hm
#general
robust nova
spice plinth
All hail MD5
Hallowed be thy checksum
slender surge
- Plugins aren't updated for 1.19 yet
- Even after the build is released, it's a bloody stupid idea to use them on live/production servers. You shouldn't use experimental builds on proper servers
Come back in a week, even if it releases in a day
grim island
I swear if paper mods add verification bot where you explicitly have to agree to message that says that 1.19 comes eventually™ people still be reacting ✅ and then proceed to general and ask WHEN™?!
lapis condor
xd
spice plinth
100%, but it would at least stop a few and it's less fun as you can't troll them
slender surge
_All hail MD5_
Hallowed be thy checksum
"No, I will wait until release date before I share my 1.19 source code. I refuse to provide it earlier than that so Paper can prepare" - MD_5, probably
abstract aspen
I think I might compile the 1.19 branch and use it for a LAN server this weekend maybe I can report a few bugs :p
spice plinth
"No, I will wait until release date before I share my 1.19 source code. I refuse...
Definitely - because that way he can always say 'Well Spigot released same day, cant say that for paper'
He has all the snapshot releases to prep against
Paper has to cram at the last minute 😂
slender surge
yep
spice plinth
Definitely solid efforts though, impressive to see the 900+ patches go in so fast
limber knotBOT
<3 for paper devs
slender surge
its slow as shit without paper
im suprised spigot is still a thing and ppl havent gone upstream
twin lagoon
downstream
spice plinth
Lol it's significantly more resource intensive
slender surge
downstream
confusing
spice plinth
I now realise I didn't put my discord ID in my contribution🤦
slender surge
I meant im suprised spigot is still relied on
and paper havent gone upstream from it
twin lagoon
what
slender surge
hard fork when?
languid orbit
kennytv live when ?
gentle sun
face it: paper is nothing without md_5
spice plinth
I mean, that's literally true - it's a fork of spigot
However it only exists as a thing because
a) raw spigot is resource intensive
b) md_5 doesn't like to share his toys lol
void void
Khi nào mới có bản update 1.19
abstract aspen
kennytv live when ?
regal mural
on the 1.19 server, an op gave me a warden spawn egg so i made a warden spawner to get catalysts and now spawn is covered in sculk
vestal roost
Sculk vs Mending Hoe, who will win?
spice plinth
Also, looks like paper killed Kenny
abstract parrot
eager orbit
ngl, Mojang really shouldn’t have made skulk shriekers be able activate from redstone
Imagine your friends put a looping skulk shrieker inside the walls of your house
regal mural
only natural shriekers spawn wardens
vestal roost
Unless you don't remove the natural ones
regal mural
they still give darkness and an annoying noise tho iirc
vestal roost
they still give darkness and an annoying noise tho iirc
i love caves and cliffs part 3!! real!!
||tbf, the team has gotten such high expectations from 1.16 they deserve a break imo||
regal mural
TRUE
spice plinth
Literally just sat here waiting for frogs xD
regal mural
people act like its such big news that 1.19 is mostly sculk even though the sculk is literally a delayed update of caves and cliffs
abstract aspen
Also, looks like paper killed Kenny
death by a thousand cuts?
spice plinth
death by a thousand cuts?
Death by a thousand patches
molten egret
I mean, that's literally true - it's a fork of spigot
However it only exists as ...
I mean ofc he doesn’t he is already being replaced by Sha even Minecraft resource packs don’t use him anymore
vestal roost
people act like its such big news that 1.19 is mostly sculk even though the scul...
I'm just happy 1.19 is not a major update lmao, I won't have to worry about waiting for client mods and server utility updates
regal mural
true
spice plinth
Most plugins were like hmm, 10 more lines of config for new blocks, 1.19 done
vestal roost
1.16 broke me 😭
vestal roost
Most plugins were like _hmm, 10 more lines of config for new blocks, 1.19 done_
yes
enum updates moment
spice plinth
Lol yup
hazy trail
I wrote some code to help finish upgrading paper mc to 1.19
beep boop £\£~€££_*|€~£|£\€! Beep boop
&-!/&/!-&|’jej’sksxn
abstract aspen
I might only need to update 1 line of code in my plugins
blazing imp
Hey, I’ve been having trouble with a server I have, does anyone know servers that well
vestal roost
spigot isn't going away soon, it's pretty integral to the server community
meager otter
Unless you don't remove the natural ones
You can still spawn new one by killing mobs next to skull
abstract aspen
If paper gets Hangar up and running and hard fork I reckon spigot will die out
spice plinth
Hopefully, then paper can be developed in a less stressful/crammy way xD
meager otter
Spigot shouldn't be used nowdays when there is paper
vestal roost
You can still spawn new one by killing mobs next to skull
I do love that they spread due to mob deaths, but that's such a difficult task
regal mural
What is Hangar
spice plinth
Kinda wish I could help but I am a frontend dev and Java is scary
regal mural
Java is awful
spice plinth
It's not awful, just scary
regal mural
It's not scary, it's just awful
vestal roost
Java is awful
that's what makes it fun :troll:
meager otter
I hope paper will be here within 24h
regal mural
that's what makes it fun :troll:
ok masochist
abstract aspen
What is Hangar
A plugin website that doesn't discriminate
regal mural
A plugin website that doesn't discriminate
wdym
spice plinth
You have plugin? Put on hangar, done
abstract aspen
on Spigots site you can only post spigot/bungee plugins
vestal roost
ok masochist
"i swear! it was working before!"
abstract aspen
on Hangar you'll be able to post whatever you want
regal mural
I see
true canyon
Frogs can make the right decision when presented with information.
regal mural
sounds easy to find plugins then
abstract aspen
twin lagoon
@true canyon
true canyon
I'd like to respectfully ask that users don't troll the folks coming here asking for 1.19 or its status. It's unnecessary and unhelpful.
@twin lagoon
twin lagoon
🥺
vestal roost
I'd like to respectfully ask that users don't troll the folks coming here asking...
^
regal mural
counterargument: people with more than 2 braincells can look around for 0.2 nanoseconds to see the channel labeled "1.19" with a ❗
lilac moon
true canyon
counterargument: people with more than 2 braincells can look around for 0.2 nano...
Plenty of people aren't familiar with how discord works. Plenty of folks joining here are kids who are used to instant gratification and having to click anywhere is too slow. Plenty of folks are overtired and don't notice things. Let's not treat them poorly just for a bad first step. 🙂
lilac moon
emote is too hard to see on oled black background
spice plinth
Booo but also fair enough 😂
regal mural
Plenty of people aren't familiar with how discord works. Plenty of folks joining...
fair enough
worthy geode
<:this:463843257240125460> emote is too hard to see on oled black background
in unmodified discord its fine 🤷
vestal roost
counterargument: people with more than 2 braincells can look around for 0.2 nano...
in my case, people continuously ask for 1.19 updates on our smp server. sometimes the easiest thing is to ask those who are knowledgeable.
so yeah, i agree with not trolling ppl lmao
lilac moon
in unmodified discord its fine 🤷
I'm using the built in oled black mode on android so its not even modded
spice plinth
Black on black = ghostmoji
vestal roost
in unmodified discord its fine 🤷
discord mobile has black theme tho
true canyon
🕷️ is hard on default dark
worthy geode
is that a new thing?
lilac moon
oh yeah iOS has it too on testflight apparently but the background isnt black
vestal roost
no
lilac moon
Its been on android since like forever
true canyon
No, it's an old thing that will probably die with the new android client.
vestal roost
it's been like idk, a year or 2
spice plinth
Been around for at least a couple years
lilac moon
I doubt it'll die since they added it to iOS
spice plinth
It saves quite a bit of battery ngl xD
lilac moon
Its just really crappy right now in the ios beta
true canyon
Oh that's good news for those who use it.
worthy geode
I have the new client and its not there, so I thought its a new feature that I don't have yet
vestal roost
i love discord!! i love it logging every message i have without encryption!!
lilac moon
Where do you get the new client
abstract aspen
Didn't staff here just encourage us the other day to tell people wrong/random dates/eta's?
lilac moon
I think they might add it after the fact to the new client, it's the same client as iOS right (react native)?
abstract aspen
I mean I get it but it's weird
spice plinth
The official ETA is 'Somewhere between 20 minutes and 20 years' afaik
true canyon
i love discord!! i love it logging every message i have without encryption!!
At least it's encrypted in sending/receiving to discord. Imagine using pre-ssl IRC where you send your password plaintext.
golden gust
idk anybody that encouraged that, ^
worthy geode
also lovely how changing the theme on the mobile app changes it in real-time on the PC client as well, lol
lilac moon
True
spice plinth
also lovely how changing the theme on the mobile app changes it in real-time on ...
accidentally enables light theme
is blind
limber knotBOT
msg NickServ identify Ddjiwdai29sdJDW
lilac moon
lmao
vestal roost
At least it's encrypted in sending/receiving to discord. Imagine using pre-ssl I...
yeah but it's sadge moment the mod team could just have access to all of our messages
lilac moon
was that intentional
slender surge
msg NickServ identify Ddjiwdai29sdJDW
nice try
void void
nice one cat
lilac moon
OK good
spice plinth
Lol
vestal roost
but discord is accessible and free so
true canyon
All I see is *****************
slender surge
vestal roost
[REDACTED] [EXPUNGED]
worthy geode
at least it got a number!
true canyon
It was a different time.
lilac moon
It doesn't show a date unfortunately
spice plinth
Lol
true canyon
My bank limited you to alphanumeric plus a selection of six special characters, maximum of 6 characters, well into the 2010s
slender surge
BitWarden supremacy
lilac moon
I have my own vaultwarden server self hosted :)
spice plinth
My favourite password issue was the 'create password' field allowing ! But the sign in page not allowing it
Like 'How tf do I log in then?'
slender surge
spice plinth
Heh
sleek tree
👀
slender surge
go away @sleek tree
spice plinth
I see paper kind of like the XKCD standards comic 🤣
true canyon
I love sites that accept any length password but cut it to a certain length internally
sleek tree
go away <@348519271460110338>
No. Stop following me everywhere
spice plinth
lilac moon
I see paper kind of like the XKCD standards comic 🤣
I mean not really
sleek tree
I love sites that accept any length password but cut it to a certain length inte...
not as bad as the uni accomidation site I signed into
It holds my bank info & address yk etc etc
**The site said "maximum length of 10 characters for your password" **
😑
I was pissed.
lilac moon
spigot and bukkit are both not great
spice plinth
I love sites that accept any length password but cut it to a certain length inte...
It's great when you don't notice and keep resetting your password
sleek tree
**not as bad as the uni accomidation site I signed into**
It holds my bank info ...
Not to mention exposing internal errors when the search bar didn't work.
spice plinth
spigot and bukkit are both not great
Exactly - so make a new version that fixes the issues and solves everyone's needs!
Lol
lilac moon
Yep but without the competing standards part
spice plinth
I mean, it's based on spigot so it's at least similar lol
lilac moon
Just look at almost anything in Linux
spice plinth
Don't get me started on linux..... Lol
sleek tree
Windows simp?
slender surge
:clap: paper :clap: hard :clap: fork :clap: of :clap: bukkit :clap: when :clap:
sleek tree
:clap: paper :clap: hard :clap: fork :clap: of :clap: bukkit :clap: when :clap:
Me who's testing purpur rn
slender surge
i dont see the point of purpur if u aint running a 100000 player server
spice plinth
Pretty sure the only issue is licencing - they'd have to write it from scratch to make paper spigot-free
sleek tree
i dont see the point of purpur if u aint running a 100000 player server
Atm neither do I
twin lagoon
i dont see the point of purpur if u aint running a 100000 player server
people who run 10000 player servers aren't running purpur
sleek tree
they aren't running
lilac moon
I almost wanna try making a mc server in rust, maybe a limbo one
radiant mantle
hola soy dora
sleek tree
people who run 10000 player servers aren't running purpur
Michael is there anywhere where you aren't in?
Ah wait nvm I only share 3 servers with you
spice plinth
You can make fun of everything
The people that know something the best make the most fun of it because they know the quirks and foibles
twin lagoon
i am anywhere where it's worth spending my time on
mental meadow
like here with us <3
lilac moon
The people that know something the best make the most fun of it because they kno...
Yeah that's why I make fun of Linux hehe
radiant mantle
if i add a paper plugin, do other users need to have the plugin installed? (like forge servers)
mental meadow
17 shared servers oof
sleek tree
That Dino dude is following me everywhere 💀
twin lagoon
17 shared servers oof
there you go
sleek tree
Oh lord
twin lagoon
still rookie numbers
radiant mantle
It's all server side
alr bet
viral hornet
there you go
23 🥺
twin lagoon
i share a shitton with eternity surprisingly
mental meadow
I'm also not in too many servers to be fair
mental meadow
26 with Eternity nice
sleek tree
I’ll be telling someone “I’m coding leave me alone” they’ll screenshot my status and go “1:00:00 idling oh really?”
lilac moon
I never use rich presence
sleek tree
You live in the shadows?
sleek tree
only 3 shared servers
Wait till you’re in SysCraft etc haahha
slender surge
I wish there was a way to find out who you share servers with
Instead of what servers you share with who
I bet theres one person who has all the same interests as me who i've never met
lilac moon
I probably only have one mutual server with most people here
mental meadow
@twin lagoon I finally know what you look like
waxen panther
Imagine not talking to Michael daily
mental meadow
how accurate
sleek tree
Agagagaga
twin lagoon
how accurate
top 2nd
sleek tree
DALL-E is good
spice plinth
Yeah that's why I make fun of Linux hehe
And me JavaScript🤣
slender surge
I probably only have one mutual server with most people here
we have 2 😉
viral hornet
Imagine not talking to Michael daily
imagine being this blessed
sleek tree
I share more servers with python devs
slender surge
its only mc stuff
twin lagoon
imagine being this blessed
🥺
lilac moon
I'm only in spigotmc because of the trivia bot they have
slender surge
i juss left
sleek tree
Don’t blame you
quiet mesa
I'm only in spigotmc because of the trivia bot they have
really? xd
abstract aspen
i dont see the point of purpur if u aint running a 100000 player server
I mainly use it for all the customisation
rare python
Update paper-api and dev-bundle already. :/
worthy geode
can't you just build paper and install both locally?
rare python
- I don't know how to do that.
- That is inconvenient.
lilac moon
really? xd
yep
junior ginkgo
When 1.19?
snow iron
1.19
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
blazing imp
full rune
I'm only in spigotmc because of the trivia bot they have
same
crystal saddle
No stream today?
dim thistle
lapis pine
so I'm setting up server role permissions for the first time, anyone have any general guidelines to save myself pain later? for example, should I set all admin-ish permissions explicitly false in the default/player group, or can I assume they'll be considered missing unless granted and then only grant them in the admin group?
crystal saddle
I know Kenny streamed for 12 hours yesterday so if this is usually when he streams I don't blame him for not doing so
warm anchor
Sorry for the inconvenience @crystal saddle I've escalated your service request to my manager. You will hear back from him shortly. Thank you for choosing PaperMC
crystal saddle
Service request? 🤣
warm anchor
signal harbor
why was i banned from the anarchy server
i was placing mob spawners
and they banned me
warm anchor
Thanks for identify yourself on Discord 
molten egret
Paper 1.19 source code leak!!!!
class paper{
public static void main(String[] args){
try{
System.out.println("Downloading mojasng shit");
Thread.sleep(2000);
System.out.println("Patching mojasng shit");
Thread.sleep(1391);
System.out.println("Starting org.bukkit.Main.main");
System.out.println("Loading world world");
Thread.sleep(1002);
System.out.println("unkown block: minecraft:air");
Thread.sleep(10000);
System.out.println("exception in thread main java.lang.Exception \n at org.bukkit.idek
}
catch (Throwable e){}
}
}```How could code from an open source project leak?
molten egret
How could code from an open source project leak?
no this is very important leak
they have been keeping it a sectry
lament patio
Multiply all sleeps by 10 to get spigot
rare python
frank otter
I mean if it errors out faster then it's optimised right?
rare python
Sure...
frank otter
no point wasting time if you can cut loading times by erroring out
molten egret
I'm writing all of this in nano btw lol
rare python
Why would you do that to yourself.
molten egret
oki new
upbeat falconBOT
oki new
paper.java by @molten egret: https://paste.gg/27b89daa1d2a4ba689f58180bc2c7fb9
molten egret
lol
molten egret
wait
void void
that's going to shit itself if you have no args
molten egret
yeah
void void
living up to your nickname
mossy plinth
Does anyone know how to completely disable the coordinates in the game (so that people with a minimap can not find out the coordinates)
rare python
I think you forgot to add the word "worst" after the "1" in your name.
rare python
Does anyone know how to completely disable the coordinates in the game (so that ...
You can't, the client needs to know where in the world it is in order to do anything.
void void
there are some obfuscator plugins, but they're defeatable
golden gust
idk if anybody ever cared to bother with that though
like, literally all you can do is offset 0,0
frank otter
hey I can compile java on android with termux, I didn't know that
mossy plinth
there are some obfuscator plugins, but they're defeatable
Which ones?
slender surge
best you could do is find something which scambles that shit
China do that to their real GPS coordinates
molten egret
oki fixed
void void
I WANT TO HAVE PAPER 1.19
upbeat falconBOT
oki fixed
paper.java by @molten egret: https://paste.gg/9535764625774a238a92d02055aa3733
slender surge
minecraft irl?
rare python
The most you could do to hide coordinates is offset everything you send to the client by X amount, but you have to use the same offset otherwise this are not gonna work properly.
void void
Which ones?
ХОРОШ
slender surge
I WANT TO HAVE PAPER 1.19
i want world peace
nobody asked
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
signal harbor
Thanks for identify yourself on Discord <a:Happy:395314894364213248>
was there rules
i thought it was anarchy
molten egret
i thought it was anarchy
it's for testing
signal harbor
it's for testing
i was seeing if a big amount of spawners will cause a bug
molten egret
i was seeing if a big amount of spawners will cause a bug
ehhh
limber knotBOT
no
molten egret
why do I see the trans rights things in peoples statuses
fluid sun
cause it is smth called
limber knotBOT
do you have a problem with that?
worthy geode
why not?
molten egret
why trans in particular
quick halo
Pride year
quick halo
Pride 24/7/365
mental meadow
yes
molten egret
24/7/52
limber knotBOT
rainbows are the future
fluid sun
rainbows are the future
facts
slender surge
1 year is acc 365.25 days
so you're allowed to be homophobic for a quarter of a day per year 😉
frank otter
isn't it .24
quick halo
Something about leap seconds
frank otter
hence no leap days on **00 years unless the ** is over four or something
limber knotBOT
it's 365.2422 days
frank otter
oh come on formatting
fluid sun
only 52 weeks in a year
to be more accurate about 52,1429 weeks
viral shore
I see they're working hard on it but is there any specific date 1.19 paper is supposed to release?
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
quick halo
Soon
limber knotBOT
2 days ago
quick halo
'Are we there yet'
viral shore
LETS GOOOO
vast wedge
Ok
fluid sun
bruh
limber knotBOT
step one: don't be in russia
spice ether
🤣
limber knotBOT
step two: profit
mental meadow
phoenix will fly you out
fluid sun
step three: get rich
limber knotBOT
sure ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fluid sun
step four: become the richest human being
slender surge
slava ukraini
true canyon
Please don't
fluid sun
step five: become the richest being in existence.
quick halo
Esper mask IPs by default?
twin lagoon
molten egret
Arl so there is no particular reason for trans rights as opposed to putting lgbtq+ rights?
void void
Esper mask IPs by default?
don't think so
mental meadow
lol cloudflare is like "we are the internet"
The domain provided isn’t registered on the Internet. This tool only works with active Cloudflare domains.
slender surge
trans is prob the most under-threat letter in LGBT+ right now
slender surge
so why not
twin lagoon
human rights, trans rights, lgbtq+ rights
no need to ask 5 million questions about why x rights specifically, there's support needed for all of em
mental meadow
trans people face the biggest threat right now across the globe, so it's important to mention them specifically
molten egret
trans is prob the most under-threat letter in LGBT+ right now
Ah I see
limber knotBOT
I feel like the q vs + is a way bigger discussion point lol
mental meadow
I think I forgot my CF account smh
slender surge
I feel like the q vs + is a way bigger discussion point lol
i sometimes say lgbtq+ too
its just how much i can be bothered to type
technically L+ works? 🙂
or just +
limber knotBOT
technically "human rights" works but... points at everything
worthy geode
* and insert any letter
slender surge
lol
true canyon
lgbtq+ means lgbt and 1 to infinite q
molten egret
Wah
lavish compass
Similar to Kitchen Nightmares, there should be a Programming Nightmare
limber knotBOT
should be .* then...
mental meadow
I've tried generating a picture for that earlier with DallE but everything sucked
molten egret
Similar to Kitchen Nightmares, there should be a Programming Nightmare
cough the tabs in bootleg paper cough
lavish compass
no, it has to be a tv show
vagrant marlin
Similar to Kitchen Nightmares, there should be a Programming Nightmare
mc-market: the tv show
would richard stallman be the gordon of that show?
void void
"Where's the GPL"
lavish compass
"Where's the Mutex"
void void
trans is prob the most under-threat letter in LGBT+ right now
YEAH
true canyon
"why are my actions having consequences and now I'm removed from the show?"
mental meadow
today I'm gonna show you how you can create this beautiful plugin at home, simply using java and the right technique
vagrant marlin
programming nightmare: season 1 episode 1
MD_5 and SpigotMC
faint canopy
< 
slender surge
today I'm gonna show you how you can create this beautiful plugin at home, simpl...
I hate java
it hurts my head
mental meadow
everyone does
slender surge
OOP and me dont mix
limber knotBOT
I mean...
lavish compass
>
vagrant marlin
java for a video game 😃 😃
slender surge
<:ubuntu:706925335085580318> < <:linux_mint:706925334943236126>
true
slender surge
<:debian:706925334645178369> > <:ubuntu:706925335085580318>
false
worthy geode
I like OOP, but Java is sometimes questionable
slender surge
I like python's oop
Just enough to not be painful
lavish compass
Python is pain in every way possible
vagrant marlin
print(1+1)
lavish compass
Horrible performance, questionable syntax, True
vagrant marlin
i am good at python
slender surge
Why?
i prefer ubuntu to flat debian, server wise
and i think the same is true for desktop
mental meadow
debian over ubuntu only if you don't need software from the last 5 years lol
vagrant marlin
debian for server superiority
frank otter
I appreciate the existence of python for a scripting language for quick hacky things
because I'm not writing in bash.
limber knotBOT
just use perl
slender surge
rip CentOS
limber knotBOT
runs
distant surge
Jeez, rude dude dosen’t see how mutch work is already put in lol 
lavish compass
I prefer a stable and not bloated server
worthy geode
but at least "please". Even with two !
lavish compass
I mainly run containers anyways, so it doesn't really matter
mental meadow
that's too smart
vagrant marlin
why isnt 1.19 out already?? spigot is already out!! its not like spigot has had a year to prep for the update 🙄 🙄
slender surge
Jeez, rude dude dosen’t see how mutch work is already put in lol <:emoj_pepederp...
What is the rush? It's not gonna be stable for ages + most plugins wont support it
slender surge
if you run an experimental build, you are dumb
vagrant marlin
so close to
distant surge
What is the rush? It's not gonna be stable for ages + most plugins wont support ...
Yeah, i know, not my request
lavish compass
I should try our Fedora server some day
true canyon
so close to
Hugging you
slender surge
Yeah, i know, not my request
yah ik
mental meadow
m'server
warm anchor
so close to
vagrant marlin
I should try our Fedora server some day
fedora is nice
frank otter
wait Fedora has a server?
lavish compass
yes
void void
well yes
slender surge
redhat ftw /s
vagrant marlin
Hugging you
damn, so close to hugging me but not close enough
void void
just don't install a de
slender surge
screw redhat, they killed centos
lavish compass
fedora is redhat though
frank otter
one day I need to find a reasonable server OS, I don't think Arch is sustainable
warm anchor
lavish compass
it's stable and got updated packages
slender surge
one day I need to find a reasonable server OS, I don't think Arch is sustainable
ubuntu
im sorry but its true
frank otter
I just couldn't install Ubuntu so did Arch instead, and now I'm stuck with it
mental meadow
lol
slender surge
theres a reason ppl use it
frank otter
couldn't figure out the weird tui Ubuntu server installer
lavish compass
Arch for a server 
mental meadow
arch is not sustainable for a server and other groundbreaking revelations
slender surge
couldn't figure out the weird tui Ubuntu server installer
uh what
mental meadow
(altough my servers runs arch, but that's a different story)
slender surge
you didnt get past the installer? xD
lavish compass
I would just recommend Debian really
slender surge
just space to select a tickbox, enter to proceed, arrow keys
lavish compass
Ubuntu is bloated and just eeeee imo
slender surge
server aint
frank otter
Arch for a server <:KEKW:923295993729011812>
alright its update bingo time, whenever someone mentions an arch server I have to update it and see if it boots
worthy geode
Ubuntu server is fine
lavish compass
snapd would like to visit your door
void void
pretty sure it's installed by default
slender surge
just uninstall it then
lavish compass
I'm pretty sure it is
slender surge
i mean its not gonna tank ur performance
limber knotBOT
snap is just poor man's docker change my mind
frank otter
oh screw me it wants to update 250 packages
velvet garden
gotta love windows
frank otter
this will break I can feel it
mental meadow
snap is just poor man's docker change my mind
true I don't understand why people use your plugin either
limber knotBOT
:thonkeng:
mental meadow
:p
limber knotBOT
I mean I don't know it either, I don't use it xD
slender surge
Ways I have broken my production servers:
- Moved /bin to /lib
- Wiped /etc/fstab
- Wiped /boot, had to boot into recovery and steal kernel files from another server
- Wiped the network config
- Locked out of SSH
- chmod'd the entire drive
- Hard drive corrupted (raid 1 saved me)
worthy geode
gotta love windows
you can deactivate that in the task scheduler btw
limber knotBOT
runs
orchid rivet
Because it is no longer live
spice ether
Ways I have broken my production servers:
- Moved /bin to /lib
- Wiped /etc/fsta...
What the heck haven't done any of those in 10 years using Linux 🤣
spice ether
Ouch
slender surge
I have, legitimately, no idea how fstab got wiped
And boot I kinda know, I was clearing it up cos it was 100% full, but I specifically purposefully didnt touch the latest kernel, nor the second latest kernel. Rebooted and they were gone, fstab too
Oh I also once moved / to /home
That was a mess
spice ether
sudo apt --purge autoremove ....
slender surge
I missed a "." on a "./"
slender surge
sudo apt --purge autoremove ....
you cant when /boot is full
frank otter
I think the most interesting way I've ever broken a Linux install is I aborted an update, and it had just removed the old kernel without properly like placing the new one
slender surge
it wont run
spice ether
Ooo
frank otter
so when I rebooted I had no kernel to run on
limber knotBOT
I once had to hack back into a server of mine because I broke my ssh login 👀
slender surge
Ooo
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels
"Oops, Removed All Kernels!"
limber knotBOT
had a badly formatted authenticated keys file or something
learned that day to a) always test logging in with a new ssh session and b) not give external programms access to the .ssh dir 👀
dapper pumice
Ways I have broken my production servers:
- Moved /bin to /lib
- Wiped /etc/fsta...
Had only a SSH lockout in past 15 years and had to request serial console XD (ok had few hdd corruptions)
...how on earth did you do that all 😹
rare python
apt is the enemy
slender surge
my ssh key has a passphrase, which is really annoying for sftp, but im too lazy to change it on all servers
rare python
yay best package manager
frank otter
OK the update finished so now we get to try to reboot
slender surge
Had only a SSH lockout in past 15 years and had to request serial console XD (ok...
i've prob done more than that. thats just the biggest fuck ups
that spring to mind
limber knotBOT
just use an ssh client that automatically locks you into an sftp browser when you connect 
dapper pumice
That's masochistic
slender surge
over ~6 years
rare python
My server currently uses Ubuntu Server, but once we move to a new host, we will probably switch to Arch Linux.
frank otter
arch isn't good for servers I think
rare python
arch isn't good for servers I think
Source?
frank otter
I'm trying to switch in the other direction lol
slender surge
for 6 years, one of our servers didnt have swap. we just assumed it would stock from the dedi host and never checked
frank otter
Source?
just experience. I've used it for a while and it always always breaks on updates
frank otter
ye same but when I try to update the system itself everything goes to garbage
rare python
I use Arch on my desktop and I have never had an issue that was not caused by me being an idiot.
frank otter
like my own pc is fine but the server is just completely screwed
dapper pumice
My server currently uses Ubuntu Server, but once we move to a new host, we will ...
Why not debian? Just curious about that move
frank otter
I don't get it. How can I use arch perfectly myself but then the machine I do even less on and then leave unnatended screws itself over? mysteries of arch.
rare python
Why not debian? Just curious about that move
I use Arch personally, its what i'm used to. Mostly a personal preference thing.
slender surge
Hands up if you've "Downloaded More Ram" by mounting google drive as swap space
void void
Ways I have broken my production servers:
- Moved /bin to /lib
- Wiped /etc/fsta...
Recently started hosting my stuff with docker & rancher, haven't done any of these so far
slender surge
I've never fucked up the same way twice
fallow gyro
Why do I play minecraft for 3months then after 6months I get a craving and the cycle repeats
rare python
Although at some point I need to come up with a less scuffed backup solution.
frank otter
at some point I need to come up with a backup solution
rare python
Currenty it makes daily backups with borg, which my computer will regularly download with rsync
frank otter
what's a borg
rare python
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
warm anchor
!kick @void void asking ETA multiple times within will not speed up the process. Come back when you are able to wait patiently
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked eqries#9171 (asking ETA multiple times within will not speed up the process. Come back when you are able to wait patiently) [1 total infraction] -- EterNity#0001.
queen swift
Is someone streaming the making of paper 1.19 rn?
void void
https://www.borgbackup.org/
I love borg
warm anchor
read the reason I gave
rare python
🤔
warm anchor
if you actually read it, it will tell you what it means
void void
I love borg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww
WE ARE THE BORG
We use borg at work
For a backup every 3 hours of every system
rare python
Resistance is futile
warm anchor
Is someone streaming the making of paper 1.19 rn?
not right now. Keep it in mind it's weekday still and people have things to do 
wicked tartan
im morbing rn
queen swift
Yeah I know, was just the curiosity 
wicked tartan
who else likes morbius
sullen grove
not right now. Keep it in mind it's weekday still and people have things to do <...
Still questioning it isnt a reason to respond like that 🙂 Not everyone is asking for an eta remember. He or she just wanted to see the programming stream!
sullen grove
Is someone streaming the making of paper 1.19 rn?
Im looking back on twitch what kennytv build. Very interesting! 😄
warm anchor
we will just glue kneny to his chair
slender surge
we will just glue kneny to his chair <:happy:395927628227543041>
standing desk
muhahaha
warm anchor
oh yeah hes got that going
queen swift
Im looking back on twitch what kennytv build. Very interesting! 😄
I will do it too, but I watch the whole 12h stream yesterday haha
slender surge
we need one of those proximity shock collars
spice plinth
standing desk
It's a great idea, my back will never forgive me for ~12 years of sitting in front of a computer xD
frank otter
you want to put kneny in a collar?
rare python
we will just glue kneny to his chair <:happy:395927628227543041>
Good idea.
rose girder
daring hare
I have a server with over 600 players (daily) and now no one can join the server, cuz paper isnt 1.19
mental meadow
cool
balmy whale
хахаахаха
mental meadow
!kick @balmy whale Troll somewhere else
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked Seymour#6003 (Troll somewhere else) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
slender surge
I have a server with over 600 players (daily) and now no one can join the server...
You're a pretty shitty server owner if you wanna rush into an experimental, unstable paper build
spice plinth
Or they're using geyser and bedrock auto updated
true canyon
You're a pretty shitty server owner if you wanna rush into an experimental, unst...
There is no need to be so aggressively rude.
mental meadow
If you have 600 players daily you can surely afford to pay someone to update
coral comet
I have a server with over 600 players (daily) and now no one can join the server...
Why not just keep it on 1.18.2 until paper updates?
slender surge
pretty sure ViaVersion has updated already
coral comet
^
worthy geode
you could also just install ViaVersion.
Or tell them to downgrade their client, its not hard
rare python
ViaVersion is bloat
coral comet
ViaVersion is bloat
It works.
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
void void
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!
void void
Wait is there an eta?
void void
If you want updates, follow <#979403214610890792>
Thanks! :)
rare python
ViaVersion is bloat, people should just use the correct version.
meager otter
Some sort of trello would be cool as an ETA
coral comet
Peter 🤦
slender surge
Some sort of trello would be cool as an ETA
they legit live stream developing it
golden gust
We've literally already got an issue tracker
daring hare
If you have 600 players daily you can surely afford to pay someone to update
This is a good idea, but I guess it's a bit late cuz the paper team will be done soon?
slender surge
You can count the days they're had on one hand
Compared to spigot, who had months of snapshots
coral comet
Peter viaversion is good for most servers as a lot of old servers like to stay on older versions, like hypixel.
Even though they dont use "viaversion"
meager otter
they legit live stream developing it
Yeah but that does not tell what they have to do before release
rare python
Peter viaversion is good for most servers as a lot of old servers like to stay o...
They should stop using prehistoric versions of the game.
mental meadow
This is a good idea, but I guess it's a bit late cuz the paper team will be done...
Well I don't know, if you earn your money by relying on people who work on a project in their free time you have those issues^^
golden gust
We literally have a 1.19 tracking issue.
slender surge
They don't know everythign that needs doing. They need to actually find the issues before they fix them
mental meadow
spice plinth
They should stop using prehistoric versions of the game. <:kekw:6740936819633029...
At the risk of breaking a world many years old?
meager otter
It didn't change in 3 days
golden gust
It's not something we're super anal about maintaining, people would sooner actually work on stuff rather than spending their time dealing with too much meta
mental meadow
It didn't change in 3 days
rare python
At the risk of breaking a world many years old?
You can update worlds? And backups exist?
coral comet
They should stop using prehistoric versions of the game. <:kekw:6740936819633029...
Well it doesnt seem to be too much of an issue for people to use "prehistoric" versions as most hypixel games are 1.7/1.8 and its the most popular server.
slender surge
At any rate, like has been said before, when it comes out doesn't matter. If you're a responsible server owner you'll wait a few weeks for bugs to be reported and it to be stable
slender surge
If it came out in 5 minutes you still shouldn't use it
golden gust
Hypickle caters towards a specific niche of gameplay which works best in those versions
They have newer stuff too
spice plinth
You can update worlds? And backups exist?
Yes you can but large worlds would take weeks to backup and longer to restore, all requiring downtime
worthy geode
Well it doesnt seem to be too much of an issue for people to use "prehistoric" v...
Hypixel is not comparable here, they more or less run their custom server software at this point
worthy geode
Yes you can but large worlds would take weeks to backup and longer to restore, a...
how large is your world that it would take weeks? lol
rare python
Ya, thats nonsense.
spice plinth
how large is your world that it would take weeks? lol
With terrible internet a 1gb world could take weeks 
coral comet
Hypixel is not comparable here, they more or less run their custom server softwa...
Well yes, but my point was that they run on an older version of the game (for the most part) and have software that allows players on a newer client to join
jade flax
You should already be doing backups, if you aren't and something is corrupted that will add more downtime than backing up
void void
Is it safe to turn my server to spigot now?
worthy geode
Spigot also isn't stable
rare python
No.
mental meadow
It's spigot, make of that what you want
coral comet
I wouldnt use spigot
meager otter
Spigot is horrible
coral comet
Very slow ;-;
void void
Gotcha haha
mental meadow
hot tip: Don't run anything production on 1.19 yet
spice plinth
I mean, it works...
But at what cost.......
rare python
Spigot's performance suck, and its basically as stable as Paper right now.
meager otter
I just need paper today or tomowro or the smp i waited for 6 month will die
jade flax
Well, we can't make pigs fly
eager orbit
spigot isnt that great, and it lacks some plugin support, especially when it comes to things like waterfall
jade flax
So you will have to wait like the rest of the world
mental meadow
I just need paper today or tomowro or the smp i waited for 6 month will die
It shall banish
coral comet
I just need paper today or tomowro or the smp i waited for 6 month will die
I dont think anyone can speed that up for you
spice plinth
I just need paper today or tomowro or the smp i waited for 6 month will die
Too bad, so sad 🤣
rare python
Maybe slightly more stable, because it has less patches. But unstable regardless.
molten egret
I just need paper today or tomowro or the smp i waited for 6 month will die
Oki start helping or smth
meager otter
Ok lmao
void void
By Sunday will it be finished?
molten egret
Spigot's performance suck, and its basically as stable as Paper right now.
Yeah that’s where purpur comes in
mental meadow
No ETA means no ETA
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
coral comet
By Sunday will it be finished?
N O B O D Y K N O W S
rare python
Yeah that’s where purpur comes in
Okay you can go now.
void void
DANGIT
mental meadow
I'll just kick you instead^^ how about that
coral comet
^
crystal wasp
Why LGBBQ icon?
spice plinth
They literally worked non stop on it since spigot released they're going as fast as they can. You wanna help? Buy them a coffee on open collective xD
mental meadow
pride month, thats why
molten egret
I'll just kick you instead^^ how about that
No pls no kick
Is end of the month too optimistic?
crystal wasp
pride month, thats why
but what has paper to do with pride
jade flax
Why does that matter?
true canyon
Why LGBBQ icon?
We celebrating with a cookout?
mental meadow
A lot of people on the team and on the server are lgbtq+
crystal wasp
why not?
mental meadow
also good to clean out unwanted users
crystal wasp
A lot of people on the team and on the server are lgbtq+
*LGBTQIA+
molten egret
I think it looks nice
mental meadow
you literally said LGBBQ earlier, don't startt a discussion now
jade flax
^
vernal moth
I wanna kick people
molten egret
You should make it perminant
warm anchor
yes mini
jade flax
do it mini
mental meadow
No Mini
crystal wasp
oh no
true canyon
Pride month is prime grilling season. "LGBBQ" choice is making me hungry
vernal moth
Oh I want a large bbq
crystal wasp
xD
mental meadow
same
vernal moth
Paper bbq party wen
worthy geode
BBQ party for hangar release
molten egret
Ye
jade flax
paper bbq eta wen
molten egret
Will will burn paper to fuel it
mossy vessel
Paper bbq v hot
analog basin
Is there going to be an @ / everyone when the 1.19 build in completed, or should I just keep popping my head in here for updates every once in awhile. (Fully aware there is no ETA, and I'm willing to wait. I just don't want to miss the drop)
spice plinth
Could really do with a bbq rn thanks for making me hungry lol
mental meadow
Yes there will be
rare python
Is there going to be an @ / everyone when the 1.19 build in completed, or should...
Probably?
analog basin
Thanks ❤️
spice plinth
Is there going to be an @ / everyone when the 1.19 build in completed, or should...
See #❗ 1.19
true canyon
Party might get ruined if someone opens a spigot on the grill.
coral comet
Just realized if spigot and paper mixed we would get no more paper
vernal moth
Then you don't have to endure the monstrosity that #general has been the past few days
molten egret
Is it safe to assume it will be out by the end of the month?
coral comet
Because water and paper dont mix
mental meadow
No ETA means no ETA
cedar spade
Yes they do
worthy geode
Just realized if spigot and paper mixed we would get no more paper
WetPaper, new fork
rare python
ripe sphinx
WetPaper, new fork
spitball
meager otter
for people asking for ETA there is one bug fixed every day and 4 bugs left so it should come within 4 days
rare python
When Paper hard forks, I wonder how quickly people will make a fork to try and maintain spigot compatibility.
coral comet
We make a wetpaper fork combining both!
lavish compass
The world if Hangar releases
worthy geode
was it OR who had Toiletpaper as a fork name or was that someone else
ripe sphinx
When Paper hard forks, I wonder how quickly people will make a fork to try and m...
oh god a whole new level of forge-bukkit hacks
forge-bukkit-paper hacks
rare python
oh god a whole new level of forge-bukkit hacks
forge-spigot-paper-sponge forks lets go
ripe sphinx
Don't forget fabric
coral comet
Fabric-forge-spigot-paper-glowstone-sponge fork
rare python
Lol
neat flax
Ok I have a question, is there a way that I can be notified by a group/room if there is a stable release so that I don't see the spam messages of ETAs?
coral comet
worthy geode
Fabric-forge-spigot-paper-glowstone-sponge fork
but Minestom!
vernal moth
was it OR who had Toiletpaper as a fork name or was that someone else <:kekw:674...
Michael stole it
rare python
Fabric-forge-spigot-paper-glowstone-sponge fork
wth is glowstone?
molten egret
No ETA means no ETA
Oki I will tell people in my discord end of the year
mental meadow
Ok I have a question, is there a way that I can be notified by a group/room if t...
follow #❗ 1.19
ripe sphinx
Ok I have a question, is there a way that I can be notified by a group/room if t...
there'll be an @e presumably, plus can follow #❗ 1.19
vernal moth
wth is glowstone?
Clean room impl of paper-api
neat flax
follow <#979403214610890792>
thanks
loud zealot
Sitting in a stall doing my business and some dude just starts looking under my stall asking when I’m gonna be done
I hate public restrooms
worthy geode
Michael stole it
Michael stole the toiletpaper, real evil
frozen frost
Have people tried hosting a vanilla server until paper releases? I know 1.18 vanilla had horrendous performance so I'm curious if it's any better or I should try something else
rare python
Clean room impl of paper-api
Interesting, does not sound like the worst idea ever, certainly better then paper-forge or anything like that.
daring hare
Would be really great from paper if they allowed people to join from a higher client) or is there a plugin for this?
rare python
ViaVersion
worthy geode
Interesting, does not sound like the worst idea ever, certainly better then pape...
pretty sure its still on 1.12.2 tho
meager otter
Have people tried hosting a vanilla server until paper releases? I know 1.18 van...
well all i can say is that bukkit is terrible but idk for others
vernal moth
Interesting, does not sound like the worst idea ever, certainly better then pape...
Idk I don't think that if you spend all the time doing a clean room impl, using the horrible Bukkit API is a good idea
rare python
Well yes...
spice plinth
Out of curiosity, what did you build the paper website with?
coral comet
Ah yes, quilt-forge-fabric fork
rare python
But its better then trying to frankinstine paper and forge together or something similar
brave mountain
I admit that I'm a little tired of seeing rainbows everywhere. I'm a dark mode guy.
vernal moth
Out of curiosity, what did you build the paper website with?
Don't look at it it's horrible
spice plinth
Oooooo I didn't notice that on git nice
mental meadow
We are reworking it atm, so don't start contributing now^^
coral comet
Out of curiosity, what did you build the paper website with?
Good old-fashioned duct-tape
rare python
Good old-fashioned duct-tape
ioncore in a nutshell
coral comet
Yup!
jade flax
I thought we used trees
warm anchor
Sneak peek into new paper website
spice plinth
We are reworking it atm, so don't start contributing now^^
Ooooh nice! Lemme know if you need an experienced frontend developer to help 👍
mental meadow
I'm not gonna confirm or deny that that picture is accurate
rare python
Sneak peek into new paper website
okay im switching to purpur now
brave mountain
do you have a paper-chan animation? like anime?
rare python
🤔
worthy geode
I will be very disappointed if there is no paper-chan somewhere on the finished page
mental meadow
do you have a paper-chan animation? like anime?
oh god that would be so epic and so expensive
warm anchor
Going back to tuinity!
mental meadow
Tuinity is also weeb
true canyon
Sneak peek into new paper website
No leaks! 
coral comet
Time to go back to airplane
smoky cloud
Yatopia
spice plinth
*Time to go back to airplane*
The movie? Lol
coral comet
The movie? Lol
The... server software
brave mountain
oh god that would be so epic and so expensive
we are surrounded by autodidacts, shouldn't be hard though
rare python
going back to spigot
coral comet
Ban
rare python
Nah forget that, going back to hmod
smoky cloud
Mirai 
coral comet
going back to craftbukkit
brave mountain
and we need a voice actress
smoky cloud
Vanilla
coral comet
Thermos!
rare python
~~going back to craftbukkit~~
hmod is bukkit before bukkit was a thing
coral comet
Ah
worthy geode
Pretty sure Mirai is weeb as well
rare python
And is also not a thing anymore
brave mountain
can start with auditions
molten egret
do you have a paper-chan animation? like anime?
Might try to make paper Chan and the patching of 1.19 anime this summer || oh and it’s going to be accurate paper Chan will be sitting infront of a computer with an Ide open for 10 hours straight||
smoky cloud
Pufferfish
rare python
And is also not a thing anymore
Considering the state of Bukkit, I am not sure if its for the better.
coral comet
Im goinf back to multicraft!
rare python
However hmod predates me even knowing about MC so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
smoky cloud
Mirai’s dead?
worthy geode
no
mental meadow
Look at this very epic blog post from Maddy :3 https://madelinemiller.dev/blog/decade-of-minecraft-multiplayer/
coral comet
The end is never the end...
brave mountain
paper chan could say "kenny-kun is working on the paper patches, please be patient mina"
rare python
Look at this very epic blog post from Maddy :3 https://madelinemiller.dev/blog/d...
I saw that at some point, I meant to go back and read that
worthy geode
its a good read
spice plinth
It's certainly been a wild ride lol
mental meadow
Maddys blog is very epic
mental meadow
paper chan could say "kenny-kun is working on the paper patches, please be patie...
@warm anchor can we get like a VA on fiverr to do that
void void
We are reworking it atm, so don't start contributing now^^
was actually gonna ask about that later today, looks like you beat me to it :)
warm anchor
brave mountain
Look at this very epic blog post from Maddy :3 https://madelinemiller.dev/blog/d...
minecraft has such a lore in the gaming community
warm anchor
gotta be high budget or bust!
coral comet
Hippity Hoppity this gotta Stoppity
spice plinth
Lmao 'Two days after the first multiplier server, the first anti grief mod released' xD
brave mountain
you could earn money in twitch with paper-chan streams
coral comet
No
mental meadow
still my favorite blog post https://madelinemiller.dev/blog/name-change-process/
worthy geode
Paper-chan VTuber 👀
mental meadow
I have my avatar as a vtuber model🤔
brave mountain
but I think a full AI like command controlled with text to speech would be really good
but I don't know if is possible
frank otter
I have my avatar as a vtuber model🤔
vtubing paper-dev when
I think the quality of kneny's streams would be improved by him as a vtuber in the corner
mental meadow
not comfortable enough with my voice or my dev abilities for that lol
frank otter
ah fair enough
brave mountain
void void
no
radiant mantle
:c
mental meadow
Guys any updates on <#979403214610890792>
If there were, do you know where you could find them?
Hint: #❗ 1.19
radiant mantle
Yes lol
warm anchor
No other legal way. That's the official price
cedar moon
if its a gift stop being a cheap skate and just buy it sheesh
radiant mantle
So if k already have a world and I want to update to 1.19 paper will that be possible
Or do I need to recreate a world
mental meadow
You can upgrade of course
spice plinth
pretty sure cdkeys has it cheaper
radiant mantle
Like I have an 1.19 world. But if I want to make it paper in the future is that possible
mental meadow
Like I have an 1.19 world. But if I want to make it paper in the future is that ...
That is also possible, but we recommend generating your world with Paper, to make sure everything is correct^^
spice plinth
Dunno - think they only do it separate on there
Could also get discounted Microsoft store credit and buy with that
warm anchor
I dont think they sold them as key anymore atleast not phyical card in US
grim island
Guys any updates on <#979403214610890792>
latest updates on ‘#❗ 1.19’ specifically:
<t:1653578322:R> — channel was created
brave mountain
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/cognitive-services/text-to-speech/#ov...
grim island
yes
spice plinth
Did they bring it back?
worthy geode
other way around as well iirc
spice plinth
I thought that stopped recently
warm anchor
if you buy 1, you get the other
grim island
they are now sold together (PC only)
warm anchor
that works on both now
spice plinth
Oh nice
I panicked like 2 days before they stopped doing it originally because I forgot to get Bedrock xD
brave mountain
latest updates on ‘<#979403214610890792>’ specifically:
<t:1653578322:R> — chann...
how to make that thing if date?
spice plinth
<t:1010101> lol discord timestamps
brave mountain
<t:1010101>
mental meadow
radiant mantle
So if I haven’t generated the end or nether in my vanilla world. And I move to paper, will it work properly? Or will the end and nether be scuffed
brave mountain
cool
brave mountain
listen aurora
mental meadow
So if I haven’t generated the end or nether in my vanilla world. And I move to p...
usually that works properly
I did listen
not kawaii enough
radiant mantle
Ok so I don’t need to generate them
grim island
how to make that thing if date?
gathered channel creation date from its ID (snowflakes have date in them) and then used discord timestamp formatting
grim island
https://r.3v.fi/discord-timestamps/
frank otter
https://r.3v.fi/discord-timestamps/
fun fact you can put negative numbers in timestamps which gives really weird behaviour
it seems to go some depth into 1969 then give up and jump to like millions of years in the future
molten egret
I have my avatar as a vtuber model🤔
I was thinking about making vtuber software using open cv and pyglet
Was gonna use a hard cascade for eyes
And then a tracking sticker on the chin for the mouth
brave mountain
spice plinth
it seems to go some depth into 1969 then give up and jump to like millions of ye...
It's when the integer wraps IIRC it starts counting the other way
molten egret
fun fact you can put negative numbers in timestamps which gives really weird beh...
Nah <t:-1028429473932>
Looks fine
grim island
github now has achievements 😭
brave mountain
when humans didn't exist
spice plinth
Nah <t:-1028429473932>
Is that the 1.19 eta? 😂
warm anchor
it is very myfellowkid feel achievement...
spice plinth
Ooooo
twin lagoon
weeb
grim island
it is very **myfellowkid** feel achievement...
damn imagine having brain
spice plinth
Should actually contribute to open source more xDD
grim island
I don't have a brain
warm anchor
turning it into social media 
signal harbor
woah eta is 20mins-20 years
molten egret
We should give an eta of the end of the year and if we fail let’s delete the papermc repo website and discord
grim island
woah eta is 20mins-20 years
always has been 🔫
molten egret
We should give an eta of the end of the year and if we fail let’s delete the pap...
Who are they going to bitch about to?
grim island
back in my days we've had actual ETA
it was called 30 seconds to mars
oh and there also was wake me up when september ends
mighty hamlet
WHY ISNT PAPER 1.19 OUT YET?!?!?! >:(
mental meadow
because
grim island
because
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
golden gust
We await your contribution
mental meadow
we always have to stop programming to answer that question
mighty hamlet
o
brave mountain
every 1 ask +24 hours
mighty hamlet
well sorry the only mc i play on is paper
fallow fable
give it a beta from the paper 1.19 release?
give it a beta from the paper 1.19 release?
void void
...
mental meadow
If you can't code, financial contributions are also welcome, 46h of work so far * 20€ per hour is only 920€ if you can afford that
mental meadow
give it a beta from the paper 1.19 release?
no, #❗ 1.19
grim island
every time you ask for release it gets delayed by 30 minutes. think of your actions™
mental meadow
mind you 20€/h is pretty cheap for a java dev
molten egret
WHY ISNT PAPER 1.19 OUT YET?!?!?! >:(
Want my version?
worthy geode
mind you 20€/h is pretty cheap for a java dev
seeing this reminds me that I should stop doing things for free
spice plinth
mind you 20€/h is pretty cheap for a java dev
My company pays juniors more than that I think 😂
warm anchor
in my city, you can deliver food for people for more than that
void void
Want my version?
please don't
worthy geode
minimum wage here is 10,45€ so 20€ isn't too bad
molten egret
please don't
;-;
warm anchor
minimum wage here is 10,45€ so 20€ isn't too bad
US minimum wage officially is $7.25 
little frost
mind you 20€/h is pretty cheap for a java dev
what??
mental meadow
at least here
signal harbor
ye
ripe sphinx
I still find that (US min wage) insane, my local min wage is 16.55 iirc
warm anchor
yeah but no one really is paying that little unless you live at middle of nowhere
snow iron
Can't wait for progress, keep it up devs
spice plinth
yeah but no one really is paying that little unless you live at middle of nowher...
Or you're doing something trivial like working a stockroom
Apparently I'm on £50/h xD
obsidian lotus
genuine question (i rlly do not mind how long it takes !! im just curious) if one of the devs said earlier how it was going to take weeks but then yesterday said most patches were done, does that mean it might take less time ? or r we still operating on a general unknown eta
mental meadow
general no ETA
spice plinth
ETA is unknown
worthy geode
weeks until its stable for sure
warm anchor
It's like file transfer ETA on old windows. You never know how long it will take 
ripe sphinx
At this rate I'm guessing the first builds will be ready in a few days, but stable builds are still weeks out
although I'm not sure what's happening with API for the new cryptographic stuff so that might delay stuff
worthy geode
at least on the velocity side of things it seems to be quite complicated
ripe sphinx
yeah no surprise there