But I’m just sayin cause that’s the point of the channels i guess
#jojolion
minor ore
sly turret
i think
minor ore
Read the channel topic
minor ore
Well I’ve read all parts but I’m saying for the people who haven’t
minor ore
The point of the channels is keeping a discussion to the part so you don’t get spoiled about others
But anyways on the discussion Caato shares a similar design to Valentine in her design and her stand
That makes me almost sure that she might be the main villain if that isn’t obvious
sly turret
I thought that for a while too
fading cove
no i like jojolion channel the most
sly turret
but then I remembered that she doesn't do much
if she is the main villain, then why hasn't she done anything aside from be on the phone since she was introduced
fading cove
because you can talk about anything and you dont have the "THE BEETLE ARROW IS DIFFENET" fans
minor ore
Yea true but araki might be hiding her stand name and power for a big reveal
sly turret
I guess
if Caato is the main villain, then Araki better make her likeable bc she hasn't really done much so far to stand out
minor ore
I wouldn’t be surprised if her name is queen or featuring queen
sly turret
Until further notice, I'm still convinced the final confrontation will be between Gappy and Jobin
minor ore
Well she is very 2 sided and toxic from what we’ve seen
sly turret
Even if he isn't really a main villain
fading cove
is it going to be like diavolo?
minor ore
Also very calculative
fading cove
where we only see his face at the very end?
and its not that huge of a shocker
because its just his body
minor ore
I feel like Caato will get Joshuu, Tsurugi and Jobin on her side and it will be a big face off
fading cove
all humans have bodys
fading cove
see
sly turret
or the Doppio stuff
minor ore
Diavolo the more unlikeable Version of the already unlikeable Anasui
minor ore
Maybe Gappy is the final villain
fading cove
like we dont know any of the rules about kaato stand
minor ore
🤡
sly turret
Caato's stand is certainly sus though
fading cove
could she move the cards to like chop up your body?
sly turret
like Araki typically doesn't bring in a named character and not name their stand
fading cove
like she traps you in the cards and shuffles them
sly turret
especially one that is important to the backstory of a main character
fading cove
and your body gets cut up
minor ore
Her stand has a lot of potential but it requires a lot of preparation from what we’ve seen
fading cove
when she releases you
minor ore
Actually no that’s nowhere near it
sly turret
like those two guys in part 5
final hawk
Yes, it looks like the stand teleports stuff
minor ore
Actually she just hides objects in her cards similar to enigma
fading cove
the gay guys or the super gay guys
sly turret
Also guys why hasn't anybody talked about her cards
fading cove
we dont know the limits
sly turret
they were taken by the police
fading cove
enigma was a double edged sword
sly turret
and seen by the police
kind owlBOT
@fading cove, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !
minor ore
It might be a bound stand actually being the deck and not a stand of her own
bitter tundra
You're talking abour every jojo character, @fading cove
sly turret
The cards themself can't be the stand guys
minor ore
Cause she cares about the cards actually
fading cove
most stands dont auto fuck over the user
minor ore
Well why would her bra share the same design as her cards if that isn’t her stand
sly turret
I agree its either a bound stand, or her stand is like D4C and she just uses the cards with the stand
The cards were also taken by the police when she was arrested
which wouldn't have been possible if they were the stand
bitter tundra
(Shows Highway to Hell and Cheap Trick and Superfly and Survivor)
minor ore
She reminds me of a magician similar to valentine ngl
sly turret
Wait that brings up another question
if the cards were in police custody then how did Caato get the phone from Jobin
minor ore
I think if the theory about actually her being the daughter of the head doctor
fading cove
why does trish and spice girl share the same similar design
wait
its like their connected
minor ore
And the head doctor being a super old rock human
fading cove
OOO
minor ore
Then Caato might have been in the events of sbr
That would explain a connection to valentine
fading cove
what if yasuho sends paisley park to get info on kaato and its Kaato V. Higashikata
sly turret
Head doctor could have been alive during SBR for all we know
fading cove
id be hyped
minor ore
But where the theory falls apart is when we realize that rock humans and humans can’t reproduce making the Higashikata kids basically impossible
sly turret
head doctor was actually Dario Brando all along
minor ore
So kaato has to be a human
fading cove
you think jojo follows rules
minor ore
Tell me they don’t share almost the same design
hidden smelt
the head doctor could've killed been the person who killed johnny
minor ore
King crimson is probably gonna be the evolved version of soft and wet
Being able to steal time itself
Having a different form of course
final hawk
Or maybe a new stand with a "king" on it?
kind owlBOT
@final hawk, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
minor ore
It really isn’t too far off cause Gappy already steals stuff like sound and friction
Yea it will definitely have king in the name
Y’all see that paisley park has a a decent grade in development potential too
Yasuho is basically the koichi of this universe her stand might evolve
hidden smelt
how do you think it would evolve?
minor ore
Maybe in a dire situation where Gappy is on the verge of death it might develop and offensive ability
fading cove
it?
fading cove
maybe because he sensed he was about to lose his job
minor ore
Maybe or he is working for the head doctor and is gonna try and get Yasuho on his side
minor ore
Yasuho is literally the best girl in jojolion
hidden smelt
i dont think tooru is a villain
minor ore
Her stand hacker powers
Yes please would take it any day
Tooru might be an alternative yukako
fading cove
but
minor ore
Which would make sense since yasuho is an alternative koichi
minor ore
What does Lucy have to do with jojolion lol
fading cove
who is best girl
hidden smelt
Lucy
fading cove
wrong
hidden smelt
Lucy was useful
kind owlBOT
@hidden smelt, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
hidden smelt
She's useful for a person with no stand
fading cove
i think he'll almost die in the final battle
minor ore
Maybe save yasuho
fading cove
or be used to explain kaato ability
minor ore
Yea probably
I feel like he has no malicious intent but he is a little suspicious
Feels like a Yukako to me tho
fading cove
its weird he lives like superfly and has weak af stone free as a stand
coral cliff
I think that Soft and Wet will in fact evolve into king crimson, HOWEVER I think its abilities will be different from Part 5 king crimson
fading cove
be god tier
minor ore
Yea it will definitely have another design and power
fading cove
i really want kaato's stand to be "the march of the black queen"
its such an underrated song
minor ore
Actually soft and wet is god tear already being able to steal practically anything object or not
coral cliff
Maybe it will retain its ability to produce bubbles, and the bubbles will be able to plunder time or something
fading cove
could soft and wet remove the blood from your body?
minor ore
But giving it the ability to steal time
coral cliff
Just imagine a stand as intimidating as King Crimson producing bubbles
fading cove
no just remove the physical rule
coral cliff
It would be hilarious
minor ore
well it doesn’t have a Physical rule technically
How is it able to steal sound
Sound is not psychical
That’s what gives it potential to be hella op
fading cove
soft and wet is just held back by araki
minor ore
It is
fading cove
he could steal the body from your body
minor ore
He probably could get a bubble in your your body and steal the blood or air basically insta killling you
Like imagine getting a bubble in your lungs and it stealing the air
It would make your lungs into goo
minor ore
Oh yea
hidden smelt
could he steal cancer cells
fading cove
he could steal normal cells
minor ore
It does have killer queen in it too which is weird
hidden smelt
what did it take from killer queen?
fading cove
the bubbles pop or something
minor ore
Yea
hidden smelt
oh
minor ore
We learned they are not actually bubbles but very fast spinning string
Similar to doggy style as rei said it
fading cove
minor ore
I was confused about it
coral cliff
This is the ability of my "King Crimson".
I plundered the next 10 seconds from the flow of time.
fading cove
he almost used the secret joestar method
minor ore
We were building up to that fight all the damn part
coral cliff
KING CRIMSON EXPLANATION:
kind owlBOT
@coral cliff, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
coral cliff
- Epitaph lets him see up to 10 seconds into the future
minor ore
That’s basically every stand part 5 onwards
coral cliff
- Whenever he wants, King Crimson may start his ability
- During his ability, everyone is locked into what Epitaph saw
hidden smelt
i think the who shot johnny arc was more confusing than king crimson
coral cliff
- Also during his ability, he phases out of reality like a ghost, and can move with free will, outside of Epitaph's prediction
- After 10 seconds, the ability ends, and no one remembers what happened
minor ore
Tusk and the spin are 10x more confusing than king crimson
coral cliff
@hidden smelt Absolutely
fading cove
you act like his ability didnt change
minor ore
The spin is bullshit ngl
fading cove
see with tusk its so confusing you just accept it
coral cliff
How did Alt. Diego and Wekapipo mention the corpse parts if they're in different universes
The corpse parts only exist within the base universe
minor ore
Wekapipo reminds me of the head doctor ngl
coral cliff
But in the Who shot Johnny arc
hidden smelt
isnt the answer that they all shot johnny?
fading cove
no
coral cliff
Alt. Diego and Alt. Wekapipo mention the corpse parts
hidden smelt
what was it?
coral cliff
Before they shoot johnny
fading cove
no one hurts our little thicc blessing 
coral cliff
Valentine didn't talk to them
minor ore
Gyro shoots Johnny colorized 2019
Gyro is truly the main character of that part for me
He was something else
😳
hidden smelt
i think at the beginning its focused on gyro then near the middle and end its mostly johnny
minor ore
It just shows how it isn’t the jojo we knew
And it isn’t connect to the previous parts
fading cove
gyro has a personality
minor ore
That’s rare these days with guys like giorno
fading cove
johnny is just a crippled murder
hidden smelt
but gyro makes johnny a better less selfish person by the end
coral cliff
Giorno has a personality, it's just a very inward one
His personality is drinking piss
minor ore
They better each other if I’m honest
coral cliff
Except everyone forgot that he didn't actually drink the piss
minor ore
It’s the best jobro bond
final hawk
minor ore
Yea I honestly love giorno and didn’t he turn the piss into a frog
VA just had lame stands ngl
hidden smelt
do you all think Araki would get rid of this universe if he got tired of it like with the original universe
hidden smelt
no but like move on to a different one
minor ore
I don’t think so he is way too old I’ll be shocked if jojo doesn’t end at part 8
hidden smelt
i think he has 1 or 2 more parts
minor ore
I think it’s just extra long to make it special like the grand finale
final hawk
Me too, at this point i just want him to take his time to finish part 8
hidden smelt
most likely 1 with the rate of these parts
minor ore
I said it 10 times but it’s probably gonna have an extended story
After the main battle happens and everything is solved
hidden smelt
didnt araki say he would retire at 60
kind owlBOT
@hidden smelt, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
minor ore
He is almost 60 I doubt he will spend another 10 years of his life on a new part
That’s just sad ngl
hidden smelt
if he does another part it wont be as long
minor ore
I prefer having part 8 being extra long than a new part entirely
minor ore
We all would but sadly I don’t think it’s possible
He is gonna definitely take a break after jojolion
hidden smelt
He'll probably just do one shots
minor ore
That’s what I’m thinking
coral cliff
I like how Tooru's like "Oh, you want a picture of the Head Doctor? Oh, here you go"
lucid fiber
He absorbed the piss into his jellyfish tooth which he then turned into his actual tooth
hidden smelt
i want a johnny joestar one shot with him and his family
minor ore
He seems to be enjoying and putting more effort into thus spoke rohan
hidden smelt
is part 4 Arakis favorite part?
minor ore
I feel like one shots he can put much more effort onto since they are so short and they can be much more detailed and planned
He said josuke is his favorite
Jojo
And we all think rohan is his favorite character
hidden smelt
yeah
minor ore
I feel like we lost the part 4 feeling in part 8
Being a remake it didn’t feel like it
old marlin
Imagine that
lucid fiber
Almost like it's a different part
coral cliff
What if Tooru showed the picture of the Head Doctor to Yasuho in order to bait Yasuho
minor ore
It’s more of a part 4&5 mix
hidden smelt
part 8 doesn't feel like it talks about morioh or explores it as much as part 4.
coral cliff
Like to lure her into a trap or something
minor ore
Well pursuing the head doctor equals you get hurt boi
So yasuho is pursuing him meaning she will get in trouble
coral cliff
Exactly
hidden smelt
maybe tooru isnt showing his intent to kill or capture the head doctor because he knows he'll be attacked
coral cliff
Tooru is trying to eliminate Yasuho by tricking her into pursuing the Head Doctor
minor ore
Gappy was smart letting himself get shot to get to the doctor in jojo fashion
Yea but I think tooru will actually regret it or feel guilty and try to rescue her
Tooru is much like Yukako as I said
He might be this universes alternative cause Yasuho is the Koichi
At first having malicious intent (maybe because of their breakup and him still having feeling and also working for the doctor) and then him regretting it and helping rescue her
Probably get killed in the process
hidden smelt
i want the higashikata kids to fight together
minor ore
That’s my speculated ending the family splitting on 2 sides one Caatos and one Norisukes
hidden smelt
Joshu would side with his dad i think
minor ore
Caato will have Jobin, Tsurugi and Joshuu on her side
But later Joshuu will actually change sides
minor ore
Tsurugi is my personal favorite character of the part in being used by everyone
And everyone wanting him on their side since he is so powerful
Also I really feel bad for him as of lately killing people accidentally
Well hurting and killing
hidden smelt
like the baby
minor ore
Rip to that drowned baby
And the girl on the Metal Gate
But she isn’t that injured so it’s fine
hidden smelt
I want 20th century boy to suddenly make a return
fading cove
i want ger to just punch josuke and josuke turns into jolyne and diavolo
hidden smelt
what do you mean?
minor ore
I want gappy to sacrifice himself for holy kira curing her disease and finishing his goals and what he was truly created to do
And that is to cure her
Like the events of the part wouldn’t have happened if holy wasn’t sick
It’s all rotating around her when you think about it
hidden smelt
I think it might have a somber ending where something happens to yasuho and he has to choose between yasuho or holy
kind owlBOT
@hidden smelt, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !
minor ore
Oh I’m peepeepoopoo now
Isn’t part 8 more of a part 5 remake when you really think about it
hidden smelt
how?
minor ore
Having to fight a squad to get to the big boss, having a protagonist being the byproduct of a previous antagonist and protagonist much like giorno
In the fighting a squad I’m talking about the doctors and the big boss being the head doctor
Gappy also has similar style to giorno in killing his opponents
I think the part is more of 4&5 remake
I’m not sure but rei might be the one to die to help Gappy at the final battle too much like Bruno or the zeppelis
rai will probably die
that’s been my guess for a while now
Yea that’s sad cause I really like him from what we’ve seen from him
I also like that his stand is very close to stone free but used in an entirely different way
hidden smelt
He's the best character in part 8 imo
hidden smelt
If he does a part 9 I hope it's like part 3 and 6 where it's a large scale adventure
minor ore
I actually like it when it’s not like save the world type of deal it’s a little too much
I didn’t like part 3 at all if I’m honest
It was so boring you could skip the second half and go to the final battle and basically have all you need to know
🙈 also jotaro is hella overrated but whatever
hidden smelt
Part 6 is underrated though
minor ore
Part 6 is my favorite and Jolyne being my favorite jojo
I don’t know why it’s a trend to hate it
hidden smelt
Jolyne is my second favorite jojo
minor ore
Everyone is like I like this and this about it but I hate it
Like that don’t make no sense
hidden smelt
Shuckmeister kind of popularized the part 6 sucks trend
minor ore
Eh it’s not just him it’s so unique to other parts
Not that the lead is a female but that contributes
Just the stands are so wacky and fun a
hidden smelt
Everyone loves part 5 but I didn't like Diavolo
minor ore
But you can tell that araki was at a point where he was running outta ideas for stands and they were getting beyond overpowered
hidden smelt
Yeah
minor ore
Part 5 was kinda lame but it has bucci and giorno which are one of my fav characters
Mista also but he is a nasty boy
hidden smelt
Mistas awesome
hidden smelt
Mamezuku reminds me of a crafty rohan
minor ore
Even autocorrect knows that mista is nasty
hidden smelt
Mista doesn't wash himself smh
hidden smelt
Apple hates mista
minor ore
It do be like that
4:14am
Oop ima go to sleep too much jojo theorizing today my brain hurt ngl
💅🏻cya gamer squad fam cool dudes and dudettes 🤠
hidden smelt
Goodnight gamers
coral cliff
Guys I just had a thought
If what I've heard is correct
Tooru is supposed to be a reimagining of Yukako
Now, who's the only other character Yukako associates with
Other than Koichi
Aya Tsuji
And who does Tooru work for
The Head Doctor
So what if, the Head Doctor is going to play a similar role that Aya Tsuji did during Part 4
Gappy is supposed to be a heroic reimagining of Kira
While Kira was trying to conceal his identity
Gappy is searching for his
So what if the Head Doctor somehow gives Gappy an identity
We already know who Gappy is
But what if the Head Doctor does something
That causes Gappy to realize what his identity should be
Just a thought
hidden smelt
I feel like there's going to be a big twist
formal blaze
Ight, so here's my two cents
Because I called this a while ago
But the Head Doctor is absolutely the closest equivalent we will get
To the main antagonist of Part 8
Look at this fucker's face
Think about how stupidly overpowered his stand is
This bitch is villainous
I am 300% for a Yasuho Love Triangle
Especially because Jousuke doesn't... Really do much as Yasuho's love interest? Like you can tell he cares he just doesn't really add to her character or arc at all
Tooru does
Really interested to see where Tooru's character is headed
God I swear sometimes I forget Jojolion is like... Modern day Jojo almost.
Literally the Huawei and Apple namedrop just shocked me right out of the story LMFAO
final hawk
lol
inner yew
Tooru just wants Yasuho back because he likes her.
He doesn't really care about her or her goals.
But yeah, he is interesting, and I believe tied up in the villainy somehow
winter escarp
minor ore
I-
tidal ocean
bruh
formal blaze
The fact that the head Doctor looks like a Rokakakas is a valid observation, though
Voring aside
That was definitely intentional
minor ore
Well jobin the vitamin C dude and the head doctor share the spikes which are a reference to the rokakaka
formal blaze
Or to Shigechi from Part 4
HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED HEAD DOCTOR IS ALRERNATE SHIGECHI
minor ore
C’mon
Got’cha
For me the head doctor is an alternative kira having the same motive as him and the stand ability protecting his identity and him from being pursued
Also shares some design elements with shigechi and the kira from dead mans questions
lucid fiber
Bad Romance or Electric Chapel or Dance in the Dark would all be cooler stand names than Born This Way just off the top of my head
minor ore
Read the last part
This on Kareras wiki page lol
She hidin something 🤡
I think it was used cause Kyos stand is based on BTWs cover and it also fits Kyos motives
lucid fiber
Yeah fair
Also yeah that's one of those things I'm genuinely unsure whether or not Araki forgot
minor ore
Here for reference
lucid fiber
Not in the meme way but just in the that was years ago now right
burnt pagoda
Idk why but I feel like this fits the head doctor https://youtu.be/CX45pYvxDiA
lucid fiber
https://youtu.be/uL8d3Dk0pCg here's a good name for his Stand that absolutely will not be what it is
If we ever get a Cardigans Stand it'll just be named Lovefool 
proper salmon
how is that a good name for head doctors stand? in any way?
lucid fiber
Well you see it targets people that are trying to get in his way
By getting in their way
I was hoping other people would throw out stuff tbh
Anything is valid at this point
lucid fiber
No see it's a metaphorical like they're trying to get in the way of his plans
Or something
In trying to think of other random ass names it occurred to me that Wrecking Ball from part 7 retroactively became a musical reference
formal blaze
"Under Pressure" would have been a better name for Poor Tom's stand
lucid fiber
That's weird huh
Because it came out in 07 but without that context anybody would assume it's a reference to Miley
Unless there's a less famous Wrecking Ball that I can't find beneath the 2013 one
The Poor Tom fight is one of those weird ones where I remember it by the user rather than the Stand
That's mostly relegated to part 3
minor ore
Still haven't read this part but I do like the way some panels look already
Just can't wait to see if Johnny is in part 8
Well to not get spoiled
I'mma head out
minor ore
Johnny is scissors
formal blaze
It's unnamed as of yet.
sharp mauve
Paper Moon King.
kind sun
hoary sun
Tsurugi at the beginning is such a lil shit but i loooove him more for it tbh
daring lily
He is a alienated spoiled kid who has a man child father
Of course he is bad at interacting with other people
viscid mountain
The dog that araki never figured out how to draw is still alive?
fading cove
its likely dangerous pursuit
pastel adder
dangerous pursuit isn't a reference iirc
fading cove
has to do with the reference
long flax
what would you do with a drunken sailor
minor ore
jolyne been out
hoary sun
jolyne is the least smoochable
viscid mountain
Jolyne would break the nose of anyone trying to smooch her (except weather report I guess)
hoary sun
smooching gappy is like smooching two people
minor ore
so that makes you a slut
hoary sun
yes
minor ore
rare marlin
Jolyne may not be smoochable but she bae
hoary sun
i would wanna get drunk with jolyne that would be a riot
formal veldt
hmm it just occurred to me, does jojo not have a stand that disables other stands
or am i just not remembering it
formal veldt
but those aren't disable
thats steal
a stand that could just nullify stands would be cool
winter escarp
Isn't Echoes Act 3 technically a disable stand, since it disabled the functioning of Sheer Heart Attack?
winter escarp
ah
formal veldt
i think a stand like that could be cool
just like no condition like rock paper scissors or having to touch them, just an aoe disable
winter escarp
that would be a cool main antagonist ability
would really make the heroes think of how to approach him
like Bucciarati's Gang vs King Crimson
formal veldt
yeah the whole dynamic of the fight would just change
brittle blade
kind owlBOT
@brittle blade, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
minor ore
The coloring is weird
supple totem
Where can i find him?
quasi raft
Take a look at ✣ (@IlStarlight): https://twitter.com/IlStarlight?s=09
Twitter
@supple totem
brittle blade
tacit vapor
Good
ancient depot
that coloring looks good but it threw me off for a sec because it’s not the same style of coloring as shueisha uses for JOJO-D
finite ridge
tacit vapor
where i can read the new chapter?
tacit vapor
thanks man
winter escarp
supple totem
@quasi raft tjanks
viscid mountain
So if gappy is already a counterpart for jotaro, josuke and Giorno then the next jojo is just going to be Irene?
analog ether
There's no set rules on counterparts really
Next jojo could be a blend of Jolyne, Johnny & Mista for all we know
viscid mountain
Well that's true we got 3 speedwagon on part 7
winter escarp
The main jojo's appearance and personality depends on when Part 9 is set honestly
tidal ocean
...Assuming there will be a Part 9.
viscid mountain
Araki already said he had plans for a part 9 but anything could happen
ancient depot
or next jojo could just be
the next jojo
and then people will still find a way to say hes a mix of jonathan jotaro dio and trish because of 3 stupid little details
minor ore
Why gotta be so mad over people who wanna speculate-
I love this fandom but sometimes oof
ancient depot
no but gappy is diavolo right
minor ore
There’s paralleles making them connect so why not
ancient depot
no but rai is a combination of rohan and the superfly guy and jolyne why not
hes also related to the zombie horse
minor ore
I don’t see it with super fly but he has Jolynes stand but reimagined
Your whole argument is? To stop everyone from theorizing because you’re mad that you don’t get the connections. 😔🤡🙈
minor ore
This is the most cancer fandom i swear
Like
i love jojo too but sometimes its just
🤡
not this discord
but jojo fandom overall
ancient depot
lol fighting gold but coda is brushing his teeth guys
goku: power up
giorno: piano haha !!!
vale estuary
what
kind owlBOT
@vale estuary, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
vale estuary
omfg
viscid mountain
So now people hate on the Fandom for the theories and memes? Well I guess that's how internet works.
grizzled pilot
yes
heavy grove
To be fair, jojo memes are pretty terrible
daring lily
Some people just want sophisticated arguments of the art and nothing else. Which is a big part of jojo but they ignore the fun half of jojo
grizzled pilot
king crimson wins
stray reef
if i eat rokaka but dont ask anything what happen
queen fox
your pp will burn off
viscid mountain
stray reef
MY PEEPEE
queen fox
and why is that?
minor ore
It’s just such a bipolar part
One minute nothing is happening
oh look Johnny Joestar was just Shiizaa'd
Not to mention Part 8 has like three good stands
And only one of them is originally from Part 8
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
viscid mountain
I like it
minor ore
What in the blue fuck were you thinking, Araki?
Are you back on the LSD that brought us Battle Tendency?
If so then why isn’t JoJolion good??
viscid mountain
Anyone can like or dislike what they want don't worry I quite enjoy jojolion but if you don't well that's the risk of following jojo eaxh part is going to explore different themes and characters so it may be hard to like all of them
minor ore
jjl is pretty good
viscid mountain
But vitamin c was cool
ancient depot
the fights in jojolion arent my favorite and there are a couple stinkers but usually they’re pretty good
it shits all over whatever the hell the fights in part 3 were supposed to be
minor ore
Fair but
JJL got nothin on Vanilla Ice's death
"Go to hell"
very slight nudge into sunlight
viscid mountain
Part 3 is the most Shonen part and part 8 is the most seinen part
minor ore
The only thing that could have made that scene better is if instead of "go to hell" he said
ancient depot
that sentence definitely doesn’t mean anything
ancient depot
all of them??
viscid mountain
All of them
minor ore
The one where he was the most unique
ancient depot
but people will say 4 because muh old interview where he says he liked writing 4 the most
minor ore
I’m not saying which one he liked most
I’m saying which one just stands out among the rest as something that doesn’t fit in either company
viscid mountain
Probably 5, 7 or even 8 because in this one is where he said he could put all of what he couldn't on the other parts.
ancient depot
probably 4 is still the one that’s most “unique” if you’re trying to compare it to other battle series and other parts
8 is also a contender
retroactively 3 has become somewhat “typical” but that’s because of how much influence it had
without 3 we wouldn’t have shit like the chapter black saga
minor ore
Battle Tendency could definitely qualify if it wasn’t still Fist of the Joe Star
ancient depot
powers in general got influenced by stands
it’s not just ki anymore like when we had hamon
viscid mountain
Also the spin was something really unique.
ancient depot
battle tendency i think is pretty good but the most unique thing about it is joseph’s personality
people have said battle tendency feels the closest to a “typical” battle shonen and they really aren’t wrong
it just relies on the surprise factor a lot more
minor ore
Personally
I think One Piece is Shonen at it’s Shonenest
And I do not mean that in a good way
ancient depot
haha it’s funny because shonen isn’t a genre
so that sentence doesn’t actually have any meaning
viscid mountain
It is for the internet because we get what he means
ancient depot
death note is also just as shonen as one piece
viscid mountain
When it comes to genre yes when it comes to to Shonen tropes no we have common sense so we can use the word Shonen as a genre and get the point across. Why? Because we as humans are lazy and since it became popular to call certain characteristics as "Shonen" it will stay as that and we can't do nothing about it
It's as useless as telling people how to say "gif"
ancient depot
shonen is just “targeted to younger boys”
you can say battle shonen
you can say romcom shonen
you can say drama shonen
you can say sports shonen
that’s like 4 different genres
shonen has also become somewhat of a term used to demean shows, like something is inherently bad if it’s shonen when it literally just means what magazine it’s published in basically
one punch man
is a seinen series
so is berserk and modern jojo
but so is k-on
same thing there
seinen isn’t a genre either
k-on has nothing in common with steel ball run
but people think seinen just means mature show
shit ain’t ain’t ain’t ain’t aint ain’t ain’t mama mia
defining series by their target demographic is dumb in general
it’s demeaning to the work
viscid mountain
Yup and I get all of that.
But I won't be telling all of that to anyone who says something like "man this series is really Shonen" I get what he mean because it's a common term on the internet. It migh be demeaning to the work but at the same time not really because it isn't being use on the same context and obviously not on a professional way.
If I was describing a series to an audience and just say "it's a Shonen" you can correct me but here we are just a couple of guys on a discord chat and let's be real it can be quite annoying to correct people when, being realistic we aren't really going to change how they use the word "Shonen"
Like how people use "anime" to define a style of animation when it really just means "animation" on Japanese.
ancient depot
even then it’s become broader and broader to where korean and chinese animation gets on myanimelist
viscid mountain
Yeah but well that's just how the internet works even if a word or something like that is being used wrong its never going to change if it becomes popular like the whole thing that happened with bowsette the name is wrong because is bowser turning into peach not toadette but no one cared
kind owlBOT
@viscid mountain, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
quartz ermine
Please stardust crusaders is the literal definition of a shonen
Only around part 7 does it become a seinen
formal veldt
So basically shonen is just the equivalent of "kids show"?
upper knoll
I mean that's basically it
Shonen is for younger audiences, seinen for more mature ones
lethal hearth
I mean 12-18 is for shonen
pretty mature enough to watch seinen to depending on the persons personality
I'm 17 right now and I'm pretty sure the part 7 manga will suit me
burnt pagoda
Pg13
lucid fiber
Reading Baoh and man it's wild that https://s5.mangadex.org/data/84231a5c965e2bbede9e034f95db87fb/x13.jpg was drawn by the same guy whom decades later would draw https://mangadex.org/data/93333bb1d9d7400a459e8ae075bc32ec/F9.png
supple totem
G E T OUT OF MY CAR NOW
viscid mountain
I just noticed that from the perspective of the girl josuke just striked a pose on the middle of a tense situation and then the wall exploded.
grizzled pilot
its a manga. theres a manga page right there
its just a pre-jojo araki manga
it was his most popular one before jojo came around
fleet walrus
viscid mountain
All of jojo is weird but part 8 embraced it
sharp mauve
yeah right before i read jojo everyone told me how bat shit crazy it was
but honestly as i started loving jojo more, everything jojo became almost 2nd nature to me lol
instead of some weird outside thing
as a fan u probably just learn to love it all
xd
crude cove
Baoh is the base of how kars was made
queen fox
What do you mean by that lol
surreal island
Jojo makes you think things aren’t weird
Just a “coincidence”
That’s how I see it at least
sharp mauve
lol true
vague narwhal
When I was a lad I ate 4 dozen eggs
Every morning to help me get large
But now that I'm old I eat 5 dozen eggs
night vortex
And I'm roughly the size of a barge
grizzled pilot
i don't think JJL is especially weird
vague narwhal
NOOOO one Shoots like Gaston
grizzled pilot
it was always pretty bonkers JJL is just open about it from the start
vague narwhal
When I was a egg I ate 4 dozen lads every morning to help me get large
copper jay
what do y'all think is going to happen to mamezuku now? I don't know how long araki plans on keeping mamezuku with the police.
if he uses his stand to escape the handcuffs and run away, then he will be in even more trouble
minor ore
He didn't do shit to that guy
supple totem
i think hes mainly a suspect of partnering with the suspected murderer josuke
winter escarp
Yo that animation is sick
minor ore
Tooru better vouch for josuke
green nacelle
Vouch pouch
tacit vapor
will Jobin be the main antagonist?
minor ore
So according to the wiki, Milagro Man is based on 2 songs and an album?
burnt pagoda
What if
Joske has to get joubin to fight the head doctor
Honestly I wonder what will happen after (if) the resolution of this arc
kind owlBOT
@warm leaf, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
surreal island
What exactly is stand power
rich hearth
Jesus juice
winter escarp
Jesus told me to drink his juice
sly turret
Wait how are rock humans even born
lucid fiber
lucid fiber
No this is my response to where rock people come from
tacit vapor
not funny
west zealot
There's a Jojo character in Steven Universe now, it's okay everyone
formal veldt
yes
minor ore
Junji ito
modest sigil
viscid mountain
So on some moment between the brainstorm arc and the latest chapter Mamezuku had his birthday.
surreal island
Brainblast arc?
rich hearth
Reverse Shigechi
minor ore
Where’s my part 8 version of Rohan that stone human
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
coral barn
STAR FINGER
grizzled pilot
its just a neat little detail to parallel the original morioh i think
viscid mountain
I love that "mangakas that take lot of breaks are suspicious" I think guys that wear spikes on his clothes and hair are a bit more posible to be rock humans
minor ore
wait guys, yasuho fucked tooru
if tooru had one testicle
he was split into two
yasuho can just straight up give the plot away with saying he has 1
minor ore
quasi mason
neon mica
winter escarp
pastel turtle
I think the actual villain of part 8 is
kind owlBOT
@pastel turtle, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
pastel turtle
we are the villains of part 8
because we get raged of the villain not getting revealed
little zenith
Irony
granite acorn
boom but time 50
narrow bloom
i havent started jjl but: "speed king crimson"
grizzled pilot
okay
surreal island
Part 8 is turning out to have the latest antagonist reveal yet right
That makes me think there will be no main antagonist
It seems like josuke just smokes everyone
deep knot
Soft and wet is OP
If soft and wet has a more powerful version of itself
It could beat GER
Just plunder the power of NO
knotty mango
depends who activates their ability first
winter escarp
I mean Josekira has twice the balls
deep knot
crude umbra
E I G H T N I N E
final hawk
tidal ocean
89
minor ore
89
lucid fiber
89 bizarre doctor
lucid fiber
That was my joke but I guess I went too subtle
green nacelle
lol
tidal ocean
wow
vague narwhal
JOSHU IS BACK????
brittle blade
nah
heavy grove
Now i need an image of joshu with a gun
quasi raft
Do we have any voice lines of Soft and Wet doing the Ora Ora?
Like from the games
Since Tusk sounds insane I'm curious what SnW sounds like
vague narwhal
Yeah
quasi raft
Ima have to do some research
vague narwhal
Like when Jolyne shouts Ora it's amazing but Gappy sounds like his mouth is getting sucked
vague narwhal
Yeah
winter escarp
I love hers and Jotaro's combined attack, when they both Ora Ora Ora its like the sweetest thing to hear
vague narwhal
My brother plays the Dijirido and he sounds like hes making a ritual
winter escarp
I love Jolyne so much
vague narwhal
No
Hes canon in my heart
Also 36 Kars on Mars
Diavolo is Jonathan's son
4 Valentines who are Funnier
NYPD blue
Joji Joestar
Nero Island
3 Dolphin stands
winter escarp
winter escarp
sounds like a bad fanfic
cyan viper
bruh moment
winter escarp
bruhmomentum
tidal ocean
bruhment
vague narwhal
Why was Mists being such an asshole when Giorno was searching if King Crimson was on him?
He pissed me off so much
winter escarp
i like Mista
vague narwhal
Giorno wasn't gonna kill you so why be a bitch?
Fine then tell me why he was being an ass
ancient depot
because diavolo is fucking scary
vague narwhal
Yeah but I really wanna know why he was an ass
tidal ocean
Yoshikage best jobro ngl
ancient depot
scared as fuck
vague narwhal
He scared Polnareff
left iris
#jojo-overall-discussion? #vento-aureo? may i suggest perhaps #jojo-anime-discussion?
kind owlBOT
@left iris, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
vague narwhal
Dude
ancient depot
i mean yes kars is a worse villain than diavolo
ancient depot
this doesn’t make diavolo good
deep knot
I like diavolo cause doppio dynamic
left iris
hes just diavolo
vague narwhal
Diavolo better than DIO
left iris
he comes with Child though and u have to include Child in "diavolo" or else it doesnt work
winter escarp
If Diavolo is better than DIO i will jump off a cliff
deep knot
Nah DIO is better
vague narwhal
Wait a minute
ancient depot
Kira>Dio>Pucci>Valentine>DIO>Diavolo>Kars
deep knot
But I dislike Kars more
vague narwhal
Holly Kira isnt a villian
left iris
not yet
winter escarp
Kira>Valentine>Pillar Men>Pucci>Dio>Diavolo
left iris
pucci > kira > dio > valentine > diavolo > kars imo
vague narwhal
I'm betting Jobin
analog ether
Dio is CHARISMATIC
Kars
Kira is LIKEABLE
Diavolo is FASCINATING
Pucci is SYMPATHETIC
Valentine is COMPLEX
vague narwhal
Kira is also complex
ancient depot
explaining jokes makes them funnier i guess
vague narwhal
I seriously think Kira loved Shinobu
winter escarp
The only thing fascinating about Diavolo is the fact he wasn't hired to be a stripper at a strip club
ancient depot
nt
analog ether
Diavolo's fiiiiiine
analog ether
Stop being nerds
deep knot
Kira>Dio>valentine>Diavolo>Diego>wham>DIO>Kars
left iris
diavolos fine. remember to include Child
winter escarp
Diavolo is not fine
heavy grove
Diavolo is carried by how cool his stand is
vague narwhal
: 
analog ether
Diavolo is his stand, let's be real
winter escarp
Diavolo's a bad stand
vague narwhal
Diavolo is dilf
deep knot
Diavolo is great
left iris
diavolos carried by his stand and doppio (facts)
heavy grove
Doppio is diavolos stand
vague narwhal
If it weren't for Diavoli than part 3 wont have stands
deep knot
Why are we discussing this in the one chapter without a villain
heavy grove
Or vice versa
vague narwhal
Because he sold them to Enya
analog ether
Doppio's stand is making anything a telephone
ancient depot
the fact that this part doesn’t have a villain is why it’s being discussed here @deep knot
analog ether
Just consider them the same character 4head
kind owlBOT
@analog ether, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !
ancient depot
small brain
analog ether
eat my finger buddy
deep knot
Any predictions for jojolion villain?
vague marsh
Joshu
winter escarp
Joshu no doubt
vague narwhal
Jobin
deep knot
But king call isn’t intimidating enough
vague narwhal
Yes it is
left iris
holly
winter escarp
Joshu will screw over Josuke
left iris
holly is the main villain
vague narwhal
It can unscrew the world
cyan viper
Joshu is the 89 year old head doctor
vague marsh
Jobin can't be the main villain because he is the good guy
left iris
its holly
analog ether
jobin is the main villain
winter escarp
Guys why didn't you laugh at my joke
vague narwhal
Ok but seriously is Doctor Wu actually 89 years old
deep knot
Oh hahah
left iris
funny. i laugh
winter escarp
vague narwhal
This is not a joke I'm serious
deep knot
Nut king funny
vague narwhal
He looks way younger
left iris
wu tomoki isnt 89 years old, satoru akefu is
vague marsh
Jobin is getting cucked by the head doctor lol how can he be the main villain
analog ether
jobin is the main villain
winter escarp
My money is on Jobin too
left iris
@vague marsh thats his motivation
"i got cucked" the long awaited sequel to "condom broke"
analog ether
I wonder who's going to be the main villain
warm leaf
main villain is kira, its a man vs self story
vague narwhal
I'm still in the Ozone Baby arc lol
analog ether
The 2nd most important character besides josuke or his mom
vague narwhal
Should probably leave
vague marsh
Ozone baby second best arc
winter escarp
Poor Tom is a LEGO Fan, his favorite movie is The LEGO Movie
analog ether
shut
vague narwhal
Holly has Alzimers for christ sakes
left iris
- she made the rokakaka lab
left iris
and
warm leaf
the arc we're in right now is insane
left iris
- she made the lab where they keep the rokakakas
analog ether
No amount of evidence you could find could fucking POSSIBLY stack up to Jobin
heavy grove
Jojolion doesnt need a main villain
vague narwhal
What's next its Tsurugi?
vague narwhal
Also fuck Tsurugi
heavy grove
Adult tsurugi
vague narwhal
Creepy fuck
deep knot
left iris
yeah thats bc he doesnt know shes the villain duh
vague marsh
The main villain of jojolion is time because he won't finish it
winter escarp
that wouldn't actually be a bad concept