#general | PaperMC | Page 1938

slender surge Jun 8, 2022, 11:54 PM

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Is it worth switching from VSCode to VSCodium

shrewd lintel Jun 8, 2022, 11:54 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/пон-pon-понятно-ясно-gif-25633797

Tenor

slender surge Jun 8, 2022, 11:54 PM

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or is that only for crazy people that think they're being spied on

golden gust Jun 8, 2022, 11:55 PM

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Not really any noticeable difference last I saw

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Telemetry is also a fun topic

molten egret Jun 8, 2022, 11:55 PM

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what was the point of log4j in minecraft? was the defualt System.out not fine for logging?

slender surge Jun 8, 2022, 11:56 PM

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I remember some crazy family coming into my old work at a tech store trying to buy security so the government dont steal the books the mother was writing

golden gust Jun 8, 2022, 11:56 PM

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It's not like they care what you specifically are doing, butz such metrics are often used to discover where to focus time on, etc

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Sout is not a logger

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Sout doesn't create log files

distant badge Jun 8, 2022, 11:59 PM

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i remember atom lol

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i tried it and hated it

true canyon Jun 9, 2022, 12:00 AM

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Okay but me first! 🙂

distant badge Jun 9, 2022, 12:00 AM

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when is paper 1.19 coming out

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:01 AM

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golden gust Sout is not a logger

what is scout?

spare venture Jun 9, 2022, 12:01 AM

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distant badge when is paper 1.19 coming out

/eta

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:01 AM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 12:01 AM

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System.out

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:02 AM

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golden gust System.out

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shrewd lintel Jun 9, 2022, 12:03 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/privet-hi-hello-приветик-привет-gif-15967847

Tenor

hazy trail Jun 9, 2022, 12:05 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/vodka-gif-21557121

Tenor

shrewd lintel Jun 9, 2022, 12:06 AM

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hazy trail https://tenor.com/view/vodka-gif-21557121

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-gif-25288613

Tenor

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 12:09 AM

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Oh nooo

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Oh dear ho dear nooo

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No memes in general*

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:12 AM

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why cant I chat in #adorable-pets

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 12:13 AM

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You need the proper role.

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:13 AM

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also how much do I need to contribute to get @amber cloaktributor

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 12:14 AM

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A lot.

worthy geode Jun 9, 2022, 12:14 AM

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and now whoever con is will be very confused why they got pinged

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:14 AM

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is there a number

worthy geode Jun 9, 2022, 12:15 AM

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more than Owen and Machine Maker together kekw

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 12:15 AM

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molten egret is there a number

There isn't a specific "lines of code" number to contribute, but the core team needs to feel the person has been active and contributed what they feel is enough for the role.

worthy geode Jun 9, 2022, 12:16 AM

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Your goal really shouldn't be contributing because you want some discord role. You should contribute because you like the project and have actual useful stuff to contribute that improves Paper

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 12:16 AM

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i was suffering on filezilla until i discovered vscode have a sftp extension

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 12:16 AM

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worthy geode Your goal really shouldn't be contributing because you want some discord role. Y...

100% this, too.

limber knotBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:18 AM

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I mean, whatever motivates you... contributions are contributions ¯_(ツ)_/¯

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:18 AM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

limber knotBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:18 AM

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mine usually is to stop cat from shitting on my rug

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:19 AM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 12:19 AM

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And whatever you have or don't have the role.

distant badge Jun 9, 2022, 12:19 AM

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spare venture /eta

there is no eta

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 12:19 AM

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Stop it

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 12:19 AM

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distant badge there is no eta

Correct. There is no ETA. No need to spam /eta

rare python Jun 9, 2022, 12:19 AM

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worthy geode Your goal really shouldn't be contributing because you want some discord role. Y...

One of my main reasons for trying to contribute is that I wanted to try better understand how Paper works, regarding both the server, and how the server is developed.

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:20 AM

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limber knot I mean, whatever motivates you... contributions are contributions ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

what motivates me is having my name be a slightly different color than othere people on a discord that I barley chat on

worthy geode Jun 9, 2022, 12:20 AM

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just throw your table out of the window so you can become No Table, also gets you a fancy color

limber knotBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:21 AM

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meanwhile I'm totally fine with white and that fancy tag

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runs

rare python Jun 9, 2022, 12:23 AM

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rare python One of my main reasons for trying to contribute is that I wanted to try better u...

And honestly I am glad I did. It forced me to learn (at least partially) how to control git from the CLI instead of IntelliJ's UI for it. Although the whole patch system is purified pain and suffering.

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 12:25 AM

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just go check out NMS and then tinker with a project to make your own server

gray perch Jun 9, 2022, 12:35 AM

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ayo hows paper goin

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:35 AM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

earnest current Jun 9, 2022, 12:35 AM

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We mean progress wise

gray perch Jun 9, 2022, 12:35 AM

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:true:

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 12:35 AM

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Check #❗ 1.19 for updates.

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But there's still no ETA.

gray perch Jun 9, 2022, 12:36 AM

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alright

earnest current Jun 9, 2022, 12:36 AM

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Hasn’t need updated in a while

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 12:36 AM

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Then there's no new update.

earnest current Jun 9, 2022, 12:36 AM

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Very observant

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 12:37 AM

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You could also join the stream where Machine is working on it right now.

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#851516819177209878

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:52 AM

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worthy geode just throw your table out of the window so you can become No Table, also gets yo...

elaborate

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how do I get #adorable-pets chat perms

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:16 AM

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molten egret how do I get <#506018400078659585> chat perms

Mostly just be around for a while and not seem like a troll.

potent wedge Jun 9, 2022, 1:18 AM

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I can get some adorable dog ones rn

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void void Jun 9, 2022, 1:24 AM

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Which is best minecraft server software

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Paper?

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 1:31 AM

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You chose.

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:33 AM

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void void Paper?

vanilla

void void Jun 9, 2022, 1:33 AM

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bruh no plugin support

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:33 AM

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vanilla

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

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void void Which is best minecraft server software

You're in the Paper Discord, so most of us here believe it's Paper.

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But you're welcome to use whatever you'd like.

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:34 AM

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paper = 0s startup

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no dupes

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but

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vanilla is better

low root Jun 9, 2022, 1:35 AM

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I'm not exactly sure if this is the correct place to ask but does anyone have any recommendations for server hosts? But I'm not 100% if that's because 1.19 is even super unoptimized on spigot or if I have a crap host. Waiting for paper though 🤞 looking for a fairly lag free experience w/ around 10-15 ppl

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

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low root I'm not exactly sure if this is the correct place to ask but does anyone have an...

don't look for the biggest

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look for the nearest host to your house

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:36 AM

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Bloom host is pretty highly recommended.

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But depends a lot on what you're looking for, where you want the host to be, etc.

low root Jun 9, 2022, 1:38 AM

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coarse lily But depends a lot on what you're looking for, where you want the host to be, etc...

Just really looking for a vanilla/spigot/paper server w/ friends. Like I said, 15-20 players max at peak hours and hosted in NA. Specific location in NA is not really a big deal.

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 1:38 AM

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muted mirage no dupes

Wouldn't say that, they just do a very good job at fixing them very fast.

void void Jun 9, 2022, 1:39 AM

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coarse lily You're in the Paper Discord, so most of us here believe it's Paper.

https://youtu.be/Ahrn8AXc46k

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timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 1:39 AM

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low root Just really looking for a vanilla/spigot/paper server w/ friends. Like I said, 1...

15-20 players won't be a struggle at all. Just use Paper 1.18.2 (or 1.19 when it comes out) and get a good server and you'll be good.

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:39 AM

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void void https://youtu.be/Ahrn8AXc46k

I already know the difference, thanks.

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IMO it doesn't make sense to use spigot. Paper is faster and has a lot of other improvements.

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bukkit doesn't really exist anymore.

low root Jun 9, 2022, 1:41 AM

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timber ice 15-20 players won't be a struggle at all. Just use Paper 1.18.2 (or 1.19 when it...

Yup, spigot is much more optimized atm than straight up vanilla and really wanting to mess around in 1.19. So I'm just waiting for Paper but even though, we're like hundreds of ticks behind and server is lagging to hell. Will look into bloom host tonight onceLuv Thanks guys

void void Jun 9, 2022, 1:41 AM

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Spigot is better than Bukkit Paper is faster than Spigot

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:42 AM

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just

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vanilla

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u know

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better server

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 1:42 AM

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No lol

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:43 AM

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muted mirage vanilla

You're in the wrong server if you're recommending vanilla to people.

foggy silo Jun 9, 2022, 1:43 AM

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trol

flat mural Jun 9, 2022, 1:43 AM

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Lol

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:43 AM

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void void Spigot is better than Bukkit Paper is faster than Spigot

Bukkit is dead. Otherwise, yes.

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:43 AM

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coarse lily You're in the wrong server if you're recommending vanilla to people.

know whats better than vanilla

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bedrock 😎

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 1:43 AM

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lol

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 1:43 AM

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bedrock is vanilla lol

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:44 AM

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no

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bedrock is bedrock

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better than bedrock only hosting 1.19 servers in terraria

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 1:44 AM

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Do you even know what vanilla means?

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:44 AM

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Bedrock and Java edition aren't quite the same. And "vanilla" is kind of an ephemeral term people use which doesn't quite have a solid meaning.

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 1:44 AM

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Why are you talking about terraria in MC Discord

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:45 AM

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Good question.

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:45 AM

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i'm just bringing the meme ahead u know

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u just

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downloaded

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and sent without even change the file name

void void Jun 9, 2022, 1:46 AM

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coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 1:46 AM

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. . .

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 1:47 AM

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When you run the bedrock oficial server you are using the "vanilla" version of the bedrock server. Paper can act as a bedrock server thanks to Geyser.
Anything not modified from the oficial source is called vanilla.

muted mirage Jun 9, 2022, 1:48 AM

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brave mountain When you run the bedrock oficial server you are using the "vanilla" version of t...

btw

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is floodgate really necessary?

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 1:49 AM

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For no need a java account, yes.

south raptor Jun 9, 2022, 1:59 AM

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muted mirage is floodgate really necessary?

if you only have geyser then only people with a java account can join

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 1:59 AM

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muted mirage paper = 0s startup

timing reset would like to say differently

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idk why but I did use to see sub second startups

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ig my proccessor on my real public cloud mashine is 1/2 of the power of my private mashine

potent cradle Jun 9, 2022, 2:17 AM

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bruh im tryna play my server its taking forever

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:20 AM

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Give me $5000 and it'll be done tomorrow

spiral robin Jun 9, 2022, 2:21 AM

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I have 13 cents

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We can probably crowd source the rest

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:36 AM

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I can pledge one us dime

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:36 AM

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hows everyone enjoying 1.19?

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i mean caves and cliffs part 3

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Awaiting paper

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:37 AM

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fr lol

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Haven’t even downloaded the client

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Also awaiting optifine

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:37 AM

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ah yes

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only be 12 years

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:37 AM

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All of my bedrock players can’t join

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:37 AM

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i cant do cross play

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:38 AM

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I might try to switch to spigot

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:38 AM

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real crow i cant do cross play

O why not?

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:38 AM

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my community voted it down

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:38 AM

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real crow my community voted it down

Use your executive powers and overrule them

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:38 AM

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my smp runs through voting

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:38 AM

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Tbh the community is always so lame

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:38 AM

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lol

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:39 AM

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Like they hate custom world gen

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:39 AM

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as do i

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I only wanna play vanilla mc

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 2:39 AM

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I have 3 nice players tho

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They will play no matter what I do :)

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:40 AM

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i play with adults... the only reason im the admin is cause i started it

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:40 AM

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molten egret Also awaiting optifine

Sodium is faster than optifine and has a 1.19 build

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:40 AM

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everyone gets a voice in my server

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:40 AM

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magic river Sodium is faster than optifine and has a 1.19 build

lol who wants to use 24 mods tho

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when optifine covers all

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:40 AM

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optifine does a lot but poorly

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:40 AM

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im fine with it

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works great for me

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must be the 3k pc

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:41 AM

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It doesn't even make things faster on my system 😛

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:41 AM

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lolololol

void void Jun 9, 2022, 2:42 AM

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give me your wallspaper

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:42 AM

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void void give me your wallspaper

pfp?

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what wallpaper

void void Jun 9, 2022, 2:42 AM

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your

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:42 AM

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im not sure what a wallpaper is in discord

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i know what a pfp is tho

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🤨

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there wall paper

void void Jun 9, 2022, 2:43 AM

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.......

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your computer wallpaper

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:43 AM

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lol wtf

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how the hell would you even know what it is

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could be big anime boobies or something

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🤨

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:44 AM

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real crow must be the 3k pc

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Waiting for AM5 to upgrade the CPU, poor GPU and SSD are bottlenecked right now

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 2:44 AM

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magic river Sodium is faster than optifine and has a 1.19 build

sad thing there is no Sodium for Forge

void void Jun 9, 2022, 2:44 AM

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wtf why this wallpaper

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 2:44 AM

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nor a Shaders-only mod for Forge

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optifine also ate that one up so it's kinda hard when people go like "don't use optifine with other modpacks because incompatibilities" and I want to use shaders

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:45 AM

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That's a 2TB PCIe4 NVMe 😄

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Runs at half speed right now because PCIe3

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:45 AM

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hows the 7600k? i got the 12600k back in February ish

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i can run like 4 games at once

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not that I need to

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but still

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:46 AM

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I want my next CPU to be AMD, Intel stuff is meh lately

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:46 AM

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fair enough

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 2:46 AM

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that's a nice machine

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:46 AM

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some would say that about amd as well

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:46 AM

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Been waiting for AM5 for like a year now, didn't want to get on the tail end of a dead platform

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I don't see why they would say that about AMD

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 2:46 AM

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those monitors are odd though

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the resolutions, I mean

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:47 AM

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Intel stuff uses twice the power to try to get close to AMD performance right now

void void Jun 9, 2022, 2:47 AM

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magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:47 AM

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tropic flame those monitors are odd though

It's 2 4K@144Hz 10-bit monitors, the weird resolution is because of scaling

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:48 AM

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magic river I don't see why they would say that about AMD

loyalty id imagine... also i heard that that some of the latest amd chips weren't the best...

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 2:48 AM

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void void

I want to claim you modded Windows 11 to look like 7 because the taskbar looks too plain (it doesn't have the neat glass light textures?), but it might just be legit

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 2:48 AM

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magic river Intel stuff uses twice the power to try to get close to AMD performance right no...

source?

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:48 AM

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perhaps they had been sniffing glue or something

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but i defo heard someone complain about amd

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 2:50 AM

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I'll def need a new SSD

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512GB isn't suiting for anyone nowadays

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:51 AM

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I guess Alder Lake did get a little better https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Ws3yJJrBR6ujuC7H2XvY4A-1900-80.png

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:51 AM

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magic river I guess Alder Lake did get a little better https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Ws3...

lol thats my chip... or half my chip

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alder lake something

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:52 AM

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Err, all the 12XXX ones are Alder Lake

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 2:52 AM

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That's one test case lol

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:52 AM

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That's peak power usage, basically

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:52 AM

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magic river Err, all the 12XXX ones are Alder Lake

i seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 2:53 AM

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Yeah under max performance, which you will most likely never encounter, each brand is good at it's own things.

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:53 AM

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im fine with my current setup

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:53 AM

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Unless someone is doing perf/W measurements on real world benchmarks that's usually what you look at

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:53 AM

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i5-12600k and 3080 rtx

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seems good enough

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:53 AM

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On real world benchmarks they trade blows but then on power consumption it's like "whoa"

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 2:53 AM

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That's like saying AMD is trash because Intel sits at an idle wattage that is lower then AMD.

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:53 AM

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I LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE CAVES AND CLIFFS PART 3

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:54 AM

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AMD dies have a higher idle than Alder Lake, yeah

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Due to the 14nm IO chiplet and Alder Lake adding the efficiency cores

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I wonder if AMD is ever going to move to a big.LITTLE design

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Intel finally did, like 10 years after ARM 😄

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AMD is the odd one out at this point

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 2:54 AM

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what about little big design?

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seems rude to leave it out

cunning raft Jun 9, 2022, 2:55 AM

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isn't part of that because they don't have their own fab

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Will TMC even let them

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 2:55 AM

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I don't know why TSMC would care

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They're selling wafers, more or less

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They don't care what you do with them

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I guess AMD would rather make Zen chiplets though because if they're perfect they can go in EPYC and otherwise they can go in Ryzen

spark zephyr Jun 9, 2022, 3:14 AM

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paper 1.19 beta out?

hollow hedge Jun 9, 2022, 3:17 AM

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Not according to the 1.19 channel

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#❗ 1.19

void void Jun 9, 2022, 3:23 AM

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"HiPixel"

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 3:25 AM

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WTF is this?

void void Jun 9, 2022, 3:26 AM

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FakePixel

void void Jun 9, 2022, 3:26 AM

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coarse lily WTF is this?

You got scammed im not owner

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 3:26 AM

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!warn @void void Stop trolling.

thorny flickerBOT Jun 9, 2022, 3:26 AM

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:raised_hands: Warned 賜賜#6575 (Stop trolling.) [2 total infractions] -- ocelotpotpie#5943.

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:28 AM

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@simple garden https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/craftpresence/files
This one intergrade with Discord rich-presence, you can even show where you are or what you are doing PepeLa (Continue from the topic in #paper-help earlier)

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 3:42 AM

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to mitigate Seed Reversing is it viable to use securerandom?

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 3:47 AM

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I'd assume so

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The whole point of SecureRandom is to be a cryptographically strong RNG

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:51 AM

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warm anchor <@272881059916677120> <https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/craftpresenc...

do you use sodium + iris?

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:51 AM

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yeah

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:51 AM

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where do i goto get the rain to show lol

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by the way my fps in in the 70s even when dashing through the jungle 😄

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ive never had 70 in a jungle lol

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:52 AM

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I actually dont know where it actually nasted in

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you will need to click through everything lol

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:53 AM

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yeah i was gonna go on a click off lol

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:53 AM

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Make sure you have this too https://modrinth.com/mod/modmenu

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:53 AM

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do you have a suggested shader?

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:53 AM

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so there is a centralized place for configs

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:54 AM

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how do i use it?

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like install it

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:54 AM

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I use Sildurs majority of time, SEUS for certain screenshot if I want to, and BSL sometimes, you can look into complementary too

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how did you install the fabric mod?

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:55 AM

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yeah

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ive never used mods

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just plugins

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if this helps ive had java for a month now.

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i come from the dark side *cough *cough bedrock

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:56 AM

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I mean how did you get your fabric loading to work? you install onto Vanilla launcher?

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:57 AM

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oh so the same way i installed a sodium and iris i am assuming?

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:57 AM

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Something like this you can use to mange it especially if you want multiple version and different set of modpacks installed @simple garden https://polymc.org/

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dropping additional mods should be pretty self-explanatory on that software.

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:58 AM

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So if I used the fabric goods will others that don't use fabric be able to play?

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:59 AM

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there is server side mod and client side mod all the one you installed so far is just client mod

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:59 AM

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On my server

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:59 AM

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you will need to have a fabric server instead of paper if you want those mod to work.

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 3:59 AM

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Oh snap. Fabric is either or O.o

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 3:59 AM

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client side mod is whatever and do help a lot for FPS

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:00 AM

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Well just the stuff you've told me about I am enjoying my fps at the moment already.

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I gave myself speed 255 so I am sonic dashing around lol

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:01 AM

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You can take a look at this if you wish, I made this for my own community but that's basically all the mod I use. Some of them are borderline hack client feature but PepeLa
https://eternity.community/index.php/minecraft-client-optimization/
semi-updated but some mod hasnt update to 1.19 yet

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:02 AM

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Do you run your own paper server?

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:02 AM

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12 years later....

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I LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE CAVES AND CLIFFS PART 3

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:03 AM

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simple garden Do you run your own paper server?

yeah but my community isnt really about Minecraft. We just happen to have a Minecraft server as well PepeLa we play multiple games as a whole type of thing

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:03 AM

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Oh that's cool. I have a similar commilunity for gamers no specific games.

fluid carbon Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 AM

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when's paper 1.19 fr

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 AM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 AM

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@fluid carbon ^

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 AM

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@warm anchor see multimc is nice. I can use the version switcher

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 AM

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Is PolyMC a MultiMC fork or something?

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 AM

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can u update faster plz @development team

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or else ill have to step in..

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:06 AM

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magic river Is PolyMC a MultiMC fork or something?

yes

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:07 AM

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jovial dust or else ill have to step in..

Please do, I'll expect it to be done tomorrow

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You'd better get to work

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:07 AM

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jovial dust or else ill have to step in..

someone will eventually

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:07 AM

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@magic river is your pic a Rowdyruff Boy lol

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:07 AM

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yay someone got it

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:07 AM

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magic river Please do, I'll expect it to be done tomorrow

how about I do

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ill fork it

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ill call it

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PoopMC

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for 1.19

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:08 AM

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Why aren't you done yet?

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:08 AM

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aikar

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:08 AM

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!kick @jovial dust join back when you decide to stop asking for ETA

thorny flickerBOT Jun 9, 2022, 4:08 AM

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:raised_hands: Kicked Allah#5869 (join back when you decide to stop asking for ETA) [1 total infraction] -- EterNity#0001.

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:08 AM

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phosdorime

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:08 AM

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Buttercup is better js

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XD

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Oh yeah see on my server when I boot someone it is a little thor that tosses a hammer lol

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@magic river the damn theme song is stuck in my head now

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:11 AM

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Someone made me this avatar in 2006 iirc, when they asked I told them I liked powerpuff girls and my favorite programming language was python

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I got this back

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:11 AM

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Fighting crime...
trying to save the world!!!

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:11 AM

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My avatar is old enough to drive, holy cow 😄

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:12 AM

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you kicked him for asking about eta

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sheesh

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:12 AM

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Haha I write in python on unity xD

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:13 AM

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real crow you kicked him for asking about eta

If you think that was for just asking I'm not sure we were reading the same chat 😄

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:13 AM

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Constant asking gets the boot. Read the #❗ 1.19 channel. There is no eta. They are working out the patch.

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:14 AM

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happy

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:14 AM

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I LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE CAVES AND CLIFFS PART 3

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:15 AM

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I wonder how many people in here are younger than my nick.... Saved this from freenode before it died:

08:27 AM -NickServ- Information on Amaranth (account Amaranth):
08:27 AM -NickServ- Registered : Apr 14 22:50:44 2003 (18y 7w 4d ago)
08:27 AM -NickServ- Last addr  : ~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth
08:27 AM -NickServ- vHost      : ubuntu/member/Amaranth
08:27 AM -NickServ- Last seen  : now
08:27 AM -NickServ- Logins from: Amaranth
08:27 AM -NickServ- Nicks      : Amaranth
08:27 AM -NickServ- Email      : amaranth@ubuntu.com
08:27 AM -NickServ- *** End of Info ***

simple garden Jun 9, 2022, 4:16 AM

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Oh damn that is old. You need a Swiffer Sweeper for that dust

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Is that how discord use to look?

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:17 AM

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this

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?

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I LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE CAVES AND CLIFFS PART 3

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what is this effect even called

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:20 AM

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warm anchor !kick <@584540054286762014> join back when you decide to stop asking for ETA

I am at a complete loss for why any reasonable person would do that

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Obviously it comes when it comes

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i am just fooling my friend

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:20 AM

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its the internet lol 🌨️

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gotta be careful

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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discord moderators!!!!!

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amiright

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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Better not make fun of any kind about ETA

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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yeah its annoying i get it

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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Joking about the ETA is worse than actually asking because now you're like "hehe is only joke" but still doing the same annoying thing

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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really annoying lol

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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If you cannot see why it is considered a spam at this point, idk what to tell you

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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i see

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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Oh, and this is called monospace

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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i mean... message deletion works as well.... wow what a boring ass name

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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Let people work peacefully, they do it for free.

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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pretty colors

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wait

limber knotBOT Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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You can do it from IRC too

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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fuck

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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limber knot You can do it `from IRC too`

wtf

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hacker

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lololol

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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It is also a bad thing to do to enter a forum/public chat room and start just "messing with your friends" when done frequently, it will render the chat unreadable. A good example of this is Minecraft official Discord. Everyone there are just talking to themselves

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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function(Gameobject)

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pretty color

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:22 AM

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jovial dust ```js function(Gameobject) ```

how tf

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you do that

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function(Gameobject)

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L

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:23 AM

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mfw

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:23 AM

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If you do ``` you get a multiline monospace (do the same again to end it)

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:23 AM

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u gotta put the abbrev of language in front of "```"

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:23 AM

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ah yes

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none of that made sense

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:23 AM

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If you do ```java it'll do java syntax highlighting on the contents

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:23 AM

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😄

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:23 AM

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'''js
function(test)
'''

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function(test)

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:24 AM

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forget i asked

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im so lost

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L

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🦙

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:24 AM

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my girlfriend has 206 bones in her body, now 205, now 204, now 203

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:24 AM

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wtf

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strange

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:24 AM

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@jovial dust @real crow please type in complete sentence.. and not spamming that chat.

spare venture Jun 9, 2022, 4:24 AM

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updates really bring the best out in everyone

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:24 AM

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warm anchor <@584540054286762014> <@558356524716523531> please type in complete sentence.. a...

what

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:24 AM

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https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/210298617-Markdown-Text-101-Chat-Formatting-Bold-Italic-Underline-

Discord

Markdown Text 101 (Chat Formatting: Bold, Italic, Underline)

Want to inject some flavor into your everyday text chat? You're in luck! Discord uses Markdown, a simple plain text formatting system that'll help you make your sentences stand out. Here's how to d...

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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where is the shitposting channel then

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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jovial dust what

This
Is
Spam

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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i mean if your gonna control how i need to chat im not even gonna bother... have a goodnight everyone

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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lol

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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jovial dust where is the shitposting channel then

you can DM your friends instead of posting all the junks for everyone to see will be a good start.

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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jovial dust where is the shitposting channel then

There is #gifs-and-memes but in general the answer is "on another server"

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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he is not my friend

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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also hello @spare venture 👋

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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sorry tac

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:25 AM

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We do at least try to be somewhat mature in here

spare venture Jun 9, 2022, 4:26 AM

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hello

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:26 AM

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Amaranth have you been to Minecraft official Discord lol

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:26 AM

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And, you know, there are 40k of us in here so if everyone was putting one word per line and saying weird things to make a single other person laugh you couldn't read anything

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 4:26 AM

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I only see changelogs lol

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:27 AM

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it's honestly so cursed. Texts are flying at the speed of sound and none of them make sense because they are really just all spams

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:27 AM

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So Everything Must Be Typed Like This Or Else It Is A Punishable Offense?

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my brother in christ it is not that deep

primal solar Jun 9, 2022, 4:27 AM

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That is sort of annoying too look at

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:28 AM

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i see what you mean by spam but

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:28 AM

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We have jokes, we do goofy things, but not every single message and we've also been here a while so people know us and know the jokes

brave mountain Jun 9, 2022, 4:28 AM

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I think no memes/gift/unwanted pics in general should be enforced.

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:28 AM

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I mean i've owned a 200+ person server and had no moderation short of no excessive flaming no doxxing and it worked fine

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:28 AM

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You just have to consider others while you chat in public that's about it. There are no detailed rules but social interaction come with practice and ages

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:28 AM

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That's nice

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:29 AM

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Fax

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Ok i am going to devleop a plugin now will compatability matter between 1.18 and 1.19

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probably not

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:30 AM

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If your plugin is only using the API it'll probably work on both

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:30 AM

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Ok I figured thank you

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:30 AM

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It might not, some API changes every release and 1.19 has the potential (unless they leave chat neutered) to be really disruptive

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:31 AM

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I mean it seems like the only thing they are really messing with is chunk stuff from what I read

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But im also an idiot and don't know how to spell Java so

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Ok fr thank you i'll put u in the authors list. If anyone harasses u to update it im sorry

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:32 AM

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I used to work on CraftBukkit, I'm used to needy teenagers pestering me for updates 😛

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:32 AM

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LOL

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you know Amaranth you probably old enough to be their father OMEGALUL

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:33 AM

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And needy 16-40 year olds acting like I just destroyed their business when an update taking a while means they can't scam kids as well for a couple days

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:33 AM

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real crow i mean if your gonna control how i need to chat im not even gonna bother... have...

this just popped into my head... discord literally has a feature called slowmode... might be smart to implement it

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:33 AM

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That's annoying

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:34 AM

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plz dont

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:34 AM

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That's not really needed. we are all adult here

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:34 AM

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Sometimes having a few lines in a row is fine, it depends on the context and how often you do it

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:34 AM

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How to make talking in a server unfun speedrun

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:34 AM

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Right, we don't need 100 rules and strict code enforcing them, people are expected to read the room and act like adults

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:34 AM

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magic river And needy 16-40 year olds acting like I just destroyed their business when an up...

Lol i dont even wanna know what you've seen

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Were you around in the DMCA days

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:35 AM

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Uh...

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Wolv beat me to it

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:35 AM

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Wait im thinking of two different things

real crow Jun 9, 2022, 4:35 AM

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its annoying to use a feature that discord provides

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kinda sus

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 4:35 AM

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the eula freakout and craftbukkit dmca

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:36 AM

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I was thinking about doing it, he said he was going to so I let him do it

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I probably would have chickened out 😛

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I was one of the developers up until the DMCA

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Well, just before the DMCA

woeful oar Jun 9, 2022, 4:41 AM

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why would u want to do it?

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i never understand... is there something to read?

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:45 AM

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I had just found out Microsoft was buying Mojang, the previous developers of Bukkit had been getting paid by Curse to do it but that same company just leeched off us, and then Mojang said they were going to take over development of the project

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And they had apparently owned the trademark and a big chunk of the (mod specific) copyrights the whole time without telling anyone

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:48 AM

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warm anchor yes

This fork seems hostile AF

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:49 AM

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PepeLa block game drama

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:49 AM

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This looks like a ffmpeg v libav thing where the libav devs were also the debian packagers and hijacked all the ffmpeg packages to make them actually libav

grim island Jun 9, 2022, 4:50 AM

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well it's been created in response to hostility of the multimc dev

void void Jun 9, 2022, 4:50 AM

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well in this case the multimc dev compared adding multimc to package managers to rape... ^

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 4:50 AM

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So make a polymc package and orphan the multimc one, don't hijack the multimc one to make it install your fork

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:51 AM

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On that stand point I am with you amaranth but I think it was also on how the og author handles it but hey I was just sending that guy something to use notlikerie

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But glad you did your research into it PepeLa

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 4:55 AM

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Is it viable to use securerandom to mitigate seed reversing?

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 4:56 AM

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Deja vu moment rieBigBrainThinking

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 4:56 AM

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to what?

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 5:00 AM

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daring laurel to what?

I replied to you above

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:01 AM

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I saw but I was hoping for more opinions and to see if anyone has done it

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 5:01 AM

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Well there's always a way around something

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But it's much better then just using Random

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What are you trying to do?

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:06 AM

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Just curious if this could fix the problem of reversing seed to xray

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 5:06 AM

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In Minecraft?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/technicalminecraft/comments/7idgzx/seed_reverse_engineering_survey_of_approaches_and/

r/technicalminecraft - Seed reverse Engineering -- Survey of approa...

22 votes and 15 comments so far on Reddit

limber knotBOT Jun 9, 2022, 5:07 AM

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(DiscordBot) Seed reverse Engineering -- Survey of approaches and a... : technicalminecraft - 15 comments, 25 points - osmotischen, 4y ago

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:12 AM

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It looks like the person that started the PolyMC fork quit and other people took over to try to make it in to a real separate thing instead of just MultiMC plus a couple things MultiMC asked them not to do

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Oh and they may be rewriting it in rust?

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:12 AM

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guys i put my plugin on production and it didnt work and now i have 5 ppl mad at me what do

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 5:12 AM

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test before putting it in prod

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:12 AM

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why

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 5:13 AM

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so people dont get mad at you

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:13 AM

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my firned said to never QA software just put it on prod dont think

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:13 AM

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They're just trolling

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:13 AM

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no fr i pissed of 5 people because i put my hello world plugin on server and it failed at that

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apparently you need to "specify a class"

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these spigot guys i swear

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haha i love java

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the only language that doesnt make my head hurt besides C#. Unlike javascript which is used by insane people to accomplish ridiculous tasks

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"Yes I like dynamically typed languages how could you tell?"

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:15 AM

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javascript just feels very flexible, I don't understand the hate

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:15 AM

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well thats makes it so hard when working with APIs

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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theres .d.ts files that allow you to get typings if thats what you're into

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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discord.js nearly gave me an anuerysm because its really hard to figure out the typing of anything

upbeat falconBOT Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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TypeScript: JavaScript With Syntax For Types.

https://www.typescriptlang.org/

TypeScript is JavaScript with syntax for types. ... TypeScript is a strongly typed programming language that builds on JavaScript, giving you better tooling at ...

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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yeah i looked at that i prob should have set it up

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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Never use JavaScript, use that

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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but i think u have to manually define it

eager orbit Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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jovial dust the only language that doesnt make my head hurt besides C#. Unlike javascript wh...

Ngl, you might like lua
Not that there’s any reason to learn it

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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for each variable

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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jovial dust discord.js nearly gave me an anuerysm because its really hard to figure out the ...

it's really not that hard once you get into it

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:16 AM

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upbeat falcon

typescript usually leads people to write overcomplicated code in my experience

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any time people have the opportunity to overcomplicate something in ts, they will usually do it

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 AM

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all i wanted to do was make a bot that pushed pinned messages to another channel and I nearly starved and died

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 AM

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How long does paper updates usually take?

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 AM

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ban him

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 AM

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me?

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 AM

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jk

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 AM

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jovial dust all i wanted to do was make a bot that pushed pinned messages to another channel...

its really not that hard, but theres a discord bot lib for every important lang at this point

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 AM

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its coming soon™️

eager orbit Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 AM

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daring laurel any time people have the opportunity to overcomplicate something in ts, they wil...

I mean, the same can be said about basically any language that supports OOP

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 5:18 AM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:18 AM

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the devs get mad when you ask for etas @rough prairie

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you better count your days

timber ice Jun 9, 2022, 5:18 AM

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hate the player not the game

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:18 AM

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Oh

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I just joined this server

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:18 AM

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lesss gooooo

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:18 AM

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eager orbit I mean, the same can be said about basically any language that supports OOP

yep, don't I know after trying to make anything simple in java :>

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almost anything in 10 lines in js, requires atleast 2-3x as many lines in java

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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Idk i just struggle with keeping track of types

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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(if not more just for the boilerplate)

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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also the way i code (like an idiot) i kind of learn by autocomplete

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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discord.js is like half written in TypeScript

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It should already have types for things

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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it is now, but its not in the stable release

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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lol so i was just doing js like a dumbass

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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what does paper even do

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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the stable release was using javascript with typescript definition files

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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ive never heard of it

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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rough prairie what does paper even do

like 500 patches for stuf

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 AM

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rough prairie ive never heard of it

why are you here then

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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performance enchancements and more customization

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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daring laurel why are you here then

to find out what it is

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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Shipping their own definition files is the same thing as being written in typescript as far as you care for using it

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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plus lighting engine rewrites and other stuff like that

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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i joined a smp and its not starting till this is updated so i was j curious

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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just use spigot honestly

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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jovial dust performance enchancements and more customization

oh

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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oh ur not owner

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just tell him to use spigot lol

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its not the end of the world

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upgrade literally tommorow

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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magic river Shipping their own definition files is the same thing as being written in typesc...

yeah, it's definitely typed, but I understand why people would get confused using discord.js, I ❤️ implicit behavior

void void Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 AM

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Have you seen spigots performance?

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:21 AM

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📉

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:21 AM

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i havent used it in a hot minute tbh

eager orbit Jun 9, 2022, 5:21 AM

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rough prairie i joined a smp and its not starting till this is updated so i was j curious

Thats probably because they are using something like BungeeGuard on waterfall, which only supports paper for 1.9+

rough prairie Jun 9, 2022, 5:21 AM

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eager orbit Thats probably because they are using something like BungeeGuard on waterfall, w...

oh

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:21 AM

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i am going to assume it is marginally worse

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:21 AM

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Like, a dependency written in TypeScript and a dependency written in JavaScript but shipping their own .d.ts files will look identical to you when you depend on them, you just get a bunch of .js and .d.ts files either way

spare venture Jun 9, 2022, 5:22 AM

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there is a reason 90% of servers on 1.18 use paper

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:22 AM

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wait so i can import their definitions into vs code and it will give me types?

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:22 AM

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Oh, if the library is just too much magic that can be a pain no matter what language you're using

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:22 AM

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jovial dust wait so i can import their definitions into vs code and it will give me types?

it should be automatic

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:22 AM

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brainy hurty. I gotta research this more.

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:22 AM

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magic river Oh, if the library is just too much magic that can be a pain no matter what lang...

refer to my earlier statement about people loving to overcomplicate typescript

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it's just... yeah

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:23 AM

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Ay... if it works... it works

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Future maintainers cope

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:23 AM

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They have like 4 maintainers, and soo many people making prs for every new discord api feature

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:23 AM

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BEAUTY PLS VERY IMPORTANT @tropic cove games

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:23 AM

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What do you mean? TypeScript is easy to understand 😄

export type IntersectionResult<T extends AnyType, K extends AnyType> =
  //
  T extends ObjectType<any>
    ? K extends ObjectType<any>
      ? ObjectIntersection<T, K>
      : IntersectionType<T, K>
    : T extends ArrayType<any>
    ? K extends ArrayType<any>
      ? ArrayIntersection<T, K>
      : IntersectionType<T, K>
    : T extends TupleType<any>
    ? K extends TupleType<any>
      ? TupleIntersection<T, K>
      : IntersectionType<T, K>
    : T extends MTypeClass<any, any>
    ? never
    : K extends MTypeClass<any, any>
    ? never
    : IntersectionType<T, K>;

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:23 AM

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fuck

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i ping epic games

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see im like the github guy mb'

eager orbit Jun 9, 2022, 5:24 AM

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daring laurel They have like 4 maintainers, and soo many people making prs for every new disco...

ngl, trying to work with discord.js reminds me of the time I tried to learn tensor flow, but not quite as bad

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:24 AM

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magic river What do you mean? TypeScript is easy to understand 😄 ```ts export type Intersec...

https://github.com/discordjs/discord.js/blob/e3cbd45e7de069432818148b9dedda03f630f9f7/typings/index.d.ts#L575

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:25 AM

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magic river What do you mean? TypeScript is easy to understand 😄 ```ts export type Intersec...

i couldnt dream of understanding anything this accomplishes

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is this imports???

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 5:25 AM

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magic river What do you mean? TypeScript is easy to understand 😄 ```ts export type Intersec...

I love conditional typing

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:25 AM

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no, its just an intersection type

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:25 AM

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daring laurel https://github.com/discordjs/discord.js/blob/e3cbd45e7de069432818148b9dedda03f63...

Not that way I'd do it but that's not that bad

eager orbit Jun 9, 2022, 5:26 AM

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daring laurel https://github.com/discordjs/discord.js/blob/e3cbd45e7de069432818148b9dedda03f63...

Im sorry what
all I understood was boolean

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:26 AM

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I'd have a base type that just wouldn't have the fields at all on the else/false side of that

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:26 AM

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https://github.com/discordjs/discord.js/blob/e3cbd45e7de069432818148b9dedda03f630f9f7/typings/index.d.ts#L2340

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:26 AM

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imma open source my hello world plugin

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the FOSS world needs to see this

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:26 AM

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Nothing in there looks bad at all

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:27 AM

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yeah ig

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:27 AM

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I mean, I'm not a huge fan of defining types in terms of a field (or worse, tuple position) of some other type but it makes sense to do it sometimes

daring laurel Jun 9, 2022, 5:28 AM

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thats fair

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:32 AM

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I generally consider that a code smell but I'm biased because that's how our legacy TypeScript stuff looks, written by people who were just picking up the language, aren't great programmers, and seemed to think the types did runtime validation so tried to lock them down and cross reference them as much as possible

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:32 AM

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lol

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 5:33 AM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:33 AM

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Those type definitions break in some way every TS upgrade, usually because they were actually wrong to begin with but TS wasn't smart enough to figure that out before

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:33 AM

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i get it now @warm anchor

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why did it autofill

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:33 AM

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Like, they had stuff in there that, after you peeled off all the layers, resolved to string & number unconditionally

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Which is just never, btw

spiral robin Jun 9, 2022, 5:35 AM

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magic river I generally consider that a code smell but I'm biased because that's how our leg...

PepeLa

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:38 AM

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[22:37:53 INFO]: [RattaCore] Enabling RattaCore v1.0
[22:37:53 INFO]: [RattaCore] Hello im babey

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it has life...

grave quail Jun 9, 2022, 5:39 AM

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what does everyone use for console?

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:41 AM

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grave quail what does everyone use for console?

wym

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 5:41 AM

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gnome-terminal, bash, starship

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 5:41 AM

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lol

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yeah i ran my server on bare metal

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just ssh

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if you are a freak of nature and want to use "docker" and "virtualization" and "security" then use pterodactyl

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 5:45 AM

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yeah I just use plain docker and docker compose instead of throwing pterodactyl in front

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my terminal stuff is zsh and p10k, and then kitty on my regular computer which has a GUI obviously

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 5:48 AM

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lilac moon yeah I just use plain docker and docker compose instead of throwing pterodactyl ...

with Debian as the host, and doing stuff over ssh

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 5:49 AM

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jovial dust if you are a freak of nature and want to use "docker" and "virtualization" and "...

errrr

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first of all docker is not virtualization

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pterodactyl doesn't really provide extra security, but rather an extra attack surface

hollow hedge Jun 9, 2022, 5:50 AM

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I just have docker 2_PeepoShrug pterodactyl seemed like extra work for no reason

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 5:50 AM

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yeah I don't use docker for virtualization, I just like the container stuff and also I can link it all in a virtual network super easy without having to hardcode IP addresses

warm anchor Jun 9, 2022, 5:50 AM

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I run MC on screen rieagent

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 5:50 AM

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Docker compose because I use it for everything else as well, not just mc

coarse lily Jun 9, 2022, 5:53 AM

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warm anchor I run MC on screen <:rieagent:899522875151761409>

Sssshhhh Michael will hear you

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 5:53 AM

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I personally use docker compose, pterodactyl if someone else begs for it

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 5:54 AM

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warm anchor I run MC on screen <:rieagent:899522875151761409>

angery

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go to sleep

lilac zephyr Jun 9, 2022, 5:54 AM

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docker-compose down

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 5:54 AM

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lilac moon yeah I don't use docker for virtualization, I just like the container stuff and ...

wait until the DNS just goes down for no reason

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 6:00 AM

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lavish compass wait until the DNS just goes down for no reason

well idk how that would happen, other then if dockerd went down, but then the containers would all go down anyways

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 6:01 AM

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lilac zephyr docker-compose down

use docker compose v2 docker compose down :wholesome:

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 6:02 AM

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tbh never had that happening to me but I've heard some stories about coredns going crazy on k8s

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 6:05 AM

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well fortunately I'm not crazy enogub to use k8s yet

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:06 AM

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warm anchor I run MC on screen <:rieagent:899522875151761409>

tmux > screen

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I run my server as a systemd service inside of tmux

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It’s an abomination

lilac zephyr Jun 9, 2022, 6:08 AM

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lilac moon use docker compose v2 `docker compose down` :wholesome:

Our legacy system wont boot with docker compose v2 :(

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 6:08 AM

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wtf

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 6:08 AM

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how

lilac zephyr Jun 9, 2022, 6:08 AM

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No one have had the time to solve it so we all just stick with the v1 when locally developing hah

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 6:09 AM

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That reminds me, I need to fix my nginx config or switch to something else

lilac zephyr Jun 9, 2022, 6:10 AM

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lilac moon well fortunately I'm not crazy enogub to use k8s yet

K8s would be nice but it costs so much if u want it on aws/azure/other cloud platform

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 6:10 AM

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I use watchtower to autoupdate instead of letting my CI pipeline ssh in to the server but sometimes that restarts the nginx container before the node one has finished starting and then nginx fails to start because the proxy config is considered invalid due to DNS resolution failure

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:11 AM

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magic river That reminds me, I need to fix my nginx config or switch to something else

Caddy

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 6:11 AM

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I can "fix" it by making it do the resolution every request instead (with caching)

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 6:11 AM

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caddy is cool

lilac moon Jun 9, 2022, 6:11 AM

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magic river I use watchtower to autoupdate instead of letting my CI pipeline ssh in to the s...

Maybe you need like depends_on in docker compose

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 6:12 AM

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I have it

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watchtower redeploys them in the right order it just doesn't wait long enough

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It's probably a watchtower bug but it only happens every few deploys and working around it is trivial so I'm also probably never going to find out 😄

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 6:16 AM

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Yu think u tough huh

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I ran prod mc server on root user

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:18 AM

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You’re an idiot if you do that

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 6:20 AM

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smoky cloud You’re an idiot if you do that

mb

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:38 AM

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why is papermc so good compared to bukkit ?

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:39 AM

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Bukkit is dead

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:40 AM

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spigot

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mb

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:40 AM

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Paper is generally better optimised

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:40 AM

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yea

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now let's hope it will come out today or tomowro

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:41 AM

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You’re going to be waiting a while for it to be stable

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:41 AM

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it will be still better than spigot

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:41 AM

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Probably

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:42 AM

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on my smp i litteraly oppenend a loot chest and all the server crashed

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:42 AM

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1nice

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 6:43 AM

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undersell

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paper got like 500 patches

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and new lighting engine n stuff

smoky cloud Jun 9, 2022, 6:43 AM

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Patch count is basically irrelevant

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Mirai has more

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:44 AM

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funny how devs stream all the coding

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 6:44 AM

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yatopia 👁️

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:44 AM

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people watching be like "OH MY GOD HE PUT A COMA"

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 6:44 AM

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idk its cool to watch

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dude is just soloing out a new config system

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:45 AM

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since it's open source everyone can technicaly help right ?

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 6:47 AM

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yeah but probably not now

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You can probably contribute mid release cycle

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if you create a patch that optimizes something

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then make a pull request and if its not awful they merge it into main branch

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or something idk

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:48 AM

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nice

jovial dust Jun 9, 2022, 6:48 AM

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git is cool

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 6:48 AM

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yes

hybrid thicket Jun 9, 2022, 7:05 AM

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I farted

plucky canopy Jun 9, 2022, 7:05 AM

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can I upgrade my server directly from 1.18.2 to 1.19, or should I start a new one

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I don't know if that update is too big of a jump

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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youcan update

plucky canopy Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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hybrid thicket I farted

oh.

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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ou'll just don't have the ancient city in loaded chunks

plucky canopy Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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yee

proper plover Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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meager otter youcan update

PaperMC 1.19 out ?

plucky canopy Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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new chunks are fine

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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proper plover PaperMC 1.19 out ?

no

plucky canopy Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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proper plover PaperMC 1.19 out ?

is it not? oops

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I havent checked yet

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aight nevermind then

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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no it's not

plucky canopy Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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Thanks

proper plover Jun 9, 2022, 7:06 AM

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Yeah

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 7:07 AM

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i don't know how to interpret the things in github dev

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i see things like "amost there just testing" but idk if it's just a small fix or the update itself

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 7:10 AM

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#❗ 1.19

wraith trail Jun 9, 2022, 7:11 AM

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meager otter i see things like "amost there just testing" but idk if it's just a small fix or...

that specific commit message is in relation to new config migration exclusively

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 7:11 AM

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yeah okay

hushed comet Jun 9, 2022, 7:39 AM

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guys is there 1.19 in the paper/bucket?

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 7:40 AM

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there is 1.19 spigot

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but not 1.19 paper yet

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i hope it will come soon

hushed comet Jun 9, 2022, 7:41 AM

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me too :>

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 7:48 AM

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we've been working nonstop on it for the last ~40 hours

fathom fog Jun 9, 2022, 7:49 AM

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mental meadow we've been working nonstop on it for the last ~40 hours

Zamn, after paper 1.19 drops hope y'all take a break

vagrant marlin Jun 9, 2022, 7:52 AM

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zero breaks

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kenny works 24/7

lone steppe Jun 9, 2022, 8:00 AM

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fathom fog Zamn, after paper 1.19 drops hope y'all take a break

lol yea till next update

grim token Jun 9, 2022, 8:26 AM

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mental meadow we've been working nonstop on it for the last ~40 hours

Holy shit y’all better treat yourselves and take a good long break

meager otter Jun 9, 2022, 8:32 AM

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Yeah take a break after that

vagrant marlin Jun 9, 2022, 8:34 AM

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untold meadow Jun 9, 2022, 8:46 AM

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vagrant marlin

@twin lagoon ????

chrome quest Jun 9, 2022, 8:48 AM

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Do cookies get sent with get requests?

void void Jun 9, 2022, 9:04 AM

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Yes

desert epoch Jun 9, 2022, 9:05 AM

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is paper.iptables.sh still up lol

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 9:16 AM

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should be

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 9:36 AM

#

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Maybe Kalleswe should be contributing to paper since he thinks stuff should just "be done already" and "just fix it"

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 9:37 AM

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being an entitled arse is much more rewarding on a per-effort basis

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 9:37 AM

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lmao

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Someone sent me the first issue with 1.19 and I had to go look if he had been a dumbass before and he indeed had

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 9:38 AM

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Is that actually the same person? It said "First issue" :C

signal harbor Jun 9, 2022, 9:40 AM

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abstract aspen

how can we ban someone from paper

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 9:44 AM

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mental meadow Is that actually the same person? It said "First issue" :C

The two others were comments on others issues

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 9:45 AM

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ah i see

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 10:05 AM

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magic river Sodium is faster than optifine and has a 1.19 build

I don’t wana installl 25 mods to do what one can do

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:07 AM

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I mean, OF just mostly seems to be on life support

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if you wanna go the lazy route, you do you

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but, like, the fabric ecosystem has some pretty nice tools and such

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:14 AM

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golden gust I mean, OF just mostly seems to be on life support

OF stopped meaning optifine for me a while ago.
Now it just seems inappropriate every time I see someone say it like that 😂

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 10:15 AM

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@untold meadow best kezz

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:15 AM

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molten egret I don’t wana installl 25 mods to do what one can do

You don't need 25 you need like a handful at most and less if you don't want shaders or connected textures.

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:17 AM

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I assume someone already made a self updating modpack with all the perf mods?

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Probably not because it would be too easy. kekwhyper

vagrant marlin Jun 9, 2022, 10:18 AM

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abstract aspen OF stopped meaning optifine for me a while ago. Now it just seems inappropriate ...

yeah lol, i dont even associate OF with optifine

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:19 AM

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Well

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Still better than CoreProtect...

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:19 AM

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You mean CO?

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:20 AM

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I mean, that's a fun one

vagrant marlin Jun 9, 2022, 10:20 AM

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nah, not CO

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cp

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🧐

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:20 AM

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Like, that's part of the fun, people who've used the thing refer to it by the name of the command, because like, you know

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:20 AM

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Daily VIA BS: https://posili.me/i/adCaMJCK-2022-06-09_12-20-16.png

#

kekwhyper

vagrant marlin Jun 9, 2022, 10:20 AM

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my server is fked too

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by me

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🥸

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 10:22 AM

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I did not have sexual relations with this server

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:23 AM

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Plugin isn't working.
Dump shows Plugman.
I restarted the server!
How?
/reload

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:23 AM

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kek

#

KRUSIC

#

PLZ FIX OR AM DED UR CAT

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:25 AM

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That reminds me... where is DED?

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:25 AM

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@worn ember ya dad

worn ember Jun 9, 2022, 10:25 AM

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hmmGe

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:26 AM

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Good.

worn ember Jun 9, 2022, 10:26 AM

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I decided to get a life

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:26 AM

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Okay, now we're done with you

worn ember Jun 9, 2022, 10:26 AM

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kbye

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:26 AM

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doubt

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:26 AM

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See you again next week

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 10:26 AM

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golden gust but, like, the fabric ecosystem has some pretty nice tools and such

unfortunately that's where it excels only, the nice content-wise modpacks are in Forge

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and then you have to use Optifine in Forge if you want shaders because Shaders Mod is no more :D

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:27 AM

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o o f

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 10:27 AM

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it's been like that for a long time

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i can't even find the shaders mod website anymore

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 10:28 AM

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abstract aspen You don't need 25 you need like a handful at most and less if you don't want sha...

But I do, I don’t really need the fps boost (I got a 2070). I have noticed that optifine makes the lower fps less noticeable. Also I got an optifine cape :D

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 10:29 AM

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you can always like, disable all the Optifine stuff except for shaders ig ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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but I wonder what will pop up if Optifine dies

#

there was some dude porting IrisShaders to Forge but there are no usable builds yet

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:30 AM

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Well, ☕ could probably just be directly mapped to the Vanilla jar?

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:30 AM

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Yea, it's part of the joys with any new ecosystem is that all of the existing stuff is elsewhere

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:31 AM

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And making things X-compatible is a big no no.

tropic flame Jun 9, 2022, 10:32 AM

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yeah

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:33 AM

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mental meadow *I did not have sexual relations with this server*

Is that why your fan was all wobbly?

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 10:34 AM

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i ordered a new one btw

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:34 AM

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molten egret But I do, I don’t really need the fps boost (I got a 2070). I have noticed that ...

Better performance means you can limit your fps and use less power so you save money on your power bill.
Electricity is expensive atm!
Also at that point you can say you're an environmentally conscious gamer.

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 10:34 AM

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and now obviously my fan is suddenly super quiet :D

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:35 AM

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mental meadow i ordered a new one btw

happy I could help lmao.

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lowkey just didn't want to hear the minigun when I watch the streams lul

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 10:35 AM

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meowhearthug

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:35 AM

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desk fan goes brrt brrrt

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I'll give some money to the open collective fund too when I start to monetize my server

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I've been using paper stuff for way too long without actually donating anything

void void Jun 9, 2022, 10:36 AM

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abstract aspen lowkey just didn't want to hear the minigun when I watch the streams <:lul:80024...

Just imagine if it had ammo

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:36 AM

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void void Just imagine if it had ammo

Each tick of the fan is Kenny finishing another patch.

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:37 AM

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abstract aspen Better performance means you can limit your fps and use less power so you save m...

https://posili.me/i/QVkEk3GF-2022-06-09_12-36-32.png
https://posili.me/i/5YdrSDLb-2022-06-09_12-36-54.png

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Not really worth the 3W. kekwhyper

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:38 AM

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I very much doubt your entire system draws only 3w more when rendering over 60x the frames

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:38 AM

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That's GPU powerdraw.

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:39 AM

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I noticed that but Minecraft doesn't really use that a whole bunch tbh

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:41 AM

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Sadly can't look at the CPU power draw diff, due to it being reported as 1W, always. kekwhyper

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:42 AM

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lmao

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No table is basically just floor gang before floor gang was cool

little frost Jun 9, 2022, 10:43 AM

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sub to kennytvn with twitch prime so he can get this table back

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 10:46 AM

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abstract aspen Better performance means you can limit your fps and use less power so you save m...

If I was an environmentally conscious gamer I would be using an Xbox

meager tusk Jun 9, 2022, 10:46 AM

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@ashen cliff Krushiç.

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DM Support?

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:47 AM

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DM SUPPORT?

meager tusk Jun 9, 2022, 10:47 AM

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DM SUPPORT??

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:47 AM

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Da.

meager tusk Jun 9, 2022, 10:47 AM

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Good.

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Just wanted to know bro.

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 10:49 AM

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little frost sub to kennytvn with twitch prime so he can get this table back

What about his door?
He doesn't have a door!

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 10:51 AM

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Ngl the chat here is a wild ride xD

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Do you guys feed kenny human food or just slide scraps under the door while he codes? 😂

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:55 AM

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No expense is spared when it comes to food.

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 10:55 AM

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See now I'm just imagining him eating lobster

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:55 AM

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Only the finest leftovers for that man!

void void Jun 9, 2022, 10:55 AM

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spice plinth Do you guys feed kenny human food or just slide scraps under the door while he c...

Yes

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 10:56 AM

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still better than whatever cat gets to eat

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british food

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 10:56 AM

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Oh god no

viral hornet Jun 9, 2022, 10:56 AM

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literally stale canned food is what cat eats

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:56 AM

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We took over half the world for spices

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AND THEN DIDN'T FUCKING USE THEM

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 10:56 AM

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We took them all, tried them, went ew spicy, gave them back

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Welcome to the land where gravy is a seasoning

meager tusk Jun 9, 2022, 10:57 AM

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ashen cliff No expense is spared when it comes to food.

He is fed PAŠTETA ARGETA.

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:57 AM

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When I was younger, I had a huge fuck off chunk of meat from a curry my father got, must of had a spice cluster and didn't eat spicy foods for years after that

meager tusk Jun 9, 2022, 10:57 AM

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Fact.

viral hornet Jun 9, 2022, 10:57 AM

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The only good thing about poms are your accents

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🥵

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:57 AM

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Then, for some stupid ass reason, I had to speak to the muslim girl in my class at uni

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:57 AM

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meager tusk He is fed PAŠTETA ARGETA.

FACT!

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 10:57 AM

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reminds me

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https://twitter.com/timloehrs/status/1534452623247646721

Tim Löhrs (@timloehrs)

Deutsche: Ich koche ja auch gerne mal ein leckeres Curry.

Das leckere Curry:

Likes

4501

Retweets

101

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:58 AM

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Like, have you ever eaten at somebodies house, and then felt violated AF the next day?

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:58 AM

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https://posili.me/i/F6EuVTw6-2022-06-09_12-58-26.png

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What?

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 10:58 AM

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It's for you bruh

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I COULDA FUCKING SLEPT FOR LONGER

ashen cliff Jun 9, 2022, 10:59 AM

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kekwhyper

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Cat. Fix Waterfall builds. Thank you.

viral hornet Jun 9, 2022, 11:00 AM

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PM

abstract parrot Jun 9, 2022, 11:01 AM

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Why always paper and optifine are the last things updated?

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 11:01 AM

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Because paper is patched over the top of spigot

abstract parrot Jun 9, 2022, 11:01 AM

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I know

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 11:01 AM

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spigot being the bastion of an open source community refuses to release anything until after mojang releases

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So, they spend hundreds of hours working on it before we even get to see what they've done

abstract parrot Jun 9, 2022, 11:02 AM

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trade_deal

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I get it now

viral hornet Jun 9, 2022, 11:02 AM

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Excluding last year when md_5 actually released early builds and it was AMAZING for the community

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 11:02 AM

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He's done it like a handful of times over the years

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 11:02 AM

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We: working nonstop for the last 44 hours since the update was released to finish paper as fast as possible
People in Discord: WhY is PaPeR nOT reLeASEd yeT=?!?!?!?!?!?!?

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 11:03 AM

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generally seemingly as a quest to get people to contribute fixes to random shit

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I remember a few versions ago he literally held the release version hostage until people submitted fixes for shit

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:03 AM

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lmao

abstract parrot Jun 9, 2022, 11:04 AM

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mental meadow We: *working nonstop for the last 44 hours since the update was released to fini...

I know how hard you're working but as a normal member who didn't try to programs something like that idk how it works and you know even happens

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 11:04 AM

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which is why we are streaming pretty much everything, we just ask you to be patient and see #❗ 1.19 for updates

abstract parrot Jun 9, 2022, 11:05 AM

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Yea I see

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I could use spigot but paper is much better

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 11:05 AM

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vagrant marlin yeah lol, i dont even associate OF with optifine

Wait OF doesn't mean Open Firmware? 😄

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 11:06 AM

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OnlyFAmaranth

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:06 AM

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magic river Wait OF doesn't mean Open Firmware? 😄

Wait OF doesn’t mean Open Firewall?

magic river Jun 9, 2022, 11:06 AM

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Is that a thing?

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:06 AM

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No

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I use a fire wall

upbeat falconBOT Jun 9, 2022, 11:06 AM

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Open Firmware - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware

Open Firmware is a standard defining the interfaces of a computer firmware system, formerly endorsed by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics ...

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 11:07 AM

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spice plinth Do you guys feed kenny human food or just slide scraps under the door while he c...

You mean under the curtain?

little frost Jun 9, 2022, 11:07 AM

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papermc ~~opencollective~~ onlyfans

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:07 AM

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upbeat falcon

Eyyy my boi Sun made that

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I mean he’s dead now

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But still pretty poggers

grim token Jun 9, 2022, 11:08 AM

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It’s 7AM and my coworker isn’t here yet. End me FeelsWeirdMan

abstract parrot Jun 9, 2022, 11:08 AM

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mental meadow which is why we are streaming pretty much everything, we just ask you to be pati...

Anyways sorry for disturbing friendly_steve

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:18 AM

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paper 1.19 [no virus] french edition

📎 paper.class

abstract parrot Jun 9, 2022, 11:19 AM

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Yes.

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:19 AM

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It will keep people distracted for 10000 ms

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 11:19 AM

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Lol

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:20 AM

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I should’ve done the max integer

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 11:20 AM

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The fact that its 769B suggests that it's definitely a legit 1.19 build

rare python Jun 9, 2022, 11:20 AM

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Has paper-api and paperweight-userdev been updated yet?

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 11:21 AM

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No, there was still some changes being made which where apprehensive about pushing out to just break stuff

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I , brain, words, spelling, etc

rare python Jun 9, 2022, 11:21 AM

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Will there be a ping once its released?

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 11:22 AM

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not for dev bundles

rare python Jun 9, 2022, 11:22 AM

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:(

radiant fable Jun 9, 2022, 11:28 AM

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mental meadow We: *working nonstop for the last 44 hours since the update was released to fini...

Yeah its pretty annoying for you guys to see those msgs basically every 5mins, appreciate the work being done 🙏

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 11:36 AM

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Certainly is an impressive effort, worth backing on OC at least 3_hearts

vernal moth Jun 9, 2022, 11:36 AM

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Oh ffs, Map.of doesn't take null values

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Reeeeee

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 11:37 AM

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Lmfao

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:37 AM

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spice plinth The fact that its 769B suggests that it's definitely a legit 1.19 build

Mhm especially since all of the calls are to system.out and thread.sleep

earnest flame Jun 9, 2022, 11:37 AM

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taywait

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 11:37 AM

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molten egret Mhm especially since all of the calls are to system.out and thread.sleep

I wasn't brave enough to download it 😂

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:41 AM

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earnest flame <:taywait:904408848633323571>

O hi I haven’t seen you in a while

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:44 AM

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spice plinth I wasn't brave enough to download it 😂

It’s like roulette

earnest flame Jun 9, 2022, 11:45 AM

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molten egret O hi I haven’t seen you in a while

Greetings!

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 11:49 AM

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earnest flame Greetings!

Sup

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You awaiting paper?

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 11:50 AM

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heio

tender ibex Jun 9, 2022, 11:51 AM

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Paper 1.20 when

void void Jun 9, 2022, 11:52 AM

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tender ibex Paper 1.20 when

Lol

tender ibex Jun 9, 2022, 11:52 AM

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Lol

void void Jun 9, 2022, 11:52 AM

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1.19 latest

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1.20 never

tender ibex Jun 9, 2022, 11:52 AM

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Imagine if minecraft releases 2.0 with breaking changes

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💀

void void Jun 9, 2022, 11:53 AM

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.

earnest flame Jun 9, 2022, 11:54 AM

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molten egret You awaiting paper?

Yh

earnest flame Jun 9, 2022, 11:55 AM

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tender ibex Imagine if minecraft releases 2.0 with breaking changes

Wdym?

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There's dupe glitches for chest boats already

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💀

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💀

void void Jun 9, 2022, 11:55 AM

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And you have to buy it again

earnest flame Jun 9, 2022, 11:55 AM

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void void And you have to buy it again

Weeds out the poor

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 11:58 AM

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I've already bought it for Java, PC, Switch, PS4 and mobile how many more times I gotta buy Minecraft.....

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Although.pretty sure java cost me £3 or so during indev lol

velvet locust Jun 9, 2022, 12:00 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/856122853812600863.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

void void Jun 9, 2022, 12:01 PM

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Come on, faster kenny!

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Code speedrun

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:01 PM

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mental meadow We: *working nonstop for the last 44 hours since the update was released to fini...

Meanwhile I'm just in spain without the a

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https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-22379127

Tenor

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:01 PM

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earnest flame Yh

Try my “build” of “paper” just don’t worry why it’s a single class

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:02 PM

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RansomwareClass.java seems legit

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:02 PM

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No

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It’s paper.class

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Way more legit

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:04 PM

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legit.class

primal storm Jun 9, 2022, 12:15 PM

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Could I be unbanned from the test server? Everyone was griefing so I blew up and area in the spawn then I start placing bedrock so people wouldn't be able to grief it then I was banned for "play.2b2t.org"

#

vagrant marlin Jun 9, 2022, 12:16 PM

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must suck

primal storm Jun 9, 2022, 12:16 PM

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Sorry for griefing I won't do it again I just thought it was allowed because everyone else was

manic vapor Jun 9, 2022, 12:17 PM

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primal storm

gg

molten egret Jun 9, 2022, 12:17 PM

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primal storm

I thought it was just 2b2t.org

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 12:17 PM

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dunno whats your ign

primal storm Jun 9, 2022, 12:18 PM

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mental meadow dunno whats your ign

It's DoofusWorld

drifting aurora Jun 9, 2022, 12:18 PM

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primal storm

Next time just say "oh, I accidentally connected to the wrong server, I though this is 2b2t"

dry horizon Jun 9, 2022, 12:20 PM

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/eta

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:23 PM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

daring dune Jun 9, 2022, 12:25 PM

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The race:
Paper vs Optifine
Who will release first 😼

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My money's on Paper

rare python Jun 9, 2022, 12:25 PM

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Sodium is better then Optifine.

daring dune Jun 9, 2022, 12:25 PM

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But I want my cape

dusty crane Jun 9, 2022, 12:26 PM

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Where did keeny gone?

tacit vapor Jun 9, 2022, 12:26 PM

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imagine paying for a cape that only shows for people who use optifine

drifting aurora Jun 9, 2022, 12:26 PM

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daring dune My money's on Paper

Put mine on paper too

tacit vapor Jun 9, 2022, 12:26 PM

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kinda sad tbh

daring dune Jun 9, 2022, 12:26 PM

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Well

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Maybe in 2022 sure

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But Me and many others bought it years ago when it was only optifine

drifting aurora Jun 9, 2022, 12:27 PM

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dry horizon /eta

There will never ever be a ETA for any kind of Paper releases.

daring dune Jun 9, 2022, 12:27 PM

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And optifine is still very popular

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I think Lunar uses it too

mental meadow Jun 9, 2022, 12:30 PM

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tacit vapor imagine paying for a cape that only shows for people who use optifine

directly violates the Commercial Usage Guidelines from Mojang

spice plinth Jun 9, 2022, 12:34 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/no-capes-gif-8052678

Tenor

velvet garden Jun 9, 2022, 12:34 PM

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lmao wtf is issue #7906, like honestly

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not sure if it's a joke or not

true canyon Jun 9, 2022, 12:38 PM

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It very well could be serious. There are lots of entitled people on the internet with an expectation of instant gratification.

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 12:45 PM

#

#

how

golden gust Jun 9, 2022, 12:45 PM

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#PrematureIssues

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 12:45 PM

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primal storm Could I be unbanned from the test server? Everyone was griefing so I blew up and...

no if i banned someone for play.2b2t.org it'll likely be because of hacked client usage and being annoying because of it

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 12:46 PM

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I want to make a Kenny

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but I do not have time

cunning raft Jun 9, 2022, 12:46 PM

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@twin lagoon could I be unbanned from the test server

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 12:46 PM

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eitherway, unbanned

primal solar Jun 9, 2022, 12:52 PM

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daring dune I think Lunar uses it too

Lunar is not going to prove anything is good lol

radiant horizon Jun 9, 2022, 12:53 PM

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facts

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:54 PM

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daring dune But I want my cape

just install the cape mod

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https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/capes

robust nova Jun 9, 2022, 12:55 PM

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Is 1.19 still available, why can't I see the notification 1.19

crystal lilyBOT Jun 9, 2022, 12:55 PM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

pallid grove Jun 9, 2022, 12:55 PM

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hows the development of 1.19?

grim island Jun 9, 2022, 12:55 PM

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1.19 does not exist, it was never an update, you're dreaming, wake up

pallid grove Jun 9, 2022, 12:55 PM

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i cant see any streamer

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:55 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/kennytvn

Twitch

kennytvn - Twitch

Turning the world upsidedown.

▶ Play video

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idk if he is live rn

robust nova Jun 9, 2022, 12:55 PM

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grim island 1.19 does not exist, it was never an update, you're dreaming, wake up

???

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:56 PM

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if not he will prolly be later

grim island Jun 9, 2022, 12:56 PM

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no

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#the-silents message

pallid grove Jun 9, 2022, 12:56 PM

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i see

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:57 PM

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grim island https://discord.com/channels/289587909051416579/657736261662015489/9844340203162...

this isn't a no

robust nova Jun 9, 2022, 12:57 PM

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so there will be no paper 1.19??

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:57 PM

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?!???

signal harbor Jun 9, 2022, 12:57 PM

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bruh

lavish compass Jun 9, 2022, 12:57 PM

#

.

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:57 PM

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robust nova so there will be no paper 1.19??

You're right there will be no paper 1.19 it's discontinued just now

slender surge Jun 9, 2022, 12:57 PM

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robust nova so there will be no paper 1.19??

1.17 just came out, we wont have 1.19 for a while

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 12:57 PM

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love this chat

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combined brain capacity of a frog

slender surge Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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I think 1.19 is coming out some time in 2022

robust nova Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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abstract aspen You're right there will be no paper 1.19 it's discontinued just now

sad

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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You have to use Mirai the superior server software

slender surge Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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But 2022 is a few years away

sacred veldt Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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twin lagoon combined brain capacity of a frog

Tho, you don't have to insult frogs

slender surge Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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did anyone hear about some weird virus in wuhan? im sure it'll be nothing

signal harbor Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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nah i didnt

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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robust nova sad

https://github.com/etil2jz/Mirai

GitHub

GitHub - etil2jz/Mirai: Mirai 未来 - A powerful Minecraft Server Soft...

Mirai 未来 - A powerful Minecraft Server Software coming from the future - GitHub - etil2jz/Mirai: Mirai 未来 - A powerful Minecraft Server Software coming from the future

robust nova Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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what that

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

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It's server software from the future!

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 12:58 PM

#

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:59 PM

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Look at the text

grim island Jun 9, 2022, 12:59 PM

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abstract aspen https://github.com/etil2jz/Mirai

is this yatopia all over again

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 12:59 PM

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yes

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:59 PM

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No it's worse

grim island Jun 9, 2022, 12:59 PM

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how can you get worse

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a

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 12:59 PM

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Anyway

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I have some code to do

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brb

void void Jun 9, 2022, 12:59 PM

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twin lagoon

LOL

robust nova Jun 9, 2022, 1:00 PM

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so they developed 1.19 failed and now there won't be 1.19 huh

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 1:00 PM

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my brother in christ

robust nova Jun 9, 2022, 1:00 PM

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forever?

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 1:00 PM

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just read #❗ 1.19

regal mural Jun 9, 2022, 1:01 PM

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mrfloris a bum

twin lagoon Jun 9, 2022, 1:01 PM

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paper 1.19 will come out when it's ready

slender surge Jun 9, 2022, 1:01 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/that-was-sarcasm-anti-mixtape-i-was-being-sarcastic-i-wasnt-serious-gif-24122833

Tenor

abstract aspen Jun 9, 2022, 1:01 PM

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robust nova so they developed 1.19 failed and now there won't be 1.19 huh

Yep. No one can match the brilliance of MD5