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magic river
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They also dropped support for making UWP apps

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I guess since Windows Store lets you ship normal Win32 apps they just gave up on that platform

bronze fractal
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the indicator looks like this

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and your plan is still as ridiculously impractical as before

limber knotBOT
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I personal prefer wasting time on making my server actually better

bronze fractal
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I haven't said it won't work

twin lagoon
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how do you want to send a chat message using another player's key

warm anchor
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You cannot fake message from other player

limber knotBOT
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you could easily sign it with that player's key... but why bother lol

twin lagoon
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what

bronze fractal
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it will eventually be an expired key and you won't be able to renew it from the API

limber knotBOT
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just send chat as not-chat-messages

golden gust
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Their implementation is moronic

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I mean, they legally have to work on such a system

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so, although their first attempts have been kinda moronic, it's still a work in progress system which isn't released yet

bronze fractal
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yes it does

golden gust
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I'm not sure it checks in a useful manner

cunning raft
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What if a player says something bad

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And the account gets banned

bronze fractal
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I dunno why you want to avoid the indicator so much. You're essentially misleading people into thinking you haven't disabled chat reporting, just to remove a tiny gray bar

cunning raft
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You wont be able to generate new public keys though

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And you'd need to send the alts profile id too

bronze fractal
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but it sounds like you're actually gonna do it on a server

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proof-of-concept would be cool I guess

twin lagoon
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there are plenty of ways to make reporting pointless

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if you're making it not functional on one server no one really cares

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no

lament patio
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They punish false reports

twin lagoon
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what

warm anchor
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there is mutiple steps you hae to accidentally click for that to happen my friend.

bronze fractal
# lament patio They punish false reports

I kinda hope that what they actually mean by that is that you'll get shadow-banned from the report system. Otherwise abusing the chat report system is just another way you can get banned

warm anchor
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Which is great. It will get rid of those bad actors and those compromised account used by Minestorm

bronze fractal
twin lagoon
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idk i don't mind pedophiles being removed from the platform entirely

bronze fractal
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a punishment for abusing chat reporting does not need to be as severe as punishment for these other categories, full stop

twin lagoon
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or other morons

warm anchor
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This will literally not happen to anyone with a brain so I dont see how that could be an issue.

bronze fractal
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not having a brain isn't a great reason to get banned either

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at least globally from minecraft as a whole

golden gust
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I mean, there are certain things which should get you yeeted from the platform

warm anchor
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again, no one has gotten a ban yet so we dont actually know what will happen. Let's maybe wait and see?

golden gust
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Not to say that I don't have huge concerns with their platform

warm anchor
bronze fractal
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I dunno it's just frustrating to see "oh yeah we'll only ban in the most extreme circumstances" and "yes you'll get banned for abusing chat reporting" alongside each other

warm anchor
golden gust
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but, I mean, governments are pretty much requiring that platforms step up their game in terms of moderation, etc

lament patio
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I'm not too concerned about small actions getting you banned seeing that they were so lenient with ban reasons

golden gust
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I mean, those are mutually exclusive

worthy geode
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just ban everyone, problem solved

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online age verification is ehhh

golden gust
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I mean, that's just dumb and solves nothing

worthy geode
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there is no good way of doing it while staying anonymous

golden gust
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Mojang doesn't have peoples ages, etc

spiral robin
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......

golden gust
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parental controls are kinda stupidly limited in how they're exposed and such

bronze fractal
worthy geode
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but they have the name of my first cat!

spiral robin
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they know my favourite elementary school teacher D=

golden gust
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Mojang doesn't have access to your full microsoft account

worthy geode
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so no Windows search minecraft integration? very disappointing

bronze fractal
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well that's just an organizational barrier not a technical one, could be removed to support an age restriction feature in server.properties

golden gust
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No, that's a technical one

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  1. Mojang is not MS, and so they don't have access to stuff which the system doesn't expose in which they don't have direct access to
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  1. The current system does not expose any of that information in public APIs, and that has many technical and legal limitations atm
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  1. The entire system was not designed to deal with much of this mess and so is generally kinda stupidly limited in a sense
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  1. the only way they could safely do this would be to client side it, which would probs be easily bypassable in a sense
warm anchor
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imagine if you can convince someone to join your server and indirectly know if that person is underaged or not... OMEGALUL

golden gust
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oh god, the guy I used to work for years ago woulda loved that

warm anchor
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LOLOLOL

worthy geode
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but you can sell more skins to people that buy stuff with their parents credit card, thats a completely legit reason to know the age of someone /s

warm anchor
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oh boy imagine if Mojang comes down on those instead of chat signing

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blacklist already exist but they aint really enforced to the teeth yet

worthy geode
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tbf every game does this as well kek

bronze fractal
worthy geode
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Minecraft would be way less popular without its servers

bronze fractal
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I guess

worthy geode
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So I really wouldn't say that some community servers shouldn't be able to profit from the game because they didn't make the game

warm anchor
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I am just pointing out a very obvious abuse that can be done if the server gets to set age limit that pass official check from mojang.

bronze fractal
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it's an unusual strategy. I would think they'd try to protect their brand more even if enforcing it does make java servers slightly less active

golden gust
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majority of people I see have concerns about it

worthy geode
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Large part of the Minecraft brand is "its a sandbox"

golden gust
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a few dozen server owners I see support it

bronze fractal
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not talking about chat reporting btw, talking about EULA / p2w

worthy geode
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so coming down on servers with creative ideas that do things that aren't vanilla seems very counterproductive

golden gust
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There is a chunk of hate against it, but, I mean, last I looked for a "majority of the community is against this system!", nothing attracted more than like 200 posts

warm anchor
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it makes it easier to moderate your server
it removes bad actor before they enter your community
it removes alts that can be used to abuse reporting

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as a large community owner myself, I think those are all plus

worthy geode
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problem is that the people who are against reporting, are very against it - e.g. wouldn't play on a server with it active

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while on the other hand the people that support it played on servers without chat reporting for the past ten years and would continue to do so

smoky cloud
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literally 1984 /s

worthy geode
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so supporting it means loosing players, while not supporting means everything stays the same

warm anchor
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nah its gonna end up being a small % of players just like those who hates post 1.9 pvps

golden gust
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Part of the issues is that it has no idea who is talking

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as I've said elsewhere, LGBT people have the best LGBT jokes, POC have the best POC jokes

worthy geode
warm anchor
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vocal minority is always going to be a thing espeically with howadays how social medias make it easy

golden gust
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as a fat fuck

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my fave part about 1.9

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is how they made moving around feel like a fat fuck

worthy geode
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Bedrock PvP is different and weird

magic river
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I don't think the server currently does any verification that things are signed by who they say they are but that isn't hard to add

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Err, you have to send the UUID of who sent a thing so they can go look up the public key and verify the signature

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Right now I think only the client does that lookup but the server could too

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Well, yeah, just having a signature doesn't do anything useful, you need the key to verify it

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Why would you send your own key to the server?

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bleh, that is how it works

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That's pretty dumb

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I wonder what the public key looks like

ashen cliff
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They check the UUID now...

magic river
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Is it an ASN.1 thing?

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They could definitely stuff the UUID in the certificate (which is basically what this seems to be)

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Assuming it has a chain of trust up to Mojang so you know it's real

bronze fractal
magic river
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That's... not relevant?

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Is it just the raw RSA key data or is it in some kind of container?

bronze fractal
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isn't the base64 data in those types of keys encoded as ASN.1?

void void
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I heard that there is an article I could find through this server that explains some stuff about logj4. I'm basically wondering, if I were to download a 1.7–1.17 server jar today (Minecraft, not 3rd party), would I get something that was fixed to get rid of the vulnerability, or would it be the same jar as before the vulnerability was discovered. Well I asked in the r/MinecraftServer discord server (that's where I was told about said article) and I was told that it's been "patched" but it is "still vulnerable". I'm wondering about the details of this matter. I am thinking of making a 1.7.10 server. I can't find the post, but I remember seeing someone somewhere say that these instructions [https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/important-message--security-vulnerability-java-edition] could actually cause issues.

bronze fractal
magic river
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I dunno if they ever patched for the follow up CVEs but I don't think those are exploitable unless you make a custom log4j2.xml

bronze fractal
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log4jscanner has a mode to automatically patch

void void
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Yeah I'm talking about vanilla.

worthy geode
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Ideally, don't. because you will get tons of other issues in those outdated versions.
mojang also backported the fix only to the latest subversion iirc, so stuff like 1.16.3 or whatever is still vulnerable

bronze fractal
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log4jscanner can do both checking and fixing

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so that's where I'd start

void void
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Thank you all for the advice!

magic river
ashen cliff
coarse lily
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Troll less please.

magic river
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Same

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I can't tell if this is Poe's law or not

twin lagoon
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@tired locust Hello

warm anchor
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@static badge wow yall on payroll??

lament patio
magic river
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Edge is the best non-Firefox browser

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Opera hasn't been a speedy browser for like a decade 😛

bronze fractal
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opera spends most of your CPU time sending your data off to a chinese company

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(chrome spends most of your CPU time sending your data off to an american company)

worthy geode
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I prefer Netscape Navigator, its great

spiral robin
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I write better ruby than you any day of the week pal

candid nacelle
spiral robin
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Ok

peak ginkgo
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The best ruby is not writing ruby at all

spiral robin
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(Cringe)

peak ginkgo
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New nick @spiral robin what do you think

spiral robin
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I approve!

peak ginkgo
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dj (avg reporter)

ashen cliff
worthy geode
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no table*

golden gust
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hello white names

true canyon
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@warm anchor

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I WAS 13/0/9 😦

worthy geode
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throwing nuts at people kek

spiral robin
golden gust
warm anchor
true canyon
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😄

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Look how much gold they got from me lol

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Alright it's over now

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pos3wink works great at this skill level :3

warm anchor
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your enemy team will be sadger if they dont have bkb

true canyon
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One

coarse lily
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We generally prefer people not ask to join random servers.

radiant mantle
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Alr mb sorry

true canyon
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@warm anchor hoodWINk

warm anchor
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@worn ember thoughts?

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good hero though

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very flexible

mild rune
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is that league

worn ember
warped pelican
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@golden gust Los*

foggy silo
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Did they correct cat, and then leave? 🤔

grand pewter
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they couldn't resist the urge to ping

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tbh it's so difficult, with cat being so pingable

void void
true canyon
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Dota 2

mild rune
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oh okay that's fine then

daring laurel
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I do not understand why physics 2 is helpful at all in the field of computer science, can someone help me understand?

foggy silo
grand pewter
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its called a weeder course commonly

true canyon
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Because after you take some compsci courses under ancient professors who refuse to update their curriculum to modern software versions, that physics knowledge will let you dream even more complex torture methods while you sleep.

daring laurel
true canyon
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That's good, though.

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I've seen courses post-2020 in Java that insist on students using concepts that have been outdated since Java 7 release (which was 2011)

daring laurel
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Yeah, I agree, having python3 required the course material to be somewhat new material. But next semester I have a java web dev course thonk

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its a requirement

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because every good developer makes their website using java

true canyon
daring laurel
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yeah

foggy silo
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Java web dev...?

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Wtf, are you gonna be using applets!? 😅

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Unless this is just, backend stuff.

true canyon
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Maybe they want you building circuits and such.

daring laurel
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I have no idea

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I just want to learn some programming and stop with this stupid shit

foggy silo
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lol

daring laurel
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I guess its a pipedream to learn anything rustwise, but like come on

magic river
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Some of the compsci lessons might assume you know Navier–Stokes equations or something and want you to make a simulator without having to teach you the algorithm

golden gust
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@grand pewter I will pop you like a blister

grand pewter
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Ok

daring laurel
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I'm considering just installing a 3rd party launcher

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this microsoft xbox console integration with minecraft was so unnecessary

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just makes it annoying for no reason to use multiple accounts

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like for what reason

golden gust
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Use the windows 7 launcher

daring laurel
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how?

magic river
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Holy shit someone shot Shinzo Abe

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With a shotgun

daring laurel
magic river
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Smart contracts are voodoo magic and I think most of these aren't on the ETH chain so the rules are probably different anyway

jagged egret
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depending on the system used it likely has to meet certain criteria to be accepted by each node, and only upon being accepted by a majority of nodes does it become 'factual'. so the nodes probably have some check to make sure stuff like that doesn't happen

magic river
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Yeah all these sidechains are more or less centralized anyway, I think?

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They have all the blockchain overhead and use smart contracts to do swaps between them and a wallet on ETH or whatever but I'm not sure you can run your own node for them

jagged egret
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usually whatever computer does the mining is a node

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at least with bitcoin

magic river
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Yeah I don't think you're allowed to mine binance or whatever though

jagged egret
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the way it's worded makes it sound like a person or entity who paused it but I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a symptom of the way it was designed

magic river
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Whatever chain the NFTs are on

jagged egret
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oh I see, yeah idk then

worthy geode
magic river
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Yeah he was out campaigning for someone

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Not a fan of the picture on that one, embed go poof

bronze fractal
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and sometimes that kill switch is a switch to siphon off all the liquidity money and scam everyone

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stuff like this is why almost the entire crypto community is a sham

golden gust
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but

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but

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crypto is the future, bro

lilac moon
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well in the future we're all fucked due to global warming so who knows

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maybe it is that future

lilac moon
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Fr

golden gust
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latex?

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the typing one, or the fun one?

tired fog
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this is why Bitcoin still reigns king 🙏

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invest in Monero today

lilac moon
golden gust
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also used in some contexts for fun

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and sometimes not so fun

marble lark
golden gust
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hey, if you can make it poop out html

marble lark
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Up next: Writing a game engine in Node.js

golden gust
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Soooo

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Who wants to help me write a JVM in wasm?

marble lark
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Imma enhance the HotSpot build system to let it compile to wasm

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lmao

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on second thought that would probably just result in an aneurysm so nevermind

upbeat falconBOT
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https://teavm.org/

TeaVM is an ahead-of-time compiler for Java bytecode that emits JavaScript and WebAssembly that runs in a browser. Its close relative is the well-known GWT.

magic river
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Although it would be plausible to write a JIT backend for WASM in HotSpot, I guess?

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Then the compiler and such would just be compiled normally for WASM, standard clang stuff

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iirc PyPy did something like that

void void
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Did you guys hear about Bun

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Looks cool

magic river
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Bun is basically Deno but JavaScriptCore instead of V8

ashen cliff
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Rent a small part of a skyscraper roof, to have a camera and long range AP there.
Fair price.
Get a huge bill.
Call.
Apparently using a lot of electricity.
kekwhyper
Add a portable solar cell and power bank.
Disconnect their power from my setup.
Get charged even more.
Call.
They are now super mad about the fact I cough them.
Time to move it into a hill I guess. kekwhyper

simple karma
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vsc finally has 3-way merge editor

next ginkgo
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Question; What anticheat is better?
An anticheat using packets like Vulcan Anticheat or an anticheat that uses the default bukkit events like Spartan?

simple karma
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i think spartan uses some stuff from protocollib

next ginkgo
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From what I know it doesn't

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once it is installed it does a little but at can run without it

simple karma
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its a softdepend

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to be honest it doesnt really matter

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something using packets can be worse than something using bukkit events and the way around

next ginkgo
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true, running both would be overkill tho

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and make server performance shit

simple karma
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you can test both and use the one which is better for you

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spoiler: both arent perfect

next ginkgo
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I know

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Any anticheat has issues, either false positives or things that don't get flagged.

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I am only gone use it to be able to send an allert to staff so they can investigate it

simple karma
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i run acaddition along with my anticheats

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its a plugin that adds some checks that are not covered by popular anticheats

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(like esp or inv move)

tired fog
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does it remove entities from the client when theyre not in view?

simple karma
tired fog
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hm

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what about players off-screen

void void
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I use Spartan, It false flags a lot.

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Even on people with 12-18 ping while the servers TPS is 20

next ginkgo
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yea

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I have no installed them both

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but vulcan seems to flag way faster than spartan

void void
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I’d recommend you use GrimAC.
It doesn’t false flag as much compared to Spartan, And it has extremely good movement checks.

vagrant marlin
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ive never had a good experience with spartan

void void
vagrant marlin
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that was 2 years ago though

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but it still costed 20 euros, 20 euros which i wasted.

void void
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Yeah

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Vulcan is better imo.
I use it on a server I’m staff on

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Can’t detect 0.6 hitboxes tho 💀

vagrant marlin
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i use vulcan on my own server currently

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will switch to grim when its considered ready

void void
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Couldn’t bypass it 1.8 or 1.19

vagrant marlin
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1.8 🥱

void void
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lmao

vagrant marlin
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if only anticheats didnt have to account for 10 different versions, and everyone used up to date versions!

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imagine how good anticheats would be

void void
void void
abstract aspen
ashen cliff
vagrant marlin
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most likely

abstract aspen
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I haven't needed to run anti cheat on my server yet we peaked at 17 players last weekend and the only cheating problem I've had so far is x-ray

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If I start peaking at like 25-30 it'll prolly be more needed then.

tropic flame
ashen cliff
ashen cliff
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Thank you ShareX 14.0:

simple karma
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of the game

void void
simple karma
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yea well

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test server is on latest always

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so it will work best on latest

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why block autoclicker when you can use normal new pvp :p

short path
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Hi, does anyone have any idea how to create a custom Fabric Based Client in 1.8.8?

wet storm
pastel reef
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Is a GT 710 worth it if you have Intel HD graphics?

latent sable
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Are you looking to spend less then 10 bucks on a GPU?

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If your budget is a GT 710 i think you should wait a bit before considering pc parts

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At least get a GT 1030

ashen cliff
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GT 710. kekwhyper

latent sable
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The most budget card id recommend is a gtx 1070, then you can actually enjoy games without paying a fortune

lilac moon
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GT should be cars, not gpus

ashen cliff
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Trying to sell a 150€ GPU to someone with a 10€ budget.

lilac moon
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Wha

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What are they buying for 10

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I rmemeber getting a 1050 ti for like $150 USD new a while ago

brave mountain
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so...

ashen cliff
brave mountain
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today 1.19.1?

ashen cliff
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Haha. Pre 4 maybe.

brave mountain
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@ Microsoft Employee

void void
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only on tuesdays

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and chat reporting still has issues, so they aren't releasing yet

latent sable
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I have never found a game on my 1070 that was made unenjoyable by its outdated card

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But my boy on a GT 1030 says its a life sucking abyss

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That consumes your soul gradually as you attempt to enjoy games with others

lilac moon
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I only play Minecraft

latent sable
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On a card with 2 gigs of vram good luck

ashen cliff
lilac moon
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Oh I meant my 1050 ti

latent sable
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Oh

lilac moon
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Was it the same price in like 2017 or so for the 1070

latent sable
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I thought you were the guy asking about at GT card

lilac moon
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Lmao

void void
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snapshot time

hexed dragon
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I just got home and was notified of this.

brave mountain
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damn

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I believe that prefix can be removed on spigot/paper right?

glass crag
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waits for someone else to do the work and share the implementation of the chat message ordering

brave mountain
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I just see ram and CPU usage increase

little frost
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well @void void you had speculations about the cryptographic ordering, right?

void void
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yeah, am generating the diff rn

plush bane
void void
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oh god it's a chatchain™️

little frost
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woo

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real chat tokens

latent sable
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Sus

vernal moth
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The order of chat messages are now cryptographically verified

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There we go

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Can everybody now shut up about the system being exploitable?

plush bane
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🥳

peak ginkgo
odd slate
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🙏

vernal moth
odd slate
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i have a repo which decomps the game as soon as it comes out if you want an inv (dj uses the tool :) )

peak ginkgo
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@foggy silo ^

vernal moth
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I use Kenny's repo for that

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Which he uses for via

peak ginkgo
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ero is instant & mojmapped

twin lagoon
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kenny's just chucks it through vanillagradle

little frost
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michael uses ci

void void
twin lagoon
odd slate
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yee_fuckin_haw i overengineered a bot which automatically decompiles the game if there's a new release

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within 5m of it coming out

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so it seems the way the chain works is the server sends a "chat header" which contains the previous message signature and previous sender uuid

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and then that gets included into the message you send

rare sigil
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is there a support or help channel?

twin lagoon
peak ginkgo
foggy silo
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Yes this header is interesting

peak ginkgo
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I know you liked the one I use :p

odd slate
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TE_Hmmm no more async chatting i imagine?

foggy silo
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So it’s like another layer of authentication for player messages

odd slate
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considering the message headers must be in order

foggy silo
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Jackson could I have an invite perhapss?

odd slate
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already invited

foggy silo
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❤️

void void
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mind shooting me an invite aswell?

little frost
foggy silo
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Ok

twin lagoon
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?ban 890408756951777310 spam

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Banned dra#1933 (spam) [1 total infraction] -- Michael#9600.

odd slate
foggy silo
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Thanks ♥️

wide chasm
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Michael sniping me smh

void void
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ty peepoLove

void void
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you can detect when people send a DM now

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that's fun

small zephyr
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recommended server providers?

spiral robin
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@twin lagoon gdpr check

twin lagoon
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@spiral robin account removal system check

spiral robin
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@twin lagoon (not my job)

twin lagoon
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(make it your job)

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(( delete my account ))

spiral robin
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Delete * from users where name = michael

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Ok done

little frost
void void
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Yes

little frost
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hm

void void
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Only the headers are broadcast ofc

little frost
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i imagine this is still subject to data races, does the client just resend or something?

odd slate
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client signs it's own message chain currently

little frost
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i suppose i should just read the diff myself on monday lol

spiral robin
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@cedar spade hi 🙂

cedar spade
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@spiral robin 🙂

lilac moon
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'; drop table users

small zephyr
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Recommended proxy server providers?

charred sleet
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looks interesting

unkempt jackal
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java lore

short path
golden gust
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I mean, you said fabric

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if you want forge, go look at the MCP kit thing from then

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But, like, stupidly outdated unsupported software is stupidly outdated unsupported software

small zephyr
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Recommended proxy server providers?

golden gust
#

either use a shared host, or get a VPS from somewhere localish

coarse venture
ashen cliff
vagrant marlin
little frost
#

wtf kenny go back to streaming

brave mountain
#

Nice video kenny

vagrant marlin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zq0vz4-Tio this is my favorite video from kenny television

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quasi valley
twin lagoon
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@viral hornet thoughts

viral hornet
#

It's okay

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not as epic as his new video though

mild rune
#

I can finally install 1.7 shaders thanks kenny

twin lagoon
#

lucky block videos

foggy silo
#

bless

neon galleon
#

what does this look like to you guys

mild rune
#

melon

neon galleon
#

its supposed to be a mango slice

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😔

vernal moth
#

It's nice

vernal moth
true canyon
#

I'm not sure it needs both an orange and a green skin layer

neon galleon
#

i guess ill remove the green, thats what most people seem to be talking abt

vernal moth
#

Kek that's a first

#

Actually error in C code on a default jvm

golden gust
#

ITT: mini shows up

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shit breaks

coarse venture
#

[ ] finish hangar

vernal moth
#

This is work stuff, no hangar here ^^

coarse venture
#

sorry, it's friday, can't control my wild side.

vernal moth
#

Right, it's Friday, 1800, maybe I should consider going home, lol

fast scarab
fallen oracle
#

See the way it works is that Mini will go home from work today and then finish Hangar tonight.

fallen oracle
fast scarab
#

lmao 😂

fallen oracle
#

He really be like "better find those clues, or you'll regret it"

fast scarab
spiral robin
#

massive potential

fallen oracle
#

buy buy buy now

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!invest

plush bane
foggy silo
rare python
little frost
#

holy crap

#

kennytv is my favourite reaction image

vagrant marlin
#

wouldnt have believed it, we always thought that kenny's only entrance to his prison was through a curtain!

warm anchor
#

There is no table though

vagrant marlin
#

the benefactors havent provided a table to kenny

cedar spade
#

We already knew he didn't have a table

warm anchor
#

@quasi valley sir I am from the beautiful country of Germany is there Germany language available for the video??

quasi valley
#

I love the memes here so far

warm anchor
little frost
#

@quasi valley how does it feel to be a reaction image

quasi valley
#

not sure yet omegalul

vagrant marlin
#

you'll be interviewed by a boomer news outlet in 8 months

mental meadow
#

@quasi valley

ashen cliff
#

You can tell that Kenny is unpaid, by the camera quality. kekwhyper

visual egret
#

kenny fix msa

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smh

warm anchor
#

xDDD

vagrant marlin
#

kenny buy new camera with the real free will you are given

warm anchor
#

gotta pay him more for a ringlight

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so kneny can be a proper streamer

golden gust
#

protip: the modern launcher sucks, use the 7/8 one

ashen cliff
visual egret
#

7/8?

quasi valley
golden gust
#

yes

little frost
#

kenny is so rich with all his unpaid intern money that he has TWO pianos

golden gust
#

on the downloads page for MC

vagrant marlin
little frost
#

do YOU have TWO pianos

vagrant marlin
#

has an amazing camera

golden gust
#

they offer both launchers, the older one deals with multople accounts, etc, better

warm anchor
ashen cliff
#

I have the V2. It was amazing. kekwhyper

vagrant marlin
#

was 😳

little frost
#

my webcam makes everything green

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@void void can confirm

ashen cliff
#

Yeah, currently connected to my Kodi box, so... it doesn't really work as a camera anymore. kekwhyper

visual egret
#

has anyone tried photogrammetry?

ashen cliff
#

Yes.

visual egret
#

how did it go?

#

I’m scanning in a school using a tello

ashen cliff
#

Since it did it with the Kinect, it went well.
Also tried with my phone once... not that well.

visual egret
#

using 3DF

ashen cliff
#

But you need a lot of light usually.

visual egret
#

yeah it works better with light

modern bone
#

2/5 video
can't have a piano in a video without playing it

jovial plover
#

who suggested me to erase ubunt hard drive while mc running

visual egret
#

idk who but I’d like to suggest that too

jovial plover
#

i did it

visual egret
#

send proof or it didn’t happen

jovial plover
#

ok ill send the vid

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41mb

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but i have nirto

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unedited

golden gust
#

weak

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I once dd'd windows while it was running

mild rune
#

Reading dd'd hurt

jovial plover
#

processing

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there

rare python
#

Couldn't even convert it to an mp4

#

Lame

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Now we have to download it

#

Cringe

jovial plover
#

ok ok ill convert it

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nah sike

golden gust
#

mpv go brr

visual egret
#

can’t tell if iOS or my data is being shitty

vagrant marlin
#

both

brave mountain
potent wedge
void void
void void
#

@little frost

little frost
#

hmpf

daring laurel
#

What does this mean?

Custom servers can hide player chat messages from display via a new network packet

#

will it allow for servers to have delete message plugins?

worthy geode
#

Yes, without disrupting the chain of messages I guess

mild rune
#

Wonder if retroactive deletion is a thing too. Could allow for a chat moderator to delete a message afterwards thonk

worthy geode
#

That would be nice

little frost
#

i..is that not that feature is?

mild rune
#

I think it’s meant to stop chats before being sent to clients

#

It’s kinda vague

void void
#

no no, it removes existing messages from the chat "gui" thing

lament patio
#

Wonder if it'd work for system messages

mild rune
#

Oh so it is just straight up deletion after messages are sent

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Pog

void void
mild rune
#

Well “deletion” since it’s still there technically just hidden

void void
worthy geode
#

Still nicer than resending the entire chat like some chat plugins do for that

lament patio
#

Ah, shame

void void
#

and spamming god so many megabytes of logs to the client kekw

mild rune
#

Yeah having proper chat removal is nice

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If you can yeet system messages to that'd be pretty sick

worthy geode
#

Now if there was a way to undo a deletion it would be even better

#

Then you could temporarily hide messages and then unhide them later, that would be great

daring laurel
#

perfect: blinking chat

mild rune
#

hides a player's chat entirely

worthy geode
#

Makes me wonder how the message ordering thing deals with different chat channels

#

How would you go about implementing something like a local chat, were players might get out of range and back into range

daring laurel
#

I wonder if mojang has considered making the server sign system messages, that way they can block the server if the server is just sending rude things as system messages

mild rune
#

Send all chat messages but hide out of range ones

worthy geode
daring laurel
#

i mean relating chat a system messages

void void
#

so like the concept of "channels" already exists, just make it in a plugin and implement a signed argument command or w/e

worthy geode
#

If leaving and rejoining the team works, true

void void
#

wdym?

worthy geode
#

Leaving and rejoining a team would be the same as getting out of range/in range for local chat. So if the teammsg command supports that, local chat should be possible as well

void void
#

also the delete chat message packet handling doesn't early-return on an empty signature lmao

golden gust
#

the older one deals with some of the complaints around MSA much better

void void
#

dinnerbone was here

vernal moth
#

That's some nice thread

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Nice story

worthy geode
#

That's creative for sure

void void
#

ouch that hurts

daring laurel
#

Do unbreaking levels scale indefinitely

worthy geode
#

The Minecraft wiki even has the formulas for it

little frost
lilac moon
#

hugo award

magic river
#

I finally have a UPS on my desk

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Estimated battery life is about 30 minutes for my current load and it claims to be mostly charged

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That's a bit less than I expected, I was estimating more like an hour

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It a real heavy fucker

coarse lily
#

Yeah they're surprisingly large/heavy for the relatively small amount of reserve you get. Computers use a lot of damn power.

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I generally don't plug display power into the UPS. That way if there's an outage I can opt to plug it in to get the display up and power down. But if I'm not in front of the thing I'm not burning through extra power and wasting minutes/etc on something I don't need.

magic river
#

I just plugged the whole desk in to it, it's an adjustable height desk so doing more would require more cords running from the desk to floor (which is awkward due to the height change) or putting the UPS on the desk

winged river
#

@proud dagger may i ask you something on priv message very important please

proud dagger
#

no, blocked.

worthy geode
ashen cliff
#

Based.

mental meadow
#

understandable, have a nice day

mild rune
#

My UPS has enough things plugged in that I can continue with my work for about 10 minutes before I gotta properly close out of anything.

hidden spade
#

Hey, say I'm pre-release and I would like to measure if my server will be able to hold a certain amount of players, is it possible for me to do that? How many factors are in play, I know about obviously the number of the players, the cpu, and memory, but what else? If anyone here could help me would be great, I need my server to be stable when the release happens.

mild rune
#

Then my modem/router only UPS can power that for like 3ish hours

ashen cliff
#

Will it actually run for that long?

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Most have a build in timer.

mossy vessel
#

What is your name @spiral robin ?

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chat reporting fan?

coarse lily
spiral robin
spiral robin
#

love u btw nmf

hidden spade
mild rune
# ashen cliff Will it actually run for that long?

Yeah I plugged it into a PC when I first got it and it reported a runtime of a little less than 3 hours. It's a pretty small one. I really only need my internet alive for enough time to tell people I lost power because once I lose internet I have no outside contact kekw

mossy vessel
#

I like reporting people too

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Especially the person below me

mild rune
spiral robin
#

oh

#

@coarse lily lovege

coarse lily
# hidden spade Not even a rough estimate?

Not really, no. There's no good way to simulate what players will actually. You can get a bunch of friends to toss them on the server and see how things behave, but if you don't have a bunch of "I've run this setup before with X hardware and Y users" data already then you're basically winging it.

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Less than 1000

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Probably more than 3.

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In between? Varies wildly.

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@spiral robin Hello!

pale hinge
#

hi guys, what is the best open source mc client, that has some sort of built-in anticheat? i want to fork and create a client for my server.

lavish compass
#

@warm anchor weeb

warm anchor
warm anchor
pale hinge
warm anchor
#

Not aware of any that fits all your requirements.

wet storm
brave mountain
#

paper team and they made up titles...

spiral robin
#

ok

visual egret
#

1.5.2 server with 11 players running on 20 TPS

#

so far so good

unkempt drift
warm anchor
#

All joke aside yeah that’s a rare case of political assassination in japans happened yesterday

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He was shot and killed during a speech. He was the longest running PM

coarse lily
#

Yeah that's pretty terrible.

worthy geode
#

apparently with a self-made or modified gun, pretty scary

warm anchor
#

It was a low security area too. Video can be seen that suspect was right behind exPM for a while before the act

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I guess unlike in the west, they don’t expect this type of thing to happen so they only have minimum securities around

worthy geode
#

the really extreme security seems to be mainly a US thing

#

I remember that someone stole Merkel's wallet last year while she was shopping, so it can't be that strict kek

warm anchor
#

Well yeah our criminal is armed to the teeth

warm anchor
floral mesa
warm anchor
#

What if they steal your pistol

worthy geode
#

or the wallet chain, with me attached?

daring laurel
#

For chat signing, as I understand it, the client will sign whatevers in the chat preview, but does that chat preview ever have to contain the actual text that they said?

floral mesa
#

or if your doing conceal carry

worthy geode
#

that sounds illegal

floral mesa
#

not in new hampshire it isnt

worthy geode
#

well, glad im not there

warm anchor
#

Malfdador isn’t American enough

mild rune
warm anchor
#

In some state you need to apply for a ccw

#

In some you don’t Trollge

floral mesa
#

Yeah, new hampshire is constitutional carry, and it will vary in other states

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some do open only, others do conceal only

worthy geode
#

I don't think you are allowed to carry weapons in public here at all

floral mesa
#

which state/country?

worthy geode
#

Germany

floral mesa
#

ah, thats likely a no

worthy geode
#

ah, apparently you technically can if you can proof that you are in danger in public in some way (e.g. you work for a security service or something). But that seems very rare

floral mesa
#

exceptions for politicians and the like

worthy geode
#

tf is a private military kek
That sounds like something from a civil war country

warm anchor
#

Military contractor is a thing here PepeLa but they mainly operate oversea

floral mesa
#

ah sorry, the better term is security contractors

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they operate outside of the typical military structure

mental meadow
#

@warm anchor @mental meadow weebs

warm anchor
mild rune
worthy geode
sharp nova
#

are there any server side "auto-clicker" mods for paper? a la carpet's "/player attack" command?

potent wedge
#

new paper chan stickers??

glass crag
bronze fractal
#

mojang deleted my feedback post for no reason

#

feels bad

worthy geode
#

:/ I liked that idea

lament patio
#

Maybe "terrorism" got caught in a word filter or something, lol

mild rune
#

It'd be cool if the report UI could be utilized by servers tbh

worthy geode
mild rune
#

Although if that packet got added I can see servers who hate the report system just auto banning anyone who reports messages

lament patio
#

I see

glass crag
#

Eh, servers can store all chat logs much easier, it would probably not be as useful

mild rune
#

Eh maybe not the context system but like an easy way to report instead of trying to find a report system for said server

glass crag
#

True that would be nice

worthy geode
#

and server staff can react within minutes, while Mojang probably won't be able to do that

mild rune
#

It's definitely a system they can expand on but I'll wait for them to iron out their current issues kekw

warm anchor
#

Yes that’s why the release had been pushed back and we are on prerelease 3 again

daring laurel
#

because then you would have to transmit the custom font too

bronze fractal
#

I have zero hope that they'll add a report packet to the protocol now that my feedback post has been censored

glass crag
#

I guess..?

#

There's been a few complaints about chat previews, I'm wondering if they'll also sign the original message with it

#

If they don't already

bronze fractal
#

When they can't even get human review for the feedback forum properly, it breaks my confidence that they'll get chat report bans right

#

Feels like every other big corporation I've had to interact with

bronze fractal
#

so I think it's sending a copy of the original message that is also signed

#

it seems like they'll work out all of the context/faking issues

warm anchor
#

Ofcoz they will. They are actively addressing issues

glass crag
#

Yeah they seem to be tackling issues people are finding with it

warm anchor
#

Otherwise a release won’t be delayed on one day notice

jagged egret
#

the ' most replayed ' feature on YouTube is kinda weird

bronze fractal
true canyon
#

Wonder where most clicked will be for commentiquette since nobody wants to skip the ads 🤔

ashen cliff
#

Trying to swap a bigger drive into my Mac Mini G4...
Need an adapter to fit a SATA disk inside...
Already have the adapter since like 2010, just chilling in the drawer. kekwhyper

#

Could actually be from before, the chipset already existed back in 2003... Not the fastest thing around, but it will do the job. kekwhyper

ember mist
#

wait am i breaking rules hold on mods please don't ban yet

ashen cliff
floral mesa
#

Whatever works, but yeah, thankfully it doesnt force snapd like ubuntu is doing

#

and netplan...

#

now only if we can toss out cloud-init

twin lagoon
#

cloud-init is fine wtf do you mean

#

snapd & netplan is ass yes

#

cloud-init might just be the only sane canonical project

shy eagle
#

I've tried to use red hat/fedora and always ran into issues. Always have had better luck with Ubuntu/Debian.

twin lagoon
#

debian epic

magic river
#

I'm the guy with an @ubuntu.com email address but I use Fedora 😄

visual egret
#

windows is the best distro

unkempt jackal
#

agreed

waxen panther
#

guys 🤓 windows 🤓 is the best 🤓 distro

foggy silo
#

@waxen panther Who are you

coarse lily
#

Someone posting dumb gifs.

waxen panther
#

damn bro kenny dancing in 2030

foggy silo
#

Problem?

jade flax
#

go home windows, you're drunk

foggy silo
#

Have you tried running the diagnostic tool?

#

(Searching for problems................)

jade flax
#

I am moreso talking about the graph

#

top is how it should be

hearty dagger
foggy silo
#

Paper has been copied

#

Whichever dependency decided to make @C an annotation in the paper project is evil

jade flax
#

why tf

foggy silo
#

actually evil

jade flax
#

is @Celsius taken?

foggy silo
#

no

jade flax
#

🤦‍♂️

foggy silo
#

You need A?

jade flax
#

i hate this

#

causes me great pain to look at

fervent peak
#

I'm making a Minecraft minigame and I'm looking for a plugin that allows me to only certain tools break certain blocks. I can't use adventure mode because the tools need to be traded by a villager. If anyone know one that would be great

worthy geode
#

You can't trade with villagers in adventure mode? That's stupid

fervent peak
#

i think u can. I just need for instance all iron pickaxes to be able to mine cobblestone but with adventure mode, if you get an iron pickaxe from a villager it doesn't work because you need to run a special command to allow it to do so.

worthy geode
#

You just need to add cobblestone to the minable or whatever it's called nbt tag of that pickaxe. There are plenty of examples online on how to do that

#

And of course you want to add it to the villager. That's possible using commands as well, or by using a plugin like Shopkeepers

fervent peak
worthy geode
#

No, that is of course also possible. You said Minigame so I was assuming there is no natural spawning.
There are plugins to modify villager trades, you could use one of those

fervent peak
worthy geode
#

No, I don't, sorry

fervent peak
magic river
#

I finally caved and bought a Pixel 6, should be here in a couple days

coarse lily
magic river
#

Was going to wait and get a 6a but decided I couldn't go back to 60 Hz

#

Now that the Twitter deal is dead there is an interesting theory that the whole thing was just a ruse to give Musk an excuse for selling billions of Tesla stock without scaring people off and tanking its insanely overinflated price

#

It tanked anyway, I think harder than the market average (everything was/is tanking), but perhaps it would have been even worse if it looked like the owner was trying to bail

dense laurel
#

Is ECC RAM beneficial to hosting a Minecraft server?

magic river
#

I mean, ECC is always great to have. The tradeoff is that it's more expensive and slower. I don't think it matters either way for Minecraft though

daring laurel
#

is there a maintained alternative to jdiff?

proud lance
#

fbi wants to know your location

coarse lily
#

Amaranth pls

proud lance
#

tsa also wants to know your location

magic river
#

Now they want to know your location 😄

coarse lily
#

I'm . . . just gonna delete those messages

proud lance
#

I never saw condoms in an airport store

magic river
#

I definitely have

#

This is yet another reason we should get rid of those "single use" lithium batteries they sell for recharging your phone

spiral robin
#

🤔

magic river
#

You saw nothing

spiral robin
#

That’s correct

#

Trying to read between the lines

magic river
#

I didn't teach anyone how to make a thing in a place

potent wedge
#

To make a rust application
open cargo
and do "cargo new urmomgood"
then "cd urmomgood"
and "nano src/main.rs"
(do the funny)
and finally "cargo run"

potent wedge
#

That's not what I thought it looked like

#

I thought the phone part rotated on a pedestal

warm anchor
#

its like a kids toy! you can play with it!

potent wedge
tired fog
#

i need an artist rendition of this

coarse lily
#

Yeah I'm a little stumped here, too.

bronze fractal
#

the problem with non-ECC RAM is rare failures that can pretty much cause anything to happen on the software side -- could trigger a crash, or could flip something in a program to start doing silent but deadly corruption on a bunch of data

coarse lily
#

pipe that was two hours ago.

#

We're talking about phones now KEEP UP

bronze fractal
#

things that don't have ECC RAM: phones

dense laurel
#

Thanks

coarse lily
#

Good now it's topical

#

But yeah ECC RAM does have some benefits

bronze fractal
#

the funny thing about those benefits is that they're really hard to quantify

#

you can't exactly put a dollar cost on the vague possibility of a huge data corruption event

coarse lily
#

Same with backups

bronze fractal
#

and of course, nobody has studied non-ECC RAM on minecraft server software specifically

#

yep

#

like backups, having ECC RAM is an assurance

magic river
#

Getting backups is my next goal 😛

#

I've got a UPS, now I need to get another one for my modem, router, and (once I finish building it) my NAS

#

Haven't decided if I'm going to go AM5 and Ryzen 7000 for it or just put my current desktop parts in there but those parts will only be freed up once I get a Ryzen 7000 for my desktop so either way I'm waiting

potent wedge
magic river
#

Then I can stop feeling like a hypocrite when I tell people they should have had backups

potent wedge
magic river
#

Rotary phones used a simple encoding, 1 pulse is 1, 2 pulses is 2, etc, 10 pulses is 0 and went at a rate of 10 pulses a second which means every 0 you had to dial you had to wait a whole second for that wheel to stop turning before you could dial the next number

#

Neat, you could also rapidly hang up the phone at a rate of 10 times a second and dial manually

#

In the United Kingdom, it used to be possible to make calls from coin-box phones (payphones) by tapping the switch hook without depositing coins.

worthy geode
warm anchor
#

very popular in asia

magic river
#

I've got one in my cupboard for spices

warm anchor
#

primary used for restaurant but idk how it would be now with covid though PepeLa

worthy geode
#

Seems like the kind of thing my grandma probably owns because she has all the weird kitchen/dining things kek

bronze fractal
#

set up backups, YESTERDAY

lilac moon
#

Who is Suzan and why is she lazy

little frost
coarse lily
#

Yeah that worked a lot with payphones and stuff that supported tone and pulse

void void
#

Does anyone know a platform where I can track one specific analytic of data on a daily basis and it’d have neat things for me to view over the course of a month like a summary or somethin

#

The data is just a number

vernal moth
#

Google Data Studio ❤️

#

the self build solution for that would be grafana I guess

#

but data studio is straight up amazing

void void
#

you are here too

#

electroniccat, how do you manage to stay productive?

#

i am very unproductive especially if there is something putting me down

ashen cliff
#

Cat productive?
kekwhyper

void void
#

cat fast

tired fog
vernal moth
#

I just wasted an hour on a reaaallly stupid issue with hangar

#

wtf

#

turns out, importing something is worse than not importing it

tired fog
#

hmm

vernal moth
#

so to compensate the anger I just ordered a giant burger 😄

tired fog
#

@vernal moth what will resources uploaded to hangar be called?

#

planes? :3

mental meadow
#

sheets

#

or sheeps, depending on who you talk to

vernal moth
#

projects, lol

tired fog
#

boring >:(

vernal moth
#

uff

tribal rivet
void void
mental meadow
#

I think he posts his home address like weekly

#

you can't get doxxed if you doxx yourself roundnthonk

void void
#

ahh i see

#

thinking 5 steps ahead

#

happy holidays

#

türkiye

#

the 9 day holiday has begun.

#

o7

vernal moth
void void
wet storm
vernal moth
#

My burger arrived!

golden gust
#

Jesus, I slept for 11 hours or something

#

and really wish I was still sleeping

cedar spade
#

I wish you were still sleeping too, cat

#

Thought I could leave the rugs out for a whole day but no

wet storm
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guess how old is this book which I found somewhere on a shelf

ashen cliff
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Well, it works if you reboot 3 times....
No idea how that works.

visual egret
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when were UUID's introduced?

golden gust
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1.7.2

visual egret
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thanks

coarse venture
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And seven years later there are still plugins.. xD

cloud slate
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:wheeze:

visual egret
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is it spigot or paper then

strong vector
visual egret
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rate my algorithm

spiral robin
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@mossy vessel working on the weekend ??

ashen cliff
mossy vessel
spiral robin
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Good

mossy vessel
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Which ends up as contribution anyway PepeLaugh

spiral robin
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Smh

mossy vessel
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Imagine working on personal projects, unacceptable

spiral robin
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Very unacceptable

#

Is your style lint getting descripted nicely?

mossy vessel
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No, it wraps around the yarn package. Description is there

ashen cliff
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Thank you Google.

hazy badger
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Yo guys!

#

Any help with this timing please?

lament patio
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Please ask Purpur for support, that's not Paper

primal dagger
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Optifine 1.19 Snapshot - fully customiseable gameplay xD

warm anchor
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Optifine Puke

mild rune
vernal moth
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fuck I opened up all windows and somebody is having a bbq somewhere and now my whole flat smells like bbq

#

and am hungry

warm anchor
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Find out who and join them

visual egret
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best server rack

ashen cliff
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Got like 5. kekwhyper

twin lagoon
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@void void

void void
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uwu

finite herald
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What happened to gecko10000

void void
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chicken sus

pulsar tide
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that chicken has some pretty nice shoes

void void
charred sleet
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ingenious

#

i should also encrypt passwords in b64

jagged egret
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purpur seems so odd

#

like a lot of that can be done with plugins

onyx cape
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lan server is interesting
it doesnt have authentication but shows skins on the tablist

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iirc offline dedicated servers don't show skins in tablists at all

twin lagoon
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huh, never knew lan servers don't have auth

onyx cape
tired fog
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1.8 lan definitely has auth

neon galleon
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thats cool

onyx cape
#

lan server is slightly different from normal offline mode servers

#

its like online mode server but allows unauthenticated accounts

ashen cliff
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Only the online mode of your client matters to the client, to show the tab correctly.
As long as the client is in online mode, the server can just pretend to be online.

onyx cape
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but like the lan server has correct uuid for authenticated players

#

wait this may be false, it probably doesnt use the correct uuid if a second authenticated player joins

jagged egret
daring laurel
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I remember seeing it a bit ago, but whats that pastebin that supported java stack traces

robust jetty
#

Why are there so many dutch flags and stuff in #❗ 1.19?

#

Paper team is dutch?? :O

worthy geode
jovial plover
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hi

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give me video ideas for my tech channel

pulsar wren
jagged egret
vernal moth
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!ban @timber spear bye

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Banned Just-ice#1701 (bye) [1 total infraction] -- MiniDigger#3086.

vernal moth
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that was case 23456 😄

true canyon
tropic flame
ashen cliff
tropic flame
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doesn't sound like "introduced" to me

vernal moth
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Introduced means first added, not the whole system being done

daring laurel
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I remember seeing it a bit ago, but whats that pastebin that supported java stack traces

void void
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auth servers down for anyone else?

vagrant marlin
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cant connect to my server

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seems to be the case

tropic flame
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this is why i don't rely on mojang authentication!! kekwhyper

ashen cliff