jojolion

[gleaming peak]

Well at this point who really is the villain

[wary galleon]

and jobin wanting nothing more

yeah

[rocky charm]

So the main villain is "whoever doesn't want Josuke to get the fruit"

[gleaming peak]

Even the rock humans aren’t really villains

[static pilot]

They will split

But itll go wrong

[wary galleon]

like everyone wants the rokaka fruit is kinda selfish

[gleaming peak]

Save for a select few

[wary galleon]

like

yanno dr wu

[static pilot]

And one will be positive gappy and one will be negative gappy

[rocky charm]

Of course it'd go wrong if they split

[wary galleon]

he was literally trying his best to help people

[static pilot]

And negative gappy has killer quern

[rocky charm]

Because Kira's body is gone

[wary galleon]

granted he was a bit fucked in his method but still

[gleaming peak]

You mean like red and blue superman

[static pilot]

Yes

[gleaming peak]

Oh god

[rocky charm]

There's a lot of Josephmmi and a little Kira

[gleaming peak]

red and blue superman...

[static pilot]

And evil gappy has killer queen

[rocky charm]

If Jousuke splits they'd both die

[gleaming peak]

Well yeah unless he splits and they are both healed

[static pilot]

I just want killer queen back in it

Someone elae has crazy diamond

[gleaming peak]

Kira would still be dead due to cardiac arrest and Josefumi would still be falling apart

[wary galleon]

dead mans questions

[static pilot]

To fix it

Crazy diamond appears

[gleaming peak]

Crazy Diamond can’t fix cardiac arrest

[static pilot]

Shut

Star platinun

[gleaming peak]

It could fix a heart attack tho

[static pilot]

Star platinum shows u0

[rocky charm]

Crazy Diamond could show up

[gleaming peak]

I mean crazy diamond has been used in graffiti throughout morioh

[static pilot]

And then crazy diamond with soft and wet fight killer queen

[gleaming peak]

Maybe that’s deeper than a cameo

[static pilot]

That artist

[rocky charm]

During the Born This Way arc

He looks a bit like Aisho

[static pilot]

Uses killer queen to erase his mistakes

[rocky charm]

But he's not

[wary galleon]

going underground

[static pilot]

I mean crazy d

[gleaming peak]

Yeah that’s what I was referring to

[static pilot]

Fuck

Im predicting tje ending rn

[gleaming peak]

I don’t think it would be that cameo ridden

[static pilot]

That artist teams up with sw gappy and fight kq gappy

[rocky charm]

I love how there are hearts around CD

[gleaming peak]

For the most part this is a new universe with fans comparing it to the old

[rocky charm]

Araki: btw did you know OG Josuke is my favorite character?

I only remember seeing Crazy Diamond the one time

[gleaming peak]

As opposed to Araki blatantly saying this is so and so in a new universe outside of people like Johnny

[rocky charm]

And that was the third arc

[gleaming peak]

Like how people say Kira is the new Jotaro, he kinda is

Only in placement on the family tree

[static pilot]

Its kira moxed with jotaro

[rocky charm]

Do you think Araki even remembers drawing that detail 7 years ago?

[gleaming peak]

Or like how Norisuke IV is Josuke

[static pilot]

In personality

[gleaming peak]

Maybe

[static pilot]

Its like jotaro and kira mixed together

Thats how he acts

[rocky charm]

I like the part where all of the Norisukes were actually Jos

For some reason

[gleaming peak]

The thing that amazes me is if Araki does confirm in some way Norisuke IV is just an older Josuke from part four in this new universe.... he put his favorite kid through some hell

Although the parenting style of Norisuke IV fits Josuke

Spoiling his kids

[rocky charm]

Araki: Eyes of Heaven is the only way the 2 Josukes could interact

[gleaming peak]

Enabling them

[grizzled pilot]

kira is his own person

so is josefumi

[rocky charm]

That instantly proves that the two universes are separate and willnot mix

[gleaming peak]

Kira is only Jotaro in the sense that he is Holly’s kid

[grizzled pilot]

they don't really have a counterpart

[gleaming peak]

Like how May Day Parker and Annie May Parker may both be Peter’s daughters but are not the same woman.

Or all of the various versions of Batman’s son before they made him a thing in main canon

People like to say Josefumi is Josuke but he is by far the most unique one of this new universe

Man though Holly can’t catch a break

[static pilot]

Always marrying japanese men

[rocky charm]

People only say Josephmi is Josuke because of his hair

[static pilot]

Never trust

[gleaming peak]

“Hey Pucci in this universe, mess with Jotaro’s mom harder than I did”

That’s a joke I know Pucci has no control

AndJosefumi’s top

Which are lame ways to prove it

“He’s like Josuke and Joseph in one guy”

“He has Joseph in his first name”

uhhh k

Concerning this universe Joseph I like the idea that he is an ironic hell

In america with the kids of his siblings slowly killing him as he is old and senile

While his daughter suffers in another country and he can’t see her

[tight pike]

es the beginning of the end for jojolion

[supple plaza]

Considering jojolion could wrap up this year or early next year depending on how long the next chapters are...

Are we ever gonna get closure on the wall eyes!

[static pilot]

Maybe

A uear is a long time

But thats only 12 issues

Hmm

[sharp briar]

yea, it would be super rushed

[supple plaza]

11

February is hiatus

[static pilot]

Oof

So maybe maybe not

[supple plaza]

It was like this last year too

[sharp briar]

since the whole final fight for SBR takes like 24 issue?

[supple plaza]

Jojolion is weird, if feels like they're going for the climax but there are so many unanswerable questions

[sharp briar]

can't remember how much but its quite alot

[supple plaza]

The Wall eyes, the bite marks, the origin of the curse, whoever the fuck the head doctor is

I feel like at least the latter two are going to be answered

[sharp briar]

and also the guy that Gappy remembered, unless its Damo pre design change

[supple plaza]

There are so many things we just don't know

Some people theorise it's jobin pre-change

But I don't know

[sharp briar]

hmm, it would be kidda cool if that guy is actually the head doctor

[supple plaza]

Also just because the head doctor is 80 doesn't mean they look old, rock humans age weirdly

[sharp briar]

yea

[supple plaza]

What the hell happened to my message

[sharp briar]

lol

[supple plaza]

Anyway

I still think Kaato is the main villain

Or co-main villain with Jobin

[sharp briar]

same but now there's a chance that it might be head doctor for me

[supple plaza]

Well what if Kaato IS the head doctor?

[sharp briar]

but her power fits with this new (possible) trilogy

damm

[supple plaza]

Was it ever stated the head doctor of the university hospital was male?

[sharp briar]

I don't think so

[supple plaza]

If she's a rock human, it would make sense

We don't really know anything about Kaato before marrying Noriosuke

[sharp briar]

yea and introducing main villain this late isn't a good idea

unless it will go on for like 50 chs

[supple plaza]

Also, if she's living a double life Diavolo style, wouldn't it make sense that there is no info on the head doctor?

So her family doesn't find out she's a rock human

She more than any other would have reason to hide her identity

[sharp briar]

thats an interesting theory, we really know nothing about her anyway

expect part of her stand which is kidda similar to D4C

[supple plaza]

Also she has power over the people who possess the branch, Jobin is her son and is confirmed to work for the Rokakaka business, and Tsurugi, her grandson which...well

You know

[sharp briar]

yea, do you think Tsurugi will turn into a villain? considered what he did this ch

[supple plaza]

If he really kill that kid and possibly kill Noriosuke in the future then yeah

He's definetly broken now, though. As the narration implies, his heart was swallowed in darkness

[sharp briar]

yea and they will start killing off character now so I don't think Noriosuke's death is BS

[supple plaza]

He's always been antagonistic too, messing with Yasuho with his stand in a very Un-childlike way

[sharp briar]

and Jobin is not the type to hurt his family, unless its the kaato

[supple plaza]

And allying with Yotsuyu

All the way back

[sharp briar]

if he does indeed turn bad, that would be really interesting

[supple plaza]

I still think Kaato is pulling the strings. Both to take revenge on Noriosuke and to get the branch for...some reason

We haven't seen her in a while

And Jobin since the end of the Poor Tom fight

[sharp briar]

yea she would make the most sense since we are already in the end game

[supple plaza]

Also there are certain panels of her that look really..main villain esque

It's a meta theory but you know

[sharp briar]

yep, the theory especially works for jojo

[supple plaza]

Also I feel like if there is a part 9

It will be the grand finale of jojo

[static pilot]

I want it in australia

[supple plaza]

It would fit. Three trilogies and over 30 years later it would make it pretty fitting end

[static pilot]

Jozza joestar and his stand down under

[supple plaza]

I unironically expect part 9 to be set in space.

[minor ore]

crikey

[static pilot]

Space australia

[supple plaza]

You know those ray punk old novels?

This style?

I unironically expect Araki to do something like this in part 9

[static pilot]

Maybe

[minor ore]

Spooky magic fruits

[sharp briar]

I'm so sad that Araki will prob not be able to write a manga anymore after part 9

possibly

[supple plaza]

The dude has made a legacy and is probably very wealthy

Don't be sad about it

[minor ore]

he deserves a break tbh

[supple plaza]

MIURA on the other hand...

[sharp briar]

yea he does

[supple plaza]

That dude better fucking finish Berserk

It's been MONTHS and we still haven't gotten a single new chapter

Say what you will about Araki but he is consistent

[sharp briar]

same with Togashi

the dude needs to finish hxh

[stark wagon]

Togashi wasn't that bad last year

20 chapters iirc

[sharp briar]

20 chapters in a year for a weekly jump is pretty bad tho

well I guess compare to berserk, its not as bad

[stark wagon]

yeah compared to old togashi too

[sharp briar]

that back's problem really gets him huh.

[sleek summit]

Well part 8 was a interesting read

Despite not being done

[spice crystal]

it’s very interesting

[gleaming peak]

Togashi’s HxH is going on too long tho

[green nacelle]

Voyage arc is like 2/5 rn

I even liked CA better but eh

[minor ore]

Do you guys really think araki will stop writing manga after part 9

It doesn't feel like he's getting tired of it tbh

[stark wagon]

He'll be so old though

maybe he'll write one shots or something but committing to a series must be demanding and hard

[minor ore]

hes still enjoying it deeply

which makes me happy to see

hes got a shit ton of motivation

[granite sedge]

A lot of creators lose motivation after that long, but you can tell Araki still loves Jojo to death.

[rich depot]

Is it confirmed that he's going to make a part 9?

[stark wagon]

nope

[granite sedge]

It's likely though.

Part 8 doesn't have a 'final part of Jojo' vibe at all.

[minor ore]

i just cant wait till im in my late 20s

rewatching all of the jojos

[gleaming peak]

More like late 80s

[hushed rover]

This part has the greatest stands in the series from what i've read so far

Born this way was really fucking cool

And Josuke doing a fuckin stag beetle fight with Noubin

[stark wagon]

I think I still prefer the ones in part 5

but ye Jojolion has some great ones

[knotty moat]

Unless araki is secretly immortal I think he'll stick to one shots after part 9

[hushed rover]

norisuke explaining how he runs his fruit shop and how he makes his smoothies is great too

hope he doesn't get yeeted

[knotty moat]

How far in are you?

[hushed rover]

on the chapter where josuke is fighting noubin with stag beetles

[knotty moat]

Nice

[hushed rover]

i probably shouldn't be in this channel since it's spoiler zone lmao

[knotty moat]

Ye

[hushed rover]

i'll be back when i caught up

[knotty moat]

Aight

[hushed rover]

like a month from now considering how fuckin busy i am

[knotty moat]

Bye brother

Oof

[hushed rover]

Peace out

[knotty moat]

Peace out my dude

[gleaming peak]

My favorite scene in jojolion so far is when Josefumi personally assaults the twins

It’s tied with how Gappy beat Damo and milagro man and lastly how happy Gappy and Yasuho were to see one another again

[stark wagon]

the twin scene is great

I was like "oh no he won't be able to fight them"

and then he just fucks them up

[cunning pendant]

how long is this part so far

should i just bite the bullet and start reading it

[mossy robin]

Yes.

[stark wagon]

Yes.

[gleaming peak]

The way Araki wrote Josefumi was like: He is super meek

And then when his big brother figure/personal savior is dying

I WILL BREAK YOUR LEGS AND STAB YOU IN THE FOREHEAD

I WILL MAKE SURE YOU TWO WILL NEVER FUNCTION AGAIIIIN

[mossy robin]

Well that's how it be.

[wary galleon]

everything that was hilarious in part 4 is just yanked to 11 in 8

ok so trick stand dice?

HOW ABOUT FUKIN STAG BEETLE FIGHT?

man living in transmission tower? cool.....

MAN LIVING ON FUCKING SKI LIFT

@cunning pendant Read part 8, start right now.

@stark wagon how did josefumi beat the twins again? i dont remember honestly

[minor ore]

Where’s the jojolion volume cover

I can’t find it

For the newest

[wary galleon]

let me see.....

do you mean this or?

this?

[gleaming peak]

So is Yasuho a daughter of new universe Koichi

Or just new universe Koichi

[knotty moat]

New universe koichi

[rich depot]

Look at Yasuho‘s Mom and Koichi‘s sister. They both have those pointed eyebrows, black hair, and small ears.

[gleaming peak]

Time to mess with people that hate him

[rich depot]

I say Yasuho is alt-Koichi‘s niece

[gleaming peak]

Although Yasuho’smom is like the opposite of Koichi’s in parenting

[rich depot]

I‘m talking about his sister

Even so, Johnny was a more jerk-ish form of Jonathan

The time frame also matches up better with her being Koichi‘s niece

[gleaming peak]

No I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just making an observation

Johnny is more like Joseph than Jonathan which is funny

[rich depot]

Nah m8, we cool

I can definitely see the connection between Joseph and Johnny

[gleaming peak]

Actually that makes it more interesting

[kind owl]

@gleaming peak, Your Gangstar cred is now level 14 !

[gleaming peak]

Koichi's mom is implied to be a helicopter parent who views her son as kind of a failure

Yasuho's mom just ignores her

[rich depot]

Hmm

A lot of the alternates seem to be opposites

Diego, for one, isn‘t a murderous maniac like DIO

He‘s moreso just trying to get up in the world, not usurp a noble family and take over the world

[merry kernel]

Finally I caught up

Wu Tomoki has never failed like a sleeping winter catfish

[green nacelle]

hah

[gleaming peak]

I wonder if he integrates into human society well

Cuz Rock Humans have to force themselves into a family

“Uncle Wu came over, ate all the food, and left after telling me I have breast cancer.”

[minor ore]

Will Araki ever accurately draw dogs in Part 8?

[white beacon]

araki will never be able to draw an accurate dog

[wary galleon]

danny was accurate

[mossy robin]

That's the dog!

[white beacon]

after danny, it went downhill...

oh wait, police was also drawn decently

and maybe arnold too but arnold has neck wound so he gets a pass

[mossy robin]

I prefer these little puffballs to Danny because they aren't on fire.

[white beacon]

*they aren't on fire yet

[wary galleon]

NO

DONT SAY THAT

i like puffball dog a lot tho

[white beacon]

sorry but uhh, where do they appear exactly? they aren't iwasuke's pups i'm sure

[mossy robin]

I like Tsurugi's rock dog.

[wary galleon]

saaame

[minor ore]

Soft and Wet......

How kinky for a sailor

[molten night]

im hyped af for the next chapter,too bad is in hiatus for february

[minor ore]

Doughy and Damp

Firm and Drench

[rocky charm]

Tender and Moist

[mossy robin]

Comfortable and Moist.

[minor ore]

Relax and Soak

[minor ore]

Wait so it's a new volume each month right?

[stark wagon]

no

new chapter each month

[minor ore]

Oh ok

Thanks

[rich depot]

I cri

[rocky charm]

There's a new colored volume ~once a month

Since a new colored chapter comes out every week

[green nacelle]

[clear mountain]

Rocky is so cute why

[wary galleon]

hes a dog

[rich depot]

That is clearly a bear

[rocky charm]

^^^

[rich depot]

And Iwasuke?

I‘m still not sure what that is

[rocky charm]

Iwasuke gets a pass since I'm pretty sure he's a rock animal and not actually a dog

[white beacon]

He's a rock dog, just like doremifasolatido

[rich depot]

You got rock right

I don't know about dog

Then there's late-iggy

He's no longer just a normal dog

no

He's just a dog with a real human head plopped on top

[slender scroll]

How long is the timeline on part 8?

Isnt it only a couple months?

[molten night]

@white beacon how that thing called Doremifasolatido is supposed to be a dog wtf

[white beacon]

because

rock dog

[molten night]

At least Iwasuke looks like a dog

[mossy robin]

Doremifasolati Do was a caterpillar IIRC.

[molten night]

Rock Animals are nosense for me

[white beacon]

if doremifasolati do was a caterpiller, i sure as fuck don't wanna know what it'll look like as a butterfly

[molten night]

Oh god no

[gleaming peak]

Part 9 is going to be about japan wanting to build a wall because rock humans are a bigger threat to their peace than ever

[minor ore]

Guys quick question

Why is the part 8 jojo named like the part 4 jojo (can u please try to not spoil anything

If u can’t spoil just don’t say anything

[stark wagon]

because Jojolion is a throwback to DiU in various aspects

There's an actual reason but you gotta read it to find out

[slate moat]

Cause he takes up that name because a character has a dog naked Josuke

[minor ore]

Also who’s josuke’s friend there,think his name’s joshu or something

[spice crystal]

‘friend’

that’s debatable

[mossy robin]

Joshuu is a scumbag.

[spice crystal]

he’s the weird son of the family josuke gets adopted into

[mossy robin]

He's a spoiled brat, but knows how to get things done and think for himself.

[spice crystal]

he’s got a good stand too

[minor ore]

Josuke's brojo is Yasuho Hirose

This universe's Koichi

[minor ore]

So wait

The guy with the fucked up hair is a scumbag? I thought he was socially ankward

[white beacon]

nahh, if anything, he's socially confident in himself

but like, in a scumbag way

[mortal lava]

should i make the higashikata residence in minecraft

[minor ore]

Also what does joshuu’s stand do?

I’ve seen it in eyes of heaven but i don’t understand his function

[stark wagon]

It's a bit like sticky fingers but instead of zipping he screws and unscrews things

[mortal lava]

i think he can make things into screws and also do the thing @stark wagon said

[minor ore]

Oh

So he can take a head out of someone’s body and put it back together?

[mortal lava]

he can like screwoff parts

[white beacon]

yeah

[mortal lava]

he can like put screws on someones wrists and screw of their hands

[grizzled pilot]

notably, at one point araki entertained the idea of NKC being josuke's stand

[mortal lava]

really?

[white beacon]

yeah, but instead opted for s/w

[grizzled pilot]

Originally, I was going to give the ability to attach screws to something to Josuke.
But, despite the development from when Joshu first has his eyes taken away....```

[white beacon]

which kinda sitll has similar properties

[grizzled pilot]

ya, they're both really good stands

[mortal lava]

interesting

[white beacon]

to take things and attach them somewhere else

which, y'know, kinda makes a good duality between josuke and joshuu

[grizzled pilot]

ya

[mortal lava]

what ar your favourite stands in part 8

[stark wagon]

Soft & Wet, Speed King, Awaking III Leaves

[mortal lava]

so far for me its been king nothing,paisley park,i am a rock,paper moon king and born this way

[grizzled pilot]

king nothing, paisley park, soft and wet, and awaking iii leaves

[gleaming peak]

I like yasuho’s stand design-wise

Something about map-skin is cool

Or star skin

Like The Constellation from ultimate muscle

[stark wagon]

Praisley Park is cool but it's one of those stands that can do anything and that annoys me

[grizzled pilot]

design wise i like soft and wet, king nothing, walking heart, and vitamin c

and killer queen, i guess

[gleaming peak]

Honestly since part 8 is like a rebooted part 4

I love the contrast soft and wet and crazy diamond have

I also like the patchy look the stands that the higashikata males have

[spice crystal]

If paper moon king isn’t your favourite part 8 stand then that’s reasonable and I’m sure you have your perfectly viable reasons for believing that but ur wrong

[gleaming peak]

I love paper moon king

[mossy robin]

It's only a paper moon.

[spice crystal]

king

[mossy robin]

Sitting under a cardboard tree.

[minor ore]

why are they all called king

[stark wagon]

who knows

[grizzled pilot]

eh

[minor ore]

cause they related?

[grizzled pilot]

no

[white beacon]

#justAUhigashkatathings

[spice crystal]

because they’re all in the family

it just be like that

[rich depot]

It's all foreshadowing for Kars' return with King Crimson

[gleaming peak]

Cars comes back with Killer Queen and an older Joseph

[clear mountain]

Kars*

[minor ore]

in the manga they actually say cars

its weird but i guess both are acceptable

i mean we all know who’s being talked about despite the letter change

[stark wagon]

If Araki never romanized it we can't know

But since he's inspired in the band Cars it should be with a C

[rich depot]

I‘ve never read the part 2 manga

So it‘ll forever be kars to me

[gleaming peak]

Oh I'm sorry, Nice.

You misunderstood me.

I meant Lightning McQueen.

From Cars.

[gentle edge]

I find it kinda funny why Gappy's named Gappy

he has a gap in his teeth

dat's it

[minor ore]

i have a feeling they are gonna split in half back to kira and josefumi at the end

and yasuho is gonna be in love with josuke or something (im not that far so idk if she likes him a lot yet or not)

and its gonna end on that note

as an addon to defeating the main villian

[mossy robin]

"Main villain".

You're in the #jojolion channel.

Did you mean to click away?

[minor ore]

no

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 6 !

[minor ore]

im just saying

i havent read that far but its very likely they will split apart

[mossy robin]

Well no.

It's not really all that likely.

Considering Kira died.
And Josefumi died.

Kinda.

[minor ore]

oh well his corpse

yeah

[raven quail]

Jojo is the worst thing Ive ever read. Ever

[white beacon]

Correction, *Joshu is the worst thing ever made

Not even human, he's a thing

[spice crystal]

Joshu is a not very good person

at best

[knotty moat]

joshu is like that one weird kid in the back of the class scribbling demons and shit in his notebook

[minor ore]

joshu was taking the piss

[static pilot]

joshu seems like hed jack off during class

[minor ore]

how

[static pilot]

his hair

and that line

idk

i've met kids like that joshu was very similar

tbh random media characters remind me of irl people i know for no reason all the time

[minor ore]

uve met kids who jack off in class

bruh moment

[static pilot]

b r u h

tfw the primary school you used to go to is now a special ed school

[raven quail]

I know a guy who jacked it during class. He did it in 8th grade

[static pilot]

i do currently

im in 9th grade this year

hes a mutual friend

i absolutly hate him cus e makes fun of

fun of me

he even describes how he does it without getting caught

[clear mountain]

How does he do it without getting caught

[static pilot]

he has a hole in his jumper pocket

and has his dick out under the jumper

[clear mountain]

STICKY FINGERS

ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI ARI

Arrivederci

@static pilot

[static pilot]

lmao

[clear mountain]

He’s a genius

[static pilot]

he is kind of a prick though

[clear mountain]

Of course, the kind of person who would do this will always be a prick

[static pilot]

he makes fun of me for being weird

[rain zephyr]

But what he does with his nut?

He just leaves it here?

[white beacon]

Hmm, actually, stop talking about this now

[static pilot]

okay lol

[clear mountain]

Heh

Prince guy is going to be the main antagonist

Or at least related

I can feel it

Also, doesn’t he have a pompadour?

[queen elm]

Nope

[spice crystal]

Not this one

he’s got a cool hat

[gleaming peak]

Did someone talk about Joshuu being a bad person

[mossy robin]

Well they aren't wrong.

[gleaming peak]

This whole universe is way more cynical

It’s like Marvel’s Ultimates but for jojo

[mossy robin]

Joshuu's still kind of a huge dick.

To everyone.

It doesn't make him a bad character.

[atomic juniper]

Why he use his stand to lick her big sis? Explain pls

[mossy robin]

A prank.

[spice crystal]

tsurugi did some voodoo shit

[knotty moat]

Isnt the higashikata family into incest?

[stark wagon]

no?

[knotty moat]

I thought hato fucked norisuke twice

[minor ore]

Wtf

[rich depot]

How‘d you get that impression lol

[rocky charm]

Yeah where the hell did you hear that

Joshuu wants to fuck Hato

And maybe Kaato

But he's Joshuu

[knotty moat]

Wasnt theres a panel where norisuke said he had sex with hato twice

smh who wouldnt wanna fuck hato and kaato

[rocky charm]

No there was nothing like that

Wait

I think you got confused during Damo's introduction

When Hato said "we've only done it twice" she was talking about her and Damo, not her and Norisuke

[knotty moat]

Oh I'm fucking stupid

I'm actually mad at myself rn

[granite sedge]

You have dragged Norisuke's name through the mud.

[noble zenith]

sad

[wary galleon]

What the actual fuck man thats messed up

[static pilot]

What is?

[minor ore]

put some mf respect on joshus name cuh

[wary galleon]

Joshu is basically 50% of 4chan

Hes a fucking meme

[merry kernel]

Joshu is specifically /r9k/

[fair sequoia]

okay guys so i finished reading up to part 7 by the time part 3 was coming to an end

and i was very hesitant on starting part 8 because off how much of a shift there is in the story (read first 5 chapters and was very confused) do you guys suggest waiting for the end of part 8

[kind owl]

@fair sequoia, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

[fair sequoia]

or deal with the monthly releases

i am a fast reader

[void viper]

I'd say deal with the monthly releases, because I was the same (except with part 4 instead of part 3) and I've been finding it fine

[wary galleon]

Wait, someone remind me, It's Kira that had the KQ Bubbles yea that blew up?

[minor ore]

Yeah

[gleaming peak]

Joshuu is like 4chan

They think they are so cool and yet at best all they have are some memes...

Also very opinionated

Maybe bad with money

[minor ore]

Joshuu doesn't want to fuck caato

[rocky charm]

"Let me suckle them" he says as he uses his Stand to take off her clothes

[gleaming peak]

I think that scene is more a representation of how Joshuu has no idea on how to interact with women

And his entitlement

[white beacon]

and just being a total ass

[gleaming peak]

Well that comes with being entitled, so....

He has no female figure in his life and his dad enables everything

He has uh

A young sister who kind of tunes him out, an older sister who belittles him often, and a maid who is so forgotten about it seems like even the author forgot her.

[white beacon]

also yeah norisuke hella enables joshu somehow, even though he pretty much knows it ain't gonna be for a good purpose

[gleaming peak]

It’s telling that when Norisuke just tries to tell Joshuu he needs a job, Joshuu ignores him and asks for money again

And Norisuke gives him the money.

Just forks it over.

And then you have Yasuho who just runs away from him, which is arguably worse for Joshuu’s development.

Why didn’t Norisuke remarry honestly

[white beacon]

maybe norisuke babies joshu a lot cuz he's the only son..

oh wait no

jobin exists

[gleaming peak]

Well he babies Jobin too

[white beacon]

yeah now i'm lost why norisuke enables joshuu a lot

[gleaming peak]

But Jobin already has more of a maternal influence

Well Norisuke enables all of his kids

We just notice it with Joshuu more

Since Joshuu so far is the only one with at least two arcs with him as center focus

One of which involving him being the primary lead

Daiya is pretty bad too considering she was perfectly fine with emotionally and mentally manipulating a boy because she liked him.

[minor ore]

The joshuu scene

He was just fucking around

He hates caato for abandoing them

[gleaming peak]

Yeah and he has no idea how to properly explain that so his first instinct is to go nuts

He either runs away or he smashes

Like Ricegum from youtube

[minor ore]

He was provoking her

[spice crystal]

he’s fucking weird

and the scene with kaato makes it even worse

[wary galleon]

I think ita more

"Hey this bitch is a cunt lets embarass her"

[spice crystal]

so he acts like a creepy fucker

[rich depot]

Ah yes, my go to way or embarrassing someone is sexually harassing them.

10/10 Joshuu

[wary galleon]

well yeah

he is a total fucking bedroom warrior incel who only leaves the house once a month

tthats how i fucking imagine him anyway

[gleaming peak]

Well he has no known friends

Not even people who associate with him for money

[wary galleon]

except his stand

[gleaming peak]

Pffft

[white beacon]

does nkc even like joshuu, if it was sentient.....?

[wary galleon]

yes

because joshu is incredibly self asborbed

[kind owl]

@wary galleon, Your Gangstar cred is now level 20 !

[wary galleon]

hell yeah

slightly darker blue

[gleaming peak]

You make him sound like Shigekiyo

[minor ore]

Who

[wary galleon]

dont you tell me joshu isnt the part 8 version of Shigekiyo

it's Shigechi's real name

[minor ore]

Oh

[wary galleon]

the fact you dont remember shows your true devotion to part 4

[rich depot]

Shigechi was a Pimp, not a creep

Big difference

[minor ore]

Hey I never said I was devoted to part4

[wary galleon]

how dare you claim that

that's like saying

Hey i never said i was devoted to being a good person

[minor ore]

[wary galleon]

XD

i love that emote

[gleaming peak]

Oh no wait Joshuu is worse

Shigekiyo at least wanted to save his parents from Kira

Joshuu’s known last interactions with his parents are molesting his mother and nagging his father for money

[minor ore]

He loves norisuke

All of them do

And his mother is a cunt

[wary galleon]

norisuke is too good for us

we do NOT deserve norisuke

norisuke is the new age speedwagon

[minor ore]

This

[rocky charm]

We don't deserve Norisuke?

You might not wanna read the latest chapter

[wary galleon]

we dont deserve him

he;s too perfect

cries in fruit

[stark wagon]

One day the whole world will appreciate norisuke

[mortal lava]

legendary

[minor ore]

I dont remember that panel

Even tho it's memed so much

[rocky charm]

It happens after Born This Way? I think??

Either that or after they meet up after I Am A Rock

[minor ore]

Remember when Josuke gave a shit about Yasuho

And she was his motivation

Damn I miss Josuke having a character

[mortal lava]

its after that guy with the rokakaka in the park. the rock human

i think

[green nacelle]

There's like 50 panels on Jojolion you could make C tier memes of hah

[mossy robin]

Josuke does care for Yasuho he's just split in the middle of something.

Ironic, considering what he is.

[rocky charm]

Yasuho: Look at all the evidence there's no way the Rock People have the branch
Mai: Lol bitch you think I'm wrong?
Jousuke: I have to side with Rai here listen to his valid argument.

[minor ore]

^

Josuke is being too submissive to Mamezuku

It doesn't feel like he's being himself

[rocky charm]

Doggystyle actually has two abilities

One is Stone Free 2.0

The other is Doggystyle Submission

Which makes everyone agree with you

[mossy robin]

I mean.
He wants that fruit.
And Mamezuke is the plant appraiser.

He's been right so far so why wouldn't he be now.

Despite us knowing Jobin has the branch.

Yasuho knows it too, pretty much.

[rocky charm]

But Yasuho has evidence like "Wu didn't have it and is still looking for it"

While Mamezuku has "evidence" like "Bitch you dare listen to that ho?"

[mossy robin]

He and Josuke did see the branch get taken away from the orchard and I think that's just the reason they don't try to find anything else.

[rocky charm]

Mamezuku: "The branch never left my sight"

Y'know, except when he sat there while Poor Tom ran away

For all he knows Poor Tom tripped and the branches got mixed up

[mossy robin]

Their only solid proof is that Josuke saw it being carried away by the ambulance.

[rocky charm]

I wouldn't really call that "never left his sight"

[mossy robin]

Which did lead them to Doctor Wu.

[stark wagon]

I hated that part of the last chapter too

But saying josuke doesn't care about yasuho anymore is a stretch imo

[spice crystal]

I think it gives josuke more character

it’s realistic

[rocky charm]

And obviously, this subplot showing up at the same time as Tooru is going to lead into Yasuho spending a bit too much time with Tooru

Jousuke gets jealous

And bada-bing bada-boom manufactured drama time

[spice crystal]

josuke is, along with Johnny, one of the most real characters

he’s been strewn between an elder he needs to have on his side and his love interest who is just, well, his love interest with a good stand

so he’s forcing himself to focus on his goals over love

which is anything but lacking character

[mossy robin]

I like Josuke.
He seems like a cool dude to hang out with.
Not to mention he can fix anything.

[granite sedge]

I'm paranoid that Yasuho dies soon, and Josuke doesn't realize she was right about the branch until she's already gone.

[rocky charm]

Can Josuke fix my dog?

The vet fees are pretty expensive

[minor ore]

Josuke is just being a dumbass

Uhhhhh I wonder who in the Higashikata Estate could change people's perception of stuff
...
...
...
Nah Yasuho is just wrong

[rocky charm]

Hold up

Does Josuke know about Paper Moon King

It was used on Yasuho

Then used on Aisho while teaming up with Yasuho

Then used on Josuke, Poor Tom, and Mamezuku while teaming up with Joubin

I don't think Jousuke knows about Tsurugi's Stand

[green nacelle]

Tooru lol

Guy is a spontaneous yuppy

[minor ore]

@rocky charm he knows that tsurugi made people undistinguishable

[granite sedge]

I low-key feel like Tooru is going to end up being the head doctor.

[green nacelle]

Lot of pump fakes and red herrings in this part it seems

[spice crystal]

he won’t

the head doc is like, 89

[minor ore]

^

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 10 !

[granite sedge]

But do rock humans age like normal humans?

[spice crystal]

they don’t look 20 when they’re 89

that’s for sure

and since yasuho managed to break up with him without dying

it’s safe to assume he’s not even a rock human

[cunning zodiac]

tooru is probably safe territory for now

[granite sedge]

If the head doctor hasn't had a gender confirmed, I wouldn't be surprised if it was somehow Kaato. It would bring her into the story.

She has every main villain flag except 'how could she be involved'.

[cunning zodiac]

she had some main villain flags that have been transferred to jobin mostly, but jobin probably isn’t the main villain tbh

[granite sedge]

Jobin doesn't have the vibe though.

He comes across as a genuinely decent person when he's not doing shady things.

He also doesn't have a villain Stand. No time-space fuckery.

[cunning zodiac]

i mean the tsurugi theories concerning the most recent chapter also brings him up as an option

[kind owl]

@cunning zodiac, Your Gangstar cred is now level 7 !

[cunning zodiac]

ty

[wary galleon]

if araki does the whole manufactured thing... im gonna bust a vien

also we know speed king has hidden abilites so he could have time fuckery

if araki does the whole manufactured thing... im gonna bust a vien

and also he could just be more kinda fv in motive, he wants what's best and just ends up being the main villian because of his juxaposition

if araki does the whole manufactured thing... im gonna bust a vien

[merry kernel]

bust a nut

[clear mountain]

I doubt Jobin’s going to be the major antagonist

It’d be cool to see him as an opposing force still

Kind of like La Squadra

[knotty moat]

Ye

Jobin is probably gonna end up as the Diego of part 8

[granite sedge]

Yeah, I'm thinking Jobin is more akin to Diego or La Squadra. A villain who opposes the heroes, but ends up opposing the big bad just as much.

Though that might be hard to see happening if Kaato is the villain like most people think.

[wary galleon]

jobin is like, 80-20 not for me

like i can see it but i dont except it

[hushed rover]

Is anyone else’s mangadex not loading jojolion chapters

[green nacelle]

Is there really a villain type stand?

Or just a string of coincidences?

[granite sedge]

They all manipulate time or space in some capacity.

[green nacelle]

Araki will prob switch it up just to make 8 more eccentric than it already is now

He's aware of what he's doing hah

and technically KQ didn't manipulate time until the end

[cunning zodiac]

still fit the main villain circumstance though

[green nacelle]

true

[clear mountain]

Am I the only one here who thinks love love deluxe is hot?

[stark wagon]

It's pretty hot

[mossy robin]

Love Deluxe VS. Love Love Deluxe.

[clear mountain]

Could Yukkako control the new hair?

[spice crystal]

love love deluxe isn’t hot

it’s fuckin weird

[clear mountain]

Looks pretty hot to me

Have you seen the curves

[spice crystal]

oh you mean the stand design

[clear mountain]

And the afro(s)

Yes

[spice crystal]

still weird

[clear mountain]

Well maybe Araki shouldn’t make almost everything resembling a female (with the exception of tsurugi) so attractive

In part 8

[rocky charm]

She's not that attractive

[stark wagon]

I raise you this

[white beacon]

such a glow-up from her first appearance

[gleaming peak]

So did Joseph read superman in sbr universe

Again

[green nacelle]

shag carpet

lmao

[clear mountain]

I’d shag her carpet alright

[granite sedge]

The only fuckable Stands are Star Platinum and Paisley Park.

[mossy robin]

Soft and Wet exists you cuck.

[white beacon]

To anyone tuning in, don't continue this topic

[clear mountain]

Where are the rest of people bitten near the wall eyes

As far as we know, it’s just Jouske, Joshuu and Yasuho, and implied to be the residents of the Hishigatikata estate

But has no one else ventured near the wall eyes?

[gleaming peak]

What if rock humans are born from the wall eyes

Or it’s like an arrow scenario but not as lethal

You can get bit but not get a stand

[rich depot]

The rock people just have stand arrows implanted in their teeth

[stray reef]

Bruh

[mossy robin]

Tsurugi what are you doing cease that.

[rain zephyr]

Za hando

[rich depot]

Those are some freaky horse legs

[mossy robin]

Those are shadows.

[rich depot]

But like

The mailbox‘s shadow is pointing in the opposite direction

[mossy robin]

Then the light is coming from directly above.

Noon.

[rich depot]

It‘s shadow wouldn‘t be so long at noon, more like a small one near the base

[hushed rover]

This fucking guy

Joshu is a national treasure

[hushed rover]

I’ve finished the stag beetle arc.

And I thought Kakyoin betting his soul on a video game battle was out there

But why did Joubin put wax in the beetle

[mossy robin]

To control it.

With heat.

Speed King can do that kind of thing.

[green nacelle]

heato masta

[knotty moat]

I genuinely hated how johnny died

[clear mountain]

Damn

Johnny’s Stand should’ve been called I Am a Rock

Am I right?

Or amirite?

[knotty moat]

If tusk got changed to I am a rock I wouldve died of a seizure

[gleaming peak]

The Stag Beetle arc is like medabots but not bad

So uh

How did George II marry an Elizabeth

Was that name even a thing in japan back in the day

Maybe he immigrated

... The family tree still bothers me...

[white beacon]

Maybe an elizabeth from britain came to japan and married george

[gleaming peak]

hmm

ohhh a foreigner

and then maybe joseph left japan

🤔

Kira has to be at least 9/16 japanese, right?

So like

Kira has to have some form of money, right?

[white beacon]

Yen?

[gleaming peak]

Well

Maybe not A LOT like Jotaro

Or Joseph

But enough to front his mom’s bills I just wonder if the Joestars are okay financially in this universe

Iunno I just want to know more about this joestar family

If only Araki did like, an sbs like Oda

[wary galleon]

I dont think its as much because like, if the heir to a giant fortune went missing thered be more panic and searching morioh

He was just well off because of his job, hes a danm doctor

[mortal anvil]

Welp i made it to the rape scene

Rip me

[wary galleon]

xd

[spice crystal]

joshu sure is a disgusting human

[wary galleon]

joshuu is like

but he found 4chan

[mortal anvil]

His hair is pure evil though

[spice crystal]

no, shigechi is pure

how dare you

[mortal anvil]

Shigechi is a durian fruit

And i love him

[spice crystal]

he’s a naive and greedy boy but he’s not like joshu

[wary galleon]

shigechi died to basically lose kira again

[mortal anvil]

Is it alright if i share my favorite panel so far?

[wary galleon]

yeap

[wary galleon]

this is basically #jojo-overall-discussion but you can only talk about part 8 here

[mortal anvil]

Ooooh

[wary galleon]

XD

[mortal anvil]

Is that what this is

[wary galleon]

yeah i love that

yeap

basically all the discussion channels are 100% spoiler friendly FOR THE PART

[mortal anvil]

Ah i see

[wary galleon]

so we cant discuss part 1 spoilers for example

[spice crystal]

I mean, you can refer to other parts but the focus of conversation should be jjl

[wary galleon]

yeah

[spice crystal]

yes we can what

[mortal anvil]

Ill probably go in that chat room once i finish part 8

[kind owl]

@mortal anvil, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

[spice crystal]

I’ve talked about the stone ocean ending in here and sbr

[wary galleon]

yeah we can spoil others im dummmjy ignore that

yeah honestly get up to date with part 8

its so fucking good

[spice crystal]

you are massive wrong

[wary galleon]

I AM

:(

[mortal anvil]

Yea ik

[spice crystal]

part 4 still better but you know what it’s still beautiful

[wary galleon]

youre wrong im sorry

[glass lily]

gappy is my favourite jojo

[wary galleon]

where did the name gappy even come from?

[mortal anvil]

Not sure but i can only assume its his hair

[glass lily]

he has a gap in his front teeth

[spice crystal]

his teeth

[glass lily]

that is the only reason

[wary galleon]

oh

XD

[glass lily]

I prefer to call him gappy than jo2uke or part 8 josuke

[stark wagon]

Same

Josuke automatically makes people think you're talking about part 4 it's annoying

[clear mountain]

Maybe that’s why he did it

I like the naming scheme personally

[stark wagon]

I like Johnny/Jonathan

But two josukes is meh

[clear mountain]

In Jouske’s words

It’s Greato

[gleaming peak]

In europe or america it’d be more likely for Jonathan to be called Johnny than JoJo anyway

Well Britain but yeah

So if Kira has all the same family history as Jotaro does that make him British, Italian, and Japanese?

[minor ore]

Aren't Jotaro half Japanese half American @gleaming peak?

[stark wagon]

Jotaro is 1/4 Italian, 1/4 British, 2/4 Japanese

From what we know

[minor ore]

Why Italian again? My memory recently is becoming garbage @stark wagon

[stark wagon]

Holly is half italian cause of Suzie Q

[minor ore]

Oh I remember now

[gleaming peak]

Yeah

So Kira has to be roughly like

9/16 japanese by default

[minor ore]

@gleaming peak

[green nacelle]

Kujo woman 👀

[granite sedge]

Who's this 'Kyo Nijimura' character?

[gleaming peak]

No I’ve seen that

We don’t know where they are from though

That theory seems interesting

What if it isn’t Joseph but one of his siblings

[minor ore]

@granite sedge An hot maid

Can someone send the Higashikata family tree?

[granite sedge]

Sounds forgettable.

[gleaming peak]

Uhhh as far as we know it goes Norisuke I, Rina and some others where Rina married Johnny and a Norisuke II, then Norisuke III and Tomoko then Norisuke IV

[minor ore]

@minor ore hold on

[green nacelle]

Kato is baee

[minor ore]

@minor ore

[gleaming peak]

Johei

That’s interesting

He has a Jo

As opposed to Part 4 Josuke who had Ryohei

[green nacelle]

[minor ore]

[gleaming peak]

Ah yes number 4

I wonder what appealed Rina to Johnny

Cuz in part 1 it was Erina’s strong character

But 🤔

[minor ore]

Johnny likes Japanese

He's a weeaboo confirmed

[granite sedge]

That must be an old family tree.

Kaato doesn't even have a picture.

[wary galleon]

he went to japan and fucked the daugheter of some great racer

[stark wagon]

did he go to japan?

I thought Rina was in america during the SBR race

might be misremembering it

[wise sleet]

Neon Genesis Jojolion

[gleaming peak]

Johnny went to japan to court her, they went back to Kentucky

She was dying he took her to Morioh because she wanted to be at home as she died

He instead decided to use jesus to save her and it killed him in the long run and it is assumed that if George didn’t leave Japan, or a descendant didn’t leave Japan at all, the Joestars have been in Morioh for at least a century

It could also be very possible that George’s older sister left Japan but George did not

[minor ore]

Perhaps George decided to stay with his mother

Ya know to support her after her husband got killed by a rock

[gleaming peak]

That’s very possible

[minor ore]

Shizaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I mean
Joestaaaaaaar

[gleaming peak]

What bugs me is like

How throw away the family tree is

[minor ore]

The Higashikatas and the Joestars?

Or only the Joestars?

[gleaming peak]

No the Joestars

[minor ore]

I'd like to see George's bizarre adventure

[gleaming peak]

Yeah like

George would have a completely different life in this universe than just dying

[minor ore]

Perhaps he had a stand

Would be interesting he meeting the Higashikata

Also seeing old Morioh-Cho

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 21 !

[minor ore]

it bugs me joseph is in this universe

Yeah we didn't even see him

[gleaming peak]

I still wonder if Joseph is old and withering away in another country

[minor ore]

araki said in the og universe joseph was prolly alive in stone ocean but senile asf

[gleaming peak]

Yeah and in this universe Joseph has nieces and nephews

Who might be abusing him somewhere else

[knotty moat]

Tsurugi is hardcore as fuck

[gleaming peak]

Tsurugi is scary

[knotty moat]

The way he killed aisho was just fucking brutal

[gleaming peak]

He’s a lot like what his grandmother has been shown to be unlike his dad and grandfather

[knotty moat]

Tsurugi might be one of my favorite jojo characters ngl

[wary galleon]

most excited scene to see animated

and tbh the entire poor tom stuff

i fucking love when fruit appraiser just turns into string to save himself

[white beacon]

Huh, speed king looks like an actual chauffeur here

[wary galleon]

i love how the stand design makes it look likes its going

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[white beacon]

It's always in scream face cuz jobin keeps on making it do weird stuff

Like heating up beetles and driving a car

[wary galleon]

xd

[white beacon]

Speed King: why must you do this to me. I am capable of much more. but i cannot go against your words, nor can i express in my voice. thus i must only express in my face, my screams of freedom

[mossy robin]

Speed King's ability is actually to make reality bend to it's will Jobin just doesn't use it.

[wary galleon]

see imagine if Speed King's real ability it to speed up time for everyone but himself

and like not ina fucking shit way

i mean more ok so

someone runs at jobin, he activates Speed Kings time speed up

that person starts running at double speed but is still only thinking in normal speed because of the sudden change

[white beacon]

Or maybe it's the ability to rapidly speed up molecules in a given target to create heat?

[wary galleon]

so they just fucking cant react quick enough to punch him and just straight past him into a wall

i mean that is his already given ability

[white beacon]

Oh you mean hidden ability

[wary galleon]

yeah

like ok

he can shoot a bullet then instantly speed king it up to make it twice as fast

so even like, a stand reacting at half speed cant react

[white beacon]

Hmm, that would be nice, the ability to speed up individual objects

It makes sense for his heat ability cuz he speeds up molecules in the object to heat it up

[green nacelle]

Jobin >>>

[knotty moat]

I really love the progression of tsurugi's character

During his first kill he was hesitant as fuck and only killed aisho because he was gonna to kill him and yasuho but now he just murders a little girl because she made fun of him about his murderous grandma

[wary galleon]

im excited to see what we're gonna get instead of janken boi in this

[knotty moat]

Wdym

I thought part 8 was gonna hit the climax and end after doctor wu

[wary galleon]

well most part 4 fights have parralels

but i guess janken is gonna be skipped style

ah well we had a great alt gambling arc with stag beetles

[knotty moat]

The only parallel I noticed is doctor wu/cinderella

[wary galleon]

well

also

blue lagoon and highway star