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I guess since Windows Store lets you ship normal Win32 apps they just gave up on that platform
the indicator looks like this
and your plan is still as ridiculously impractical as before
I personal prefer wasting time on making my server actually better
I haven't said it won't work
how do you want to send a chat message using another player's key
You cannot fake message from other player
you could easily sign it with that player's key... but why bother lol
what
it will eventually be an expired key and you won't be able to renew it from the API
just send chat as not-chat-messages
Their implementation is moronic
I mean, they legally have to work on such a system
so, although their first attempts have been kinda moronic, it's still a work in progress system which isn't released yet
yes it does
I'm not sure it checks in a useful manner
I dunno why you want to avoid the indicator so much. You're essentially misleading people into thinking you haven't disabled chat reporting, just to remove a tiny gray bar
You wont be able to generate new public keys though
And you'd need to send the alts profile id too
but it sounds like you're actually gonna do it on a server
proof-of-concept would be cool I guess
there are plenty of ways to make reporting pointless
if you're making it not functional on one server no one really cares
no
They punish false reports
what
there is mutiple steps you hae to accidentally click for that to happen my friend.
I kinda hope that what they actually mean by that is that you'll get shadow-banned from the report system. Otherwise abusing the chat report system is just another way you can get banned
Which is great. It will get rid of those bad actors and those compromised account used by Minestorm
so does shadow banning from the report system
idk i don't mind pedophiles being removed from the platform entirely
a punishment for abusing chat reporting does not need to be as severe as punishment for these other categories, full stop
or other morons
This will literally not happen to anyone with a brain so I dont see how that could be an issue.
not having a brain isn't a great reason to get banned either
at least globally from minecraft as a whole
I mean, there are certain things which should get you yeeted from the platform
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again, no one has gotten a ban yet so we dont actually know what will happen. Let's maybe wait and see?
Not to say that I don't have huge concerns with their platform
ok jmp that's just cheating
I dunno it's just frustrating to see "oh yeah we'll only ban in the most extreme circumstances" and "yes you'll get banned for abusing chat reporting" alongside each other

but, I mean, governments are pretty much requiring that platforms step up their game in terms of moderation, etc
I'm not too concerned about small actions getting you banned seeing that they were so lenient with ban reasons
I mean, those are mutually exclusive
I mean, that's just dumb and solves nothing
there is no good way of doing it while staying anonymous
Mojang doesn't have peoples ages, etc
......
parental controls are kinda stupidly limited in how they're exposed and such
all ms accounts have an age associated with them
but they have the name of my first cat!
they know my favourite elementary school teacher D=
Mojang doesn't have access to your full microsoft account
so no Windows search minecraft integration? very disappointing
well that's just an organizational barrier not a technical one, could be removed to support an age restriction feature in server.properties
No, that's a technical one
- Mojang is not MS, and so they don't have access to stuff which the system doesn't expose in which they don't have direct access to
- The current system does not expose any of that information in public APIs, and that has many technical and legal limitations atm
- The entire system was not designed to deal with much of this mess and so is generally kinda stupidly limited in a sense
- the only way they could safely do this would be to client side it, which would probs be easily bypassable in a sense
imagine if you can convince someone to join your server and indirectly know if that person is underaged or not... 
oh god, the guy I used to work for years ago woulda loved that
LOLOLOL
but you can sell more skins to people that buy stuff with their parents credit card, thats a completely legit reason to know the age of someone /s
oh boy imagine if Mojang comes down on those instead of chat signing
blacklist already exist but they aint really enforced to the teeth yet
tbf every game does this as well 
...lets random people profit off of their work by selling loot boxes?
well, random?
Minecraft would be way less popular without its servers
I guess
So I really wouldn't say that some community servers shouldn't be able to profit from the game because they didn't make the game
I am just pointing out a very obvious abuse that can be done if the server gets to set age limit that pass official check from mojang.
it's an unusual strategy. I would think they'd try to protect their brand more even if enforcing it does make java servers slightly less active
majority of people I see have concerns about it
Large part of the Minecraft brand is "its a sandbox"
a few dozen server owners I see support it
not talking about chat reporting btw, talking about EULA / p2w
so coming down on servers with creative ideas that do things that aren't vanilla seems very counterproductive
There is a chunk of hate against it, but, I mean, last I looked for a "majority of the community is against this system!", nothing attracted more than like 200 posts
it makes it easier to moderate your server
it removes bad actor before they enter your community
it removes alts that can be used to abuse reporting
as a large community owner myself, I think those are all plus

problem is that the people who are against reporting, are very against it - e.g. wouldn't play on a server with it active
while on the other hand the people that support it played on servers without chat reporting for the past ten years and would continue to do so
literally 1984 /s
so supporting it means loosing players, while not supporting means everything stays the same
nah its gonna end up being a small % of players just like those who hates post 1.9 pvps
Part of the issues is that it has no idea who is talking
as I've said elsewhere, LGBT people have the best LGBT jokes, POC have the best POC jokes
yeah, its def not a majority, the majority of players simply doesn't care. But I also always tried to appeal to 1.8 players by having a combat system that is more similar to 1.8 - its a minority, buts its not noone
vocal minority is always going to be a thing espeically with howadays how social medias make it easy
as a fat fuck
my fave part about 1.9
is how they made moving around feel like a fat fuck
Bedrock PvP is different and weird
I don't think the server currently does any verification that things are signed by who they say they are but that isn't hard to add
Err, you have to send the UUID of who sent a thing so they can go look up the public key and verify the signature
Right now I think only the client does that lookup but the server could too
Well, yeah, just having a signature doesn't do anything useful, you need the key to verify it
Why would you send your own key to the server?
bleh, that is how it works
That's pretty dumb
I wonder what the public key looks like
They check the UUID now...
Is it an ASN.1 thing?
They could definitely stuff the UUID in the certificate (which is basically what this seems to be)
Assuming it has a chain of trust up to Mojang so you know it's real
I think it's actually sent as plaintext with PGP shield text format (don't remember what it's called) but I could be wrong
That's... not relevant?
Is it just the raw RSA key data or is it in some kind of container?
isn't the base64 data in those types of keys encoded as ASN.1?
I heard that there is an article I could find through this server that explains some stuff about logj4. I'm basically wondering, if I were to download a 1.7–1.17 server jar today (Minecraft, not 3rd party), would I get something that was fixed to get rid of the vulnerability, or would it be the same jar as before the vulnerability was discovered. Well I asked in the r/MinecraftServer discord server (that's where I was told about said article) and I was told that it's been "patched" but it is "still vulnerable". I'm wondering about the details of this matter. I am thinking of making a 1.7.10 server. I can't find the post, but I remember seeing someone somewhere say that these instructions [https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/important-message--security-vulnerability-java-edition] could actually cause issues.
hmm, I think either it's corrected or it will auto download new version of the library, but you can use this to be absolutely sure https://github.com/google/log4jscanner
I dunno if they ever patched for the follow up CVEs but I don't think those are exploitable unless you make a custom log4j2.xml
log4jscanner has a mode to automatically patch
Yeah I'm talking about vanilla.
Ideally, don't. because you will get tons of other issues in those outdated versions.
mojang also backported the fix only to the latest subversion iirc, so stuff like 1.16.3 or whatever is still vulnerable
Thank you all for the advice!
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Watch on Floatp...
Ah yes. Censored by the CCP. 
Troll less please.
@tired locust Hello
@static badge wow yall on payroll??
Needs more Microsoft Edge ads in #announcements
Edge is the best non-Firefox browser
Opera hasn't been a speedy browser for like a decade 😛
opera spends most of your CPU time sending your data off to a chinese company
(chrome spends most of your CPU time sending your data off to an american company)
I prefer Netscape Navigator, its great
I write better ruby than you any day of the week pal
probs an array of bytes
Ok
The best ruby is not writing ruby at all
(Cringe)
New nick @spiral robin what do you think
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Alright it's over now
pos3wink works great at this skill level :3
We generally prefer people not ask to join random servers.
Alr mb sorry
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dont really play her but very good in the right hands lol
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Did they correct cat, and then leave? 🤔
they couldn't resist the urge to ping
tbh it's so difficult, with cat being so pingable
What game is this
oh okay that's fine then
I do not understand why physics 2 is helpful at all in the field of computer science, can someone help me understand?
It is key for programmers to understand that apples fall because of gravity
its called a weeder course commonly
Because after you take some compsci courses under ancient professors who refuse to update their curriculum to modern software versions, that physics knowledge will let you dream even more complex torture methods while you sleep.
thats phys1
haha actually both compsci classes i’ve taken so far are in python3, although the amount learned was admittedly very little
That's good, though.
I've seen courses post-2020 in Java that insist on students using concepts that have been outdated since Java 7 release (which was 2011)
Yeah, I agree, having python3 required the course material to be somewhat new material. But next semester I have a java web dev course 
its a requirement
because every good developer makes their website using java
Is it waves and fields then, for 2phys2furious?
yeah
Java web dev...?
Wtf, are you gonna be using applets!? 😅
Unless this is just, backend stuff.
Maybe they want you building circuits and such.
I have no idea
I just want to learn some programming and stop with this stupid shit
lol
I guess its a pipedream to learn anything rustwise, but like come on
Some of the compsci lessons might assume you know Navier–Stokes equations or something and want you to make a simulator without having to teach you the algorithm
@grand pewter I will pop you like a blister
Ok
I'm considering just installing a 3rd party launcher
this microsoft xbox console integration with minecraft was so unnecessary
just makes it annoying for no reason to use multiple accounts
like for what reason
Use the windows 7 launcher
how?
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Holy shit someone shot Shinzo Abe
With a shotgun
how can they "pause" a smart contract? isnt the whole point once the cat is out of the bag it doesnt go back in?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Smart contracts are voodoo magic and I think most of these aren't on the ETH chain so the rules are probably different anyway
depending on the system used it likely has to meet certain criteria to be accepted by each node, and only upon being accepted by a majority of nodes does it become 'factual'. so the nodes probably have some check to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen
Yeah all these sidechains are more or less centralized anyway, I think?
They have all the blockchain overhead and use smart contracts to do swaps between them and a wallet on ETH or whatever but I'm not sure you can run your own node for them
Yeah I don't think you're allowed to mine binance or whatever though
the way it's worded makes it sound like a person or entity who paused it but I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a symptom of the way it was designed
Whatever chain the NFTs are on
oh I see, yeah idk then
shooting in japan are really rare iirc. thats very sudden and surprising. and apparently there are some major elections on sunday as well
Yeah he was out campaigning for someone
Not a fan of the picture on that one, embed go poof
a LOT of smart contracts have kill switches, defeating the entire idea behind "code is law"
and sometimes that kill switch is a switch to siphon off all the liquidity money and scam everyone
stuff like this is why almost the entire crypto community is a sham
well in the future we're all fucked due to global warming so who knows
maybe it is that future
Fr
How can you be so sure it's not latex as in gloves
ah yes, nothing like forcing a language to do something it was never made for
hey, if you can make it poop out html
Up next: Writing a game engine in Node.js
Imma enhance the HotSpot build system to let it compile to wasm
lmao
on second thought that would probably just result in an aneurysm so nevermind
That’s crazy
Although it would be plausible to write a JIT backend for WASM in HotSpot, I guess?
Then the compiler and such would just be compiled normally for WASM, standard clang stuff
iirc PyPy did something like that
Did you guys hear about Bun
Looks cool
Bun is basically Deno but JavaScriptCore instead of V8
Rent a small part of a skyscraper roof, to have a camera and long range AP there.
Fair price.
Get a huge bill.
Call.
Apparently using a lot of electricity.
Add a portable solar cell and power bank.
Disconnect their power from my setup.
Get charged even more.
Call.
They are now super mad about the fact I cough them.
Time to move it into a hill I guess.
vsc finally has 3-way merge editor
Question; What anticheat is better?
An anticheat using packets like Vulcan Anticheat or an anticheat that uses the default bukkit events like Spartan?
i think spartan uses some stuff from protocollib
From what I know it doesn't
once it is installed it does a little but at can run without it
its a softdepend
to be honest it doesnt really matter
something using packets can be worse than something using bukkit events and the way around
you can test both and use the one which is better for you
spoiler: both arent perfect
I know
Any anticheat has issues, either false positives or things that don't get flagged.
I am only gone use it to be able to send an allert to staff so they can investigate it
i run acaddition along with my anticheats
its a plugin that adds some checks that are not covered by popular anticheats
(like esp or inv move)
how does an mc ac combat ESP?
does it remove entities from the client when theyre not in view?
it hides players that are crouching while obstructed
Most likely Vulcan
I use Spartan, It false flags a lot.
Even on people with 12-18 ping while the servers TPS is 20
yea
I have no installed them both
but vulcan seems to flag way faster than spartan
I’d recommend you use GrimAC.
It doesn’t false flag as much compared to Spartan, And it has extremely good movement checks.
ive never had a good experience with spartan
It has some issues with boats, Although their not constant.
that was 2 years ago though
but it still costed 20 euros, 20 euros which i wasted.
Yeah
Vulcan is better imo.
I use it on a server I’m staff on
Can’t detect 0.6 hitboxes tho 💀
i use vulcan on my own server currently
will switch to grim when its considered ready
Yeah grim is pretty good.
Has some amazing movement checks
Couldn’t bypass it 1.8 or 1.19
1.8 🥱
lmao
if only anticheats didnt have to account for 10 different versions, and everyone used up to date versions!
imagine how good anticheats would be
💀
Yeah
Someone could just make an anticheat that only works for the current version there are already ones for others. :p
Would be very welcome
NCP probably still supports 1.5.2. 
most likely
I haven't needed to run anti cheat on my server yet we peaked at 17 players last weekend and the only cheating problem I've had so far is x-ray
If I start peaking at like 25-30 it'll prolly be more needed then.
how am I supposed to protect my MCPC server without NCP?! 

Thank you ShareX 14.0:
what version?
of the game
1.16.5
yea well
test server is on latest always
so it will work best on latest
why block autoclicker when you can use normal new pvp :p
Hi, does anyone have any idea how to create a custom Fabric Based Client in 1.8.8?
Is a GT 710 worth it if you have Intel HD graphics?
Are you looking to spend less then 10 bucks on a GPU?
If your budget is a GT 710 i think you should wait a bit before considering pc parts
At least get a GT 1030
GT 710. 
The most budget card id recommend is a gtx 1070, then you can actually enjoy games without paying a fortune
GT should be cars, not gpus
Trying to sell a 150€ GPU to someone with a 10€ budget.
Wha
What are they buying for 10
I rmemeber getting a 1050 ti for like $150 USD new a while ago
so...
Should have just gotten a GTX 1070 in that case. 
today 1.19.1?
Haha. Pre 4 maybe.
@ Microsoft Employee
Why
I have never found a game on my 1070 that was made unenjoyable by its outdated card
But my boy on a GT 1030 says its a life sucking abyss
That consumes your soul gradually as you attempt to enjoy games with others
I only play Minecraft
On a card with 2 gigs of vram good luck
Same price, better performance.
Oh I meant my 1050 ti
Oh
Was it the same price in like 2017 or so for the 1070
I thought you were the guy asking about at GT card
Lmao
snapshot time
waits for someone else to do the work and share the implementation of the chat message ordering
I just see ram and CPU usage increase
well @void void you had speculations about the cryptographic ordering, right?
yeah, am generating the diff rn
Yep, I think most chat reporting related stuff should be fixed now?
oh god it's a chatchain™️
Sus
The order of chat messages are now cryptographically verified
There we go
Can everybody now shut up about the system being exploitable?
🥳
let me know if you need any of the files mojmapped
🙏
I just spam Ping Kenny to do it for me ^^
i have a repo which decomps the game as soon as it comes out if you want an inv (dj uses the tool :) )
@foggy silo ^
ero is instant & mojmapped
kenny's just chucks it through vanillagradle
michael uses ci
I currently use a script that does that for me, it is pretty slow tho
i just use quiltflower now but it uses yarn intermediary mappings so it's a bit slow
i overengineered a bot which automatically decompiles the game if there's a new release
within 5m of it coming out
so it seems the way the chain works is the server sends a "chat header" which contains the previous message signature and previous sender uuid
and then that gets included into the message you send
is there a support or help channel?
three of them 
Lol thanks, I have a tool too
Yes this header is interesting
I know you liked the one I use :p
no more async chatting i imagine?
So it’s like another layer of authentication for player messages
considering the message headers must be in order
Yesss
Jackson could I have an invite perhapss?
already invited
❤️
mind shooting me an invite aswell?
isn't chat on a single thread? just not the main one
Ok
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Thanks ♥️
Michael sniping me smh
ty 
recommended server providers?
@twin lagoon gdpr check
@spiral robin account removal system check
@twin lagoon (not my job)
does the server inform the client for every message including ones it doesn't see?
Yes
hm
Only the headers are broadcast ofc
i imagine this is still subject to data races, does the client just resend or something?
client signs it's own message chain currently
i suppose i should just read the diff myself on monday lol
@cedar spade hi 🙂
@spiral robin 🙂
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Recommended proxy server providers?
java lore
Ok but forge??
I mean, you said fabric
if you want forge, go look at the MCP kit thing from then
But, like, stupidly outdated unsupported software is stupidly outdated unsupported software
Recommended proxy server providers?
either use a shared host, or get a VPS from somewhere localish
Let's talk about Minecraft 1.19.1 player chat reporting - a great tail of drama
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Technical details about chat signing: https://gist.github.com/kennytv/ed783dd244ca0321bbd882c347892874
Gotem. 
worst youtuber kenny television
wtf kenny go back to streaming
Nice video kenny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zq0vz4-Tio this is my favorite video from kenny television
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@viral hornet thoughts
I can finally install 1.7 shaders thanks kenny
https://youtu.be/SuQLbXoCIBE lowest point of kenny's channel
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❌ V...
lucky block videos
bless
melon
It's nice
Not as nice as Kenny's video tho!
I'm not sure it needs both an orange and a green skin layer
i guess ill remove the green, thats what most people seem to be talking abt
[ ] finish hangar
This is work stuff, no hangar here ^^
sorry, it's friday, can't control my wild side.
Right, it's Friday, 1800, maybe I should consider going home, lol
is anyone else feeling like, very strong meme potential in this one ?
See the way it works is that Mini will go home from work today and then finish Hangar tonight.
Why he look like Steve from bluesclues?
lmao 😂
oh my god
actually literally kenny on his way to get the paycheck from mojang for supporting chat reports
massive potential
Currently, yes, subject to data races
POV: When Paper hard forks
wouldnt have believed it, we always thought that kenny's only entrance to his prison was through a curtain!
There is no table though
the benefactors havent provided a table to kenny
@quasi valley sir I am from the beautiful country of Germany is there Germany language available for the video??
I love the memes here so far

@quasi valley how does it feel to be a reaction image
not sure yet 
you'll be interviewed by a boomer news outlet in 8 months
@quasi valley
You can tell that Kenny is unpaid, by the camera quality. 
xDDD
kenny buy new camera with the real free will you are given
protip: the modern launcher sucks, use the 7/8 one
Can probably get a Kinect v2 for free.
7/8?
Except what you don't know is that I have to up the saturation of the camera every time I restart my pc because I it makes everything look close to black and white by default for some reason
yes
kenny is so rich with all his unpaid intern money that he has TWO pianos
on the downloads page for MC
ive got an original kinect, used it for online school
do YOU have TWO pianos
has an amazing camera
they offer both launchers, the older one deals with multople accounts, etc, better
one for serious play, one for causal useage
I have the V2. It was amazing. 
was 😳
Yeah, currently connected to my Kodi box, so... it doesn't really work as a camera anymore. 
has anyone tried photogrammetry?
Yes.
Since it did it with the Kinect, it went well.
Also tried with my phone once... not that well.
using 3DF
But you need a lot of light usually.
yeah it works better with light
2/5 video
can't have a piano in a video without playing it
who suggested me to erase ubunt hard drive while mc running
idk who but I’d like to suggest that too
i did it
send proof or it didn’t happen
Reading dd'd hurt
mpv go brr
can’t tell if iOS or my data is being shitty
both
when it didn't?
download it from mojangs website not the microsoft store its the same thing just not bad
i can
it's true and it's so funny
@little frost
hmpf
What does this mean?
Custom servers can hide player chat messages from display via a new network packet
will it allow for servers to have delete message plugins?
Yes, without disrupting the chain of messages I guess
Wonder if retroactive deletion is a thing too. Could allow for a chat moderator to delete a message afterwards 
That would be nice
i..is that not that feature is?
no no, it removes existing messages from the chat "gui" thing
Wonder if it'd work for system messages
don't think so, you pass it a messagesignature or whatever
Well “deletion” since it’s still there technically just hidden
yeah i guess, it removes it from the chat itself, but like it's still logged lol
Still nicer than resending the entire chat like some chat plugins do for that
Ah, shame
oh abso-fucking-lutely
and spamming god so many megabytes of logs to the client 
Yeah having proper chat removal is nice
If you can yeet system messages to that'd be pretty sick
Now if there was a way to undo a deletion it would be even better
Then you could temporarily hide messages and then unhide them later, that would be great
perfect: blinking chat
Makes me wonder how the message ordering thing deals with different chat channels
How would you go about implementing something like a local chat, were players might get out of range and back into range
I wonder if mojang has considered making the server sign system messages, that way they can block the server if the server is just sending rude things as system messages
If the server is sending rude things I would recommend the disconnect button
i mean relating chat a system messages
that's basically /teammsg, no?
so like the concept of "channels" already exists, just make it in a plugin and implement a signed argument command or w/e
If leaving and rejoining the team works, true
wdym?
Leaving and rejoining a team would be the same as getting out of range/in range for local chat. So if the teammsg command supports that, local chat should be possible as well
also the delete chat message packet handling doesn't early-return on an empty signature lmao
Mojang literally offers two versions of the launcher
the older one deals with some of the complaints around MSA much better
dinnerbone was here
That's some nice thread
Nice story
That's creative for sure
ouch that hurts
Do unbreaking levels scale indefinitely
The Minecraft wiki even has the formulas for it
uh yes that's basically what minecraft does now? but with signatures only
hugo award
I finally have a UPS on my desk
Estimated battery life is about 30 minutes for my current load and it claims to be mostly charged
That's a bit less than I expected, I was estimating more like an hour
It a real heavy fucker
Yeah they're surprisingly large/heavy for the relatively small amount of reserve you get. Computers use a lot of damn power.
I generally don't plug display power into the UPS. That way if there's an outage I can opt to plug it in to get the display up and power down. But if I'm not in front of the thing I'm not burning through extra power and wasting minutes/etc on something I don't need.
I just plugged the whole desk in to it, it's an adjustable height desk so doing more would require more cords running from the desk to floor (which is awkward due to the height change) or putting the UPS on the desk
@proud dagger may i ask you something on priv message very important please
no, blocked.

Based.
understandable, have a nice day
My UPS has enough things plugged in that I can continue with my work for about 10 minutes before I gotta properly close out of anything.
Hey, say I'm pre-release and I would like to measure if my server will be able to hold a certain amount of players, is it possible for me to do that? How many factors are in play, I know about obviously the number of the players, the cpu, and memory, but what else? If anyone here could help me would be great, I need my server to be stable when the release happens.
Then my modem/router only UPS can power that for like 3ish hours
There's no great way other than experience and tossing actual players on it.
yes
Not even a rough estimate?
Yeah I plugged it into a PC when I first got it and it reported a runtime of a little less than 3 hours. It's a pretty small one. I really only need my internet alive for enough time to tell people I lost power because once I lose internet I have no outside contact 

I like reporting people too
Especially the person below me

Not really, no. There's no good way to simulate what players will actually. You can get a bunch of friends to toss them on the server and see how things behave, but if you don't have a bunch of "I've run this setup before with X hardware and Y users" data already then you're basically winging it.
Less than 1000
Probably more than 3.
In between? Varies wildly.
@spiral robin Hello!
hi guys, what is the best open source mc client, that has some sort of built-in anticheat? i want to fork and create a client for my server.
@warm anchor weeb
We don’t support piracy here.
okay, updated my question
Not aware of any that fits all your requirements.
weeb.
paper team and they made up titles...
ok
Germany says it is at Japan's side after Abe dies https://t.co/olcCUkoynH
2181
277
All joke aside yeah that’s a rare case of political assassination in japans happened yesterday
He was shot and killed during a speech. He was the longest running PM
Yeah that's pretty terrible.
apparently with a self-made or modified gun, pretty scary
It was a low security area too. Video can be seen that suspect was right behind exPM for a while before the act
I guess unlike in the west, they don’t expect this type of thing to happen so they only have minimum securities around
the really extreme security seems to be mainly a US thing
I remember that someone stole Merkel's wallet last year while she was shopping, so it can't be that strict 
Well yeah our criminal is armed to the teeth
that’s gonna be such a great story to tell (not endorsing such act but that’s hella funny)
Nothing stops a pickpocket better than having a wallet chain and a .45 acp pistol on your side.
What if they steal your pistol
or the wallet chain, with me attached?
For chat signing, as I understand it, the client will sign whatevers in the chat preview, but does that chat preview ever have to contain the actual text that they said?
Really depends on the holster
or if your doing conceal carry
that sounds illegal
not in new hampshire it isnt
well, glad im not there
Malfdador isn’t American enough

Yeah, new hampshire is constitutional carry, and it will vary in other states
some do open only, others do conceal only
I don't think you are allowed to carry weapons in public here at all
which state/country?
Germany
ah, thats likely a no
ah, apparently you technically can if you can proof that you are in danger in public in some way (e.g. you work for a security service or something). But that seems very rare
ie private military or security detail
exceptions for politicians and the like
tf is a private military 
That sounds like something from a civil war country
Military contractor is a thing here
but they mainly operate oversea
ah sorry, the better term is security contractors
they operate outside of the typical military structure
@warm anchor @mental meadow weebs

The more I learn about the US, the weirder it gets 😄
are there any server side "auto-clicker" mods for paper? a la carpet's "/player attack" command?
new paper chan stickers??
The server can change it however they want, but what's in the chat preview on the client is what's signed
:/ I liked that idea
Maybe "terrorism" got caught in a word filter or something, lol
It'd be cool if the report UI could be utilized by servers tbh
iirc there is an approval process, so if that was the case it probably wouldn't have passed that
Although if that packet got added I can see servers who hate the report system just auto banning anyone who reports messages

I see
Eh, servers can store all chat logs much easier, it would probably not be as useful
Eh maybe not the context system but like an easy way to report instead of trying to find a report system for said server
True that would be nice
and server staff can react within minutes, while Mojang probably won't be able to do that
It's definitely a system they can expand on but I'll wait for them to iron out their current issues 
Yes that’s why the release had been pushed back and we are on prerelease 3 again
so couldnt you just send the same message in a custom font to make checking chat reports a pita?
because then you would have to transmit the custom font too
I have zero hope that they'll add a report packet to the protocol now that my feedback post has been censored
I guess..?
There's been a few complaints about chat previews, I'm wondering if they'll also sign the original message with it
If they don't already
When they can't even get human review for the feedback forum properly, it breaks my confidence that they'll get chat report bans right
Feels like every other big corporation I've had to interact with
I think it does in pre2. When you hover over the chat signing icon next to a message, it shows the original message
so I think it's sending a copy of the original message that is also signed
it seems like they'll work out all of the context/faking issues
Ofcoz they will. They are actively addressing issues
Yeah they seem to be tackling issues people are finding with it
Otherwise a release won’t be delayed on one day notice
the ' most replayed ' feature on YouTube is kinda weird
it was stolen from pornhub I'm pretty sure
Wonder where most clicked will be for commentiquette since nobody wants to skip the ads 🤔
Trying to swap a bigger drive into my Mac Mini G4...
Need an adapter to fit a SATA disk inside...
Already have the adapter since like 2010, just chilling in the drawer. 
Could actually be from before, the chipset already existed back in 2003... Not the fastest thing around, but it will do the job. 
https://elections.ulstercountyny.gov/i-voted-sticker-contest have you guys seen this sticker contest?
wait am i breaking rules hold on mods please don't ban yet
Whatever works, but yeah, thankfully it doesnt force snapd like ubuntu is doing
and netplan...
now only if we can toss out cloud-init
cloud-init is fine wtf do you mean
snapd & netplan is ass yes
cloud-init might just be the only sane canonical project
I've tried to use red hat/fedora and always ran into issues. Always have had better luck with Ubuntu/Debian.
debian epic
I'm the guy with an @ubuntu.com email address but I use Fedora 😄
windows is the best distro
agreed
@waxen panther Who are you
Someone posting dumb gifs.
damn bro kenny dancing in 2030
Problem?
go home windows, you're drunk
Real
Paper has been copied
Whichever dependency decided to make @C an annotation in the paper project is evil
bro
why tf
actually evil
is @Celsius taken?
no
🤦♂️
I'm making a Minecraft minigame and I'm looking for a plugin that allows me to only certain tools break certain blocks. I can't use adventure mode because the tools need to be traded by a villager. If anyone know one that would be great
You can't trade with villagers in adventure mode? That's stupid
i think u can. I just need for instance all iron pickaxes to be able to mine cobblestone but with adventure mode, if you get an iron pickaxe from a villager it doesn't work because you need to run a special command to allow it to do so.
You just need to add cobblestone to the minable or whatever it's called nbt tag of that pickaxe. There are plenty of examples online on how to do that
And of course you want to add it to the villager. That's possible using commands as well, or by using a plugin like Shopkeepers
ok so would this be impossible to do with naturally spawning villagers?
No, that is of course also possible. You said Minigame so I was assuming there is no natural spawning.
There are plugins to modify villager trades, you could use one of those
ok do you know the name of one of these plugins
No, I don't, sorry
alright thank u for the help
I finally caved and bought a Pixel 6, should be here in a couple days
If it's not a rotary phone I'm not interested.
Was going to wait and get a 6a but decided I couldn't go back to 60 Hz
Now that the Twitter deal is dead there is an interesting theory that the whole thing was just a ruse to give Musk an excuse for selling billions of Tesla stock without scaring people off and tanking its insanely overinflated price
It tanked anyway, I think harder than the market average (everything was/is tanking), but perhaps it would have been even worse if it looked like the owner was trying to bail
Is ECC RAM beneficial to hosting a Minecraft server?
I mean, ECC is always great to have. The tradeoff is that it's more expensive and slower. I don't think it matters either way for Minecraft though
is there a maintained alternative to jdiff?
not unless you use some form of software raid, minecraft itself? no
fbi wants to know your location
Amaranth pls
tsa also wants to know your location
Now they want to know your location 😄
I'm . . . just gonna delete those messages
I never saw condoms in an airport store
I definitely have
This is yet another reason we should get rid of those "single use" lithium batteries they sell for recharging your phone
🤔
You saw nothing
I didn't teach anyone how to make a thing in a place
To make a rust application
open cargo
and do "cargo new urmomgood"
then "cd urmomgood"
and "nano src/main.rs"
(do the funny)
and finally "cargo run"
That's not what I thought it looked like
I thought the phone part rotated on a pedestal
its like a kids toy! you can play with it!
Like this but vintage
https://c.tenor.com/AJa3d1_r5RMAAAAM/spin-the-phone-the-six.gif
Exactly
im sorry What
i need an artist rendition of this
Yeah I'm a little stumped here, too.
here is a case in favor of ECC RAM https://danluu.com/why-ecc/
the problem with non-ECC RAM is rare failures that can pretty much cause anything to happen on the software side -- could trigger a crash, or could flip something in a program to start doing silent but deadly corruption on a bunch of data
things that don't have ECC RAM: phones
Thanks
the funny thing about those benefits is that they're really hard to quantify
you can't exactly put a dollar cost on the vague possibility of a huge data corruption event
Same with backups
and of course, nobody has studied non-ECC RAM on minecraft server software specifically
yep
like backups, having ECC RAM is an assurance
Getting backups is my next goal 😛
I've got a UPS, now I need to get another one for my modem, router, and (once I finish building it) my NAS
Haven't decided if I'm going to go AM5 and Ryzen 7000 for it or just put my current desktop parts in there but those parts will only be freed up once I get a Ryzen 7000 for my desktop so either way I'm waiting
You can see the phone ontop of the circle that's spinning right
Then I can stop feeling like a hypocrite when I tell people they should have had backups
Just use car battery
Yes.
Rotary phones used a simple encoding, 1 pulse is 1, 2 pulses is 2, etc, 10 pulses is 0 and went at a rate of 10 pulses a second which means every 0 you had to dial you had to wait a whole second for that wheel to stop turning before you could dial the next number
Neat, you could also rapidly hang up the phone at a rate of 10 times a second and dial manually
In the United Kingdom, it used to be possible to make calls from coin-box phones (payphones) by tapping the switch hook without depositing coins.
TIL that this is a thing that exists
very popular in asia
I've got one in my cupboard for spices
primary used for restaurant but idk how it would be now with covid though 
Seems like the kind of thing my grandma probably owns because she has all the weird kitchen/dining things 
aaaah
set up backups, YESTERDAY
Who is Suzan and why is she lazy
can we get a video of you rapidly hanging up the phone at a rate of 10 times per second
Yeah that worked a lot with payphones and stuff that supported tone and pulse
Does anyone know a platform where I can track one specific analytic of data on a daily basis and it’d have neat things for me to view over the course of a month like a summary or somethin
The data is just a number
Google Data Studio ❤️
the self build solution for that would be grafana I guess
but data studio is straight up amazing
Hannah!
you are here too
electroniccat, how do you manage to stay productive?
i am very unproductive especially if there is something putting me down
Cat productive?

i write my plugins using Spigot but my SMP runs Paper :P
I just wasted an hour on a reaaallly stupid issue with hangar
wtf
turns out, importing something is worse than not importing it
hmm
so to compensate the anger I just ordered a giant burger 😄
projects, lol
boring >:(
you can play with it here if you want https://hangar.benndorf.dev/
uff
I feel your pain, kebaab place from 1.5km away usually needs around 1.5h to get to me
We've got his location
I think he posts his home address like weekly
you can't get doxxed if you doxx yourself 
ahh i see
thinking 5 steps ahead
happy holidays
türkiye
the 9 day holiday has begun.
o7
I just hope somebody sends me cake :/
sad
You meant beer?
Jesus, I slept for 11 hours or something
and really wish I was still sleeping
Having explored the smaller version of this product I also bought the full sized extra-lust version directly from rubber-maid. I think they may have caressed it in their groin before they sent it, because it was EXTRA juicy. (I may have had some wine.)
This unit also uses the fantastically simple gas generating electrochemical cell to squeeze...
I wish you were still sleeping too, cat
Thought I could leave the rugs out for a whole day but no
guess how old is this book which I found somewhere on a shelf
MFW it doesn't support disks above 128GB: 
Well, it works if you reboot 3 times....
No idea how that works.
old
when were UUID's introduced?
1.7.2
thanks
And seven years later there are still plugins.. xD
:wheeze:
is it spigot or paper then
paper
rate my algorithm
@mossy vessel working on the weekend ??
SportPaper is actually good. 
No, this is for personal use :P
Good
Which ends up as contribution anyway 
Smh
Imagine working on personal projects, unacceptable
Please ask Purpur for support, that's not Paper
Optifine 1.19 Snapshot - fully customiseable gameplay xD
Optifine 

fuck I opened up all windows and somebody is having a bbq somewhere and now my whole flat smells like bbq
and am hungry
Find out who and join them
best server rack
Got like 5. 
@void void
uwu
What happened to gecko10000
that chicken has some pretty nice shoes
drip
Python answers, examples, and documentation
ingenious
i should also encrypt passwords in b64
hm
lan server is interesting
it doesnt have authentication but shows skins on the tablist
iirc offline dedicated servers don't show skins in tablists at all
huh, never knew lan servers don't have auth
this is how i used to play with my real life friends in minecraft
1.8 lan definitely has auth
thats cool
lan server is slightly different from normal offline mode servers
its like online mode server but allows unauthenticated accounts
Only the online mode of your client matters to the client, to show the tab correctly.
As long as the client is in online mode, the server can just pretend to be online.
but like the lan server has correct uuid for authenticated players
wait this may be false, it probably doesnt use the correct uuid if a second authenticated player joins
this is very interesting: http://ameliorated.info
I remember seeing it a bit ago, but whats that pastebin that supported java stack traces
This seems paranoid tbh
frikandel
True but it also cuts down on a lot of bloat and supposedly increases performance
!ban @timber spear bye
:raised_hands: Banned Just-ice#1701 (bye) [1 total infraction] -- MiniDigger#3086.
that was case 23456 😄
They were in the code at 1.7.2 😉
but unused/unusable, I assume?
It's actually pretty cool for VMs.
A very clean Windows install.
doesn't sound like "introduced" to me
Introduced means first added, not the whole system being done
I remember seeing it a bit ago, but whats that pastebin that supported java stack traces
auth servers down for anyone else?
this is why i don't rely on mojang authentication!! 
Can't be down, if you use AuthMe. 





