Trailmappers

[hard pumice]

probably antimatter can help

[spring oracle]

the second i read that i saw antimatter go offline lol

[hard pumice]

lmao

he probably saw it too and was like "not today"

[spring oracle]

probably just coincidence

[abstract sage]

Does trailmappers have an option for placing down nodes? Basically just a point in space with some data attached to it

[spring oracle]

no idea, maybe something like that could be added in the https://discord.com/channels/296562030624899072/1463163384634540142

[median beacon]

:< can u fix?

[spring oracle]

i do not have enough knowledge to fix it

[median beacon]

TwT

[blazing harbor]

help me gang

i just transformed one of my hexagons into negative space that cant be deleted and it destroys every build it comes into contact with

[median beacon]

ah, the all consuming void, excellent

[blazing harbor]

im gonna hide it in an underground lab somewhere

[compact torrent]

I see no problem

[inner nacelle]

Did you scale the Y axis into the negative?

[blazing harbor]

Nope

What ever i try i cant replicate

[spring oracle]

So it's fixed?

[blazing harbor]

I didnt fix it

I kept it

Its special

[spring oracle]

I've seen that problem when the normals of a 3d model are inverted

[blazing harbor]

As soon as i touch any scale it goes back to normal

[inner nacelle]

This is what I was thinking

[finite stream]

That's so cool

[unborn niche]

Average game development experience:
"oh look a bug"

"What bug? I only see an easter egg"

[median beacon]

@odd sluice antiii pleas help

[blazing harbor]

why is trailmappers failing to load this

[finite stream]

For me trailmakers crashes if I spawn this image in with the custom model

[spring oracle]

is it a trailmappers error or a trailmakers error? (it's probably trailmakers not trailmappers)

[blazing harbor]

idk

just didnt load

[frosty plume]

Make sure the normals are in the correct orientation and that there’s no missing face?

Oh wait that was from ages ago

Apologies XD

[austere aurora]

how do I edit the friction or grip on each model?

[finite stream]

You cant

[unborn niche]

Can't make a gravel trap 💔

[austere aurora]

Loll

Muhehehe

[uncut minnow]

any news on trail mappers revamp?

[tacit rover]

I mean theres radio silence from Ridicolas since he has an actual life lol, so afaik no. Unless someone who has the source code said anything regarding that

[knotty lily]

I have realised the project is a lot more disorganized than i imagined, and i currently also have other things to do.
I dont want to completely give it up yet but i will probaply focus on more interesting stuff for now

[austere aurora]

Been there. zoom out, and quickly box select the entire thing

divide the mesh and export each

I'm mid ground

Have you tried decimating?

[lone bane]

look at the ss it was only 1600 tris
dont think it was model complexity, some weird topo edge case the game didn't like is my guess

anyway i fixed it ages ago

[austere aurora]

Spa francorchamps WIP

[austere aurora]

Lol

[fleet steeple]

how do i add custom objects?

[finite stream]

You need to get your PNG file and your obj file into the custom models folder

[finite stream]

Decent looking

[dreamy inlet]

i wanted to know if theres any limits on model size, not trig or file size, i'm talking about physical size limits as i know this thing is within trig limits and definitely within file size limits

HOW'EVER the model is a brisk 1.3km~

[knotty lily]

Size shouldnt be limited

[spring oracle]

My spa map is around 1.3km and it doesn't crash when exported correctly so I don't think it's the size

[dreamy inlet]

weird

it causes freezing & crashing when i tried to load it

the only other thing i could think is due to it being primarily tunnels, although i did do a earlier test model at a far smaller scale and it was fine but again, small scale

[finite stream]

Try exporting it again it might have been just an unlucky export or smith idk

[deft mango]

Are the roads custom models?

[prime rose]

Nope

Apart from krunch loader stuff there's no custom models in the map

[austere aurora]

This was based off of the 2022 spa francorchamps

[dreamy inlet]

apparently trailmakers didnt like the entry, for some reason, it would not load, UNTIL i changed the entry

even after splitting it up into 5 pieces

[blazing harbor]

Might be the same that happened with the small scourge model

Sometimes the model just wont load

[prime rose]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3679351831

A difficult climb

[vapid stratus]

hello how do i and where do i get the latest trailmappers version from steam?

like the sidebar and stuff dont work

[finite stream]

By downloading the free application from steam

[vapid stratus]

yea i did it and the sidebar just wont show up

[finite stream]

What sidebar

[vapid stratus]

i heard about a sidebar for loading other objects

[finite stream]

I am not sure what you are talking about

[vapid stratus]

i swear i saw a picture of someone having a sidebar that shows the size of the object and official trailmakers objects

[odd sluice]

You mean the bar on the bottom?

[finite stream]

Uh like the legacy builder?

[vapid stratus]

what about loading trailmakers stuff

[odd sluice]

Like the prefabs?

[vapid stratus]

no how to load the satelite dish

[finite stream]

That is a prefab

-# if I'm not mistaken

[vapid stratus]

no the bigass one from airborne

[finite stream]

You cant

[odd sluice]

not all objects are prefabs unfortunately

[vapid stratus]

dang that sucks is there a way to get it into there?

[odd sluice]

-# i really wish the ceiling lights from the main ship on the space map were a prefab

[finite stream]

Having a 3d model of it and using that ig

[odd sluice]

i could do a model but im currently a little busy

if you have time to wait i can get it done for ya

[vapid stratus]

ok

i want to make a dome shaped bunker thats why and i cant save in trailedit

[odd sluice]

You can build a nice dome shaped bunker in trailmappers

[vapid stratus]

how

[odd sluice]

ya build

thrown together quite quickly but you get the idea

[blazing harbor]

Or you can just make that in blender

[austere aurora]

The big torn down one?

I can help with modeling

I have too much free time

[finite stream]

I wish I was you

[austere aurora]

Oof

[finite stream]

Yea xd

[hoary girder]

Does anyone know what the textures tab does? I have no idea how it works

[austere aurora]

can you screenshot?

[austere aurora]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3681587386

cool map

[spring oracle]

I have finished Spa Francorchamps, i might make updates in the future but for now it's done. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3682389868

[spring oracle]

what's this?

[versed moat]

Alignment options

[prime rose]

A group objects thingy along with this would go amazing

[versed moat]

Anyone have a trailmappers save file?

Not an exported save file

I want the one from documents > trailmappers > saves

[lone bane]

i have this one, im assuming you dont want one with custom models

should look like this

[versed moat]

I can take a custom model one aswell but ill need the model aswell

[spring oracle]

my first map

[blazing harbor]

what is this

[deft mango]

what causes this?

it completely breaks when copy and pasting

all the parts get shifted to different areas

[tacit rover]

known issue, you have to reselect and place it again, but sometimes it just freaks out for no reason tbh

[tacit rover]

try to either restart the game or move a bit and try again

[deft mango]

Alrighty

[deft mango]

so what exactly do I do if neither of those methods work

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

it just breaks no matter what I do, which is strange, since it was completely fine earlier today

all I'm doing is resizing it slightly and copying it

[inner nacelle]

Are these separate models of modular house parts?

Maybe it's related to unapplied transforms in each of the models.

You may need to "Apply All Transforms" in Blender to each one then re-export them.

[deft mango]

this isn't a 3d model, it's made from trailmappers assets

I've done this many times in the past and never had this issue before

[inner nacelle]

Have you tried selecting the objects in a different order before copy/pasting?

[deft mango]

I believe so yes

[finite stream]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-guardians-of-the-galaxy2-peter-quill-star-lord-star-lord-what-gif-24549462

Omg now I see it

That's insane

[blazing harbor]

if you duplicate multiple objects after scaling they reeset to their original state

you have to deselct them

and then select them again

[compact canopy]

Learning Blender so I can successfully eventually make fully custom maps in Trailmappers, and I heard I am supposed to do the Dohnut tutorial however I dont know if that is a Good Tutorial to stem into Map Making, does anyone have the answer?

[deft mango]

still happens

Nothing I've tried has been able to prevent it, despite the fact that I had rescaled many times before and this had not happened

I've made many maps in the past, and never had this issue until now

[deft mango]

I can't 3d model for the life of me, that NYC map I did was completely from trailmappers assets too

[deft mango]

is there anything I can do or is my map just permanently buggered?

[finite stream]

It shows you the basics of blender pretty well but you don't have to do the whole tutorial because later on there aren't really that interesting things and you can learn most things from just googling also could you tell what kind of maps are you planning of making

[finite stream]

Well but it was using the white cube asset which theoretically is a 3d model

[finite stream]

Seems like you need to go again

[hoary temple]

Learn UV mapping that is very important for mapping in Trailmappers

[finite stream]

I still need to learn it more cus I suck at it

Anyone got some tutorials for uv mapping

[hoary temple]

I have to learn some more as well I only know its the backbone of custom mapping but i still lack alot of skill

[finite stream]

@austere aurora is probably the best mapper out there when it comes to uv mapping

[austere aurora]

Thanks to my love, project from view 💕

That's literally the only thing I use

Aaand a little bit of cube projection

(most of the work is done by the textures)

[finite stream]

Can you give some tutorials on that

I beg

[austere aurora]

Basically I build my maps around the textures.

[finite stream]

Hm

I will try to practice texturing

I have so many things I wanna do but the time😭 😭 😭

[austere aurora]

You have gimp bro

[finite stream]

Wdym by that

[austere aurora]

For texturing

[finite stream]

Sounds like hell

[austere aurora]

I use Canva. Maybe it's easier

[deft mango]

I was really motivated to get this started 😭

[deft mango]

Seriously, are there no solutions to this?

Because this has kinda just broken the map I was working on

[versed moat]

Try the modified version of trailmappers I released

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YUsnLzJut0C4Z_pxb8--DVPJbT-Pzspg/view?usp=sharing

[hoary temple]

Whats different?

[knotty lily]

Google drive is my favorite platform to download software from

[hoary temple]

It could be the best thing ever or just a zip bomb

[hoary temple]

I guess you are still working on this project?

[compact canopy]

Ok!

[versed moat]

I moved it to the modding discord, since its more of a one-off thing

[odd sluice]

Do they all have the same origin point?

[deft mango]

I believe so yes, I figured out a fix though, I just have to close and reopen the map in trailmappers every time I resize to prevent it from breaking

[odd sluice]

Dang

[deft mango]

It's a pain in the ass but I haven't been able to find any other fix

Quite weird because this never used to happen until yesterday

[odd sluice]

I typically set all of my things in a cluster to the same origin so I can easily move them around as one object

[odd sluice]

I haven't ever seen it happen before either. Once I get home from work Ill try to recreate it and see if I can fix it

[deft mango]

That'd be great 🙏

[versed moat]

If you used the grouping feature in the modified Trailmappers might help

[trim cairn]

Was teh spawnpoint thing removed

Also is the observatory hitbox just always completely screwed

[shadow path]

the most drifted map across all driving sims is coming to trailmakers ::)

[finite stream]

Is it from ac or Smth cus I don't know it

[shadow path]

not a vanilla map of any game, but exist in all of them 🫣

[finite stream]

Huh

[shadow path]

originally created by drifting mapper called CToretto

[finite stream]

Ik him

[finite stream]

I thought this map is more popular

[shadow path]

drift playground ::) awesome map
it is popular, but way less than brooklyn park

[finite stream]

Man I need to play more ac again

[shadow path]

soon you can get that in trailmakers ::) just saying 😍

[stiff ginkgo]

yay

[stiff ginkgo]

how much more time

[stiff ginkgo]

also

i tried your purpl dodge hellcat on steam and its good

[shadow path]

alright things are getting serious
can u guess the track?

[finite stream]

ebizu

thats an eassy one

[inner nacelle]

@magic leaf Were you able to sort out your problem?

[magic leaf]

i mean sorta im pretty sure its pretty much just the alt sensor -100 it seams to be pretty accurate

[inner nacelle]

I've just updated KrunchLoader with bugfixes and a new feature:
#1463163384634540142 message

[magic leaf]

what file type does the custom models need to be? i cant upload custom blueprint pngs into it

[hoary temple]

.obj files for the custom model and .png for the texture

[magic leaf]

ok so could i just convert a blueprint to an obj and then it will work?

[odd sluice]

Or just spawn the blueprint as a structure using the api

[knotty lily]

Converting it to obj seems safer if you dont want to summon 100 bugs

[magic leaf]

i tried and im unable to load the map in trailmapers with it being an obj it instantly crashes

[magic leaf]

what api?

[knotty lily]

The modding api

[knotty lily]

Unable to load the map in trailmappers or in trailmakers?

[magic leaf]

when i have the buildfile in the coustom modles in trailmapers it can load in trailmapers but when i change it to an obj then it just crashed trailmapers

[knotty lily]

How did you convert it to obj in the first place?

[magic leaf]

just converted it lol

[knotty lily]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-oh-really-really-seriously-wow-gif-10414837288951225620

Changing the file extension does NOT change anything about the files content

It just changes how applications will try to interpret the file content. And when trailmappers tries to interpret an png files as if it were a obj (3d mesh) it will crash obviously

[versed moat]

Damn I wish life was that easy

[magic leaf]

yea ik that but i tried it to see if it would work lo clearly it didnt

[finite stream]

I want to dream like you

[magic leaf]

how do i properly uploaded a moded map? i tried it and its not showing up on steam

[magic leaf]

its weird because when i go to steam itself i search the workshop i cant find it but if i go to the in game workshop or steam and look at my uploads i see it

[austere aurora]

Did it say "mod was successfully uploaded" or something?

If it does, where did you check it?

[spring oracle]

yees

[compact canopy]

Would that mean I have to worry about the amount of Polygons more or is that automatically covered by Trailmakers itself?

[spring oracle]

anything over 32000 tris will not load properly

[compact canopy]

hmmm ok, and I also noticed while going around some maps that all of the custom assets seem to be the same glossy white texture. Do all Blender assets do that or is there a way around it so I can have a custom texture on it? I am sorry, I am new to this stuff lol

[spring oracle]

you can have custom textures

[compact canopy]

And it will load in Trailmakers?

[spring oracle]

yes

[compact canopy]

Thanks!!! Now all I gotta do is finish the 4 hour dohnut tutorial then I should be ready to make some maps. is there anything else I am missing before I start?

[spring oracle]

with trailmappers it's really easy to load ed models into the game so definitely have that

[compact canopy]

ok, so I am not missing anything! welp, I should go get started lol. Take Care!!! ❤️

[fervent sun]

you need to be very careful with concave meshes

[compact canopy]

Just a random thought I had, is it possible to put anything Interactable in any maps? I feel like I could use whatever it is a lot

[fervent sun]

you can, but unless it is a default asset you need to modify trailmapper's loader and program it yourself in lua

[magic leaf]

yes it said it was successful and i even had a tried try to fin it but they were only able to find it after going to my steam profile

[knotty lily]

Can you find it by going to your steam profile?

[compact canopy]

Will the Trailmappers UI ever be updated?

[fervent sun]

probably no

[austere aurora]

That's what's supposed to happen. Have you tried filtering by newest in workshop?

[magic leaf]

yea i see the mod in the workshop now ig theres just a massive delay

[odd sluice]

Ive found about 15000 to be the limit in terms of decent load times

And even then fully custom asset maps I try and keep each model under 10000.

For stability and load time reasons

[inner lotus]

Why does my models get offset from their position in trailmappers to trailmakers

[spring oracle]

so in trailmappenrs is fine, but not in tm?

[inner lotus]

Exactly

[austere aurora]

1. Where did you load it
2. Is it flipped/mirrored
3. Is your spawn point correct

[inner lotus]

1.clarify 2. I flipped it so that it’s not inverted since importer things are flipped. 3. What

[magic leaf]

build one of these. it helps me alot to get the correct position for stuff

the colors of the gates correspond to the colors of the axis in trailmappers

[spring oracle]

is red longitude?

[hoary temple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spongebob-meme-24

[magic leaf]

yes

[magic leaf]

showed you how to make it lol

the top green gate is the rotation sometimes youll need to change the amount depending how the part gets spawned in so if the part is spawned in 90 from north its the top reeding -90

[magic leaf]

the logic isnt completely accurate but it just t get it as close as possible then you adjust it how you want

[inner lotus]

Not what I meant, if let’s say I have a scene in blender with the models allready offset to the place I want them to be RELATIVE to each other, and I import them into trailmappers, put the cords of all the models at 0,0,0. Now theyre just offset by the distance they had in blender, and it shows that same thing in trailmappers, when I go to export and start it in trailmakers, all the models are not at the same place at all

[magic leaf]

do you have the models size and position in meters?

[inner lotus]

Also there is a mod that does this way better

[inner lotus]

What?

[magic leaf]

what are you useing for the custom models?

[inner lotus]

Blender

[magic leaf]

what units of mesurement are you useing?

[inner lotus]

Meters?

I think ur missing the issue

[magic leaf]

in blender too?

your saying the models arent having the correct positioning when put into trailmappers right?

[inner lotus]

No, they are consistent between blender and trailmappers, but in trailmakers they are wrong

[magic leaf]

thats what i said

nvm

how exaclty are they wrong then?

like too high up? or not at right cords?

[hidden chasm]

can someone make tell me how i get my blender 3d moddel in to tralmappers?

i want to make an Race trek for evvayone

[magic leaf]

only thing i can think of is incorrect unites or not exporting right

[prime rose]

anyone know the y coordinate in trailmappers of the highest playable point ingame?

[tacit rover]

i think 7500 meters, thats the distance from the 0,0,0 to the despawn border, not 100% sure

[prime rose]

yeah i dont think the coordinates in trailmappers are exactly constant with trailmakers, and even if it is, idk to what scale

[tacit rover]

they are. if you put a white cube on scene, one size unit is one meter, therefore it scaled to whatever direction of 10 would be 10 meters

use that to measure your stuff out

[prime rose]

size unit, got it

thanks alot

[tacit rover]

not sure if this logic applies to other objects tho, it might work for the magnetic cube asset (or whatever the name is) but generally the white cube works the best

[prime rose]

just need the highest point in trailmappers so the cube should do the trick

[magic leaf]

you should make a mod or build a creation that shows the in game cords then you can find it out. i got no clue what the limit is either i never tried

[blazing harbor]

7500m is the mapborder

[magic leaf]

bruh

f you too

[magic leaf]

Map ID Name -- Width -- Height -- Base Height (Y)
WLD_TestZone Test Zone 15000 15000 300
WLD_AirborneIsland Airborne 15000 15000
WLD_Exploration Stranded 4000 4000
WLD_HighSeas High Seas 5000 5000
WLD_KingOfTheHill Dethrone 1100 1200
WLD_RaceIsland Race Island 4000 4000
WLD_Sandbox Treasure Island 2500 2500
WLD_StuntIsland Danger Zone 4000 4000
WLD_TheMoon Space Sector 25000 25000

[lone bane]

i feel like this isnt perfectly accurate
the actual kill borders usually extend to 15000 on almost all maps excluding space map

[stray mason]

how do u transfer a 3d model into trailmappers guys

[finite stream]

Turn it into a obj

Export the texture as a png

Load it into the custom models folder

Drag the model out on to the scene

Now drag the PNG file on to the model

[stray mason]

how do ya export stuff

[finite stream]

I believe you use blender right?

[spring oracle]

If you downloaded the model as a obj you are good to just throw it into trailmappers, but if you downloaded it as a different format you need to import it into a 3d modeling program and then export it as obj

[stray mason]

what do i do to put it in trailamppers😭
-# im completely new to this

[spring oracle]

First open trailmappers

[stray mason]

i have it open

[spring oracle]

Go into a map and make a screenshot so i can guide you

[stray mason]

im stuck at this bit

theres a folder to the right

but when i press it

it just opens my file explorer and i can only view things

[spring oracle]

It should open the file in which you need to put the 3d model

[stray mason]

wdym exactly

[spring oracle]

It should open file explore and it should automatically put you into the file trailmappers stores 3d models, and then you should be able to just drag and drop the 3d model in there

[stray mason]

had to do it manually cuz i think i put it in the wrong folder but im getting somewhere

[stray mason]

ok im kinda stuck now

i cant seem to put to model into trailmappers

[stray mason]

mind if u help a bit

[finite stream]

Is the model in the same folder

[stray mason]

it is now

[finite stream]

Do you see it where the textures are?

[stray mason]

in the some folder as the obj
also it wont let me drag the model into trailmappers :P

[finite stream]

Hmm how many polygons does the model have?

[stray mason]

how many is the limit

[finite stream]

Idk

[spring oracle]

Limit is 32000 triangles for tm, for trailmappers idk

[spring oracle]

Make sure the 3d model has the .obj extension

[stray mason]

I FUCKING DID IT

i have no idea how but i did

[stray mason]

fahh.....

[spring oracle]

the model might have too many trriangles

[odd sluice]

It definitely does

[inner nacelle]

You'd need to load the 3d model file in Blender and reduce polygons. You could try using the 'Decimate' modifier.

[finite stream]

No no that's the bad way

Select all vertices and click "subdivide"

s\

[inner nacelle]

Subdivide? That will increase the amount of faces, edges and vertices. That's the opposite of what is needed.

[finite stream]

Yea that's why I added s\ just that I did a typo and it should be /s

[tacit rover]

or its simply poorly made, the loader hates n-gons, you gotta decimate/optimize that geometry

[magic leaf]

got it i just found that on the mod foroms thing

[vapid stratus]

also im now making a highway map and how do i add textures onto custom models?

[vapid stratus]

ok i did it but its super reflective

[knotty lily]

Lower the opacity of your texture

The alpha channel of the texture is responsible for the shinyness

[finite stream]

Are you trying to add traffic perhaps

[knotty lily]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/384810626595291147/1384925384721698836/GifCapture-202506181757419192.gif ||

[finite stream]

How laggy is this?

[knotty lily]

Wasnt horrible but the biggest issue with it was all the bugs that mods have when spawning player structures

I also didnt care to optimize it as it got clear pretty quickly that these modding api bugs would be a pain to work around

[finite stream]

Hmm oki

I wonder what will come out of this project

[knotty lily]

I have put the project on ice, atleast until the bugs regarding spawning player structures are fixed or i decide to change the scope of the mod

[finite stream]

Understandable

[magic leaf]

what bugs exactly?

[knotty lily]

#1385250615340306523 message

[austere aurora]

How do you make this

[knotty lily]

With code

I make the cars move by always giving the engines a logical always on signal and changing the engines power with my mod. And steer them by applying torque to the front axle wheels

[prime onyx]

chat

how do i make a good terrain road?

[spring oracle]

3d modeling or use jess2005's mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2509484109&searchtext=trackmaker

[prime onyx]

does the mod have terrain roads and not jst man made roads?

[spring oracle]

ohh, you mean that, no it does not

[prime onyx]

dang

[tacit rover]

probably late to this party but i finally got around and figuring out the grass asset lol

all it took was placing a cube in every direction 100 000 meters away from the origin and setting it to non collidable

[inner nacelle]

They fixed that bug. It should work if you just set your grass to non-collision.

[tacit rover]

fucking hell i didnt even try it the old way 😭

i havent played this game for too long it seems

[prime rose]

What asset is that for the grass?

[tacit rover]

custom model

and that round grass rock thing squashed underneath the custom grass blades

[prime rose]

Thanks

[hoary temple]

One quick question, who made the quality of life changes for trailmappers?

[finite stream]

I think terror soul

[tacit rover]

if you mean that new ingame loader that was Krunch, #KrunchLoader

if you mean the regular updates - the drag select, top and side view gizmo and the custom models, that was Ridicolas himself. Me and Jess did the assets in that update. The update after that, that added more assets, might have been Terror soul, i dont remember anymore.

[hoary temple]

Ok, where do i get the newest version from? The last time i got it out of google drive which i cant find anymore

[tacit rover]

its on steam

i dont know about anything newer than that, but i havent been here a while

[versed moat]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YUsnLzJut0C4Z_pxb8--DVPJbT-Pzspg/view?usp=sharing

[hoary temple]

Thank you

[tacit rover]

shit i missed a train with this one, didnt even know this was a thing

[hoary temple]

I have a bug with drag select. Sometimes the selected obj just get a random rotation or teleport to completely new cords

This is the only reason why I dont use this version because it messed up so many things in my maps and I use drag select a lot

[uncut gulch]

I also get that bug. What makes it worse is that it can't be undone.

[austere aurora]

fuck

can anyone help me

I've been working really hard on this Bahrain Circuit map. but today suddenly it crashed trailmakers. idk why, last time I exported was when I added an HD picture whichI thought was the cause,so Ideletedit. but even after I deletedit it still crashed my game. what should I do? I don't want my weeks of work to be thrown away just because of a stupid bug

[finite stream]

Try exporting again until the issue is fixed ig

(export the whole model again)

[austere aurora]

did that 17 times already

[finite stream]

Holy ok then I have no idea

[austere aurora]

Isfd with map making bro

[austere aurora]

Until I find a way I'll move on to making Saudi Arabia's corniche circuit

Or maybe long beach

Idk

[spring oracle]

What changes did you make to the map before exporting it again?

[austere aurora]

I added an hd image. I tested and it crashed. so I removed the hdimage but it stillcrashed. so I removed the whole model and it stillcrashed

[spring oracle]

Did you change any model, applied any modifiers, or anything like that?

[austere aurora]

nope

wait

yes I did, I changed the outer terrain model but then I deleted it

it still crashed

[spring oracle]

Well, i sugest you load one model at a time in trailmakers until you find the one that crashes it

[austere aurora]

damn

[finite stream]

doi

you have a backup

[austere aurora]

Sadly no

[finite stream]

maybe try exporting it as an fbx and then import that fbx and turn it into a obj

[austere aurora]

Why

[spring oracle]

It's most likely a problem with the geometry, not exporting stuff.

[finite stream]

But why did it then work before All the stuff was added