❓destiny-questions

[exotic crest]

you can, but its annoying

that it starts on the highest difficulty since I dont enhance all my gear obv

[teal adder]

Why are these weapons banned? Are they broken or something?

[dark mango]

lightweight swords are broken

the rest is because bungie is full of idiots

[safe iris]

hi

[teal adder]

Didn’t they fix that this week

[dark mango]

new bug

[safe iris]

same bug

but less damage

[pulsar hemlock]

whats the best roll for hawkmoon

[pulsar hemlock]

the bug is still on?

[safe iris]

mispoke

people with the 25k per hit bug were also rapid meleeing

the rapid meleeing is still here

the 25k per normal jump and normal light hit is gone

[teal adder]

that doesn’t sound as crazy

[safe iris]

its like 7.5k dps

with tractor and well

[sand hearth]

@sudden egret can you explain the titan antedate tech please :)?

[sudden egret]

rewind + tl + pk = profit

[sand hearth]

thanks

https://tenor.com/view/easter-funny-shrek-funny-face-gif-16711314694006391008

[exotic crest]

is a 15 minute deep stone clear a good time?

[hoary hedge]

How difficult would it be to solo either gatekeeper or templar in vault of glass?

I'm kind of assuming gatekeeper is our of the question

So I'm mainly asking over templar

[wispy trout]

Can anyone tell me what the best titan pve build is? Just hot 300 power and have a good amount of teir 3s from iron banner. Want to make something geared towards endgame

[exotic crest]

solar= bonk hammer with wormgod
arc= crest of alpha lupi, or skullfort with a cuirass swap for tcrashing
strand= banner/wishful
void sucks
stasis idk but stronghold and mantle get thrown around
prismatic idk

well void has an ammo generation build

[sudden egret]

it's hard to solo templar without a dps cheese

[hoary hedge]

I guess I'll have to lfg it was kinda hoping to avoid the whole you must use this build in raid stuff

[unkempt steeple]

anyone got sound bug? when swap gun in inventory?

[high lily]

stronghold and mantle ❌

[exotic crest]

actually I wanted to know the answer

whats actually good on stasis titan

[high lily]

Armamentarium

[exotic crest]

scuse me what now

[high lily]

2 glacier grenades

whole point of stasis titan is to create a shatter crystals

[exotic crest]

do they regen fast?

[high lily]

theres a fragment that increases nade regen by 400%

[exotic crest]

if I spec into grenade enough can I insta regen or sumn?

[high lily]

not insta regen but its fast

[exotic crest]

ah okay

ill check it out then

[cerulean sail]

whisper of shards my beloved

[cerulean sail]

erm it's 500% (for 6 seconds, can last up to 11s)

[exotic crest]

chat I need an extremely large area to practice my wellskate

[dark mango]

dp opening

[valid hazel]

Uh what secondary weapon should I use with new malpais as my primary

I'm thinking of taking my funnel-web out of storage

Good idea or nah

[drifting plinth]

nah, it's garbo compared to other options

also, please say top slot, bottom slot

it's not primary/secondary anymroe

[valid hazel]

Uh okay

[valid hazel]

Options like what

I haven't even fired new malpais yet so idk how I feel about it yet but like, shouldn't I just use something that generates special ammo so I can stick to malpais?

[drifting plinth]

huh, ig nothing currently obtainable if you're looking for a void smg

[valid hazel]

And on that note, should I use strand ammo generation or whatever my bottom slot is

[valid hazel]

I'm looking for literally anything good bro

I just wanna be able to regen ammo for my top slot

[drifting plinth]

id prob use mida or something if you need a primary

[valid hazel]

Actually

I'd prefer a hand cannon because it's my favorite weapon type

But anything sustainable works

[drifting plinth]

zaouli's bane is the best one in the game id say

[valid hazel]

Can be special too so long as I never run out of ammo and need to get a finisher mod

[valid hazel]

What dmg type is that

[drifting plinth]

solar

gets incandescent

[valid hazel]

Solar is awesome

I wanna try out that radiant buff from the artifact

Where can I obtain it

[drifting plinth]

king's fall raid

unfortunately a raid

or you could use agape(two burst so you might not like it )

[marsh herald]

what makes some stuff drop at T4 sometimes? For example, just did Beneath the Necropolis, all 3 of my weapon drops were T5 but my legs drop were only T4

[drifting plinth]

bonus bs?

[marsh herald]

it was the bonus focus drop so maybe

[valid hazel]

That's a different weapon?

You mean bottom slot

Uh should I get the power loader set?

Does that give me a lot of special ammo

Or are there better set buffs out there

[steel sundial]

i dont know which set that is off memory

[valid hazel]

My swarmers have super primary stat and melee secondary stat, not sure if that's good, should I get melee / grenade as primary stat?

[valid hazel]

Oh

It gives a buff to your primary ammo type weapon's reload speed

Then the 4 piece is

Lemme double check

[steel sundial]

ah last discipline

[steel sundial]

for all my warlock builds i have some combination of super/grenade/melee

[valid hazel]

The four pieces gives special ammo progress

[steel sundial]

and a bit of class where i can manage it

[valid hazel]

When you get or of power

[steel sundial]

yeah four pieces are almost never worth it

[valid hazel]

I ha e zero idea what special ammo progress means

[steel sundial]

i’d personally go for the smoke jumper set

[steel sundial]

the little green bar underneath your weapons

[turbid sorrel]

smoke jumper + aion is best tbh

[steel sundial]

it generates special ammo when it is full

[steel sundial]

i’m assuming they dont have access to aion

[turbid sorrel]

[valid hazel]

Oh okay

And also uh

Where do I unlock synthweave bolts

[simple spindle]

Does Zavala rolls change daily for Mint?

[steel sundial]

ada-1 weaver bounties

[valid hazel]

Turns out I spend all mine on shitty cosmetics last time I played

[valid hazel]

I'm seeing threader bountires that give me armor synthesis materials

But no synthweave

[steel sundial]

yeah those

threader

you turn the materials into synthweave

[waxen ibex]

ada bounties give synthcord and you turn that into synthweave at the loom

[fleet aspen]

the kinetic force seasonal wants me to use a kinetic weapon like sweet buisness?

no strand or stasis?

[waxen ibex]

kinetic weapons do kinetic damage

[fleet aspen]

ive always saw slot one for weapons to be kinetic weapons lol

[ruby olive]

Hello, so I just started playing destiny 2 after the recent sale of the Legacy Pack containing all older DLC's. Just finished playing Shadowkeep yesterday and the main campaign just finishes off so abruptly. I saw that there was "Seasons" that continued the story but we're removed for various reasons. My question was, how much of the story am I missing from Shadowkeep onward since the seasons story are not available anymore

[fleet aspen]

uhhh a fair amount i think

prob wan a look up the storys for them on youtube

that goes for any other expantion up to now btw if your intrested

[ruby olive]

Oooh I see, thanks a lot. Kind of a bummer tho lol

[steel sundial]

theres the kinetic slot and then theres kinetic damage type

[waxen ibex]

it is the kinetic slot but i wouldnt call stasis/strand weapons kinetic weapons

its a weird system

[unborn cloak]

A lot a lot

There's a simpler lore recap pinned in #📚lore-discussion

[tepid yew]

You can also see an in-game summary (including certain missions and animated shorts) in the World tab > Timeline button (top right of the screen)

[tulip oar]

Most likely in the Mail menu. In case it was unclear, it's for Destiny Rising (so you'll be more likely to get confident answers in #destiny-rising-discussion) , not Destiny 2.

[muted wagon]

oh oops

[unreal cedar]

Does the loot cave in kepler still work?

[ruby olive]

Omg thank you, gonna read the follow-up of Shadowkeep before starting Beyond Light

[ruby olive]

Thanks again so much, I was refering to release dates on steam page to where to start first DLC lmao, helps a lot

[olive ibex]

Hey does anybody know if A New Light is still bugged out (step 12 where you go to the Tower, specifically)?

[waxen ibex]

yes

that's also basically the last step

just skip it

[nocturne geode]

hey guys i did the entire outbreak perfected thing how do i get the pattern to make a custoim one now

[fathom marten]

Open Savathun's Throne World and head to the Enclave in the bottom left. There you can head down a set of stairs to craft it

[nocturne geode]

says i dont have tha pattern

doesnt show up in reshape menu

[brave canyon]

Extract it from the one you got from the mission

[fathom marten]

Reshape is only for if you have one already crafted

[nocturne geode]

do i dismantle the red border one

[fathom marten]

You can, but it's not needed

Open it up and there should be a row of boxes underneath the main perks

I think the right most one should say something like "Extract"

[nocturne geode]

Ty don’t no if

[fathom marten]

Oh, right

[nocturne geode]

i got it

its in that

lol

[fathom marten]

Now check the crafter

You will also need space in your inventory to make one

I don't think you can reshape this one, though I could be wrong

[brave canyon]

I don’t think you can either I just always scrap the first one

[cerulean sail]

the first one turns crafted and you can reshape it

[drowsy oyster]

Sorry, I might have asked this already. If I launch Hfend through the portal, is there an exotic drop chance?

[fathom marten]

No

[pulsar axle]

does anyone have a good pvp & pve titan subclass (i dont have prism nor strand)

should i mw?

[fleet aspen]

is the datapads in avalon bugged rn

i know ive grabbed both pads its not claimable

and yes ive gotten the one in duality

[sudden egret]

I’ve seen others ask the same thing so maybe

[tepid yew]

I'd probably get a new one with the Armor 3.0 stat distribution

[pulsar axle]

how do i get that?

[valid hazel]

What does no time to explain catalyst do

And does the current season's exotic have a catalyst or do we gotta wait like a year

[fleet aspen]

i know which one it is too lol

its after you beat the lock section

its spawning in each time i look for it

[shell sedge]

Anyone want to help me out with finding the data pads in the fallen saber

[sudden egret]

Rank 90

On pass

[fathom marten]

No

[fathom marten]

Which exotic are you talking about, New Malpais or Third Iteration?

Nevermind, Curl already answered that one

[nova cargo]

when i get one of the seasona archive sets say on my titan, will i have to buy it still on my warlock and hunter

[pulsar axle]

is the titan wormgods build pvp or pve?

the bonk build

[nova cargo]

ah yes

the BONK

[pulsar axle]

what

but pvp or pve?

[turbid sorrel]

Pve

[uneven plaza]

how do you get ascendant charges?

[drifting plinth]

what the fuck is an ascendant charge?

[fathom marten]

Here's a video from 7 years ago by MoreConsole on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1O8DLG538

[uneven plaza]

at the dude where you turn in your loot stuff.

to unlock specific ones it says "needs 2 ascendant things"

[fathom marten]

Which "dude" are you talking to?

[uneven plaza]

exograms guy

i think it's what they are called

[fathom marten]

Ascendant Shards

[uneven plaza]

yeah

[fathom marten]

@drifting plinth you'd know better than I

[drifting plinth]

yeah, yeah

i just thought that ascendant charges may be something like the stuff from the video you sent

[summer imp]

Hi. I'm brand new to destiny. I finally finished all of the campaigns and am kinda lost on what to do now. Is it worth going back and rep grinding old campaigns? Like the ghost in Witch Queen, Nimbus, your ghost in Final Shape, etc? Or do you just do portal grind to get gear score up now?

[drifting plinth]

nah, it's just portal grind

other than like exotic class items and shit

[woven tree]

sloppy portal grind

sadly its the only end game content rn

[pulsar axle]

https://dim.gg/xu3xlzq/PVP-ARC-TITAN

is this still good?

for pvp

[woven tree]

might want to ask opinion on #📕crucible-playbook , since there is a lot more pvp players there

[pulsar axle]

sorry

[woven tree]

nah no worries

i am just giving suggestion since pvp playbooks is more helpfull in discussing builds and strategy

[fathom marten]

portal 🤢 but if you want something more concrete, try and follow the challenges set in Guardian Ranks under the Journey tab. That is, if they've actually fixed all of them and they aren't still broken/impossible

[summer imp]

That's a shame ): Some of the old activities seemed interesting

[drifting plinth]

the third iteration one is impossible

and the navota strike might still be fucked up

[tepid yew]

They can still be a lot of fun to play, they just won't help you advance in the current system

[safe iris]

did we ever confirm whether the "kinetic" weapons in the artifact are for strand and stasis in the kinetic slot as well?

[valid hazel]

Where do I find that

[valid hazel]

Malpais

[drifting plinth]

legends tab

[valid hazel]

Where's that....

[drifting plinth]

world tab

[steel sundial]

kinetic damage type

[safe iris]

😔

[steel sundial]

just use khvostov

[drifting plinth]

or multimach

[steel sundial]

[valid hazel]

Right, thanks

Uh, what armour sets are out there?

I see this one called pleas heard which looks pretty decent

[steel sundial]

they dont have set bonuses

they just look cool

[valid hazel]

No I meant the set bonus pleas herd

Heard

Which makes you regen after final blow with pulse rifles, sidearms and auto rifles

Until you reenter combat

[steel sundial]

ah

not very good

disaster corps set, i think

[spark widget]

Hi, newbie question. on PC, with my hunter arc build, I couldn't activate the ascension somehow. I jumped and hit "V" for the class ability. nothing happened. did I do something wrong? thanks

[drifting plinth]

x

the hotkey for ascension is different

[spark widget]

O.. I see. thanks!

[charred niche]

X hotkey default for most air movement related abilities like shatter dive, smoke, ensnaring slam, icarus dash

[spark widget]

@drifting plinth @charred niche , I just tried with no luck. just to be clear, I am on PC, the "X" is uncharged melee, NOT class ability which is "V"

[dark mango]

look at your keybinds, its under air move

[drifting plinth]

that must mean you changed it

[dark mango]

should be alt by default i think

[turbid talon]

You can simply check your bindings in settings for Air Move

[brave canyon]

Does super stat over 100 increase damage to solar weapons in warlock well ?

[dark mango]

no

[brave canyon]

Was watching llama’s contest build video and saw toidi was running 150 super on his build so was confused

[spark widget]

@turbid talon @charred niche @drifting plinth Thanks. the default on my PC for air move is empty.

[dark mango]

it extends the timer by 10s total

at 200

[brave canyon]

Not sure what the point in the 150 super would be then hmm

Extends well timer?

[dark mango]

yup

[brave canyon]

Oh shit seriously

[dark mango]

200 super gives you 40s of well

[turbid talon]

I've heard of this before, specifically with Air Move. I'm beginning to suspect it's a bit of a random bug that just... Happens to some people.

[brave canyon]

How the fuck did I not know this

[drifting plinth]

because you normally have enough wells for that to not matter?

[charred niche]

Seems like some people just have unbound keys by default for some reason. Happened with heavy metal and people couldn't use secondary weapon.

[brave canyon]

Just came to that conclusion myself

So it probably would be more beneficial to just spec into weapons if you have multiple wells

Has there been any YouTube videos on the iron banner armor 2 piece armor set bonus for the healing when shields are depleted ?

[turbid talon]

We love our flawless game

[tepid yew]

Aegis put together a tier video going over all the set bonuses where he goes over his (and the Compendium's) testing notes. Not sure if there is video of the healing in action, but he talks about it

[spark widget]

thanks @turbid talon @charred niche once I bound X to air move, all air move related aspects now work correctly. I was wondering for quite a while why those aspects have ?(question mark) in the activation description. looks like X is the only one allow dual assignment(also assigned to uncharged melee). when trying to use "V", it's removed from class ability. so this blank default is definitely a bug

[dark mango]

theres much better options available for pve, like granting DR on micromissle kill or even on orb pick up

typically gear that relies on you losing a substantial amount of health isnt good in pve

[brave canyon]

Ye I’m watching aegis’s video right now I got its thingy mixed up with the aion one

The picture for the symbol

[charred niche]

If its unbound itll show <?>. Maybe some keybinds allow same hotkey on others don't and so unknowingly it gets unbound.

[fathom marten]

You can have multiple things bound to the same key, but only across vehicle and character. Like, for me, E is sparrow boost on vehicles but melee on character

[pulsar hemlock]

died doing an acendent challenge but spawned outside

[fathom marten]

That's how they work

[pulsar hemlock]

cant even fidn the entranne anymore what do i do

[fathom marten]

Need to take another tincture

Assuming your 30 minutes ran out

[pulsar hemlock]

24 min cooldown

[turbid talon]

Are you still Ascendant?

[pulsar hemlock]

im ascendance rn

on my left screen

[turbid talon]

Did you complete the objectives but die before you collected the reward?

[pulsar hemlock]

i finish it

but i want to go back

i didnt grab an egg

[turbid talon]

Congratulations! You can't.

[pulsar hemlock]

what the fuck dude

i gotta wait 5 week

[turbid talon]

You can't re-enter once the objective is completed. You'll have to wait for the rotation.

[pulsar hemlock]

for this rotation to come back

[fathom marten]

Yeah, once you die or jump through the portal after finishing it you're locked out

[tepid yew]

I think it's an issue between how the game handles cloud saves for keybinds and how it keeps CVARS updated between patches. I ended up having a lot of issues with double bindings being completely unbound for seemingly no reason after certain patches. The last time I remember it happening was with Heresy.

[pulsar hemlock]

cant i use another character?

[turbid talon]

Perhaps. I never tried.

[fathom marten]

Strange, I've had no issues with it ever. Not sure why

[fathom marten]

I believe so, yes

[pulsar hemlock]

i never finished forsakan on another character tho

[fathom marten]

Not needed

Forsaken's campaign is gone

[pulsar hemlock]

oh yeah

forgot

guys why is this game so stressful

[fathom marten]

If you're going for Wish-Ender's eggs, you might need the quest on that character, though. I don't remember

[turbid talon]

Good question

[fathom marten]

It's old

[pulsar hemlock]

yet we still entertain ourselves with it lol

[charred niche]

Nothing hits like destiny

[pulsar hemlock]

i know

thats the thing, but the more you play and the hit goes away its sloppy dude

5 weeks to go

[fathom marten]

Is this a second character?

[pulsar hemlock]

yeah

[fathom marten]

...is this character also ascendant?

It doesn't carry between them

[pulsar hemlock]

it opened again

guys

holy shit

[tepid yew]

Watch em leave without grabbing the egg again

[turbid talon]

[fathom marten]

Good luck, don't die after finishing it and don't jump through the last portal either

[glad crag]

I don’t think I’ll ever look for the eggs

Aren’t there like 40

[pulsar hemlock]

yuh

[glad crag]

Oof

[pulsar hemlock]

the sparrow looks gud

if u ever look for all of em u gotta wait thru a 6 weak rotation

so if anything the sooner the btter

[dark mango]

truth nova

[glad crag]

I haven’t even found all those DC bones

[waxen ibex]

cursebreaker still takes half a year to get doesnt it lol

[glad crag]

Back when lore books were first added

[waxen ibex]

and if you miss one week you're now over a year

[glad crag]

Explain

[waxen ibex]

oh nvm i thought some stuff was on a longer cycle

searched it up again

i remembered it being a 12 week cycle not 6

[glad crag]

Did you think ascendant challenges lasted a full month lol

[waxen ibex]

i did cursebreaker like 7 years ago

[valid hazel]

Guys is this good

I feel like it is

I can technically use 6 rockets in quick succession with strand melee

[waxen ibex]

it wants cluster bipod

[ornate halo]

nope

[valid hazel]

It wants wha

[charred niche]

#💎shard-it-keep-it

[ornate halo]

is this cold comfort?

[valid hazel]

No it's the strand rl

[charred niche]

Haliaetus or however you spell it

[valid hazel]

Hali

[valid hazel]

Perfect

[dark mango]

u want cluster bipod/aggregate

[waxen ibex]

so cluster and bipod are both normally bad rocket perks but that rocket's origin trait works really really well with them

[charred niche]

The threadling build you suggested a couple days back goes nuts with it

[steel sundial]

unfortunately bungie doesnt like it and disabled it for the epic raid day 1 which means its likely getting retuned

[waxen ibex]

i mean yeah obviously lol

i dont think wolfpacks and clusters should give the full value of the origin trait on hit

[ornate halo]

what does the origin trait do

[steel sundial]

gives you ability energy on hits

[charred niche]

Hits grant energy to your least charged ability

[steel sundial]

cluster/wolfpack count as hits

[waxen ibex]

3.5% per hit on explosive heavies

so hali is giving peoples entire grenade back or whatever every shot

[waxen ibex]

strand warlock has a lot of builds that are fun

but not for other people

[charred niche]

Karnsteins? Pvp right?

[waxen ibex]

weavewalking and glaiving

in pvp

[charred niche]

Doesn't winterbite do less dmg without ammo. Or it's still good enough.

[steel sundial]

still 2taps to my knowledge

[waxen ibex]

I'm using it because it gives me access to glaive melee without taking up one of my two useful weapon slots

190 melee makes any glaive melee 2 tap

[glad crag]

Feels like Karnsteins and the other melee one from Y1 should just be combined

[steel sundial]

wormgods?

[charred niche]

Ahamkara claws. That'd be nice

[steel sundial]

or claws of ahamkara

yea true

would be nice but a little busted

[glad crag]

No, the one that just strengthens melee after kills

[dark mango]

winters guile

[steel sundial]

oh winters guile

[dark mango]

hmm

[steel sundial]

thatd be even more busted

[dark mango]

they just need to make it like wormgod tbh

[steel sundial]

imagine if wormgods gave you another melee

[glad crag]

Having to choose between healing on melee kill and getting increased powered melee damage on kill felt so weird in y1

[steel sundial]

true

meter system

[steel sundial]

you can already heal on melee kill pretty effectively

[glad crag]

I’m just saying, the perks always felt cut in half

[charred niche]

I only use my strand glaive cause I put in so much effort to get it haha

[pulsar jungle]

if you complete the overthrow in an area once will the secret wizard for duel destiny be there?

[fathom marten]

You will need to have done each overthrow at least once before the wizards spawn

So doing The Landing, The Blooming, and The Impasse once each and then doing them all again for the wizards to spawn

I recommend following this guide for the steps leading up to the mission itself: https://www.ign.com/wikis/destiny-2/Destiny_2_Dual_Destiny_Guide_-_How_to_Unlock_Exotic_Class_Items#How_to_Unlock_the_Destiny_2_Dual_Destiny_Exotic_Quest

[thorn tapir]

How do I find the Kepler missions

[fathom marten]

portal tab

Kepler should be on the left side of that screen

[rancid fern]

Did you know you can weave skate like Icarus skate?

[ruby olive]

If I buy the newest expansion (Edge of Fate) can I still do play the story of Reclemation ?

[fathom marten]

Season of Reclamation has no story

[low hearth]

Hey quick question, what are the T5 Drops from GM conquest Fallen Saber?

[fathom marten]

Seasons no longer have any story

[rancid fern]

Random drops

[low hearth]

Thank you

[ruby olive]

Oooh that's neat then, since what DLC did they make the change ?

[fathom marten]

This one

[ruby olive]

So like, if I buy Edge of Fate, I'll get access to all it's story, no vaulting no nothing ?

[fathom marten]

Even if it did have a story, it wouldn't be vaulted either. They changed their policy on that and have no plans to vault anything added after July 15

[ruby olive]

Super awesome, thank you a lot and sorry for my broken english haha

[rancid fern]

Just make sure your postmaster isn’t full when you complete it, because the chest barfs right into the postmaster on that one. It’s a bug.

[wicked nest]

theres any meta ? Titan ? Hunter ? i back after 2 months of inactivity

[jagged parcel]

Im new to spoils and dont know how it works, is there a limit to them like I can only get a few in a week and I have to wait till next week to get more???

[valid hazel]

Okay so I'm here in king's fall, already bad enough that I'm doing it solo with no prior experience

How the hell do I play this raid, nothing's fucking happening and the map is empty

[fathom marten]

1. Don't do it solo
2. You can't do it solo

[amber bloom]

am i missing something? i keep gettiing detonation imminent in solo ops quickplay? is there any way i can defuse myself?

[valid hazel]

HUH

[steel sundial]

it depends on the raid

[valid hazel]

WHY NOT

[steel sundial]

its not meant to be in solo ops

[fathom marten]

Raids are not designed to be soloed

[steel sundial]

bungie messed up

[fickle hearth]

Anyone got or know someone that has the dual destiny exotic mission

[fathom marten]

https://www.ign.com/wikis/destiny-2/Destiny_2_Dual_Destiny_Guide_-_How_to_Unlock_Exotic_Class_Items#How_to_Unlock_the_Destiny_2_Dual_Destiny_Exotic_Quest

[valid hazel]

That doesn't stop me.

[steel sundial]

you have to unlock it yourself to do it

[jagged parcel]

Can you give and examples? And how it works?

[steel sundial]

you can't join someone

[valid hazel]

I'm light level 86, also

So this would've gone very poorly

[fickle hearth]

I alr have it i need a second

[fathom marten]

The mechanics absolutely will

[valid hazel]

I'm also using old armour

[valid hazel]

What mechanics

[rancid fern]

You can only hold 240. There’s no limit to how many you can earn a week.

[steel sundial]

every raid except desert perpetual give 5 spoils per encounter per week

[valid hazel]

How many people do I need to dj the raid

And why's there no matchmaking for raids

[steel sundial]

desert perpetual can be farmed infinitely

[steel sundial]

six

[valid hazel]

Fuck this game man

[sudden egret]

It needs communication

[steel sundial]

there kind of is, fireteam finder

raids are generally very complex activities

[turbid talon]

Raids have always required multiple players. It's a staple of the 11 year franchise.

[valid hazel]

Six guardians for some weak hive

[turbid talon]

Dungeons can be solo'd. They're designed for that. Raids, no.

[valid hazel]

SIX guardians for thralls

[jagged parcel]

But I can for example, farm 5 spoils, then thats it... I have to wait for the next week to farm it again and so on? Like for example the vault of glass one or similar?

[steel sundial]

taken, actually

the taken king even

[sudden egret]

Raids are a high level teamwork activity

[valid hazel]

Oh yeah the taken king

Right

[steel sundial]

yes, per encounter/chest

[valid hazel]

I've never played a raid before, can't be that difficult

[turbid talon]

It isn't with six players who listen and have good DPS.

[steel sundial]

well if you don't know what you're doing, they're quite complex

if you do know what you're doing and/or have people with you who do, most raids are a walk in the park

[sudden egret]

You can’t even get to the first encounter solo

[valid hazel]

The only thing I've ever struggled with is finding my way around with the garbage tracker I've been cursed with

[valid hazel]

Uh how long would it take to complete once I find enough people

[fickle hearth]

Can you still do dual destiny with someone who has alr finished it?

[steel sundial]

if it's a sherpa run, an hour or two

[steel sundial]

you can do it as many times as you want

[sudden egret]

Depends if you have a good teacher. Maybe an hour or two

[valid hazel]

What does sherpa mean

[valid hazel]

Jesus Christ

Why that much time

[steel sundial]

basically you have a person to teach you

called a sherpa

[sudden egret]

Gets faster after the first run

[rancid fern]

The opening encounter can be a duo no problem but you gotta be fast.

[valid hazel]

My legs are gonna go numb

[steel sundial]

my salvations edge sherpa took 5 hours lol

[valid hazel]

How much faster

[sudden egret]

We don’t need to encourage low man for their first raid experience

[fathom marten]

My only clear of King's Fall 3 years ago took 3 hours and 33 minutes and I already sorta knew what I was doing and with a group of other people who knew what they were doing

[steel sundial]

much, much faster

[valid hazel]

Numbers, echo

[sudden egret]

Sub hour

[valid hazel]

Give me numbers

[steel sundial]

it widely depends on thhe raid

[valid hazel]

Specific numbers

[turbid talon]

It depends on the team and how often they wipe.

[steel sundial]

and the team

[valid hazel]

King's fall

[steel sundial]

20/30 minutes

[valid hazel]

Good

[sudden egret]

60 min

[turbid talon]

40 average

[fickle hearth]

Anyone know of someone willing to be my second on dual of destiny there aint sh— on lfg

[steel sundial]

if everyone knows exactly what to do

and has good dps

[valid hazel]

I'll find five randos and hope they know what's what

And I'll just stick to shooting

I'll figure out the rest as I go

[steel sundial]

which lfg are you looking in

[fervent brook]

why is this a thing a i need to get a weapon that is Lock behind a Pay Wall for my guardian rank that cost $60. but they remove 90% of the game wtf BUNGIE

[turbid talon]

You won't do it in less than an hour, then.

[steel sundial]

it's bugged

[fathom marten]

DCV was not 90% of the game

[fickle hearth]

Discord and on destiny 2

[steel sundial]

which discord

[fickle hearth]

This one and a lfg one

[rancid fern]

It was $10 for just the weapon a month ago. It was also free at rank 70 on the rewards pass.

[fervent brook]

Not this DLC but the game in general

[fathom marten]

I didn't say DLC

[steel sundial]

if you're talking about seasonal content, all gear that you can earn from seasons is still obtainable

[fervent brook]

its sad that i need to buy a DLC to complete a guardian

[steel sundial]

it's not supposed to be like that

it's an oversight in the guardian rank requirements

it's supposed to be the most recent season exotic, new malpais

which is totally free to earn

albeit with a bit of grinding

[fathom marten]

Furthermore, getting beyond Guardian Rank 10 is impossible anyway since they removed the Extinction modifier

[steel sundial]

which lfg one

[fickle hearth]

This one and a lfg one

[fickle hearth]

Its called destiny 2 lfg

[steel sundial]

i see 5 people looking for dual destiny duos in the last 20 minutes

so either you're in a different server or not looking hard enough

[sudden egret]

It’s back

[fathom marten]

[sudden egret]

You would know if you actually played

[fickle hearth]

Been in it for a hour or so

[steel sundial]

you can't expect to keep up with this stuff while being retired squid 😭

[tepid yew]

You're going to get kicked or they're going to leave

[fathom marten]

I've managed with the 6000 accessories

[turbid sorrel]

Is bro doing KF expecting a carry

[turbid talon]

Kid was doing it solo, actually.

Wondering why it was so hard

[turbid sorrel]

[fervent brook]

yea thats just sad tbh like why they would do this im a F2P (havent bought no DLC) bc they remove 90% of the game content

[fathom marten]

At no point have they ever removed 90% of the game's content

[turbid talon]

And the DCV was 5 years ago besides that

[steel sundial]

it's an oversight

it'll get fixed at some point

[turbid sorrel]

Damn we gettin old

[steel sundial]

they arent intentionally trying to gate f2p players out of that guardian rank

or any guardian rank for that matter

they stopped doing that in EOF

[fathom marten]

Should I just leave the server again?

[steel sundial]

it used to be gated to the newest expansion or raids but it is not anymore

[turbid talon]

Also if you're F2P you wouldn't experience "90%" of the old game content anyway

[steel sundial]

no you should start playing again

[fathom marten]

portal sucks too much :/

[steel sundial]

theres stuff you can do besides portal

[sudden egret]

Then epic raid!

[turbid sorrel]

Bungie sucks

[steel sundial]

you can level entirely in the raid

[turbid sorrel]

Not portal

[steel sundial]

portal is ok

i like it

but i understand why quid doessnt

[fathom marten]

Compromise, they both suck

[fervent brook]

yea a "5 years ago" they never gonna fix this

[glad crag]

If u go back to the first TWIDs and previews that mentioned Portal, it was originally a guide for new players that got them into the EXISTING content

[steel sundial]

i guarantee you it will be fixed within like

a week

thats how most bugs have been fixed recently

[tepid yew]

I don't know about that haha

Some of those known issues have been sitting there for a while

[steel sundial]

well

most portal-related bugs at least

[tepid yew]

hahaha fair

[steel sundial]

this is portal-adjacent

i'd say

[turbid talon]

Your bug is new and the DCV isn't broken.

[glad crag]

Imagine if they actually told us from the start that Portal would be the game from now on

[turbid sorrel]

I mean

They kinda did

[tepid yew]

They kinda did

[steel sundial]

they kind of did yeah

[fathom marten]

They did, I just didn't expect it to be this egregious

[glad crag]

It was a guide

An optional guide

[fathom marten]

And it should've stayed as that but clearly somewhere along development it got changed

[glad crag]

Portal was just a landing page

[drowsy oyster]

Does burning ambition trigger ignition? For the purpose of stunning champs?

[glad crag]

Yes

[tepid yew]

I think you're getting confused with Guardian Ranks, which are a guide to use the Portal. The Portal was supposed to be an additional avenue to good loot, instead it became the only avenue since they've been so slow in rolling out the Tier system.

[glad crag]

Maybe

They showed the landing page concept and how you could essentially “create your own activity”

[tepid yew]

https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_07_03_2025

Next we talked in depth about The Portal. We have a lot of activities available in our new hub, from Onslaught to some favorite seasonal activities like The Coil. You can choose from a big pool of modifiers to tune the experience and up the challenge in order to get bonus rewards. The goal is to make activities not only more rewarding and personalized, but also to make them easier to understand. There are tons of new ways to enjoy your favorite game with Solo Ops, Fireteam Ops and Crucible Ops, and also Pinnacle Ops, plus a section dedicated to activities like Exotic Missions that will get their unique rewards. To make it easier to understand and follow, we have reworked Guardian Ranks to focus on The Portal and its activities.

[glad crag]

Ok I stand corrected

[charred niche]

Does GR matter for loot tier or just power brackets?

[amber bloom]

Does the poison from necrotic grip melee benefit from melee damage buffs

[waxen ibex]

no

it doesnt even generate heavy handed orbs

[tepid yew]

To be honest, I'm not sure. From how I understand it, tier loot drops based on your final activity Reward Score, which is influenced by your Reward Rank, Difficulty, Modifiers, and Power. Original statements by the devs made it seem like GR would influence your Reward Rank, but I'm not sure if that's actually true.

[glad crag]

It only benefits from Techsec

[copper apex]

What’s better starfire on exotic class or it’s base ?

[waxen ibex]

people act like guardian rank affects loot drops but all it affects is event loot

afaik

if you want tier 5 gear drops literally the only requirement is hitting 1.15m score in portal

and that guarantees it

[unique fjord]

hey, i need help, eversince the Ash and Iron update, anytime i tab out of the window, the game crashes

has anyone else had that experience?

[tepid yew]

Are you on Win11?

[unique fjord]

i usually windows key in between matches, and it has never done that before.

yep

wait no

im on the newest one

[tepid yew]

The newest is Win11 lol

[unique fjord]

then yes

[tepid yew]

But yeah, it's a common Win11 bug. It happens to me a lot

[unique fjord]

common?

[tepid yew]

Yeah, been in the game for a while

[unique fjord]

it didnt start happening for me til the update

[tepid yew]

That's unfortunate

[unique fjord]

seems like reasons to quit the game continue to pile on ugh

so frustrating

[steel sundial]

more of a windows 11 thing than a bungie thing tbh

windows 11 broke so many games for me

and to make matters worse my pc is on windows 10 and it will be losing update support in like a few weeks

[dark mango]

hey atleast we have a few more years before w10 breaks

right?

[steel sundial]

linux is calling my name i fear

[sudden egret]

How’s Linux gaming these days?

[tepid yew]

From how I understand it, it has something to do how Win 11 processes/sleeps background windows. If you google it a bit, you'll see plenty of Bungie forum or Reddit posts listing a dozen different causes and solutions, from driver updates to window/fullscreen configs to regedits to windows animations to power settings. I haven't found one that's worked consistently for me, and the only game it really effects for me is D2.

[steel sundial]

no idea, i'm a microsoft fangirl till the day i die

[tepid yew]

Better than its ever been, but not compatible with a lot of games that use kernal-level anti-cheat like D2

[unique fjord]

i mean at first, the only issue i had was finding a crucible match would take a godly amount of time if i tab out of D2

i miss when that was the ONLY issue

[dark mango]

can you even launch d2 on linux

i thought it’s not supported

[tepid yew]

People have, iirc BattlEye freaks out and flags your account

[celest island]

Can I play vog on a toaster at school. Looking for a portable vog device.

[dark mango]

yea not worth it

i will endure w10 for a few more years until it breaks completely

[steel sundial]

hopefully by then win11 will be up to speed

[waxen ibex]

@unique fjord are you in fullscreen or borderless windowed

[dark mango]

vog in drising

[celest island]

Holy

That sounds sick

[waxen ibex]

exclusive fullscreen does not exist as a concept in dx12/win 11 so you should be in borderless windowed regardless

[celest island]

I was planning on programming vog in Minecraft

[oak canopy]

So when I do solo ops advanced is it possible to get +10 level engrams?
Rn I get +5

[steel sundial]

one of the heroes actually has the relic as an ability

[dark mango]

oof

[steel sundial]

it's kabr himself!

actually patient do you know the vog

lore

[unique fjord]

fullscreen

[waxen ibex]

use borderless

[celest island]

Fuck even is a lore

Me no care about any that

[steel sundial]

2k clears and don't even know who kabr is

insane

[celest island]

Only care for clear

Trial of kabr!!

[dark mango]

patient what is the aegis relic?

[celest island]

the what

[waxen ibex]

modern windows has removed any downside borderless ever had and dx12 dropped support entirely for exclusive window mode because it only causes problems

d2 is on dx11 but win 11 fullscreen optimizations pretty much do the same stuff to dx11

[dark mango]

[celest island]

is that what the relic is called

[steel sundial]

yes

[celest island]

wait what

[dark mango]

this guy is not real

[celest island]

actually?

[steel sundial]

its what aegis' username comes from lmao

[tepid yew]

The problem is that once support ends, hackers won't need to worry about exploits being patched unless you are actively installing 3rd party patches. So depending on how quickly they discover the next big exploit, you might only have weeks before it's unwise to use.

[oak canopy]

Destiny 2 lore rn iirc we can turn into a ball

[celest island]

oh

erm

I'm not that experienced yet

[steel sundial]

so basically

[celest island]

Wouldn't know of such terms

[steel sundial]

kabr is the relic

[celest island]

How a loadzone is a relic

[dark mango]

are those safe you think? i don’t know anything about this sort of stuff

[steel sundial]

kabr was a titan and part of the original fireteam that went into vog

(in lore)

he stayed in there and (i think) the traveler turned him into the relic to help any other guardians who went in and to save kabr himself

[celest island]

this sounds so dumb

[oak canopy]

So when I do solo ops advanced is it possible to get +10 level engrams?
Rn I get +5
Rn pwr lvl 156

[celest island]

how people care about lore

clears > lore any day

[steel sundial]

vog has some of the coolest raid lore in the game 😭

[celest island]

nonono

noob lore

[steel sundial]

up to 200, all drops will be +5

[celest island]

lore for noob

[fathom marten]

Atheon literally deletes you from time if he kills you in lore.

[tepid yew]

It depends on if you trust the group and you're not just actively installing malware into your PC haha. It's been a while since I've looked into it, but I believe there are still a group of hobbyists maintaining Win XP, so surely some people will continue to maintain 10.

[steel sundial]

after that, they will slowly dwindle from +3 to +2 to +1

they will never be +10

[tepid yew]

You might have an easier time building it in Unreal haha

[waxen ibex]

i promise you win 11 is a better gaming experience than win 10 and has been for multiple years

[dark mango]

hmm ok, i will look into that thx

[waxen ibex]

idk why people act like win 11 is unstable

[steel sundial]

could probably whip it up with store assets in like a day or two

[tepid yew]

It hasn't been for me

[celest island]

idk how all that works

Minecraft make sense though 🙂

[thorn tapir]

Do you have to buy EOF expansion to make progress towards this trophy? Is it the only way now

[dark mango]

the base os or debloated version?

[steel sundial]

currently, yes

as the only « challenges » are for the desert perpetual raid

and mythic kepler missions

[waxen ibex]

if you're installing one of those stupid debloated os hacks you deserve the tech issues you run into lol

[tepid yew]

I have two boot drives, one with Win 10 and the other with Win 11. Newer games like MH Wilds worked better on Win 11, but older games like D2 and FFXIV have had worse performance on Win 11

[fathom marten]

DIM says "complete a Cyst" for me under challenges where those are listed

[dark mango]

i haven’t used w11 at all so idk, i heard w11 performance was bad when it was fairly new

[steel sundial]

i dont tjink those ones work anymorw

they arent challenges on the map

[waxen ibex]

this might be true at default settings for each because fullscreen optimization can reduce performance in dx11 games by 1-5% and defaults on

[atomic wedge]

So uh i just started playing and i cant find this mission for the beginner "A Guardians Rise" questline its called Travel to the tower, and when I do nothing happens and ive been stuck for about 2 hours plks help

[waxen ibex]

FSE also massively reduces latency for borderless windowed/windowed games

[atomic wedge]

I think there supposed to be a blue icon to do the " Travel To The Tower" mission. But I dont see it PLEASE HELP

is there any fix or bug fix

like should i just skip the questline now

[tepid yew]

It's a bug, Bungie recommends you just skip it

[atomic wedge]

dang its my first time playing

ive played once in 2020 and once in 2023

[tepid yew]

You basically finished the questline and still receive all the rewards anyway

[atomic wedge]

but like id ont remember anything

okay

ill do that ig

Ima just watch a vid of whats supposed to happen in the questline

[fathom marten]

Are you at the very beginning?

Or near the end of it?

[atomic wedge]

half way, lol step 12 out of 21

[fathom marten]

Yeah, I think that's one that's bugged, sadly. I think Step 21 is also bugged too, though they might've fixed that

[tepid yew]

A Guardian Rises is an extremely beginner-friendly tutorial that mainly teaches you how to play an FPS than anything truly useful for D2. Anything that you missed in the tutorial will likely be reexplained in other parts of the game

[atomic wedge]

When do you think they'll fix the bug

[fathom marten]

We don't know but it won't affect you in the future if you do skip it

[tepid yew]

Even before the bug, it was recommended for most new players to skip that questline anyway

[waxen ibex]

also core isolation and virtualization support which were added in win 11 to correct a massive security issue at the cpu architecture level and decrease cpu performance as well

create a lot of the gap people try to show

win 10 has them but defaults off

[atomic wedge]

aw fr? whats the point, i mean im watching sm1 else's playthrough it and it seems pretty cool

[tepid yew]

There are much cooler things to do in game than that questline haha

[waxen ibex]

anyone who hates kernel anticheat should be championing core isolation being turned on as well but inconsistent messaging online is a staple

[atomic wedge]

well now that im about to skip it where do i start lol

[tepid yew]

Probably with the Timeline menu in the World tab. It has a bunch of shorts and missions that explain the history of the game. Once you get to Shadowkeep, you can switch to the campaign missions for that, which I believe start on the moon, but I can't quite remember haha

[charred niche]

I just think I'd be so much easier if they state straight up this is how this system works. So ambiguous for no reason

[waxen ibex]

they do though

[steel sundial]

they do yeah

[waxen ibex]

by not saying anywhere that gr affects drops

because they never have

[steel sundial]

they have, for events

[waxen ibex]

and that's only true for spending tokens

[steel sundial]

it says explicitly on event engrams (such as heavy metal/iron banner) that the reward is directly connected to your guardian rank

[waxen ibex]

where it explicitly says it uses your gr

it says that nowhere else

[steel sundial]

yeah which is why we say it only applies to event loot

i mean it also gives you a reward score multiplier increase

albeit small i think

[waxen ibex]

it doesnt even apply to event loot in general

only token spending

[steel sundial]

ehh it did apply to the arms week weapons

[waxen ibex]

if it comes from a vendor it uses gr

[steel sundial]

those were in engrams but non-event token

[waxen ibex]

if it comes from portal it uses score

[steel sundial]

yea

[waxen ibex]

it should be really obvious

[tepid yew]

I've said it before, but communication and clarity of patch notes is one of Bungie's weakest issues. Sometimes this is okay, like in the case of new content where they want players to discover this stuff themselves. But it's extremely frustrating when that's not the case, doubly so when we discover something and have to guess whether it was an intentional change or a bug.

[steel sundial]

the community also blows a lot of bungies mistakes wildly out of proportion

cough cough aztecross cough cough

not to say they don't make mistakes that deserve outrage but

[waxen ibex]

in this case with the gear tier to power relationship the problem is people even coming at it looking at power first at all lol

[tepid yew]

Oh no doubt, the subreddit is bad enough haha. But a lot of these things would at least resolve more cleanly with better comms

[steel sundial]

come on man some of tthe shit i see people complaining about is so minor lmfao

[waxen ibex]

it's score that directly affects the tier your gear drops in portal

if score isnt involved in a tiered loot drop something has to be

[steel sundial]

i mean it's indirect but it effects score which then effects your drops

i'm pretty sure you can't get guaranteed tier 5's at 470 unless you're at least guardian rank 7??

i think?

i'm not completely sure

[waxen ibex]

it depends on the activity

some activities just score higher at baseline

[steel sundial]

i mean out of convenience i'd like them to be guaranteed on everything lol

[waxen ibex]

and the threshold is actually just 1.15m score

so it's easy to see if you are hitting it

[tepid yew]

PVP vs PVE rewards are a perfect illustration of this. You can be 420 GR4 and get Tier 4 in PVE, then jump into PVP and get Tier 5

[steel sundial]

yea

[waxen ibex]

well

if you are getting a t5 at 420 power it's a prime engram

[steel sundial]

i'm around 425 and all my pvp drops are tier 5s

well minus my comp focuses for some fucking reason

pls give me firefly headstone solemn remembrance

[tepid yew]

But again, this all goes back to communcation. Bungie hasn't done a good job of communicating the system, so we have an influx of both new and seasoned players asking how and when they'll get certain rewards

[steel sundial]

yeah dmg on twitter is a perfect example

he's hyping up bungies endeavors, not listening to players and blocking people for petty jokes instead of like

doing his job

[waxen ibex]

genuinely half the confusion has been content creators spreading their own misreadings of it too

[steel sundial]

yea thats what i said earlier

cough cross

[waxen ibex]

just explain how it works to a dad youtuber like aztecross and it will trickle up

[tepid yew]

Which again, if the system was presented clearly from the beginning, we'd be a lot better off haha

[waxen ibex]

their initial presentation of how it works was fine is my point lol

[steel sundial]

mmm there was a lot of numbers and stuff behind the scenes that would have been nice to know upfront rather than learning through extensive community research and later explanations in twabs

[sharp sequoia]

I heard there is a way to store enhancement cores into your vault space, is this true?

[turbid sorrel]

Nope

[sharp sequoia]

I got excited for nothing

Rip

[unborn cloak]

Does blast distributor expire all at once or stack by stack?

[sudden egret]

yes you can, open you vault, go to inventory and store

[turbid sorrel]

Could’ve sworn they got rid of it

[sudden egret]

I just did it

[turbid sorrel]

Damn

[sudden egret]

doesn't work if your vault is full

[turbid sorrel]

U have vault space 💔

[cerulean sail]

i have 2 997 sitting in my vault

[steel sundial]

can u pass me a few

i’ve been hovering st around 500 for like the entirety of eof

[turbid sorrel]

I read this as two 997

Instead of 2,997

[cerulean sail]

gg

a jillion billion

[turbid sorrel]

Comma moment

[sharp sequoia]

Is there any video on how to do it?
I am confused

Like do I have to press ctrl in order to store it like any other item?

[sudden egret]

if you are in orbit, open vault with w, while your vault is open, open your inventory and go to your cores

you should see an option to store it

[sharp sequoia]

Got it

Thanks

[oak canopy]

So in solo ops once it complete do I need to exit to orbit before queue another mission?

[sudden egret]

Once the gear is on the floor you can launch a new mission

[wicked nest]

which stats to focus ?

[sudden egret]

For what?

[wicked nest]

Hunter/War

Pve

[sudden egret]

Depends on build, health is the only stat to ignore in pve

[fringe summit]

anyone know what to do if you have a bugged xenophage quest, when i open the chest after lighting the statues it doesnt drop the quest, Ive completed shadowkeep checked postmaster and quest kiosk any ideas?

[red thorn]

any idea how do i get chronolog coins ?

[cerulean sail]

the reward pass

[exotic crest]

How many runs of crotas does it take to finish the necrochasm quest?

[wraith umbra]

How many hours until trials and xur is back???

[fathom marten]

8 hours and 10 minutes

[wraith umbra]

3am for me that's not too bad

[remote slate]

does anyone have shuro chi checkpoint in last wish, i want to farm catalysts

[cerulean sail]

get to the wish wall and put in the wish

[tepid yew]

I'm pretty sure I said that to you yesterday hahaha

#❓destiny-questions message

[wraith umbra]

Ha yeah but trying to calculate the difference between US and my hours just easier to ask

[tepid yew]

I live in Sydney

[wraith umbra]

Me too lmao

Not many Aussies on here you getting a team together for raids or activities in clan must suck for you

[ripe nova]

/join CheckpointBot#0422

[red thorn]

Thank you

[exotic crest]

Is there a place where I can get stun all 3 types of champions

[rancid fern]

Firing range maybe?

[exotic crest]

How do you spawn them there?

[rancid fern]

The panel to the right of the reset wave.

[rancid fern]

Are you using the same character that did the campaign?

[exotic crest]

It spawns them but unfortunately doesn’t count towards the guardian rank challenge

The problem is I keep getting overload champs in all other content

And I want the other ones lol

[little pewter]

have you done the memory quest to start the quest on that very character

[minor skiff]

Does anyone know if festival of the lost will return with exotic class items again, trying to complete dual destiny has been one of the worst experiences I have had in the game

[little pewter]

unknown, but likely

[minor skiff]

alright thanks

[sand stump]

Can I go into Crotas with only D1 knowledge?

[little pewter]

no

you will need a sherpa, some mechanics have changed, some encounters have extra mechanics

for example, the chalice of light has mechanical relevance every encounter

[rancid fern]

Just curious, but did you use a mic, text chat, or no comms at all?

[swift cargo]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to complete the gm conquest savathuns spire boss room as I know about waiting out the timer for the first 2 rooms but got absolutely destroyed in the final boss room with the 3 hive guardians?

[maiden turtle]

did bungie make it easier to get exotic class items these days?

[minor skiff]

I can text chat
I am not struggling with the mission
I am struggling to find ppl to do the mission
I know the mechanics and the callouts
Clock, plates, VOW symbols

[little pewter]

phrase your LFG post to only accept people that KWTD as a workaround

should you want to try to get it before halloween.

[rancid fern]

Anything that can suppress them out of a Super is a great option.
Also, bubble glaive for extra shield and cover.

[rancid fern]

DM me your bungie name and I’ll send you a friend request. Then just hit me up if we’re online at the same time, I’ll help you through it. I’m EST & mostly play weekends/after 8:00pm.

[waxen ibex]

Uhh

Yes and no? Tfs didn't change shit

But you're like 50/50 getting one per overthrow run

Strange coins aren't that hard to farm either

I've been getting like 5-6 per portal activity

[tame hornet]

is xur here yet or is that at 9am

[sand stump]

What should I use my Exotic ciphers on I keep maxing out

[tame hornet]

buy old dlc exotics in the tower

[steel sundial]

1pm est

or <t:1758906000:t> your time

@cerulean sail (did i do it right)

[sand stump]

Any Old exotics worth it now?

[steel sundial]

a lot of em

there no reason not to get them

plus exotic armors

[waxen ibex]

An exotic being old doesn't make it bad really

There's very few truly bad exotics

[paper reef]

nah theres alot of shit ones ngl

[tepid yew]

If you're on right now, I'll do the mission with you

[steel sundial]

i think for 90% of content pretty much all exotics are at least serviceable

[maiden turtle]

i heard you can focus exotic class items at your ghost in pale heart but i dont see that option am i missing something?

[steel sundial]

you can attune

not focus

you unlock that ability once you have completed dual destiny at least once

[maiden turtle]

damn couldve sworn i did that

[steel sundial]

are you on a different class from the one you completed it on?

[tame hornet]

is there supposed to be a bungo stream today with a banner reward?

[maiden turtle]

ohhhh

[steel sundial]

yep

gotta do it again

[maiden turtle]

ugh thats annoying af

[tame hornet]

when?

[tepid yew]

Class exotic unlock is per character, so you gotta do it at least 3 times

[tepid yew]

Starts in 45 min

[tame hornet]

bet

[paper reef]

yeah but i mean like if ur getting an exotic from kiosk ur not just gonna get one that is alright

ur gonna pick one of the best ones

[steel sundial]

i mean, sure

[tepid yew]

But what if you got all the good ones?

[steel sundial]

i still dont have symmetry

[maiden turtle]

is that even worth it when apparently attuning doesn't apply to Xur

[tepid yew]

You can't buy from Xur until you do it anyway

[steel sundial]

it does

but at decreased effect

instead of being a 100% chance it’s more like a 60% chance

[unborn cloak]

Whats the stream about?

[tepid yew]

Raid race

[unborn cloak]

oh i thought that was tomorrow

[steel sundial]

the race itself is

the stream is today

[tepid yew]

We have partnered with many incredible creators that will cover the race. Evanf1997 and CbGray will kick off the pre-show at 7 AM PT on the Bungie Twitch Channel with some exclusive interviews before the Raid opens up at 10 AM PT.

[steel sundial]

oh the race is today?

huh

[tepid yew]

Wait, this is so confusing

https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_09_25_2025

The epic version of The Desert Perpetual raid will open in two days, on September 27, at 10:00 AM PT

If you watch any Destiny 2 stream for one hour, from September 26 at 6 AM PT to September 28 at 6 AM PT, you will earn the Gnarled Tendrils emblem as a Twitch Drop.

So I guess they're giving away the Twitch Drop if you watch people's prep streams

[waxen ibex]

I think that list is entirely just jade rabbit, centrifuse (imo), prometheus lens, deterministic chaos, darci, black talon, worldline zero, skyburner as far as weapons too lol

And jade rabbit is only there because I think sublimation does the same stuff way better and the whole body shot gimmick doesn't make sense when jade is so forgiving it's almost hard to hit bodyshots

[steel sundial]

JADE RABBIT MY GOAT

💔💔

[waxen ibex]

Yeah it's undeniably just, scout but good stats

[steel sundial]

black talon is also very fun in pvp

[waxen ibex]

I just don't think it's competitive at all anymore unlike how Sturm is

[steel sundial]

same with prometheus

[paper reef]

cant u just use any caster

[waxen ibex]

Or eager edge and get the same range at this point

[steel sundial]

you can use black talon midair

[steel sundial]

nah eagers hit reg is absolutely atrocious

[paper reef]

😍

[waxen ibex]

Black talon will come off the list when gambit has a playerbase bigger than pit of heresy's again

[steel sundial]

gambit prime return in renegades

[paper reef]

black talon aint even that good for gambit bro i swear

eager + izi

[tepid yew]

gambit prime return in Destiny Rising

[paper reef]

bang

[waxen ibex]

Yeah I know eyes of tomorrow exists 💔

[steel sundial]

tbh i think skyburners is the worst exotic in the game bar none

or deterministic

[paper reef]

borealis

[steel sundial]

nah borealis is a perfectly serviceable pvp sniper

[paper reef]

pvp 🤢

[waxen ibex]

Has the pvp niche

[steel sundial]

it also looks and sounds extremely crisp

[waxen ibex]

Arguably the best pvp sniper in stats by a mile

[steel sundial]

skyburners not only sucks but also feels like shit to use

[paper reef]

manticore aswell

that sucks

[steel sundial]

nah pks

[waxen ibex]

No it doesn't

It's genuinely super underrated

Not even the reddit way

[steel sundial]

ngl

lodestar

that thing is

[brittle wing]

Manticore was dog on release but it's like solid now at minimum

As solid as smgs can be..

[steel sundial]

even prospector and the colony are pretty good now

[tepid yew]

mantisnore, wake me up when it gets good

[steel sundial]

prospector lowkey chunks i cant even lie

[waxen ibex]

Hover mode buff on manticore is double damage with auto loading which makes it an incredible PKs pairing and the second fastest super gen smg overall, realistically the fastest because the only better one is riskrunner with an unreasonable amount of buffs

[steel sundial]

plus it gives you the like « turn off enemy aim » button

[waxen ibex]

Also if you have any source of volatile rounds I don't see any other void smg being anywhere as good except for maybe a demoralize Title

So it pops off occasionally with seasonal artifacts

[tepid yew]

SMGs 🛌

[steel sundial]

nahhh yeartide apex the goat

and seraphine haze

[tepid yew]

My one exception is Barrow Dyad

[waxen ibex]

I logged off during the funnelweb empire

[steel sundial]

sigh

funnelweb my goat

we still talk about you

gnawing hunger too

[exotic crest]

My theodolite sometimes shoots out sticky grenades, how do I stop that?

[paper reef]

mag perk

[tepid yew]

Switch the grenade type