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worthy geode
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killing large numbers of mobs with powerful objects can be very satisfying

south raptor
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yeah

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but like I said it can be beaten by encasing

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and lighting torches

worthy geode
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yeah of course, they would need some abilities as well. but I don't think this is supposed to be vanilla anyways 😄

vernal moth
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I guess that's a compliment to my playing abilities? Lol

pastel reef
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How many blocks do I need to place my iron farms apart vertically in order for them to produce seperate iron golems?

coarse venture
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you can try googling for minecraft wiki iron golem

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their spawn conditions should be listed on fandom

summer rivet
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what is a good pagefile size if you have 8GB Ram an more slow HDD but a lot of space?

vagrant marlin
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whatever the system deems as good automatically

summer rivet
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well someone told me to change it if its laggy

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How to reduce the memory used by java additional to the memory used by the programm running in java?

vagrant marlin
summer rivet
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?

vagrant marlin
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you do know that activity on the hdd can slow it down

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and a larger pagefile is more activity

summer rivet
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so what do i do if im always high hdd useage and also at memory limit?

vagrant marlin
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get a better pc

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or install linux

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👍

summer rivet
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its a good pc

warm anchor
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It’s time to throw those away and get a NVMe

vagrant marlin
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thats low tier

summer rivet
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8gb is gaming hardware

warm anchor
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It’s bare minimum wdym lol

vagrant marlin
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32gb is starting to become recommended nowadays

summer rivet
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2-4gb is office

vagrant marlin
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lol

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what year are you living in? 2010?

warm anchor
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2-4G is barely bootable on windows11

summer rivet
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in 2014 i had 1gb of ram...

vagrant marlin
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you should invest into a new pc

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or just buy a cheap ssd

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your life will improve

warm anchor
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That would be my suggestion as well as to do some meaningless optimization. You can’t optimize a dead horse to run faster

summer rivet
vagrant marlin
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buy an ssd.

summer rivet
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its not a dead horse

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its a good pc

vagrant marlin
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a hdd as a main drive is practically a dead horse

summer rivet
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it even have a dgpu

warm anchor
vagrant marlin
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this is a so called "good pc"

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your's isnt

summer rivet
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i will never touch smth like that lol

vagrant marlin
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i thought the same too once

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yet here i am

summer rivet
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its expensive

vagrant marlin
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but anyways, a sensible upgrade would be more ram and a new ssd

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ssd's are really cheap nowadays

summer rivet
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and i dont buy new hardware for a micrsoft that kills my pc

vagrant marlin
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install linux then

summer rivet
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ye i tried that

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i cannot install mc there

vagrant marlin
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what is that? minecraft

summer rivet
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it did not worked for me

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the launcher did not even opened

vagrant marlin
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id deem that as a skill issue

summer rivet
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i tried on two different computers

vagrant marlin
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minecraft is the easiest game to run on linux lmao

summer rivet
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and around 10 times

warm anchor
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I hope your system ain’t 32bit… PepeLa

vagrant marlin
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kek

summer rivet
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no.

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i wonder if there is way to survive with old software

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like for old windows versions and programms

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like is there a big archive?

vagrant marlin
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if your solution to a shitty pc is to run windows 95, just use linux.

summer rivet
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a lot cant be found

vagrant marlin
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https://pop.system76.com/ just install this

rare python
summer rivet
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i have a bunch of programms that are only avaible as exe

rare python
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Wine go brrrrrr

vagrant marlin
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what are those programs

warm anchor
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Your standard is quite low PepeLa

summer rivet
vagrant marlin
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they will run with wine then no problem

summer rivet
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?

vagrant marlin
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Wine (originally an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator") is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, macOS, & BSD.

summer rivet
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oh like a vm

vagrant marlin
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no.

rare python
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No.

vagrant marlin
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a compatibility layer

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you can run those programs just as if you were on windows

summer rivet
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are u sure the programm will run there as good as in windows?

vagrant marlin
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pretty much, yes.

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it doesnt have to emulate anything, it just translates some simple system calls

rare python
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It implements a bunch of Windows APIs to allow those applications to run on Linux.

summer rivet
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again its an old software it runs already in compartibilty mode i think

vagrant marlin
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it will run better on wine then lmao

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windows's compatibility layer aint the fastest

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wine is actually more compatible with older applications

summer rivet
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if this works like u state why would ppl then use windows?

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there must be a difficult thing

vagrant marlin
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because people are stupid and dont want change

rare python
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A number of reasons.

vagrant marlin
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linux is different

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linux is not windows

summer rivet
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whats about antivirus in linux and system backups, pagefile...?

vagrant marlin
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antivirus = no need
system backups = there are many apps for that
pagefile = there is "swap"

rare python
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  • Some people don't realise they have other options.
  • Newer applications can be a bit hit or miss.
  • Linux is seen as overly complicated.
  • Some people are happy with Windows and don't care.
vagrant marlin
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most dont see a reason to switch from windows, and i get that

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i didnt either, but i simply didnt like the way windows was going, so i switched

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this was on windows 10 btw

summer rivet
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idk i heard linux doesnt work with amd , have like 1% of the programms of what can run windows

rare python
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I switched, and I have not regretted it.

vagrant marlin
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amd is the best hardware you can use on linux

summer rivet
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i have intel bruh

lavish compass
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MAYBE this will become true one day

warm anchor
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You ain’t getting virus the same way on Linux PepeLa

vagrant marlin
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intel is as good too

summer rivet
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oh wait im dumn it was intel not amd

vagrant marlin
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its mainly on the gpu side

warm anchor
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Instead you get unpatch security issues and user error

vagrant marlin
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intel and amd are both fine

summer rivet
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idk i just heard it xd

warm anchor
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@lavish compass

vagrant marlin
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dont know where you heard that from

lavish compass
rare python
warm anchor
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|| weeb || @lavish compass

lavish compass
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@warm anchor :weeb:

warm anchor
lavish compass
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:AngryElmo:

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COME ON

summer rivet
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so still how do i install minecraft on linux?

lavish compass
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server or client

summer rivet
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i tried a lot

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client

vagrant marlin
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install pop_os

lavish compass
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what distro

vagrant marlin
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its really simple

rare python
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The official launcher is available.

warm anchor
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Official launcher should work fine.

rare python
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But you will probably want PolyMC.

summer rivet
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it told me first i had to install arm architecture or smth idk

rare python
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Much better.

lavish compass
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I personally use PolyMC from flathub

warm anchor
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You have an arm consumer cpu? Made by AMD? What timeline I am in surprisedpika

summer rivet
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idk its years ago it told me when trying to install the package that it want amd_arch or something

vagrant marlin
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linking this once again, https://pop.system76.com/, just install that

summer rivet
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some library ig

vagrant marlin
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pop_os is really simple to use

rare python
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What...?

lavish compass
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I don't recall intel making aarch64 cpus

summer rivet
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there was a store with programms with minecraft but that was not java edition but smth like an edition with limited world size super simple

rare python
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Same.

lavish compass
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I think you may be talking about Minecraft for Raspberry PI

summer rivet
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ye like that xd

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but i wanted normal one

rare python
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Okay, your from another timeline for sure.

vagrant marlin
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what linux disto did you use?

summer rivet
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linux mint

lavish compass
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linux mint should run MC just fine

vagrant marlin
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they probably dont serve the official launcher on the store by default

lavish compass
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you can just install the .deb package from the official website

summer rivet
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ye i did that

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i got it after a bunch of errors installed

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and then it did not started

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it did not open the launcher

vagrant marlin
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ok

summer rivet
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i got it once worked with the old minecraft.jar launcher

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but i wasnt able to run minecraft above beta

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bc idk opengl issue

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and i didnt found opengl drivers

vagrant marlin
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what specs does your pc have?

lavish compass
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bingo

vagrant marlin
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release date 2003

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🤨

summer rivet
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ye i only have xp drivers

vagrant marlin
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good pc much

summer rivet
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that was the pc i tried

lavish compass
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:KEKWHYPER:

vagrant marlin
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what specs does the pc you currently use have

lavish compass
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"not i5"?

vagrant marlin
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those arent very specific

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your i5 could be 15 years old, your nvidia gpu could be 25 years old

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what models are they

warm anchor
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the issue isnt when you bought that PC

lavish compass
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Surely a 3 year old PC won't run Minecraft at 15 FPS

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When was it built?

warm anchor
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the issue is you bought an old hardware PC 3 years ago

vagrant marlin
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my 2016 hp laptop with a celeron runs 1.19 at 70fps

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kek

lavish compass
warm anchor
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or you bought a PC that's only ever meant for light usage

untold meadow
warm anchor
lavish compass
vagrant marlin
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could you open up task manager and check what cpu and gpu the pc has?

untold meadow
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whatcha planning?

vagrant marlin
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well, tell us?

untold meadow
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oh your chat thingy

lavish compass
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yes

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the ultimate trollium

warm anchor
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so tell us then

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the exact model of your CPU

untold meadow
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honestly one of the features I want the most is an embed-style live preview/editor thing

vagrant marlin
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i5-750S and gt 210

smoky cloud
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Ampere Altra

vagrant marlin
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oracle gaming pc

lavish compass
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pixel-perfect minecraft chat rendering when??? @untold meadow

smoky cloud
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I think you can get Ampere Altra workstations actually

warm anchor
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That’s a high entry point cost wise

vagrant marlin
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can i run cs:go on ampere altra

lavish compass
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does cs:go even support arm

smoky cloud
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Sure, if you use an x86 emulator

lavish compass
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you could try running macos on it and then run rosetta

vagrant marlin
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csgo does run on macos

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through rosetta though

smoky cloud
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I ran Bedrock Dedicated Server in an x86 emulator once, not fun

lavish compass
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running bedrock dedicated server isn't fun in the first place

vagrant marlin
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Is it Possible to Play CS Go in Raspberry Pi

warm anchor
lavish compass
vagrant marlin
lavish compass
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This isn't even true

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but ok

vagrant marlin
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thank you apurva singh you are abso-fucking-lutely wrong

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i will run csgo on raspberry pi

smoky cloud
warm anchor
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The meta is run paper server but only allow bedrock to join via geyser and call it bedrock server

vagrant marlin
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You need a good processor at least Intel i3 8th Generation or AMD Ryzen 3 2200 for good performance.

i hope this guy knows what year csgo was released in

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the game hasnt gotten that much heavier during that lol

smoky cloud
meager tusk
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Never.

pastel reef
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What kind of Sempron is this?

lavish compass
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webui is written in Kotlin? 🤨

untold meadow
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yee boiiii sunglas

vernal moth
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you don't know half of it 😄

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initially, I ported the entirety of minimessage + some adventure shims to kotlin so I could transpile it to js so it would run without a server 😂

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that was cursed

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lol its still online

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just look at the code

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I basically did let IJ convert everything and fixed what broke

vagrant marlin
vernal moth
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initial readme, lol

lavish compass
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I don't want to even look at this

vernal moth
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its prime kotlin code by yours truely!

lavish compass
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Kotlin/JS is an absolute catastrophe

vernal moth
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(altho later kezz came in and gave it the nox treatment with a nice UI)

untold meadow
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are you telling me you're not a fan of thing!!.unsafeCast<TextElement>()

lavish compass
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I would rather use jQuery

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/s

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I will try Svelte for my chat thing, never used it before

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will be fun

worn ember
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Would it be 'illegal' to map Minecraft servers with no malicious intent? I know it is in some countries with malicious intent but just documenting should be fine right?

vernal moth
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depends on your country

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your host will get abuse reports about you

worn ember
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how? its just a ping packet

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they're not even logged afaik

vernal moth
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its opening mass tcp connections to giant IP ranges

worn ember
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oh yeah ig thats true

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i'd have to check hetzners ToS to check if i'm even allowed to do it on their VPS'

vernal moth
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didn't liveoverflow did this and aborted it?

worn ember
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i have no clue

vernal moth
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lemme find the video

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skip to 11min or so

worn ember
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oh yeah copenheimer also was the inspiration around this lmfao

vernal moth
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was actually this vid

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6min

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altho guess thats a bit different cause he did actually login and send a message

worn ember
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yeah looks like he wanted to check for the log4j exploit

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so thats a bit more malicious lmao

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i just want to map the amount of servers and how it compares to lets say bstats statistics

thorny totem
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lol there's mcl,ist pinging servers, idk if its mapping or not but similar. Banned their IP from my MC server xD

frigid lion
worn ember
frigid lion
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Hehe, as I said. You need a paid account, but you can view a few for free

worn ember
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well i cant view any cuz it just applies that filter i cant use

frigid lion
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Do you have an account on the site that you are logged into?

worn ember
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nah

frigid lion
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Read the error message harold

frigid lion
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Here is some cool data over serverhosts hosting Minecraft servers:

real saddle
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from where do i get these symbols?

lavish compass
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Oracle cloud

real saddle
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what

lavish compass
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Replying to erlpil

real saddle
worn ember
simple garden
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anyone know of a plugin that is similar to botania(forge,fabric

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im looking for one that works for a paper server

worn ember
simple garden
worn ember
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that does sound like a big struggle

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theres a reason they're mods lol

viral dagger
worthy geode
void void
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: / log 4 j again?

visual egret
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you fuckin

void void
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Got you

visual egret
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😭

void void
glass crag
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june 1th

red bloom
visual egret
vagrant marlin
worn ember
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was that just an ICMP packet or was that the actual MC ping packet?

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cuz a lot of firewalls block ICMP

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i know about it, just wanted to make something myself

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for "educational purposes"

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i think you can send your own payload with massscan too

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so it would be possible to just send the ping request

hazy badger
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Yo guys! Any way to upgrade hetzner anti doss?

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It's sooo bad

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I need something more powerfull

vagrant marlin
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you cant upgrade something that you dont own lol

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use a proxy, such as tcpshield

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tcpshield has their own software to protect too, its better than ovh

worn ember
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whats cloudflares one?

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Spectrum or something?

vagrant marlin
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yeah, its really fucking expensive

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wont be viable for any server lol

worn ember
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oh ok, never looked at the price

vagrant marlin
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some hosts and ddos protection services use spectrum, but they've gotten some special deals for it

worn ember
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"if you gotta ask how much it costs you cant afford it" kinda deal xD

vagrant marlin
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yes

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hypixel uses spectrum, must be on some deal too

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hypixel is rich 💰

hazy badger
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can someone please send me the link to tcpshild velocity plugin?

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it's quite urgent

twin lagoon
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have you tried googling

hazy badger
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yeah

upbeat falconBOT
twin lagoon
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are you sure

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also the plugin is not necessary in 2022

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enable proxy protocol

hazy badger
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Wha you mean?

solemn crescent
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Any plugin that shows active "Player's name" in worldselector ?

simple karma
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my head's gonna explode because of oci

warm anchor
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Have you try asking tcp support? They have a discord

hazy badger
warm anchor
simple karma
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ima cry fr

hazy badger
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Let's see what they say

twin lagoon
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they will probably just redirect you to their documentation

hazy badger
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Because buying the premium plan (100$ a month) just for geyser players seems quite a huge thing

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My server is not THAT big

worn ember
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not for brokebacks

twin lagoon
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how big is big

hazy badger
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big is being able to pay 100$ a month just for allowing bedrock player to join

twin lagoon
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right but you are getting attacked

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how big is your server

hazy badger
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50 players average

twin lagoon
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cracked server?

worn ember
hazy badger
twin lagoon
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50 players & an additional $100/mo shouldn't be too big of an issue

hazy badger
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i mean

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if i can somehow avoid spending them it would be better

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am i wrong?

worn ember
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ddos the kid back blaze

hazy badger
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What about using ovh?

worn ember
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i havent used them for mc servers ¯_(ツ)_/¯

simple karma
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how strong is the ddos

twin lagoon
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ovh's protection is generally fine

hazy badger
simple karma
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tbh provider should be the anti ddos service by itself

hazy badger
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The server had 56 players online

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they did ddos

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and it made 30 players leave

simple karma
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thats not many players

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and whats the size of ddos

hazy badger
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How can i know it?

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I have to be honest, i'm not expert with this

simple karma
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check bandwidth

hazy badger
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no idea on how to do it

simple karma
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idk where you do it on server itself, since my provider gives me a graph of it

hazy badger
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i have a dedicated server

simple karma
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from who

hazy badger
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hetzner

simple karma
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hmm

visual egret
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how do you know you’re being DDOS’d

simple karma
visual egret
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why do you think you’re being DDOS’d?

simple karma
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how do you know without knowing the traffic

hazy badger
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i mean everyone had 2k ping randomly, 30 players just crashed randomly

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all in the same moment

simple karma
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my server had network problems and i wasnt ddosed, yet everyone had like 700 ping

hazy badger
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isn't that ddos?

visual egret
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one off?

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could just be network issues

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if it happens again then start logging data

simple karma
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nobody wastes ddos on such small servers

hazy badger
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How can i check it?

hazy badger
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You don't know italian community

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Trust me

visual egret
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if it happens again, come back

hazy badger
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We're on the top 10 italian server

simple karma
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literally everyone says that

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top 10 with 50 players peak?

hazy badger
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Bro i don't care what other people says

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I'm here for help

visual egret
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feel free to @ me

hazy badger
simple karma
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everyone says "oh you dont know my X country community"

hazy badger
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And yes

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Top 10 italian server

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I repeat

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I don't care about what other people says

visual egret
hazy badger
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I had a player with 300 average players and i know every well the italian community

hazy badger
visual egret
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we can’t diagnose it unless you have logs

hazy badger
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I mean, can't we just check what happened before?

simple karma
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how do you run mc servers @hazy badger ?

visual egret
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send a paste with your logs

hazy badger
simple karma
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like do you use any panel

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or just plain command line

hazy badger
visual egret
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both

hazy badger
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Linux

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Ubuntu 22

hazy badger
simple karma
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panels really help to be honest

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like ptero which has network graphic

hazy badger
visual egret
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I can’t open that I’m on a phone

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send it to a paste site

simple karma
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dont run server as root

hazy badger
hazy badger
simple karma
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The proxy is running in offline mode! This is a security risk and you will NOT receive any support!

simple karma
visual egret
hazy badger
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Oh i see

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You're right

simple karma
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any plugin basically has full server access

void void
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Offline mode also makes your server a lot more susceptible to bot attacks

novel horizon
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or use docker or similar things

upbeat falconBOT
hazy badger
hazy badger
simple karma
twin lagoon
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offline mode servers lure a shitton of bot & ddos attacks

visual egret
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online mode works better than bot sentry imo

simple karma
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ofc they do

twin lagoon
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^

hazy badger
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So that wasn't a ddos attack?

simple karma
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i dont think so sir

novel horizon
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what

simple karma
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i am obsessed with panels

novel horizon
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how does online mode corresponds with panel lol

twin lagoon
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no because online mode does not need a fancy panel that serves no purpose

simple karma
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u hurt my feelings

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but i got it for free so idm

novel horizon
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wait til electroniccat arrives 👀

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he can say mean things

void void
simple karma
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o i know that guy

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he made a plugin for me once

hazy badger
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So guys, any info from the log?

simple karma
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they are reduntant or whatever the word is

novel horizon
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its just some info plugin probably

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I use Plan currently

lavish compass
lavish compass
twin lagoon
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yes

sharp spindle
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michael with his iptables

void void
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is the spawn still a hellhole?

lavish compass
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speaking of which, when is blossom going to support kotlin 1.7

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:angery:

worn ember
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what even thonk

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paper had a server?

lavish compass
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michael*

worn ember
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oh

simple karma
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k but why is oci so complex

lavish compass
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welcome to oracle

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it's not overly complicated, other clouds are quite similar

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but oracle is the worst by far

worn ember
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good rtp plugin blaze

simple karma
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i have ptsd after google cloud trial

simple karma
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i think you leaked ips

hazy badger
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Wym?

simple karma
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all player ips are visible

hazy badger
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.-.

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how can i send logs without showing ips?

worn ember
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don_gino_is_here loves his 0.2$

simple karma
hazy badger
hexed imp
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where's the option to enable double curing on villagers in paper

simple karma
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aternos has their own paste thingy that hides ips from logs

hexed imp
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they switched around the paper.yml and now i cant find the villager double curing option

simple karma
void void
simple karma
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^ that one yea

hazy badger
hazy badger
worn ember
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tbh i dont think server logs are very useful for something like this, you'd need to check network logs

daring laurel
twin lagoon
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unifiedmetrics + victoriametrics for the graphs

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loki + promtail for the logging

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grafana for visualization

daring laurel
twin lagoon
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stores the metrics

daring laurel
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oh

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so its like unifiedmetrics -> loki -> promtail -> grafana?

desert iris
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rip techno

daring laurel
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Ohh

lavish compass
#

i considered making a plugin that pushes stuff directly to loki

#

but i didnt have time

warm anchor
golden gust
#

urgh, I hate days which end in y

rare python
#

Same

warm anchor
#

@rare python at least cat didn’t say he hates any username ends in y

mild rune
#

Pretty sure he does

golden gust
#

I mean

#

idk a single person who's name ends in y that I like

warm anchor
mild rune
#

Especially those that end in ty

warm anchor
golden gust
#

||life goal: show up to papecon as paper chan with a ban hammer and chase people around||

warm anchor
#

Hell yeah papecon

golden gust
#

I can type, I swear

rare python
#

I wish we had not enabled the option to always show spoilers now.

golden gust
#

lol

warm anchor
#

We will get @static badge dress up as fur… I mean Tuinity chan

mild rune
#

I have many questions

static badge
#

w

#

e

#

e

#

e

#

b

#

t

mild rune
#

all of which I don't think I want answered

static badge
#

r

#

a

#

s

#

h

mild rune
static badge
rare python
#

What even...

golden gust
#

birb was hungry for rabbit

mild rune
#

can relate

normal frost
#

could someone tell me a rpg plugin for class skills and etc?

mild rune
#

rabbit is good

golden gust
#

run rabbit, run rabbit, run, run, run

wet storm
golden gust
#

depends

#

actually, am not sure I can do that joke

worn ember
#

you'll get paperd

golden gust
#

hot

brave mountain
golden gust
#

I mean, if we're doing that

warm anchor
warm anchor
#

I should probably restart that PepeLa

golden gust
#

lol

#

I mean, I don't try for uptime these days

#

I remember this one time my stepfather did the thing with the meter, and my desktop probs got to like 100 days or something for the first time

warm anchor
#

Yeah that machine is why I am online 24/7 here. I basically use it as discord monitor

#

100 day is impressive

#

Try windows OMEGALUL

golden gust
#

oh god

warm anchor
#

My windows machine start dying just little over 3 days

golden gust
#

I had a windows VM, and I had to restart the thing every 20 days or the thing would just grind to a halt

warm anchor
#

Yup yup

golden gust
#

I think that they eventually did fix that, but jesus fuck

mild rune
#

I think my longest uptime device is my pi sitting up near my router

warm anchor
#

I actually got a habit to restart it nowadays

mild rune
#

Otherwise everything else gets regularly reboots

warm anchor
#

Coz their dumb “shutdown”

#

Is actually not shutdown

mossy vessel
#

Why would you want a windows vm on the glorious and superior macos

golden gust
#

was years ago, and primarily served as a bridge from college, etc

#

Plus the odd "oh shit, I need windows for this"

#

think my mate ended up using it as a server for terraria or something at some point

#

was some game from that era before their linux server actually worked

mild rune
#

or be forced to like me because I BSOD if my PC sleeps

hazy badger
#

Who is this guy? ahahaha

worn ember
hazy badger
#

OOH okay

#

I tought he was a guy you knew

worn ember
#

nah

brave mountain
void void
warm anchor
quasi valley
brave mountain
#

Below

#

Left

#

Is the official launcher

warm anchor
#

Oh that’s just an icon if you click it, it’s not gonna do anything OMEGALUL

brave mountain
#

😫

warm anchor
#

Official launcher that’s just a hyperlink to open bedrock on the MS store iirc

brave mountain
#

Damn Microsoft

#

They just want you to use *Windows

#

If Java wasn't an Write once, run anywhere language they'll do the same

#

I'm using Fedora, sometimes when I switch to windows 11 I forgot I'm on windows and try to change windows with the top corner

worn ember
#

w11 is never going on any of my systems lol

weary burrow
#

hello

charred sleet
#

what’s wrong with windows 11 :(

weary burrow
#

i cri

#

My names linuxy for a reason

#

linux and mac

#

is best

worn ember
# charred sleet cry baby

taking away your choice 🙂 they're basically forcing things onto you and you can't decline it. Make it super tedious to change defaults etc. It's already a thing in W10 but its not as bad yet

visual egret
#

windows is never going to be my main system willingly

weary burrow
visual egret
weary burrow
#

nice

visual egret
#

anyone else in the uk had to buy sockets

#

like for their walls

#

because i'm getting a new room and i cba with adapters so im thinking about a usb c + 2 mains socket for my room but i simply can't find one

golden gust
#

Because it's all the same crud made in china

#

There just isn't the room to fit a proper usb-c PDU thing in there

visual egret
worn ember
#

could just get one with regular usb

visual egret
#

which looks okay but the price

worn ember
#

and then just usb to usb-c

charred sleet
#

for a socket

visual egret
#

i'm trying to futureproof for the EU standard thingy

worn ember
#

well you're buying a single unit ofc its gonna be expensive lol

charred sleet
#

oh yeah when is that in place from

visual egret
#

2024?

unkempt jackal
#

what is the EU standard

visual egret
#

iirc

worn ember
#

why are you futurproofing for the EU standard? you're not even in the EU blaze

charred sleet
#

he is british

#

lol

visual egret
charred sleet
#

uk gang

charred sleet
#

oh wait

#

yeah

#

lol

#

EU

#

rip

worn ember
#

EU != Europe

charred sleet
#

what a stupid fucking idea it was to leave

visual egret
#

agreed

worn ember
#

they been somewhat ok for forcing tech companies to be less stupid at least

charred sleet
visual egret
#

they can go wireless

#

probably wont though

charred sleet
#

they will

charred sleet
#

100%

visual egret
#

there's been a USB C iphone leak iirc

worn ember
cedar spade
#

Perhaps just get normal sockets for now, and wait for the products you want to charge to actually exist

unkempt jackal
#

fully wireless? that sounds dumb

mossy vessel
#

We all know that lighting is usb c kappapride

worn ember
#

you get like 40-50% loss with induction

golden gust
#

Oh, guess they can, but, that's chonky

worthy geode
#

Whats Apples reasoning for not using usb-c other than wanting to sell accessories?

worn ember
#

cuz its apple

visual egret
#

none

worn ember
#

they think everything they develop is better

visual egret
#

proprietary = moneh

golden gust
#

They got their connector out first, basically, and then licensing and current accessories

unkempt jackal
#

before usb c, lightning was so cool

worn ember
#

kinda hoping the forced use of usb-c doesnt hinder innovation

visual egret
unkempt jackal
#

yeah

visual egret
#

and considering that soon all new devices will have that usb c stuff, it only really makes sense to make my life somewhat easier

golden gust
#

Depends

#

Like, that'll work for power efficient tablets and phones

#

Like, iPad, android tablets

charred sleet
#

also why are the usb c cables c->c and not a->c by default

worn ember
#

i'd honstly just get usb connection points and then get a conversion cable

golden gust
#

Won't work for much outside of that

worthy geode
unkempt jackal
golden gust
#

Because a is dyjng

visual egret
charred sleet
#

i love a tho

golden gust
#

Not really, they're hitting spec limitations

unkempt jackal
#

usb a is just a bottle neck

charred sleet
#

the feeling of plugging it in the right way up first time chefskiss

worn ember
#

way more sturdy than usb-c though

worthy geode
#

c seems pretty stable to me

golden gust
#

Yea, but a has spec limitations

worn ember
#

till you bump it

golden gust
#

It's why all of the fast charging over usb a is generally proprietary

worn ember
#

its literally throw more current at it

worthy geode
#

yeah, but you need to communicate with the device about how much current

unkempt jackal
#

and that's why c to c power delivery handshaking is awesome

worn ember
#

pretty sure the device just decides how much it can draw

golden gust
#

usb c has an extra pair for communications

#

No

#

It negotiates with the controller

worthy geode
#

depends. Some standards have a bunch of the charging stuff in the plug, because otherwise the device would get too hot

golden gust
#

USB A delivers like 100ma by default or some shit

true canyon
#

They talk and agree to hug it out over some power delivery

golden gust
#

then you basically gotta ask for more

worn ember
#

USB-3 can go up to 2A

golden gust
#

USB A doesn't have the pair which is used for power delivery

#

off spec, iirc

worn ember
#

nah thats part of the spec

#

had to look into that cuz i had to power like 80 LED's over usb

worthy geode
#

oneplus proprietary charging does 6.5 A for example

golden gust
#

I don't see where you're seeing 2A for USB 3

#

oh, I guess, the rated spec is the minimum they should be able to deliver

#

looks to mostly be off spec, however

worn ember
#

oh, yeah looks like its 900mAmps

#

dont know where i got 2Amps from then

golden gust
#

like, for many years they relied going off spec for pulling more than that, and it worked, the connector is designed to support 5A

#

But, then you get into voltage stuff, many OEMs went off spec, as mentioned the oneplus thing, and then QC also added a chip which allowed the phone to talk to it

worthy geode
#

but then some cables aren't and it gets messy again

golden gust
#

But, people wanted higher voltages, so PD was made, and that requires USB-C

worn ember
#

could safefully go up to 24V i think

#

i think thats still considered safe lv

golden gust
#

well, lower is better, generally, just limits how many amps you can chunk down it

#

But, a bit beyond 24V is where it can get tingly to touch

worn ember
#

well if you have double the voltage you only need half the amps

worthy geode
#

power delivery standard goes up to 48V

golden gust
#

USB A coming in with 4mm conductors

#

2021, USB PD R 3.1

#

added 28, 36 and 48V

#

This is kinda sketchy AF though

worthy geode
#

So 240W? Time to plug a GPU into that kek

golden gust
#

48V DC is, I mean, it's still okay, but, think of all the chinesium cables lol

#

Jesus fuck, think about all the "eco friendly" cables which you gotta keep out of the sun or they literally melt away

worn ember
#

5amps thonk

unkempt jackal
#

why do we need fast charging for phones anyways

worthy geode
#

its pretty convenient

golden gust
#

well, beause people suck at keeping their phones charged, especially with how power hungry they've become and how long it's taking battery tech to improve

worn ember
#

its less efficient cuz it generates a lot more heat but yeah ig its convenient

#

i still only gotta charge my 6 year old phone once every 2 days

golden gust
#

depends on what am going

#

You see, cos am unloved like DED, unless I end up chilling in bed or something flicking through TT or something, it can generally last most of 2 days

unkempt jackal
#

I just charge my phone with a small 5 watt adapter over night and i also set it to not go over 85%

#

works out most of the time, and any time I feel I'll need more charge then I plug it in while I'm driving to get some extra

worthy geode
#

I just charge it for ~20 minutes in the morning after getting up before I leave the house, thats usually enough

golden gust
#

I mean, I generally charge overnight slowly from my laptops USB port

#

I have my quick charger near my desk for the "oh shits"

#

I have only been meaning to get a dock for the thing for years

worthy geode
#

I wonder if the 5 A / 48 V also applies for the long cables, iirc the standard allows cables up to 5m

golden gust
#

depends on the cable

unkempt jackal
#

it's just so pleasant to charge my phone. It's like feeding a dog

golden gust
#

There are methods to measure how much a cable "should" be able to take

brave mountain
#

Did someone says OnePlus? I mean the bests android phones?

golden gust
#

best

#

back in the days

worn ember
#

5-6 years ago maybe

golden gust
#

I mean, they pretty much became flagship -$#00

#

where # appears to be getting lower

#

and software is shitty

worthy geode
#

Software is alright imo. but the newer ones don't really have competitive prices anymore

golden gust
#

I mean, I've seen thread after thread of bug reports

worn ember
#

i honestly have no clue what brand i'd want when i buy a new phone

golden gust
#

LTT recently did a video of a bug where their OS will literally eat all your system storage

worn ember
#

i still have huawei with android blaze

worthy geode
#

really? only bugs I ever encountered were caused by me breaking something with root kek

brave mountain
#

For me OP still offering the best quality price

worthy geode
#

but tbh I also haven't updated in a year

#

maybe it got worse

brave mountain
#

It could

#

I like Google pixels but I hate them at the same time

worthy geode
#

I had a Nexus 5, that was great, so im open to buying another google phone at some point

brave mountain
#

Too much Factory problems

worthy geode
#

but my Oneplus 7 is still fast enough that I don't really want to upgrade soon anyways

brave mountain
#

I also still have a (damaged) nexus 5, it was pretty good

worthy geode
#

it looks a bit cheap by modern standards with the plastic back and stuff

wind geyser
#

Sony

golden gust
#

sony RIP

warm anchor
#

Remember Sony laptop?

#

Those super expensive one with metal casing

golden gust
#

Oh god, never had a metal cased one, but, we had a plastic fantastic viao

#

Thing was built like a brick shithouse though

warm anchor
#

VAIO is the name yeah but Apple basically just took over entirety of designer high end market nowadays

visual egret
#

I have a vaio laptop

golden gust
#

one day, I will spell it right

visual egret
#

the charging brick is taped together with crumbling duct tape

#

and the battery is dead

#

still performs excellent for a decade old laptop

golden gust
#

Like, it was okay of a machine, was a hand me down type of deal, we had the power connector ripped out and basically replaced with a huge ass 30 pin industrial connector my grandfather had laying around

ashen cliff
#

Very happy customer.

visual egret
#

how much did you pay?

ashen cliff
#

80€ total.

#

Do note, I'm not mad about the money, just the fact you can use the "used" category to sell items, that you know are broken and eBay will stand with you.

ashen perch
#

@cedar ether nub come online

#

@valid quest

#

i was half expecting prat to be here lmao

valid quest
#

Kek i cant rn

#

im on 2b

ashen perch
valid quest
#

2b2t

ashen perch
valid quest
ashen perch
valid quest
#

KEK

#

i was quoting fitmc

safe flame
#

While zopflipng is taking its sweet time, I think the Conquest images are already optimized, I'm getting less drastic improvements than with Faithful 32x
Yep. I'm getting 70-90% improvement on Faithful 32x.

#

usually somewhere between 5-20%

brave mountain
#

I really like xpreria design

#

But too expensive and hot

visual egret
#

that's uhhh

#

are you rich?

twin lagoon
#

no it's called having an income

visual egret
#

that's still a lot of money, no?

ashen cliff
#

It's called, still getting a good deal despite them being broken.

#

_Teaching material. kekwhyper _

visual egret
#

ah

ashen cliff
#

And possible repair opportunities.

spiral robin
#

@twin lagoon income check

ashen cliff
#

7€ in total.

mossy vessel
#

good morning aber

spiral robin
#

Hello nmf

#

How u doing lovege

past cloud
#

anyone have experience with toml?

safe flame
#

@magic river You might be interested in the results from my little test, in which I try both optipng and zopflipng, and find that combining optipng, then zopflipng, gives the best compression for Faithful 32x 1.8.9:

(all sizes in bytes)
1432196 assets-both
1434282 assets-zopflipng
2213979 assets-optipng
2972711 assets
verbal pagoda
#

Anyone ever tried to build paper 1.13.2 using "./paper j"?

magic river
#

I wonder if zopflipng is still doing other optimizations optipng doesn't or if that's just pure zopfli for the savings

safe flame
#

hold on let me send the invocations

magic river
#

btw zopfli isn't a new compression scheme so saying it's slow is fine because so is AV1 is a false comparison

ashen cliff
#

Optipng doesn't strip meta by default right?

magic river
#

zopfli is what you get when you push ancient compression tech way too far

past cloud
#

I have a config, here's a sample example:

[features]
  [features.analytics]
    enabled=true

when I call .get("features.analytics.enabled") it says that it's null.
The config is loading, i just can't get data from sections 🤷‍♂️

golden gust
#

. seperations is a bukkit concept...

#

You'd probs just get features

#

and then features.analytics

#

use debugger...

magic river
#

iirc Bukkit's setup also really hates having periods in section names, although that's yaml so not relevant to this

safe flame
# safe flame hold on let me send the invocations
cp -r assets assets-zopflipng
cp -r assets assets-optipng
cp -r assets assets-both
cd assets
find . -name '*.png' | parallel --bar zopflipng --filters=01234mep -y --iterations=10 '{}' '../assets-zopflipng/{}'
cd ../assets-optipng
find . -name '*.png' | parallel --bar optipng -o7 -zm1-9 -fix '{}'
find . -name '*.png' | parallel --bar zopflipng --filters=01234mep -y --iterations=10 '{}' '../assets-both/{}'
cd ..
du -sb asset*
#

(this takes quite a while)

#

Optimizing ./minecraft/optifine/ctm/hard_materials/hard_clay/clay_brown/Neuer Ordner/11.png
wtf? how did that get in the Conquest 1.18 pack

#
$ find Conquest/assets -type d -name 'Neuer *'
Conquest/assets/minecraft/models/item/Neuer Ordner
Conquest/assets/minecraft/textures/painting/Neuer Ordner
Conquest/assets/minecraft/textures/gui/title/background/Neuer Ordner
Conquest/assets/minecraft/textures/gui/title/background/Neuer Ordner (3)
Conquest/assets/minecraft/textures/gui/title/background/Neuer Ordner (2)
Conquest/assets/minecraft/optifine/gui/background/Neuer Ordner (3)
Conquest/assets/minecraft/optifine/gui/background/Neuer Ordner (2)
Conquest/assets/minecraft/optifine/gui/background/Neuer Ordner
Conquest/assets/minecraft/optifine/font/Neuer Ordner
Conquest/assets/minecraft/optifine/ctm/hard_materials/hard_clay/clay_brown/Neuer Ordner
#

hmmmmm

past cloud
#

Got it

magic river
#

lol you never even told us what library or language you were trying to use this nested INI abomination with

safe flame
#

^

magic river
#

TIL toml can be nested sections

past cloud
#

It's just nightconfig

#

what velocity has built in

#

turns out i actually fixed it a bit ago I just didnt regenerate my config pepederp

ashen cliff
safe flame
safe flame
#

Seems to be slightly better than optipng.

#
1432196 assets-both
1434282 assets-zopflipng
2182355 assets-oxipng
2213979 assets-optipng
2972711 assets
#

I'll probably use pngquant later, too.

safe flame
#

oxipng seems to have done a much better job with the glass textures than optipng, but somehow the output is less receptive to zopflipng????
1494449 assets-both-oxipng
conclusion: optipng then zopflipng win

#

pngquant seems to increase size considerably

#

using pngquant 16 blows the files up to 14 megs.

#

what's more, even optipng doesn't seem to help

safe flame
#

so, converted everything to qoi:
3411925 assets-qoi
decoding every qoi image (reference decoder) takes ~4.3 seconds
decoding every png image (libpng) takes ~85.5 seconds

#

which is quite the difference, and may or may not warrant the size increase

#

sizes in % of the original:

48.17% assets-both
48.24% assets-zopflipng
50.27% assets-both-oxipng
73.41% assets-oxipng
74.47% assets-optipng
114.77% assets-qoi
safe flame
daring laurel
#

oh I see

safe flame
#

anyway, sorry to ramble

next grove
#

Good morning. Does anyone happen to have Optifine HD u6 for Minecraft 1.18.2-1.19?

mild rune
#

I'm sure optifine's website does

next grove
wet storm
#

avg papermc general

limber portal
hazy badger
#

Yo guys

#

Does it makes any sense using a mob stacker plugin?

#

I have a survival server with a lot of spawners

#

And they generate a LOT of mobs

#

This is quite a normal mob farm

spare venture
#

mob stacking is fine for spawner mobs, but not for naturally spawned mobs (because then they will keep spawning and trying to fill the spawn limits)

hazy badger
#

Can i stack spawn from spawner only?

spare venture
#

im sure some mob stacking plugin has that functionality

hazy badger
#

I'm looking at this but i'm note sure

#

I suppose this is what i'm looking for

unkempt jackal
#

Yep

spiral robin
unkempt jackal
spiral robin
magic river
#

Just the base part is already an improvement over redux but it also has a zod/yup/ajv like thing for validating inputs that supports defining multiple versions of valid inputs and how to convert them to the latest format

#

Oh and a redux-persist thing that can persist different pieces of data in different places and is also how you get a recoil atom for the current URL which is automatically kept in sync via the same system

#

Luckily I'm probably starting a new project on Tuesday so perfect timing 😄

merry talon
#

I'm recoiling over how quickly frontend dev tooling moves

#

I've heard of like 3 new frameworks in the last couple days

wanton juniper
#

yo i got a qs

#

does playing on a private server ruin the same experience from playing on actual 1.18 // playing on 1.8 with via(r/b/v)

lilac moon
karmic harness
#

How come it's so hard to foward ports on Oracle Cloud

peak ginkgo
#

open the port then disable their firewall in the ui

karmic harness
#

Just use the iptables or ufw?

fallen grotto
#

ufw doesn't work on oracle

#

i used firewalld

#

but iptables should work

#

i mean i'm pretty sure ufw doesn't work, not 100%

ashen cliff
#

They use iptables by default, if you install Ubuntu.

lilac moon
#

I just use iptables command

#

Since I don't wanna worry about installing something extra on too

merry talon
#

I mean the machine prob isn't gonna have a firewall configured unless you did it

ashen cliff
#

It does.

merry talon
#

make sure the upstream one is open through their panel

#

oh

ashen cliff
#

Very strict, so you have to open everything yourself.
Since they probably don't want to deal with people port scanning.

merry talon
#

Every time I open up a project the entire ecosystem has changed

#

it's crazy

ashen cliff
ashen cliff
#

Yeah bro. How to we charge a person more, let's just add another partition and call it a new drive.

worn ember
#

oh its just a partition lmfao

void void
#

can someone who speaks german explain how to set up an anti x ray plugin?

crystal lilyBOT
ashen cliff
#

I expected them to do something like raid 0 for the data partition and raid 1 for mysql.
But they just did raid 1 for both, so, no idea why it's even split.

worn ember
#

so you dont put your junk on the amazing sql partition

merry talon
#

different fs maybe?

ashen cliff
#

Both ext4. Same settings.

worn ember
#

doubt it

merry talon
#

e.g. xfs

#

welp

ashen cliff
#

And now, they will probably have to resize it... so that will be fun, since the root partition needs more space due to actual data being stored there. kekwhyper

worn ember
#

can you not easily resize ext4?

#

i know its no big deal with NTFS but thats all i know kek

ashen cliff
#

Yes and no. It's not just the partition, but also the raid volume.

worn ember
#

oh right

ashen cliff
#

Oh? On NTFS it's a pain as well.
Making it smaller takes time, due to files being moved and even better, when it just can't fit the files into sectors, so it just breaks and gets stuck forever.

worn ember
void void
warm anchor
#

Have you try reading the page

jovial plover
#

i love windows xp setup

void void
#

jes but i dont realy understand it 😕

warm anchor
#

Tell us which part you do not understand

merry talon
#

zfs is love

#

zfs is life

jovial plover
#

windows xp my beloved

void void
jovial plover
#

do you still provide the support 21 years later microsoft :hm:

#

wait WAT

#

you can just install a whole network

stuck lava
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gotta install network

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yea

jovial plover
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just installing the whole network

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