❓destiny-questions

[small relic]

Is the oneshot golden gun exotic for hunters still viable?

The phoenix helmet somethng.

[waxen ibex]

Nighthawk is always pretty much top of the pack

[drifting plinth]

It got buffed by a lot recently

[drifting plinth]

(for hunters)

[waxen ibex]

It's not always useful but it's been consistently one of the best exotics hunter has

[turbid talon]

Nighthawk's not always been meta but it's never been a bad pick for Hunters since... ah, well, ever. It's always been floating around.

[rancid tundra]

at one point, you could run star eaters and get more dmg than nighthawk

[waxen ibex]

Also nighthawk buffs the shit out of still hunt rn too

[cerulean sail]

it was buffed in season of the wish iirc?

[waxen ibex]

Nighthawk and still hunt both just got buffed like 2 days ago as well

Nighthawk is finally back to almost doing cuirass damage

[drifting plinth]

It really gotta do more

[small relic]

Still don't understand why a titan is doing more damage than a hunter-

Altough I feel like hunter does a lot more damage but it's just harder to pull off.

[turbid talon]

Because Thundercrash puts you out of position and takes significantly longer to accomplish.

[waxen ibex]

Hunter actually. Probably has some of the laziest really strong damage options rn lol

[turbid talon]

It has more total damage but less DPS due to the nature of its travel

[waxen ibex]

Morbius quiver with leviathans breath is currently looking really good

[small relic]

Also a great way to commit kaboom, love diving into crowds and somehow that one crowd happens to have a self destruct mob

[rancid fern]

Well for one, Titans gotta throw themselves at stuff, while Hunters just gotta look towards the enemy.

[small relic]

They're BUILT to throw themselves at stuff.

[turbid talon]

Cuirass does provide an overshield on Super cast last I checked, so there's that.

[waxen ibex]

Morbius quiver is a 220% damage buff to all bows for some reason so crossbows and leviathan both get some big numbers

Fun time

[turbid talon]

I've been away for too long

[livid thunder]

Do orders give XP?

[rancid fern]

It’s just x4 damage resist now

[waxen ibex]

Look at llamas video if you wanna see example BTW

[turbid talon]

Close enough

[waxen ibex]

You can see crossbow go from like 4k to 10k per bolt

I really wanna try hierarchy + crossbow

It probably cooks especially with multiple hierarchys in a group

You're just limited by the moebius quiver timer

[fair elbow]

Will bungie take away the extra silver I got from the silver glitch?

[waxen ibex]

Probably no

[earnest acorn]

where is xur?

[rancid tundra]

Tower

But not yet

I think he comes in at daily reset today, about 10 hours time

[drifting plinth]

In 9:18 to be exact

[earnest acorn]

thank you

[small relic]

Graviton Lance is what's causing the enemies to explode upon killing them right?

[waxen ibex]

Yes

One of the best exotic primaries overall

[small relic]

Huh, funny it doesn't mention that

Just says powerful second shot and I was like "Awesome more damage, but why is shit exploding"

[turbid talon]

Kills with this weapon cause enemy targets to detonate and spawn Void projectiles that track targets.

[small relic]

Whhere.

[turbid talon]

Check the Cosmology perk

[small relic]

So my suspicion could've been cleared up if I just opened my fucking eyes.

[turbid talon]

Exotic weapons typically have two perks, because Bungie like to confuse people. It fuels their vampiric souls.

Take a gander at your other gear just in case you missed those too

[small relic]

You're lucky you're Asian they said, man I'm still dumb as a rock

[livid thunder]

Anyone?

[thorny bronze]

whats the best way to get an exotic order?

[waxen ibex]

You are guaranteed to get one after completing like 4 legendaries

[thorny bronze]

nice

and can I just spam Legendaries at Shuro Chi?

I feel the bar hasnt moved past 50% in like 5mins

[waxen ibex]

Yeah it's better to do activities than to just mindlessly grind bounties

[thorny bronze]

unfortunate

to solo ops I go

[waxen ibex]

Completing any activity gives a large chunk of legendary chance

Afaik

Not 100% on the system yet but that's what I've been told at least

[fast plinth]

havent played the new update, what is the invasion mechanic people are talking about?

[cerulean sail]

some new activities can be invaded by other players, or you can choose to invade a group

[fast plinth]

oh thats sick

thanks

[main flower]

So, who joined who for the fraction's, I joined the totality division because of the walker and the shader, but once all three fraction's are done im joining the tharsis repformation

[cerulean sail]

the fractions? i joined ⅓

[hollow oak]

Please tell me this is a joke. A bug. For special armor. Has now caused bungie to lock the ability to get legit one of the best praxic blade upgrades from being gotten at all?!

[waxen ibex]

The vendor has been reenabled for several hours already shut up

[hollow oak]

Oh thank fucking god

It's the armor still there too?

Or did bungie remove a good thing

[hollow oak]

Also man you have a temper

[turbid talon]

always knew you were edgy

[unkempt yoke]

what is path to tower triumph?

[cerulean sail]

and eager

[waxen ibex]

I have never seen you come to a chat channel to do anything that isn't complaining

[hollow oak]

It was a QUESTION

this is the QUESTION channel

And if you want people to complain less, tell bungie to stop doing stupid shit

[cerulean sail]

blehhhh

:P

[turbid talon]

nexius is turning into a goat

[hollow oak]

🐐

[sudden egret]

Alright, I’ll pass the suggestion along

[hollow oak]

Good man

[sudden egret]

He’s been the goat for years, should have never given up orange

[hollow oak]

A goat not The goat

[sudden egret]

Same same

[hollow oak]

Potato tomato

[leaden hawk]

what does slice do?

[turbid talon]

;data

[solar jasper]

Destiny 2 Informational Spreadsheets
The Destiny 2 Data Compendium • Here's a spreadsheet that contains information on Weapon Perks, Armor Mods, Abilities, and more!

Destiny 2 Damage Stacking Guide • You can check out Court's information spreadsheets, containing guides for Damage Stacking, Combatant Classification, and more!

Destiny 2 Exotic Availability List • This spreadsheet lists all exotics in the game and how to obtain each of them. It also denotes if the exotic is free to play or not as well as some more useful info.

Destiny 2 Monument to Lost Lights Guide • This is a spreadsheet aimed at guiding new players on which exotics to pick from the monument to lost lights.

Destiny 2: Boss Damage • A highly useful spreadsheet with a huge amount of information on the damage of certain abilities, weapons, armour, loadouts etc as well as each boss in the game.

[turbid talon]

Take a gander at the Data Compendium

It's a very handy dandy thing for learning about keyword specifics

[high lily]

hi nexius

[unkempt yoke]

?

[cerulean sail]

hi jongo

[turbid talon]

Do you mean the Path To Power Triumph? You probably haven't claimed your Triumphs on the Triumphs menu page.

Path To Power is about increasing your current Power, hence the name. If you're swapping gear around, you might've been triggering it on and off.

[raw hill]

sorry came back after a long break, can I power grind to max power with the expansion content? (Lawnles frontiner?)

Or I have to do it through the portal

[unkempt yoke]

im pretty sure its path to tower

[waxen ibex]

I think expansion drops power increases but portal will be faster by a lot

Legendary campaign takes you to 370

[turbid talon]

Well, the API is coming up with a result for Path To Power, but not Path To Tower - unless it's brand new and locked behind classification.

[unkempt yoke]

not brand new

also i am locked at 300 power

is that a reason?

[turbid talon]

Path To Power is related to you raising your Power but it is not locking you there.

[unkempt yoke]

well

i am just locked at 300 power

with no increase

nor decrease

everytime i complete smth

it shows path to tower triumph

[turbid talon]

Have you claimed your Triumphs in the Triumphs page?

You can do it all at once from the main icon, if I recall.

[unkempt yoke]

isnt that triumph thing at the journey tab?

yh i claimed thoose

[fathom marten]

Can you post a screenshot of it saying Path to Tower?

[unkempt yoke]

one sec

😭

[turbid talon]

[fathom marten]

So it is Path to Power but you're also just stuck regardless

[unkempt yoke]

oh

power

i am blined istg

[fathom marten]

And changing what you have equipped doesn't fix it?

[unkempt yoke]

blind*

i am locked at 300 power

sooo i dont think so

[unkempt yoke]

lol

[turbid talon]

Path To Power probably keeps popping up because you're changing gear. Keep your highest Power gear on, claim it, and it should stop appearing. Every time you change down Power, it'd be rendered incomplete again until claimed.

As for Power grinding
ask someone else haha i haven't played the new DLC yet

[raw hill]

hmmm, solo Ops?

because I dont have anyone to play with, doing other activity types will be a problem

[fathom marten]

If you have the new DLC, Renegades, the Legendary campaign should forcibly give you at least 370 power gear

[fathom marten]

Solo Ops works but most everything should have matchmaking too

[raw hill]

oh

I though I have to add modifier to get A-RAnk in order to get more light level

and I can't matchmaking if I add modifier

[small relic]

Help me.

[fathom marten]

Also true

?

[small relic]

I wanna play Destiny 2.

But I'm sick

[raw hill]

*pat pat

[small relic]

Worst headache of my life, everytime I cough it hurts and my headache gets worse.

You know what I think an exotic engram will help my issues.

I'll just get up.

[fathom marten]

Consider watching Destiny 2 until you feel better instead

[small relic]

A redbull and a snus will do me just right.

[unkempt yoke]

Nope dont

How do i even go up in power

[fathom marten]

portal

[unkempt yoke]

Since i am new

Mind explaining

What IS portal?

Must be a long explanation wow

[fathom marten]

A detestable thing. Open up your menu like you're going to go to a different planet. At the top there should be a new tab called "portal". In that, there should be a bunch of different icons that sort activities by type (Solo Ops, Fireteam Ops/Strikes but worse, Crucible Ops, etc). Anything in there is considered "portal"

[unkempt yoke]

I see

Well i will finish this free week then check that out

Got no time waste

Also tysm for the explantion

:D

[fathom marten]

You select the type of activity, then you can choose a specific one from there. So for Crucible you choose what flavor of pvp you want, whether that's 6v6, 3v3, whatever. For pve stuff, you can also select modifiers. The goal is to get a higher grade like you're back in 8th grade middle school. The higher the score, the better the loot.

[unkempt yoke]

Back?

Buddy

😭

[fathom marten]

Hm

[unkempt yoke]

What age did u think i was

Is d2 an old fandom or what

[fathom marten]

The State of California has advised I don't answer that

[turbid talon]

Well, it launched in 2017.

[unkempt yoke]

Dam

[fathom marten]

The franchise has existed since 2014, when I was in 8th grade middle school

[turbid talon]

And D1 was 2014.

[unkempt yoke]

Well

[fathom marten]

Anyway

The portal has a lot in it

[unkempt yoke]

Stop putting full stops please :D

[fathom marten]

It's where most of the content is nowadays

[unkempt yoke]

Free right?

[fathom marten]

Yep

[unkempt yoke]

Good

[fathom marten]

Everything in the portal is free

[unkempt yoke]

:D

Well i gotta finish the final shape

Since i need the prismatic options

All of them

ALL

[fathom marten]

It's okay Mael, I like your full stops ❤️

[unkempt yoke]

Lol

I dont

[turbid talon]

Some of the Prismatic Fragments and Aspects and such come from post-campaign content, by the way. While some will come naturally, some are rather a lot more esoteric to acquire, so a guide could be a good idea if you're trying to focus on those first.

[unkempt yoke]

Who uses them theese days

[distant pond]

For lawless frontier missions and stuff is it possible to go in solo does it literally make you matchmake?

[turbid talon]

Adult homeowners with mortgages and full time jobs, I suppose.

[unkempt yoke]

Uk i like the prismatic subclass but i wish i had a way to go invis more often

I alr found a bypass but its not so effective

[fathom marten]

It should have a private option, I believe

[unkempt yoke]

Uhhhh well noone uses full stops

[distant pond]

Thank you

[turbid talon]

I shall endeavour to return them. I'll be a trendsetter; a hot stepper.

[unkempt yoke]

Ok no enough ragebait ima go do smth now cya guys

[small relic]

Wormgod or Pyrogale?

Oddly I haven't seen any pyrogale builds, I rememebr consecration being very good.

[fathom marten]

Was nerfed

Ignition doesn't scale anymore

[small relic]

Ah, so wormgod?

[fathom marten]

Yep

And the new sword might also count as a melee, not sure. Compendium is vague with its wording

[small relic]

Also wasn't there a titan exotic someone said was better than wormgod.

It's where you can call back your hammer.

[high lily]

thats not better than wormgod

[small relic]

Basically thor if he smoked too much.

No?

Yt lied to me.

[fathom marten]

Melas Panoplia is a gimmick at best

[high lily]

its better than syntho now

[fathom marten]

Melas?

[high lily]

yes

[fathom marten]

Huh

[high lily]

was already off by like, 20 damage

in renegades they buffed hammer damage based on distance thrown

[fathom marten]

Neat

[small relic]

Huh, so it's worth going for it?

I don't like how the hammer can sometime end up in a completely different position.

[turbid verge]

How can get mint retrograde now ?)

Like the loot pool is changed?

For the portal ?

[pearl plinth]

I've been using melas since before renegades dropped and it's crazy good

[small relic]

I have an issue, I'm bipolar bro. I can't choose which class to play.

[pearl plinth]

nothing else in the world like oneshotting an barrier grim from downtown with a hammer and then calling it back to you

[small relic]

I've been switching between all three.

[fathom marten]

Currently unobtainable. I don't know whether or not this is intentional

[pearl plinth]

or like. chunking a fifth of a boss's health with a throw

[small relic]

It's only from edge of fate right?

[fathom marten]

Yes

[small relic]

Which dlcs are not free again?

Renegade and edge of fate?

[cerulean sail]

just renegades iirc?

[twin peak]

just renegades

[pearl plinth]

just renegades

[small relic]

Oh wait so I could actually go get males.

[twin peak]

just monika lol

[small relic]

.

Melas.

Monika?

Ah so I can't get the melas exotic?

[twin peak]

nothing lol

[pearl plinth]

you could

[cerulean sail]

why couldn't you

[small relic]

I do not have edge of fate.

[pearl plinth]

if you do EoF on legendary or get lucky with a sieve after doing it in brave

[pearl plinth]

free access

[cerulean sail]

open access week

right now

[small relic]

Alright thank you handsome mfs I'm on my way to get it right now.

[pearl plinth]

you keep it after the week ends if that's what you're worried about

[small relic]

Also I just got an exotic cipher, any exotics I should keep a look out for?

Preferrably weapons for bosses.

[pulsar hemlock]

does the new exotic ornamnet system work if used in crucible?

[molten zodiac]

Hey quick question, can I get the lightsaber as a F2P? What new for F2P? Player like any exotics or no?

[shut quiver]

when r vanguard alerts coming

[shut quiver]

no

[shut quiver]

no

[fathom marten]

You cannot. What's new for F2P is Open Access Week and Barrow Dyad in the portal

[urban whale]

does anyone know why my pc kept crashing when trying to fight the witness??

[molten zodiac]

What’s open access week?

[fathom marten]

All expansions prior to the most recent one are F2P for a full week

[turbid talon]

All currently available Destiny 2 expansions, including The Edge of Fate, in addition to raids, dungeons, and content packs, will be playable at no additional cost on all platforms. All currencies, weapons, armor, Titles, Triumphs and cosmetics that players earn during this week will be theirs to keep.

[fathom marten]

You will not keep any subclasses though

[karmic pebble]

hey guys i have no activity in renegades map after finishing the story what should i do ?

[molten zodiac]

Wait can I keep the dlc?

[turbid talon]

No.

[fathom marten]

You've finished the main campaign and defeated big cabal dude? Check to see if there's a new quest about turf wars or the Praxic Path

[turbid talon]

I believe there's a known bug regarding that at the moment. It isn't just affecting you.

[karmic pebble]

already done

[urban whale]

ohhh

[karmic pebble]

it's like that

[fathom marten]

Can you post a screenshot of your quests tab in #1445139275044622337 ?

[urban whale]

so i cant do anythinggg??

[karmic pebble]

the only quest i have is to do a priority contract

[small relic]

Oh nice destiny 2 crashed.

[still barn]

are lucky raspberry, moirai or shinobu's vow worth making builds for?
I know nothing manacles on warlock has taken off, so I'm curious about some other builds

[real onyx]

is there a way to get New land beyond if you didnt pre order?

or not yet?

[shut quiver]

is there a consistent way to get t5 blasters?

[chrome oar]

so how do i level the Rewards pass now without the missions

what have they been replaced with?

(havent caught up with patch notes so not sure)

[pulsar hemlock]

is there a way to focus a gun for presage in the legends tab?

[pulsar hemlock]

go to tower and the vault of past something

its in the middle. its colored gold

its where you can buy past exotics

[marsh whale]

what expansion do i need for winter's guile ?

[chrome oar]

it didnt let me grab it yet bc i didnt preorder

[fathom marten]

None

It's base game

[marsh whale]

so f2p can get it ?

[fathom marten]

Yes

[pulsar hemlock]

seasonal hub

[chrome oar]

i see

[pulsar hemlock]

its where most of my xp came from

[marsh whale]

yo if i get an exotic weapon from this free week, after free week i still keep it right ? but is it in my collections or nah ? AND what about for Armour ? do i still get to focused decoding ? if not then i should try my luck now right ?

[fathom marten]

You can keep all exotics you earn during Open Access

[chrome oar]

Why is New land beyond even locked yet
the dlc is out
bc i didnt preorder i can't get it?

[fathom marten]

All currently available Destiny 2 expansions, including The Edge of Fate, in addition to raids, dungeons, and content packs, will be playable at no additional cost on all platforms. All currencies, weapons, armor, Titles, Triumphs and cosmetics that players earn during this week will be theirs to keep.

[turbid talon]

Preorder Exotics always become available sooner or later. I've been out of the loop so I can't say when it will be available, or even if it already is, but they're never permenantly locked behind preorders.

[chrome oar]

gotcha, yeah i remember when i started playing i could get the Final Shape preorder one
so it should be soon-ish

[fathom marten]

This is the case with Tessellation, The Final Shape's pre-order weapon

It was locked but now it isn't

It should just appear in the special rewards kiosk near Rahool when it's accessible

[pallid flicker]

How many times can we listen to caydes final radio message in tfs? I did the campaign on legend (yes, all) but didn't get exotic armor- but I can replay his message infinitely, maybe it's bugged and related?

[marsh whale]

yeah but what im asking is if i can still focus decode exotic armour, cus the one from collections is only 52 and not 63, and idk if that one is fixed or also random

[turbid talon]

It isn't a bug.

[pallid flicker]

Ah

But I don't get it why haven't I gotten exotic armor I did all missions on legend I have all campaign triumphs except gm excision

[unkempt yoke]

STOP PUTTING FULL STOPS

IF U PUT ONE MORE

[icy summit]

on rahool you say?

[unkempt yoke]

I WILL SWITCH FROM HUNTER CLASS

[cerulean sail]

claim it from Ghost

[turbid talon]

Threats tend to be more effective if something is on the line for the one being threatened, I find.

[cerulean sail]

"stop or else i will play a better class"

[unkempt yoke]

Nah

Hunter the goat

[turbid talon]

https://tenor.com/view/dear-god-soldier-tf2-soldier-tf2-gif-7977085984093123408

[unkempt yoke]

(I never took a look at any other class)

Listen i am 2 weeks into this game i dont want any talk about better class

The true best class

Is the class u are comfy to play with

[turbid talon]

I'm quite content despite Hunter historically, typically, being the 'weakest' class. I find it enjoyable and I get to throw junk at people and that's just delightful to me.

Plus, I'm rather fond of the cloak/helmet combo I've got.

[unkempt yoke]

Bro

Wht are you talking in premium english

[pallid flicker]

Ghost doesn't have any

When I go to him he opens the pale heart engrams shit

[cerulean sail]

then you have to be missing some legendary missions

[unkempt yoke]

Btw mr mael

[radiant lantern]

Can you farm dungeon exotics now or is it still one try per week?

[unkempt yoke]

What campaign u suggest i play

During free week

Ofc after the last shap

Shape*

[cerulean sail]

have you perchance already claimed the exotic?

[pallid flicker]

I do not have gifted or balance in collections, no

[turbid talon]

Beyond Light and Shadowkeep already have free campaigns (albeit not the rest of the DLC), so you could skip that.
Witch Queen was well regarded for its story. Lightfall was not, but it does also have a subclass reward.

Though, to be clear, DLC-locked subclasses are not kept after the free access week ends, unless you purchase the DLC in question. Stasis is an exception due to the already-free campaign.

[unkempt yoke]

Bruh

Dlc locked subclass

Why does that exsist

:/

[cerulean sail]

and you've finished the legendary campaign on a class that can equip those said exotics?

[pallid flicker]

Yeah my hunter

[unkempt yoke]

Ty mael i appreciate you tho

[cerulean sail]

because they're a DLC's selling point

[unkempt yoke]

Yes but to be fair

D2 as that amazing game

They need to have smth p2w

I respect that

Is it op tho 👀

[cerulean sail]

strand is alright

[unkempt yoke]

I like prismatic and i am alr comfy with it

So i am not that bothered

[cerulean sail]

well hey that's also a DLC subclass

[molten zodiac]

I’ll see you guys at D3 💀

[cerulean sail]

[unkempt yoke]

What but i alr unlocked that

I am pretty sure its kept after

[turbid talon]

Uh, sure. Not sure why you put that here, but sure.

[unkempt yoke]

Since i had it before

[cerulean sail]

no

[unkempt yoke]

I had it before

So how do i not keep after

[cerulean sail]

oh

you own the dlc?

[unkempt yoke]

No

It had a free intro

[cerulean sail]

ok so you won't keep it

[unkempt yoke]

I think

[cerulean sail]

which doesn't give prismatic

[unkempt yoke]

Bro ur memory is cooked

It gives prismatic

[turbid talon]

You get a taster of DLC locked subclasses in the opening missions of each campaign that has one.
All first missions of campaigns are free to play.

The rest of the content is still expansion locked, of course.

[unkempt yoke]

Well

I do have

[cerulean sail]

it allows you to transcend because there are prismatic pools in the mission, it doesn't give you the prismatic subclass

[unkempt yoke]

Some things opened

So it goes away again

Like the grapple

Or all ts

Just vanish?

Hell no bro.

[turbid talon]

It's hard to clarify the specifics when we haven't experienced it (due to ownership), but if I were you, I would not expect to keep any part of Prismatic earned post the opening mission.

Unless, of course, you purchase The Final Shape.

[unkempt yoke]

I will kill myself now guys

Cya

[turbid talon]

Ciao.

[steady skiff]

what's the powerful and pinnacle cap now?

[rancid tundra]

550 methinks

[coral cedar]

Can someone explain the 2nd encounter of sundered

Do the symbols just manipulate whats going on in the room

[marsh whale]

is there a bug where u dont get bonus drops ?

[cerulean sail]

yes, each symbol makes something happen when the lockset reads it

[near salmon]

is 380-450 possible in 1 day of spamming solo gm ft ops with no bonus drops

[small relic]

What would be a great primary weapon to hit precision shots with? hand cannons?

Yes it's also a skill issue but I find it pretty hard for the last bullet in my ar to kill with precision,.

[cerulean sail]

hand cannons, scout rifles

[small relic]

Should I run sunshot then? with nighthawk.

[cerulean sail]

sure

[coral cedar]

Its fine il just do the kill method

[small relic]

The explosion kills the enemies

[tidal sorrel]

hi everyone

how can i check which renegade campaign mission i completed in legendary?

because all of a sudden last 2 missions switched to normal difficulty for some reason.... so i'd like to check other missions as well

[cerulean sail]

check the "frontier domination" triumph in the Renegades seal

[tidal sorrel]

will do thanks bro

[wary compass]

I’m a new player and started playing, I never bought dlc but for some reason In game it says I own most of the dlc, but in the ps5 store it says I dont own? This is on ps5 btw.

[small relic]

Can you give me some recommendations on hand cannons

Legendary or exotics.

[near salmon]

free access till weekly reset

[small relic]

I don't know who to trust if blueberries was a lie all along

[cerulean sail]

free access from <t:1764694800> to <t:1765299600>

[wary compass]

Ahh okay thanks.

[tidal sorrel]

youre a life saver man, thanks a lot

[cerulean sail]

[remote iron]

im gonna sound like an idiot asking this but what's the Priority Contract Reset section in the "The Territory War Begins" mission? is it just waiting for the daily reset to get that section complete?

and how do I know exactly WHAT my priority contracts are? are they just the regular contracts we see on the left side when are in the Lawless Frontier map?

[cerulean sail]

The priority contract is the topmost contract in the submenu, should have its own subsection or whatever

[cerulean sail]

Yeah

[atomic field]

does 100+ melee buff lightsaber damage?

[cerulean sail]

Swords are weapons

[marsh whale]

melee stat is additive or multiplicative ?

[atomic field]

well, glaives benefit from melee stat too

[cerulean sail]

Because with those you use the melee key

Nah but it's more complicated than that, for the longest time glaive melees weren't counted as anything so they changed them to be unpowered melees so that they could be useful

Mainly to buff glaives

[still barn]

how are people filling the mobius quiver meter so quickly? I did levi breath shots like everyone does in videos and I get barely any meter from it

[remote iron]

you're talking about this area right?

[cerulean sail]

Yes, seems you've already done it

[remote iron]

ah alright thanks!

[small relic]

Anyone have issues contacting destiny 2 servers.

Or is it just me.

[steady skiff]

the cap is the same?

[remote iron]

also does anyone know the reasoning behind us not having a Fireteam Op Playlist thats on GM and Ultimate difficulty with matchmaking?

either that or opening up matchmaking for all fireteam ops activites in the menu? why is it only the top 2 that have it?

[pastel zealot]

that would be spreading the player population too thin. if Every activity had matchmaking then youd barely have enough players to keep a single one of them populated enough

[remote iron]

i mean thats fair but by that point just make a general playlist with difficulties to choose to queue for

[pastel zealot]

and this is because the playlists are specifically for 'quick play'. gm and ultimates difficulties already take longer than usual. even moreso if you have to complete them with strangers and without communication

either way you have fireteam finder and lfg servers

[remote iron]

i mean sure but you already do that queueing into the 2 daily featured ones

what difference would it realisitcally make in terms of time and effort qeueing for Sunless Cell on GM matchmaking or if bunige gave us a playlist quickplay on GM and I got lets say Hypernet

[marsh whale]

can sieve be done more than 3 times ?

[remote iron]

maybe i just miss the strike playlist system and just queueing for anything and everything : /

[fringe plover]

Has anyone else had issues with the spawns for invading?
Cuz I’ve just done one where I spawned in and got thundercrashed instantly due to spawning next to a guy, and then gotten stuck in an underground section with barriers at every exit when I spawned back in

[kindred flicker]

does outrageous fortune still drop?

[pastel zealot]

you can run it as many times as you want, within the time limit

[pastel zealot]

no, but it will be available again at a later date

[tidal sorrel]

does anyone know where do you find those lockboxes that we get from random world drops?

[weary cradle]

You mean in lawless frontier?

if yes, at the end of the mission next to the rewards chest you open them right away

If not you probably see them in the wallet on the renegade map

[paper wolf]

can you still get the wolfsbane?

and can I get like the third iteration catalyst still

[sterile yew]

hello, i had a question regarding the campaign of destiny 2. i would love to play the campaign how its supposed to be played, in cronological order. so i looked at the time line and it said i needed to start with "the red war", so i looked up a video on how to start "the red war" but it said to look for amanda but she is no where to be found in the tower? what do i need to do to really experiance the destiny lore/ story line? I would love to get an awnser.

[pearl plinth]

red war has been gone for ~5 years. most recent available campaign is Shadowkeep, on the moon

[sterile yew]

ah alright so its not really possible to play the whole aspect of the story then right?

[green crag]

I can't get more than C rank in every quickplay playlist, even thought i'm as near as possible to my maximum power level (400, max 403) and using only featured gear except for my heavy. Is there something i'm missing? The rest of the portal works perfectly

[coral cedar]

Nope. Just start from shadow keep

Thats as chronological as u can get

[sterile yew]

okay thank you

[pearl plinth]

playlists stop at master, once you hit a point it just becomes impossible

[sterile yew]

ill watch a video first about the lore then and then start the whole story line

thats for explaining

thanks*

[coral cedar]

You'll be there a while, enjoy

[sterile yew]

thank you, i will.

[sterile yew]

do you have any recomandations, because it seems you know quite somethings about the lore?

[coral cedar]

#📚lore-discussion this is lore discussion we have ppl who are really insightful in there

Ask and they will answer

[sterile yew]

hahaha oh amazing, thanks. i geuss ill be going nuts then

[coral cedar]

Yessir

[weary cradle]

There is depending on how invested you are "my name is byf" on youtube who is known as the lore guy

[sterile yew]

nice, let me give it a try. im net very much a nerdy dude but i mainly like to follow stories, and since i liked the destiny lore from what i have heard i thought lets dive in a bit deeper

[green crag]

to get good ranks i gotta play on gm, so that would explain everything

no new rocket pulse for me then 😭

[pearl plinth]

it still drops, just less likely

I got my roll earlier today from a reclaim

[green crag]

yeah i meant as a sure drop from that activity, as it requires B, hopefully i'm also going to drop one in the wild

[woeful phoenix]

What time does trials come back today?

[visual remnant]

what would be the easiest way to get a void buff without using void or prismatic subclass

[hallow lake]

?????

[pearl plinth]

destabilizing rounds

gives volatile for a little

[visual remnant]

okay ty i was hesitating with burried bloodline but it s 3 or 4 kill to get

[rocky sand]

I have played about 50% campaign with Titan (only character i have right now), I want to use Warlock as a new character now.
can i resume the campaign or should I play everything all over again?

[small relic]

I'm pretty sure you can't resume.

[hallow lake]

Every character is at 0 progress when you start

Toud have to replay every campaign again

[dreamy thistle]

Only options are

1. Finish with titan and pay a BS $20 for the campaign skip for warlock.
2. restart with warlock

[small relic]

Do you have to hit the 200 stat mark.

Is there anything special when reaching 200 or do you just have to get as close to 200 as possible.

[pearl plinth]

not if you don't want to I guess

it just hits the max for the bonus

[small relic]

[violet prairie]

Have the strand armor ornaments ever been sold for dust?

[waxen ibex]

Most likely the season after it was added yes

Hard to find the bright dust calendar history to confirm that but it's always how it works usually

[violet prairie]

Ugh. I just want the bond. It's perfect for the new Helmet.

[small relic]

Mighty Dallagen, suggest me an adclear hunter!

[steel sundial]

u got prismatic?

[small relic]

I do indeed.

[waxen ibex]

Honestly hunter adclear has really fallen off and is mostly weapon reliant

[small relic]

Yeah I'm fine with that, the nighthawk is a powerhouse of a onetap though.

Planning to just use somewhat of a decent ad clear then switch to nighthawk for the boss fights.

[steel sundial]

hoil cyrt is absolutely insane with this artifact

[small relic]

Hoil cyrt?

Let me see.

[steel sundial]

inmost light / cyrtarachne

[waxen ibex]

Honestly I'm just playing void hunter rn

[steel sundial]

what exotic

new one?

[waxen ibex]

Morbius quiver got so overbuffed

[steel sundial]

oh quiver lol

[waxen ibex]

It's so fun now

[steel sundial]

yeah

[waxen ibex]

Leviathans breath with quiver competes with nighthawk still hunt hezen rotation BTW

And that's not even the best way to do it, just the lazy way

[steel sundial]

wouldnt submersion be better

[waxen ibex]

Yes

Especially with hierarchy

Especially with 3 hierarchy users

Even without it's good

[steel sundial]

i wonder if having 3 people on hierarchy is a net dps loss

[waxen ibex]

Morbius quiver buffs all bow damage by 220% and 3 guidance rings buffs submersion damage by 30% on avg

I feel like it'd be good

[steel sundial]

yeah but wouldnt they have to be spamming hierarchy to keep the ring up

i feel like they'd lose out on dps

[waxen ibex]

They fixed hierarchy's draw speed buff btw

It shoots as fast as hush again

[steel sundial]

i know but they'd still have time with hierarchy out

[small relic]

You'd normally run nighthawk with prismatic?

[waxen ibex]

It generates a shitton of super still and we have good weapons to pair with it for swaps still

[steel sundial]

yeah

facet of courage

[waxen ibex]

Crossbow alh swaps still as good as rockets

[small relic]

Eh whoops.

[waxen ibex]

Also we have that new dungeon snipe coming

[small relic]

Been using solar.

[steel sundial]

yeah prismatic is the way to go

[small relic]

SOo what armor type would you go then?

STat wise.

Paragon?

[steel sundial]

also stareater goldy slightly edges out nighhawk but nighthawk is better bc of still hunt

[steel sundial]

for dps yeah

[marsh whale]

what does max reward multiplier in edge of fate kepler do ?

[small relic]

So.

[steel sundial]

for neutral i also go paragon but i max grenade and super so grenadier is also better

[waxen ibex]

I actually have been running solar hunter over prismatic but prismatic is definitely 'better'

[small relic]

I like being able to throw the fan knife and then just keep spamming then.

[waxen ibex]

Solar got enough buffs that it feels good to play now at least

Used to be a tragedy

[steel sundial]

oh young ahamkaras spine is also a fun rotation

blade barrage is also a good super now

[small relic]

Oh I just grabbed that exotic.

Ad clear? boss damage?

[waxen ibex]

Idk I can't see it being bad, the hush tcrash rotation was matching mint parasite and mint auger in epic tdp testing and hierarchy got fixed so all the hierarchy users can just be doing that too

[steel sundial]

great for both

[small relic]

I'm sorry for asking it clearly looks like ad clear.

[steel sundial]

not amazing survivability though

[steel sundial]

it has an infinite grenade rotation

[small relic]

Prismatic?

[steel sundial]

solar

can't use it on prismatic

[small relic]

I swear prismatic had tripmine

I lied it was swarm.

[steel sundial]

it has arcbolt i think

[small relic]

It does indeed.

[waxen ibex]

Blade barrage is weird because it has always directly competed with nighthawk/goldie for burst while also being a better aoe super

[steel sundial]

main reason is because its kind of like needlestorm

some blades might miss unless you're using that one fragment and even still its rng based

[small relic]

So for NOW since I don't actually have strand (Don't ask why) I'll try to build together a bladebarrage ahamkara build for ad.

[steel sundial]

still a good super though especially with the buff

[waxen ibex]

On release blade barrage power crept the fuck out of golden gun in every way lmao

[steel sundial]

strand's mid on hunter anyway

[waxen ibex]

Shards of galanor was so fucking insane

On launch

[steel sundial]

i forgot ab that exotic

[waxen ibex]

You'd kill 8 enemies and get a full super refund

They just didn't even try to balance it

All the super refund exotics were insane back then

Reckoning got them all gutted

[small relic]

Ah shit I have to do portals for grenadier armor.

[waxen ibex]

Orpheus rig would make deadshot tether refund itself instantly if you hit like 8 enemies so you could spam it at the floor near a crowd and make enough orbs for the whole team to spam nighthawks for a whole dps phase

[steel sundial]

orpheus rig is still good though

[waxen ibex]

Yeah but it is a totally different exotic now

It used to only make tether refund itself, now that part is worthless and it is just morbius quiver damage buff

Also star eater and orpheus rig do the same total damage on morbius quiver rn

I think rig is objectively better though because you get 4 extra seconds of bow damage buff

[steel sundial]

yeah

better for overall dps

[calm wren]

Does this end once your super bar empties tho? Or is it until the tether runs out

[waxen ibex]

You lose the 220% bow damage buff when the super bar empties yeah

However I don't know if it buffs just your own damage or the whole team's

I haven't had the chance to check

[calm wren]

I think it’s just yours bc it’s tied to the bar

Like on the left side of the screen

But I could be wrong

Either way it doesn’t sound super sustainable but might be really good for short damage phases.

Maybe I’m wrong tho

[steel sundial]

just yours

[waxen ibex]

Either way it's turning leviathans breath from a shit weapon into a good one, so i genuinely cannot fathom how an optimized crossbow rotation wouldn't go from already being good to being extremely good

[calm wren]

[waxen ibex]

Crossbow was already on paper competing with haliaetus last season with the bow damage buff artifact mod

So it's still good

[calm wren]

Personally I don’t think it’s gonna break into the meta any time soon

I think it will be off meta for a long time

And then some artifact perk will come along and make it busted for a seaon

[steel sundial]

i do not think so

it's outdamaging nighthawk

still hunt is there too i think they're roughly on the same playing field

[waxen ibex]

It was one of the top options last season nobody tried because submersion was hard to farm and Auger is somehow brainrotting people

[calm wren]

That’s what I mean.

There are just simpler options

/options that people enjoy using more

[waxen ibex]

Even without hierarchy though crossbow competes with rockets

[steel sundial]

we'll see on the 13th i guess

[calm wren]

I’m not saying it’s bad

[steel sundial]

i'm really just looking forward to sentinel shield shenanigans

[waxen ibex]

I'm wondering if this titan auto reload effect will send crossbows or heavy sniper nuclear

Both of them get way stronger with reload animation skipping tech

It's basically auto loading holster that can proc in your hand from how they described it

It just also doesn't work right now

[steel sundial]

old lunas is back

[calm wren]

Im interested in this as well

[waxen ibex]

Nah it's nowhere close to that

[steel sundial]

can't wait to use my backup mag heavy sniper in the dungeon race

[waxen ibex]

Honestly I feel like sentinel shield has to be good but the numbers feel weird to me

[steel sundial]

(i wont be running it)

[steel sundial]

the shield throw alone explains why they nerfed the damage buff

plus the orbs

[waxen ibex]

I think one sentinel shield cast is going to generally be 34k-ish damage from two shield throws

[steel sundial]

and the super gen bc its a roaming super

[waxen ibex]

But then it prints orbs and is a well damage buff

[steel sundial]

plus the damage buff overshield and orbs

and the shield itself

[waxen ibex]

I don't think this matters

[steel sundial]

im just saying it'll have very high uptime

[waxen ibex]

Part of my concern with sentinel shield is it lasts longer the bigger your team

So it might actually last too long and you just don't get enough shield throws in longer phases to be good

[steel sundial]

you get 2 max

maybe 3 with ursa

[waxen ibex]

5 allies behind the shield is a 30% super drain reduction so it goes from 17 to 22 seconds just from that

And then it further extends by blocking damage

So I think it's around 30ish seconds altogether

[waxen ibex]

Definitely can do 3 in actual raid scenario

[steel sundial]

i think the overall damage and everything from the super with 3 shield throws is worth it

[waxen ibex]

None of the testing was using full fireteam

[steel sundial]

true

it's a tradeoff

3 tcrashes or 1 sentinel shield

[waxen ibex]

Thing is you're comparing to the output of a boots of the assembler or sanguine warlock vs sentinel shield

It's hard to quantify

Without testing

Like the damage buff isn't exactly something we need sentinel shield for since boots of the assembler is overpowered as fuck now

Idk

[steel sundial]

por que no los dos

[waxen ibex]

that 2.5s auto load effect though

i feel like if optimized around could break a lot of dps rotation ceilings

ex: an izanagi swap takes around 1.5s including rehoning it after the shot

i feel like timing could work out to be able to do like, izanagi shot -> rehone -> shoot four hezen rockets

type of shit

if that makes sense?

hezen is probably a bad example it doesnt need a lot of help to get rockets out

[steel sundial]

yeah probably

[steel sundial]

halieatus comeback

cluster aggregate

[waxen ibex]

heavy snipe and crossbows are the ones im thinking might

go nuclear off it

[steel sundial]

or the heavy snipe yeah

not mine though

[waxen ibex]

heavy snipe is something like 1.5s between shots

so you could do like shoot -> reload -> shoot -> swap to something else -> auto reloads everything -> swap back to heavy snipe

and skip like half your heavy snipe reload animations on avg

but idk if that'd be worth?

[steel sundial]

i wonder if they will patch the backup mag thing

bc me and one other person has it

[waxen ibex]

they will bro

[steel sundial]

thats enough for them to wipe it off the face of the eart

[waxen ibex]

i guarantee it dies on tuesday

[steel sundial]

:(

[scenic matrix]

how do i get deimosuffusion

[waxen ibex]

see i almost feel like that 2.5s timer was made for crossbows

crossbows with max reload speed take around 2 seconds to reload and shoot again

doesn't that just skip half your reloads basically if full dumping bolts

idk anything else that would line up that well

[steel sundial]

finish the legendary campaign

[waxen ibex]

i guess the auto loading is nice for still hunt too

[steel sundial]

i think aunor gives it to you

[waxen ibex]

makes it so much less awkward

to do the rotation

[steel sundial]

it's so weird that the golden gun gives you ammo but also consumes one

just make the shot not consume any ammo at all

like luzaku's

[waxen ibex]

yeah im surprised they didnt design it so that it doesn't line up to golden gun using the last shot in the mag every time for shot cycling

but i guess they wanted to avoid the shot cycle being so optimal that you never swap off it and it doesnt benefit from outside help at all

oh apparently heavy snipe and special ammo hc is enough to do 2 phase solo witness now LMAO

[steel sundial]

whole team or solo

oh i cant read

lmao

thats wild

nighthawk + lp? or just nighthawk

[waxen ibex]

nighthawk + lp

[steel sundial]

ahh

[waxen ibex]

he's doing the burst hc priming strat with the special hc

his rolls are shit on the guns too so there's definitely a higher ceiling

kinda wild

[steel sundial]

outlaw pi

that's what im going for

[waxen ibex]

apparently thermal atomization might be better?

the perk description is misleading

it seems to be a damage buff that just scales linearly with your heat bar

so it basically is like PI but not super unforgiving

but im not sure about the numbers

[pallid flicker]

Is there some issue with coop iconoclasm? Everyone's game crashed at the final boss and we need to restart the whole thing

[wicked kernel]

I'm trying to buy a lightsaber hilt from the store but it says I cannot buy it and I already have a lightsaber how far in the campaign do we have to go in order to buy it thank you for answering my question I appreciate it

[sturdy tiger]

do I need to do something for the "Piker Crew" to show up? I've restarted the mission 2 times and when I get to that part I can't leave the room and nothing happens

[sudden egret]

Yeah, don’t look at the witness when he does his attack

[sudden egret]

Known issue, solution is somewhere in #bungie-tweets

[pallid flicker]

Is it some frame rate crash

[sudden egret]

Don’t know the specifics but it’s happening to others

[sturdy tiger]

thank you, found it

[flint magnet]

how do i get the keycard to unlock the other exotic?

[toxic badger]

Is there a way to get armor set bonuses from previous season(not counting event armor sets bc I know I can’t get those)

[drifting plinth]

event armor set singlular btw

[rancid fern]

Currently season 27 loot is only from Zavala.

[drifting plinth]

which is kind of mid

[thorny bronze]

whats the best way to farm piker rep?

[toxic badger]

They didn’t make a set bonus for the Halloween event? Lol

[rancid fern]

Bungie has stated they’ll be adding a way to earn season 27 loot in the future, no date yet though.

[toxic badger]

Thank you goat

[drifting plinth]

they only made one for solstice

[toxic badger]

I haven’t been playing since solstice I just assumed that they’d make a set bonus for Halloween bc it’s one of the big 4 events every year.

I took a huge break in between

[rancid fern]

The Halloween event had the coolest helmet ever, it had a mod slot to select any armor set bonus you want.

[toxic badger]

Damn

[rancid fern]

Slot left with the event though

[toxic badger]

Never mind then

What should I be farming rn then

Bc these set bonuses suck

[rancid fern]

I’d just go for the stats you want & not worry about the set bonuses at all.

[cosmic falcon]

If I wanted to max my super and get some stats in grenade and class for this hunter void build, what armor archetype should I set my ghost to for farming?

[rancid fern]

Grenadier with a super tuning stat & class tertiary.

[cosmic falcon]

Thanks my guy, you mentioned super tuning? How I do that?

[rancid fern]

450+ power level, only T5 gear has it.

[cosmic falcon]

I’m at 460, how do I make a grenadier tune into super and class?

[rancid fern]

Rng, but you can guarantee T5 in portal with a score of 1.15 mill

Also use ghost mods

[tight widget]

Ive filled this bar, but havent received a Legendary order.
I know its rng, but the bar starts over again w/o an order populating?

[cosmic falcon]

Gotcha, I just see balanced tuning rn, so just RNG for t5 to drop with super tuning. Gotcha

[rancid fern]

Tertiary is rng between 4 remaining stats not focused, tuning is rng between all 6 stats.

[pallid flicker]

So that's everytime?

We looked away, started killing ads and ig he attacked cus I just crashed again 😭😭😭😭

How do we do this mission bfo

[sudden egret]

Yeah 😭

[pallid flicker]

Dude wtf seriously like I can't get microcosm then?

[sudden egret]

Suffer or wait for bungo to fix it

[pallid flicker]

But open access...

[sudden egret]

Rough

[noble barn]

Is there anything worth farming right now? Don't have the dlc because idk if I'm gonna be staying for the long haul

[rancid fern]

You mean you don’t have any dlc?

Or just not the newest one?

[noble barn]

The newest one. Edge of fate I got to 450 in like a month and grinded out all my tier 5s

[long yacht]

Im kinda confused on something. any time I get an exotic armor piece, from like anywhere, rahool or an exotic engram or an exotic from any pass, I never get it with stats above 63. is there any way to get high stat exotic armor??

[fierce spear]

63 is the new max

[eager hull]

Did they remove the ability to hold onto armor charges with finisher mod and then swap to surges to use them? Or am I doing something wrong here

Cause it just clears my charges when I swap

[rancid fern]

They fixed it

Sorry “fixed”

[eager hull]

I was gonna say, not really a fix when it was that way for like forever lol

Most unfortunate

[rancid fern]

You’re supposed to build into time dilation and armor charges apparently.

[long yacht]

wow that sucks lol

[eager hull]

Yeah that’s what I resulted to, was just wondering if I was missing something to do it the old way cause that way is more continent

[long yacht]

wait so for EVERY exotic armor, 63 is the max stats you can get on it??

[drifting plinth]

yes

they are locked to tier 2

[rancid fern]

For armor other than class items yes.

[long yacht]

jeez

alright

that really sucks

[drifting plinth]

class items are just locked to 63 iirc

[waxen ibex]

yes

[rancid fern]

Wrong

[waxen ibex]

equipping any armor mod that makes armor charges decay will clear your armor charges

[waxen ibex]

dude including the masterwork stats and the stat mod is not what he was referring to

every exotic class item has a base stat total of 63

[woeful phoenix]

What are people using their chronologs on first?

[waxen ibex]

whatever you want

doesnt matter

harmonizers are the only thing outside of the pass cosmetics worth buying

[drifting plinth]

was just about to

[waxen ibex]

the point of chronologs really is they replaced harmonizers on the pass with the ability to buy shit from old passes you want

but you can still get your 5 harmonizers a season if you want

mostly because they're not releasing new patterns rn

[drifting plinth]

im getting 5 harmonizers first thing when i log on for a new season for awhile

[waxen ibex]

at this point i just use them to be lazy about raid weapons LOL

i used my 5 last season on hezens i got from vog chest checkpoints

xur ones went on sightline survey but i still need to get a 5th one to get pattern :(

[drifting plinth]

im using them for patters for weapons i buy 5 of at xur

[waxen ibex]

speaking of xur

[drifting plinth]

i farmed hezen properly

[waxen ibex]

he finally brought a decent midnight coup

firefly ofa is nice

[drifting plinth]

isn't firefly ofa one of the godrolls?

[waxen ibex]

firefly/shoot to loot/ep + frenzy/kt/ofa are the good perks

so yea it's one of the better combos

[rancid fern]

Okay, but help me understand how 63 can reach 100.
Cause I’m getting:
63+15+10=88
75+15+10=100

[waxen ibex]

because you are using the app and you very clearly see something saying +42 which is the visual cap for stats

and it's actually +45

where's the +15 coming from there even

[drifting plinth]

mastework

[waxen ibex]

oh the app even displays the masterwork wrong on his pic

wow

says it adds +5 to every stat still

i assume the total it shows is just wrong too

[drifting plinth]

hehe lol

bungie app do be shit

[waxen ibex]

lol he brought the like, lightfall after starfire nerf roll too

[drifting plinth]

lol

[regal citrus]

i’m having the same issue where did you find the solution?

[woeful phoenix]

Where do you buy the lightsaber crystals?

[waxen ibex]

you dont

other than 3 in eververse

they are all rng drops from different sources

[woeful phoenix]

Oh my b

[waxen ibex]

the menu shows them all and where they come from

[waxen ibex]

this actually sucks ive been waiting for a good midnight coup

if you know how like guys in their 40s who played d1 beta get about thunderlord

that's how i am about midnight coup

but its in the chudsaber slot

genuinely cant use it with any rotation ive been wanting to use this season

[weary cradle]

does winters wrath shatter scale with super stat

[steady minnow]

Can any one tell me if the exotic orders can be obtained by rerolling orders?

[still barn]

is briarbinds actually that good in pve content? I feel like it relying on kills and you going up to it and physically picking it up would limit its power in higher difficulties

[waxen ibex]

i think so?

[waxen ibex]

no that's why they just buffed it

it's a neat exotic but there's no reason to use it

[waxen ibex]

yes but the best way to get them is to complete legendary orders

[still barn]

makes me wonder why I've seen some content creators say they love running it...

[waxen ibex]

and the best way to get legendary orders is to run fireteam activities while doing orders

[steady minnow]

[e-mail]

[waxen ibex]

it's fun

it just doesn't have insane output

even if it's fully ramped up by the time it kills stuff the charged void grenades wiped 3 rooms

[still barn]

yeah, manacles is sweeping atm
wonder if it'll be banned for the day 1 dungeon

[weary cradle]

testing now

[dark mango]

no

[rancid tundra]

Is it bugged or just good?

[weary cradle]

answer is yes

[waxen ibex]

it's not even insanely good it's just fine

[rancid tundra]

Cool

[still barn]

what of eunoia or mask of fealty? (one of my main hunter builds got shafted, so I'm trying to figure out what builds are workable now)

[weary cradle]

winters wrath shatter in fact scales with super

[fierce spear]

Not unless the dungeon is all thralls

[waxen ibex]

charged scatters do something like 85% the damage of handheld supernova, manacles gives you 3 of them + you dont need to charge them + they chain kill enemies now so they can actually add clear

and they buffed the charged scatter seekers enough that they dont ruin the nade anymore

[still barn]

manacles turns scatter grenades into mini ghorn rockets, its funky

[rancid tundra]

Sumbracers but purple?

[lethal canopy]

Are you guys having connection issues?

[still barn]

if sunbracers grenades had the ability to self duplicate if they kill smth

[lethal canopy]

It's giving me the weasel error again and again

[drifting plinth]

use api to take wormgods off your titan

and off any loadouts made before renegades release

[waxen ibex]

meh

nothing manacles still dont do enough imo

it's basically just armamentarium for a really good nade

genuinely all it does is spawn more seekers on a kill and help the tracking out some

it's good but still debatable vs contraverse's free weaken and 50% nade charge restore

[still barn]

are mask of fealty or eunoia good in pve?
still a little mad about the rework to graviton forfeit, it was unnecessary

[waxen ibex]

what?

what did it do before that it doesnt do now

[still barn]

it used to give enhanced hp regen and reload speed while invis, buff melee regen while nearby enemies and after the armour stat rework it also buffed class stat

it basically let you dip in and out of invis constantly and let you reposition and reset every time you did

I would use it in higher level stuff or day ones to ensure survivability and ability to do mechanics

[waxen ibex]

and now it gives a giant ability regen buff that stacks every time you go invis and then starts giving you overshield every invis proc

its literally just better what

it gives so much ability regen you can literally go perma invis now

dodge comes back before invis ends if you want

the overshield on every invis proc is really really really good with on the prowl and stylish as well

i would genuinely even consider running graviton over a hoil cyrt class item on prismatic hunter rn if im on stylish

the +200 class while invis only helped uptime if you sat in invis the whole time and didnt play the game

it was a weird exotic that just did not help the actual void hunter gameplay loop

the reload speed part was nice but now you get reload dodge every 6 seconds

[still barn]

it would let me pretty easily cycle between smoke bomb and dodge for invis

[waxen ibex]

you can literally just do that better now though

i dont really get the problem

[craggy palm]

Does outbreak still give good super energy?

[still barn]

it feels like a really weird change that I don't see any reason for and the perk doesn't explain itself easily either, it mentions improved ability regen and then just "At maximum stacks, you gain a Void Overshield as well" with no further info

[waxen ibex]

have you even used it

it gives you a buff that is active even when not invis every time you gain invis

and that stacks up to 3x

3 stacks of that buff is comparable to having a constant max HOIL buff going for all 3 abilities

which reduces cooldowns to 1/8th of what they are

[still barn]

do the stacks decay or disappear after a time?

[dark mango]

no

[waxen ibex]

sure, but they last as long as the invis itself

it's literally the same thing as the melee regen buff but you dont lose it when you shoot a gun

and it's all your abilities

[still barn]

so duration invis = duration of buff before it times out?

[waxen ibex]

the max tier of the buff is enough that your class ability cd is shorter than 7 seconds

and you can literally just dodge invis forever if you want

[waxen ibex]

i dont know the actual buff duration off the top of my head but it's 100% a non-issue

[copper carbon]

Is there anything against using older exotics? Or is it just preference? For example, I love Wish Ender.

[waxen ibex]

void hunter makes it hard to uhh... see the buff

[dark mango]

there are year 1 exotics that are still viable in endgame

wish ender is not one of those

[still barn]

using exotics from earlier in D2 doesn't change anything, sunshot is still effective as heck even after all this time

[waxen ibex]

oh i just checked and that is quite literally how it works lmao

when invis the buff has no timer, when you cancel invis the buff gains the remaining invis timer

[copper carbon]

I figured its not amazing however it can deal with barrier and unstoppable this season.

[fathom marten]

It can't/shouldn't

The intrinsic Anti-Barrier should stop it from receiving other Anti-champ effects

[still barn]

don't believe wish ender can do that, exotics with intrinsic anti champ capabilities will not benefit from artifact perks or subclass verbs (like radiant)

[craggy palm]

So what’s the best primary for building super? Or is attrition orbs best?

[copper carbon]

Ooohh this is something I didn't know, thats unfortunate.

[waxen ibex]

you should know 'old' exotics aren't really a thing to begin with, exotics dont get sunset or age out and many older exotics have been reworked several times since they came out

[still barn]

there are some very very rare cases where the same ability/weapon can do two verbs, like athrys embrace and if we ever get overload/barrier solar melees again

[waxen ibex]

there's plenty of bad exotics but it doesnt have to be age related

[copper carbon]

Was asking cause I've seen stuff specify "new guns" or something

[waxen ibex]

oh that's just legendary gear from this year

[drifting plinth]

all exotics classify as "new" for that

[still barn]

a lot of the older exotics are just powercrept by the newer stuff or even just by legendaries these days

[waxen ibex]

exotics are exempt from that whole system

as of rn

[drifting plinth]

hmm do i snail here?

[waxen ibex]

exotic armor is technically tiered already but is fixed at tier 2, and gear tiers are irrelevant to exotic weapons

[copper carbon]

Oh thats good to know.

[fathom marten]

Always

[marsh whale]

how to cheese boss for graviton spike catalyst ?

[waxen ibex]

shoot it

[spare tusk]

So do swords scale with meele or weapon stat

[waxen ibex]

they are weapons lol

[spare tusk]

Well yeah but yk, sword

[fathom marten]

What? Graviton Spike shouldn't have a boss for it's catalyst

[drifting plinth]

btw, snail is my 3rd most used emoji in 2025

[still barn]

its a fair question tho, we've got some weird armour stat scaling stuff atm

[waxen ibex]

glaive melee is the outlier for being considered melee at all

[drifting plinth]

first is

[fathom marten]

Swords generally don't but the saber might. Compendium is kinda vague with it's wording

[waxen ibex]

saber is just a normal sword

[marsh whale]

there is one tough enemy to kill and if u die to him u spawn all teh way back somewhere and he can despawn as well

[waxen ibex]

doesnt touch melee buffs at all

the only weird thing about saber is the attacks can discharge bolt charge

[fathom marten]

Graviton Spike's catalyst should just be a random drop upon completing any portal activity and not tied to any specific boss

[waxen ibex]

mostly because the saber generates bolt charge if you're on arc

[waxen ibex]

graviton spike is the edge of fate puzzle exotic you have to go collect the catalysts for

graviton lance is the y1 pulse rifle

[fathom marten]

Oh I can't even

I've been thinking fucking Graviton Lance

[waxen ibex]

you skipped most of edge of fate so you didnt have graviton spike hate seared onto your brain from pvp

before they gutted it

[marsh whale]

graviton spike is the crafted one

[drifting plinth]

ye

holy fuck that thing was cancer

[fathom marten]

Even if I did I'd still confuse them

[fathom marten]

I don't have a cheese for it unfortunately

All I've got is this video from Datto from 4 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jix_Dh-OBUM

[dark mango]

smgs on peacekeepers or agape on lucky pants

super regen will be a bit slow on ‘one and done’ supers regardless

[weary cradle]

at how much power do enemies get that skull icon like in highest difficulty lawless flare

[waxen ibex]

objectively just Fast Talker for now + auger

outside of theoretical riskrunner shit

ionized heatsink + accelerated assault lets it shoot nearly indefinitely with PKs

and it has attrition orbs + target lock

so you get to full ramp target lock for the 40% buff and keep it while making orbs

[radiant lantern]

Can you farm dungeon exotics all day now or is it still once per character?

[waxen ibex]

dungeon exotics are farmable ye

[runic hearth]

its fairly easy to doo anoying yes but easy

[coral bramble]

any chance the christmas event is up already? (:

[grim temple]

Are my old crafted guns still good ? Or do these new tier 5 weapons just meta. Any guns I should know of that are good this season or something and where to farm them