A Frozen Rabbit Embryo
#šlore-discussion
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Captain Li offers them tea. Mara cannot imagine the ways in which she is butchering what must be an intricate and meaningful tea ceremony. Li serves some very battered pre-Traveler ceramic sloshing with hot green tea, then immediately adulterates her own cup with milk from the Cow Thing on the biodeck.
small quartz
Cow Thing?
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Cow Thing
small quartz
```Captain Li offers them tea. Mara cannot imagine the ways in which she is butc...
maybe its a cowlike thing?
Im thinking of a robocow apparatus
empty fern
Omg, someone genuinely interested in the weird things of lore, thatās rare
remote sky
So what are those pillars shooting out of the monolith in the pale heart? They seem to have appeared after the raid but before excision
lofty badge
Omg, someone genuinely interested in the weird things of lore, thatās rare
like the calus nipple lore?
worldly river
Still waiting on whatever multimedia shit Bungie agreed to be acquired by Sony for
The same shit which they promoted Luke Smith to specifically oversee
They also hired an exec from Warner Bros/Discovery (who also previously worked for Crunchyroll), a guy who directed LoL animated shorts, a former Riot exec who worked on Arcane...
slender ether
So spoilers from the first act.
||when saint was being controlled, did his ghost do anything about it? I dont own the season pass so im curious on what he did||
worldly river
No
worldly river
So spoilers from the first act.
||when saint was being controlled, did his gho...
I don't think we've heard from Gepetto about the incident at all
slender ether
I don't think we've heard from Gepetto about the incident at all
I assume gepetto and saint are on good terms right?
One of the trials of osiris lines seek to make it that way (kinda)
worldly river
I assume gepetto and saint are on good terms right?
As much as any other Ghost that isn't named Ophiuchus
slender ether
As much as any other Ghost that isn't named Ophiuchus
So they are on good terms?
fresh zephyr
I lowk believe the Guardian can solo most characters in fiction, like marvel and dc and shi
slender ether
I lowk believe the Guardian can solo most characters in fiction, like marvel and...
I very much doubt that. People like batman can survive architects. The guardian doesnt.
dim minnow
What powers did he get from **the deep**
The Witness can likely do something along those lines
it knew the history of several characters like Zavala and Crow
stark fjord
Do u think his powers stem from his species or his connection to the veil
dim minnow
it also has access to advanced Deepsight (which is what happened to Mars)
dim minnow
Do u think his powers stem from his species or his connection to the veil
most likely due to the Primordial Darkness from the Veil
blazing wasp
Jojo alone has such bullshit it directly counters our Guardian with at least two of them
stark fjord
if saint is a vex copy then how does he have light
last time i checked vex cant simulate light
hollow drum
i thought he was just from another timeline is he actually a simulation
trim grotto
if saint is a vex copy then how does he have light
Because he isn't a Vex copy.
dim minnow
> Jojo alone has such bullshit it directly counters our Guardian with at least t...
I feel that the Guardian's ability to "make their on fate" could counter many of the stronger stands
since predetermined fate is a huge theme in JJBA
blazing wasp
I feel that the Guardian's ability to "make their on fate" could counter many of...
I ment like WOY unless we propose a guardian can conjure nothing into existence
And GER is a literal direct counter to paracausality
Because those are bullshit and only a significant ass pull could ever handle those
little gorge
I ment like WOY unless we propose a guardian can conjure nothing into existence
could argue paracausality is immune to WoU in the same way go beyond is
also technically WoU can't fully kill a guardian unless ||the guardian's ghost tries to chase it|| (part 8 spoilers)
small quartz
I ment like WOY unless we propose a guardian can conjure nothing into existence
Hey ive had this discussion before
Uh WoU Can't affect guardians
I assume
Due to their Paracausality
Requiem would work against a guardian
small quartz
> Jojo alone has such bullshit it directly counters our Guardian with at least t...
Love Train
empty fern
No
little gorge
love train is purely defensive
small quartz
Yeah
so a guardian cant hit it
Also
wanna know whats fucked up
Due to all Pre Golden Age info being lost
Guardians will not know the peak of uhhh
like
Pink
empty fern
Floyd?
median steeple
Not really lore, but does anyone know exactly or roughly when Destiny was first conceptualized? I know thereās a Destiny awaits poster in ODST back in 2009. But does anyone know if they had plans for the game since maybe 2007 or 2008 possibly?
small quartz
Development Began in 2010
It USED to be named "Project Tiger"
or that was its codename
median steeple
Iām more so talking about pre development if that makes any sense
Like more of the spitballing phase
small quartz
I think in 2009
median steeple
Alright
small quartz
After their Split from Microsoft in '07 they discussed how they wanted a new IP
median steeple
So 07 was the idea of a new ip then
small quartz
Yeah
"The press release from Bungie states, "It is also the intent of both parties to expand their partnership to include new IP created and owned by Bungie.""
median steeple
Thatās actually insane to think about
Obviously destiny wasnāt a thing in 07 but itās crazy to think that the idea of a new game that would eventually become Destiny was present nearly 17 years ago
small quartz
I think Destiny being even like
In Development for 7 Years is kinda great
Combining Non Active/Active Development
It's awesome to see how it all ended up
median steeple
Yea
median steeple
The main reason I wanted to know is cause I just found out about the !letting go YouTube video
blazing wasp
The main reason I wanted to know is cause I just found out about the !letting go...
Fun fact regarding that, it's not actually anything canon or any significance to lore
While it is made by someone either a dev or inside information, it is also technically a fan animation
median steeple
Yea i get that but considering it so closely represents some things in game currently and also the fact it was made 2 whole years before destiny was officially announced it makes you think thereās more to it
The video literally has black armory symbols
7 years before black armory would release
Also I get the exo from the video is a reused asset from another game but perhaps it was just a placeholder for what Rasputin would be
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median steeple
Thatās the edited version of the photo
ember storm
Shocking how someone with insider info can make something with official assets before theyāre used properly
trim grotto
I can tell it's edited, because that's the Marathon logo.
ember storm
Yeah I can probably guess a video from 10 years ago didnāt have a screencap of the witness
blazing wasp
The video literally has black armory symbols
Because the creator had inside information
blazing wasp
That rasputin model was not even conceived of in d2 y1
empty fern
We can ask the devs later,
blazing wasp
so its likely just "random exo lmao"
empty fern
so its likely just "random exo lmao"
Remember the uhhh, image of a bloodied exo sitting by a wall?
blazing wasp
i do not
blazing wasp
https://images.app.goo.gl/CdmEzu757wwnvAAx6
o yea
empty fern
ember storm
Hell of an underbite on that guy
thorny glade
Destiny 2's lore is so vast. Very shocking most games don't put anywhere near as much effort in their lore as destiny 2 does.
sleek matrix
Destiny 2's lore is so vast. Very shocking most games don't put anywhere near as...
Because it doesn't sell
The average player skips cutscenes in most games
thorny glade
I was watching a destiny 2 lore video to get knowledge on the game's lore then I watched a bunch of cutscenes on youtube. When I first played I'll admit I didn't know what the heck was going on
trim grotto
I was watching a destiny 2 lore video to get knowledge on the game's lore then I...
Aye, it does go quite deep.
trim grotto
The Destiny Wiki is even more cursed than Destinypedia but let's hear it
trim grotto
Joe Biden, along with Lord Shaxx and Lord Saladin, were all present at the Battle of Twilight Gap, which Joe Biden was treated as a hero of. well whaddaya know
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Is the Zavala lore on Destiny Wiki canon
Yes
little gorge
Joe Biden is the current Titan Vanguard of the Tower. He is a leader with a will of iron and works tirelessly to keep the people of the City safe. He was partnered with the Ghost Targe.
At least they know Targe died
small quartz
Destiny 2 Sad Lore Fact: No Guardian has ever heard a Weezer song
covert stone
Oo ee oo I look just like Cayde 6
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Destiny 2 Sad Lore Fact: No Guardian has ever heard a Weezer song
They might have
Who knows whatās survived the Collapse
AC/DC apparently did
small quartz
Wait fr???
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Wait fr???
But first: ACD stands for Active Contact Defense. It is not an AC-DC Feedback Fence and it is not named for any work of pre-classical music.
small quartz
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desert tree
weird thing, but I just realised I have no understanding of what happened to Sagira that caused her to die. what exactly happened to her?
cinder geode
weird thing, but I just realised I have no understanding of what happened to Sag...
Got attacked by xivu's high celebrant
desert tree
did we ever see this happen or get revenge on the Celebrant, or was this one of those things that just "happened" and we don't see or learn about it until later like it's not a big deal
cinder geode
The while point of season of the hunt was to hunt down wrathborn including the high celebrant
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weird thing, but I just realised I have no understanding of what happened to Sag...
Iirc she sacrificed herself to protect Osiris
As Xivuās forces cornered him deep in the moon
After Osiris had like wiped out the rest of Oryxās bloodline
ember storm
I choose you @night rock
valid sun
bro picked from his quick access wheel 
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bro picked from his quick access wheel <a:HOLYSHITWTF:901138423836966922>
Their
valid sun
apologies
empty pebble
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@jagged badge u sad for sitting in this chat all day
pattin up
my child
am the witness u the crota
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empty pebble
its my off day i have a job unlike u
empty pebble
nah
night rock
I choose you <@274786900072595456>
ember storm
<:ritzzc1Guh:1133489035856318485>
Check the logs itāll be a real shocker
night rock
we good
empty pebble
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night rock
move along
true knot
also hi nbk
cinder geode
its my off day i have a job unlike u
So you decided to waste that time being hostile in a discord channel
empty pebble
yeah
valid sun
did we ever get any lore about how rhulk became a disciple?
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So you decided to waste that time being hostile in a discord channel
Move along, donāt bother engaging
stuck depot
Stop giving this guy attention
empty pebble
nah do it
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did we ever get any lore about how rhulk became a disciple?
Pretty sure thatās the entire point of the Vow lore book
twin fjord
id win
cinder geode
did we ever get any lore about how rhulk became a disciple?
Check byfs 10 hour
valid sun
i will
empty pebble
i own u all
heavy vortex
You talk too much not gonna lie
dense pikeBOT
willy1669 muted.
cinder geode
willy1669 muted.
Thanks sepiks
ember storm
did we ever get any lore about how rhulk became a disciple?
Itās basically the only thing he ever talked about
midnight nebula
Thanks ven, was getting crazy thanks to this yapper
ember storm
Also question
valid sun
all i remember hearing about is how the witness approached him in some way no?
ember storm
Do we agree that Savathunās little fight in the Queens mission was just her genuine strength?
valid sun
i never got any specifics
ember storm
Like the WQ fight only lasted that long because she had a bunch of hexes going on
trim grotto
And the Wellspring.
ember storm
What if I drop a lighteater ogre into the wellspring
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Nom nom nom
dim minnow
Lore question why do some taken become red
could be an indicator of strength/free will said Taken has
then again, Primevals are some of the oldest Taken there are, and they're fully Taken
cold onyx
Summarize the most important plot points from the dark age and city age
empty fern
Warlords (dark age)
Iron lords
We did everything we did in d1
dim minnow
Summarize the most important plot points from the dark age and city age
Dark Age: In the wake of the Collapse, humanity had regressed and Ghosts had begun ressurecting people as Risen. Many of these RIsen would become feudal Warlords who fought for territory and often ruled it with an iron fist oppressing the Lightless. Eventually, a group called the Iron Lords rose against them to protect the Lightless. After much fighting, humanity would start to unite and gather under the Traveler in an encampment that would develop into the Last City. The Warlords would also be either killed off or abandoned their status. Important to note that it was during this era where Awoken began arriving on Earth.
this is pretty much the basic summary of the Dark Age
City Age I feel I could not give a quick rundown of it
a lot of relevant stuff happened during the City Age
small quartz
Can I eat a ghost
trim grotto
It's made of metal and glass.
small quartz
It's made of metal and glass.
thats not a no
dim minnow
thats not a no
there was an instance in a shitty in-universe fanfiction where we tricked Drifter to eat his
small quartz
there was an instance in a shitty in-universe fanfiction where we tricked Drifte...
... rephrase that please
I didnt understand it
dim minnow
... rephrase that please
at some point, Calus, in his deluded mind, had his scribes record what he believed would happen in the future up to the end of all things
the result was a lore book called the Chronicon
the future Calus claimed to see was so full of innaccuracies and pure bs that it is comedic
and Savathun gave us the pages of this book which I'm certain is the lore reason as to why we no longer associated with him post-Opulence because we saw how crazy that mf was
anyways, at some point in the Chronicon, we invite Drifter to dinner where he eats a lot of food including a special pastry we had made for him
when he finished eating it, we told him it was his own Ghost before forcing more food down his throat until he suffocated to death
that's not even the most stupid thing to happen in the damn book too
let's see, Zavala and Hawthorne drinking "beer of roots" and eating "nuggets of chicken" while contemplating their doom
us killing Eva Levante because she didn't want to organize Calus' shitty hollidays then Shaxx gladly takes her place
us killing Osiris by going to a random Vex Goblin and asking them to divide something by zero or something like that causing the entire Vex Network to collapse allowing us to get to him
us killing Toland by using the song of life to restore his body so we can kill him
it just gets so bonkers man
like what sort of Ahimsa Park Cloud Accretions was he on?
small quartz
like what sort of Ahimsa Park Cloud Accretions was he on?
so... World Greatest Fanfic
empty fern
Fanfic-ception
small quartz
Are there Lore Reasons for Ghosts having Shells?
like Custom Shells
Cuz like, HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS HAPPEN?
is he okay???
dim minnow
Cuz like, HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS HAPPEN?
yeah, it's just a shell
it can be changed around
like hermit crabs
stark fjord
Shells are just fashion statements
Basically
I canāt see it being for protection consideringā¦.
trim grotto
Perhaps you weren't aware of this, but Xivu Arath has lost control of her Throne World, but not her overall power and status as their God of War.
stark fjord
<a:Bot_Sweeper:862819309474283570>
Ur so real thatās why ur my favourite
Want there a frame that went bezerk and killed a ton of cabal or was that a fever dream
cloud gust
Was the Fallen that we were fighting in Misraakās arc in the Final Shape campaign his mother?
cloud gust
Ohhhhhhhh
winter edge
So like
Why dont we just use our Riven wish to just ask for the witness to combust and die?
ember storm
It doesnāt really work like that
Ahamkara materialize desire
Itās not literal wishing
Theyāre not rewriting existence, theyāre just adding small footnotes
Plus the witness was connected to the traveler itself
It literally couldnāt be killed until Salvationās Edge happened and even then it was only possible with 12 ghosts funneling the travelerās light directly into it
pallid dagger
Did zavala and ikora ever learn that cayde was there cuz of crows wish?
tough kettle
Did zavala and ikora ever learn that cayde was there cuz of crows wish?
i believe so
open kite
Hi I'm a returning player going through the campaigns I missed to catch up a bit, just completed witch queen and got the "of queens and worms" quest. Ikora said it helps me prepare for the witness or something, is it just another exotic quest or does it have relevant events for the story?
ember storm
Itās not specially relevant
You learn a bit more about Savathun and her past and get development for Mara
open kite
oh ok just wanted to know if it adds anything no matter how small
do you happen to know approximately how long it takes?
didn t manage to find that on google either
ember storm
shouldnāt be more than an hour or so
open kite
great,ty
rich veldt
Why dont we just use our Riven wish to just ask for the witness to combust and d...
to add to the points waltz made against this, theres also the monkey paw affect of ahamkara wishes, so even in the theoretical world you could wish this, the monkey paw effect would probably be devastating
blazing wasp
I wish for the witness to die
Granted, in 16 billion years the witness will temporarily suffer a heart attack, and revive itself with a defibrillator. During its death everything experiences tremendous suffering beyond comprehension
jovial nimbus
yo can we get a lore recap from the very beginning until rn
sick yew
That does exactly that
blazing wasp
Gimme a sec
jovial nimbus
i am actually invested bruh d2 lore goes HARD.
sick yew
Agreed
jovial nimbus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzBmOeYmN_M
ight see you all in 10 hours 1 minute 11 second and an extra 30 minutes for the overthinking post watching
blazing wasp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzBmOeYmN_M
10 hours and it covers only the fucking basics and essentials of the known chronological timeline as of season of the wish
jovial nimbus
ty
blazing wasp
It even skips over some parts for the sake of time
Like the Leviathan the sisters met
sick yew
I mean Destiny lore is pretty broad
A full everything video would be three times as long if not more
sick yew
He only goes over the main sort of story in those 10 hours ye?
None of the smaller side stories like Dredgen Yor or whatever
blazing wasp
"this lore is so fucking vast you gotta spend almost half a day explaining the main story chronologically"
Said lore being fucking fire
It's exceptionally rare for anything to also be able to make that claim
Let alone support it
jovial nimbus
destiny 2 gets a movie when
trim grotto
what's the lore today, friends
blazing wasp
what's the lore today, friends
Monday, which sounds like moonday, and the moon was often associated with madness (hence the word Lunatic), we can thus conclude Monday fucking sucks
That's the lore of today, because today is Monday
sick yew
destiny 2 gets a movie when
What would that even be about
Theres so much to choose from
Years ago I remember people liking the idea of a show that takes place around the great hunt
jovial nimbus
aye d2 lore is like crazy huge and vast. its own universe
it would be crazy if it gets tons of movies just timeline based
jovial nimbus
Years ago I remember people liking the idea of a show that takes place around th...
hell yeah that sounds crazy
sick yew
I personally also really liked the idea of turning the lorebook of the K1 Crew on the Moon into a sort of horror show
Really good read I definitely recommend
trim grotto
I like the idea of the Dark Ages because you can create a totally fresh set of characters, no ties.
sick yew
I mean tbh they could do that with basically any point in the story
Theres so much shit happening in the system no matter when
You could always introduce some new guardians and have them in a little self contained story
blazing wasp
Like a love murder robots thing but with destiny characters, new and established
sick yew
You mean love, death and robots?
dim minnow
Like a love murder robots thing but with destiny characters, new and established
to be specific, you are referring to an anthology
as in a series that is a collection of separate stories
blazing wasp
to be specific, you are referring to an anthology
Ah
blazing wasp
You mean love, death and robots?
Yeah that
blazing wasp
Ah
I figured if we get a destiny show, it might be difficult to make some stories without potential retcons or have it tie in with the story well
But of it's a anthology that might make it easier to go a bit more loose
stark fjord
How many alone in the dark in there
blazing wasp
How many alone in the dark in there
Infinite, it never stops
But after 6 all cysts are unlocked
stark fjord
Uh how many for to unlock the savathun thing
blazing wasp
Uh how many for to unlock the savathun thing
Oh the dual destiny?
stark fjord
SORRY
blazing wasp
Zero
sick yew
So we know that the Pale Heart is constructed out of the memories of those who enter it
Do we have any clue what it looked like before we or the Witness went there?
blazing wasp
Probably nothing.
sick yew
So the Travelers memories dont affect the pale heart?
blazing wasp
Probably only ever even gained a physical state due to the witness
blazing wasp
So the Travelers memories dont affect the pale heart?
Probably do, but I don't think it had physical form
Not until the witness came along
sick yew
Hm
I still hope one of these days theyll explain what exactly the Traveler is physically
I know this is just concept art but thats the design of those traveler collectibles from the Pale Hart
And it gives us arguably the best look at whats beneath the shell
It does seem very much like machienery
blazing wasp
Yeah
sick yew
Its so weird cause nothing else regarading the Traveler reflects this fact
sick yew
https://tenor.com/view/death-star-spin-star-wars-loop-death-star-plans-gif-20589...
Dark Future where the Traveler gets imprisoned and used as a weapon
empty fern
Dark Future where the Traveler gets imprisoned and used as a weapon
This is what the witness saw 
sick yew
empty fern
But yea, traveler being mechanical and alien, like an artificial garden 
sick yew
Its even more confusing when it turns out that Unveiling wasnt a load of horseshit after all
sick yew
what if the Witness had given itself a ghost
It had the theoretical power to do so no?
Or would they have had to make a ghost for each of the untold number of voices within them
empty fern
Would say the ghost would refuse but, immaru?
sick yew
I mean could have just made ghosts that dont have the will to choose
empty fern
Also would the witness accept the light?
sick yew
They actively use it for the final shape so yeah why not
empty fern
Oh wait, can the witness make a ghost?
empty fern
Savathun had to convince a bunch for her brood, I donāt think so
sick yew
Yeah but the Witness had power to just do it no?
sick yew
Im trying to think why they couldnt
Maybe they didnt have enough time
Id say a Ghost is a rather complicated thing
But then again the Witness had been chilling in the pale heart since Lightfall
hm
ember storm
As an extra contingency could they have made a ghost for themselves
The witness wasnāt properly āaliveā to begin with
sick yew
hm?
ember storm
Itās not a dead person that can be resurrected
A ghost has to have a corpse it can link to
You canāt make any facsimile
sick yew
Not like with ultimate power they could have just yk changed the rules lol
ember storm
All it did was mix darkness into the heart of the traveler and effectively try to ratatouille it
It didnāt have proper control over the light itself
sick yew
Well it had enough to start initiating the final shape lo
Sure first attempt didnt work
Actually
Why didnt the first attempt work
Did the Traveler resist?
ember storm
The traveler was resisting every time that big cry is heard
The witness didnāt have control over light, it was literally a tumor in the travelerās brain
I say āRatatouille itā in the most literal sense
sick yew
Then how could it start carving away and make new structures? In order to create new stuff you need both light and dark no?
create/destroy
ember storm
Then how could it start carving away and make new structures? In order to create...
what structures
sick yew
Darkness for the idea
Light to manifest
sick yew
what structures
Like the monolith
ember storm
The monolith was just formed out of the pyramid ships that it brought
sick yew
Aka the transformed Tree of Silver Wings
ember storm
You know at the end of LF
sick yew
oh yeah it did that
Yeye
So it just parked the thing there and changed it into the spire/monolith
ember storm
Basically just made a new Lego set
sick yew
But the carvings? Splitting the world apart and shit
Shouldnt that only be possible with both Light and Darkness
ember storm
It had control over the traveler itself, not light as a whole
It used the travelerās power of creation and mixed it with darkness
If the witness had total control over the light itself we just wouldnāt have any of our power
It would just self destruct our ghosts like the traveler can
sick yew
hm
ember storm
You know when Rhulk tried to steal a ghost, the traveler possessed and exploded it to tell him to fuck off
The traveler can just do that
ember storm
Well I probably shouldāve mentioned the part where the ākidnappingā was Rhulk plucking it out of the air and taking it apart piece by piece because he wanted to pull a Ghaul
The ghost was already going to die
sick yew
So all the shit we did in Season of the Risen could have been avoided had the Traveler locked in?
empty fern
Free wall
ember storm
It hoped the hive would be getting a new lease on life after the witness and worm gods stole it away from them
And itās sort of worked out, tbh
Luzaku is proof that there can be defectors
sick yew
Im more on about all the Guardians that got killed and got their light sucked out and stored in batteries for whatever deranged shit they wanted to pull
ember storm
Years of killing hive Lightbearers doesnāt really mean anything, the same thing happened with Warlords
ember storm
Im more on about all the Guardians that got killed and got their light sucked ou...
The light was stolen from the guardians themselves and their ghosts were just killed
Traveler canāt do anything about that
sick yew
Blow up the Ghosts of those Lucent hive
ember storm
See my above point
sick yew
Years of killing hive Lightbearers doesnāt really mean anything, the same thing ...
Could have retaliated against the Warlords too
ember storm
Again thatās literally my point
If the traveler said āwell this was a dead end all of you dieā guardians literally just wouldnāt exist
sick yew
Then what makes the Traveler say its okay to pull shit if you are one of my chosen but Rhulk? Nah man thats where I draw the line
empty fern
Ghost stories and that one ghost leaving
ember storm
Then what makes the Traveler say its okay to pull shit if you are one of my chos...
Rhulk was actively killing the ghost.
The Traveler mercy killed to prevent him from scrapping it for parts.
sick yew
Guardians also did that
Again why is a lightbearer permitted to do evil shit but others not
empty fern
Game
sick yew
I mean in lore lol
ember storm
Guardians also did that
Again why is a lightbearer permitted to do evil shit bu...
When
empty fern
Felwinter right? (If guardian is used vague)
ember storm
To reiterate, Rhulk was literally trying to pull a Ghaul
He was never chosen
He was actively killing a ghost to steal the light
Before the ghost was taken apart to be studied, the Traveler detonated the shell to leave no remains
It told Rhulk directly āthis is not for youā
sick yew
There have also been guardians who meddled with their ghosts no? Drifter for example or that other guy who was like old d1 lore, Spider probably also tried his luck a few times
ember storm
Rhulk had no capacity to be chosen
empty fern
Rhulk pullled an early savathun
ember storm
He was not being given the light
ember storm
There have also been guardians who meddled with their ghosts no? Drifter for exa...
Thatās not modification
He was literally taking it apart piece by piece
He was killing it
He wanted to take the light directly out of it for himself
He says the exact phrase āI have worth beyond worthā
sick yew
So traveler gets mad if you try to get the light when you aint chosen by it
ember storm
So traveler gets mad if you try to get the light when you aint chosen by it
To reiterate: see Ghaul
āYou do see meā second before being ripped apart by rays of light
cloud gust
There have also been guardians who meddled with their ghosts no? Drifter for exa...
Asher technically too
sick yew
Not really no?
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sick yew
Ashers Ghost just got corrupted by Radiolaria and never talked to the bro again
cloud gust
Ashers Ghost just got corrupted by Radiolaria and never talked to the bro again
Oh I thought he had to fix his ghost with Vex parts
dense pikeBOT
!ban <user> <reason>
Permanently bans a user from the server.
Step over here please other me
ember storm
Force them to name change
cloud gust
Nuh uh
ember storm
You shall now be known as
sick yew
wdym force them I can just change it myself
sick yew
Oh I thought he had to fix his ghost with Vex parts
Nah
Similar to Asher it took a partial dip in the Radiolaria
ember storm
What happened to Asherās fireteam again
sick yew
Vex
ember storm
Did they get dunked or just leave
cloud gust
What happened to Asherās fireteam again
Exploded
sick yew
Pretty sure one died and the other also never talked to him again
ember storm
Asher mentions just not making contact with them after he recovered I think
sick yew
Just like with his Ghost yeah
cloud gust
At least one of them got blown to pieces by a Fanatic
sick yew
Yes
ember storm
Well his ghost was incapable of talking
It just stared
He had no idea if it even functioned as a ghost anymore
sick yew
But he couldnt bring himself to mercy kill it
ember storm
He was too scared to try self destructing in an attempt to fix his condition, and also too afraid to put the ghost out of its misery
sick yew
Yeah he wasnt sure what he'd come back as
Mf could have become the first Vex lightbearer for all we know
cloud gust
And this began his deep hatred for the Vex
sick yew
nah he was always interested in them
He just hated uuuh
the mind that was chilling inside the pyramideon
sick yew
Yes that guy
But yeah Ashers interest in the Vex never faded
Bro literally walked his ass into their network at the end of Arrivals
ember storm
Well he was moments away from dying/converting into a vex frame
It was actively turning his lungs to metal
sick yew
Was that mentioned really?
ember storm
He just bit the bullet and managed to integrate into the network, at least for a while
ember storm
at the very least he was coughing up blood with no actual injuries
empty fern
Mice racks later confirms Ashir can no longer be heard in the network 
cloud gust
Good ol Asher
sick yew
his last words were literally calling us dumb children
Hates everything and everyone
Gets his ass kicked in the Pyramideon
Hates everyone even more
Digitalizes himself
Still hates people
Helps us once
Calls us dumb regardless
Refuses to elaborate further
Deletes himself
Was there ever a bigger hater
ember storm
Rasputin or oryx maybe
sick yew
Iron Lords fair
Traveler not so much towards the end
Bro came around
And tbf the Traveler did steal his son
Id be pretty mad too
ember storm
Who did Rasputin hate?
Killed like a thousand people just for his bastard son
then also killed said son
sick yew
Thousand? Oh right there were like a shit ton of Iron Lords
I always forget cause we only ever hear of like 5
ember storm
Every single iron lord aside from Saladin and efrideet was killed by Rasputin
sick yew
Yeah idk to me Iron Lords were like a small gang of fellas
sick yew
then also killed said son
Understandable
Taniks was a pretty big hater
Bro hated the concept of death so much he just said nah every time
ember storm
He wasnāt really a hater he was just pissed all the time
He kept being brought back and then killed like five minutes later
sick yew
He wasnāt really a hater he was just pissed all the time
Haters tend to do that
ember storm
Fikrul had actual motivation and was driven
sick yew
Mf was so pissed he jumped out of the coffin and started punching shit
ember storm
Taniks just went āoh not these fucks againā and then activated nuclear descent
cloud gust
Iām sure Taniks was just fucking around with the terminal in Rapture enough that the AI got pissed and decided to destroy the moon
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And Deep Stone Lullaby always gets interrupted by my teammates dying
sick yew
Can barely hear his āclever little ratsā speech
Turn up the volume lol
cloud gust
I was about to say lol
Turn down the sound effects
sick yew
Iām sure Taniks was just fucking around with the terminal in Rapture enough that...
he already initiated it post Atraks fight
Idk why he waited so long since the Fallen had already swarmed the station at that point
cloud gust
So he could start yapping about Clarity
sick yew
Waits till we step foot on the station till he goes "oh noooo my space ship is compromised!!!!11!! better nuke the entire fucking planet"
actually wait
Nvm im stupid
The Ai activated when we fucked up the Security system
cloud gust
Decides to nuke the station
Gets mad when it gets destroyed
sick yew
The Ai activated when we fucked up the Security system
The Fallen simply went around it but we destroyed it triggering the Ai to wake up
ember storm
The station was armed with nuclear warheads and meant to destroy the entirety of Europa when it crashed
It was by design
cloud gust
I think the Fallen modified it so that itād kill is
sick yew
No
ember storm
It was Clovisā own protocol
cloud gust
No I mean the Security System
ember storm
It was literally called Nuclear Descent Protocol
sick yew
Clovis had always planted those nukes so he could emergency destroy Europa cause aint no way anyone gets their hands on HIS research but him
ember storm
The security system is already designed to kill you
And the failsafe is destroying the entirety of Europa
sick yew
Yeah thats the sort of shit Clovis would pull
Dude didnt give a fuck about human life besides his own
ember storm
Remember that standard procedure for basic employed guards is to shoot on sight
Even when the intruder is very clearly a child
the only reason Micah didnāt die was Cayde fumbling with his gun
sick yew
In the name of progressā¢ļø
Something something fountain of youth something something Clarity yap yap yap fire the missile now
cloud gust
āBefore the events of the War of Salvation, House of Salvation would uncover and occupy the Crypt, securing and repurposing the systems and tech inside, the Crypt Security systems includedā
This may just be an assumption
sick yew
Wait wait wait
ember storm
Youāre reading Destinypedia which is not accurate
sick yew
I was gonna say
ember storm
Crypt security is actually just designed to kill you
Clovis activates the moment itās disabled
sick yew
Also pretty sure pre DSC no one neither the fallen nor us had set foot in the actual crypt
Its still unclear whether anyone went in there post DSC
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cloud gust
Also pretty sure pre DSC no one neither the fallen nor us had set foot in the ac...
Eramis told Atraks to go to the Crypt and prepare the body
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Also pretty sure pre DSC no one neither the fallen nor us had set foot in the ac...
The biggest point of the crypt is Clarity
We basically went into the lobby but then left for the morning star space station
sick yew
What I thought the whole point is that the Crypt isnt anywhere we actually set foot in
sick yew
ember storm
The only parts actually inside are walking past clarity and the bottom floor of Atraks
Security encounter is getting past the very complicated door
The actual DSC honestly isnāt incredibly important beyond an absolute abundance of advanced exo tech
sick yew
Ok so Encounter 1 and half of encounter 2 are actually in the crypt ye?
ember storm
Itās not like some big citadel
The main thing Clovis wanted to keep from everyone was Clarity
He was so protective heād rather destroy the entirety of Europa than let an intruder leave even with the knowledge of it
sick yew
To my knowledge the crypt proper was further down and we didn't actually go there or anyone else for that matter
cloud gust
Iām sure the only reason they went there was
- Atraks to Atraks-1 pipeline
- They had the equipment needed to bring back Taniks
ember storm
Eramis wanted to put her whole army into exo frames
empty fern
More arms and legs
ember storm
Atraks was rough but she was the prime example
empty fern
Itāll be aksis all over again
sick yew
Wouldnt that just cause DER
ember storm
It worked and wouldāve been really bad
cloud gust
Elsie just said āarmy of darknessā
Nothing else was elaborated upon
ember storm
Clarity was also a new prime source of darkness that wasnāt just cruxes shitting out some stasis prisms
sick yew
Shouldnt Eliksni Exo have the same kind of issues that human Exo have
ember storm
Shouldnt Eliksni Exo have the same kind of issues that human Exo have
Yes thatās the point of the Mask of Bakris tab
sick yew
Then why would you start converting Eliksni into Exo
Cant modify them for shit
cloud gust
Atraks had is so bad that she had to rip her old face off just to cope
empty fern
Clarity subclass when
ember storm
Atraks has to convince herself that her old corpse is an imposter and āunmasksā it by tearing the flesh off her own skull
sick yew
Ik ive read that tab
cloud gust
Atraks has to convince herself that her old corpse is an imposter and āunmasksā ...
when the voices make a bet that I canāt rip my skin off
sick yew
You can just upgrade exos with more technology
As long as its not anything body related*
empty fern
Upgrade? Technology?
sick yew
More arms or eyes or legs or whatever
empty fern
sick yew
When you think about it being an Exo really aint that great
cloud gust
I always thought the plan was go to Clarity and get more Stasis
sick yew
When you think about it being an Exo really aint that great
What benefit do you event get, besides a more than usual durable body
That you cant use to its fullest extend cause if you perform any task that goes too far beyond what flesh could do you just go insane and gotta reset your brain
ember storm
Eh not really
sick yew
Imagine using your sick steel legs to kick in a heavy door and your brain just goes "wait hang on a fucking minute this aint right I shouldnt be able to do this wtf" and then just dies
ember storm
Itās not like an automatic āoh Iām made of metal now I dieā
That was mainly an issue with the earliest models
Thereās some leeway
Adaās mouth literally doesnāt even move
She just has a speaker
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And thatās assuming they donāt go insane and rip their bodies apart
iirc thatās what happened to Alton
sick yew
If you were to throw an exo to the bottom of the ocean theyre still gonna die cause at some point they realize they dont need to breathe which'll cause DER
ember storm
iirc thatās what happened to Alton
Alton was never an exo
cloud gust
I swear he was?
ember storm
He was just shuffled off to the sidelines because Clovis literally did not care about him
sick yew
Adaās mouth literally doesnāt even move
Good question actually
Without a mouth she doesnt eat or drink which afaik is needed to continue the brains delusion
ember storm
Because quote āwomen are easier to controlā, so he didnāt want Alton around
pastel trench
I know a weird lore type of question but can guardians reproduce/ get children?
ember storm
I know a weird lore type of question but can guardians reproduce/ get children?
no
They can adopt as seen with Zavala
sick yew
Its never been mentined and or explored
cloud gust
I thought someone in the bray family went crazy when they became an exo
pastel trench
I thought someone in the bray family went crazy when they became an exo
I donāt think exos can get children
ember storm
The closest we have to confirmation is Saladinās ghost telling him directly āyou will never have childrenā
sick yew
I donāt think exos can get children
They cant
sick yew
The closest we have to confirmation is Saladinās ghost telling him directly āyou...
Which tbh could be more about his personality/line of work
pastel trench
The closest we have to confirmation is Saladinās ghost telling him directly āyou...
Is there any context to why the ghost said it
cloud gust
I donāt think exos can get children
Well obviously itād be after he had children
sick yew
Is there any context to why the ghost said it
Basically we dont know and it doesnt seem like Bungie ever wants to explore it for well obvious reasons
sick yew
Dread?
pastel trench
Are just enhanced types of enemies we saw
sick yew
Yeah
pastel trench
Like psions
empty fern
Some
cloud gust
Only the Weavers and Attendants
empty fern
It does include species weāve never seen
sick yew
Witness did some funky stuff and merged shit around a bunch
pastel trench
Werenāt tormentors like nezarec clones
sick yew
Werenāt tormentors like nezarec clones
I think I recall something along those lines but I dont remember
cloud gust
Subjugators are clones of Rhulk but no tnearly as powerful as him
sick yew
Theyre still pretty cool tho
empty fern
Forget the living witness stuff, it made some weird statues
sick yew
I wonder if there has been any progress regarding their language
empty fern
I wonder if there has been any progress regarding their language
Any update in cryptarchy?
pastel trench
Because my question is. I recall to have read something like that tormentors are clones of nezarec but also that nezarec was something like a clone of rhulk i donāt remember.
cloud gust
I had wondered that a few times
Like how we are supposed to translate them
pastel trench
What exactly
ember storm
Rhulk was only powerful because of Upended shit
sick yew
Any update in cryptarchy?
got no clue I just remember that Bungie said their language is translatable and that was that
pastel trench
got no clue I just remember that Bungie said their language is translatable and ...
The tormentor language?
empty fern
Watch it be a hoax and we make the language for them
ember storm
Because my question is. I recall to have read something like that tormentors are...
Nezarec was just based on Rhulk in job
empty fern
The tormentor language?
Yea the dread people
sick yew
I had wondered that a few times
Like how we are supposed to translate them
In Byfs raid stream he gave an possibility
Basically theres a loretab that states that it is a text that has been translated from somewhere inside the pale heart
maybe if that original text can be found ingame we can reverse translate it and thatll be a good lead
ember storm
Rhulk fucked up his work and got sent to babysitting duty
So the Witness basically appointed Nez as āhead discipleā and sent him to lead the charge on sol
And he then got himself killed
empty fern
Rhulk fucked up his work and got sent to babysitting duty
Imagine 2 pyramids on the moon
cloud gust
We need more Nezarec lore :(
ember storm
So the witness went a different direction with Calus and just used him as a distraction
pastel trench
Imagine 2 pyramids on the moon <:CATGRIN:1131309100114919434>
Imagine the moon being a big pyramid
sick yew
Watch it be a hoax and we make the language for them
I doubt Bungie would pull that
I should maybe check in Raid Secrets if anyone got something on that whole language thing
Sounds like their kind of thing
pastel trench
do we have any list of all species that gotādevouredā by the witness and made them a part of him or smth
sick yew
Havent been in that place in ages now that I think of it
sick yew
do we have any list of all species that gotādevouredā by the witness and made th...
Untold thousands probably
ember storm
do we have any list of all species that gotādevouredā by the witness and made th...
Thatās not really how it worked
pastel trench
Sounds like their kind of thing
They maybe found a way to beat the witness toes but not to decrypt a language
sick yew
?
ember storm
The witness just conquered civilizations and only kept knowledge/experience from outliers
pastel trench
Thatās not really how it worked
I remember 3 got mentioned alr somewhere in lore tabs
empty fern
We have dread names
And thatās it
Ghost just says āa previous conquered speciesā
ember storm
The flying ones are completely new
empty fern
Just the flying ones?
sick yew
Considering that the Witness has been chasing the Traveler for a shit ass long time there are probably a lot
ember storm
Some old species the witness destroyed/conquered
empty fern
Oh are the other ones acolytes?
ember storm
The rest are all things weāve seen
ember storm
Husks are never directly mentioned but theyāre pretty clearly hive
empty fern
Yea should be
ember storm
They have the acolyte grenade animation and their little soul thing looks like a worm infected with resonance
Actually they might just be worms puppeting hive corpses
cloud gust
Ok so I looked it up and I got Clovis Bray II and Alton Bray mixed up
Clovis Bray II became an Exo and got so disassociated that he ripped his body apart
empty fern
sick yew
Actually they might just be worms puppeting hive corpses
Pretty sure thats the implication
Since they just fall down like empty husks once the worm thingy exits
ember storm
Yeah I think the FS vidoc said something about pilots
sick yew
kind of the same thing
blazing wasp
Holy shit dread Titanfall
sick yew
rapid mica
Lore
dim minnow
Is mara sov having a baby
Who tf told you that?
rapid mica
Iām guessing
Educated
Half of lore is guessing anyways
So thereās like a 10% chance Iām right
dim minnow
No, it's a 0%
empty fern
Real
small quartz
why do people like Mara
echo musk
bad as hell
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why do people like Mara
Sheās a complex and fascinating character
small quartz
duality of humanity
analog torrent
Where's the loretab that says Ana's goldie shots are still burning? Classidied 62 says they left pools of light but not that they're burning today
analog torrent
why do people like Mara
Read Marasenna
echo musk
duality of humanity
LMAO
fresh zephyr
I have a few questions:
-
What exactly is the Witness?
-
Does the Darkness prefer the Witness over the Guardian, what does it want?
-
If the Witness is empowered by Darkness, why does the Darkness also empower us to destroy it? (When we embrace it to destroy the statues.)
ember storm
I have a few questions:
1. What exactly is the Witness?
2. Does the Darkness p...
The witness is the result of an ancient civilization using darkness to meld into one being for the sake of their idea of āpurposeā
They though the traveler and the light brought pointless chaos and suffering to the universe
Darkness is just a power, it doesnāt act, people use it for what they want
āEmbracing darknessā was just tapping into the primordial darkness linked to the statues so we could destroy the statues
fresh zephyr
Darkness is just a power, it doesnāt act, people use it for what they want
So the Traveler is a being that uses the light?
ember storm
The traveler creates light
fresh zephyr
When was it created?
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When was it created?
Unknown
The earliest recorded history of the Traveler is when the Witnessā people found it buried on their homeworld
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Is there an entity that creates darkness?
The Veil is the Travelerās counterpart
fresh zephyr
The Veil is the Travelerās counterpart
Is the Veil responsible for giving us the darkness powers? Or did we just find it on our own?
ember storm
The witness tried to give us stasis as a kind of manipulation
We discovered the power of strand on our own
small quartz
I have a few questions:
1. What exactly is the Witness?
2. Does the Darkness p...
The Witness is like... an entire civilisation put into one mf
fresh zephyr
The Witness is like... an entire civilisation put into one mf
do all the people in the civilisation look like the witness?
blazing wasp
Somewhat unknown but as far as we know, no
small quartz
iono...
ember storm
They werenāt giant cloud heads if thatās what youāre wondering
fresh zephyr
They werenāt giant cloud heads if thatās what youāre wondering
did they have the unibrow
and the hands
ember storm
Just two arms and hands
fresh zephyr
oh ok lol
blazing wasp
They were very similar to humans
fresh zephyr
Does the Veil care about humans like the Traveler or nah?
ember storm
Itās debatable whether itās even sentient
cinder geode
Does the Veil care about humans like the Traveler or nah?
I mean it gave us strand and it powers the cloudark
ember storm
But it really hasnāt had any positive events related to it
little gorge
I mean it gave us strand and it powers the cloudark
it didn't give it to us
we found strand
jagged badge
Itās debatable whether itās even sentient
Is it?
ember storm
The veil? Yes
dim minnow
The way Witness and Nezarec refer to it could indicate a degree of sentience
jagged badge
How about the lore tab for the ritual SMG this season?
worldly river
The witness tried to give us stasis as a kind of manipulation
Isn't there some implication that we were actually being taught Stasis by the Dissenters rather than the Witness itself
Or well not implication but, possibility
I feel like the Dissenters call into question any interaction with the veiled statues that isn't made explicitly clear to be the Witness proper
trim grotto
I quite disagree. The Dissenters never put a step out of line until the Pale Heart, and the Black Fleet that opened a line of communication to us on Io - which Savathƻn tried to stop - told us that power awaited on Europa.
ember storm
The veiled statues only represented Dissenters as a force in the pale heart
Every time prior they were utilized by the witness
And also yknow the ghost possession telling us directly that stasis is a āgiftā
small quartz
What guns in destiny actually smell/taste like something
@trim grotto please confirm my crack fueled suspicions
tough kettle
What guns in destiny actually smell/taste like something
they would smell like gun and taste like gun. the ones made of enemies or enemy parts would smell and taste like that
lol
trim grotto
I've been doing lore for years and have never been asked this question
small quartz
they would smell like gun and taste like gun. the ones made of enemies or enemy ...
Hmmm
You sure
small quartz
makes sense, no?
I just doubt it
Like
What if paracausal energy actually tastes like candy corn
Or Dr Pepper
tough kettle
i would think different forms of light or dark would have different tastes
and what about plain kinetic weapons, depending on the weapon it wont taste like paracausal energy
small quartz
Light tastes like Sour Watermelon
ember storm
They taste like funnier jokes
empty fern
Vanilla
small quartz
They taste like funnier jokes
Humor is subjective
ember storm
I was making a joke about taste
ember storm
Justice wins again
small quartz
Justice wins again
No justice lost
ember storm
I decide the truth 
tough kettle
Vanilla
is that from that one quote where the guy says the inside of the traveler smells faintly of vanilla
empty fern
Yes
small quartz
I decide the truth <:Zav:1020160865250578522>
My stand will be the judge
And I stand on the floor
small quartz
is that from that one quote where the guy says the inside of the traveler smells...
Lame
Why canāt the traveller smell like some shitty American deodorant
Like LIQUID TURNPIKE
or DEATH SLICK
tough kettle
Good old Fenchurch
i forgot his name lol
tough kettle
Why canāt the traveller smell like some shitty American deodorant
i think vanilla is fitting, or maybe mint or cilantro. perhaps cinnamon or anise?
small quartz
Liquid Turnpike
tough kettle
nah
broken relic
What happened to Elsieās accent
empty fern
It got frozen
trim grotto
What happened to Elsieās accent
Elsie's got a pretty varied background of culture. Her accent shifts may simply be a byproduct of that. I, for one, fan sympathise with this.
covert stone
The real answer is that her original VA was unavailable/expensive. The headcanon lore answer is that the various time travelling she's done has affected her accent enough that it kinda just changes whenever
empty fern
Source it
jagged badge
The real answer is that her original VA was unavailable/expensive. The headcanon...
Thatās not the case
At least, itās not an explanation for the accent change from Beyond Light - Seraph that people bring up
In D1 the Exo Stranger had a different VA. In Beyond Light she was recast, for whatever reason. In Season of the Seraph she has the same VA as in BL
small quartz
would Nic Cage still be as talented as he currently is Post Ghost Revival
(Do people retain personality traits post revive)
sick yew
would Nic Cage still be as talented as he currently is Post Ghost Revival
Considering your personality is shaped by your experiences id say thats unlikely
small quartz
so world is doomed...
sick yew
Who?
small quartz
Id love for just, Nicholas Cage to just appear in the tower
small quartz
Hes an amazing actor
sick yew
Debatable
small quartz
...
small quartz
sick yew
I never know what to make of him
Hes like Tobey Maguire where he almost always seems just a bit out of place
Anyway lore chat
To me ones personality is not a thing youre born with but something that develops as you grow up based on your experiences and environment
So since Guardians retain no memories their personalities also get wiped in a sense
And they develop anew from then on
small quartz
what abt Shaxxsphere? doesnt that poke holes in that theory
sick yew
What about who?
small quartz
The Theory Shaxx is Shakesphere
sick yew
That is indeed a theory
small quartz
yeah so wouldnt that poke holes in that theory
sick yew
That is indeed a theory
That afaik has no proper evidence
sick yew
yeah so wouldnt that poke holes in that theory
Why did Shakesphere tend to backhand peoples heads off when he lived?
sick yew
But Shaxx is very sane
small quartz
proof
sick yew
Interact with him like once
small quartz
he runs a murder pit which he televises
also how do Motes = Currency
what is the drifters scheme to turn that into money
sick yew
he runs a murder pit which he televises
He plays dodgeball with the city kids
small quartz
lmao
sick yew
what is the drifters scheme to turn that into money
He prob has some kind of deal with the Nine thatd surprise me the least out of all possible explanations
small quartz
The space dust?
sick yew
Ye
I dont think he even hangs out with them anymore
The Nine have been kinda absent from the narrative for a while now
Eversince....30th Anniversary I guess?
Even there they werent really involved
Guess it really has been since Arrivals since they did anything
sick yew
Man im still so sad that they seemingly abandoned Neomuna for future plot stuff
I wish we had gotten a seasonal storyline of Nimbus becoming the new leader type Cloudstrider and having to teach the new rookie
small quartz
Man im still so sad that they seemingly abandoned Neomuna for future plot stuff
Neomuna sucked man...
it was like
the weirdest designed Nothingburger of a city
like, the design alone is so confusing and boring
sick yew
Thats just wrong man
Neomuna was cool as hell
One of my favorite destinations easily
And a million times better than the Throne World
sick yew
It is extremely boring to look at and it feels insanely empty
small quartz
The Architecture alone is better than Anything Neomuna has
sick yew
the swamp style stuff doesnt appeal to me and the other area while neat on first glance is....eh
sick yew
The Architecture alone is better than Anything Neomuna has
I rather take my sci fi city than boring swamp
You know you shouldnt use that term@small quartz
small quartz
why
small quartz
aite
sick yew
Anyway
small quartz
I rather take my sci fi city than boring swamp
Its not even cooly designed
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This doesnāt have to be an argument
sick yew
Eh to each their own
jagged badge
You both have different tastes
small quartz
the coolest designed modern Sci Fi city is Night City, and buddy it aint no night city
sick yew
Cyberpunk is not sci fi its cyberpunk
small quartz
... which is science fiction
stark fjord
hi pookies
stark fjord
Cyberpunk is not sci fi its cyberpunk
doesnt cyberpunk branch off from scifi
sick yew
... which is science fiction
A different subtype
Night City is purposefully not overly futuristic
stark fjord
?
stark fjord
A different subtype
Night City is purposefully not overly futuristic
ultimately is scifi no?
sick yew
yes but a different subtype than what Neomuna is
stark fjord
oh i getcha
sick yew
Star Wars and Cyberpunk are both sci fi but are in almost no ways similar to each other
sick yew
It explores a different type of sci fi
stark fjord
it goes a different path
blazing wasp
Cyberpunk is generally not overly futuristic with a healthy dash of dystopia
sick yew
Exactly
small quartz
Neomunas just lame in design
sick yew
Nah they can voice their opinion
stark fjord
lol
small quartz
Sorry if i dont like grey blocky buildings
sick yew
You dont have to agree but its still their opinion
stark fjord
mb jokes
sick yew
Anyway Europa clears them all anyway
stark fjord
shouldve added /j
small quartz
at least its better than the fuckin moon
sick yew
Simply for the dynamic weather it gets the top spot
stark fjord
just gonna remind yall #šlore-discussion
sick yew
at least its better than the fuckin moon
Yeah we should finally nuke it
Like Clovis said
small quartz
YEAH
sick yew
The only thing he was ever right about
sick yew
small quartz
CONTROLLING THE TIDES OF THE OCEANS
sick yew
The Traveler is in no way large enough to replace the moon
sick yew
The Traveler is in no way large enough to replace the moon
Like its not even close
small quartz
TOGETHER, WE WILL STEAL THE MOON
seriously can we ask the devs to do a moon heist
pleath...
sick yew
No
blazing wasp
https://tenor.com/view/gru-moon-gif-10973131198585528214
Calm down eggman
sick yew
wait did Clovis actually wanna nuke the moon
Yes he told us that idea during season of Seraph
small quartz
Wait hes alive