Console Downpour Issues/Bugs (SWITCH AUDIO BUGS)

[honest ether]

We don't actually have access to their stuff, so we don't know for sure. Really.

The difference between unified and not would just be if they support building the game for all platforms on one main repo, or if they need to switch and potentially merge and fix conflicting changes.

[radiant coral]

30 more days til the 1 Year Anniversary of the last Console Patch™ . Let's GO!!!!

[short parrot]

wholesome 🤗

[near atlas]

Sooo anything about this or is switch ver just fucked till mar 28

[sleek trench]

praying that maybe someday they’ll add a mod list for console like path of Titans

[honest ether]

I don't believe this is true. Unless there's actual evidence. The chieftain passage works as normal, plus the way this bug would manifest as -100, 0, or 100, doesn't really make much sense.

[faint zephyr]

Yeah I'm skeptical about that.

[near atlas]

I've seen it as true for monk

Lizards can be tamed VERY easily as monk on switch

[tiny imp]

Isn't that normal for Monk? Higher reputation leads to easier tames

[languid anchor]

^
also lizards arent super hard to tame in general in my experience

[terse karma]

Each lizard has diff necessities for taming so it depends

Like for pink or gren lizards u only need to feed them once or twice but a red liz needs 5-12 feedings dependibg on rep and stuff

[tiny imp]

Also depends on personality

[honest ether]

Yeah usually a single noot baby does the job. But that's kind of the point for Monk.

You might need two for Survivor

The hypothesis for -100, 0, and 100 would more likely incur that both Survivor and Monk would max reputation upon feeding the lizard, no?

I could definitively find out if I did some memory searching in the game while running on my modded Switch.

But I'm lazy.

The effort would require me to find specific values and whatnot associated with each rep score. In a sea of billions of numbers.

[glass mantle]

im in the first shelter right inside the gate to GW from IC and when i try to go down into main GW it crashes but it works when i go through the gate back into IC

[terse karma]

Turn off jolly co-op or turn on the hud for it

[glass mantle]

thx it worked

[tiny imp]

Erm you mean HI not IC 🤓

[honest ether]

1.9.13

[short parrot]

Bugs make me feel 'Fine'
When I see a bug I say 'Nothing'

[honest ether]

I'm a bug, don't mind me.

UNEXPECTED BEHAVIOUR!

[near atlas]

There was a 1-2 lizards I dont even remember feeding following me

Maybe I'm just not used to the luxuries of the monk playstyle

[honest ether]

Maybe you killed something attacking them, or left food that they then ate

[near atlas]

But it felt very abnormal even for monk. That didn't hapoen at all in my first monk playthrough a few years ago

[faint zephyr]

I guess it's safe to say we won't get a patch until Watcher now

I don't know if you've heard of it, but the game Nine Sols has gotten 7 patches on steam in the last month in preparation for their upcoming console release. It's just really obvious how much of difference there is between that and what rain world has been receiving

[radiant coral]

to add to this; the game Another Crab's Treasure keeps getting updates to steam then later consoles, idr how many and its been a bit but it has been a good amount of updates but the devs of ACT said before they add ng+ or even think of adding dlc that they want to make sure both pc and consoles are optimized and as bug free as possible before ng+ or possible dlc is released, so yea the difference between what rain word has been receiving and xyz indie game doesn't surprise me

[honest ether]

The GTA Trilogy, that everybody hated, that came out 3 years ago, is still getting updates fixing things.

Though I think they sacked the original studio.

[sleek trench]

not to mention that Minos birds are (and likely have been) HORRIBLY game breaking

[tiny imp]

I forgot that the Miros Vultures still only attack the slugcat in the console patch

[formal plinth]

Did the developers said anything about working on the console patch or did they forgot about us?

[sleek trench]

as much as I know it’s been complete silence

[tiny imp]

Wait til Watcher

Comes out at the same time as PC

[faint zephyr]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[sleek trench]

even then watcher isn’t out for a good couple months

[tiny imp]

Yeah

[honest ether]

I haven't even really played the game in a while. So it'll be good to get fixes with Watcher. Hopefully they just don't break it all again.

I'll need to update my 60fps patch.

[short parrot]

same, if it's broken it doesn't motivate me to play especially if it hasn't been patched at all in over a year

[formal plinth]

I hope the patch is going to be a separate thing and isn't included in the Watcher dlc because if the Watcher is going to have a price (I assume, I'm not sure), we'll be basically paying for the patch.

[radiant coral]

I think when downpour was released on consoles it was there in the remix menu when you updated the game but you couldn't use it till you bought it, so mostly likely it'll be the same with the watcher so no $5 patch hopefully

[terse karma]

Though tbf some fixes are paywalled behind Downpour, like fixing the scav toll in the LF-SU gate area.
Some could say that's not a bug but it's a huge QOL fix since entering on the left side half of the time makes the scavs register you as not paying the toll

[tiny imp]

Erm actually its LF-SU

But yeah that was quite a weird thing to paywall

I think some of the added rooms should've been in Remix so it can be toggled off

[terse karma]

I forgor farm arrays thing time to edit

Thanki

[terse karma]

Yeah. Like maybe where the Vanilla Exploits are on the remix menu

[tiny imp]

Would be hard to make rooms a toggle in remix as afaik no one has done that

yet

[terse karma]

hmm true

Idk

[faint zephyr]

And the SI room where the player is literally off screen during a platforming section

It would’ve been nice

[terse karma]

Ong I forgot about that area... yeah, sucks these are behind paywalls because like wtf 😭

[faint zephyr]

I'm curious. How many of you are going to get the watcher dlc immediately on consoles and how many of you are going to wait at least a little bit to make sure the game is stable

[terse karma]

I have pc downpour now so now I won't be buying Watcher on switch

[radiant coral]

I wanna get it on both PS5 and switch but I'm going to wait a week or 2 before I even buy it on one of them

[faint zephyr]

I will probably get it day 1 because I can't help myself

I will just have to hope there are no critical bugs like last time

[tiny imp]

I wish you console fellers the best when Watcher drops

Hope updates don't take a year

again

[honest ether]

I think this time you can have a little more confidence in the game functioning. Afaik Downpour was a case of the console versions moving over to the PC codebase, which had been gutted and exploded and turned inside out and patched together for the purposes of being multiplatform, and it took a while to fix those introduced bugs (that were also brought to PC), so with Watcher the cumulative PC fixes will be included for console and stability should hopefully be better.

Ig the good thing about the Downpour console bugs is they weren't all platform specific. A bug with Jolly Co-Op causes the same crash on Switch, Xbox, and PlayStation. Music and sfx are wigged out on all(PC too) platforms at current? These things should all be fixed in tandem.

[faint zephyr]

Plus the fact that we are getting console and PC at the same time and the fact that we have not gotten a patch in a while means that the console port team has probably been planning ahead to make sure it works on release

[sleek trench]

512 days since our last update :(

[radiant coral]

And 51 more days til the next update hopefully

[lapis pewter]

I think the chances of there being a patch on release when the watcher DLC launches is very high to 99% even. I would think they've learned from their mistakes and try to make sure the watcher DLC is actually completely functional. I can understand they were in a huge rush trying to get DP out on consoles, because let's be honest, most of us weren't the most patient crowd. Akupara normally also has a good track record with keeping ports updated (I think). That paired with the fact that we still haven't had a patch for almost a year and a half (!!) could very well mean they're just saving a masterpatch for when the watcher drops (even though it contradicts itself). It really isn't the best way to handle this situation, but I'm just happy if we FINALLY just get some kind of patch that gets us back to parity with the PC version. Maybe, just maybe the ports will truly be in a good enough state to be considered "fixed".

And 1 huge update is easier to send out than multiple smaller ones.

[pliant wren]

Good lord this thread is longer than all of my fp's combined

[tiny imp]

Yeeks will freeze your game when Watcher drops

[honest ether]

Keep in mind that Akupara does work on many games. I'm under the assumption the lack of updates for console Rain World is due to Akupara reallocating their standby development resources to other projects for the time being. A long time between updates doesn't necessarily mean the patch changelog will be that big.

Watcher on console will at the least contain the latest PC fixes.

[radiant coral]

||slugcats|| will crash your game when the watcher drops

[white phoenix]

i won't be surprised if one patch come before the dlc

[faint zephyr]

I would

Like, if they had a patch in the works, surely we would've got it by now?

[white phoenix]

they may want to wait for a more polished version of the game, which will serve as a test before the release of the dlc on pc and console, to facilitate the release

idk

[faint zephyr]

"We have multiple updates planned, and the final arc of the Watcher will conclude with the console release, at a date TBD."

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-death-stare-arar-epicducc-actually-though-pls-die-gif-17633229085369133156

it's NOT coming at the same time as pc?

[terse karma]

RIP Console players

[lapis pewter]

We're not getting this long awaited patch anytime soon 😭

Not again, a year-long wait.

[radiant coral]

Not surprised

[lapis pewter]

It was incredibly misleading though, having console logos on the trailer.

But, in their defense, I suppose it could have just been because they wanted to show us we weren't forgotten.

[lapis pewter]

Okay, after doing some research, it seems that the devs told us watcher would release on all platforms on the airframe ultra stream (need confirmation). Which means it's been delayed. And... I'm actually happy about it. I'd rather have something solid than a rushed project after all. A patch is needed though for the current state of RW.

[radiant coral]

"than a rushed project" aka downpour on consoles

[lapis pewter]

Indeed, wouldn't want to be having that happen again.

[tiny imp]

Wasn't it going to launch with PC though?

Like I swear they said that

[lapis pewter]

So it was true.
Yes, they did say it on stream.

[pliant wren]

Yay we get our Watcher with pc we don't have to wait

[sleek trench]

Lucky

[pliant wren]

Qhar

What
No not what I meant

We (console people) get Watcher with the pc launch?

[pliant wren]

Not what I meant

I'm a console gamer through and through, but like I thought we got the Watcher with pc?

[radiant coral]

"We have multiple updates planned, and the final arc of the Watcher will conclude with the console release, at a date TBD."; we ain't getting it on the 28th

[pliant wren]

Oh damn

I read that wrong

[lapis pewter]

And the fact that there's still going to be a couple updates in between tells me it isn't going to be a short wait either 😭

[honest ether]

Homebrew port Watcher to console

Decompiled Unity executable

[sleek trench]

i’d say three months at least and a year at most

[lapis pewter]

It can't be too bad if the delay was made this close to the release. But yeah, it's going to be a wait.

[faint zephyr]

and console downpour was, what, half a year after? we should be fine

the cope

[honest ether]

I guess I'll be playing Watcher on my... Switch 2?

Well, that's if Akupara gives it a 60fps patch around launch.

[radiant coral]

Imagine if the console release will be on October 31st, a whole 2 years since the last console update

[tiny imp]

...Switch plays below 60?

[honest ether]

Yes. At 30

You can patch it to run at 60. But you need a CPU overclock to hold it at that for a lot of areas.

[tiny imp]

30fps is criminal

All it needs is 4 RAM on PC

and even a bit lower you can still achieve 60

[honest ether]

?

It's not a RAM issue

Switch version is only using like 1.4GB of the 3.2 the system allocates.

The game is just rather CPU bound, and seemingly heavily reliant on single core performance.

Both of those things the Switch is not at all good at with default clockspeeds.

[tiny imp]

Oh

[honest ether]

A Switch 2 should perform way better in terms of single core, given the advances in ARM processors in recent years.

But I guess we should wait and see what Nintendo is using.

[lapis pewter]

Has this board not showing any red symbols ever been fixed on PC? I remember it also not working on PC. Though, maybe it got fixed in like the ||MLL|| crash patch or something? If yes, well... console really needs that (year) long awaited patch.

I really hope it arrives before watcher's console release, but I feel like it won't, and that's pretty insane.

||Inv|| will stay literally unplayable it seems like (maybe that's a good thing, tbh).

Has the audio even been fully fixed yet??? The main theme is still not looping on the title screen, so I'm guessing no.

[radiant coral]

How will ||inv|| be unplayable? I never had a problem with them bug wise.

[lapis pewter]

Sorry, meant FP route.

MLL's constantly freeze the game, unfortunately.

[radiant coral]

You mean getting ||inv|| to 5p is impossible rn?

[lapis pewter]

Pretty sure, yes.

At least I haven't been able to do so.

Even after having to close and reopen the game 10 or so times.

[radiant coral]

Squidcada starve flight up the wall, that's how I did it

[pliant wren]

My game crashes every few minutes as ||Inv|| I can't even get out of Shaded

[tiny imp]

I don't think MLLs were ever an issue on PC

At least not that I know of

I was there pretty early

[faint zephyr]

It was. #rainworld-news message "Fixed a frequent game crash when Mother Long Legs are present in rooms."

Which, y'know, it's why we're so surprised it's not fixed on console yet

[pliant wren]

Y'all genuine question for smart people (all of you)
When I try to play Enot, the game crashes before I'm able to hibernate and I lose all my karma.
I cannot escape Shaded bc of this. Is there a way to fix it?

[honest ether]

Do you have Jolly Co-Op enabled?

Try disabling it if so.

[pliant wren]

I do not
I only have Expedition, MSC, and Remix enabled (with configuration for rwsc when I need them bc I'm too lazy to go back and forth and change them again and again)

So I have the rwsc remix settings but other than that nothing else is enabled besides what should

[lapis pewter]

We have not been forgotten (even when I didn't think we were anyways)! They're still giving out console version prizes for the drawing event.

We might have known that already, but just saying.

Really hope that patch didn't get delayed with the DLC.

[tiny imp]

LOL!

[radiant coral]

The patch will be released when the dlc does, them giving the console versions as prizes doesn't mean that the patch for consoles and the dlc are going to be separate

[honest ether]

If anything. The physical release is probably not latest

[faint zephyr]

Sanshee giveaway winners beware

[lapis pewter]

Just checked, and loading tips also aren't fixed yet. They don't even show up.

I really hope they thoroughly checked all the bug reports, because some of these are a bit obscure, but annoying.

[lapis pewter]

Nevermind, it works on the starter slugcats which seems intentional.

[terse karma]

Yeah loading screen tips is meant for only monk and survivor

[lapis pewter]

9 more days...

[pliant wren]

For pc

[lapis pewter]

And we maybe, juuust maybe get a patch.

[lapis pewter]

Yeah 😭

[pliant wren]

Hopefully makes ||Inv|| playable for me

[lapis pewter]

Same.

[pliant wren]

I can't get out of SC my game keeps crashing when I get food as them

[lapis pewter]

Can't go 2 regions without it becoming unplayable.

Can't get out of FP, MLLs freeze up the whole area.

[pliant wren]

I can't even leave the starting area for three dens then crashes when I eat

[lapis pewter]

Have you tried going to another gate?

Oh, dens even.

I kinda understand|| Inv ||glitching up because it's an absolute lagfest, but that's extreme.

[pliant wren]

It's like 30 seconds after I consume game crashes

[lapis pewter]

Starving?

[pliant wren]

Can't

[lapis pewter]

How so?

[pliant wren]

Sometimes crashes instantly after eating too

[pliant wren]

I can't get food, without the game crashing
If I eat it's a ticking time bomb till it crashes

[lapis pewter]

You don't have to eat to starve though.

[pliant wren]

You don't?

I thought you needed a minimum of one food pips

[lapis pewter]

I would not have known that, have you tried it?

[pliant wren]

Can't starve on an empty stomach, die immediately with no food pips

*if you try to starve

[lapis pewter]

Oh damn, I always thought you died only after starving twice.

Didn't know this was a method too.

And dying after eating is really strange too. Which platform are you on?

[pliant wren]

Xbox

I don't die, my game fully crashes

Closes me out of the game fully

[lapis pewter]

That's indeed very annoying.
Have you tried starting a new inv playthrough?

[pliant wren]

Not yet, as I barely was able to get to the first den in SC
May as well try tho

[lapis pewter]

Yeah, that's unfortunate.
But if you weren't too far, it should be fine.

[pliant wren]

True, praying they make Inv actually playable💔

[lapis pewter]

I am craving that so called "masterpatch".

[pliant wren]

[lapis pewter]

That fixes so many things.

[pliant wren]

We need it

[lapis pewter]

They fixed a lot of bugs throughout our wait.

And most are what stop us from completing ||inv||.

Audio isn't totally fixed yet either.

Sundown can't even loop for me.

[pliant wren]

Sundown is... what plays when you open the game?

[lapis pewter]

Yes!

[pliant wren]

Doesn't loop for me either, I like the rain sounds🙂

[lapis pewter]

True! But... it sounds unnerving having the occasional creature sound on a mostly mute title screen 😬

[pliant wren]

True

I know of a temporary fix to bring the music back though!!!

Go into settings (or some menu not Expedition) and go back to the menu

Won't loop, but still

[lapis pewter]

Yeah, tweaking the toggle bar for SFX and music also works.

That's what we had to do to start any music when DP released on console even.

It was a... buggy release to say the least.

But they're slowly building it back up.

The lag must be studied though.

[pliant wren]

[lapis pewter]

Ok everyone, I have a hopium-infused theory; They said they had multiple updates planned before watcher releases on console. Could it be that... these updates include the console versions

But I suppose that would be impractical, considering they would need to push updates through the verification process multiple times.

[honest ether]

I'm guessing they just want to wait until the last Watcher patch to QA the whole thing for console. It'd probably be cheaper.

Since hopefully they learned their lesson from Downpour

[lapis pewter]

Do yeeks have different shades of color on switch?

[pliant wren]

Shouldn't?

[lapis pewter]

I haven't really noticed any other than the red variant.

[terse karma]

If you mean their normal color spectrum I'd assume so

[lapis pewter]

Weird... I swear I haven't seen the blue ones.

The ||winter variants|| do appear in saint.

I'll test it out in arena.

Ok!

Spawned in 20 yeeks, none had a different color than red.

They could have a darker skin color, but not those glowy bits.

[lapis pewter]

Can anybody confirm this isn't how it's supposed to be?
I have no idea if this is intentional or not.

[pliant wren]

It's not supposed to be like that

[lapis pewter]

some videos have them all red, others have them in different colors.

I wonder why that's the case, but I'm filing a report anyways.

[pliant wren]

Mine are different colors, I'm on Xbox tho so

[lapis pewter]

Found the possible cause, the "yeek fix" mod added different color variations and fixed their behavior. Later it was integrated as an official update into game. There's a possibility it...

1. Hasn't arrived on switch, somehow.
2. Doesn't work on switch.

What further supports this theory is that they're still just mindlessly jumping on switch, I'm pretty sure.

Which is what the mod tried to fix.

[terse karma]

I had no idea i thought their normal colors were just red bonk

[lapis pewter]

Oh, you have the same "issue"?

[terse karma]

I did on switch yes

I remember on switch aside from Saint variants being winterified correctly they were all orange

[lapis pewter]

Yep, that's the one!

It has to do with a mod that seemingly hasn't been incorporated yet.

[terse karma]

Yeah damn, I never knew yeeks were supposed to have more than just orange coloration! I play with Emerald's Shinies on a lot so I always just assumed that those colors were only avail thru modding like that

[pliant wren]

They mindlessly jump on Xbox too

[lapis pewter]

Well, they definitely jump! It's just, with the mod on, they tend to also do small hops, leaps, climb poles, etc...

[pliant wren]

They only time I've seen them do anythin OTHER than jump, is in challenges

[faint zephyr]

I don't know if anyone else has encountered this, but I had disabled msc on switch and then played expedition, and if you had perks and burdens on, they will still be on

it didn't allow you to disable them unless you turned msc back on

the only things I noticed worked without msc was double spears and the pursued burden, but I didn't try everything

I don't know if that's also a problem with pc, since probably nobody downgrades to play expedition

[lapis pewter]

I didn't even know expedition was playable without msc on?

Like, isn't it meant to only be compatible with msc?

You know, the DLC music, DLC perks, DLC... everything.
If it was meant to playable on vanilla, that would remove most features, perks and burdens imo.

[terse karma]

No, it's meant to also be compatible without DLC on. It's def weirder but yk!

[lapis pewter]

Interesting! I would imagine it has way less features though, without msc.

The problem is probably that the game doesn't know what to do and completely bugs out when you have msc stuff enabled in vanilla, which disallows you to change the toggles (because it wouldn't be able to toggle it in the first place).

[faint zephyr]

On each of the first 3 days of the watcher's release it rained where I live. This is some form of complex torture

[pliant wren]

Same

[formal plinth]

Any news if they are going to release a patch for downpour on console?

[runic slate]

Nope

[formal plinth]

Damn, that sucks.

[radiant coral]

Can't wait for the $15 patch coming in the distant future

[white phoenix]

[honest ether]

Load Linux on my Switch and play PC Rain World through Box86

[white phoenix]

game is 64 bits now

switch is compatible ?

[honest ether]

Do you mean is Switch 64-bit?

Yeah it runs arm64

[formal plinth]

Lol, imagine that. Although it wouldn't be fair, right?

[lapis pewter]

Well, they're going to have to release some kind of patch on the watcher console release date. When is that? Hopefully shorter than the wait for downpour (A couple months).

[terse karma]

10 years /j

[lapis pewter]

Why /j when it's true 😭

[terse karma]

Because it's actually going to be 9.99 years

So just under 10

[formal plinth]

Hopefully they release the patch as a simple update soon tbh.

[lapis pewter]

I sadly doubt it.
They would save time and money releasing 1 big one along with watcher.:

[radiant coral]

My guess on the console release date: ||March 28th 2026||

[faint zephyr]

nah it'll be announced during tomorrow's switch 2 direct

[terse karma]

Wrong, will be announced during the switch 3 direct 2035 /J

[honest ether]

Rain World running at a smooth 46fps on Switch 2

[white phoenix]

with dlss and framegen

300 fps rain world

[faint zephyr]

no rain world news in the switch 2 direct

worst direct ever

[faint zephyr]

Rain world was not mentioned in the game compatibility issues list, which either means it works fine or they didn't test it at all

[pliant wren]

[radiant coral]

"within 6 months"

[pliant wren]

Still

Huge news

[lapis pewter]

I am honestly really happy about that.

That's at most 6 months, half a year.

BUT

It seems the switch version might possibly be pushed back, which is really, REALLY unfortunate. Wouldn't want that to happen in any case.

[pliant wren]

It's still big news for us

Either way

I'm happy they gave us a time frame to watch for!!!

[faint zephyr]

I'm mostly glad they said anything at all this close to the release

super happy about that

I thought they'd make us wait until after the post-release content was complete

[lapis pewter]

Exactly!

[pliant wren]

We aren't forgotten until post release for once🥹

[lapis pewter]

But yeah, hopefully nothing gets delayed, considering how DP pulled it off.

Mostly, but there's room for improvement.

[radiant coral]

Yep, it's definitely going to be something to Watch out for

[honest ether]

It'd be sick if they could hit 120fps

The GPU could do it easily. But I don't know if Switch 2 will have the single core performance for it

[honest ether]

Very happy about the transparency

[lapis pewter]

I think it should be able to at least reach 60FPS.
And if it's really pushing it, maybe a constant 30FPS, even though this should not be the case on a console like that.

I mean, if it can run elden ring, rain world needs to run at 60FPS.

But I'm pretty sure they still need to update the game to let it run at 60.

[formal plinth]

I'm quite glad that they haven't forgotten about us.

At this point I was thinking that we were never going to get a patch, glad I was wrong.

[pliant wren]

Hey chat, this might be a common issue for Rivulet, but game froze multiple times in ||RM|| and I've heard it's caused by ||MLL's|| but none were on the screen I froze on, and the one time I did freeze with one on screen I was able to fix it so I'm confused

Sc for proof or helping or smth

I play on Xbox but I doubt that affects anything

[iron wedge]

yep, this happens when an MLL leg intersects over 100 tiles

no fix besides waiting for the next console update

[pliant wren]

Alright, thanks

[lapis pewter]

You know... I'm starting to think the console release got delayed because they wanted to make sure all the on-release bugs were patched. And honestly, I'm here for it.

I'm seeing some game-breaking bugs that would've taken weeks or months for it to be patched.

[faint zephyr]

That's fair. I don't think it's nearly as easy to publish a patch for a console game than for a steam game as well, so when they do get fixed, it won't necessarily be sent out right away

[pliant wren]

[tiny imp]

There's also the creature tweaks

[white phoenix]

i head some devs says that updates are paid on console

so lowering the update rate or sending the right patch at the right time makes sense here

[short parrot]

it's over

[lapis pewter]

No way José.
That would be crazy, April fools was a month ago (almost) 😭

I need to see evidence for that statement.

[faint zephyr]

he means the developers need to pay to publish an update

[faint zephyr]

I don't think this is the case anymore though

[sleek trench]

come on guys we’re halfway through the wait I believe in us

[white phoenix]

[faint zephyr]

Almost 1 month left…?

[sleek trench]

let’s hope so

[light hedge]

Yeah I used to be a console player so I feel for you all… wish you all the best! Also peanut touch

[sleek trench]

thank you also what the fart is peanut Touch???

[light hedge]

#ogspore-containment-facility

[pliant wren]

No access

[white phoenix]

no peanut for yo

[faint zephyr]

9/25 everybody!

[short parrot]

ok but will there also be a patch for those that don't get the watcher dlc?

because the base game + downpour is still broken

[honest ether]

Yes there will be a patch

The game needs to be updated to support DLC anyway. So they'll at the least merge the latest PC update, which contains fixes for console

[short parrot]

ok

[tiny imp]

No get your money up

[flint birch]

Im still wondering how you take a pristine smooth game to corrupted saves, frame drops and crashes

Actually I know the answer 🤑

[pliant wren]

[honest ether]

They've made the game really big again in the latest update

It was 2.2GB before Downpour, then 3.0GB after, now it's 4.0GB coming up to Watcher. They've previously released updates to remove unused data.

[honest ether]

I appreciate the music triggers working now tho. As long as the Downpour content is fixed soon

[flint birch]

Is it true that Joar Jakobsson isnt even at the helm anymore? This is new info to me if its true

Are the new games, the dlc, the watcher, made by a team of modders?

[terse karma]

Idk about Joar but I know some of the original team such as James is working on Watcher. Downpour was entirely modders tho

[honest ether]

@lone willow Switch Downpour DLC has been updated and is working ingame

The Challenges screen in Arena just doesn't seem to work tho

[honest ether]

Safari seems to work better now

Vultures can be controlled and fly off screen without crashing

Nevermind it just crashed

[wintry swallow]

why are you lying

it's still the same

[honest ether]

I got a 2.2GB download that updated my Downpour

And I can play the campaigns fine

In 1.11.0

Make sure to initiate the update

[wintry swallow]

how can I do that?

[honest ether]

On the Switch home screen press the + button while hovering over Rain World. Then find the Software Update tab, and press Via the Internet

[wintry swallow]

ohh, I'll check it out, thank you! I was a bit confused because the base game update installed itself automatically

[wintry swallow]

This seems to be the only thing broken for now. I haven't experienced any crashes (though they were happening even before the update occasionally), but I encountered some severe framerate drops im situations that ran smoothly before.

[short parrot]

What all does the watcher dlc add? ||I see that there are new creatures and locations but what about anything in arena? Does it allow you to spawn the new creatures? Is there more arena maps added like with downpour?||

[terse karma]

Currently, || I believe all are unlocked in arena or none are there, can't remember if its a mod to have them. As for arena maps, none. If this next update adds them, then this will be disregarded. ||

[honest ether]

Huh. I just loaded the game on my Switch 1, fully updated, and it seemingly is still broken as if the DLC is still incompatible? I'm unsure if this is a one time bug

On Switch 2 this save loads just fine with Saint

They're both up to date

Maybe Nintendo's CDN is only letting Switch 2 download the DLC update

These are Downpour rooms tho, so idk if it's just a weird bug

I was just simply trying to do a performance comparison, since Switch 2 was somewhat choppy in some rooms

I might update my 60fps patch to 1.11.0, or maybe wait until a hotfix because they can't leave Challenges broken

Hoping they make 60fps available on Switch 2 🤞

[wintry swallow]

on my switch 1 it's ok. but I can't complete Artis campaign, it crashed twice at the end

[naive fiber]

press + on the game icon and try force a software update, just in case?

[wintry swallow]

read previous messages

[naive fiber]

i did

but also i was just hoping it could be a fluke

[naive fiber]

(actually the problem was i didn’t notice there were multiple people, i wasn’t actually responding to the artificer thing)

[wintry swallow]

I know, but the other person was the one that mentioned how to update the game first, and you told them to update the game

[radiant coral]

Same thing happens on the PS4 version, invisible slugcat, try to leave shelter, gets soft locked. Then I tried to go into arti's completed campaign and it was stuck in loading hell, then tried to go into monk and survivor's completed campaigns and it crashed, tried to go into arena to see if the mml still freezes the game, loading hell; PS5 however, seemingly works fine, went into survivor's completed campaign and nothing happened, went into monk and arti's campaign and there was no invisible slugcat and leaving the room doesn't soft lock you, and arena works fine, so in conclusion rain world on consoles is still broken as ever

[lapis pewter]

Alright, so... is DP still insanely broken?

Collections and arena just don't want to start up with DP on.

So I have not tried playing any campaign.

Losing all my progress is the last thing I want happening.

On switch.

[wintry swallow]

did you try forcing an update?

[radiant coral]

There isn't even a PS4 version of the watcher even though it shows up in the remix menu for it

[errant pasture]

Yeah same, theres no ps4 vers...

Which is annoying cause ps4 is a way more stable port

[pine zenith]

Bro

I dont even own the watcher dlc

[restive minnow]

downpour is just broken rn

sadly

[radiant coral]

After applying the watcher on the PS5 version, all dp and vanilla campaigns still work, arena is fine, and the watcher works fine so far

[restive minnow]

ye

[faint zephyr]

Jus saw the changelog. Arena support has indeed just been added in 1.5

[radiant coral]

Watch it make me pay for the PS4 version when it's finally there

[errant pasture]

Yeah im gonna wait a few days i think..

[lapis pewter]

Well, I got 2 updates back to back today.

No idea how many more are supposed to come, but alright.

[glossy wyvern]

ON PS4: I got the 1.15 update, then uninstalled and reinstalled the game and ingame is still 1.11, the Watcher campaign is unplayable despite this. But I didn't have to remove all the mods this time.. Progress I guess.
Get a freeze at the first shelter in industrial complex, followed by a white screen, and the campaign won't launch anymore.
I can't be bothered to see if I have the same problem at another shelter in the area. I didn't pay €15 to be a beta tester, but frankly, I'm very disappointed... This launch is a shame

[radiant coral]

Expedition is broken again for the PS5 version

[radiant coral]

Shows up if you look for it on the app if you chose the PS4 version and look for the add-ons, and oh look at that dp isn't listed for the ps4 and it's trying to make me pay for it again

[tiny imp]

I see that they definitely tested the console ports 👀

[rocky flame]

That happens to me too, when I sleep the bunker appears with a red filter and the screen freezes and when I re-enter the campaign it turns white

Honestly, I know that the watcher DLC has just come out on console, but I hoped that at least the errors wouldn't be so common and wouldn't let you play the game.

[radiant coral]

By the time they fix it and I still have to pay for the PS4 version of the watcher I might buy it again, but only if it gets fixed

[near atlas]

Haven’t checked switch, did they fix it

[tiny imp]

Pretty inexcusable for a paid dlc

[next gazelle]

Yeah ship it surely there are no bugs in it

I want my money back

3 days since launch and nobdy has even addressed that the games unplayable

[faint zephyr]

ok is it, like, legitimately unplayable on switch cause I made a commitment to a friend to play it with him so I can't play it to check myself

[honest ether]

The 1.11.0 is fine but not perfect. Only issue I see is Challenges screen doesn't work at all and crashes.

The Downpour update was pushed and it works fine. I can play campaigns. It's slightly less buggy than before, just one glaring issue

Safari still crashes

Some sound effects are still borked

Bomb explosion ringing, and shelter sounds especially

I don't know about The Watcher tho, I cannot download it as it's not listed on the eShop for my region yet

I haven't tried Jolly Co-op, it crashed quite frequently before. So I might test it out

Other crashes like MLL crash don't seem to occur now. So campaigns like Rivulet should be playable now on latest patch

The cutscenes are still kind of laggy, even on Switch 2, which they never were prior to Downpour. Causing the music to desync from the visuals

This is all in reference to Nintendo Switch, as @faint zephyr has asked.

All in all I'll argue the game is more playable than it was before

I just wish for the game to be refined properly, and all features accessible

(And please 60fps for Switch 2)

Even if they don't have devkits they can just put it in settings

Shelter crashes seem resolved, Jolly Co-op is usable now. I had a save locked in Pipeyard due to a crash on loading into a shelter, and it was resolved by this update.

Jolly Co-op enabled gameplay

[flint birch]

I hope they don't just abandon the game with all the bugs and can get the game back to the way things were

[scarlet tinsel]

They didn’t post anything ?

[flint birch]

If you mean acknowledging all the bugs and glitches, no

They didnt acknowledge all the downpour breakages when that was new so better not to hold your breath expecting a response

Theyre too busy making jokes on twitter

[scarlet tinsel]

Fr I saw

[spice quail]

playing on switch
starting invisible
leaving the shelter causes me to eternally stuck in some hybridization of a slugcat stuck in the room transition due to the pipe landing them into the room geometry of the next room
can't even exit the campaign normally because none of the controller buttons do anything within the game
collection and arena send my entire switch to hell
expedition looks like a creepypasta
i sure do love rain world

[short parrot]

pain world

[rocky flame]

I still can't sleep in a bunker 😭

[honest ether]

Update your game

[rocky flame]

Could someone please fix the bunker issue on PS5? I've already checked for updates and it's the same. I reset the data because it won't let me play other campaigns due to that error.

[faint zephyr]

check for updates!

[spice quail]

yeah i did that fixed it thx

[scarlet tinsel]

Yeah it’s cooked

[formal plinth]

I'm not sure if you tried it before, or if it will work with this case. But try to uninstall and reinstall the game.

I had other issues with the game after the update, and by uninstalling and reinstalling the game somehow worked for me at least.

[scarlet tinsel]

Your in ps5?

[formal plinth]

My game is the PS4 version, I transferred my data from my PS4 to my PS5.

I'm not sure if it will work for PS5, but I would give it a try to see if by uninstalling and reinstalling it will do the trick.

[rocky flame]

I already tried it and it still doesn't work.

[pine fable]

Bro

At least ur campaign don't crash ur game whenever you try to go explore a biome you already been in

I'm fucking trapped in Pillar Grove

(PS5 player)

[formal plinth]

Damn, that sucks.. I hope an update fixing all of the different issues with the Watcher dlc comes out soon.

[near atlas]

Publishers try not to botch indie ports challenge (impossible)

It’s literally Risk Of Rain 2 all over again

[next gazelle]

It works yes, but has weird conditions to it

There seems to be a difference if you die on the first cycle

[tiny imp]

The port was rushed again 🥹

[white phoenix]

i dont think rushed, code is spaghetti and hard to use on console maybe

[tiny imp]

It's been twice that the console port was broken on launch

I know bugs aren't as easy to find and squash but these are pretty easy to see

Reminds me of the sounds breaking when msc launched on console. It made me buy it on PC

[hazy pulsar]

May I ask if I should consult about any Nintendo Switch-related bugs on this channel?Since the release of The Watcher DLC, my MSC mod has been unable to be played normally...

[honest ether]

Manually update your Rain World

[formal plinth]

Did the developers said anything about any patches for the Watcher dlc on Twitter, or there isn't any news yet?

[wintry swallow]

no...

[formal plinth]

Damn...

[sleek trench]

just tried to meet ||spinning top|| in torrid desert and when she warped me the game immediately crashed and it almost wiped my save file

I have a back up thank God because that could’ve been REALLY bad

[sleek trench]

happy to report this is a one time issue, but the game does lag really badly during the transition

[hazy pulsar]

How should I update? Generally, it would automatically prompt for an update, but currently there is still no update prompt for the game.

I'm not quite sure how to manually update the NS's game.

I found the tutorial for manually updating the NS game. Thank you for your help. I'll give it a try first.

[honest ether]

The game itself will usually check for updates automatically, but game DLC updates are kind of hidden, there's no version number for them

The thing that's needing to be updated is Downpour, since the issues faced as of late are due to the game and Downpour being different versions

[hazy pulsar]

thank you so much. I finish update now and I am going to check if it works. THANKS!!!ᕕ ( ᐛ ) ᕗ

[hazy pulsar]

IT WORKS😭😭😭😭 I can play now

[serene magnet]

Absolutely fuming at the number of graphical bugs and crashes I’ve been encountering

So many karma levels lost due to things I can’t control

Will disabling MSC help at all?

[serene magnet]

Wow I misread this title

That’s embarrassing

I thought it would provide help for Watcher

[pulsar stone]

I just started playing Watcher on my Xbox One and there's bad lag during the cutscenes and ||warps.||

That's the only issue I've noticed so far.

Also, when I exit the game, it doesn't save the mods that I applied in remix, and just goes back to having everything but Watcher applied.

[scarlet tinsel]

You can shelter and see echoes and shit?

[pulsar stone]

What?
What I mean is that when I boot up Rain World, I'll go to the remix menu and activate the Watcher DLC in order to play it. But, once I leave the game, the Watcher is deactivated.

[scarlet tinsel]

Yeah but you can play the watcher like ?

It doesn’t crash?

[pulsar stone]

I can play it, but the game does crash sometimes.

[scarlet tinsel]

You can hop on your save too?

When it crash you can go back on the same save like

[pulsar stone]

It saves my progress, yes. It's just annoying that I have to keep going back to remix in order to reactivate Watcher every time I load the game.

[scarlet tinsel]

Yeah but at least you can play

Your on ps5?

[pulsar stone]

Xbox One.

[scarlet tinsel]

Okey when you crash it’s in shelter ?

Sorry bro I need all information it’s day 5 I can’t play

🤣🤣🤣

[pulsar stone]

I've never crashed in a shelter, it's always been while I'm exploring a region.

[scarlet tinsel]

Hmmm

When did you install the game?

The doc

Dlc

[pulsar stone]

I installed it a couple of days ago -- the day after the release.

[scarlet tinsel]

And was it like that before then

Like you could play a bit and save progress that day?

[pulsar stone]

My game still crashes sometimes even when I'm just playing Vanilla Rain World, but the bugs have gotten worse in the Watcher campaign.

[scarlet tinsel]

Yea I get it

Still sucks

Did you slept in the complex shelter

[pulsar stone]

Did you have any issues with cutscenes and screens in the Watcher taking longer to load?

[scarlet tinsel]

Like just after the first region

[pulsar stone]

Just after hydroponics?

[scarlet tinsel]

My guy I don’t even play

The game crash and corrupt my save

Yeah

Just after that

Next to the door

[pulsar stone]

The first shelter I slept in after hydroponics was one of the other shelters in Industrial, not the one next to the Outskirts gate.

[scarlet tinsel]

Okey brother

And

Last and late

Have you encountered a echo

If so did you crash

[pulsar stone]

Three times, and the game did not crash. However, screen lag got worse after the third echo visit.

[scarlet tinsel]

Hmmm

Okey

I did like you

Got to a echoe

And man my save got corrupted

After a crash

The echo in outskirts

[pulsar stone]

Whenever I ||warp||, the screen turns red like a region that hasn't been rendered.

But only for a second.

[scarlet tinsel]

The red happens too

But it crash like this for infinity time

Do the red screen texture thing appends a lot?

[pulsar stone]

It only happens with ||warping|| so far.

[scarlet tinsel]

Bro I wish I wear you

I can’t believe i payed for this broken dlc

[pulsar stone]

It'll get better eventually.

[honest ether]

Different consoles seemingly have different severities of bugs

PS5 is pretty bad afaik.

I haven't been able to try Switch Watcher. But Switch base 1.11.0 is fine, but still has some advertised game features softlocked

[pulsar stone]

I noticed another problem with Xbox One Watcher.
If I sleep in a shelter with items and then exit the game, when I come back, the items will either be different, absent, or possibly replaced with creatures.

Same for creatures in the shelter.

I killed a bunch of noodle flies in a Pillar Grove shelter, and then my game crashed the next cycle.
When I reloaded the game, two of the dead noodleflies weren't in the shelter anymore.

[radiant coral]

Expedition quest is bricked on PS5 but works fine on PS4

[pulsar stone]

Footage of the aforementioned bug.

[tiny imp]

Okay that honestly looks kinda cool though

[formal plinth]

Are there any major bugs on the PS4 version of the Watcher?

I don't have it yet, but I'm planning to buy it till I have more free time. But the amount of bugs that I'm seeing around are honestly deterring me from getting it.

[radiant coral]

I can't even buy the PS4 version of the watcher on the PlayStation store, I'd have to buy it off of the app and even then I don't know if it will let me download it to my console once I do

[scarlet tinsel]

Yea

[worn cosmos]

Not recieving any achievements on xbox, I've done both the watcher> ||rot ending|| and watcher> ||spinning top ending|| and still haven't gotten any of the added watcher achievements

[scarlet tinsel]

Go report in the website http://bugs.akuparagames.com/rain-world/bugs

[dull matrix]

There's really just as many bugs, if not more, on consoles rn. PC players kinda have it better since they're able to send error logs and the devs can patch bugs more quickly. But between Switch and PS4? I doubt there's much of a difference... Same major bugs are occurring it seems

[formal plinth]

That really sucks, not gonna lie...

[short parrot]

cursed rain world copy

[crimson smelt]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPZzNGEOcx4hA48xbfZ02551dIKWRcdbq?si=jrOCsqx-BgkZPs8G

Noticed this one in a stream. It wasn't a true progression block but def disruptive. They also had the ending cutscene bug out shortly after.

[flint birch]

W thumbnail

[white phoenix]

that cinematic bug... that thing exist on pc too

(not exactly the same) but on my side, the ending was in a infinite loop, then the game crashed but i still could hear the sound

||saint couldn't reach the end of the void||

[lapis pewter]

I finally got to test out Watcher on switch, and, from the first few hours (2-3), it's looking promising for console RW, but I have experienced 2 crashes in the same spot because of scavengers.

Though, 1 major issue is that the textures can severly bug out and often do it too.

No lag problems yet, it looks like 30 fps almost always.

They also fixed some really old bugs, like the little numerical console pads in (iterator) walls.

[heady sparrow]

Which language is your console Set to?

[wintry swallow]

Yeah, could you say what is your console's language? It would be very helpful

[lapis pewter]

English, why?

Wow, language can make an impact?

[wintry swallow]

it seems that the decimal separator used can

but if it is a dot in your case, then that would explain why it is fine for you

[lapis pewter]

Oh wow, that sounds a bit game breaking.

Okay, played a bit more and the glitches, or, let's say limitations are staring to show. Because all the visual stuff is pretty heavy on your console (or at leats on switch), it tries blurring the image to maintain a stable fps. Which, actually works pretty well, apart from the fact you can hardly make out anything from how blurry it is. But at this point, both options severely impact performance in some way. Maybe a setting to disable auto blur?
It can get a little jarring at times and I'd like to see the nice, crisp pixel art and not just some hazy remnant of a once beautiful pixel.

Also, [region name spoiler] ||Migration Path|| is the first region I've encountered seemingly missing textures, instead displaying a dull, monotonous cyanish or brownish color on every tile save for some rooms depending on where you are...

[honest ether]

Actually I don't think the blur is a performance thing

I use tools to check resolution and framerate and overclock and whatnot, and the resolution count isn't changing.

Echo screen blur makes the game look lower resolution, and I think the usage of the blur sporadically is what's making it look like a resolution adjustment.

The game stays at 768p at all times

[lapis pewter]

Damn, alright.
Because it's pretty noticeable, I remember the past echo blur not being too game breaking.

[honest ether]

Yeah it is

[lapis pewter]

Well... Maybe it did

It definitely was 😔

[honest ether]

I notice poles becoming different widths

But yeah the echo blur was a thing in Downpour

[lapis pewter]

It also becomes incredibly pixelated (maybe that has to do with the game's pixelation though).

[lapis pewter]

I wonder why that's even a thing.

It worked completely fine before blur came along.

[honest ether]

They've upped the GPU profile since Vanilla. But I think Downpour did that. 307 > 384. I play with it to 460 for my 60fps patch.

[lapis pewter]

So you think it's fixable or something a bit too tricky? I don't think you can just down the GPU again, that might break things.

[honest ether]

Watcher is super heavy on the GPU

I just think the screen effect they're using is either bugged or a lower performance version of the effect

Ah! No

I see what you mean now

This is definitely some kind of Unity resolution adjuster thing

When suspending the game and reopening it it'll freak out

It's not reported as resolution changing, must just be a limitation of the tool

But it definitely is

[lapis pewter]

No worries, the other response is just as helpful!
But yikes, it seems like there aren't many options towards solving this.

[honest ether]

I can submit a bug report for it

It's pretty evident in that clip

[lapis pewter]

I first noticed it in ||Coral Caves||, there's a split second where you see a "blurred" room clearly and then you can actively see it downscaling.

[lapis pewter]

Go for it!

Yeah, this is quite an issue.

[honest ether]

Hm. Disabling my 60fps patch it seems like an intentional performance thing

In a scene where I'm maxxing my 460mhz clock to reach 30fps. I can drop all the way down to 307mhz, and it'll retain 30fps, but dunk the resolution.

So I think this has been a solution decided for Switch for performance sake

So this doesn't seem like any sort of configuration bug then, unfortunately

If this weren't a crusty little Unity project I don't think there'd be any problem keeping performance

But then again Hollow Knight ran at 60 on Switch and Silksong 120 on Switch 2

[lapis pewter]

Yeah, it was so predictable that it just seemed right being an intentional performance addition.

[proper ember]

Hiii, just found this channel, sorry if this is asked a lot but do we have any news with all the crashing and stuff on console???

[honest ether]

They don't have Switch 2 devkits

We ain't getting 60fps

[dull matrix]

Oh yeahh, I heard about Nintendo not giving dev kits to developers. That's such a dumb decision on their part... there's still a chance they'll change their mind on that, but rn all devs are forced to just work with Switch 1 and pray their games will work on Switch 2

[faint zephyr]

yeah... not a chance

[viscid pivot]

not YET :>

but yeah probably not for a year or two if at all lol

[icy sandal]

Expedition quests don't seem to work at all on Switch 2

[radiant coral]

PS5 after today's update: Expedition quest works again
PS4 after update: downpour and expedition was disabled and completely unavailable as if I didn't pay for it; after uninstalling and re-installing it both are back, watcher is available on PS4, got PS4 watcher for free from when I bought the PS5 version so I didn't have to re buy watcher for PS4, theses are the only thing I know got fixed today

[empty fox]

Whenever I try to open arena (specifically competitive) it gets frozen in a loading screen when I start a round
I only have downpour
And it's on switch

[heady sparrow]

Switch doesn't have the fixes yet

[formal plinth]

Hey, I need help with something in the game (is not a bug).

Apparently there is a popcorn plant unlock, but I'm having a lot of trouble in trying to find it. I searched everywhere in the region, but I can't see it.

Is that specific unlock only available for the Watcher dlc?

[faint zephyr]

It might be cause I don't see it on the full vanilla unlock sandbox image on the wiki

can't check to verify though cause I gotta avoid spoilers

[radiant coral]

Farm arrays, it's a new unlock

[formal plinth]

I searched in Farm Arrays, but for some reason is not appearing for me unless the unlock is for certain characters like Monk or Survivor?

[radiant coral]

It's in the room with the red pearl, to the left of the echo, it says any of them can unlock it

[wintry swallow]

I unlocked it with Arti, because I was in farm arrays with him

and yeah, it's in the room with the red pearl, you can get there by going past the echo near outskirts gate

[heady sparrow]

Alright, ||Fetid Glen|| seems to be unplayable for me bc it already crashed there like... 8 times. Maybe even more.

[formal plinth]

Ohh ok, I'll look for it with Arti. Thanks for the help.

[wintry swallow]

where did the game crash for you? was it a specific place? I'll try to check if it happens to me too

[heady sparrow]

Alright, I came from the ||Fractured Gateway Warp|| its the ||WARC_E11|| room. Went further left to the shelter and the first room and second room left after the shelter with the ||Anglers||, I mostly crash.

[heady sparrow]

Maybe I should leave it and go to somewhere else, and come back later or some

[heady sparrow]

Really seems that its crashing for me mostly at that Region. Because now, im not crashing 1000 thousand times in the other regions

[wintry swallow]

ok, I am here

I swam through ||WARC_E10||

I went to the second room with ||anglers|| (||WARC_E01||) and exited through upper left pipe. No crashes for me

unless I misunderstood something?

[heady sparrow]

Either you're lucky, or you went a different way, but the next room after shelter already made me crash, so idk

[wintry swallow]

Well, game crashed in ||Ancient Urban|| though. when going from ||WAUA_A08B|| to ||WAUA_E02B||

[heady sparrow]

Welp

Im back at ||Fetid Glen|| but this time at the upper part and its running smoothly as of now. Idk, maybe ||anglers|| make me crash or so

[wintry swallow]

maybe, because there is really nothing special going on in these rooms

i don't know how exactly spawns work in this game, but maybe you got unlucky and something happened with them?

[heady sparrow]

Maybe?

But well, won't go down there either way

I hate those things..

[wintry swallow]

I got so scared when I encountered it the first time

Why did they give creepy sounds to so many creatures

[heady sparrow]

To terrify us

[wintry swallow]

Ok I got to the first ending with only 2 crashes in the whole playthrough

I thought it's gonna be much worse

[heady sparrow]

Tbf, same. If we ignore the crashes in that one Region, I only had like... 2 or 4 crashes in my 17h playthrough (still not finished yet)

[radiant coral]

So does it take an unbelievable amount of time to load into the arena menu or not at all as well as takes a while to load into a campaign for anyone else on switch 1?

[honest ether]

Arena is bugged

Some screens don't load

Campaign should be fine. Sometimes the game may take a while to load, my only guess is maybe weird Unity nonsense

[radiant coral]

I was going to check if the mll still freezes the game thru arena but I remembered that I don't have it unlocked on either ps version so I tried switch to only see how broken that version is now

[honest ether]

MLL doesn't crash anymore afaik

[short parrot]

glad i waited to buy this for switch.........

[honest ether]

I'm having fun with it on Switch, some of the crashes are kind of annoying tho, visual bugs are distracting

[heady sparrow]

Yeah, same

[wintry swallow]

I've stumbled upon many reports stating that frogs may cause crashes, and they are indeed spawning near the rooms you had problems with. Maybe that was the problem?

[heady sparrow]

Maybe?

Just hadn't crashes in other rooms with frogs

[wintry swallow]

me too, but if frogs caused crashes all the time, it would be fixed by now

so the conditions are more subtle probably

[formal plinth]

Hey, my data got corrupted again and deleted everything in my PS5 (the game is the PS4 version tho). I got the Watcher dlc a few days ago since I saw that most of the issues got fixed and it was working just fine for a couple of days until today.

Today I got an error code when I opened the game and after I bypass the error, everything got deleted. Is there a way to fix this error? Because I can't play anymore due to this, I uninstalled and reinstalled the game but the same error still shows when I open the game.

[flint birch]

"Root element is missing" 💀

Idk wtf that means but it sounds serious

When you say "deleted everything" you mean all the your save files in rain world. Or literally everything on the ps5. Its essentially a brick now?

[faint zephyr]

Obviously, you should send a bug report, and maybe ping riv otter

[formal plinth]

The save file got somehow corrupted after playing just fine a few days ago.

The issue is only with Rain World, my other games are fine.

[formal plinth]

Already did yesterday, let's see if they respond. But I think the only solution for me is deleting all of the data on my PS5 for Rain World.

[heady sparrow]

I had that some years ago as downpour came out for console. Idk how long until it happened, but I played on my ps4 and sudddenly my game crashed (not surprising). After restarting the game, I got the message that my save Was corrupted. I tried everything but nothing helped, so I needed to delete the whole save...

[formal plinth]

I guess is a normal thing to happen in Rain World after the two dlcs because this is my second time that my save file gets corrupted.

[heady sparrow]

Seems so

[flint birch]

I too got my save corrupted when downpour came out (ps4). I had a white slugcat journey with over 115 cycles. Was trying to find all the secret unlocks etc. Who knew saving the game is a herculean task

[formal plinth]

I seem to have another problem. I'm playing as Survivor again from start and everything was just fine. But today for some reason when I enter one specific room in Outskirts, my game crashes without fail. I'm just curious if anyone experienced this specific crash before. Let me see if I can attach the video of said crash here.

In the video I'm holding a white pearl. I'm going to make a bug report here, but I just want to see if there is someone who experienced this crash and how to fix it.

[short parrot]

its over

[pliant wren]

[pliant wren]

It is likely do to Jolly Coop, as it's pretty buggy last I checked.
I'd recommend disabling Joop, testing to see if that works, and if it doesn't slowly disable add-ons until it doesn't crash

[formal plinth]

I restarted the campaign, but I'll definitely turn off jolly coop. Forgot that jolly coop is quite buggy, thanks for the suggestion

[mental notch]

Man, my Hunter just turned into Saint somehow. Not just the skin but the abilities too. It just had a big long update and changed it.

Editing to say that turning off jolly co-op seems to have fixed this too, but I'm not sure what they did in this update.

[short parrot]

good

[next gazelle]

Xbox has issues with colored pearls on shelters; Sheltering with colored pearls crashes the game upon clicking continue

Only happens with msc active

[formal plinth]

Same with the PS4, I think it started happening after the latest update in November 24. I guess is probably a console only issue once again

[nimble oak]

PS4 here, only had this happen to me when sheltering with a (Watcher DLC spoiler) ||sand grub||

[formal plinth]

That's new, was the crash consistent as well?

[twilit helm]

the pearl + shelter thing, i think it's new, yeah
it only started happening to me (playing on switch) after an update that happened a while back. first update that i knew of xD and the one that made ||pillars|| finally not crash every time i took a commute through the region, iykyk.

turns out it was a 'track key items' thing. turn that off, and no issues whatsoever

..."whatsoever" is a strong word, actually.
no issues with the game crashing when you enter a room that's adjacent to a room where a pearl is stored, at least.
(never found out why all my items i had in shelters were dumped into the adjacent rooms though, but im guessing it was for similar reasons xD)

oh-- did anyone else get like. colored pearls / white pearls resetting?
like, the ones i have in shelters, those were fine. (after collecting them off the ground though, lol, horrifying to witness)
but i pass by areas, and duplicates of white pearls + colored pearls are exactly where they were originally xD

(and... maybe lineage? ._. im so sure i had a monster kelp somewhere, and i passed it by recently and it was mercifully a pole plant. didnt think anything of it til i realized that lineages are permanent. anyone else have that happen?)

[nimble oak]

Yeah I think I had to like spam pause before anything loaded and then I could get out normally

[next gazelle]

yeah

I got that

[twilit helm]

looks like the pearl + shelter thing is getting a direct fix!

[lapis pewter]

Is it known that the (WATCHER SPOILERS!!!) ||last shelter between Station Annex and a portal in the lowest part of station Annex (I think its name was similar to unfortunate development?)|| creates a crash loop never letting you back in the game again?

I remember storing a pearl in the previous shelter and it somehow showed up there too.

Then, when I woke up it just crashes instantly when getting back to my watcher save file.

[faint zephyr]

why hasn't anything been done about the input lag on switch version?

[honest ether]

Input latency feels normal for me on Switch. The game runs at 30fps and might feel a little more sluggish because of this.

I have only ever played the Switch version tho so I wouldn't notice it if it weren't obvious

[naive fiber]

i have tried most platforms, but i always struggle to really notice it

[faint zephyr]

It's possible that it's in my head, but I recently played on the computer using a controller and it seemed slightly different.

I guess I also was curious if other people had even noticed

[honest ether]

PC version is a higher framerate

So it would be noticeable

[faint zephyr]

yeah

[naive fiber]

the actual engine or physics is always rendered at a fixed value afaik

but idk how that factors into the inputs exactly

[honest ether]

The engine is fine but the frames are spaced out more so it takes longer for you to see your input

[naive fiber]

this is the part where i have to press buttons in slow motion just to go hmm well ok i guess

[faint zephyr]

The main reason I bring it up is that many switch games run at 30fps and do not feel this way

but it seems like I'm the only one that sees it, so it's probably not an issue after all

[naive fiber]

you’re not the only one who sees it btw, it’s an incredibly common rw switch port criticism

i’m just i specifically suck at seeing input lag unless it’s like really ridiculous

but there’s also things like, beyond the FPS difference RW also just controls very differently from most other games and i wonder if that factors into the perception of input delay too

[faint zephyr]

I see

[naive fiber]

i went and did the thing, i tried to match up the jump presses

[short parrot]

every copy of rainworld is personalized

[fallow imp]

So I ran into a problem recently. I play on PS5 and I purchased the downpour dlc way before watcher dlc was even announced. I went to play rain world after the watcher dlc was released (I didn’t purchase the watcher dlc and I still don’t have it, I only own the downpour dlc) and it wouldn’t let me use any of the downpour stuff. The stuff in the remix menu was locked, the slugcats were gone, and every time I try toggling something in the remix menu it tells me to purchase the dlc. I’ve tried restoring purchases and uploading my data and redownloading it but it still hasn’t fixed the issue. The only other thing I can think to do is delete the game and reinstall it but I don’t want to run the risk of losing all of my progress. Anyone have anything that might help?

[formal plinth]

The same thing happened to me as well one day, and the only way for it to be fixed (at least for me) was by uninstalling and reinstalling the game.

I didn't lose any of the game's data when I did that, it should be safe to uninstall and reinstall it.

[fallow imp]

Okay, thank you so much

[formal plinth]

No problem

[lapis pewter]

Have we gotten any more news about if Akupara will ever get that switch 2 devkit?

Because it seems the resolution drop technique in watcher now also affects other regions (currently I only know of Outer Expanse being affected).

Which is a HUGE bummer.

The greatest view in said region is now behind a blurrier version of itself, which is extremely unfortunate.

I really wish there was an option to disable the blur filter.

[faint zephyr]

no, I don't think there is any news

That would be a riv otter question, probably

[lapis pewter]

I guess we'll have to wait and see 😔

[faint zephyr]

Are switch 2 dev kits still pretty exclusive?

[lapis pewter]

I have no idea!

[severe tapir]

i'm looking for answers about the state of the game on the switch 2, is the input lag still an issue? how are the frames?

[severe tapir]

have you played it on the switch 2?

sorry i didn't read above 😂 i see that you are having issues

[lapis pewter]

Nope, but I have heard that the FPS stays capped at 30 and that there is less lag and less crashes (as expected!).

[severe tapir]

i'm just waiting for the game to run well on the switch 2, i think it will be such a good fit in handheld, can't wait

[lapis pewter]

Yeah, definitely.

But Nintendo is a little too keen on gatekeeping the switch 2 devkits.

For some reason.

[severe tapir]

yeah its weird, if i understand correctly they had to make changes to make it run on the switch 2 so that's why its capped at 30

i'm guessing they are trying everything they can to fix it

well, hoping

[lapis pewter]

I thought it was the lack thereof.
They can't change it, because they can't work with the new system.

The switch 2 version is just the switch 1 version, but automatically ported.

[severe tapir]

yeah, some games were optimized to scale compared to specs, so they just automatically work on the switch 2

[lapis pewter]

So once they get their hands on the devkit, that opens up every single possibility for improvement!

No idea what the current state was on their side (Akupara), so no idea if they're even close to getting a devkit. Or maybe they haven't tried!

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[severe tapir]

its kinda annoying that there has not been any updates on it

like an announcement

#rainworld-news message

never mind i was searching "switch 2" instead of "switch" this came in 2 days ago

[honest ether]

I have

Not super recently. Because I transferred my save file to the PC version

I think recent patches might have made the experience better? Or could've also made it worse

[severe tapir]

if you ever load it up again and check it out i'd be curious to hear what you think, i'm kinda waiting for the game to be optimized for switch 2 so i can start reccomending it to people around me 😂 and also so i can buy it for myself

[honest ether]

Oh it's fine for the most part

I beat every Downpour campaign and Watcher between Switch 1 and 2

[severe tapir]

okok, did you get bad input lag? i heard that was a problem

[honest ether]

2 still lags in some buggy areas. But not as much as the Switch 1. But it's the same game fundamentally

[honest ether]

I was still able to perform normal tricks and it felt fine. I think just 'cause it's 30fps means you'll get slightly more input latency

I am much happier with my 160fps gameplay on PC

[severe tapir]

yeah i think the framerate isn't the worst though, i'm guessing the physics engine runs at 30, so everything above that is just transition frames

[honest ether]

Yeah but higher framerates mean waiting a shorter time for the game to process your inputs into new displayed frames. And you can see threats sooner

[severe tapir]

yeah i guess, its just such a good fitting game for the switch, i just kinda want it 😂

thinking about getting the physical aswell 😛

[honest ether]

I won the physical! Never opened it

[severe tapir]

AH yeah i get what you mean

[honest ether]

I already have the game digitally, and now on Steam

But they sent me a sealed Switch copy for the art raffle

[severe tapir]

damn, yeah i'm thinking about it, think they are going for 150 on ebay

[severe tapir]

that's so cool dude

[honest ether]

Hopefully Limited Run Games makes more

I feel like the PS5 version would be rarer. But I value the cartridge of the Switch physical more. You don't have to install it or anything

[severe tapir]

yeah i just want something physical from rain world, its like the game that had the most effect on me 😂

[honest ether]

I've spent a considerable amount of my spare income on merch official and unofficial

[severe tapir]

oh nice, you have anything to reccomend?

i was thinking about trying to make a level frame myself, and make a little diorama type thing

[honest ether]

The unofficial plushies from Forrksie are real fun

I spent $460 on a huge order from them

I have some plush keychains hanging from my PC rn

[severe tapir]

omfg i need one

[honest ether]

I have that

They didn't list Survivor when I ordered so I asked them if they could make a white Monk!

And they did

[severe tapir]

yeah i'm thinking if i should just make something myself, like a 2D thing of a slugcat on a pole

i just want something on my desk

[severe tapir]

those are cute

[honest ether]

They're good quality

[severe tapir]

yeah idk i think i'll have to make some myself maybe,

[lapis pewter]

YO

I just got to the final stretch in watcher and it GLITCHED.

(MASSIVE ENDING SPOILERS) ||It didn't teleport me out of the fragment weaver dimension|| (MASSIVE ENDING SPOILERS)

Hopefully this was a one off.

It already crashed at the sequence before.

[iron wedge]

@vague fiber maybe you shouldn't have removed it from #1023288872005808239 before consoles get updated

[iron wedge]

^ this is how you get past it

[vague fiber]

true, forgot that there's a delay for console updates

?remindme is 1.11.8 out on console yet in 4 days

[leaden halo]

Sounds great, I'll remind you in 4 days (<t:1776798664>).

[lapis pewter]

Oh, it's patched in the newest update???

Great!!

It indeed fixed itself after I restarted.

Just in case, ||but it crashed right before the weaver ending, so I couldn't see it. It saved after the cutscene ends, so restarting the playthrough is the only actual way to view it in-game once more.||