the source is for an outdated version
#general
loud socket
worthy geode
the source is for an outdated version
Yeah. Which makes it as useful as linking the source for some random other plugin 
vagrant marlin
anyways, if they are relying on a dependency which hasnt updated, why not pr an update to that?
its a paid plugin
should be free with this quality of service
worthy geode
should be free with this quality of source code as well
vagrant marlin
loud socket
should be free with this quality of source code as well
2-3 years since the source was last edited
vagrant marlin
im sure it has improved much since
worthy geode
2-3 years since the source was last edited
nice, but why don't push that to github then?
loud socket
Because it's now a paid plugin?
worthy geode
and?
vagrant marlin
and?
loud socket
Why the fuck should someone have to give out their work for free
vagrant marlin
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/plotsquared-v6.77506/ is paid, and the source is open
limber knotBOT
@loud socket nobody said that lmao
loud socket
Then I could just compile the jar and get it for free
worthy geode
You can make your plugin paid & still provide source code
limber knotBOT
stop assuming that "open source" means "unpaid"
vagrant marlin
Then I could just compile the jar and get it for free
yeah, and you wouldnt receive support
worthy geode
arguably you are legally required to provide source code to buyers anyways
vagrant marlin
you could just as well download it from a crack site for free, and you wouldnt receive support
limber knotBOT
I mean they don't receive support by paying either Kappa
worthy geode
(I also don't understand how a plugin with the advertised features that this plugin has would need any dependencies. all of that is possible with the API)
loud socket
It's up to you if you want your server to get backdoored or turned into a botnet slave
worthy geode
what
loud socket
downloading from a cracked plugin site
worthy geode
How would I know my nice paid premium plugin has no backdoor if its not open source?
loud socket
the plugins are riddled with malicious code
vagrant marlin
It's up to you if you want your server to get backdoored or turned into a botnet...
id argue its just as dangerous downloading a plugin from spigotmc just as its from any sus site
anyone can upload anything to spigot
and accounts have been hacked before too to distribute builds with rats in them
limber knotBOT
in the end there is really no difference between downloading any binary or compiling unreviewed code...
write your own shit/pay a dev if you are paranoid ¯_(ツ)_/¯
vagrant marlin
hey, your closed source premium plugin could have a backdoor hiding in it
how would you know?
loud socket
Yeah but there's less/no Swastika's on spigot
vagrant marlin
what
loud socket
I decompiled it since I've used their API
limber knotBOT
just go bother the author until they actually update it...
there is nothing we can do (besides advising to use a less shit plugin)
loud socket
But I don't want to update to 1.19.0
worthy geode
you can't update to 1.19.1
vagrant marlin
the plugin is terrible if it doesnt support the latest version after over a month of being out: not because the version is bad
loud socket
1.19.0 isn't the final release
worthy geode
because 1.19.1 isn't a thing right now
limber knotBOT
if you don't update your paid plugins to 1.19 on the first day/before spigot is out then wtf are you even doing
worthy geode
no version is the "final release" as long as Mojang continues working on minecraft
limber knotBOT
runs
true canyon
Oh hey it's the open source paid argument! Hi, paid plugin dev for a thing that's fully open source. Makes money just fine. Any claims that a GPL derived plugin shouldn't be open source are nonsensical. 😀
loud socket
Perhaps the only servers that update to the latest version are Survival(like) servers
vagrant marlin
Oh hey it's the open source paid argument! Hi, paid plugin dev for a thing that'...
thank you bax
limber knotBOT
tell that to a judge 👀
worthy geode
Perhaps the only servers that update to the latest version are Survival(like) se...
no
vagrant marlin
Perhaps the only servers that update to the latest version are Survival(like) se...
perhaps the servers that arent there just to make money update to the latest version
limber knotBOT
I mean VoidChest is literally a survival(like) plugin lol
loud socket
^^ for Skyblock and Factions gamemodes
limber knotBOT
yes, those are survival-like gamemodes
vagrant marlin
factions servers are still on 1.7
limber knotBOT
if you don't offer the latest features on those then wtf are you even doing
vagrant marlin
what do you expect
loud socket
Nah they're not on 1.7
worthy geode
the like 5 servers that still exists
vagrant marlin
1.7.10, sorry.
worthy geode
classic factions is a dead game mode nowadays
vagrant marlin
factions consists of toxic kids and youtubers making a easy buck nowadays
loud socket
Yep, died when TheCampingRusher stopped making videos
true canyon
I think there's only one fuuid on 1.7.10, it's mostly 1.8 for the ancient ones
worthy geode
But even if it wasn't, FactionsUUID also was updated to 1.19 pretty quickly. The version isn't the issue here
limber knotBOT
btw. all of the libraries that plugin uses support 1.19 (don't ask me how I know that)
vagrant marlin
😳
worthy geode
exposed
limber knotBOT
(and have for over a month, so no idea what that dev is doing in the meantime)
limber knotBOT
not really much to count as far as the download count is concerned 👀
loud socket
He's Greek so he's probably sleeping
worthy geode
why are you not sleeping?
vagrant marlin
because the clock is 18:20!
worthy geode
or updating your VoidChest plugin?
worn crest
because the clock is 18:20!
17:21
vagrant marlin
true, its 18:21 now.
worthy geode
its 31.6.
that might be the temperature though
vagrant marlin
🥵
limber knotBOT
worthy geode
thats a nice domain
wet storm
because the clock is 18:20!
wtf, are you MSK or what? I have the exact same time
brave mountain
3rd party SIM unlock sites are safe?
vagrant marlin
wtf, are you MSK or what? I have the exact same time
i am not msk
loud socket
They won't for for known sites
vagrant marlin
3rd party SIM unlock sites are safe?
sim locking is stupid
vagrant marlin
dont think that even phones bought from sim carriers are locked here
worthy geode
yeah, sim locking is illegal in some countries and perfectly legal and widely used in others. its stupid
vagrant marlin
focken ell mate
meager dawn
wtf, are you MSK or what? I have the exact same time
18:32 in finland as well :)
meager dawn
focken ell mate
redditstatus says all systems operational, client side issue ?
shitty internet moment
mossy vessel
@spiral robin time to adore the new config page?
vagrant marlin
i deleted the config
tough ledge
Hey is anybody here really good with Spring Data Jpa?
spare venture
little frost
https://i.imgur.com/yJ5Oec1.png
daring laurel
ty
tough ledge
https://gagadget.com/en/145360-the-european-union-will-require-all-new-cars-to-b...
WHhy ????
true canyon
Any good prime deals? I know the day is an unwanted inventory dump but sometimes there's something good...
ashen cliff
https://gagadget.com/en/145360-the-european-union-will-require-all-new-cars-to-b...
Not sure, but I do remember the original plan.
New cars (2021->2023) have to report the drivers habits to the EU.
Based on that, they would decide on how to make the new law/rules.
The rules at the time were: Warn the user about speeding, allow them to go after, if they keep insisting.
void void
1.19.1 releases
I highly doubt it’s releasing today
spare venture
what about freedom 😡
spare venture
there is also a reminder that you don’t have a seatbelt on, it allows you to drive without it… but
dim thistle
Volvo drive moment.
ayyy even my dad has 🙂
void void
hopefully tomo 🤞
Releases are often done on Tuesdays
dim thistle
there is also a reminder that you don’t have a seatbelt on, it allows you to dri...
no sm volvo's cant run without the drivers seatbelt on
spare venture
yeah that’s fucked i usually drive 10-15 mph over here because the speed limits are insanely low for what they should be. also no cops
void void
Releases are often done on Tuesdays
And chat reporting still has issues
spare venture
(that’s the speed of traffic, too, so it’s not unsafe)
tough ledge
Also I mean like empty strech of highway, wtf is the problem?
spare venture
speed limits are usually pretty low here. if it’s 35 it’s safe to drive 45, if it’s 55 it’s safe to drive 70, etc
lilac moon
is it a bad idea for me to try and replace .mca files from backup while the server is running
oh wait the region file is way too big, and idk how to restore single chunks from the region file
warm anchor
Spawn a test server and copy over with worldedit
vernal moth
You know, there are reasons why speed limits are low
lilac moon
Spawn a test server and copy over with worldedit
pain
vernal moth
Not just safety (which is the obvious) but also sound and other environmental effects
lilac moon
actually i can just turn off the survival since no one plays it anymore and ill have enough ram
vernal moth
<:kekw:674093681963302933>
Do you know what ISA is?
void void
maven("url") for kotlin dsl iirc
and lbapi would be compileOnly("com.gitlab.ruany:LiteBansAPI:0.3.5")
vernal moth
It's basically a assistant feature like many others in your car, that can help you to prevent driving to fast
My car has a dum version of that, I can set a manual speed limit for when I cross the border into the Netherlands, lol
unkempt drift
yeah I read the article
vernal moth
So I don't understand your reaction then
unkempt drift
it can turn off your motor
pastel reef
How fast do the Dell xps 9310 fans go? I've searched everywhere on google and can't find anything.
candid nacelle
How fast do the Dell xps 9310 fans go? I've searched everywhere on google and ca...
abt 35 mp/h
pastel reef
abt 35 mp/h
What's that in rpm?
candid nacelle
What's that in rpm?
I was just joking xD
charred maple
How fast do the Dell xps 9310 fans go? I've searched everywhere on google and ca...
It will always vary
Depends on how much load is on the computer and how hot it’s getting
It automatically will adjust its fan speed
pastel reef
I was wondering what the limit was because I never saw them running faster than 7000 rpm and I'm starting to wonder if that's the limit.
charred maple
Probably, 7000 is pretty fast
glass crag
is there any more in the client's latest.log
daring laurel
no
Its not a problem with the client, I just need to know which packet I wrote wrong
lilac moon
is there seriously no way to easiily just copy-paste chunks in worldedit and have them auto-align to the chunk grid
unkempt drift
prob can ask in the world edit discord
lilac moon
ok
unkempt drift
lilac moon
i wonder if i can delete some random chunks that someone generated at the world border without stopping the server since no one is there
ashen cliff
How fast do the Dell xps 9310 fans go? I've searched everywhere on google and ca...
High speed apparently.
And the power numbers don't mean anything, since the same series, just a different customer code, has the same power but runs at 5100 RPM and another that runs at 7200 RPM.
void void
whats the best lifesteal plugin
ive tried kyrens and ikevoodos but kyrens wasnt good and ikes kept removing more hearts after people dying
desert hinge
Is paper sponsored by Bloomhost and DedicatedMC
warm anchor
Is paper sponsored by Bloomhost and DedicatedMC
Paper is sponsored by all of you guys 
You can donate here https://opencollective.com/papermc and get a cool orange name
candid nacelle
Is paper sponsored by Bloomhost and DedicatedMC
I don't see either on open collective
mossy vessel
Oh I was working very hard
mossy vessel
Always 😌
wet storm
rate this church
magic river
haunted/7
golden gust
oooh, firewood
little frost
seems awfully familiar
spare venture
You know, there are reasons why speed limits are low
our speed limits are tied to safety and gas prices, ours would be higher if not for the gas crisis of the 70s
magic river
Higher speeds require softer curves and/or banked curves
warm anchor
It’s not like those curves stops idiots for going 100 mph over it
wet storm
~~oooh, firewood~~
actually, yeah, a sign attached to it (you can see it as a small white square on the photo) says that it is dangerous to walk nearby cuz it can be destroyed like every millisecond...
warm anchor
Can you imagine hitting a pothole going anything over 30 mph
ashen cliff
Higher speeds require softer curves and/or banked curves
That reminds me of a very nice mountain road we have...
I'll just say, that 90km/h is... very safe.
vernal moth
My city just reduced the speed to 20kmh on a busy road, preparation to turning it one way in 18 months
So that the space can be repurposed for street side commercial and generally more space for you know, people
People > cars
magic river
Huh, apparently in North America we set speed limits by measuring how fast people were driving on a clear sunny day and then using the 85th percentile rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5
ashen cliff
My city just reduced the speed to 20kmh on a busy road, preparation to turning i...
Ah yes. My idea of making all road one way.
magic river
And then adjusting from there based on lobbying 😛
ashen cliff
Here we have 50 and 90 as standard (excluding the highway).
There are some areas that have 60/70 due to folk.
warm anchor
So you mean I have to drive faster now so we can get higher speed limit?
Pushing up that average
vernal moth
Aren't people the biggest lobby in a democracy?
warm anchor
magic river
Yeah, I was thinking of people getting the speed lowered to 10 through their suburbs
Or the cops getting the speed lowered to 25 on a highway as it goes by their small town so they can make lots of money from tickets
warm anchor
The neighborhood that put bumper every 2 houses
Is pain
How about just enforce people to drive slower than making my drive feel like I am sailing in sea
ashen cliff
The neighborhood that put bumper every 2 houses
Bumpers + VW Group cars =
Is the Z-fighting in the crown intentional?
vernal moth
Imagine giving discord money
ashen cliff
first time with nitro in 1.5 years
I wish you a speedy recovery.
candid nacelle
hehe free trial 
warm anchor
Remember to cancel
candid nacelle
Imagine giving discord money
Imagine giving money to an organisation that makes server software based on wood that has been flatened
candid nacelle
Remember to cancel
already did
vernal moth
hehe free trial <a:blob:826240951965057064>
That's how they get ya
candid nacelle
then you become dependent on the
warm anchor
candid nacelle
and have to keep paying them money
vernal moth
Hooked on the drug of dum emoji
candid nacelle
candid nacelle
how abt Caffeine
vernal moth
For weaklings
vernal moth
Can't remember the last time I had caffeine, most be a few years
high mirage
Hooked on the drug of dum emoji
if anything I imagine that's why they added the raised server cap thing
vernal moth
The what
high mirage
nitro raises the user server cap to 200 from 100
candid nacelle
I mean, in Germany you can buy beer at 16
arl ima jump on a boat
o the euro cost a dollar
now all we have to do
is replace all of euros with dollars
then europe is cured!
except france
we can fix that place later
limber knotBOT
I do not share that optimism
candid nacelle
dw america fixes everything
candid nacelle
yall would be in a german bar drinking german beer if we didn't fix your continent
vernal moth
yall would be in a german bar drinking german beer if we didn't fix your contine...
I like German bars and German beers tho 🤔
Will be at one tomorrow actually!
vagrant marlin
first time with nitro in 1.5 years
good job on paying for a subscription service
proud of ya
ive got netflix, hbo max and disney+, and netflix is going to get dropped soon
just gotta watch bcs through first
warm anchor
Netflix is kinda meh
vagrant marlin
netflix is more than meh
its shit
there's nothing good there ever
other than breaking bad and better call saul
warm anchor
yeah the really shitty documentary that is just propaganda filled in that place last time I was browsing 
visual egret
windows <3
ashen cliff
Buy a better cable.
visual egret
it works on pop os just fine without constantly disconnecting/reconnecting
ashen cliff
Welcome to timeouts and retry counts.
vagrant marlin
linux superiority
vernal moth
https://youtu.be/ZXnJhSf7Ark?t=202
Aight boys, get one, it's time we move!
ashen cliff
My favorite EV:
https://youtu.be/jIjhOQpmvBw?t=255
vernal moth
there's nothing good there ever
I just watched the man from Toronto, that was enjoyable
vernal moth
windows <3
Blame the drivers, no?
vagrant marlin
why can i buy a 480p subscription to netflix
vernal moth
!warn @void void discussion of piracy is not allowed here
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Warned Newwind#4692 (discussion of piracy is not allowed here) [1 total infraction] -- MiniDigger#3086.
vagrant marlin
oh yeah, for this. to seem cheaper
visual egret
Blame the drivers, no?
from a user experience, it's the OS
visual egret
My favorite EV:
<https://youtu.be/jIjhOQpmvBw?t=255>
these ones are better
vagrant marlin
gimp is superior, all my homies hate adobe software
vernal moth
from a user experience, it's the OS
Nah, the device actually, apple makes it incredibly hard
vernal moth
I don't like to think about youtubers, that only makes me sick
ashen cliff
Just buy CS 6.
ripe sphinx
davinci go brr
visual egret
i'd expect a multi billion-dollar company to be able to implement me dragging and dropping photos off my phone, because some tech nerds writing software for free can
vernal moth
Back in the days the bros used windows movie maker
vagrant marlin
but atleast i can game on windows!!!!
vernal moth
No need for fancy software if the content is good
vagrant marlin
oh wait, i cant, i have an amd card
ashen cliff
i'd expect a multi billion-dollar company to be able to implement me dragging an...
Can't do that from MTP.
vagrant marlin
stable drivers 🤓
warm anchor
Early day YT is something for sure
vagrant marlin
windows update casually breaking amd gpu drivers
visual egret
its not like it matters
vagrant marlin
to make money
visual egret
i used a legit iso and it let me install with it disabled
vagrant marlin
ashen cliff
To give HP and Dell more money.
visual egret
because you buy new ones
vagrant marlin
people buy new laptops and shiz, those companies pay microsoft
ashen cliff
Yeah, no.
vernal moth
Friendly reminder that OEM licences is like the only way Microsoft makes money on this stuff
ashen cliff
Since they added an option to bypass it.
vernal moth
Linux for desktop is a meme
ashen cliff
I would switch... but some things are just more painful on Linux.
vagrant marlin
such as?
vernal moth
Heck, I hate apple, but if I couldn't daily drive windows I would get a mac
vagrant marlin
i havent encountered that many painful things
visual egret
Linux for desktop is a meme
works for me, haven't had to touch the terminal once except for neofetch which isnt something the average users dont use anyway
vagrant marlin
one was mainly game support
vernal moth
Linux: good for servers and cli (wsl)
Windows: good for desktop
Mac: good for creatives
ashen cliff
such as?
Flashing routers.
Windows has many utils to spin up a TFTP, DNS and PXE server without having to change any config options.
vernal moth
It just works
vagrant marlin
as far as i know, my fedora installation has just worked
vernal moth
No fiddling needed
visual egret
are you sure
coarse lily
Driver/device support is better and more robust than Linux, generally.
But Linux has come a long way.
vagrant marlin
encounter an issue? find some indian guy in youtube sharing some registry hacks
void void
windows nuked itself on update on two seperate occasions for me 
golden gust
Linux is great until it isn't
coarse lily
^
vernal moth
Well, windows punishes people who aren't worthy
coarse lily
It's like owning a pet lion.
vernal moth
She's a diva
coarse lily
Pretty cute but then maybe it murders your family.
golden gust
Steam is making some strides for gamers which helps but is still far from amazing
But, I mean, for the majority of PC users
vagrant marlin
recently ive had zero issues when it comes to gaming
vernal moth
I haven't had blue screens ever since I swapped my faulty SSD 😂
vagrant marlin
heroic games launcher works amazing, steam works amazing
golden gust
Like, we're lucky they're able to turn the thing on in the morning
visual egret
"linux is great until it isn't" the only time it hasnt been great for me is when i fucked up apt so bad by adding so much broken keys and repos that it just gave up on life
vernal moth
I am stupid too
vagrant marlin
you are upper-class stupid
vernal moth
I just want my shit to work without having to do anything
Actually I use edge, thank you
visual egret
have you ever used a low end device mini
vernal moth
Edge and IJ is everything I need from my PC
visual egret
(with windows)
little frost
encounter an issue? find some indian guy in youtube sharing some registry hacks
arch wiki
vagrant marlin
but with stupid, i refer to the ones who asked about 1.19
vernal moth
have you ever used a low end device mini
No I have money
vagrant marlin
you dont spend it all on beer?
vernal moth
Nah, beer is covered by donations
vagrant marlin
ah, good
vernal moth
I actually have no clue how much I get donated per month
vagrant marlin
but like seriously, my experience with linux on desktop has been quite flawless
especially after i bought an amd gpu
vernal moth
Cool!
vagrant marlin
nvidia is not as flawless
golden gust
The only time it hasn't been great is when nvidea fucks up an update and toasts the display server
vernal moth
It it works for you I am happy for you
vagrant marlin
nvidia was shit
vernal moth
But windows works for almost everyone
visual egret
nvidia worked great for me! until the incident
golden gust
the only time it hasn't been great is when a random update fucks up some system module
vernal moth
So stop trashing on what is the best option for the majority of people
visual egret
i did a fuckup on my end with drivers
golden gust
The only time it hasn't been great is when I had to spend weeks fucking around with wireless modules on my laptop until I finally found a kernel module which worked faster than dialup
vagrant marlin
So stop trashing on what is the best option for the majority of people
i wont, because ive had bad experiences with it
golden gust
windows sucks donkey dick too
But, they make recovery of the thing "okay enough" for most users
visual egret
hehe
vernal moth
It's software, as a dev I can say, all software sucks, because programmers are lazy assholes
golden gust
Hey, mini, you take that back
vagrant marlin
but when you have lazy assholes all across the globe, the end product is better
golden gust
I mean, to be fair, I can confirm
vagrant marlin
rather than the 5 who work on windows
vernal moth
Mini just said he was a lazy asshole.
You cant prove otherwise, lol
vagrant marlin
id be scared if i saw node.js too
visual egret
node js on windows is horrifying
vernal moth
You know, you can check what it's doing
visual egret
actually on linux too
vernal moth
And where it starts from
visual egret
worse on windows though, that installer is bad
vagrant marlin
actually on linux too
node.js is horrifying, no matter the platform
little frost
i only ever switched to linux because i needed to be able to use all the memory on my system; but now i'm not switching back
vernal moth
That sounds like a virus
upbeat falconBOT
service.js by @keen yacht: https://paste.gg/5b60304747b94ffe8899bc9c3d33af3c
vagrant marlin
something seems off about what im seeing
coarse lily
i only ever switched to linux because i needed to be able to use all the memory ...
Because you don't care about memory anymore, or . . .?
vernal moth
Look, the guy talking about piracy earlier got a virus, how funny
little frost
Because you don't care about memory anymore, or . . .?
because i'm enjoying my new setup more
visual egret
something thats running on your pirate virus infested system
rapid mirage
hi
vagrant marlin
well hello
visual egret
probably a reverse shell too
vagrant marlin
you've had this on your system for quite long too then
visual egret
lmao
golden gust
Like, do note that many viruses will attempt to use semi familiar names to mask what they're doing
vagrant marlin
wonder how they host their vpn servers!
visual egret
reset the shit out of that system
vagrant marlin
i highly recommend fedora!
golden gust
like, it may be nothing, but, like, that name
that name specifically seems intended to disguise shit
vernal moth
How does one even have such a virus on their PC for years
vagrant marlin
fedora is the superior distro
visual egret
pop os just works though
vernal moth
And not notice
vagrant marlin
pop os just works though
fedora hasnt had a bug where the display server was deleted
visual egret
i have my dev environment set up and have not had to touch the terminal once
coarse lily
because i'm enjoying my new setup more
Which new setup?
vagrant marlin
ive heard you'll get a fedora sent by mail, look out for the fedora
coarse lily
You switch to linux to make better use of RAM, but now you're switching back to Windows because you like your Linux setup more? Or am I reading that wrong?
vagrant marlin
you are reading it wrong
little frost
no i'm not switching back..?
vagrant marlin
but now i'm not switching back
coarse lily
Haha I missed the NOT
Duh.
I thought you were like "Linux is great! I'm going back to Windows"
And I was very confused.
The key word there being "not" switching back.
ashen cliff
Daily reminder: https://posili.me/i/mwtDMBeV-2022-07-12_23-19-23.png
visual egret
did you contact your supplier
ashen cliff
Daily reminder from 2008: https://posili.me/i/DgLnTpKr-2022-07-12_23-19-44.png
vagrant marlin
will you contact your supplier
ashen cliff
I promise you, this obsolete driver has never caused me a blue screen: https://posili.me/i/pFv3SpZ9-2022-07-12_23-20-38.png
golden gust
My computers SD card slot
ashen cliff
No. I would never lie to you about something like that.
I would totally never, have a dedicated Raspberry Pi to use this adapter with. Never.
golden gust
I had this fun issue where windows would just BSOD when tryna boot
was debating on that I'd just reinstall the thing when I could be assed one day
a few days later I wanted to play GTA, booted up and it worked fine
came back a few days later, it kept BSOD'ing
vagrant marlin
microsoft isnt brave enough to stop gta gaming
golden gust
So, I had this suspicion
||I removed the SD card that I had left in my SD card slot|| and the thing booted right up, 0 issues
needless to say, I was pissed
warm anchor
microsoft isnt brave enough to stop gta gaming
chat report in gta soon 
vagrant marlin
i dont have any fire at hand
golden gust
golden gust
victory.jpg
ashen cliff
TF happened to gmaster?
So, they want you to use plasticscm now... but you can't even find the redirect anymore.
lilac moon
I thought of a new algorithm for my minesweeper mine generation
ashen cliff
RND()?
radiant mantle
Anyone know a texture pack that shows the saturation levels? Like if I have full hunger but I eat extra golden apples it highlights my hunger as yellow
magic river
The ETH Zurich researchers have conclusively shown that retpoline is insufficient for preventing speculative execution attacks. Their Retbleed proof-of-concept works against Intel CPUs with the Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake microarchitectures and AMD Zen 1, Zen 1+, and Zen 2 microarchitectures.
ashen cliff
mitigations=off.
magic river
Retbleed can leak kernel memory from Intel CPUs at about 219 bytes per second and with 98 percent accuracy. The exploit can extract kernel memory from AMD CPUs with a bandwidth of 3.9 kB per second. The researchers said that it’s capable of locating and leaking a Linux computer’s root password hash from physical memory in about 28 minutes when running the Intel CPUs and in about 6 minutes for AMD CPUs.
Retbleed is more than just a retpoline bypass on Intel, specially on AMD machines. AMD is in fact going to release a white paper introducing Branch Type Confusion based on Retbleed. Essentially, Retbleed is making AMD CPUs confuse return instructions with indirect branches. This makes exploitation of returns very trivial on AMD CPUs.
AMD get fucked, I guess
ashen cliff
Faster is better.
magic river
Intel: attack takes special conditions but they're somewhat easy to set up
AMD: lol jump
coarse lily
Here's a good argument to be on Zen 3 and Alder Lake +
magic river
They didn't say those are safe, they just didn't have any to test with I guess
coarse lily
They tried against Zen 3 and Alder Lake but it didn't work against them.
Coffee Lake / Zen 2 and older were impacted.
coarse lily
Yeah in the paper
As a general rule I don't read article abstracts since they're mostly sensationalistic.
abstract aspen
magic river
They weren't sure Alder Lake was safe but in their testing it was at least mostly safe
Zen 3 seemed to be safe from leaking kernel data but you could attack it (less reliably but still) to leak things from userspace processes
worn ember
Me who leaks memory on a daily bases: first time?
coarse lily
Zen 3 seemed to be safe from leaking kernel data but you could attack it (less r...
Yeah as of now they seem to be unaffected. It's possible the exploit can be modified. Seems like Coffee Lake Refresh and newer weren't able to be compromised.
radiant mantle
iirc appleskin the mod does that
Alt
magic river
So your camera is heading straight for the fuck it bucket?
ashen cliff
Well. It helps a bit, but yeah, already have a "new" one.
Probably going to use this one for something else.
At least it helps a bit with the top portion: https://posili.me/i/JHTyVBN4-2022-07-13_01-08-04.webm
candid nacelle
> Retbleed can leak kernel memory from Intel CPUs at about 219 bytes per second ...
this is cool and all but it doesn't affect people who were already running everything as root
vagrant marlin
when will the exploits end 
merry talon
oof, how many speculative execution patches do we have at this point
like are CPUs just down 50% from a couple years ago lol
magic river
My CPU can't keep up with my modded Skyrim
100% CPU utilization, 20% GPU
Ah, I should probably put a framecap on it, I don't need 144 Hz
ripe sphinx
hey did a mod delete this gem of a forum post (<#forum-feed message>) or did the author?
warm anchor
Violating community guideline yeah
ripe sphinx
fair enough I suppose...although now I'm trying to edit my comment to reflect that the comment I responded to was deleted, but "the requested post could not be found" love ya xenforo
magic river
oof, getting motion sickness from the chop
coarse lily
hey did a mod delete this gem of a forum post (<https://discord.com/channels/289...
I did.
warm anchor
Based
warm anchor
tropic flame
Ah, I should probably put a framecap on it, I don't need 144 Hz
laughs in 165hz
although I thought setting a framecap would only help if your GPU usage was too high, not the CPU
magic river
Elder Scrolls and Fallout games have the physics tick locked to the renderer tick
mild rune
I love the Bethesda engine!
upbeat falconBOT
mild rune
I've heard Starfield finally fixes that lock tho 
brave mountain
Webb telescope is a beast!!!
I've you thinking launch paper source code to the space so aliens can play Minecraft with performance?
lilac moon
Minecraft and performance do not belong in the same sentence
unkempt jackal
space aliens when they have to make a java runtime for their alien computers so they can play minecraft: 👽
lilac moon
thank you for specifying the aliens are from space
unkempt jackal
wanted to make sure I wasn't including Mark Zuckerburg
lilac moon
at least we're not from outer space
solid siren
Is oracle cloud free good to use for hosting?
warm anchor
small server no issues. it's a pretty much DIY solution though
golden gust
some caveats, make sure to read their offers things, etc
i.e. you may have to recreate the server after some time
solid siren
i.e. you may have to recreate the server after some time
why recreate?
golden gust
but, I mean, it's a pretty decent ARM CPU, but, it's still an ARM CPU
Because of how oracles offer works...
solid siren
It deletes ur server after some time?
golden gust
You get a trial account by default
once the trial is over you may need to recreate the server
warm anchor
the catch is that you are given 30 day free trials though nothing will happen after 30 days, instead, it happens on 60th day (as they give you 30 days grace period).
However, people have mixed report on how it is actually being handled. Some people has their instance deleted (and they have to remake from boot volume backup) and some never did (I never had to remake mine)
solid siren
So i need to save my server then just import it every 30 days
golden gust
No, then you're just a standard account which can either use the free offer
warm anchor
The free tier is ALWAYS free that part is true. You just need to ensure you pick the correct resource (ARM instance with 4 cores) and 24 GB rams max.
golden gust
It's just that switch when the trial ends
worthy geode
and their whole UI is a bit confusing imo, so its not really the easiest solution
warm anchor
I literally only use their OCI web UI to allow all ingress/engress traffic and that's it lol
solid siren
I see thank you very much
warm anchor
but yeah you can do a lot of magic there as many of the cloud provider does.
solid siren
Ill try
warm anchor
it's still a good learning experience
as you will be forced to learn the most basic linux admin stuff
just make sure you utilize the "boot volume" backup feature
so in case they do yeet your instance, all you need to do is remake via backups and a change of IPs.
warm anchor
and their whole UI is a bit confusing imo, so its not really the easiest solutio...
their oci feel like a team of a hundred people all working on their own small part of the task and someone just stich them together LOL
worthy geode
which is probably exactly how it went
swift tree
are one big server with many dimension better than many small for an aracade game ? (a bedwars)
I was thinking of that to reduce the number of a same copy of a single map in my dockers servers
warm anchor
coarse lily
how do disable automod
For here? You can't
coarse lily
I dunno. I'd try Googling it.
slate owl
i still want to have community server on
void void
In your server settings
coarse lily
Since that's all I'd be doing.
slate owl
I dunno. I'd try Googling it.
can i google with pencil?
coarse lily
I have no idea.
slate owl
well there is a bot called pencil ✏️
coarse lily
I can answer Paper and Minecraft questions. Don't know much about running your own Discord server.
Google's gonna be your best bet.
Or some other Discord about Discord or something.
upbeat falconBOT
smoky cloud
their oci feel like a team of a hundred people all working on their own small pa...
Can confirm
void void
coarse lily
What's this?
candid hare
coarse lily
Hello
cedar spade
Hello
ashen cliff
Hello.
void void
What's this?
Ionno, guy thought he could hide as a house fan that was pretty funny
Shit got grim towards the end tho, those were prolly his last few seconds alive or something
Or they beat him up bad
unreal parcel
Does anyone know how to make a discord activity timer that starts when the game starts?
worthy geode
isn't that done automatically when you include a start timestamp?
unreal parcel
isn't that done automatically when you include a start timestamp?
The timer only starts when I enter a start time.
worthy geode
yes, that is what I just said
sturdy halo
hello
unreal parcel
yes, that is what I just said
But I need the timer to start at 00:00.
lilac moon
just enter the timestamp now then
worthy geode
it should
unreal parcel
I will check
unreal parcel
it should
But this is not a solution. On restart, the timer continues and is not reset.
Are there any easy solutions?
worthy geode
Of course it continues
im not sure if you understand what the timer does.
It just counts the time since whatever timestamp you provided
so if you would like it to show a different time, just provide a different timestamp
unreal parcel
ok
worn ember
its morbin time
worn ember
worldgen moment
ashen cliff
PP.
lilac moon
Part Picker
ashen cliff
Ah cool. New memory frequency record just dropped: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qxDf5VUhRi8
https://hwbot.org/submission/5039077_ren_kei_yang_memory_frequency_ddr5_sdram_5297.1_mhz
candid nacelle
big pp <:RWuwu:396032814811971594>
It’s about relative size
worn ember
Ah cool. New memory frequency record just dropped: https://www.youtube.com/short...
powered by small nuclear power plant
ashen cliff
I mean, the CPU is barely running at 400 Mhz.
worn ember
why do you need 10Ghz ram then 
sturdy halo
he put ddr 5 in a power mac lol
charred sleet
that memory is bored
spiral robin
@mossy vessel hej 
solid siren
i need credit card to use oracle cloud free tier ?
mossy vessel
That is disclosed within their terms of service
solid siren
just wanna make sure xD
safe jackal
hello. I just have a question about eula. Can I sell real money in my /shop on my server for virtual money that players earn by for example mining, killing mobs, trading etc?
worthy geode
Mojang cares
that is a standard clause
you will find that in pretty much any ToS
By using the product you agree to their ToS.
If you don't agree to their ToS, you can not use the product
Thats like, very logical?
I don't see how this is abuse, thats just how pretty much any contract everywhere works
I don't see how that is related?
well, whatever. But if that is "abuse", literally every legal contract ever is "abuse"
🤔
lament patio
Stand against the ausive Paper EULA forcing tacos on us
worthy geode
No. Bans have always been a thing
Mojang added an ingame report menu, that can lead to bans
You could literally get banned in 2011
There has always been an online report form
Yes, and thats an entirely different issue than Microsoft and their ToS?
neon galleon
i have know two people who play bedrock regularly, one of them extremely homophobic, transphobic and racist
theyre still playing the game
worthy geode
Yes
neon galleon
so no, bedrock isn't even as bad as you think
- most chat plugins are likely not going to be compatible with the signed chat unless something major happen, which it hasnt
worthy geode
You always have the right to discontinue using a product, thats nothing new or special
neon galleon
i doubt they got banned for "nothing"
Youtube isn't the best source of data
either is reddit
mossy vessel
Yes 
worthy geode
looks at fitmc's completely wrong and outdated video
worthy geode
I still don't see how that relates to your original argument but whatever
neon galleon
people are arguing as if this is some politics/free speech issue when its the best selling block game that appeals to kids
worthy geode
its literally 1984!
lament patio
Cue literally nothing happening
neon galleon
literally 1984!
worthy geode
wheres the bingo
worthy geode
mossy vessel
Bottom right is wrong
neon galleon
should be 1.19
mossy vessel
1.6.2 is the last version I will ever use 
worthy geode
I hope I win a Microsoft account by completing the bingo
mossy vessel
Yes, you win the banned accounts
neon galleon
I hope I win a Microsoft account by completing the bingo
you get hired by microsoft
worthy geode
that seems like a punishment
lament patio
I hope it is
warm anchor
why would you be anti human right?
worthy geode
the hell is LBQT
neon galleon
no way!
mossy vessel
the hell is LBQT
I know BBQ
neon galleon
mossy vessel
What is that supposed to mean
warm anchor
You know there are better joke than degrading terms right?
worn ember
just call them weebs
worthy geode
Which government? the government of east timor?
mossy vessel
I recommend to stop spreading fuss about it
warm anchor
what's gov's favorite group?
worn ember
what's gov's favorite group?
minecraft players
neon galleon
its BTS from South Korea obviously
worn ember
i dont agree with the reporting system either but whatever you're saying makes no sense and makes you sound like you have no clue what you're talking about tbh
warm anchor
if you think the world is closing in on you and you cannot say certain things that you think its joke, you may want to reconsider maybe you are the asshole here? anyway this topic ends here @night parcel
worn ember
if you think the world is closing in on you and you cannot say certain things th...
whats socially acceptable constantly shifts, so either shift with it or get cancelled on twitter 
i'm ur mom
its valid till 2069
neon galleon
dont come back
worn ember
warm anchor
yeah let's not ping him so he doesnt come back 
worn ember
man running rtp on 1.16 feels so fast now compared to 1.18 and before it felt so slow compared to 1.12 
worthy geode
Just run it on 1.2
worn ember
Just run it on 1.2
sorry i dont support ancient versions
void void
"ancient"
ashen cliff
Not possible.
visual egret
glad to help remind you 👍
ashen cliff
I hate Discord.
visual egret
who doesn't
candid nacelle
I hate Discord.
go try skype
mental meadow
the 20000 thousand spam bots
latent sable
why is rain dripping through my ceiling
mental meadow
thank you discord for your good spam protection
latent sable
this is so annoying
ashen cliff
Make it 2 blocks thick?
ashen cliff
Do show.
latent sable
its a bit difficult to show that
damn it i figured it out
its the rain that drips off tree leaves
it goes straight through everything
there is a forest above my house
ashen cliff
Simple. Remove the forest.
limber knotBOT
lmao I thought irl xD
visual egret
that would be a sick house to have irl icl
ashen cliff
So, you could have a permanently leaking roof?
visual egret
that would be a sick house to have irl icl
golden gust
I mean, the window placement is kinda nice
golden gust
anybodies bunhole feel sore suddently?
ashen cliff
Maybe.
charred sleet
my bunhole is fine
full rune
same lol ^
void void
electroniccat needs fiber
unkempt jackal
pov: no fresh carrots and broccoli
stray nebula
how to own the libs
golden gust
old meme
void void
my bunhole is fine
im happy you have a healthy bunhole
golden gust
It was basically like a minced beef shaped into a baby
void void
less goo
pale robin
so when do we expect the update
i see bedrock got its update
had to update geyser :p
vestal jasper
the 1.19.1 update?
pale robin
you sure about that?
coarse lily
so when do we expect the update
No clue. Mojang is still doing pre releases. Still tweaking stuff. Could be a bit, but who knows?
vestal jasper
I'm very certain that they will release it between now and a few months from now
coarse lily
then why did they update bedrock
Bedrock is a whole different team/etc
coarse lily
I'm very certain that they will release it between now and a few months from now
I wouldn't be very certain of that given the delays already ;)
spiral robin
I'm very certain that they will release it between now and a few months from now
hmm yes this minecraft contains a lot of minecraft
true canyon
Bedrock update was just for allay dupe and bugs right? I wonder if they'll do a 1.19.1 with that and then shift things to 1.19.2-pre for the chat
pale robin
my thoughts aswell
they like to have both versions similar
i know they like to push stuff on thurdays
hence my asking
coarse lily
We have no inside info, unfortunately.
And those who do can't divulge publicly.
So we're all waiting clueless just like you.
pale robin
wouldnt suprise me tommorow they push 1.19.1
golden gust
bedrock is bedrock
pale robin
since they updated bedrock
golden gust
it's maintained by an entirely different team
true canyon
Sneak attack they release a 1.19.3 and say nothing.
coarse lily
Haha
pale robin
haha
golden gust
Until the point at which they post a release date, anything is pure pissing in the wind at this point
and, considering that sweden is seemingly about to enter it's yearly shutdown, lol
true canyon
Can you not pee into the wind during the shutdown? I'm unfamiliar with urination laws abroad.
pale robin
lol who cares about spain , besides the spanish and brits
golden gust
well, I don't care for the place
Like, sounds like a hell hole
but, like, ofc, brits love booze and being morons
So, you know
pale robin
yes indeed
hence why they like it
glad we got rid of them :p
lets make europe great again :p
golden gust
We can still visit the EU, lol
coarse lily
Like, sounds like a hell hole
I spent a week in Spain and it was quite nice.
But I wasn't boozing or being a moron (any more than usual)
cat if you had an all expenses paid trip to anywhere in the world, where would you go?
Other than "hell"
golden gust
That's a tough one
pale robin
Canada cause i can speak english and french , South africa cause i can speak english & dutch ( similar to zuid afrikaans ) , and australia to buy schrimp and put them on the barby
golden gust
I mean, theres many peeps I wanna go visit in the US
coarse lily
Like a big US roadtrip?
golden gust
But, then theres also places which look like they have some interesting spots in asia
that would be the dream
Visit a few peeps
pee through a few letter boxes
pale robin
meh usa , such a backward nation
golden gust
Like, that would be sweet
golden gust
to be fair, most places are backwards ass nations these days
pale robin
you can order them a cow pie and send it trough post
golden gust
Just, varying degrees and different directions of the swing
pale robin
you know their adresses if you wanna pee in their slot
pale robin
im sure they allow for personalised cards
besides they are welsh cowpies
finest grade
golden gust
oh god, reminds me of the old joke
pale robin
no that are sheep
golden gust
Well, yea, but my bestie in high school was like, part welsh
and I, by law, never let her live it up
desert iris
but, like, ofc, brits love booze and being morons
looks at florida
golden gust
there is a difference
desert iris
what one is worce
golden gust
depends on your views
desert iris
what for you
true canyon
At least the Brits are self aware!
golden gust
Sir
fallen oracle
Bahaha
golden gust
the only thing that I'm aware of now is that it's hot af and I'm sweating more than satans gonads
true canyon
Surely Satan would have adapted to the heat
fallen oracle
How much weight did you just lose jumping to conclusions that Santa means you're fat?
fallen oracle
Ur not fat
lament patio
There's definitely some software for that
vestal jasper
I'm pretty sure I had that issue before, it's weird
couldn't find a fix for it though
lament patio
What distro is this, out of curiosity?
vestal jasper
popos
lament patio
Oh ok
vestal jasper
Yeah on other distros where I had the issue there weren't any settings to control it
I don't think I've ever seen a setting for it tbh
true canyon
PopeOS? 🙏
foggy silo
I'd use KDe plasma, but yeah, scroll speed I haven't been able to figure it out.
true canyon
In all lowercase it looks like "popos" like - the popo (police)
A Linux distro that blocks piracy?
foggy silo
Basically I guess it's because some newer driver doesn't support modification, so you have to switch ur mouse to this older driver.
But, I never managed to get it to switch correctly.
vestal jasper
There's IMWheel ig, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/IMWheel
That, and device specific answers are all I've found
rip
Yeah I'd just blacklist chrome and use the extension
I don't think there's a simple solution for this
magic river
Pixel 6 get
Already unlocked the bootloader and rooted it so I can set the tethering noprovisioning flag
little frost
weird back bump for the camera
little frost
Already unlocked the bootloader and rooted it so I can set the tethering noprovi...
your provider can block tethering??? o.o
cunning raft
Got the safetynet stuff sorted too so I can still use Google Pay
what are you using?
fake props?
upbeat falconBOT
magic river
iirc it basically tricks the system in to thinking hardware attestation isn't a thing so that it can keep faking the software one
cunning raft
yeah overrides the system keystore to have it trust itself
only gonna work while safetynet is still a thing
play integrity won't have these types of bypasses assuming the app developer requests the higher level of security
brave mountain
Too tricky
Sometimes you'll need
https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/MagiskHidePropsConf
brave mountain
play integrity won't have these types of bypasses assuming the app developer req...
When it is coming?
magic river
My credit union app refuses to work just because adb is enabled
golden gust
use the 7/8 launcher
foggy silo
Apparently the file upload limit got bumped to 500mb on discord.. wow
tropic flame
if you have nitro, that is xd
foggy silo
Still that’s insane
golden gust
<windows7-hp-x64-1.12.iso> <windows7-hp-x64-2.12.iso>....
32 bit would only be 8 parts instead of 12
bronze fractal
old minecrafters know, though - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD95cwCM14Q
why was that uploaded in the lowest quality possible
anyways it's Cipher by Kevin McLeod
true canyon
!ban 304614054469697536 hate speech
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned asterW10#8080 (hate speech) [4 total infractions] -- mbaxter#1592.
foggy silo
♥️
true canyon
Still felt good to do
foggy silo
Thanks 🙂