wicked wind]

I agree with a hundred percent

[ruby river]

plus erina survives with a decendant

[lofty quail]

he was a standard person, got involved in a conflict, had to change because of dio, got trained by a mentor, and so on and so on

that is what is referred to as an "inciting incident"

[rocky charm]

"Someone survives" doesn't mean the series can't end there

[lofty quail]

dio comes into his life and changes him

[rocky charm]

Jotaro survives the end of Part 3, so I guess that can't be the ending

[ember light]

yeah idk what you mean by "standard person" or how any of this is bland anyway

[ruby river]

but the fact that she remains in a coffin in the middle of the ocean

[uneven tendon]

That was a joke, though I am more than interested to see how everything seemingly goes back to normal

[lofty quail]

how isn't he bland in your opinion?

[rocky charm]

There's such a thing as an "open ending"

[wicked wind]

Well part 3 couldve been an actual ending to jojo

[ruby river]

and also the fact that part 1 is incredibly short and feels rushed

[lofty quail]

not saying you should only hold my belief or anything

just curious, what do you find so unique about jonathan

[sick beacon]

compared to any other series its pretty bland yeah

[wicked wind]

His will

[ruby river]

^^^ i dont know what are you trying to prove here caroni

[sick beacon]

jonathan is just a base for the rest of the joestars

[ruby river]

cause part 1 definetly doesnt feels like the end

[sick beacon]

every single jojo character ever has a great will

thats not unique at all

[rocky charm]

I'm saying that just about any ending can be said to "feel like an ending"

[ruby river]

even without the hint on part 2

[minor ore]

I love araki

Araki never forgets

NEVER

[ruby river]

yeah it doesnt

[wicked wind]

His was the strongest

[rocky charm]

If NO parts were made after Phantom Blood and it were just a short, 44 chapter manga, then no one would be saying "Ah man this doesn't feel like an ending"

[sick beacon]

physically maybe

i guess

[hard meteor]

Arakis so based

[sick beacon]

but how does that reflect on him as a character

[uneven tendon]

Same

[ruby river]

https://youtu.be/ZFobROlmWxI

[rocky charm]

They'd be saying nothing because no one would care about the series anymore that they hope Erina lived a happy life but understand that with Dio dead on the boat there's no need to continue the story

[wicked wind]

Dam

[minor ore]

JOSHUA

[rocky charm]

There are PLENTY of series' where the villain gets beaten, maybe the hero dies, and then it just ends

[uneven tendon]

Joshua? More like: inferior Joshu

[ruby river]

https://youtu.be/Ixrje2rXLMA

[sick beacon]

just just replace all characters with joshu and be on our way

[true ore]

!w plant

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Page,_Jones,_Plant,_and_Bornnam

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Page, Jones, Plant, and Bornnam

Page (ペイジ, Peiji), Jones (ジョーンズ, Jōnzu), Plant (プラント, Puranto), and Bornnam (ボーンナム, Bōnnamu) are a group of tertiary antagonists featured in the first part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, Phantom Blood.

[golden latch]

So Jojo?

[minor ore]

truly 🙏

[rocky charm]

Radiant Historia is a perfect example of leaving an ending open but still having it feel like an ending.

[sick beacon]

see, i like these endings. like danganronpa v3

[wicked wind]

I liek how every chat has people except part 1 chat

[sick beacon]

or the giver

[ruby river]

alternate timeline: jjba ends at part 1 and araki abandons the project

[wicked wind]

Who did you say your fav jojo was?

[sick beacon]

my favorite jojo is johnny

[wicked wind]

Damn

[true ore]

I like kirafumi

[sick beacon]

why do you ask

[ruby river]

imagine how much popularity would the manga have, few japanese fourms from 2005-2006sh?

[wicked wind]

No reason just wanted to know

[minor ore]

just say josuke 8 or gappy

[wicked wind]

Johnny is cool

[sick beacon]

well i mean you can

just wont be satisfying

usually

[ember light]

I explained it mostly here "He wasnt just a "standard person" lol he had his life ruined constantly by dio and his one escape from that, erina, got messed up by dio too. He also sometimes had trouble keeping up the gentlemanly expectation from his dad when he was young. The pain from then shaped him into who he is later. He was really really depressed at times but still his feelings for dio are something more nuanced than just hatred." His duality with dio is well done and I love how dio rejected his humanity and makes others lose their humanity while the power that Jonathan uses is literally pushing life energy into others. I love how dio stated himself that without Jonathan, he might not have been able to get to the point that got to, while at the same time Jonathan is the reason dio stopped progressing. They both are the starts and ends of each other and I love it so much. In most aspects of his character theres something more than just generic gentleman which is what I see him called so much. Not saying hes best protagonist ever, but yeah hes good for the reasons I stated

[true ore]

im just joking, i find it funny when people call him kirafumi for no reason

[minor ore]

lowkey feel like they are talking about the ship

[ruby river]

the ending is too "open" tbh

so much so that it still feels like a cliffhanger

[sick beacon]

yeah i mean as a foil he’s fine but as a character in and of himself he’s just not interesting

[rocky charm]

Play Radiant Historia

[ruby river]

i wont

[true ore]

not really the drivers of the plot died

[rocky charm]

I'm disguising this as part of the argument but everyone should play Radiant Historia

[ruby river]

erina?????????????????

[rocky charm]

Ah, yes

[ruby river]

jorge????????

[sick beacon]

i have it but ive never played it

[kind owl]

@ruby river, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !

[rocky charm]

The most important character in Phantom Blood

Erina.

[true ore]

she had a child that died before her, shes not important

imo

[ruby river]

thats just being ignorant at this point

[rocky charm]

She............... got molested by Dio........ grabbed a kid........ and that's basically it.

[true ore]

yes

[rocky charm]

Erina is important for being Jonathan's wife

[true ore]

but jonathan died

so

[rocky charm]

You can end a story with someone saving someone and then disappearing forever

[sick beacon]

not really man

[ruby river]

^^^

[rocky charm]

Having someone survive is NOT clues for a sequel

[sick beacon]

it could have ended there

easily

who cares? fill it in. that’s how a lot of endings are

[rocky charm]

Jotaro survived Part 3 and so did Anne, whom he saved, therefore Part 3 could never be the ending.

OPTIMISM

Pushing a message that even if you can't save everyone, save who you can

[true ore]

Anne is the part 9 protag

[sick beacon]

like the same thing happened in part 4 with shizuka and that never went anywhere

[rocky charm]

^

[ruby river]

fair enough with shizuka, though anne is a really bad example

[true ore]

shizuka is in like 3 chapters

and i mean appearances

not plot wise

[sick beacon]

open-ended endings happen all the time, regardless of whether or not you think they’re good

[ember light]

Eh alone I still like him and I dont see why we should judge him by himself either. Humanity is one of major themes so I dont see why we shouldnt take into account how the relationships humans make with each other change them. His Dio relationship just makes him so much better. plus there are other series that have characters that get incredibly highly praised and a lot of the good in them comes from their relationships with each other. Example: guts, griffith, casca

[sick beacon]

it definitely COULD have happened

[true ore]

I dont anyone realizes

that jojo has an open ending

that we dont

even think about

[sick beacon]

part 6 has a VERY open ending

[true ore]

thank you

[rocky charm]

Being someone surrounded by the high life who lives based off of ideals that others are forcing on you even if you don't understand them but working harder to better yourself isn't an interesting character?

And?

[true ore]

We dont know what happened to emporio

[rocky charm]

Actually thank you Gold

[true ore]

he had been in stone ocean for since like the tenth chapter at least

[rocky charm]

Emporio is a random kid Irene picks up at the end of SO and that's never brought up again

[true ore]

he's in a different universe

[sick beacon]

again, that’s his circumstances, not his character. as a character himself, what can you actually say about him? he’s kind, willful, and resilient— and that’s about it

[ruby river]

part 6s ending is different in context of 5 OTHER PARTS CMON

its actually obvious it was going to be a final one

[true ore]

he is stuck with the people he was once friends with, and is both happy and sad that they died and are alive at the same time

[sick beacon]

the gentle giant sort of character has been done time and time again

and i think you’re just sort of contriving meaning that isn’t even that present

[rocky charm]

Damn I guess Joseph, Jotaro, Josuke, Giorno, Jolyne, Johnny, and Josuke are all bad characters because I can also dismiss any discussion of who they are and how they've grown by using a few adjectives to describe them.

[ruby river]

also isnt emporio a reaccuring character who is a part of the main cast

[rocky charm]

Yeah that point was a joke

[true ore]

Still emporio is a main character

he killed pucci

[sick beacon]

damn i’m not even saying jonathan’s a bad character

im just saying he’s uninteresting to me

[rocky charm]

OK, fine

I can call every character in Jojo boring because I'm able to describe them in a few words and refuse to look for meaning

[sick beacon]

because his character AND his circumstances are both utterly boring to me because its stuff ive seen time and time again

[true ore]

he is uninteresting araki didnt come out of the womb ready to tell the story of jonathan

[junior coral]

fooey

😠

[true ore]

can you send that image to me

[sick beacon]

i see the meaning i just dont care for it

[true ore]

He is in a different universe

[sick beacon]

im not just deciphering every line while im watching jojo anyways

[lofty quail]

I see where you are coming from man. It's interesting to see someone defending a character that is overlooked, and I can agree on some of the things you said. However, in my opinion, Jonathan is just not as interesting as the other characters within the series. I never called him a bad character at all, but I did not find his growth as a person (or the lack thereof) very interesting.

[sick beacon]

telling me that my opinion on a character isn’t valid because i don’t think about it the same way you do is silly

[ruby river]

lets be honest johnathan isnt exactly..... a "cool" character with a certain bright personality trait

[true ore]

we were talking about endings that seem like theres more

[ruby river]

maybe thats the reason of the lack of his appeal

[sick beacon]

right? he’s just kind of... there

to me at least

[true ore]

its because hes perfect

no one finds a perfect character

interesting

[sick beacon]

its because hes literally a textbook shonen protagonist

[lofty quail]

I have to agree on that

[sick beacon]

which for the time was fine

[lofty quail]

oh no def

[sick beacon]

but now its like

wow another one

[lofty quail]

in 1986 it was very different

[sick beacon]

and i dont get why people are so defensive about it either

[viscid pike]

Hahaha what did I come back to??

[true ore]

not much

[sick beacon]

just because i dont like him as a character doesnt mean im going to invade your mind and rip out all of your love for jonathan

[rocky charm]

Jonathan disrespect

[lofty quail]

just discussing stuff and things

[true ore]

Jonathan isnt bad

[lofty quail]

He isn't bad

[true ore]

hes just no fun to read about

not bad

[lofty quail]

def

[runic adder]

Lmao gotta love we are discussing the very first jojo character on the same day the latest chapter came out

[junior coral]

Jonathan is cool but he is very static

[rocky charm]

In the Jojolion chat

[true ore]

he said that he wouldve gave him for flaws

[junior coral]

Has almost no development

[rocky charm]

Definitely the place to discuss Phantom Blood

[runic adder]

Yep

[true ore]

Its not like his hamon changes or anything

like joseph

he is the same the whole time

[rocky charm]

Jonathan gets the power-up when Zeppeli dies

[sick beacon]

nothing about him changes after the first episode or two

[late lagoon]

Joshu almost did something this chapter, it was insane

[sick beacon]

oh well yeah i suppose he kinda does

[ruby river]

literally the most heavy content filled chapter just came out
"lets discuss part 1 in #jojolion!"

[viscid pike]

I get it. Phantom Blood didnt age well. It's still a great part, still a great JoJo but in the context of the series as a whole he's not that interesting

[sick beacon]

but even that feels stilited

[sick beacon]

thank you! thats what im saying

[true ore]

yep same here

[viscid pike]

But in 1986, he was revolutionary as a shonen protagonist

[sick beacon]

was great for the time im sure

[viscid pike]

Ya gotta take the good with the bad

[lofty quail]

I really really enjoy how jonathan got killed off. It took HUGE balls for araki to do that.

[kind owl]

@lofty quail, Your Hamon Rank is now level 4 !

[viscid pike]

It's like watching the original Star Wars. That aged poorly. It's still fine but if that released today people would shit all over it

[lofty quail]

I agree

[viscid pike]

Star Wars episode 7

Err

No I mean 4

[sick beacon]

imagine if guardians of the galaxy game out in 1969

[kind owl]

@sick beacon, Your Hamon Rank is now level 7 !

[true ore]

but yeah we shouldnt care so much about this

[wicked wind]

Imagine

[kind owl]

@wicked wind, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

[true ore]

part one is okay

not in comparison to parts 7 and 8 in my opion

but its a legacy

[sick beacon]

and just okay

definitely not the worst thing ive watched or read

black bullet was awful

[ruby river]

part 3-part 5 part of timeline is pretty cool

[viscid pike]

He sets the stage for the rest of the JoJo's and that means a lot to me personally because I love the series so much

[true ore]

Dio was honestly what made part one good

a bad person

[runic adder]

Dio carried the part hard

[true ore]

and a good person

[sick beacon]

yeah he did a good job of being a basis for the rest

[true ore]

it was balanced

[sick beacon]

ill cede that

[true ore]

correctly

[ruby river]

seriously we get it, part 1 didnt age well

[true ore]

it's that it didnt age well

[sick beacon]

damn

[true ore]

it follows a formula that is just not very good

[viscid pike]

Now, let's talk about part 6 haters and how small brain they are

[true ore]

yes

[sick beacon]

i used to hate part 6

[true ore]

dont

[viscid pike]

Because Jolyne is the best JoJo I will fight anyone

[ruby river]

how do you hate part 6

[sick beacon]

read it again and i like it more

[true ore]

the ending is genius

[opaque quest]

Joseph is my personal favorite

[true ore]

I like hat josuke

[sick beacon]

johnny’s my favorite

[ruby river]

literally good setting, cool characters, somewhat quircky villian with deep motivation

[sick beacon]

i didn’t like it because it seemed confusing or arbitrary. the ending actually made me like it more on first read

[ruby river]

also stupid good main cast

it has everything

[sick beacon]

yeah really good main cast

[rocky charm]

People rewatch Part 3, reread Part 7, and then tell us that Part 6 has bad pacing.

[sick beacon]

part 6 definitely had good pacing but i just felt like it was all kind of arbitrary

[viscid pike]

I didn't like part 6 the first time because of Anasui but I grew to like them a little more

Still, I think he drags part 6 down

[opaque quest]

Anasui is one of my favorite parts of Stone Ocean

[true ore]

I really like jotaro

[ruby river]

my only problem was how easy the part just throws away the prison setting

[true ore]

he was the best part 6 character

[ruby river]

like sure there is qutie a build up

[true ore]

i have tiny brain opinions

[ruby river]

but still

[sick beacon]

i think that a lot of the problems i have with part 6 will be alleviated by david productions

when the anime comes out

[true ore]

i guess

[ruby river]

and late part 6 just feels

wierd?

[true ore]

maybe anasui will have a definite gender

[viscid pike]

Jailhouse Lock arc was great

[rocky charm]

LAte Part 6 is weird as hell

[opaque quest]

indeed

[rocky charm]

I love it

[sick beacon]

i dont like the setting at all but i personally just hate florida so

[true ore]

or maybe there will be an explained gender change

[elfin tangle]

Anasui's amazing

[ruby river]

like in a good way, but i cant really find a certain way to describe it as a whole

like there is no setting

[lofty quail]

I did not enjoy the prison setting personally

[ruby river]

its just chasing pucci

[junior coral]

nope

[elfin tangle]

A really funny character that would shine more in the anime as there'll be no more shit translation and his shining scenes will be a lot more clear

[rocky charm]

That's a weird way to describe "the characters move"

[junior coral]

no need for an explanation if the gender change is omitted

nope

[true ore]

yeah i hoped there would be but i doubt there would be one

[sick beacon]

i cant wait for the explained weight change from early funny valentine to late funny valentine

[rocky charm]

Parts 1, 2, 3, 5, and 7 also have the characters moving around and thus having no fixed setting

[junior coral]

The only given reason is that Araki wanted to draw an androgynous character

[viscid pike]

Keep Anasui gender ambiguous

[junior coral]

anything about editors or transgender/gay/whatever is a fan theory

[ruby river]

from point A to B? Fair enough but the overall surroundings and locations feel vague

just florida

[true ore]

part 6 wasnt doing good with 12 year olds so the editors didnt want to ruin sales more by having a lesbian in a story that targeted 12 year old heterosexual boys

[ruby river]

THOUGH NGL

[rocky charm]

NOPE

[sick beacon]

uh no it was because the writers didnt want a gay relationship in 2001

[junior coral]

that is outright incorrect

[true ore]

U sure

[junior coral]

nope

lol

[rocky charm]

That is a made-up lie that people spread as fact

[junior coral]

that is just not true

[true ore]

oh so what was it

[rocky charm]

If you can find ONE source you can keep saying it

[sick beacon]

“nope lol youre wrong”

[junior coral]

The only reason that has ever been given is that Araki wanted to draw an androgynous character

[rocky charm]

But without sources, it is the only thing we have a source for: Araki wanted to draw Annasui androgynous

[junior coral]

There is no such quote of Araki saying anything about the editors or changing it

Because looking like a woman isn't androgynous

[lofty quail]

nooooooo

they deleted it 😦

[true ore]

K

[viscid pike]

Part 6 wasn't doing well as a shonen so they flipped the gender

[true ore]

nah

[junior coral]

no!

[ruby river]

KENNEDY SPACE CENTER IS A REALLY COOL FINAL BATTLE LOCATION

[junior coral]

that is not it!

[sick beacon]

mmm wiki says otherwise

[junior coral]

I legit explained it twice just now

[viscid pike]

Right???

[ruby river]

like i love it

[sick beacon]

i dont see anywhere saying what you do

[rocky charm]

give a source

[viscid pike]

!w Stone Ocean

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Stone_Ocean

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

*Stone Ocean*

Stone Ocean (ストーンオーシャン, Sutōn Ōshan) is the sixth part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, serialized in Weekly Shonen Jump from January 2000 to April 2003. Originally titled JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6 Jolyne Cujoh: Stone Ocean (ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 第6部 空条徐倫 ―『石作りの海(ストーンオーシャン)』, JoJo no Kimyō na Bōken Dai Roku Bu Kūjō Jorīn -"Sutōn Ōshan"-), the arc spans 158 chapters and is preceded by Vento Aureo.

[junior coral]

Who cares

[cunning vapor]

Anasui is boy

[junior coral]

that is the only reason Araki gave

[rocky charm]

We literally just said that there is no source on that, it's a bullshit fan theory, and Araki said otherwise

[ruby river]

in general all final parts nail the climaxes

[junior coral]

Nothing about the editors is ever said

that is a rumor

made up by the fandom

[cunning vapor]

Anasui is boy bruh no more

[true ore]

So can someone explain what happened in full

i just want to know

without interuptions

[rocky charm]

Like "DIO was supposed to have all of the Stands", or "Josuke was gonna go back in time and save himself"

[junior coral]

"At Lucca Comics and Games 2019, Araki revealed that the reason behind Anasui's sex seemingly changing after his first appearance was that he wanted to portray a character with an androgynous image that went beyond the standard definition of genders."

This content comes from JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia (https://jojowiki.com), and must be attributed to its authors, as specified in the license.
JoJo's Bizarre Wiki (the FANDOM wiki) is prohibited from using it, for repeatedly copying without giving attribution.

That's it

[true ore]

the later is possible

[junior coral]

that is literally it

[rocky charm]

People spread it as if it was a fact that Araki always wanted to do it

[true ore]

i dont think it was always the plan

[rocky charm]

Araki himself said the person was unimportant

[true ore]

and it was maybe dropped

yeah

[viscid pike]

I have no sources I lied my b

[true ore]

i just think it existed at one point

[sick beacon]

this is a dumb argument

[junior coral]

it's not an argument lol

[elfin tangle]

Can't wait for Anasui to be fully male so people can shut the fuck up about it already.

[junior coral]

yep lmfao

[viscid pike]

Nooooooo

[junior coral]

people will still say they changed it though

"they"

[viscid pike]

Gender doesn't matter anyway

[junior coral]

Big Shuiesha changing genders and such

No

[proven eagle]

can someone link chapter

[sick beacon]

yeah hold on

[true ore]

https://hiwamatanoboru.com/2021/04/18/jojolion-106/

[lofty quail]

why does it matter

[proven eagle]

Thank uuu

[junior coral]

It matters because people keep spreading misinformation

Just correcting them

[sick beacon]

yeah but who cares either way it makes literally zero difference

[junior coral]

It makes a difference that people are spreading misinformation

I'm just correcting you

because I can

[sick beacon]

if it actually mattered

[junior coral]

Don't believe araki then

what the fuck do you want from me

[lofty quail]

nah just about issue regarding anasui's gender

[sick beacon]

no i believe you i just dont care

[lofty quail]

it doesn't really matter if it's a he or a she

[junior coral]

So then what is the point of saying that

[viscid pike]

Give Anasui both the femme and masc look and have a trans identifying person be their VA

[lofty quail]

In my opinion

[ruby river]

which is also dumb and unninteresting at this point

[sick beacon]

whats the point in going around correcting everyone you deranged redditor

[viscid pike]

Make everyone happy and mad at the same time

[junior coral]

If I went around saying that the moon is made of cheese you'd be like, no it isn't

Same dish

[lofty quail]

the moon IS made out of cheese

[sick beacon]

moon denier

[junior coral]

bad example I knew that

[lofty quail]

why do you think it's yellow sometimes you silly face

[junior coral]

true!

[viscid pike]

It's Schrödinger's moon

It's cheese or moon rock depending on when it's observed okay

[junior coral]

https://twitter.com/jojo_wiki/status/1195888073273303041?s=20

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia (@jojo_wiki)

Hirohiko Araki @ Lucca Comics And Games 2019

"What was the reason you initially drew Anasui as a woman in Stone Ocean?" https://t.co/KIedfSbi4J

Retweets

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4441

Twitter · Nov 17, 2019, 2:15 AM

anyway here's this

just in case some of you didn't believe me lmfao

[viscid pike]

I like the comment right below it

https://twitter.com/saikonihai/status/1196178700833828864?s=19

highdio (@saikonihai)

@jojo_wiki tbh it sounds a lot like Araki's describing his final version of Anasui - a male character wearing female-coded clothing (thigh high boots, mini-dress, fishnets). Any chance here his translator relayed the question wrong?

Twitter · Nov 17, 2019, 9:30 PM

[sick beacon]

oh okay i just realized why people are so crazy about this

[viscid pike]

A male character that doesn't fit the masculine sterotyoes

[sick beacon]

cause trans rights and all that

[junior coral]

??

watch the interview D

I gave a twitter link

[rocky charm]

If someone says that the editors got mad at Araki for adding another woman to the plot and made him change it to a man, then people are going to be upset at the others.
Innocent people are getting slandered because of a fan theory

If you "can't see the harm in that", then I don't know what to tell you

[viscid pike]

It's neat to have trans people represented as a main character

[junior coral]

But he isn't

[ruby river]

why does it matter

[junior coral]

lol

he isn't trans though

[ruby river]

he just changed his mind

thats it

moving on

[rocky charm]

The interview was 2019, SO was a while back

[junior coral]

exactly

[junior coral]

^^^

[sick beacon]

oh no i do too i was just saying i get why some people get kinda worked up about it now

[junior coral]

He isn't transgender

[sick beacon]

no i know he isnt

but it could be mistaken for that

[junior coral]

He said he wanted to write an androgynous character, therefore redrew him that way

[sick beacon]

with the androgynous character thing

[junior coral]

Oh yeah a lot of people perpetuate that

the one he redrew

the one that's not clearly a woman

[rocky charm]

The one with his tiddies out

[junior coral]

lol

don't ask us why

he said it

lol

[rocky charm]

Araki wrote and drew every character in Part 5 and then said "hm what would happen if I made an androgynous character"

[viscid pike]

Abbachio was pretty dang androgynous

[kind owl]

@viscid pike, Your Hamon Rank is now level 7 !

[viscid pike]

Lmao

[junior coral]

okay

I'm just telling you what Araki said

i don't know his reasoning behind how he drew it

No Andy

[uneven tendon]

He said that was planned though

[junior coral]

All I'm saying is whatever the reason, it has nothing to do with the editors or Diver Down, or him being trans

as far as we know

Lots of people like to say "oh he just used Diver Down to get into the women's prison"

like, no

??

[lofty quail]

I love that

[viscid pike]

My headcanon is Anasui met Jolyne presenting female and used diver down to change their appearance to be more masculine to try to get with her

[rocky charm]

He

did

not

[junior coral]

Andy you're late to the party

[viscid pike]

It's not true

It's not official canon

[junior coral]

https://twitter.com/jojo_wiki/status/1195888073273303041?s=20

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia (@jojo_wiki)

Hirohiko Araki @ Lucca Comics And Games 2019

"What was the reason you initially drew Anasui as a woman in Stone Ocean?" https://t.co/KIedfSbi4J

Retweets

1134

Likes

4441

Twitter · Nov 17, 2019, 2:15 AM

[viscid pike]

I like to think that lol

[junior coral]

this is the only reason why

alright

[uneven tendon]

Green Giorno, you do realize that saying Anasui being a female isn't a retcon, right?

[junior coral]

hm?

[junior coral]

FF didn't meat Anasui before that scene

[sick beacon]

i think it’s silly to care so much whether someone thinks if his gender was changed or not

[junior coral]

Listen Illious

Idk if you know me

But I correct people about everything

[uneven tendon]

Araki just wanted to have a character who looked like both genders, it wasn't a retcon if he always planned it that way

[summer nova]

araki was just doing a little trolling

[junior coral]

It matters to me when people perpetuate weird headcanons and try to convince others "this is what araki said!!!"

Andy dude

we not talking about pronouns

[sick beacon]

fair enough

[junior coral]

it is legit a retcon

[uneven tendon]

I don't think stuff like ''Anasui used Diver Down'' should be disregarded as dumb theories

[junior coral]

He has boobs, then he doesn't

[viscid pike]

This is important

[uneven tendon]

Because part of it's powers is restructuring

[junior coral]

it's a dumb theory because it is not true

I gave a link to the reason araki gave

[uneven tendon]

I know that reason

[junior coral]

So you don't believe araki now? You're saying he had an ulterior motive?

he lied in the interview?

what?

[uneven tendon]

But it's still not a dumb theory like you like to say it is when it's the closest thing to an in universe explanation

I do believe him though

[junior coral]

it's not an in universe explanation if it's never explained

lol

[uneven tendon]

I just point out that it wasn't a retcon

[sick beacon]

araki is lying to sell more manga 😈

[uneven tendon]

But that was addressed in the panel I just sent

[junior coral]

I just told you that FF had never met Anasui prior to that

So she didn't see him when he "was a woman"

[summer nova]

who are anasui and ff

im only reading jojolion

[sick beacon]

nobody’s ever thought of that before

[sick beacon]

really??

why?

[viscid pike]

It wasn't concrete though. He just said at the time he wanted to create an androgynous character and thougbt it'd be alright in a manga aimed at boys

[rocky charm]

He's joking

[viscid pike]

Thats it

[sick beacon]

oh

[lofty quail]

oh you are just joking

[sick beacon]

my bad

[summer nova]

its the best part

[viscid pike]

FF is plankton

[lofty quail]

I was so confused at first

[sick beacon]

truuue

[junior coral]

Also I'd like to point out that the quote is "is he a man" not "I thought he was a woman"

[summer nova]

no

well

they do

but sexless

i think

[viscid pike]

FF self-identified as a she

[rocky charm]

That has nothing to do with androgyny.
FF was just so entranced by his beautiful body that she thought he was some sort of an Adonis or God

[summer nova]

FF is sentient so she can identify as female

[viscid pike]

That's all that really matters

[sick beacon]

they are hermaphrodites if im not mistaken

[rocky charm]

Alternatively, sentient plankton has trouble telling gender

[junior coral]

I'm aware

[viscid pike]

That's sex not gender

[sick beacon]

lets not get political

[junior coral]

FF has a gooch because she's in Atroe's body, but being a plankton, she technically is sexless

[summer nova]

so funny

#memes-and-images

[junior coral]

we're not gonna get into that

[rocky charm]

That could just be force of habit (or maybe the translation. idk I haven't seen the Japanese). Lots of people are more comfortable saying "he" or "she" instead of "they". So even if FF was knowledgeable to understand the concept of identifying as "they" and then chose to identify as "they", Jolyne "You throw like a queer" Cujoh would probably still call FF "she"

[lofty quail]

I wonder what that video is

[junior coral]

All you need to know is that she is made out of plankton

[viscid pike]

We can take that convo elsewhere if you're interested

[junior coral]

plankton don't have private parts

Discussion of past parts are allowed here

If you want to steer the convo to jojolion do it

Yeah

lol

The rules are that future parts can't be discussed

[sick beacon]

we talked about part 1 for like 45 minutes up there

[junior coral]

pretty sure it doesn't say anything about past parts

[sick beacon]

before that we talked about JJL 106

[runic adder]

Ah dang can’t talk about part 9 here too bad

[sick beacon]

retcon means to change retroactively

[runic adder]

Something that contradicts an element of the story previously by changing it

[sick beacon]

in a work of fiction

[junior coral]

Basically to rewrite past events.

[burnt quiver]

where will we find 106 now that mangadex is deceased

[rocky charm]

A retcon is when an author retroactively removes or changes something from prior canon

[sick beacon]

want a link?

[junior coral]

revise (an aspect of a fictional work) retrospectively, typically by introducing a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events.

[runic adder]

So for example rais backstory was retconned, his backstory changes in chapter 99/100 iirc

[burnt quiver]

eng TL i mean

[junior coral]

how

[rocky charm]

That's not what retroactively means. Unless someone travelled back in time to fuck up your marriage.

[sick beacon]

https://jojolionmanga.com/manga/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-8-jojolion-chapter-106/

[lime gulch]

How

[summer nova]

https://imgur.com/a/uCk2K3g

seems like i was too slow

[sick beacon]

i win

[runic adder]

It wasn’t?

[rocky charm]

hiwamatanoboru.com

[junior coral]

what was his backstory before chapter 99

[runic adder]

Could have sworn he said his orchard burned done originally

[junior coral]

if any

don't think so

[runic adder]

In his first arc he talks about his past

[sick beacon]

mmm no it was a storm wasnt it?

or something?

[summer nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/439153916597501976/826095627943018587/image0.gif

[rocky charm]

The same thing that happens to everyone else

[runic adder]

Either way, it’s different than asbestos insects destroying it

[sick beacon]

is that what happened?

i speedread through that portion truth be told

[runic adder]

Same kinda

[sick beacon]

well if i talk about jojo anymore im going to lose my mind

have fun guys

[lofty quail]

cya NERD

:)

[sick beacon]

[viscid pike]

Buh bye

[summer nova]

fellas, past parts are allowed but this is still a jojolion discussion channel

[junior coral]

He calls it a typhoon originally but he realizes after meeting WoU that this was because of calamity

[summer nova]

coolcool

[viscid pike]

BOY HE THICCCC

[summer nova]

truee

[runic adder]

And he said that he rejected his parents and left the orchard. Except in wou arc apparently his parents died

[burnt quiver]

huh

neat chapter

[viscid pike]

DAMN THATS A THICC ASZSZ BOI

THICC boy ded yall

[rocky charm]

Rai is too thicc to die

[burnt quiver]

i guess

[runic adder]

And the reason the orchard failed was cuz the secrets of the cultivation were leaked

[junior coral]

Araki forgot

[runic adder]

So yea, unless there’s some weird stuff going on it’s a retcon

[runic adder]

[burnt quiver]

what was retconned

[rocky charm]

Wonder of Retcon

[viscid pike]

What about that baby

[runic adder]

His parents dying, him rejecting the orchard, the orchards secrets being leaked, insects overrunning the orchard

[burnt quiver]

also is this chapter good or not can someone tell me because i cant form my own opinion

[runic adder]

Very good

[junior coral]

It’s good

[rocky charm]

it is

[viscid pike]

Fuck me Joshu's gonna be the new Emporio

[rocky charm]

GUys

What i

[burnt quiver]

is joshu dead

[rocky charm]

if joshiu ided

deid

died

[lofty quail]

thank god

[runic adder]

Joshu is probably not dead given the flashforward

But then again..flashforward

Is kinda wack

[proven eagle]

So is there a release for ch 107?

date

[rocky charm]

The one where he has his right arm and the house is intact?

[runic adder]

But the flashforward had joshu using his stand, so it makes sense he WOULDNT be an illusion

[rocky charm]

May 18

[viscid pike]

If Joshu's the new Emporio, I stg

[rocky charm]

That's how monthly manga works

[viscid pike]

It's a monthly release

[runic adder]

Yes I know it’s hard to predict based on flashforward

The only consistency in the flashforward is that norisuke was attacked

Read chapter 83

It’s a way to bait the readers

[rocky charm]

The scene where it said "13 minutes to the Harvest" and we saw the Higashikatas goofing around and Joshu molested his sister and Norisuke was in a body bag

[runic adder]

I gotta say, if Araki doesn’t retcon the flashforward, it might be some of the best trolling of readers I’ve ever seen

[runic adder]

He just licked her ear

Well, if it showed exactly what was happening at that new moon yea

[rugged pilot]

C moon type beat

[kind owl]

@rugged pilot, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

[rocky charm]

Still molestation

[viscid pike]

I don't

[rugged pilot]

Flash forward then?

[lofty quail]

The jojolion channel is the most chaotic channel in the server

[rugged pilot]

Flash forward happens a lot in heist movies where they talk about the plan as it happens

[rocky charm]

That's the power of Calamity

[viscid pike]

Much like the part

[lofty quail]

Looked through everything

lmao yeah

[rugged pilot]

Oof spoilers

I’m at the chairlift chapter

[runic adder]

Chairlift>transmission tower

[hard meteor]

Bruh

[rugged pilot]

Lmao mans has a treadmill with the most motivation. If u stop you fall off

[hard meteor]

tfw trolling with an ear lick makes you a molester smh

[viscid pike]

Rei pushing Yasuho off the chairlift pissed me tf off

[rugged pilot]

Bruno molested giorno then

[woeful sluice]

talk about new chapter here?

[viscid pike]

YES PLEASE

[finite wadi]

bro

in order to understand jojolion you have to be high

istg

[hard meteor]

Apparently so lol

[rocky charm]

He wanted Josuke all to himself

[woeful sluice]

YASUHO LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rocky charm]

There's only room for one thicc ass in Josuke's life

[finite wadi]

true

he no match for tw tho

[rocky charm]

Honestly you gotta respect him taking the incentive

[viscid pike]

That's why they call his stand Doggystyle 😏

[finite wadi]

I was just about to say that

[runic adder]

Ikr

[finite wadi]

judging by his stand name he likes it

"stand names reflect on the users or the ability"

wait

IS TAHT DOGGY STYLE HIDDEN ABILITY

TO

##############

[viscid pike]

I think I know where you're going with this

[runic adder]

Bruh you’re telling me josuke is soft and wet

[viscid pike]

There it is

[finite wadi]

:)

[runic adder]

And that Kira is a queen?

[finite wadi]

yes

but also the lyrics

[runic adder]

Yea ik what you mean

[finite wadi]

the stand name and the lyrics

[runic adder]

Yea

[finite wadi]

we just do a little trollin

[rocky charm]

Gyro's Stand is named Ball Breaker 😳

[viscid pike]

Explain Joshu's Nut King Call

[finite wadi]

horny 24/7

[viscid pike]

IN APPROPRIATE

[rocky charm]

Joshu is the nut king

[finite wadi]

he tried to do his mom

[rocky charm]

He even has nuts on his undies

[viscid pike]

No

[finite wadi]

mhm

one is dead

how they fight

but

ig wou

wou is a stand you dont fight

[hard meteor]

Deadman Kira

[finite wadi]

its a stand you run the fuck away from

[hard meteor]

Can’t kill ghosts

[finite wadi]

ghost cant kill you

they go like professor quirell

[viscid pike]

Why did Tooru/Head Doctor/WoU even go after Rai anyway?

[finite wadi]

when harry touched him

[finite wadi]

josuke accomplice

[viscid pike]

What was the motive?

Oh sorry I meant in the past

[finite wadi]

oh

looking into the higashikata family

maybe even

j o b i n

wink wink

[rocky charm]

I think Rai's father just happened to "pursue" the Head Doctor and ended up sying

[winter spade]

It was part of the flow ultimately bringing the rokakaka towards Tooru

Rai even acknowledges that the calamity works longer term to help Tooru succeed

[finite wadi]

I think theres some connection with jobin and tooru

jobin was "dead" before he even got there

(not confirmed)

I dont wanna say anything and then be totally wrong yn

hmm

but if kira touches tooru

he crumbles

yeah but

how he gonna fight

ghost gun

ig

tooru would probably catch on that he's avoiding touching him and then pursue him

he big grain

[minor solstice]

did new chapter drop

chapter 106?

epic

[copper jay]

since mangadex is down, what are some other good places to read the new chapter

[minor solstice]

https://jojolionmanga.com/manga/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-8-jojolion-chapter-106/

[elfin rivet]

can we talk about anytime the fanbase talks about a character being missing something bad happens lol

[viral plume]

Quick thing to say about the recent chapter: I think its really fucking bad that ||Gappy's injuries magically dissapear when he gets Obli off of him. He is seen to be so insanely injured that he is bleeding to a disgusting degree, obli itself causes blood and its spread throughout his entire body and as soon as he gets in the water, obli just goes off? and the injuries are nowhere. Really fucking bad imo||

[rocky charm]

Y'know, Karera's been missing for a while

[elfin rivet]

karera gonna get bodied if she comes bavk lol

[viral plume]

I miss karera

[ruby river]

good ol early jjl

[lofty quail]

this is where the addiction to the joshu torture porn starting taking effect

[primal lintel]

Who’s the scribbled out one

[sudden nymph]

For some reason the person who made it put josuke there so I crossed it out

[primal lintel]

Oh aight

[rocky charm]

Rai and Josuke both got hit by several Calamities

[sudden nymph]

Not in the span of 5 minutes

[ruby river]

also this means that there are no new rokas left right

[sudden nymph]

Yeah I think

[rocky charm]

||Second branch maybe?||

[ruby river]

less likely

[sudden nymph]

Unless there is that they are all gone

[ruby river]

plus the higashikata garden was on fire

doubt the tree survived

[sudden nymph]

Maybe there are more than two on the branch

It just hasn’t even started growing yet

[ruby river]

maybe

though without the mcguffin of the part

[winter spade]

At the very least the cactus grafted rokakaka branch is out of usable fruits now

[ruby river]

the conflict dies

[runic adder]

Yea the whole handling of obladi was kinda lame

[sudden nymph]

I wish Araki gave nut king call and paisley park a barrage sound for when they did there barrage

[ruby river]

im pretty sure that exchanging with someone to heal WAS a smart move, but not with yasuho

[hard meteor]

Well there is another way to heal the curse away

[runic adder]

Don’t mention rais curse line

[viral plume]

There are 4 branches, right?

[runic adder]

Don’t you dare mention it

[hard meteor]

Rais curse line

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[runic adder]

[ruby river]

cause if tooru ran away then he would just be hit with the bubble

[sudden nymph]

Rai’s curse line

[viral plume]

But only two have fruit is the thing

[winter spade]

||There’s 2||

[runic adder]

No they mean when josefumi grafted them

[viral plume]

Oh

[runic adder]

The theory is that josefumi grafted two branches, and this can be visible seen during the vitamin c arc

[viral plume]

But they mentioned tooru...

[winter spade]

Josefumi only removed 2 branches when he pulled off the branch heist on aisho

[runic adder]

So because rai never actually saw the second branch, someone else stole it

Before it got burned

[winter spade]

Entirely possible

[runic adder]

It is possible

[upper knoll]

https://twitter.com/RadiantAeonstar/status/1383875026705731594

Aeonstar💫 (@RadiantAeonstar)

https://t.co/Lfn3NkG6nX

Likes

425

Twitter · Apr 18, 2021, 8:08 PM

[ruby river]

maybe

[winter spade]

Kaato perhaps?

[sudden nymph]

Please

Let that happen

[runic adder]

I think it kind of undermines the entire hunt for the locacaca?

[ruby river]

its highlikely kaato

[winter spade]

Well it depends how it’s handled

[ruby river]

shes already around during the branch arc

[sudden nymph]

I’m pretty sure it’s Caato not Kaato but it doesn’t matter

[runic adder]

Tsurugi is too precious

[runic adder]

True

[upper knoll]

Unless...?

[runic adder]

It is Caato

[ruby river]

im comfortable with kaato

[runic adder]

Yea doesn’t entirely matter, it’s just one letter

[hard meteor]

Yeah but I prefer Kaato more

[runic adder]

And it’s pronounced the exact same

[ebon rampart]

I will kick that cringe ass nae nae baby

[runic adder]

Don’t you dare

Tsurugi doesn’t deserve that

[ruby river]

i wish toorus death was slightly more climactic

[winter spade]

Tsurugi is precious

[winter spade]

Well he’s not dead yet lol

[runic adder]

Oh ho ho he’s not dead yet

[viral plume]

I feel like its so fucking weird that ||oblis injuries just magically stop||

[ruby river]

rn Rai's death is the most impactful one

[sudden nymph]

I’m gonna send this based picture again

[runic adder]

Yea same, and that josuke just magically knows that obladi would die in water

[ruby river]

oh he isnt?

[winter spade]

Well it was just spreading off of the blood josuke already had on him?

[runic adder]

Nope

[ruby river]

well thats good

[runic adder]

Until he turns to rock he’s not dead

[winter spade]

And the blood from his attempts to get it off himself

[ruby river]

oh yeah

[runic adder]

Oh wait I didn’t consider that

[winter spade]

Idk how water removed Obladi so easily but it’s a bug so

[runic adder]

Obladi was still eating his flesh tho

[viral plume]

Like, jojo has had an issues with how injuries are inconsistent and so now again just dissapear, but like...this is the CHAPTER afterwards

Fucking...what

[runic adder]

Like the wounds would still be there

[runic adder]

Yea ikr it’s weird

[ruby river]

hot spring maybe?

[winter spade]

It wasn’t at anything but the surface level

[runic adder]

The blood could be dissipated from the water, but the wounds are there still

[viral plume]

He should be bleeding out

[ruby river]

he could simply drown it at this point

[runic adder]

And did obladi just...eat the rock eye off?

Lol

[viral plume]

Dont tell me it diiiiiiiiiiiiiid

[winter spade]

It’s not like it was carving through his hand, it just latched onto the skin on his hand

[ruby river]

lol what

[runic adder]

Nah it probably didn’t

[sudden nymph]

Probably the only thing about 8 I really dislike about part 8 so far

[hard meteor]

Meh never really cared about the rock eye

He looks better without it

[viral plume]

I can mention other things once I do a reread

[runic adder]

The think he looks cool with it but if it didn’t exist

As a retcon it’s not a huge deal

[sudden nymph]

Something similar happens to Joshu when him and Yasuho did the equivalent exchange Joshu should have gotten Yasuho’s injuries but he doesn’t get them

[viral plume]

Like, fucking what? Thats it? Hes not gonna bleed to death?

[ruby river]

IT FUCKING DID

[viral plume]

JOJO HAS ESTABLISHED THAT PEOPLE CAN BLEED TO DEATH! TWICE!!!

No, THRICE!!!

[true ore]

abbachio

kakyoin

who else

[winter spade]

Also wait why does Obladi go “gah” when it’s drowned lol

[viral plume]

Kakyoin and abba were because their internal organs were gone

[winter spade]

Is the bug itself making that noise?

[hard meteor]

Yes it makes sounds

[ruby river]

bro obli literally ate rock eye

[sudden nymph]

Possibly Jobin we aren’t sure yet

[runic adder]

Josuke didn’t die to bleeding, jobin alive confirmed

[viral plume]

• bloodloss

[viral plume]

I mean...

Thats a based take, ya know

[runic adder]

Lmao

Jobins leg is still fucked up tho

[true ore]

their digestional tracks, in no way were they stabbed in the heart or lungs

[runic adder]

Ofc I don’t think he will die but he’s still incredibly injured

[sick gate]

It’s true, no way Jobin would die like that

[sudden nymph]

My dream has to come true so Jobin can’t die yet

[runic adder]

Give up on your dream and die

[viral plume]

Im sorry, you cannot function once those parts of your body are gone

[true ore]

damn

[ruby river]

btw is the next chapter coming in may

[viral plume]

And Abba was around the chest area

[true ore]

welp i thought jojo sense would kick in

[ruby river]

or we have another hiatus

[hard meteor]

Yes

[sudden nymph]

Wow why you gotta be so mean 😦

[hard meteor]

It comes in may

[runic adder]

No hiatus I think

[viral plume]

||OBLI WAS ON HIS FUCKING FACE!!! WHY ARE THERE NO INJURIES!!!!||

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[ruby river]

well, we'll find out if kaato is a villan or not

[runic adder]

There will be no karera return, there will be no mystery man, and there will BE NO JOBIN VS JOSHU

[viral plume]

[hard meteor]

Damage isn’t consistent in jojo

This is not new

[viral plume]

I HATE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST CASES!!!

[winter spade]

Yeah I also think the blood was simply signifying where Obladi was spreading to

[viral plume]

THIS IS IN THE SAME CHAPTER!!!!

[sudden nymph]

I highly disagree with the first two

[sick gate]

why would Kaato attack Josuke or Yasuho now though

[winter spade]

Not that the bug itself was causing much damage

[runic adder]

It’s a joke

I believe both will come back

[sudden nymph]

Oh ok

[winter spade]

Since we even see that the ones on his chin aren’t digging into his skin

[viral plume]

He collapsed on the ground after the last one, why would the bug not adhese itself to its prey to weaken it?

[runic adder]

Im a certified jojolion hopium inhaler

[ruby river]

isnt yasuho at her most vaurnable

and with tooru almost down

[bitter tundra]

Just read chapter 106 and I just wanna say

Tooru get BTFO LOL

[winter spade]

Because he’s got like 50 pounds of rock insect on him, and the bugs themselves are limiting his movement

[ruby river]

she probably wants to heal tsurugi

ooooooooor

[true ore]

actually it states his heart, i was just eyeballing the image

[ruby river]

she could be with rock humans

[upper knoll]

what

[winter spade]

Also I didn’t even notice but Kaato has her card deck on her hip

[viral plume]

Im sorry, the chapter was screaming at us that he was bleeding the fuck out

The floor was drenched in blood, obli was causing a fuckton of damage to Josuk8

[ruby river]

btw which song refference is "go beyond"

[kind owl]

@ruby river, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

[viral plume]

||And we straight up see here that parts of his face are bleeding allot||

[sick gate]

I looked for it but I couldn’t find something

probably a lyric or something else

[hard meteor]

https://youtu.be/SiDmPg9L87E

[ruby river]

are you sure its that

[hard meteor]

It’s the closest we could find

[ruby river]

sub ability

its normal now

[sick gate]

could be

[viral plume]

This is Soft & Wet.

[ruby river]

way better than evolution

[viral plume]

And this, is to go even further beyond...

[upper knoll]

Oh I didnt even think it could a song reference

[ruby river]

uh, thats obvious though?

[upper knoll]

seems not

[winter spade]

It’s always a song reference

[sick gate]

Love train’s lyrics are tied into it’s ability to an extent

[ruby river]

i mean, "to go beyond" is our only bet rn

[sick gate]

I don’t know that To Go Beyond song so idk if that holds true

[ruby river]

its written by enya

[upper knoll]

Well it's an Enya song so its plausible

[ruby river]

soooooo

yeah

[viral plume]

Sorry for harping on this so much, but it was on his fucking throat dude

[winter spade]

Idk

[viral plume]

God, this annoys me when I see it

[winter spade]

At this point I think araki just wanted to incapacitate josuke without prolonging a fight with Obladi Obladi

[crystal ginkgo]

this reminds me of the movie life

[winter spade]

Since it would be boring af and draw attention away from the fight with WoU

[ruby river]

another prince refference would give me an orgasm

[viral plume]

I guess

[crystal ginkgo]

when the alien crawled inside ryan reynolds through his mouth and ate his insides

that was terrifying

[viral plume]

I understand the intent, but by god could he have made the structure of it all better

[winter spade]

Probably

[crystal ginkgo]

i was thinking araki could do something similar

in terms of body horror

[viral plume]

Also, we gonna talk about ||how Mitsuba and the group got fucking blasted by the door||

[crystal ginkgo]

they weren't

[winter spade]

||She uses Tsurugi as a shield lol||

[hard meteor]

That was the impact from the house

[winter spade]

^