general

[stuck lava]

there's probably technician somewhere... installing cabling and stuff

[jovial plover]

even tho there is no way to access the internet in it

[stuck lava]

takes time

[jovial plover]

free windows xp product keys

my beloved

thanks google, very cool

[novel horizon]

@void void Paper already has antixray implemented, all you have to do is just turn it on in the config

[void void]

that's the problem... i can't find the configuration file

[crystal lily]

Where did paper.yml go?

In 1.19, paper.yml has been split into two files, both in the config directory. In paper-global.yml you will find configuration that changes behavior of the whole server, and in paper-world-defaults you will find configuration that can be overridden on a per world basis. See https://docs.papermc.io/paper/per-world-configuration for more information on overrides. The function of server.properties, bukkit.yml, and spigot.yml remains unchanged for this time.

Where did paper.yml go?

In 1.19, paper.yml has been split into two files, both in the config directory. In paper-global.yml you will find configuration that changes behavior of the whole server, and in paper-world-defaults you will find configuration that can be overridden on a per world basis. See https://docs.papermc.io/paper/per-world-configuration for more information on overrides. The function of server.properties, bukkit.yml, and spigot.yml remains unchanged for this time.

[stuck lava]

lol

I guess change really is the only constant in life...

[void void]

@novel horizon can you tell me where i can find the file to set it

[novel horizon]

Yes. It is said above.

[stuck lava]

[void void]

im to stupid

[solemn crow]

@placid egret unblock

[void void]

is this official optifine site
https://optifine.net/adloadx?f=OptiFine_1.17.1_HD_U_H1.jar&x=19c3

[twin lagoon]

yes

[placid egret]

why?

u wanna dm me smth?

i don't even remember you

[mossy vessel]

Downloading Optifine is always quite an... adventure

[jolly belfry]

Is there any good tab plugin for velocity?

[mossy vessel]

[placid egret]

use the optifine.net mirror

adfoc.us is horrible

oh it's down for me lmfao

[rotund bison]

bruh ? just use tl btw

or lunar client or badlion or salwyrr

[mossy vessel]

I don't play this game

The uttermost minimum I can be arsed to is launching it every now and then to see if something works 😂

[twin lagoon]

let's not support offline mode launchers here

[novel horizon]

Well just download it directly then without adfoc.us

You know how expensive https is? It costs like ~$0!

[worthy geode]

just use Fabric & mods 🤔

[novel horizon]

I use Fabric, but still, they were talking about downloading it 🤷‍♂️

[swift tree]

hi, I want to make a mini-game/bedwars modern server, it sound like a dream and i'm must'nt be the first to ask that. So I don't want somebody to do that for me (even if will be very nice): what do I need to learn to make that project ? Java of course... (I already know C++, I use it for 2 years) and what else ? spigot ? waterfall or veloctity ?

[fast siren]

hi people help me please I'm trying to replace old blocks with new ones in the plugin. it writes me an error in DIODE_BLOCK_ON ,DIODE_BLOCK_OFF what should I replace it with? I don't understand?

[topaz mortar]

• the knowledge you need to setup Let's encrypt or other self signed solutions.

Could be 15 minutes or 2h of work depending on the knowledge. 😄
8€ - 60€. At least you gain knowledge at the same time.

[novel horizon]

🙂

[topaz mortar]

Either you waste ~30€/year for a wildcard certificate or invest the above amount of time to teach yourself how to setup stuff yourself.
hint: Let's encrypt is the way I prefer.

[worthy geode]

or you just use Caddy 👀

[fallen grotto]

technic launcher?

[topaz mortar]

Sexy. A project to star. 🙂

[frank otter]

traefik is love

does caddy have LE integration?

[worthy geode]

yes

Bloom offers it when you create a webserver there, never heard of it before. But its really as easy as promised to setup and use

and it has dark mode for the default file list thing

[smoky cloud]

I run BlueMap off Caddy, it just works

[wanton juniper]

gyze is port forwarding safe

[worthy geode]

its less safe than no port forwarding. is it dangerous? no

[karmic harness]

Lol I home host and run my server through T-Mobile Home internet. (More upload speed than local ISPs) But, I have to run all of the ports through a VPN to open ports. 😦

[wanton juniper]

sorry wa?

[vernal moth]

I was today years old when I learned that people invented machines where you can buy steaks and sausages and shit on Sundays for idiots like me and my friends who are completely unable to even plan one day ahead 😂

[wanton juniper]

i was today years old gg

[ashen cliff]

I am many years old.

[formal tusk]

anyone have any idea how to remove this

[worthy geode]

the UUID or the entire message?

but, first step either way would be figuring out which plugin causes it. and then look at its config or language files, maybe you can disable the message there

[void void]

Define adventure

Is optifine unsafe

[formal tusk]

the dog

[worthy geode]

look at it, /kill <UUID>
You get the UUID by tab-completing while looking at it

(if you have a plugin that has a /kill command, /minecraft:kill)

[twin lagoon]

@viral hornet

[viral hornet]

@twin lagoon

🥺

[strong sluice]

do villagers ever try to claim already claimed work sites

[toxic epoch]

vote for this if u want guys https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/7359132970765-If-you-name-pig-techno-it-gets-a-crown

[cursive obsidian]

Hey guys
ONE PROB
actually i have a bungeecord net work
And my network player have to disconnect from the server and agai rejoin to join the lobby
i need some plugin that players can type /hub or /lobby so tht they can join lobby directly without disconnecting

plz help

[void void]

No need to post it in every channel

I already linked you a plugin in #paper-help

[visual egret]

good thing I don’t have to worry about cancelling my Spotify free trail lmao

[twin lagoon]

@void void

[worn ember]

oh they will charge you, money or not

[void void]

@twin lagoon best Michael

love you x

[visual egret]

on a prepaid debit card?

[worn ember]

imagine loving dutchies

[worn ember]

oh well they'll try at least

[twin lagoon]

@void void uwu

[void void]

ded, Michael is exceptionally exceptional

[worn ember]

throw mikel but dont catch him

[void void]

average belg

[worn ember]

if i'm already this awesome and i'm just average, just imagine

[visual egret]

no the fuck it wont

very secure 2fa code

[worn ember]

Fiverr

[worthy geode]

needs more r

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

best brocc ?

[visual egret]

basically I’m broke so I’m gonna try fiverr

[waxen panther]

do not care

BEST michael

[little frost]

@void void 😘

[void void]

cutie pie

[fallen grotto]

they have a lot of ads on their download page if you don't select mirror or use adblocker

[visual egret]

and that's why we use iris + sodium

instead of optifine

[charred sleet]

what’s ur gig gonna be

[spare venture]

optifine is the worst

[lavish compass]

@untold meadow @twin lagoon i dont really like pain but unfortunately it is happening

minecraft code is NOT fun to read

[twin lagoon]

what are you doing

[lavish compass]

perfect mc font rendering in canvas

[twin lagoon]

holy shit poggers

[lavish compass]

i expect 1 btc in my bitcoin wallet by tomorrow

[twin lagoon]

@little frost thoughts

[lavish compass]

I dont know if i want to deal with unicode though

[twin lagoon]

just don't think about it

[vernal moth]

Well, Unicode is ok, as long as you ignore the whole zero width joiner stuff

[rare python]

Allow us to upload a RP and test the custom fonts... including the weirdness of negative width spaces 😈

[void void]

MC doesn’t support a lot of invisible characters iirc

[lavish compass]

Upload origin realms resource pack

thoughts? @twin lagoon

[untold meadow]

u crazy cubxity

(port it to web-ui pls xoxo)

[visual egret]

does this work

[vernal moth]

Does it fit in cubxitys wallet is the question

[grim idol]

Interesting, apparently there's still attempts to check for Log4Shell.

[waxen panther]

cringe

[hazy badger]

Yo Oskar

They DDOS me again..

[mild rune]

"educational purposes"

[vernal bone]

It might be worth to set up a honeypot on the same IP.

Or the same range, cause they already checked that one.

[visual egret]

someone got inspired by liveoverflow

[visual egret]

you're running an offline mode server

that's your issue

[void void]

o7

[void void]

does any1 have like every single spigotmc.org plugin

[warm anchor]

[visual egret]

use spiget

then download each plugin

what

[void void]

dude that will take long

[golden gust]

well, yea

[visual egret]

then do it in a script

[twin lagoon]

what do you need it for

[void void]

my reasons

[visual egret]

plugs unreleased python spiget library

[golden gust]

I mean, theres people who do that kinda stuff, for purposes, but, I doubt many of them care to keep the files around

[void void]

im not a coder

[twin lagoon]

then what do you need it for

[visual egret]

don’t need to be

[void void]

to make a servre with every single plegin in existance

[visual egret]

google how to use urllib3 and read the spiget docs

should be enough

[visual egret]

why

[void void]

to crash the host

[twin lagoon]

there's no public download of every plugin on spigot

[void void]

xd

[twin lagoon]

and it's not crashing anyone but your own server

[upbeat falcon]

message.txt by @unique dome: https://paste.gg/2347588e32ec4a538a0575c6ac746934

[silver nexus]

Lol

[twin lagoon]

that says nothing

[void void]

bro how i sthat supposed to help me

i dont use python

i use mcreator

[warm anchor]

I am somehow even more confused now

[void void]

send me "spiget" docs

[twin lagoon]

https://spiget.org/

[upbeat falcon]

Spiget | API for Spigot Resources, Plugins and Authors

https://spiget.org/

Spiget is an API to quickly and easily get information about Spigot plugins, resources and authors. ... Spiget Logo. Try It Documentation Learn More ...

About 16,200,000 results (0.35 seconds)

[vernal moth]

Google is so hard to use

[void void]

[
{
"id": 0,
"name": "string",
"icon": {
"url": "string",
"data": "string"
}
}
]

what

[lavish compass]

just use jq, ez

[void void]

bro

wut

[warm anchor]

He doesn’t even know how to use google now you telling him to use jq

[void void]

flexible?

[mild rune]

[foggy silo]

🤨

[lavish compass]

writing a simple lightweight tool in rust should be fine

[void void]

what is rust

[mild rune]

just write it in assembly tbh, get that speed

[silver nexus]

Weird video game

[vernal moth]

Top trolling innocent kids pls

[void void]

bro that is like 10 plugins

[upbeat falcon]

message.txt by @unique dome: https://paste.gg/5e13fab1cd854b58a3e5fdc4f47b9ac0

[vernal moth]

We have ruined enough kids here already in the past ^^

[warm anchor]

my question is why you want to download every plugin

[vernal moth]

Just look at how cat turned out

[warm anchor]

Just get what you needed?

[mild rune]

cat is fine*

[warm anchor]

fine

[golden gust]

licks eternity

[mild rune]

see

[warm anchor]

I mean tbh in Briti*h standard cat is ok

[void void]

dude

[frank otter]

damn you must have a real high opinion of British standards

[mild rune]

Bri*ish

[void void]

just gimme download link of a zip with every single file in exsistance

[silver nexus]

Why would anyone have that?

[mild rune]

[frank otter]

/dev/urandom and just wait for eternity

[void void]

idfk

[silver nexus]

Then why would you expect someone to have it?

[vernal moth]

Stop asking people to do work for you

[warm anchor]

I judge a Brit*sh person properly by || how many teeth they still have ||

[vernal moth]

This is not going to get you anywhere

[silver nexus]

My suggestion: get to clicking, you'll get there soon.

[frank otter]

I count mine at 28 I think

not counting possible wisdom teeth

[void void]

dude that is like 10 plugins

spiget spits out only 10 plugins

[golden gust]

the thing has more API

[void void]

i need those 60k

[golden gust]

Well, yea

they're not gonna dump their entire database on you

[void void]

gimem their discord

so i can dm founder

[warm anchor]

[mild rune]

Mr. Spiget bro pls

[golden gust]

I mean, their database is entirely useless to you

also, the thing has a page number, you'd just need to iterate over the entire list of pages

[frank otter]

now that I come to think of it

[void void]

gimme a macro or something

[frank otter]

cat how many teeth do you have left

[golden gust]

no

[frank otter]

given how much you lick people im wondering if its a substitute for biting

[vernal moth]

Dude just stop

Either do the work yourself and write a script or go away

We can assist you with using the API, but you gotta put in the work

[vernal moth]

It's a substitute for eating actually

That's how cat assimilates minerals

[frank otter]

wait what he wants to eat eternity

[mild rune]

so if I give cat a salt lamp we'll be good

[void void]

can some1 tell me why a random guy joined a private server that i own

[mild rune]

let me consult my crystal ball

[vernal moth]

Someone can

[void void]

f

[vernal moth]

The guy.

[void void]

im verifying rn on spigotmc discord

[frank otter]

how many licks would it take cat to get to the middle of a tootsie pop

[mild rune]

Depends on tooth count

[frank otter]

I'm guessing if he tried biting a pop that number would decrease

[visual egret]

iirc I found a way to do that without pagination

[lavish compass]

I'm starting to like this API...

@untold meadow what do you think

Sorry I missed out the most important part

[golden gust]

I mean, the thing lets you specify a # of items

you could probs just give it a stupidly high number

[mild rune]

[untold meadow]

0/10 not enough expect interface SomeJsLibrary

[lavish compass]

I am not making Kotlin/JS interop for this

[untold meadow]

😭

[lavish compass]

it'll be in Typescript

[void void]

but does it support obfuscated text

[lavish compass]

shouldn't be hard

[lavish compass]

not.. yet....

don't know if I should though

[void void]

the more §k, the better

[vernal moth]

What's the point of immediately invoking on async function?

[void void]

wait what did y'all say what i shall use to download the whole spiget api?

[vernal moth]

Can't you async on outer?

[lavish compass]

nope

can't do await on the outer scope

[vernal moth]

Sad

[tawdry hazel]

What cpu is the least worse for a 1.19 5 player minecraft server? i3 6100(Dedicated) or AMD EPYC 7452(Shared hosting)

[lament patio]

Well .. The i3 performs a bit better for MC, but I'm assuming that's home hosted, right?

[molten egret]

Wiiwiwowowowowowowowow

[tawdry hazel]

Yes

[lament patio]

Home hosting is tricky, I'd say that the trouble and electricity costs aren't really worth it compared to some cheap shared hosting for just 5 players

[proper lynx]

Can someone just ping me? I want to see if I get notifications on huawei phone

[lament patio]

But do you necessarily need to go with that one with the epyc?

[void void]

@proper lynx sure

[proper lynx]

Ty but not working :(

[sullen jolt]

👮‍♂️
🥁

[lavish compass]

But.. home router firewall security >>

[ashen cliff]

Make sure to do triple NAT.

[warm anchor]

This is why you use your neighbors WiFi for home hosting

[burnt heart]

i thought pride month was over why is the logo still the same

[void void]

because paper isn't a corporation that only changes their logo to maximise profits during the month of june

[burnt heart]

was wel gekke placenl bot

👍🏻

[true canyon]

If I made the choice I'd increase duration by a week each time the question was asked.

[ashen cliff]

So, permanent?

[mild rune]

lemme ask a few hundred times real quick if that's the case

[ashen cliff]

Let's ask Mini to make a Discord bot for it, using some brand new FRESH framework with 0 supports, so that by the time we deploy it, it's already EOL.

[placid thicket]

Anyone know of a method to track or find out who started a raid?

[warm anchor]

[ashen cliff]

Just look at the users status effect?

[warm anchor]

Usually yeah those dumb kids wants recognization will leave marks

[placid thicket]

It's a case of 10 people living together and nobody wanting to take blame

[void void]

other type of raid

[warm anchor]

That makes it easy

Just ban them all

[placid thicket]

Would coreprotect be able to find out?

[warm anchor]

Oh you mean raid in Minecraft

[placid thicket]

Yes...

[warm anchor]

[ashen cliff]

Just check who killed a raid leader last?
Or whatever the main pillager is called.

[worthy geode]

ban the villagers!

[warm anchor]

See who last acquired a bad omen

[void void]

don't think you can, there are raidlogger plugins tho

[placid thicket]

But how

[worthy geode]

RaidTriggerEvent?

[warm anchor]

Not if you don’t have anything set up beforehand

[worthy geode]

ah well, its not a programming question I guess

[placid thicket]

I think figuring out who killed the pillager would be easiest.

[vernal moth]

Hey, you are being unfair, I have never done that before

[ashen cliff]

Because you never finish projects?

[vernal moth]

Uff

Hangar soon tho

[worthy geode]

Don't you get hero of the village when you finish a raid? so just check who has that

[void void]

everyone gets it

[jade light]

A quick google search yielt the "Voluntary Exile" advancement, granted when "killing a raid captain" (don't know what that is)

[quiet mesa]

i think its the illager with a banner in the head (?

[unkempt drift]

that's not what gives you Hero of the Village

killing one of those gives you Bad Omen

can spawn around pillager outposts or as part of roaming raid parties

[void void]

HOTV is given to everyone present when a raid is won by the players ^

[merry talon]

https://fresh.deno.dev/

this isn't a discord framework smh

[jade light]

take a random word from the dictionary, what's the probability that a JS framework with that name exists?

[ripe sphinx]

incredibly high

[jade light]

not specifically frontend frameworks, but... https://i.hugmanrique.me/v2/aHEcBo4JE4.png

a measly 1587/49570≈3.2% out of the English hunspell (https://hunspell.github.io/) dictionary

[brave mountain]

What have devs with dinosaurs?

This and docusaurus lol

Let them sleep peacefully 😂

[pallid edge]

What do you think about writing parts of a plugin in a different programming language (like idk, C or V)? Would it work well performance-wise and can be published to classic plugin repositories?

[vernal moth]

I wouldn't allow such stuff anywhere near my server

Would also most likely suck performance wise because of the overhead

I don't see the point

[pallid edge]

oh well, I'd just like to explore some new languages and Minecraft projects give me motivation to learn lol.
You wouldn't allow it even if it's open source?

And I heard JNI is supposed to get some notable performance improvements in future java versions

[vernal moth]

Jni is on the kill list tho?

Project panama

[pallid edge]

oh maybe they will rename or replace it or something, I don't actually know what it's called

But there will be improvements in that domain

[molten egret]

Somewhat popular opinion:
Starbucks is shit

[molten egret]

Isn’t jni used every time a method js marked as native?

[vernal moth]

That's not something java supports natively

Gwt does and that doesn't use jni

Plus Graal does it I think but that's obviously also special

[wide chasm]

If you can get it to compile to JVM, it's fine and should be pretty easy to do. Doesn't necessarily have overhead either, although that depends on how good the compiler is and how complex the resulting bytecode is. For languages that can't compile to that I wouldn't bother.

[pallid edge]

mh yeah I was more looking into something which produces native binaries, like C or V

[wide chasm]

There was even stuff like jythonc which would compile Python to JVM bytecode. Don't know how well it works, but you could technically make a pure Python copy of the API, where nothing has an implementation, just all definitions, then add that as dependency, program your plugin in Python compile it via jythonc and you can just put that on your server directly.

For C and V it's going to be difficult.

Also because compiling C to JVM is pretty difficult if you want a 1:1 copy. Best bet would be to make use of Unsafe I suppose, since that maintains stuff like non-GC'ed memory and unsafe array indexing, etc. But, like, it's Unsafe, the resulting JVM bytecode would be garbage.

Not too familiar with V, might be easier for that.

[tropic flame]

the only V programmer who was here got banned. sorry for the inconvenience.

[merry talon]

when your options are starbucks or tim hortons, sbucks is heaven on earth

[merry talon]

but not for their use of V unfortunately

which is much worse of a crime

[pallid edge]

mh compiling a system language to JVM, yeah that does sound bad. I was more looking of communicating with some dynamically linked library or something like that

V actually seems like a pretty cool language, am currently learning it

A lot of the negativity online seems to be more due to drama queens & bringing back old issues, and less about the current state of V

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oXrz3oRoEg looks pretty cool as well

[daring laurel]

Seeing this made me basically consider V dead unless something large changes: https://mawfig.github.io/2022/06/18/v-lang-in-2022.html

[pallid edge]

the author's response to that

which is fair since it's in beta, would be cool if there is a follow-up article

[brave mountain]

OMG

I don't even finish understanding html and bumm!! another programming language.

[pallid edge]

"html" "another programming language"

[brave mountain]

I'm not calling html a programming language 😅

[pallid edge]

COOULD be understood that way from saying another 😅

[brave mountain]

yes, but the joke is that I not even finish something that is not even a programming language and new languages keep being made. 😂

do you thing is possible to completely understand JavaScript?

[little frost]

can't believe Cubxity HATES webui

[cunning raft]

i can believe it

[jade light]

JNI is being phased out in favor of project panama (still an incubator project). In particular, it includes the CLinker class (see the javadoc https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/18/docs/api/jdk.incubator.foreign/jdk/incubator/foreign/package-summary.html for a brief overview). They've also released a tool to generate Java code from C headers (https://github.com/openjdk/jextract). Overall it's much nicer than JNI.

[cunning raft]

especially since its related to kotlin

[jade light]

Beware that you're still running native code, and you lose the benefit of WORA

[fresh pendant]

I saw MiniDigger's response in https://forums.papermc.io/threads/mojang-chat-report.371/ does this represent all the teams thoughts and if so, does this mean the team will not give server owners the option to circumvent the chat reporting system (I thought I heard that some server jars are making ways to turn off the chat reporting system but haven't verified if that were true), In Mini's reply, it seems he thinks that the people who dislike it are people who will break the rules, and that is plausible but at least for me, it's that mojang has trusted us for years to manage our own chats and we do, as some videos have pointed out, the reporting categories don't make sense for certain servers, they say they will look at the context but with how many reports they'll get, it's unlikely they will be able to accurately and thoroughly check the context, like the server rules of each server (or they may just not respect the server's rules, thereby removing relevant and important context and leading to false punishments) and the messages surrounding it and where the players are in game, what they were doing at the moments and previous and future ones, etc. That's just a few of the issues which is why some players don't want it that may not break rules in chat, so I hope that there is, or will be a toggle in paper in the future to disable or circumvent chat reporting if possible

[coarse lily]

Short answer: TBD.

Medium answer: no one singular person's views represent every single other person's views on the team.

[fresh pendant]

glad it's not been ruled out yet!

[coarse lily]

It's all new. Spigot doesn't implement it and therefore neither does Paper. Mojang is still working on it and we'll have to figure how what to do when Spigot implements it, depending on how they do it etc etc

So all still up in the air right now.

[fresh pendant]

Thought so, glad it's the case as MiniDigger's responses, seem to be.... not the best " If people would start to think logical again, the would be more inclined to agree with me, but then we would have no drama, so that can't happen.", I hope if he reads this, please be open to the possibility that people who aren't thinking the same as you aren't crazy/not thinking logically

[coarse lily]

I can't speak to the reasoning or rationale behind what Mini's said anywhere. I think people have valid concerns on both sides of the issue.

How it'll all shake out . . . I guess we'll have to wait and see.

How Spigot handles it will have a large impact on what Paper does. And no one knows what Spigot's gonna do yet.

[fresh pendant]

yep, hope it works well but each time microsoft has overreached their power, like forcing people to move to microsoft accounts, I haven't seen any benefit from microsoft's actions in respect to forcing minecraft players to do things

[coarse lily]

I meant how it'll shake out in terms of implementation.

As far as being for or against it, I'd call myself neutral for now.

[fresh pendant]

I would like to say I'm neutral but I am biased against it as microsoft typically, from my experience, doesn't do things that benefit the players

[coarse lily]

Microsoft has their reasons, however good or bad those reasons might be.

I would rather not have migrated my account to a Microsoft account but my choice was do that or stop playing the game. So for a lot of things they kinda hold the cards, unfortunately.

[fresh pendant]

Same, it is unfortunate

[true canyon]

Going to MS accounts gave us security in the form of being able to do 2fa. The chat reporting will help with the incredible number of absolutely horrible things said in game chats that deserve system wide bans.

There's way too much "they are going to ruin things" floating about and that extreme view (without the system being finalized or having a single release out) is a bit much at the moment. It isn't helped that a lot of true nonsense is getting spread about, resulting in confusion of what things even look like now let alone how it could be at release.

[lament patio]

MS accounts also helps server owners, we get less trouble with alts

[potent wedge]

News: alt services have migrated all their accounts

[fresh pendant]

There's way too much "they are going to ruin things" floating about and that extreme view (without the system being finalized or having a single release out)
I think it is in part because microsoft, I'd say in the past, in all avenues, makes their products and services worse with each update/release, so when they touch something, it seems to always get worse not better

[warm anchor]

it's fine to be concerned but let's wait and see how it plays out. The current trend of being outraged on things that literally hasnt happened yet isnt really a good look for people against the safety features.

[true canyon]

MS has done great with plenty of things. GitHub hasn't fallen over and keeps improving. They're doing some actual open source work. They made o365 and OneDrive no longer absolute trash. It's just easy to highlight a large corporation's failures, and I get the fear of a company taking more control but they are making it clear they are targeting the absolute worst of the worst and I'm okay with it. Plenty of other online systems ban people for being awful and it works out okay.

[warm anchor]

club penguin ban speedrun

[true canyon]

But how will I blindly speculate that it will all end in tears if I have to wait until something actually happens :(

[fresh pendant]

While I agree that we should see how they execute the system before passing judgement, it is a scary thing as the people scared or worried about it, (not sure if this is the reason for most people but I would assume this is the most likely reason) don't believe the staff will be do their due diligence in checking out player reports, in part due to the volume of reports relative to the people who are assigned to review them, but I do indeed hope it succeeds but yeah, as mbaxter says, the fear is a company taking more control (when it's not really necessary or needed imo, chat has been fine in all servers I've been on)

[pallid edge]

I generally think what ms is doing is great. If they end up fucking up and becoming the next paypal of moderation, paper can still opt-in to "fight against it" and change their decision later on

[ripe sphinx]

Also as I understand it, M$ and mojang are still seperate, Mojang is responsible for the day-to-day, and M$ just gives them nudges from time to time (i.e. asking them for M$ account migrations / chat reporting, leaving the how up to mojang)

[lament patio]

I'm not convinced on the whole "volume of reports" thing, ngl

[warm anchor]

May I ask you how do you get the figure of the size of the support staff?

[lament patio]

If they get a lot of reports, I'd say most will either be fake or spam, which Mojang said they'll act on to discourage it

[warm anchor]

you get punished for making false report

[fresh pendant]

lol

[warm anchor]

which is outlined in the FAQ page

[true canyon]

You can automate spam out without manual review, too.

And duplicate reports obviously don't require duplicate reviews

[rain geyser]

sorry for interrupting, but does anyone know if there are good servers for minecraft datapack development, specifically worldgen?

[lament patio]

Hmm, Idk any specifics but there are some resources in Discords for the famous worldgen datapacks, like WWOO and Terralith

[warm anchor]

yeah those are probably the best

just stalk thier daily discussions there

[true canyon]

Please don't feel bad for interrupting, your question is way better than conversation #649 about the chat reporting.

I'm so tired 😩

[fresh pendant]

ehh, I was just saying one probable problem, the number of players compared to the number of staff, I think it is a fair assumption that there will be more players reporting than staff, 140million active users (what I found from https://searx.be/search?q=minecraft+playercount), lets assume 1% of them are playing multiplayer (not sure if this is a fair number or not), 1.4million players playing multiplayer, lets assume 1% of them report a chat message, that is 14k reports, not sure how frequent it would be but would microsoft or mojang be able to delegate enough resources to not get overwhelmed with reports?

[pallid edge]

Yayyy it continues

[lament patio]

I feel like most multiplayer servers are private, that is, within a group of friends

[fresh pendant]

I just feel it is an important matter which I think is evident by how many conversations you have experienced about this, I am happy that you have went through the time to hear us out even if there are so many of us with the same concern

But yeah, as you all have pointed out, we will wait and see to see how it is executed, not much more we can do than that

[true canyon]

The issue is it's the same unfounded fears every time that we just need to wait and see, usually with at least one completely wrong "fact" like "they will ban for saying poop"

[pallid edge]

They could use an AI to try and automate throwing out seemingly false reports. Microsoft does own GPT-3, so...

[true canyon]

So we get really tired. And lots are getting "informed" by people who are either knowingly lying about details, baselessly speculating, or just downright mislead/misinformed themselves

[fresh pendant]

yeah with how much telemetry microsoft collects, it could be possible to train an AI to get good at that

[fresh pendant]

I hope I am not doing that if that is what you mean

[lament patio]

You're fine, it's just that some of the discussions here and elsewhere ... Oh boy

[true canyon]

No, but you may have been "informed" by someone with bad intentions leading to your strooong concerns.

[fresh pendant]

That is a possibility, I see what you mean, I hope I was not misinformed and am not by extension misinforming or spreading FUD (think that's how it's spelled), I think my concerns boil down to, now that I think about it is, that I was told that they could ban people from multiplayer, like globally and even singleplayer (heard that from a friend, seems a bit unlikely though unless they require you to be online/connected to internet to load up or play singleplayer), and people make mistakes, while servers can make mistakes or be malicious, it is less damaging than someone making a mistake or not getting paid enough (to care) to do their job well to get you globally banned, but if I am misinformed on that front then I would say my concerns are alleviated and I thank you for informing me of the correct information

[ripe sphinx]

I believe you were misinformed on the singleplayer front, I have only seen reference to multiplayer bans. In extreme cases I suppose they can, and have completely shut down accounts, but that's, well, extreme cases

[fresh pendant]

yeah, as I said, seemed unlikely unless microsoft tries to do to minecraft what they failed to do with the xbox one (remember the online-only original announcement for the xbox one lol)

[rain geyser]

whats difference between terra and terralith

they both jars

[potent wedge]

I think the people saying it will be bad are Roblox players, there you'll get permanently banned what is literally a roll of the dice lmao

I'm sure there is other examples where a filter does it's job too badly so they make it like roblox's

Maybe it takes time but allways happens

[lament patio]

Terra is a Spigot/Paper plugin

Terralith is a Minecraft datapack

[rain geyser]

ok

i figured it out without having to use terra plugin through slicedlime's vanilla examples

[molten egret]

O

W

O

[silver nexus]

No.

[molten egret]

No?

Why not?

[swift root]

I believe that could be considered low-level spam, in fact

that might be a reason for no

[warm anchor]

[unkempt jackal]

[wind geyser]

ur mom

[sharp spindle]

i see this as a W

AP Calculus AB got a 4
AP CSP got a 4

[vernal moth]

Cooool, more discussions of boring topics with misinformed users

[little knoll]

this sounds like a dumb question but is there any commands to get the file size of worlds in game?

[coarse lily]

In game, not that I'm aware of.

[little knoll]

ah alright,

[coarse lily]

The game doesn't really care how big anything is on disk. There may be some plugins that calculate and trickle that info up.

But nothing out of the box.

[little knoll]

I ran chunky overnight and I want to check if it actually increased the worlds filesize, (as it should have)

[little knoll]

Gotcha

[coarse lily]

You can do that easily from the command line.

du -h

[little knoll]

I recon I'll do this via the SSH prompt

[coarse lily]

Yeah

[little knoll]

ah alrighty, Thanks! :)

ah that worked, from 14 gigabytes to 20 gigabytes, Chunky sure did generate new chunks.

thanks again :]

[tired fog]

searX user, nice

[viral hornet]

Pretty epic

Thanks for coming

[tired fog]

time to make the 294829th plugin that does this and only this for fame and glory

[ashen cliff]

Instantly muted and banned due to being a member of [redacted]base.

Less work.

[glass crag]

Then make an anarchy server

Just don't be a p*do

Doubtful that will happen

[silver nexus]

You can have an anarchy server without breaking Microsoft's requirements

It really isn't that high of a bar

[ashen cliff]

The server itself doesn't have rules, but the platform itself does.

[silver nexus]

I wouldn't want people that break Microsoft rules anyways

[glass crag]

The new rules only cover extreme and illegal actions

Idk why you'd want to support that

[silver nexus]

Sure

[glass crag]

Mojang have said it was 100% their decision not Microsoft

No

[silver nexus]

But the point remains, the rules aren't that strict.

[glass crag]

^

There's an faq that covers this

[silver nexus]

The reports will have plenty of context

[ashen cliff]

plenty
4 messages before, that you can currently reorder.

[glass crag]

https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/7317376541197-Minecraft-Java-Edition-Player-Reporting-FAQ

They say what it is in the next sentence

[bronze fractal]

...bad intentions? I realize there is the AFCraft petition but this is obviously an extreme, extreme minority of people actually trying to mislead people

[warm anchor]

Let’s have this same discussion for the 37957th times.

[ashen cliff]

37958th*

[warm anchor]

Sorry I miscounted

I fail to see how that’s relevant to your current point here

But I suggest you to actually read the faq page provided and seek the proper channel to provide your valuable feedback

[ashen cliff]

Don't worry. You will be able to request an unban, by verifying your skin color.
Fallout style.

[warm anchor]

[ashen cliff]

You don't even need one, currently.

[warm anchor]

I suggest you to read and actually understand the inner working before making comments that make yourself look like a fool. You can find good information here @vague nebula https://gist.github.com/kennytv/ed783dd244ca0321bbd882c347892874

As @ashen cliff mentioned, chat signing currently does not even work on spigot or paper

Such mod is literally pointless as of today

[bronze fractal]

doesn't it currently work when using vanilla chat? just no API for it yet?

[warm anchor]

Yea it’s actually simple

If you don’t be an ass, you are likely not gonna be banned

As outlined in the faq again (one you are suppose to read) that the offense is only going to apply those most extreme form of hate speech

You will know this if you actually take your time to do the reading

[bronze fractal]

lol

if you want to avoid it, currently you can just install any of the chat plugins

[ripe sphinx]

but again it's only the most extreme stuff that can get you banned anyways

[bronze fractal]

they will relay messages back to other clients as a system message

when someone files "hate speech" under "dark humor" and says they want to be able to do it, they are probably under that extreme category

but whatever. no judgement from me, I'm just here to provide information

[ashen cliff]

Will there be false bans? Yes.
Will you get false banned? Probably not.
Will you get banned for sending the AACS encryption key in chat? It's M$, not Sony.

[warm anchor]

We will share our private keys as token of friendship

(You go first)

[coarse lily]

If your concern is really "I want to be able to say the n word" then I'm not sure a lot of people are going to sympathize here.

None of this has been implemented in any forks yet.

It's all TBD how it's going to be handled.

[warm anchor]

@vague nebula be honest. Have you read the link I sent you

[bronze fractal]

there won't be a vanilla option for it, but fabric, forge, and paper ecosystem will have plugins/mods available for stripping chat signautres

[warm anchor]

Then why are you asking question that’s already answered in the post?

[glass crag]

He wants to be racist so I guess his only choice is to block the system 🤡

[coarse lily]

Again, if "I want to be racist" is your argument . . . I mean I think we're kinda done here.

But we don't know what the mechanisms will look like yet. Will have to wait and see.

You said FB was better because you could say the n word.

Anyway, I don't think we need another go round of this yet again. Will have to wait and see what happens and what gets implemented. If it's something you don't like once implemented then you'll have to decide how you want to handle it from there I guess.

Okay

[warm anchor]

Cool. Thank you for your feedback

[smoky cloud]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/613163671870242842/992948529079271484/trim.4733AD6F-A67C-4F2F-AFE1-BE0C122CF149.mov

[silver nexus]

If it gets you banned, I'm not sure it was funny in the first place.

[smoky cloud]

It's 2022 and people still think racism is funny

[silver nexus]

How can you find something that is able to be classified as hate speech funny?

[coarse lily]

Equating volleyball to racism is an odd leap.

[bronze fractal]

there isn't a great advantage to doing the bypass inside the server software, a plugin will give the same sort of functionality, since it's just a matter of cancelling the event of relaying signed messages to the client and instead formatting the message as a system message, which is relatively simple

[coarse lily]

Anyway, you've said enough by now at this point. You don't like it, if it's implemented you'll use something else, etc.

No one is convincing anyone else of their side at this point.

[ripe sphinx]

No.

[bronze fractal]

pls don't spread your nonsense here

would be better to just talk about the technical aspects here

[warm anchor]

extreme confused noise

[ripe sphinx]

Being racist is being bad. No ifs ands or buts.

[smoky cloud]

I can love people unless they're a certain race

[bronze fractal]

rekt

[ripe sphinx]

If one of the mods doesn't ban you, I'd be incredibly interested to see your rationale for that

dammit

[warm anchor]

[bronze fractal]

^ called it

[coarse lily]

I don't think anyone is going to convince anyone of their side of this. People are going to come here and say they don't like it, but telling them they're wrong just isn't gonna work.

[ripe sphinx]

I would love to know their thought processes though ngl

See how on earth they can connect the dots of being racist is ok, or how hate speech is dark humor

[tired fog]

most (like, 99.99%) instances of people still using MCP are on versions 1.12.2 and below tbh

kinda gotta go into the wild wild to find something using it 1.13+

[bronze fractal]

the "racist" and "good person" venn diagram is usually pretty easy to figure out how to draw, not for them

[coarse lily]

I'm not convinced you're going to an an honest reply out of someone who wants to say the n word and thinks racism is okay.

[ripe sphinx]

I mean that's possible, but if they believe it then somehow they must be rationalizing it

[coarse lily]

They might be, but getting an honest and forthright response in a reasonable way from someone on Discord about it seems like a fool's errand.

[ripe sphinx]

yeah fair enough I suppose

[coarse lily]

They either actually aren't racist and just want to troll people, are racist but aren't in a place where they're willing to have a real conversation about it, or are racist and hate you. Probably 99% of people fall into one of those three.

(The ones being racist on Discord. Not like all humans)

And I'm guessing that realistically 80% of that is kids who just want to say the n word and don't care/don't know better and actually aren't really racist at all. But they just want to troll and say stupid shit.

Also Eternity has been typing for a long time and I am concerned.

[ripe sphinx]

writing a small novel eternity?

[coarse lily]

"As a young boy I roamed the free fields of Minecraft, pondering all that the blocks would provide . . . " -Eternity, probably

[warm anchor]

Yeah ugh decided against sending it here

[coarse lily]

Haha

DM it

Quitter.

[warm anchor]

@ripe sphinx has DM disabled

[ripe sphinx]

FR accepted, surprised I didn't already have you friended

[smoky cloud]

Based on a GitHub issue that had a stupidly long backstory but no description of the actual issue

[warm anchor]

Source: me

[ripe sphinx]

lowkey "how to parse html with regex" vibes

[worn ember]

I actually tried to do this at some point 😂😂

[simple karma]

yo mind giving me some advice on self hosted project management software?

stuff like clickup but self hosted

i basically want trello boards + chat + docs in one tool

[coarse lily]

I haven't seen anything that encompasses all of that which is self hosted.

[peak ginkgo]

just use linear and smile

[ashen cliff]

Owncloud/Nextcloud maybe?

[simple karma]

i found two which did that

but ofc they lacked major feature, dark theme

😂

[simple karma]

ill try these

[vernal moth]

Dark theme can be provided by dark reader

[simple karma]

it never perfect tho

nextcloud seems the best

taiga seemed nice but its like 1.5 gigs for some reason

and funcionality isnt that huge

[craggy turtle]

nextcloud has a nice dark theme in their store too

https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/breezedark

[simple karma]

i think im gonna make my own for uniform look

theme isnt a problem as long as its possible to make one without tricks like userstyles

[vernal moth]

Man I feel dirty, I am doing a POC to self host google tag manager to avoid adblockers

[radiant oriole]

[worn ember]

you dirty man

meanwhile my dad is blasting darude sandstorm in the backyard

[vernal moth]

Don't worry, the image google shat out is absolutely unusable

Holy shit it's so bad

Even once I got the image running it's just straight up not logging anything but uncaught promises which is done automatically by node

[vagrant marlin]

darude is always there for us

banger 🔥

[worn ember]

true

[vagrant marlin]

darude is always there for us finns when we need someone for eurovision

even though we always lose

😎

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1543666631032930304?t=fZ_E4KuIj1z9OxTYwkzJ0w&s=19

Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball)

awareness level: 0
drunkenness level: 98
fireproof superpowers: 100

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This is literally me

Absolutely drunk, no idea what happens around me, but I still save the day 😂

[worn ember]

i wonder if he got burned but didnt notice cuz hes so drunk

[golden gust]

I think I ripped a layer of brain off in my sleep

[worn ember]

theres not much left there now is there

[golden gust]

I mean, it's had some benefits over the years

Like

I'm not mentally at the level where I can tolerate DED

[worn ember]

and you get to be a paper dev

good job

[spiral robin]

@mossy vessel

[twin lagoon]

@spiral robin node check

[crystal lily]

https://is.paper.sexy/ViewDistance.png

[full rune]

[mossy vessel]

good morning aber

[simple garden]

Hey anyone here a bow user in a server that uses a currency system?

a full stack of arrows cost $512 in my server, do you think that is to much?

[visual egret]

it depends on how inflated your currency is

[primal solar]

Anyone who could answer some github questions?

1. How do you pull like changes from github repo to local project?
2. How do workflow actions work exactly?

[golden gust]

1. depends on the repo setup

generally, you just git pull

Unless you're a fork, in which you'd basically wanna pull from their remote, github has a tutorial somewhere on how to do that type of stuff

[primal solar]

just git pull or something comes after that

[golden gust]

2. generally, they're just magical build configs which do stuff, you'd need to see the github docs, etc, on that

[simple garden]

So I use jobs for 1 currency gathering, also even more fish which they can sell fish by weight to a vendor and also I use coins which makes mobs and ore blocks drop coins

[golden gust]

just git pull if it's the correct branch and such

[simple garden]

And I don't mean to sound rude, but in text everything sounds rude without a smily face lol. I just have 1 player having a panic attack cause I didn't make arrows cheaper.

[coarse venture]

Sounds like a them problem.

Maybe Minecraft isn't the type of game they should be playing.

[primal solar]

ssh keys -_-

[golden gust]

||You're a cunt 🙂 ||

[coarse venture]

Just for saying that, I think they should be allowed to ping you once.

[simple garden]

So once you join my server if bright bold letters it says extreme difficulty. I even told them it is not meant to easy. I even have the mobs level scale to the player strength. I am focusing on making it dark souls hard with that Pokémon grind lol

[golden gust]

what can I sa, we and the assies share a common tongue

I mean, at the end of the day, some players like the grind, some don't

Server I was part of years ago had dungeons, and we'd pretty much always have people grinding gear to go visit the dungeons to gank tf outta them

others where more inclined to run around aimlessly to get enchanted gear and such to sell to the people who didn't wanna deal with getting gear for the dungeons, etc

Like, either you cater to one group specifically and give them a good experience, or try to acomadate other playstyles, have means for people who aren't good at bashing mobs in something to do, etc

[simple garden]

K. I am just gonna make a little easy world where the loot doesn't transfer over then. So I can hopefully avoid complaining.

[rain geyser]

ig imma put this here instead of somewhere else because i didnt even start it yet, but i want axes to lose one durability when attacking instead of two. how do i do this?

[golden gust]

I mean, I love yourkit

I think visualvm had a plugin for analysing heap dumps

but, I mean, heap dump analysers aren't always the most amazing of tools to work with

You're tryna convey a full heap of information towards users

[nimble sleet]

anyone knows of some cool plugins?

[golden gust]

I mean, that's why I love ssh

heap dumps compress amazingly

[fresh pendant]

Ye, best search engine

[fresh pendant]

that's the worst insult you could ever give someone 😦

[wary summit]

Ppl? Does anyone knows if updated-nocheatplus works under 1.19 with latest dev ProtocolLib please? I keep getting "Packet level access via ProtocolLib not available" in log no matter what I do

[simple garden]

so hows everyones day lol

[ashen cliff]

Ah. eBay rubbing salt straight into my face: https://posili.me/i/bSE94Tsd-2022-07-04_17-59-51.png

[spiral robin]

@mossy vessel

[mossy vessel]

hello

toobased

[vernal moth]

https://streamable.com/0r3h0m

nothing to see here

[mild rune]

That’s a lot of tests

[little frost]

@untold meadow look another traffic light

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow

[little frost]

i've been complaining to kezz for many days about every single thing broken things i've spotted on github and there's so much

my favourite is this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/894886977470615582/991847120653000745/unknown.png

[untold meadow]

wow mini is delaying hangar launch in real time

[vernal moth]

that issue funnily is the same as many hangar issues

ssr mismatches

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

Someone just tried giving me a fake modern $100. The gold lettering was done with craft glitter and the blue strip was a solid colour that was printed on.

Very well done /s

@twin lagoon uwu

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon uwu

[twin lagoon]

i am not a weeb

the only weeb is you

[lavish compass]

(the below one is rendered in browser)

[twin lagoon]

okay that is hot but now port it to kotlin/js

[lavish compass]

i despise kotlin/js

[twin lagoon]

who asked

[lavish compass]

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[twin lagoon]

make adventure-webui work with it thx

[lavish compass]

i still havent implemented colors and shadows

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow cubxity hates us and wants us to die

[vestal jasper]

Smth a closet weeb would say

[golden gust]

No denial

[twin lagoon]

literally how would i ever be a weeb josh

[naive mantle]

Does anyone know how to make ranks in game based on XP level?...

[vestal jasper]

Uhh

I'll uhh get back to u on that Michael I have to go water my fridge rq

[twin lagoon]

exactly

[naive mantle]

Josh you gotta catch your fridge first before you water it... it's running

[vestal jasper]

Nah I turned it off this morning so it could defrost

[naive mantle]

x'D

[untold meadow]

shadow is ridiculously easy dw

literally just offset and like 40% darker color

webui has exact colouring for it

[twin lagoon]

Ok Kezz PR it or shut it

[little frost]

can't believe it

@untold meadow can you believe it

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow can you believe it

[untold meadow]

PR WHAT

PR THE WORKING CODE INTO THE REPO IT'S ALREADY IN ?

@little frost can you believe this guy

[twin lagoon]

When are we getting per-pixel rendering in webui

[spiral robin]

[little frost]

@twin lagoon can you believe this michael

[twin lagoon]

JavaScript and TypeScript ecosystem interoperability

kotlin/js epic get it going

[spiral robin]

@twin lagoon up to 25.7k nodes btw

[twin lagoon]

@spiral robin aeron check

[spiral robin]

Sob

[twin lagoon]

aber please give me insider trading advice

[spiral robin]

Buy

[vestal jasper]

@spiral robin can you believe it

[untold meadow]

aber please give me outsider trading advice

[spiral robin]

Sell

[vestal jasper]

Everything?

[untold meadow]

thank you

[spiral robin]

https://youtu.be/BcT0P87hGXI

[jagged egret]

Hey anyone know why Windows 10 would say no internet and won't resolve addresses on any network

I just want to use Linux 😭

[golden gust]

check the network adapter settings

if wifi, try uninstalling the wifi thing in the hardware manager and reboot

[onyx holly]

anyone know how to enable tnt dupers on a paper server?

[crystal lily]

Having problems with TNT Duping, Bedrock Breaking or Sand Duping Vanilla Exploits? See: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854 for information.

[jagged egret]

I have uninstalled and reinstalled and rebooted and tried a hotspot and messed with manual/automatic DNS

It gets an IP address on ipconfig but it never gets a default gateway

[golden gust]

does setting a default gateway fix it?

[onyx holly]

unsupported-settings:
allow-headless-pistons: false
allow-permanent-block-break-exploits: false
allow-piston-duplication: true
perform-username-validation: true

these are the current settings but it doesn't seem to work

is there anything else that should be changed?

[warm anchor]

Make sure you build the machine correctly

Especially the rail

[jagged egret]

It didn't but I'm not sure if I did it right

[warm anchor]

Which rail you pick

[golden gust]

should generally be the IP address of the router

[jagged egret]

Why the freak is DHCP disabled

Gotta love Windows

I literally did nothing, just closed it, came back, and no wifi would work

[molten egret]

Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol?

[golden gust]

yes

[molten egret]

tf does that do again?

[golden gust]

windows is just looking out for you bro

gets an IP adress. etc, from the network

[molten egret]

oh

windows is actually pretty smart

if you can't download malware

how can you get hacked?

[golden gust]

there is always a way

[vernal moth]

My remote controlled butt plug supports DHCP, there is nothing smart about understanding DHCP, lol

[golden gust]

Soooo...

live stream, and chat interactions?

hangar dev XXX edition

[limber knot]

wtf did I just stumble into...

[onyx holly]

Detector rail, it works in singleplayer just not on the server

[warm anchor]

Can you root the plug…? And install your own OS on it?

[vernal moth]

Idk, wanna come over and try?

[warm anchor]

I will send cat over

[golden gust]

You get the programmer socks yet? https://www.amazon.co.uk/DRESHOW/dp/B08DRFC2C2/

[vernal moth]

(I hope you all are realizing this is a joke)

[warm anchor]

Misclick

[limber knot]

not sure if you can root them but you can hack them (nsfw I guess?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsQ2VWEfduM

[warm anchor]

Why is call button in middle

[golden gust]

wut

[golden gust]

weak

[limber knot]

iirc one of the exploits was an RCE in the desktop client/chat app

[warm anchor]

I was trying to click the link but I clicked your name and then call button is conveniently right at center cat

[warm anchor]

Not sure about the on fire part…

Don’t look very fun

[golden gust]

friction burn bro

[warm anchor]

[charred sleet]

anyone got a script to install all nms versions to local

[vernal moth]

Why would anybody want or need that?

Paperweight exists

[charred sleet]

suppose a project was not using paperweight, but instead maven

[warm anchor]

Maybe wants to work on spig*t?

[jagged egret]

I remember ye olden days when build tools was it

[vernal moth]

Thankfully those are long gone

[void void]

you're joking but there's a spigot plugin for those that

[molten egret]

Malware Over Bluetooth™️ ©️2022 Microsoft Corporation

[lavish compass]

SO painful

[lavish compass]

We are a step closer

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon thoughts??

[vernal moth]

npm package wen

[golden gust]

*package(s)?

[latent minnow]

is there a channel that's best for asking questions about plugins?

[placid thicket]

continuing from yesterday's conversation. i was able to narrow down who started the pillager raid using core protect. but it didn't give me a hard yes/no. does anyone know of an existing plugin that would?

[void void]

there are a bunch of raid logger plugins

[golden gust]

depends on the nature of the questions, outside of like, the top 10 plugins, it's generally safe to assume that nobody around knows anything about them

[lavish compass]

i can invite you and the peopel who want access to the repo

it's HEAVILY WIP though

[vernal moth]

Sure!

[void void]

sounds fun 👀

[lavish compass]

its the opposite of fun*

[void void]

fair

[lavish compass]

browser rendering API is so bad

[void void]

it is still js after all

[lavish compass]

I may have to rewrite in WASM /s

[limber knot]

newind do you have any swap space

[latent minnow]

I'm just looking for a plugin that can display an area name on screen, when you're standing in that area

[golden gust]

I mean, leaving space is good

[latent minnow]

if anyone has heard about something like that

[golden gust]

excess ram will be used for disk caches

or, well, "free" ram

[lavish compass]

unused ram is wasted ram

[golden gust]

ur wasted

You, my friend

So go to the amazonian forest

and apologies to the tree whose sole purpose is creating enough oxygen for you to live

*should go

wow brain

[lavish compass]

are you ok cat

[golden gust]

CLEARLY

[placid thicket]

you say that. but my googling has failed to turn anything up

[golden gust]

basically, no

conversely, yes

swapoff, and then swapon

But, closed apps, etc, will be removed from swap

You've overprovisioned your momory

You're using more ram than you have

hence you have a good chunk of swap being used which massively excedes your "free" ram

So, that's 27G

but

that doesn't account for things like the heap

[crystal lily]

-Xmx controls the amount of heap memory assigned to the JVM, this does not include other memory used by java, or native memory used by other libraries such as netty (for networking) or SQLite. Please do not allocate all of your memory!

[warm anchor]

What kinda chunky proxy you using that need 2.5G lol

[magic river]

🤔

[golden gust]

it can use on the norm of like 1-2G of excess memory depending on needs

[warm anchor]

Proxy like velocity can get away with half a g

[magic river]

Supposedly the order I posted those is the order they were created

I know the last one is newest, it's a web3 video game console rug pull

[golden gust]

bungee at this point is knee deep in shit

I'd not recommend using it to start a new server these days

Velocity does need some work though

No, more, "it's a technical immutable hunk of junk"

Yes, remove entity metadata rewriting

Like, that was a patch added to waterfall because the entire metadata rewriting system hasn't been needed in years and generally causes more issues than it solves these days

ofc, it does induce behavioral differences, but, generally works fine

basically bungee screws with tab list entries when they're sent from the server

it disables rewriting entity metadata in favour of relying on the clients ability to reset itself

[visual egret]

out of curiosity, what plug-ins are you running?

[golden gust]

I mean, it stops the servers need to rewrite a chunk of data needlessly

most of the issues with bungee and CPU usage are architectural in nature

[magic river]

Instead of just reading the packet id and passing the rest of the data through blindly bungee has to decode all of those packets to see if they have something it should modify

[visual egret]

aren’t most of those compatible or have a velocity equivalent

just saying, velocity could be an option

are you fr

[golden gust]

JVM hotswapping

and the proxy starts up faster than oskars nan

[visual egret]

mean

[warm anchor]

You can use the free 3 month Xbox game code discord give you to make an account to test

Oof

I mean….

[void void]

it says that when you set it lol

[warm anchor]

That was one of the original selling point…

I actually got to keep mine early 0001

[golden gust]

That's funny

cos to me, you're a 0002

[warm anchor]

They have angel investors and Chinese Tencent

So they still have to make a profit

[charred sleet]

want mine? idk if i have used it

[warm anchor]

But it’s ok the amount of anime discord boosting will keep the light up for discord for a while

As long as they don’t fuck up

[visual egret]

if discord goes then most of the pc gaming market has no communication

[warm anchor]

You can find those research on google dont wanna go political but yes China is buying influence of western company that’s not something new

[golden gust]

China:
Everybody else: sus

[visual egret]

it’s safe to say people won’t let it die

[vestal jasper]

Back to Skype we go

[wide chasm]

What was that other chat service that was pretty similar to Discord?

[charred sleet]

teamspeak

[visual egret]

skype

[warm anchor]

Guilded

Bootleg discord

[wide chasm]

Yeah, guilded

[visual egret]

there was another one

mattermost?

[golden gust]

mattermost was a protocol iirc

[charred sleet]

i imagine

that must be more than staff

[golden gust]

oh, wait, no, self hosted chat service thingy; but, that goes back into the issues with self hosted anything and why TS kinda died

[visual egret]

TS is god awful

[golden gust]

(and why nobody ever really used mumble)

[warm anchor]

Mumble. Let’s go back

[visual egret]

I have no idea why people use it

mumble >>

[warm anchor]

I did use mumble…

[golden gust]

TS was familiar and cheap

[warm anchor]

Ventrio too

[visual egret]

I used mumble like twice

[golden gust]

Like, back in the early days enjin would literally give you a free TS server

[visual egret]

it’s roughly the same interface but it actually worked

[warm anchor]

Lmao I used to own an enjin forum cat

[golden gust]

Well, yea, but you have to remember that most people hosting servers aren't techies

[ripe sphinx]

I remember a server I played on had mumble as a backup for Discord's not-infrequent outages, and it was actually kinda ok. Wasn't spectacular, but it worked

[golden gust]

and the pro of TS is that people actually kinda knew about it beforehand

that's the server picker thingy

[warm anchor]

Those are public server

[golden gust]

but, yea, welcome to OS software, lol

[warm anchor]

You can host your own still iirc

[visual egret]

that looks old

[golden gust]

Well, yea

[warm anchor]

Mumble is older though

[golden gust]

but it was opensource and thus free to host

Bearing in mind that those are the things discord generally replaced

[visual egret]

what is revolt

[vernal moth]

I still have a TeamSpeak NPL that seems to auto renew

1024 users on 10 virtual servers

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, was a weird one as I never knew if we where eligable for it, and could never be assed to deal with it

[vernal moth]

I stole it at some Minecraft project a decade ago and used it ever since, lol

[warm anchor]

Hell no…

The moderation nightmare fuel

[void void]

signed voice packets when™️

[warm anchor]

Imagine if this is in MC https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22410790/valorant-riot-games-voice-moderation-ai-chat-recording

[vernal moth]

I had hoped the idiots would loose interest and focus on technoblade instead

But I guess they are back

[golden gust]

We used to have real life moderation

It was called a punch in the gobber

[visual egret]

technoblade <3

[warm anchor]

I’d take the job

[vernal moth]

Speaking about technoblade, poor noxy

https://twitter.com/Noxywoxy/status/1544041949904228354?t=hIFIL-vHhCVPBUyEvDqKvA&s=19

Noxy @ Hypixel Studios (@Noxywoxy)

Technoblades final prank on Hypixel :).

377,000 people have left messages so far, 45mil characters of text not inclusive of names, spacing and entry number.

Gonna roughly take 200 250 page A4 books to print it all out.

For context - longest novel ever was 9 mil characters

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Twitter · Jul 4, 2022, 7:34 PM

[visual egret]

oh god

are they actually gonna print it out

[vernal moth]

Or well, poor fucking forest

[visual egret]

technoblades death is going to generate a larger carbon footprint than his entire life has

[golden gust]

Theres always reconstituted dead tree carcass

[warm anchor]

If you eat vegetable you are literally eating their dead bodies. Let it sink in

[golden gust]

What can I say

Isn't that the epitemy of human life?

turning dead things into poop?

https://www.tiktok.com/@nopanicbutton/video/7046466108337048878

[coarse lily]

cat that wasn't funny

[golden gust]

I shall turn you into poop

[true canyon]

It's TikTok, what did you expect?

[coarse lily]

#getoffmylawn

[golden gust]

I just felt the need to crossref my comment, cos, you know, idk

[little frost]

and then turn it into wine!

[magic river]

I just watched someone get snapped in the middle of reading the channel backlog

[warm anchor]

Amaranth you read entire chat!?

[daring laurel]

is there such thing as a negative height texturepack, like the negative width texturepacks?

[magic river]

wat

[daring laurel]

like if I wanted to wrote text in the bottom left corner and I sent the message as a actionbar message with negative width/height to be put in the bottom left

[worthy geode]

use a really big font

character textures can be like 256x256 iirc, so just use large textures that have small text at the bottom

[magic river]

Are you trying to use stenography to hide messages from moderation?

[daring laurel]

no lol

I want to put a timer on the players screen

to show the time left in this game

[worthy geode]

is top right/left an option? an invisible bossbar might be easier, because you don't need to move it up/down

[twin lagoon]

putting things in any corner doesn't make sense

gui scales / resolutions are unpredictable

[worthy geode]

gui scale & resolution in the client info packet when 👀

[little frost]

anything chat related in the client info packet when

[worthy geode]

it has chat mode and colors at least.
but, more info in general in the client info packet when

[daring laurel]

1. how can I even make an invisible bossbar
2. would the text actually be in the top corner or would it be kind of stuck a little bit below like on the line where bossbar text is written?

[worthy geode]

replace one of the bossbar textures with a transparent one

its pretty much in the corner (ignore the german lol).
But Michael is right - resolution/GUI scale make it pretty much impossible

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/1543983485441957889

badidea 🪐 (@0xabad1dea)

I wasn’t trying to make trans pride aesthetic but the AI sure delivered

Likes

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Twitter · Jul 4, 2022, 3:42 PM

[worthy geode]

but the random thing on the floor

[magic river]

It almost looks like an artsy candy ad

https://time.is/

woo my clock works

Apparently my fingers don't though

[lament patio]

Oop

[magic river]

Unless your system has an uptime of like a month and hasn't lost or switched network connections that seems pretty bad

[charred sleet]

Ha! I got a bigger number

[lament patio]

Weird, Idk how this happened

Guess I'll just blame Windows

[twin lagoon]

windows time syncing is ass

i just use an additional program from the windows xp era to do it for me

[charred sleet]

does it even matter?

[twin lagoon]

being behind a few seconds is fine

[vernal moth]

Am ahead 1.4

Suckers

U all slow

[coarse lily]

I pay Michael to show up and manually set my clock to be current every day.