#general
vernal moth
ivory light
that was fast lol
golden gust
I mean, for us
void void
frogs can croak
mental meadow
charred sleet
https://i.imgur.com/OeqQK1D.png
lmfao
rare python
Is kenny gonna stream the update again?
charred sleet
kenny is banned
visual egret
wasn’t that minis stream?
void void
multiple people streamed last time
mental meadow
Mini has promised to do hangar instead
he will be banned from touching the Paper repo
wet storm
yeah, hangar
visual egret
let’s hope it releases soon
rare python
What will release first Minecraft 1.20 or Hangar. My bets on 1.20
cursive sundial
https://tenor.com/view/csgo-banging-table-angry-mad-rage-quit-gif-17478101 After people ask for a 1.19 ETA
void void
^
visual egret
yeah probably 1.20
vernal moth
he will be banned from touching the Paper repo
thats prolly for the better 😄
visual egret
not yet
vernal moth
I don't think I did an mc update yet where I didn't broke stuff 😄
mental meadow
I'll stand by it, people joking about "people asking for eta" are now more annoying then people asking for eta
wet storm
thats prolly for the better 😄
mobgoals api additions wen?
worthy geode
1.20 should be December or something judging by their past releases, so yeah, seems likely
visual egret
isn’t it earlier?
vernal moth
I'll stand by it, people joking about "people asking for eta" are now more annoy...
I don't mind issuing kicks for that too
or warns or whatever
rare python
I'll stand by it, people joking about "people asking for eta" are now more annoy...
Does that mean I should ask for ETAs now instead of joking about people asking?
vernal moth
whats the lowest level we have?
full rune
kenny stream hype
cursive sundial
paper 1.19 will release in 69 years everytime someone askes it gets increased by another 69 years
dire trench
I don't mind issuing kicks for that too
I joined just to see this happen lol
rare python
When Kenny streams spam his chat with "remember to rebase"
worthy geode
Does that mean I should ask for ETAs now instead of joking about people asking?
You could ask about people joking over people asking for ETAs
void void
voice channel text chats are going to be fun to moderate
charred sleet
whats the lowest level we have?
iritation
void void
especially since you can't see whether there's a new message
worthy geode
Just disable them 
vernal moth
man, modmuss with the 7minute release time
I can't wait till we get to that level too
wet storm
Life is too short to code in patches lol
void void
better finish hangar then!
vital mural
hi aurorra
mental meadow
stalker
rare python
Does that mean I should ask for ETAs now instead of joking about people asking?
Paper 1.19 when?
mental meadow
!kick @rare python ETA annoying
vagrant marlin
we are aware that 1.19 out. thank 😃
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked PeterCrawley#8651 (ETA annoying) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
mental meadow
i mean
rare python
My bus is 1 minute late.
vital mural
actually deserved
vital mural
cant wait to use swiftsneak never
visual egret
My bus is 1 minute late.
and my train is on time ☺️
vital mural
cant wait to use swiftsneak never
its never practical outside of deep dark
novel horizon
Nice, but it is still annoying anyway, so
golden gust
I mean, that joke has been dead since like, 1.12
rare python
My bus is now 3 minutes late.
brave mountain
paper github go brr
void void
is there a spigot github i can monitor?
cosmic raft
Asking for an ETA is asking to be muted/kicked/etc.
charred sleet
is there a spigot github i can monitor?
charred sleet
lmfao
void void
in case you're stuck in 2010
rare python
RSS is dead
visual egret
why does minecraft have HRTF audio now exactly?
HRTF?
charred sleet
is that a spigot specific or just cause bit bucket
void void
no, spigot specific
rare python
RSS is dead
I never used it, but it seems like it was a cool idea.
charred sleet
ew
visual egret
hasn’t it always had that?
rare python
My bus is 4 minutes late
vagrant marlin
hasn’t it always had that?
clearly not
vagrant marlin
this sounds horrible
visual egret
My bus is 4 minutes late
which bus
vagrant marlin
i see no reason for anyone to use this
mossy vessel
Imagine having a Jenkins acting as RSS feed instead of just building it on stash lol
worthy geode
Isn't it nice for headphones?
void void
id guess theyd implement it for detecting wardens? or somethin
limber knotBOT
imagine using teh rss feed of jenkins instead of directly using the stash api
rare python
It's now 5 minutes late
limber knotBOT
(or the stash rss feed)
visual egret
is it like TfL?
vernal moth
TIL there are 2600 servers following #announcements
visual egret
I am 2 of those
void void
could rename that to 1.19 now that the limits are gone
mental meadow
109 if the insights are to be believed
worthy geode
Busy updating Spigot
vagrant marlin
dont have any complaints about client performance
(vanilla btw)
must be pretty bad in singleplayer though
rare python
I am now on bus
rare python
Bus was 10 minutes late
cosmic raft
could rename that to 1.19 now that the limits are gone
?
worthy geode
Only the Server-Side naming limits are gone apparently
So you need to use the API to rename it
void void
and on the android app
ashen cliff
wonder what game breaking bug will be found on day one
Watch them pull a silent update again. 
cosmic raft
what limits
worthy geode
Not on my android app 😦
void void
channel name
vagrant marlin
Watch them pull a silent update again. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
and change the client id at the same time
kek
void void
you can now do stuff like this
wet storm
Bus was 10 minutes late
get a taxi then
shadow slate
where 1.19
worthy geode
Discord text channel names
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
worthy geode
where 1.19
In Stockholm at Mojang
cosmic raft
ah
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
primal solar
you can now do stuff like this
since when?
mental meadow
!kick @shadow slate Stop asking for ETAs, the answer will not change
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked WojtekPlay#3466 (Stop asking for ETAs, the answer will not change) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
primal solar
In Stockholm at Mojang
but but, its on my pc too
void void
is your pc in mojang's hq by any chance?
primal solar
maybe
autumn belfry
mojang hasnt even updated the site for the 1.19 vanilla server jar lol
warm anchor
omg aurora too fast 
I was coping his ID
golden gust
mythical man hour
brave mountain
just chilling
worthy geode
Im pretty happy about mojangs update speed, I also need to keep up with updating my stuff after all
vernal moth
please just don't talk about this if you have no real world experience, you make yourselfd look like a clown
vagrant marlin
why cant mojang just code faster?? i made my essentialsx clone in only 2 months (with /home and /fly)
what is taking them so long
worthy geode
No
limber knotBOT
who downloads the server from the website? just use the launcher 
worthy geode
I'm well aware of that. We maintain our own fork
wet storm
omg aurora too fast <:riesad:785882958820671508> I was coping his ID
no napping is allowed for discord mods, when you received this role your age increased in like 10x times.
worthy geode
So I need to wait for paper to update, and then either for pufferfish or throw that out for some time. And then I need to update the fork.
And if Mojang was updating more often than twice a year that would get quite stressful
void void
haa haa hee hee
tawny trench
will there be coding (discord)streams again for paper 1.19?
mental meadow
probably
https://www.twitch.tv/PaperPowered will probably not stream directly but host the people that stream, so check it every now and then
tropic flame
:raised_hands: Kicked ``WojtekPlay#3466`` (``Stop asking for ETAs, the answer wi...
they always ask what the ETA is, they never ask how the ETA is 😔
topaz mortar
please just don't talk about this if you have no real world experience, you make...
Yeah it's like mult threading. At some point the synchronization issue (mr, review, rebase) is to big.
worthy geode
Just run every entity on its own thread smh
true canyon
they always ask what the ETA is, they never ask how the ETA is 😔
Why is ETA?
twin lagoon
why is @true canyon
true canyon
why is <@71627708521512960>
🥺
twin lagoon
🥺
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
slender surge
What's the point of killing the warden?
void void
there isn't
slender surge
is a catalyst really that useful?
worthy geode
It's dead after killing it
slender surge
just seems like a griefing tool to me lol
slender surge
It's dead after killing it
they'll respawn if you set off a sculk shrieker again
Kinda a disapointing boss
frank otter
isn't the entire idea to not bother killing it
worthy geode
So you can kill it again. Seems like plenty of gameplay to me
slender surge
lol
worthy geode
But imo the entire vanilla mob combat is pretty boring anyways so whatever
mild summit
The warden isn’t a boss though?
undone blade
Good afternoon folks
mild summit
I don’t think it gets the boss bar like the others though - could be wrong of course. I’m out and not in Minecraft right now
worthy geode
But that might be because it doesn't really fit into the spooky, dark, mysterious theme if it has a visible health bar
rare python
You only just now realized
undone blade
Did someone say bossbar o.o
native wolf
I see the Warden as a mini boss, like the Elder Guardian
void void
Me waiting for 1.19
rare python
How long until Sciath makes his way here?
primal kraken
I see the Warden as a mini boss, like the Elder Guardian
Except they tried as hard as they could to make it unkillable
primal kraken
How long until Sciath makes his way here?
Who knows lol
coral comet
How long until Sciath makes his way here?
After he is done playing code jenga.
coral comet
I should go asking for 1.19 plugins to be coded without 1.19 released :D
worthy geode
Did someone say bossbar o.o
Imagine not using it to put UI in the corners 👀
primal kraken
It’s still op
They make it bypass literally every damage reduction afaik, could be wrong
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
primal kraken
They make it bypass literally every damage reduction afaik, could be wrong
Ik it at least bypasses armor
coral comet
Peter quick! The ETA counter!
ripe sphinx
~~I should go asking for 1.19 plugins to be coded without 1.19 released :D~~
spare the poor developers the pain and suffering of doing that pls
native wolf
Imagine not using it to put UI in the corners 👀
you are a genius
mild summit
But that might be because it doesn't really fit into the spooky, dark, mysteriou...
Troo
golden gust
Read.
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
worthy geode
you are a genius
It's very genius until you realise different screen sizes exist
mental meadow
1.19 was released an hour ago by Mojang
coral comet
Spigot isnt even out yet for 1.19
primal kraken
How are people so blind that they don’t see #❗ 1.19, I have to hope they’re trolling
worthy geode
First rule of supporting: people don't read.
ripe sphinx
But they want an answer NOW so they ask in chat
ripe sphinx
First rule of supporting: people don't read.
eh I think it's Users Lie (even if they don't know they're lying)
golden gust
primal kraken
But they want an answer NOW so they ask in chat
but they could get an answer faster from #❗ 1.19 :pain:
ripe sphinx
*but they could get an answer faster from <#979403214610890792>* :pain:
but that also requires effort on their part
primal kraken
Yeah I get that’s how it works with people, but i don’t have to like it
coral comet
If you want 1.19 support for your 1.18 server RIGHT NOW, then use via or something until 1.19 comes out on paper
worthy geode
Just use a viaduct or something
stuck snow
1.19 lol
coral comet
Why do they call it 🦆 tape?
undone blade
idk, its like gorilla glue i guess
worthy geode
Why do they call it 🦆 tape?
duct 👀
true canyon
duct tape.
orchid rivet
When release the 1.19?
worthy geode
Aka big pipe for air
twin lagoon
when do i become a millionaire
primal kraken
Duct tape would be a good name for a bad fabric fork attempting to implement bukkit
undone blade
My childhood dreams shall live on
vagrant marlin
unfortunate, guess they wont be playing on your server then
now your server dies and you will go homeless because paper no 1.19
primal kraken
Lmao
grim island
rip
worthy geode
now your server dies and you will go homeless because paper no 1.19
Just build a dirt hut
Homelessness solved
ripe sphinx
In all seriousness install ViaVersion which will allow 1.19 players to connect, they just won't be able to use any 1.19 blocks/entities
vagrant marlin
is the dirt hut 1.19 compatible?
undone blade
Breaking news, PaperMC didnt release minecraft 1.19 in 0.34seconds and now an extra 15% of the world is homeless
worthy geode
is the dirt hut 1.19 compatible?
Only if you use Cross-Version dirt
native wolf
dirt protocol hack
vagrant marlin
Only if you use Cross-Version dirt
how many enums for that?
frank otter
tell me something interesting
gravity in the ISS is 90% of what you have in the surface
stuck snow
do you have a release date?
vagrant marlin
do you have a release date?
3 or 7
undone blade
No
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
twin lagoon
@quasi valley
quasi valley
what's an German
worthy geode
Why are you running a server for Germans if you don't speak German
mental meadow
Es gibt kein ETA, und wenn du weiter nervst wirst du gekickt
vagrant marlin
arnold schwarzenegger beer
undone blade
(waits for entire discord to get canceled)
worthy geode
Es gibt kein ETA, und wenn du weiter nervst wirst du gekickt
voraussichtliche Verfügbarkeit
vagrant marlin
do we need to localise the eta command?
stuck snow
não sei falar inglês mas estou tentando
vagrant marlin
message for every single language
undone blade
would be funny if you typed the eta command you got kicked lmao
stuck snow
sou do Rio de Janeiro, brasil
ripe sphinx
If only it was that easy :/
golden gust
We had auto reply in the past but it was just stupidly spammy
ripe sphinx
papermc GPT-3?
vagrant marlin
since when havent germans spoken english?
ripe sphinx
super easy to false positive Slatt
mental meadow
You can also use Google Translate to translate the messages in the eta-Reply or in #❗ 1.19
undone blade
What if i say, I need to release a fart
ripe sphinx
yeah that's exactly what the logic was Slatt
and it was filled with false positivevs
vagrant marlin
yeah, i am also waiting very patiently when paper releases 1.19, i will be very happy about that but i will give the paper team as much time to do it as possible.
said no one
ripe sphinx
tl;dr is autoreply no workie
spiral robin
@mental meadow 
mental meadow
spiral robin
How r u x
void void
who care
ripe sphinx
eh I know at least one notable with access, but that would get expensive FAST
spiral robin
good n u? xx
Am ok 
stuck snow
I don't even know if I'm talking nonsense in English 🤔
ripe sphinx
gpt-3
worthy geode
They give out access pretty quick now
ripe sphinx
still is pretty expensive iirc
worthy geode
But yeah, fun is over as soon as you have used all your free tokens
ripe sphinx
excelent question, no one knows
worthy geode
Also the main thing I used GPT-2 for was creating funny nonsense sentences and GPT-3 is simply too good for that
night orbit
i apologize if this has already been answered or if this is the wrong channel, but does anyone know when paper will release 1.19?
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
night orbit
thank you!
ripe sphinx
I miss the old eta "anyone asking for eta will be fed to goblins"
worthy geode
Oh Dall-E probably, nice
fossil crater
how long does updates to new versions usually take?
spiral robin
….
ripe sphinx
weeks not days
unkempt drift
mental meadow
No ETA means no ETA
night orbit
is it safe to start a vanilla server then launch it with paper later?
night orbit
thank you!
fossil crater
is it safe to start a vanilla server then launch it with paper later?
probs
just dont do it the other way around most likly
void void
o shit
night orbit
ok
ashen perch
@cedar ether 😏
void void
the spigot gitlab returns 403 for me lol
mental meadow
It is not on Github, it is their own site
cedar ether
<@422777696905330689> 😏
stuck lava
what's with new signed msgs lol
1.20: Woowowooowwooo, now introducing signed itemstacks!
worthy geode
You can get access to it. But you need to sign a legal document to contribute, so it's kinda meh
void void
github =/= open source
ashen perch
<:fingerguns:508524663341842443>
now i can finally ping you cuz yoshi isnt here XD
stuck lava
mental meadow
almost like he works on the update
worthy geode
I mean, it would be worrying if he didn't know what was in the update
cedar ether
now i can finally ping you cuz yoshi isnt here XD
i'll invite yoshi rn 😂
ashen perch
i'll invite yoshi rn 😂
he doesnt have mod 😎
quiet mesa
ripe sphinx
allegedly that means md is about to release updates
ripe sphinx
(I assume he takes it down to prevent issue spam)
void void
i shouldve subscribed i assumed id be fine just refreshing the commits page lol
whatever theyll be posted on this server anyway lol
sick loom
1.19 bungeecord
vagrant marlin
wow
vagrant marlin
@void void are we in a race
void void
apparently yes
ripe sphinx
time for this copypasta message
Early builds of Paper and Spigot will have bugs. It is highly discouraged to update production until at least several weeks after release.
If you do decide to update, make sure to take backups frequently, and take one before the update. Remember that if you don't test your backups, you don't have backups.
void void
probably yours
vagrant marlin
probably
ripe sphinx
And the streams begin!
void void
im running off my home network and there's been some shit with connectivity to a lot of cdns these past few months
warm anchor
I alrady got it running 
vagrant marlin
ah, i am on 2.4ghz wifi
void void
lmao
void void
dont tell me youre hosting off it
warm anchor
Jokni that's your neighbor's wifi 
vagrant marlin
Jokni that's your neighbor's wifi <:gunrie:806709921952956426>
god damnit, again?
spiral robin
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-bungeecord-1-19.559742/
@twin lagoon nice
stuck lava
I'm kinda confused tho... server messages... like idk "you were muted" "pls vote" whatever... have to be signed too?
twin lagoon
nice
sacred veldt
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-bungeecord-1-19.559742/
1.17.2 🤔
twin lagoon
idk how people haven't replied yet
vagrant marlin
aight i think i won
vagrant marlin
idk how people haven't replied yet
i think i know why
the site is shitting itself
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
warm anchor
@void void ^ please read
void void
im still stuck on pulling updates for builddata
twin lagoon
@spiral robin nice
spiral robin
@twin lagoon nice
twin lagoon
ask spigot
void void
im not asking for support dw
vagrant marlin
its a feature
stuck lava
lavish compass
kenny forgot to rebase when???
limber knotBOT
yes, the website
ripe sphinx
Can't join the VC right now, but how bad did md butcher the new chat/command stuff? or did he just not touch it?
spiral robin
Can't join the VC right now, but how bad did md butcher the new chat/command stu...
Didn’t touch it (yet), he mentioned this on the blog post
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
vagrant marlin
my plans of selling data to fbi has been ruined
vagrant marlin
this is md's fault
worthy geode
Yes. That's mainly ddos protection tho
jovial mango
SO, in everyone's experience, what is the average update time for large updates? A week or so?
junior sparrow
1.19 spigot compiling not working for me 😦
brave mountain
why ask every time? the answer will be the same
vagrant marlin
1.19 spigot compiling not working for me 😦
unfortunate
lavish compass
did 1.19 have any worldgen changes from 1.19-rc2
vagrant marlin
rc2 is 1.19
ripe sphinx
SO, in everyone's experience, what is the average update time for large updates?...
weeks not days
jovial mango
so the update for 1.17 to 1.18 took WEEKS? Not Days?
jovial mango
1.18.2 to 1.19 is a large update compared to 1.18.1 to 1.18.2 ---- that is what I meant
worthy geode
Updated being finished does not mean that it's stable
So paper might be updated soon, but you probably still shouldn't use it
vagrant marlin
i live on the edge
ripe sphinx
Early builds of Paper and Spigot will have bugs. It is highly discouraged to update production until at least several weeks after release.
If you do decide to update, make sure to take backups frequently, and take one before the update. Remember that if you don't test your backups, you don't have backups.
magic river
Either md5 was up late trying to get that done on time or he set an alarm to go off when the release happened so he could hit publish 😛
brave mountain
Updated being finished does not mean that it's stable
the same goes for plugins
magic river
Probably up late, it isn't that late down there
twin lagoon
no
vagrant marlin
why are you looking at cloudflare plans anyways
twin lagoon
you pay for an enterprise contract that gets your volume based pricing
brave mountain
is absurd asking for paper ETA, and your plugins will probably still won't work after weeks or months
twin lagoon
no one pays the actual $1/GB rate, especially not hypixel
vagrant marlin
is absurd asking for paper ETA, and your plugins will probably still won't work ...
all the plugins i use work on spigot 1.19, thank you very much.
worthy geode
If you want something for Minecraft, usually TCPShield is the better option
Could also host on bloomhost and benefit from their cloudflare stuff
stuck lava
lol
vagrant marlin
spigot 1.19 is out?
spiral robin
worthy geode
Sometimes decompile errors need to be fixed manually, yes
ashen perch
damn 1.19 update is here
stuck lava
where?
worthy geode
There
limber knotBOT
it will most likely not compile if the decompile didn't work properly
magic river
I think there have been cases where it compiled but was wrong
limber knotBOT
but pretty sure there were decompile errors that compiled but changed runtime logic
magic river
But the vast majority of the time it just fails to compile
potent hollow
yo
limber knotBOT
how could they?!? https://i.moep.tv/g6vX5LOU.png
worthy geode
Not the H!
ripe sphinx
For funsies decided to open up the spigot discord.
I regret that decision.
I'm honestly shocked how few "when update" people we've got this time, guess because spigot was so speedy they're all satisifed with the (probably buggy) spigot build
ripe sphinx
eh not my problem as long as they stay over there
ripe sphinx
They don't use via because they want all the new stuff NOOOOOOW, even if the build has an exceedingly high chance of corrupting your world
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
stuck lava
lol
ashen perch
Did you know that ghosts call their true love their ghoul-friend?
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
wraith hedge
im just using viaversion until a stable version is released
stuck lava
why don't u do it? 😐
ripe sphinx
(and hundreds of hours to actually get to stable)
wraith hedge
Stop asking please
lies! you obviously just press the big red button that says release and its just magic!
slender surge
they're lying to you
they have paper versions ready until MC Version 1.27, they just are hiding them from you
flat mural
I can’t believe this
stuck lava
lol
ripe sphinx
News flash, neither does the paper dev team. They're doing all this for free, in their free time.
twin lagoon
?kick @void void no
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked Mr_HiboFish#3201 (no) [2 total infractions] -- Michael#9600.
ripe sphinx
thank you
spark raven
Only odd thing is spigot doesnt seem to have said anything about 1.19 in their discord
hexed zealot
Thanks
wraith hedge
lies! you obviously just press the big red button that says release and its just...
im just joking around with this comment btw
spiral robin
Ok
spark raven
Nvm
blazing fern
inb4 the inevitably barrage of "1.19 whennnn"
spark raven
1.19 spigot just dropped
ashen cliff
Things I have never actually seen used before: https://posili.me/i/C8i5QGLZ-2022-06-07_18-52-50.png
hexed zealot
Things I have never actually seen used before: https://posili.me/i/C8i5QGLZ-2022...
i always used this when i played on wii u XD
slender surge
spiggy is a big boy
hexed zealot
such a long time ago
waxen panther
who are all these people
void void
Hai
ripe sphinx
Early builds of Paper and Spigot will have bugs. It is highly discouraged to update production until at least several weeks after release.
If you do decide to update, make sure to take backups frequently, and take one before the update. Remember that if you don't test your backups, you don't have backups.
ashen cliff
I mean, the locked repeater.
void void
I know
warm anchor
hexed zealot
who are all these people
humans i hope
waxen panther
who are you
ripe sphinx
#paper-github @.kenny did you remember to pull?
hexed zealot
totaly human
warm anchor
why do you all have weed icon beside your name? 😕
blazing fern
because thats what they smoke - its a new discord feature where they automatically detect your favourite drugs
ripe sphinx
Discord "new member" icon
stuck lava
lmao
waxen panther
I am convinced new humans spawn when an update comes out just to be weird in paper general
wraith hedge
aberrrr 
spiral robin
Who are you
ripe sphinx
aberrrr 
frank otter
is Aber the one with the kitten
full rune
spiral robin
acoustic seal
@golden gust <insert joke about condoms> Rib it. 😄
spiral robin
vagrant marlin
who aber?
twin lagoon
My favourite little Amazon.co.uk intern @spiral robin
twin lagoon
coarse lily
terse vale
hello
twin lagoon
there's no eta
acoustic seal
@slim nymph did Timings v2 NodeJS ever get off the ground?
acoustic seal
<@116069450662412295> did Timings v2 NodeJS ever get off the ground?
Is there a way to set the timings destination as well.
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
Is there a way to set the timings destination as well.
the timings url is configurable already
acoustic seal
Thats good
spiral robin
Is it
acoustic seal
rip Timings website still shows my old name
terse sparrow
May I invite some of my discord server members to here so they can get updated on when the new paper server version will be out? I have a few people wanting to join my server right now but needing to wait on a version update for the server type.
twin lagoon
my dude
fathom light
I really want to say "update to 1.19", but I am not stupid.
spiral robin
No this is an elitist private guild
terse vale
Hi, is there any kernel on the new version of meincraft 1.19
acoustic seal
You must eat at least 1 taco a day to join 🌮
fathom light
I wanted to be the first one to make my plugin 1.19, but I should've seen when it was released...
terse sparrow
Sorry I was just making sure plus I didn’t realize it said it was a public server.
spiral robin
👢
frank otter
what is a kernel in this context
terse vale
When will kernels for 1.19 be released
spiral robin
We don’t know
true canyon
It's a Russian way of saying server, from what I can tell.
spiral robin
Be patient
true canyon
But also a Russian word for saying plugin sometimes.
And sometimes it means plugin addon.
terse vale
Help me find the kernel for the new version
true canyon
I'm starting to think it's just a catchall mis translation for any software
acoustic seal
So whats the word for kernel
rare python
When will kernels for 1.19 be released
Do you mean server? No one knows, it will probably be available in a few days, but not stable for a few weeks.
frank otter
I'm starting to think it's just a catchall mis translation for any software
sounds like it
true canyon
Help me find the kernel for the new version
What word are you using in your native language for "kernel" in this sentence?
terse vale
Do you mean server? No one knows, it will probably be available in a few days, b...
Thanks for the answer, is it possible to create a server on a snapshot now
potent hollow
hi
terse vale
core minecraft server
frank otter
Thanks for the answer, is it possible to create a server on a snapshot now
Spigot has releases, but not stable and maybe not even any jars
terse vale
for minecraft server
wet storm
What word are you using in your native language for "kernel" in this sentence?
"yadro" - ядро - core, kernel etc.
frank otter
I saw a bunch of people compiling it from source earlier
rare python
Thanks for the answer, is it possible to create a server on a snapshot now
Converting between different server forks is generally a bad idea, I would recommend just using Paper 1.18.2 and waiting for 1.19.
terse vale
Converting between different server forks is generally a bad idea, I would recom...
Do you know when Purpur is coming out?
true canyon
"yadro" - ядро - core, kernel etc.
I find it so confusing when I see "kernel" and "core" used for vanilla, paper, plugins, plugin add-ons, and who knows what else, so I'm trying to figure out if there's a better way for me to clarify. 😂
frank otter
purpur depends on paper right
terse vale
Purpur is better than Paper, right?
rare python
Do you know when Purpur is coming out?
Purpur won't be able to release until Paper does, as Purpur is a Paper fork.
frank otter
like it is to paper what paper is to spigot?
rare python
Purpur is better than Paper, right?
Purpur is Paper + features you probably don't need.
terse vale
Will I be able to wait for paper 1.9 to switch to it, and then when 1.19 purpur comes out switch to purpur
terse vale
Just when I tried to change the kernel version from Paper to Purpur I got an error
rare python
ashen cliff
It was fun while it lasted.
rare python
https://posili.me/i/R3cDpzLp-2022-06-07_19-29-48.png
🤔
worthy geode
Just when I tried to change the kernel version from Paper to Purpur I got an err...
Ask Purpur for support on that, they have a discord as well
terse vale
There was a problem with the world
wet storm
I find it so confusing when I see "kernel" and "core" used for vanilla, paper, p...
yeah, I blame my russian mates when they say it, we call "yadro" everything which many things are dependent on, imo for "server software" there is a better alternative term "Servernoye PO" - "Серверное ПО", I force my mates to pronounce this instead of "Yadro".
terse vale
Do you like Putin?
twin lagoon
no
twin lagoon
no
terse vale
Why
true canyon
This is not really the place for discussing a dictator.
terse vale
I think he's doing the right thing.
true canyon
There are better things to do like share a love of cats
twin lagoon
?kick @terse vale absolutely not
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked Seymour#2653 (absolutely not) [1 total infraction] -- Michael#9600.
true canyon
Aw beat me to it. Damn my fingernails getting in the way of mobile typing speed.
spiral robin
@true canyon look at this cutie I saw at the adoption place recently
brave mountain
I think you should use the right reason when ?kick
hexed kelp
:raised_hands: Kicked ``Seymour#2653`` (``absolutely not``) [`1 total infraction...
Makes sense now, hes just a russian youtuber, but obv a clown
true canyon
@spiral robin omg can I pet them
twin lagoon
I think you should use the right reason when ?kick
it can be updated afterwards
true canyon
Makes sense now, hes just a russian youtuber, but obv a clown
Unnecessary to go digging into their life.
brave mountain
but pretty annoying dude
hexed kelp
Unnecessary to go digging into their life.
its linked on their discord ¯_(ツ)_/¯
coarse lily
?kick <@639147832435277825> absolutely not
Well that was short lived
wet storm
Makes sense now, hes just a russian youtuber, but obv a clown
who cares now
hexed kelp
~~who cares now~~
nobody, I just found it funny
twin lagoon
kick @coarse lily
fading heath
is there a 1.19 server version with plugin support out yet?
twin lagoon
spigot
brave mountain
before ask, read
true canyon
See the 1.19 channel 🙂
brave mountain
why is so hard to read?
odd sinew
cloud moat
I just hope there won't be a triple headed diff this time around
true canyon
Excitement, and an entire generation trained to expect instant gratification without effort? 🤔
brave mountain
fair enough
thorny mesa
1.19
twin lagoon
1.19
brave mountain
1.19.1
cloud moat
I'm personally just waiting for the first alpha release of it so I can start porting Mockbukkit to 1.19
ashen cliff
I hope kenny pulled upstream.
foggy veldt
i didnt know 1.19 was out until i got an everyone ping from sodium server
sturdy halo
?kick <@639147832435277825> absolutely not
kicking someone due to his political opinion is wrong
wile yess we know putin is bad
vernal moth
I'm personally just waiting for the first alpha release of it so I can start por...
the api you can prolly get in a few if you compile it yourself
golden gust
Nothing to do with political opinions
twin lagoon
no i'm kicking him because we don't want political discussions
mossy vessel
Why so many 🤡 in here
sturdy halo
no i'm kicking him because we don't want political discussions
oh guess that makes sence
spiral robin
@mossy vessel 
cloud moat
I hope kenny pulled upstream. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
Wouldn't be the first time he forgor doing that 
spiral robin
Hello x
twin lagoon
combined with the fact that the user has been asking for ETAs etc
foggy veldt
which stream? poki isnt streaming
twin lagoon
german pokimane is live at twitch.tv/kennytvn
vernal moth
cloud moat
the api you can prolly get in a few if you compile it yourself
Sounds good, that's all I'll probably need for now. And most of the stuff that changed in the server will already be available on Spigot. So I only have to adapt small changes for paper methods maybe
worthy geode
That's a weird looking hot tub
twin lagoon
i bought 1 prime sub wtf do you mean top supporter
void void
in my defense, I did say it was untested
vernal moth
ok we blame cat then 😄
golden gust
I mean, i was hoping for at least a smoke test
ashen cliff
<@219443401974611970> https://clips.twitch.tv/HumbleHyperSowPunchTrees-LeZk-2gKF...
Very good.
golden gust
I was semi working on it myself, but, bleh
This is why I generally just deal with this mess myself
vernal moth
am testing the PR now
coarse lily
i bought 1 prime sub wtf do you mean top supporter
You love Kenny more than anyone
twitch said so
hot walrus
kennytvn said he'd do a hottub stream as soon as he hits 2k viewers. He's on Twitch right now.
golden gust
Yea, pls smoketest, my heads blagged out, too many people in chat
void void
Yea, pls smoketest, my heads blagged out, too many people in chat
yeah, should've learned from last time with worldgen
my bad
signal harbor
how do you guys reccomend to learn coding and stuff? ive wanted to learn for years now but every time ive tried its just been boring to learn. open to any ideas ty
vernal moth
dont learn to learn
try to build something small and cool and learn what you need for that
coarse lily
But also if you think it's boring to learn then it might just not be for you.
worthy geode
There's a pinned message in #paper-dev with some resources for learning.
But you still need to be interested in it of course
lavish compass
Can we all type "weeb" in kenny's chat
wet storm
yes
hearty dagger
what are 80 people in a call for
ripe sphinx
Paper updating stream
lavish compass
Kenny forgetting to rebase stream
vernal moth
@void void did you actually try to join?
ripe sphinx
signal harbor
try to build something small and cool and learn what you need for that
yeah but can i get like a recommendation cus idk man
pastel saddle
Is there an estimate when papermc 1.19 will release?
golden gust
define "broken"
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
pastel saddle
ok, thanks
golden gust
You'd need a vanillaserver with ip forwarding disabled in the proxy
patent current
why is the channel called #851516819177209878, like german?
void void
it seemed to work for me 😅
vernal moth
[19:51:09 WARN]: [/127.0.0.1:61872] <-> InitialHandler - corrupted frame: Packet class net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.LoginRequest 0 Protocol 759 was too big (expected 65 bytes, got 830 bytes)
dry horizon
What is the diffrence between Velocity And paper
vernal moth
vanilla 1.19 client
lavish compass
Velocity is a proxy
vernal moth
lets move to #waterfall-dev
void void
ah, not just your testing
void void
yes
daring dune
i think i know you
golden gust
urgh, the limit thing
foggy veldt
were you difficult to work with
dry horizon
When is 1.19 Paper?
vagrant marlin
great success
twin lagoon
When is 1.19 Paper?
when it's ready
vagrant marlin
is this not ready?
daring dune
so no specific date
dry horizon
when it's ready
but like when
twin lagoon
when it's ready
vagrant marlin
when its ready
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
daring dune
roger that
daring dune
would pre-generating terrain with spigot and then switch to paper later cause any problems?
vagrant marlin
no
daring dune
nice
upper whale
can't see the live stream 
ripe sphinx
void void
When will paper be ready for 1.19?
mental meadow
ffs
vagrant marlin
does no one read <#979403214610890792> ? can I just delete it?
do it
ripe sphinx
LOL
vagrant marlin
it needs localisation
mental meadow
When will paper be ready for 1.19?
thanks
vagrant marlin
clearly thats hte issue here
我們知道 SpigotMC 正在發布初始 1.19 版本。 我們將盡快開始更新 Paper 和相關項目。
do you guys get it now?
void void
Yes, but I need to know how many hours or days it will take please.
mental meadow
There is no ETA
vagrant marlin
when its ready
vagrant marlin
Yes, but I need to know how many hours or days it will take please.
somewhere between 0 hours and 87660 hours
daring dune
this week?
ripe sphinx
Weeks, not days
golden gust
!kick @void void asking 20 times doesn't change the answer
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked Hanᴋ#7095 (asking 20 times doesn't change the answer) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.
daring dune
lel
topaz mortar
Sleep
daring dune
I dont have a bed
vagrant marlin
floor
daring dune
is there a way we can help? like test spigot 1.19 and report bugs or what
wet storm
🛌
vagrant marlin
is there a way we can help? like test spigot 1.19 and report bugs or what
thats how bugs are fixed
edgy dust
if you did find bugs in spigot i'd assume you'd report them to spigot and not paper, considering paper 1.19 does not exist yet
edgy dust
paper is a fork of spigot, but reporting bugs found in spigot and not paper to paper wouldnt help them update it faster
daring dune
gotcha
limber knotBOT
oof, my test server crashes with 1GB of memory :S
hazy badger
Yo guys. Any good european hosting for dedicated gaming server wich is not ovh or hetzner?
zenith maple
where can i get information about this weird settings?
golden gust
For the one on the right, read the 1.19 release blog.
zenith maple
limber knotBOT
ovh is pretty good 👀
void void
hover over the first one, shold have explanation
hazy badger
ovh is pretty scam ahahah, they have a client assistance wich is shit
zenith maple
hover over the first one, shold have explanation
it tells me almost nothing
void void
3rd-party Servers may send chat messages in non-standard formats.
With this option on: hidden players will be matched based on chat sender names
zenith maple
yes but second line isnt understandable at all
void void
hidden players refers to the gui that lets you block players
golden gust
The client has a block list.
hazy badger
Yo guys. Any good european hosting for dedicated gaming server wich is not ovh o...
bump
golden gust
That option lets the client try to match players based on the name.
zenith maple
finally understood
acoustic seal
Why does timings get posted with the x-www-form-urlencoded content type header
!?!?!
Its just raw data
dry horizon
quick question is there a plugin or a mod that allows you to have both mods and plugins at the same server for 1.18.2 or 1.19?
mental meadow
yes, don't use them
dry horizon
wdym
wraith trail
timings does more than a bit of stuff in that regard that does not really make sense
or maybe did at the time for some reason, but today definitely does not.
acoustic seal
yeah its gzipped json
dry horizon
cause like I have plugins but I want to add Proximity Chat
void void
eta?
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
mental meadow
There are hybrid server solutions but they are usually pretty bad & cause issues
dry horizon
There are hybrid server solutions but they are usually pretty bad & cause issues
example?
acoustic seal
Plugins and mods aren't aware of each other and it can cause issues. Such as corrupting data.
dry horizon
Idk how to implement Proximity Chat
pastel saddle
btw, is there an eta for the 1.19 paper release?
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
golden gust
No.
pastel saddle
dry horizon
Is there a plugin for proximity chat that makes it so as the player gets closer the vokume is higher
mental meadow
!kick @pastel saddle Asking for ETA multiple times
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked Horizondawn#6904 (Asking for ETA multiple times) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
pastel saddle
lmao
nocturne agate
Idk how to implement Proximity Chat
discord srv had a form of proximity chat using discord
dry horizon
discord srv had a form of proximity chat using discord
Yes, I used it but there isnt the feature I tgold you
dry horizon
no.
nocturne agate
ok.
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
acoustic seal
uhh trying to remember the chat plugin I used to use
It had local chat and I think you could get Discord working with it
dry horizon
@nocturne agate Im quite sure that it just moves you into a diffrent channel when you get closer to someone but it Dosen't change the volume
nocturne agate
isn’t there setting which changes the users server volume? I am not sure, but i remember something like that
void void
that's per user
there was a plugin that dropped the channel quality so it sounded like you were further away
nocturne agate
ah then i am confusing something
hazy badger
Yo guys. Any good european hosting for dedicated gaming server wich is not ovh o...
bump
dry horizon
I can't use mods cause my server is on paper
lavish compass
ovh is pretty good 👀
abstract osprey
spiggot released
spiral robin
Who
lavish compass
I can't use mods cause my server is on paper
SVC has a server-side plugin compatible with Paper
dry horizon
what is SVC
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
lavish compass
simple voice chat
dry horizon
does it hav ethe volume feature?
dry horizon
SVC has a server-side plugin compatible with Paper
link?
lavish compass
Search it up
limber knotBOT
Cubxity: lol but ovh has epyc too so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
lavish compass
shh you're ruining the joke
warm anchor
hazy badger
Yo guys. Any good european hosting for dedicated gaming server wich is not ovh o...
Please help
void void
How does paper affect the fortnite servers
lavish compass
What's the reason you're avoiding them?
lavish compass
I'm using both OVH and Hetzner for production servers in EU
mental meadow
If you had a bad experience with both of them everything else we recommend will be worse tbh
golden gust
Very few people care to deal with datacenters outside of Hetzner/OVH outside of colocrossing/phoenixnap
hazy badger
Mh, so let's suppose i go with hetzner
lavish compass
There's of course Equinix Metal, but 
acoustic seal
OVH has always been good enough for me
lavish compass
Do note Hetzner doesn't have good DDoS protection compared to OVH
lavish compass
OVH or Hetzner with modern good performing CPUs
acoustic seal
Depends how many players you want and plugins
lavish compass
e.g. AX101 on Hetzner (Ryzen 5950X)
acoustic seal
You don't need to go super expensive for a handful of players and plugins
void void
The fornite servers are badly affecting the rare fish stock as it heats up the rare lakes that they spawn in causing the rare fish stock to go down by 48% Aurora thank you for paper as it allows fortnite to keep the rare lake cool...
mental meadow
no problem love fortnite 
hazy badger
e.g. AX101 on Hetzner (Ryzen 5950X)
I can't find this
acoustic seal
Did I just have a stroke
lavish compass
Avoid Intel on Hetzner though, have had bad experience with the NIC and have heard overheating stories
hazy badger
Depends how many players you want and plugins
I'll have around 150 players
acoustic seal
I think I did
lavish compass
acoustic seal
I'll have around 150 players
and how many plugins?
lavish compass
Plugin count does NOT matter
hazy badger
and how many plugins?
60
lavish compass
What matters is what plugins you're using
lavish compass
^
hazy badger
i have a openworld server btw
acoustic seal
I mean my RAM usage disagreed, lower cost servers generally have less RAM
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
lavish compass
I mean my RAM usage disagreed, lower cost servers generally have less RAM
That depends on what plugin
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
mental meadow
!kick @ebon steppe Even asking multiple times, no ETA means no ETA
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Kicked ProGamer2904#1475 (Even asking multiple times, no ETA means no ETA) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.
lavish compass
Again, I can have a plugin that hogs like nothing
or 10 plugins that constantly allocate memory every tick
mental meadow
My plugin just does System.out.println("uwu");
every 5 seconds
basically worldedit
acoustic seal
I imagine most gamemode plugins tend to eat RAM and so do any logging plugins for grief etc
hazy badger
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax101
So is this good for a survival open world server?
lavish compass
hazy badger
I know it's based on how my server is set
lavish compass
So is this good for a survival open world server?
It is an overall good server I would recommend, yes
acoustic seal
128GB seems a little overkill o-o
twin lagoon
128GB seems a little overkill o-o
but it's cheap
hazy badger
i was searching trough here and i couldn't find anything good
acoustic seal
True
hazy badger
void void
There has been a slight decrease on the cheese wiz stock as its main ingredient is rare fish. It turns out the frogs in the new 1.19 update is eating the fresh rare fish😭 What should we do? any suggestions?
lavish compass
Hetzner has really high quality servers, the price is literally unbeatable
cloud moat
The AX101 is amazing
acoustic seal
admittedly last time I ran a server it was on i7's with about 64GB of RAM for stupid cash
cloud moat
I use it too
lavish compass
Two only 2 cons are virtually DDoS protection and location
cloud moat
But I'm about to upgrade to an AX161
acoustic seal
and don't miss any of your bills!!
cloud moat
hetzner has everything except for high quality
Yeah but the best you gonna get at that price point
acoustic seal
Hetzner banned my account for missing a few bills
hazy badger
Hetzner banned my account for missing a few bills
same
lavish compass
Why are you upgrading to AX161
twin lagoon
Hetzner banned my account for missing a few bills
how unsurprising
cloud moat
And the non standard racks
acoustic seal
and refuse to unban me, I even offered to overpay
gray perch
m
acoustic seal
iirc I didn't have automatic payments working so I had to manually do it
cloud moat
Why are you upgrading to AX161
A lot of VMs and some client environments
lavish compass
In the end, you get what you pay for
lavish compass
A lot of VMs and some client environments
Ah I see
cloud moat
The thing I don't like about those is that you usually don't have ipmi
So if they fail to restart your gonna have to open a ticket
lavish compass
🥵
nocturne agate
He is planning something
lavish compass
acoustic seal
This makes me feel old 😦
void void
some hosts disable bstats by default, there's way more than 100k
cloud moat
Okay wtf
twin lagoon
equinix metal is the AWS of baremetal
lavish compass
Equinix is S tier
cloud moat
At that point coloc is getting competitive
twin lagoon
no because you're getting a server in an equinix datacenter
void void
Am i allowed to fork paper for fortnite servers?
twin lagoon
with their entire network flexibility
lavish compass
Equinix also have colos
acoustic seal
At that point coloc is getting competitive <a:Kekw:800065302217883668>
With a decent enough server colo is a good option
frank otter
aw I think discord patched the channel name thing
acoustic seal
I used to pay hardly anything to colo a server
frank otter
shame, now I can't touch the ones with illegal characters or they'll auto-format server side
void void
Am I allowed to fork paper?
cloud moat
With a decent enough server colo is a good option
Yeah, I have some good servers laying around, don't need them atm, otherwise they would already be in colocation
twin lagoon
Am I allowed to fork paper?
yes
lavish compass
just make sure you're following the license
mental meadow
Read our license for our license
void void
ok
lavish compass
I don't know what a fortnite server is, but
acoustic seal
Yeah, I have some good servers laying around, don't need them atm, otherwise the...
yeah theres a small DC near me that only want about £80/pm to host the server
lavish compass
¯_(ツ)_/¯
acoustic seal
It ended up being cheaper to build a decent server and colo it than rent one
void void
I don't know what a fortnite server is, but
I can make it work
Who here use win 11 over 10?
crystal lilyBOT
ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
void void
Am i allowed to say the n word if im black
plush plinth
We have a date for paper server in 1.19 or no ?
void void
no
void void
Am i allowed to say the n word if im black
not in here
plush plinth
ok...
void void
ok
twin lagoon
no
spiral robin
what the fuck is going on here today
I’ve never seen this channel so cancerous
Blaming the newest mods for not upkeeping the standards
void void
aberdeener