general

[lavish compass]

[magic river]

So long as it's just state sharing (here is a link to the video and timestamp) and not streaming it that sounds fine

[warm anchor]

[vestal jasper]

@twin lagoon uwu

[frank steeple]

Like it nearly happened now

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[spare venture]

neat

[frank steeple]

uwu

[topaz mortar]

Dictation. 😄 Stuff that will come int 5 years into non English countries.

[magic river]

cringe, they're still trying to make long form dictation a thing

[spare venture]

just speak english

[void void]

they didn't say the others also needed a subscription, though that would probably make sense

[magic river]

That shit has been the holy grail for 25 years

[true canyon]

Wake me up when iMessage is replaced with RCS support.

[magic river]

Dragon Dictation, first release 1997 😄

[twin lagoon]

but then apple would lose it's monopoly in the US!

[magic river]

More likely they'll just add an XMPP or Matrix proxy

[true canyon]

Good

[magic river]

You know, as required by EU law (coming soon)

[lavish compass]

LMFAO WHAT

[true canyon]

EU law requires matrix proxies? Wat.

[warm anchor]

Oh yes... coping code samples from a YT video.. very useful

[magic river]

EU law requires interoperability that doesn't lose e2ee

[mental meadow]

don't you programm your minecraft plugins on your iPhones?

[magic river]

That pretty much just leaves XMPP and Matrix afaik

[warm anchor]

yes I watch YT video for it aurora

[mental meadow]

EU lawmakers also want to abolish e2ee so let's not jump to conclusions lol

[smoky cloud]

I write SQL queries on my phone

[magic river]

Unless they all get together and invent a new thing just because

[true canyon]

Oh god EU what have you done.

[lavish compass]

RCS is nice but why can't people just agree on a common secure protocol

[true canyon]

Though I guess if it results in a quality matrix client finally...

[smoky cloud]

https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Standards (20 July 2011) https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

[magic river]

https://matrix.org/blog/2022/03/25/interoperability-without-sacrificing-privacy-matrix-and-the-dma

[void void]

iDebt™️

[lavish compass]

so true

[warm anchor]

nice

[lavish compass]

"securely and privately"

how do you prove it

[warm anchor]

now the rabber can pull out their iPhone and ask for payment

[magic river]

Interest free though so I wonder how they make money from it

Selling data, I'd guess

Or they're really counting on people to miss payments

[warm anchor]

it's just typical credit card things

merchant fee + unpaid interest if not paid off iirc

iirc Apple takes a cut too

[magic river]

You can't not pay it off though unless your bank account runs out of money

[quasi valley]

Actually good Apple maps?

[magic river]

But I suppose being over 6 weeks makes it not too different from just paying off your credit card every month

[warm anchor]

it's good for reasonable adults

[magic river]

Apple Maps is not terrible these days

OpenStreetMap is also totally usable

Oh god why

[topaz mortar]

Let's talk about sports. Lol

[warm anchor]

I mean US

[magic river]

Sudden cut on the music there

[topaz mortar]

Oh yeah. 50% of school is sports.

[magic river]

Yeah I totally paid to watch the yankees on friday night baseball last week

[warm anchor]

only 50%?

my highschool was like 70% sport fields and buildings

[magic river]

Sports take up a lot of space

[topaz mortar]

Oh, that's a lot.

[warm anchor]

we have 2 swimming pools, 1 football fields, 4 tennis, 1 baseball field

they remodel the building too (I drove by recently)

[lavish compass]

what

[warm anchor]

adding more buildings but not parking spot

[twin lagoon]

kinda neat

[warm anchor]

kids in US gets iPhone before they can read wdym

[quasi valley]

Mom please, I want to play Cut The Rope Remastered

[topaz mortar]

When I hear Jake I have to think of LTT Jake.

[magic river]

My sister's middle school (we moved before I went) had 3 tennis courts and I think 2 basketball courts, can't remember if they had a pool but they didn't have anything else

[warm anchor]

yeah it's getting ridiculous lol

[magic river]

My middle school was right next door to the high school in a small town so we had the high school football field, track, etc but no outdoor tennis or basketball

[warm anchor]

oh yeah I forgot about basketball

[magic river]

We did have a weight room though

[warm anchor]

its indoor one

[void void]

wasn't that already a thing? shared photos

[smoky cloud]

Pretty sure it is

[quasi valley]

god I hate these plastic 3h heads

[twin lagoon]

shared library kinda neat

[lavish compass]

is it e2ee though

[magic river]

I always thought it was weird my school didn't have tennis though, it was a very upper middle class kind of place

[lavish compass]

[warm anchor]

I know... 2D is better

[lavish compass]

safety check

ok

[magic river]

Did they finally make it possible to stop iMessage from going to every device you've ever looked at?

[warm anchor]

actually neat

[magic river]

I remember people used to struggle to stop their messages from going to a phone they gave away

I dunno if that's because they didn't wipe it so their kids could keep using their apps or what, pretty sure at least one case someone wiped the phone several times

[warm anchor]

They probably didnt wipe it..

[magic river]

It was just locked in to sending that serial number their messages

Removing their account from the phone definitely wasn't enough though

This was a big thing like 5 years ago

I guess either Apple fixed it, people figured out the right magic voodoo to make it work, or everyone gave up

btw even if you don't have Apple shit always get HomeKit enabled IoT/smart devices

That means they work without a cloud connection

Yeah this is Apple's car project migrated to be generically useful

They took over the entire UI

[topaz mortar]

Let's see which car manufacturer allows overwriting all screens.

[void void]

i'd rather not run my speed meter through my phone tbh

[magic river]

That map view makes it look like you're navigating around a pokemon game by driving 😄

[warm anchor]

lol

[topaz mortar]

Could cost a lot when your phone is off by one.

[magic river]

Sony has been doing personalized spatial audio using standard cameras for a while now

They have you take a picture of your ears as a part of the setup for earbuds or headphones

[lavish compass]

WHO needs this

[twin lagoon]

they really like to hide parts of the ui behind backgrounds now

[quasi valley]

wotch os noin

[lavish compass]

Apple really loves "DEPTH"

Portrait feature is literally fake depth

[vestal jasper]

So fancy, a feature that makes text harder to read!

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

[twin lagoon]

[magic river]

If you're fucking with your watch during a run you're probably about to trip or hit someone

[quasi valley]

For a second I thought they stole the logo

[lavish compass]

iDrugs

[twin lagoon]

that medications app is cool

[topaz mortar]

iWeed+

[warm anchor]

Oh yes Michael logging his weed usage

[smoky cloud]

So you can avoid overdosing on marijuanas

[twin lagoon]

M2

LETS GO

[topaz mortar]

uh

[lavish compass]

M2?!?!?

[ripe sphinx]

new apple silicon?

[twin lagoon]

new apple silicon

[topaz mortar]

asm2

[twin lagoon]

let's fucking go

[warm anchor]

M2 Pog

[lavish compass]

LFG

[void void]

Paper patched maps cursor dos for 1.12.2?

[frank otter]

wait m2?

[void void]

1.12 isn't supported, so probably no

[magic river]

1.12.2 is ancient

[lavish compass]

who made this graph

[void void]

Okay

[magic river]

It might be fixed, dunno. If not it never will be

[frank otter]

have they explicitly compared m2 to m1 yet

[smoky cloud]

Yes

[frank otter]

how much better is 2?

[lilac moon]

I saw a pic and it was like 20% better

[lavish compass]

they are comparing it with relative performance

[lilac moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688121419980341282/983429728386039829/unknown.png

[frank otter]

oh wow that is fairly impressive

[smoky cloud]

18% CPU, 35% GPU

[lilac moon]

Ah yes 10 core laptop chip, my favorite cpu

[twin lagoon]

go on then fuck up the MBA design

[void void]

it tells you which one in the bottom right ;)

[frank otter]

... what's a "Neural Engine"

[magic river]

Isn't that twice the memory bandwidth?

[lilac moon]

I didn't even see that in the corner

[magic river]

Tensor cores

[limber knot]

an engine for machine learning applications

[smoky cloud]

That is CHONKY

[magic river]

It's basically a bunch of dot product calculation units

[frank otter]

wat so it's like CUDA?

[twin lagoon]

nvm kinda hot

[frank otter]

but apple instead of gpu?

[smoky cloud]

No

[magic river]

Getting XPS vibes from that MBA

[lilac moon]

Wait dot product like with vectors??? Like we learned in math?!

[magic river]

Ah, no curved front though

[frank otter]

iirc that's how a lot of ML works

[smoky cloud]

That doesn’t look that thin

[magic river]

I guess the XPS started off as a MBA clone so that makes sense 😛

[twin lagoon]

they still have the dumb notch

[vague lagoon]

is it me or is the sound delayed?

[void void]

magsafe

[magic river]

Ok, time to hide the credit card

[smoky cloud]

I don’t like it

Why does it have a notch

[twin lagoon]

is the liquid retina display miniled or what

[magic river]

I know they want to put FaceID in there

But they can't get it thin enough yet

Even though Windows Hello depth cameras fit in my XPS...

[void void]

finally, a 1080p camera in a mb

[magic river]

MBP 14/16 had 1080p too, no?

[lavish compass]

can you just remove the fucking notch

[spare venture]

the notch is a brand thing now

[smoky cloud]

The 2020 has Force Touch?

[magic river]

Isn't that their excuse for the notch?

[spare venture]

iconic to apple

[magic river]

They upgraded the webcam

[void void]

oh, really?

[spare venture]

their excuse is that the camera takes up that much space, but apple is also known for the notch design now lol

[smoky cloud]

Okay but can it run Discord for 18 hours

Ah yes a levitating laptop

[magic river]

Must be one hell of a fan in there 😛

It can achieve lift

[vague lagoon]

?

[magic river]

Refresh the page I guess, seems fine to me

[smoky cloud]

Not the guinea pig!

[vague lagoon]

watching it via the tv app and air played to tv

[magic river]

Oh they're keeping the 13" Pro then

I thought it was just a transition thing

[twin lagoon]

hold the fucking phone

13" m2 pro

[magic river]

Same old design they'd had since like 2012 too

Actually I think my 2011 (Sandy Bridge) laptop looked like that

Oh hey M2 can do 24GB now, nice

That actually might be enough

[smoky cloud]

The Touch Bar is back?

[magic river]

16GB feels like too little, especially on macOS

13" MBP is old school, they haven't updated the design at all

[lavish compass]

NO NOTCH?

[twin lagoon]

that's the old model design

[magic river]

I guess they did change it from the one I bought in 2011 though, in 2016 they made it shitty by adding the touch bar and getting rid of magsafe

[smoky cloud]

And then they bought the Touch Bar back

[lavish compass]

wtf this is cheap

[magic river]

Oh and putting an awful keyboard in there that breaks easily

They didn't bring the touch bar back

[spare venture]

from

[magic river]

They never removed it from the 13"

[spare venture]

with a 256gb ssd?

[magic river]

MBA and the 14" and 16" MBP got redesigned, 13" is still old shit

[smoky cloud]

I can’t wait for my work laptop to break again

[magic river]

I guess Mac Pro is coming in fall then

No M2 Pro/Max/Ultra yet and I doubt they'd put the base M2 or any M1 in a high end workstation at this point

Or they're just killing it off and you're looking for the Mac Studio now

...did they just reinvent workspaces again?

[lavish compass]

yep

[magic river]

Also the left side of the screen is where my dock goes because I'm not a savage

meh, just get airmail

bleh, I wish push notification were only a thing for pinned tabs or the ones you save as an "app" (forgot the terminology there)

So every website wouldn't try to ask to enable them

btw the trick to those is to say yes when the website asks and then say no and don't ask again when the browser asks

The website pops up their own UI to try to sell you on the idea but let them ask again if you say no, if they just popped up the browser permission request people are more likely to block forever

[smoky cloud]

But can Metal 3 run Minecraft

[magic river]

Minecraft runs via an OpenGL->Metal translation layer

[lavish compass]

Vulkan: exists

[magic river]

...did they make their own FidelityFX Super Resolution?

I doubt that's a DLSS thing, although they do have that NPU in there

Then again FSR is open source so they might have just ported it to Metal

[lavish compass]

JAPANESE @warm anchor

[smoky cloud]

Disappointed they didn't show the Baby Chris mod

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-chris-redfield-rosemary-winters-rose-baby-gif-21869271

[magic river]

Still no native vulkan then

[lavish compass]

Apple is just so annoying to just listen to

[magic river]

And we're almost to the point where the best way to do OpenGL on macOS is Zink->MoltenVK->Metal 😄

(that's actually a thing that works, afaik)

[vernal moth]

https://github.blog/changelog/2022-06-06-view-commit-history-across-file-renames-and-moves/

Nice

[void void]

that's going to be very helpful with paper's patch files

[magic river]

They must be storing that metadata as a part of a commit, right?

Otherwise that's a kind of expensive operation

It has to run a diff heuristic between every commit to try to guess at renames

They don't actually use normal git storage on the server side so I suppose they can do whatever they want there

Heck they could have mercurial in there (it actually does track renames) and just give you a git interface 😛

[vernal moth]

It's a feature in git already

[magic river]

The feature in git is comparing the diff of every commit to try to detect the renames

[spare venture]

fuck me gas prices went up

[lavish compass]

yet no calculator

[magic river]

afaik git doesn't have metadata about renames, whenever it shows you renamed a file that's just based on whether the diff looks like a rename

[vernal moth]

Works tho

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commits/4d225813a18ba48ff50d3223db01d26d21e9450d/removed/0017-Configurable-speed-for-water-flowing-over-lava.patch?browsing_rename_history=true&new_path=patches/removed/0017-Configurable-speed-for-water-flowing-over-lava.patch&original_branch=master

Heh they put bunch of metadata in the url once you clicked it once

But that's really cool

[spare venture]

first time in my life i’ve paid $5/gal

[void void]

seems to have renames

[twin lagoon]

M*xin

[magic river]

Yeah apparently the thinking there is that since oil companies will practically cease to exist by government decree in 20-30 years (oil will always be useful but no where close to now) the oil producers have decided to stop investing in new capacity and play the scarcity game for the next few decades to milk us for all they can

Even if that pushes the timeline for their replacement up

Like, from a cost perspective E85 is now a clear winner and when it's time for a new car it's pretty easy to see that even if it costs more up front (and it might not, depending on what kind of car you're looking for) an electric car is going to save you money

Natural gas prices are pushing us closer to electric water heating and stoves being cheaper (on top of being more efficient and safer) too

[twin lagoon]

ipad external display heh

[magic river]

Instead of making a MBP with a touch screen or an iPad with a keyboard they're just going to keep blurring the line between the two

macOS can run most/all iPad apps, iPad can connect to a dock

[ashen cliff]

I love Reddit.

[charred sleet]

said no one ever

[devout oriole]

Can anyone point me in the direction of some documentation please? I'm looking for a simple chart (or any type of view) showing what gets executed server side vs client side. Thanks.

[warm anchor]

You can use essentialsx-discord

[potent wedge]

Look up "paper chan" ignore the images and look for the related article

[vernal moth]

Not sure what you mean, the closed thing might be the documentation of the protocol on wiki.vg?

[warm anchor]

I read chart as chat I thought he was looking for a discord chat plugin

[devout oriole]

Thanks for the info. I was indeed looking for What kind of logic is done by the minecraft server (Paper) VS what is entirely done on the minecraft client. I'll look at the suggestions.

[void void]

You can also take a look at the client source (which includes most of the server code since a lot of logic is shared) and check for things that are done explicitly server side (often via a !isClientSide) check

[devout oriole]

Thanks Noah, I'll be looking through the source for sure, I was hopeful there might be some documentation that made it a little simpler (;

[magic river]

Dang, it was just 2009 when we all had to throw out our TVs and get new ones for ATSC (or get a converter box) and now we're about to have to do it again for ATSC 3

[wet storm]

amaranth old

[magic river]

The last old school analog transmitters actually didn't shut down in the US until 2021

Although they were for special situations and were basically just converters themselves

Systems that would pick up the ATSC signal, convert it to NTSC, and re-transmit

FCC currently has no plans to force a transition to ATSC 3 though and in fact requires stations keep an ATSC 1 signal available if they do switch

[foggy silo]

FInally!!!

Github has been pushing some pretty neat QOL things recently.

[wet storm]

I think russian schools and many other people don't really care My school still has a hella old TV in our physics classroom, which I believe, has an ability to consume vhs, we watched some physics experiments on it... our physics classroom in general is a funny one, cuz it has many "retro" looking things...

[foggy silo]

I'm guessing it's too expensive to index the history all together however.

[keen seal]

Do you guys know how long it will take for paper to adapt 1.19?

[golden gust]

no

[rare python]

ETAs are the enemy of any developer.

[magic river]

Check again in 2023

[keen seal]

XD

[topaz mortar]

August should be enough time to get a stable release. 😄

[warm anchor]

This update is surprisingly small

In terms of features

We got frogs and what else

[cunning raft]

okay says you

internally its a shit ton

[warm anchor]

I know

[topaz mortar]

The Warden.

Just my expected time when I probably update at the lasted point.

[warm anchor]

Jsut what player sees

[cunning raft]

also isn't the sulk stuff now usable

allays

[warm anchor]

Hey JRoy || §c§lmy essentials broke. Pls fix||

[cunning raft]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/7873

yes!

[warm anchor]

[topaz mortar]

Urgh

[warm anchor]

Fast service

[magic river]

"fix"?

[warm anchor]

This is good customer service

[foggy silo]

Thanks for the awesome fix ❤️

[cunning raft]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/876902758366736457/983488553789059142/final_629e761779fe480076911f2a_93131.mp4

[foggy silo]

My server also started running faster!

[cunning raft]

either that or i guess i could look into the logger component dogshit

[magic river]

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure/issues/731

Already done 😄

[cunning raft]

yeah needs to be added to paper tho

saw there was a paper pr for it but it looked like the author had a stroke

[magic river]

Assuming there is a release for it I think you'd just have to make Paper call net.kyori.adventure.text.logger.slf4j.Handler#logger(String) when making an slf4j logger instead of whatever it calls now

[cunning raft]

yeah it's part of 4.11

[magic river]

Or I guess you could just make new instances of ComponentLogger directly

Err, except that's not directly, it chains back to Handler 😄

[cunning raft]

we'd need to create our own provider if we wanted to support colors, md_5 wacko format, and whatnot

[magic river]

lol, did your PR just revert the commit that broke legacy formatting?

[cunning raft]

jmp gave me that patch in march

and told me to pr it

and i got busy and remembered about it a few days ago

[warm anchor]

JRoy busy remodeling his mansion

[magic river]

Oh that PR doesn't do colors anyway?

It seems to just call the plain text serializer on components

So you'd still need an ansi serializer

[cunning raft]

yeah

i will look into it later if i get the chance

i finally went through the trouble of getting IJ to work on WSL again

[twin lagoon]

[cunning raft]

had to use the remote gateway dogshit

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

No Windows 11 then?

[cunning raft]

yes windows 11

[magic river]

WSLg broke?

[cunning raft]

oh well i didn't want to use that

[topaz mortar]

No KennyTV Streams this week?

[cunning raft]

would rather a local ide copy

[magic river]

Nothing to stream yet

[topaz mortar]

Nah, bc WSLg broke.

Hopefully the mr Change enum to classes will be merged by md for 1.19.

[limber knot]

I doubt it

[foggy silo]

Does it work nicely with paper?

[cunning raft]

yeah it's fine, works just like a regular ide

the only thing is a few ms delay for autocompletion

[foggy silo]

Ah.

[topaz mortar]

Yeah, it's to much evolution for him in a decade.

[limber knot]

why merge unfinished code? lol

[topaz mortar]

It is finished for multiple months now. See no reason in keeping it open.

[limber knot]

pretty sure it still can't handle loading plugins using the current api or did anything change/is there another PR?

[topaz mortar]

The one of DerFRZocker

[limber knot]

care to share a link/number/searchable name?

ah, found his real name

[topaz mortar]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/pull-requests/660/overview
https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/pull-requests/931/overview

It's basically idling for multiple months now. Without further throughts of md

[limber knot]

oof, it breaks enumsets/maps :S

[topaz mortar]

A little issue. Have seen near to no project using them.

[limber knot]

I use them whenver possible and so should everyone else lol

but yeah, most shitty abandoned plugins probably don't use it so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

not going to complain about that on the PR

only annoying thing is that I will have to rewrite my enum parsers if this really gets merged

because this looks like it would break: https://github.com/ChestShop-authors/ChestShop-3/blob/master/src/main/java/com/Acrobot/Breeze/Configuration/Configuration.java#L33-L41 xD

[topaz mortar]

It has to go. Would be better when it were with 1.13. 😉

[magic river]

TIL BMW drivers don't use their turn signals because they're awful

You can't turn them off without turning so if you put one on to change lanes then decide not to you get to drive with your signal on now

[limber knot]

I mean I have seen cars with such an auto-signal-turn-off but I'm pretty sure they all had manual ways to turn them off

but I haven't really sat in a car for 10 years now so maybe that changed lmao

[magic river]

The stalk on the BMW goes back to the center right away so you can't just push it back to turn off

[limber knot]

can't you just push it down?

[magic river]

And apparently pushing it the other way either puts both on (hazards) or just switches which side is blinking

I don't know if pushing the same way again turns it off

It's apparently not a 3 position switch or whatever though, it's like two buttons controlled by a stick with springs on it

[limber knot]

I feel like for such a big issue I don't find nearly enough posts about it on the internet

[magic river]

I dunno, this may have just been an excuse from a BMW driver but other people in the comments seemed to agree that was how it worked

[limber knot]

oh apparently you just push it again into the enable direction

[magic river]

Ok so pushing it down again would turn it off

[limber knot]

https://i.phoenix616.dev/gyQaU8yV.png

article is from 2021 so I assume it's for newer models: https://luxurycarsa2z.com/do-bmws-have-turn-signals/ xD

[magic river]

On the car the video was about the steering wheel also had a weird shape that made reaching for the stalk awkward if your wheel was already turned a bit

Like if you wanted to change lanes on a curve

[magic river]

Oh dang the MBP in my closet can't get upgraded to Ventura

[spiral robin]

@tired locust no problem. Please send me your residential address and social insurance number to confirm your identity

[golden gust]

"This is why mom doesn't fucking love you"

[magic river]

CanaryMod! That's the name

Should copy multiworld from that 😛

[steel crag]

how do i report someone in this discord for advertising via DM

[meager tusk]

why laugh at 11 year old you when you can laugh at current you

[unborn jay]

Anyone knows a plugin to change a sign wood type?
I try searching but I only get to change the text, and not, for example, change oak to crimson.

[cunning raft]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

impossible.

[meager tusk]

and other lies you tell yourself to cope

And country being run by little girl.

[spiral robin]

TRUE.

@meager tusk have you watched the dictator

[sullen drum]

I have a question.

Will paper for 1.19 be released like the same day as 1.19 or like after? I’m asking because like 300 people keep asking me.

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[jagged egret]

tell them you don't know

[ripe sphinx]

Definitely not same day

[jagged egret]

same as every release

[ripe sphinx]

it's weeks, not days

[spare venture]

300 people? answer a different time for each

[sullen drum]

Thanks.

[sullen drum]

Good idea 😆

[jagged egret]

ehehehe that's genius

[sullen drum]

Every time they ask I’ll just bring up a day. Lol

[jagged egret]

Or just say obscenely extreme times

Like "hey when does 1.19 come out" "uhh about 11 seconds"

[sullen drum]

😆 I should.

[potent wedge]

7/9/2023

11/9/23

[crystal lily]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/895#issuecomment-372175216

[unkempt drift]

man is it just me or is discord on linux just total crap performance wise

like hover actions seem to take forever

I haven't been on here in a while, mainly using my mac laptop nowadays, but just booted up my pc and its way slow

[spiral robin]

Ok

[silver nexus]

Yea it's unbearable at times...

[unkempt drift]

spreading misinformation right here

[jagged egret]

i mean technically it's still accurate

[lilac moon]

it should say below

[jagged egret]

true, but you shouldn't download the source code above either

I mean, mostly because you can't

[lilac moon]

yeah but its confusing to people that don't know

[tropic flame]

the real reason why System in the Control Panel just sends you into Windows Settings nowadays:

"Windows 10"

they couldn't even be bothered to change the logo

but they do have one for winver.exe

[meager tusk]

Yes bro.

[vernal moth]

Well, why would they touch the legacy menu?

[tropic flame]

idk but my muscle memory makes me want to come to System everytime I want to edit environment variables, and then I get sent to Settings and I get all confused because I can't find what I want

🤷

[abstract aspen]

~7 hours till 1.19 releases and server updating hell begins!

[tropic flame]

7 hours until I have to wait for Complementary Shaders again 😔

[abstract aspen]

Do they really break every update?

Most of the shader packs I use are over 3 years old

I kinda want to take a week or two vacation from work to make cool stuff for my server for 1.19

Might do that

[tropic flame]

idk much about shader packs tbh but I ain't letting my new GPU go to waste lol

but they seem to make a build for every version

[abstract aspen]

Yeah I noticed.
Maybe something to do with the new blocks that come each version dunno tho I too know nothing about shaders.

[tropic flame]

probably

Complementary Shaders brings its integrated PBR so that's probably why

[abstract aspen]

Ah yeah that'd be it

[ashen cliff]

Did you finally get a new PC?

[void void]

https://github.blog/changelog/2022-06-06-custom-repository-roles-are-now-ga/

[ashen cliff]

Very cool. Now, make sure the error codes actually reflect the roles you are missing.

Not some cryptic Google BS.

[vernal moth]

Uuuhhh

That's gonna make some people happy

[wide chasm]

Mojang didn't update the Java version they use to 18 for 1.19, did they?

[void void]

nope

[wide chasm]

Okay, then I don't need to check my configuration

[tropic flame]

oh nice, so now GitHub has decent permissions like gitlab?

kinda sucked that to let someone just view my private repo i had to add them as a collaborator and basically give them full access

... or perhaps I just suck at GitHub'ing

[twin lagoon]

they're slowly getting there

[vernal bone]

Might want to give it another try @ 2024

[mossy vessel]

Nice to have it available on the free tier too

[ashen cliff]

Have to do a free beta test somehow.

[frank otter]

fun fact something broke in Discord and they no longer server-side enforce channel names

so if you make requests yourself you can change channel names to literally anything

or like the android beta I seem to have doesnt validate client side for some reason so I can create weird names from the app itself

[ashen cliff]

The Android beta is a joke.

You didn't update the App for 2 days?
Yeah, let's just stop loading stuff until they update.

[frank otter]

this is cursed

[rare python]

Amazing

Goes to show that there is no reason for the character limitations.

[void void]

mentionability ig?

or this is just part of a plan to remove those restrictions

[golden gust]

little bobby kins

[rare python]

Hopefully

[golden gust]

oh, bobby tables

[abstract aspen]

How did they get a text channel with spaces?

[abstract aspen]

https://xkcd.com/327/

xkcd: Exploits of a Mom

Her daughter is named Help I'm trapped in a driver's license factory.

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Exploits of a Mom (10 October 2007) https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png

[void void]

Dkbay ^

you can use the android stable app or just call the api yourself

[abstract aspen]

oh neat

Guess I'll boot up my old S8 when I get home and do that

[limber knot]

inb4 they delete/break all servers that have invalid channel names Kappa

[ashen cliff]

They would.

[lilac moon]

Wait you can't even put spaces in channel names

this is hack

[wet storm]

let's generate a weird zalgo channel name, send it to the API and see what will happen /s

[limber knot]

you will probably only break the UI

[frank otter]

oh zalgo, now that's an idea

[wet storm]

but I doubt it'll even break the UI, cuz in usual messages discord nicely handles zalgo: l̎̅͂҉̢̹̲iͬ̈́̈́k̓̇͌ê̎ͣ҉̧̡̗ ͥͮͧtͤͥ̚҉͓̣̀h͌̓͂iͤ̅ͣsͣ͛̑

[void void]

the 100 character limit is still enforced btw

[frank otter]

ik it's sad because zalgo just seems to tag on extra chars

that's zalgo

[frank otter]

they for some reason stopped enforcing the thing server-side

so any client that doesn't validate client side can do whatever

[limber knot]

sounds like a discord thing

[cunning raft]

Is that still the case

Thought they fixed it

[limber knot]

they don't validate some permissions server side either lol

[frank otter]

idk if you could do this before but now you can put the ascii face thingies in chanel names

[lament patio]

The names accept a bunch of symbols, yeah

[void void]

it was fixed for a while

[limber knot]

I bet that breaks some bots lol

[void void]

but now it's also possible in the android client apparently, so might be wai?

[frank otter]

wai?

[void void]

working as intended

[frank otter]

feature not bug

[honest tulip]

how much time would it normally take for paper to update to 1.19 once it releases?

[frank otter]

you can have channel names as just one symbol,

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[vagrant marlin]

maybe its intended

[honest tulip]

sigh

[void void]

@cosmic raft could we get the eta goblin feeding back?

[wet storm]

bug = feature 1 × feature 2

we all know bugs are isomorphic for features

[limber knot]

'member జ్ఞా 👀

[wet storm]

ඞ

[abstract aspen]

https://forks.smhsmh.club/

is this down?

I can't access it

[vernal moth]

and nothing of value was lost

[abstract aspen]

I liked looking at it and showing it to people to explain the absolute insanity

[void void]

it's /forks now

[abstract aspen]

nvm I found it

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/saboooor/fork-graph/main/img.png

[vernal moth]

its not even accurate

[wind geyser]

It takes

[honest tulip]

takes

[rare python]

Yes, but it's funny, it shows how much of a mess Minecraft Servers are.

[vernal moth]

it shows more mess than there really is

and it includes stuff that is hardly relevant

and like, all those forks there have alternate current, not just whatever the fuck jettpack is, since paper includes alternate current

and listing 1.4k+ forks for paper is also incredibly stupid and conveys no info whatsoever

[void void]

fork from one of the yatopia devs iirc

[wet storm]

yes, it is

[rare python]

I mean one good question is how are they measuring the amount of forks

[void void]

Pretty sure they took it from the gh fork count, which is obviously not accurate

[unkempt drift]

Mirai hype

[rare python]

I mean ya, because you don't fork paper by forking paper, you fork paper by using paperweight.

[abstract aspen]

When is mirai production ready

[rare python]

Realistically there is no accurate way to measure the number of Paper forks.

[void void]

yeah there is

[wet storm]

prob connect bstats to paperweight is

[vernal moth]

just because I press the fork button doesn't mean I maintain an actual fork and should be counted

[vagrant marlin]

just because i missclicked the fork button means that i will maintain a fork actively

no way back,

[jade garnet]

So... I have been running my MC servers in Azure for a few months and Timings cost has been around 160... Just changed to a newer VM SKU family and it dropped to 116... Nice.

[rare python]

Oh no, I guess I maintain a paper fork now.

[mental meadow]

MC server in Azure

[jade garnet]

Yeah I know 😛

[vernal moth]

Paper(planes), flying thru a cloud near you

[ashen cliff]

Very cheap.

[abstract aspen]

A guy on my discord asked if I had updated my server to 1.19 yet so he could play

bro

The 1.19 client isn't even out yet

how

[rare python]

Snapshots clearly

[vagrant marlin]

must be living in the future

[wet storm]

fuck, me too bro.

[ashen cliff]

Just add Via and call it a day.

[jade garnet]

We're a NFP so it costs me nothing.

[abstract aspen]

is via even out yet? surely not right?

[void void]

via already supports snapshots

so it should be a simple protocol number change

[mossy vessel]

Yes? Excuse me? I demand you keep maintaining your forks!

[abstract aspen]

That's insane lol.

[void void]

and you can even predict that value, so it could already be released

[worthy geode]

Does changing the name count?

[ashen cliff]

Already done.

[vagrant marlin]

will velocity get a quick update to 1.19? has been that way with most versions so id assume its the same now too

[abstract aspen]

viaversion:

lmao

[void void]

there's a dev branch already, see #velocity-dev

[vagrant marlin]

ah, right

[void void]

when does 1.19 papermc release?

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[mental meadow]

dude

[vagrant marlin]

1.19 isnt even out yet

or well, maybe it is now

[wet storm]

fuck, its 7 june I forgor 💀

[void void]

1.19 is just out

[vagrant marlin]

right, and you are just asking

[ashen cliff]

Do we take the ProtocolSupport approach?
Delay for 1 day, every time someone asks.

[mental meadow]

you can't be serious

[vagrant marlin]

we are waiting for

• spigot
• make paper ready

[worthy geode]

bwe always writes all code in just under one minute

[vagrant marlin]

yes

[void void]

chill its just a question

[vagrant marlin]

which should have an obvious answer

that being: when its ready

[void void]

👏👍

🏆 heres your trophy

[mental meadow]

for further updates: #❗ 1.19

[void void]

thank you

[vagrant marlin]

also, 1.19 is out?

😭

[vernal moth]

day is starting strong

and no its obviously not out

[high quiver]

guys

1.19 wEn

[slender surge]

man's v excited for paper 1.19 to come out so they can start the wait for their plugins to update

it's urgent

[vagrant marlin]

3

[vernal moth]

whats the kick threshold today? any new user who asks gets the boot?

[wet storm]

tomorrow absolutely ngl

[vagrant marlin]

make the bot kick for saying the version

[mossy vessel]

version

[vernal moth]

haha could add it to automod

[vagrant marlin]

the ##rsion*

sorry almost said it

[wet storm]

if a sentence contains "1.19" and "when", then mute 999999 hours

[zenith maple]

o, 7 AM PT, 1.19 time

[high quiver]

119 wen

[vagrant marlin]

why not mute for 119 hours?

[rare python]

Just auto kick "1.19" and "when"

[vernal moth]

!kick @rare python

done

[rare python]

Nooo

[zenith maple]

he joked

[vagrant marlin]

no

[ashen cliff]

No.

[vagrant marlin]

peter has been kicked

peter no more

[ashen cliff]

Finally.

[rare python]

Honestly just lock the discord except for regulars

[wet storm]

wtf, what did you think #general is absolutely serious place

[void void]

we should just re-add the goblin feeding

[rare python]

Problem solved

[zenith maple]

now yes

[mental meadow]

[vagrant marlin]

define regulars

[vernal moth]

nah, can't kick peter, peter needs to build the paper logo on the test server again 😄

[rare python]

Lol

[void void]

he can do that without being in #general

[vagrant marlin]

do we get op on the test server?

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/gVb2MjwS-2022-06-07_16-07-06.png

[mental meadow]

hey Mini what about hangar

[ashen cliff]

Ayy. Finally.

[rare python]

I'm at college right now and I will be for at least the next 30 minutes

[vernal moth]

am still at work, finishing up somethng

then hangar

[rare python]

Then I gotta get the bus home

[vernal moth]

but I did already drive home

[slender surge]

people be askin "When 1.19"
real homies ask "How is 1.19 feeling?"

[vagrant marlin]

people arent asking for 1.19 in spigot's discord

the hell

[mental meadow]

imagine being in the spigot discord

[rare python]

I'm gonna get home like an hour after the launch :(

[vagrant marlin]

its full of weirdos

like, some seriously weird people

[worthy geode]

I tried helping people there for a while but it was very frustrating

[mental meadow]

if I wanna get hatespeeched I can just open twitter

[vagrant marlin]

spigot has a smaller ratio of offline-mode users though

those have moved on to paper

[golden gust]

Hey Aurora #3

[zenith maple]

i think offline-mode isnt bad, in Ukraine we have really little amount people who own minecraft

[vagrant marlin]

any1 got the bingo?

[radiant oriole]

0/10

[slender surge]

its kinda not acceptable that the unpaid paper contributers havent released a build for a version that isnt even out yet

[vagrant marlin]

yes

[slender surge]

tbh im gonna cancel on twitter

[vagrant marlin]

do we blame kenny or who?

[zenith maple]

o gimme few minutes

[slender surge]

What is acc the point of authme?

is it just for cracked servers?

[void void]

yes

[slender surge]

pain

[vagrant marlin]

its server-side auth

[wet storm]

obviously blame z750, gsand and aikar for that. /s

[mossy vessel]

I own the premium version of AuthMe

[vernal moth]

the what now

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel

[vagrant marlin]

authme premium

it has 2fa

[magic ice]

[vagrant marlin]

with microsoft authentication

[mossy vessel]

hello <3

[mental meadow]

someone called "michael nft" just DMd me @twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

buy my nft

[vagrant marlin]

i will buy it first

[void void]

and then he turned himself into an nft

funniest shit i've ever seen

[twin lagoon]

they don't call me DeFi King for nothing

[vagrant marlin]

i will own "Michael"

[mental meadow]

can you have nft gifs?

[wet storm]

origin realms nft wen?

[golden gust]

Hey

[mental meadow]

hey kitty

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6c4Nupnup0

[twin lagoon]

https://www.makeship.com/products/or-bit-plush

[zenith maple]

hehe

[mossy vessel]

Are they make to stock?

[worthy geode]

Oh no, it's actually quite cute

[twin lagoon]

yes

[vernal moth]

you know have to scream bingo and run in a circle

[mossy vessel]

What if I buy 50 👉 👈

[twin lagoon]

someone single handedly bought 56 already

[mossy vessel]

mfw

[vagrant marlin]

ll buy 57

[mossy vessel]

but nice one nevertheless

[vagrant marlin]

do you offer financing?

[worthy geode]

Do you get 57 in-game hats as well now?

[twin lagoon]

who can really say

[golden gust]

Have some #1 Aurora https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wULeXeQkqd0

[slender surge]

free java for bedrock users is cool

every1 now has official permission to say "No, I'm not gonna use geyser. Get java."

[worthy geode]

So they can experience the good version now

[zenith maple]

i had java, they gave bedrock. how useless..

[slender surge]

i just tried bedrock for first time

i'm uninstalling it now

[vagrant marlin]

the default servers on bedrock are fun to mess around in

otherwise its terrible

[rare python]

Everyone is bracing for the inevitable stream of "1.19 when?"

[worthy geode]

1.20 when?

[slender surge]

HOW IS 1.19 FEELING?

IDC WHEN

WHO IS 1.19? AS A PERSON? WHAT ARE THEIR DREAMS?

[mental meadow]

what is more annoying
1.19 when
or people making fun of 1.19 when?

[twin lagoon]

people are clearly waiting for the paper.iptables.sh 1.19 server

[signal skiff]

why devs dont do /release @a 1.19 ?? (jk)

[vagrant marlin]

paper 2.4 when?

[zenith maple]

smh, we already want 1.21

[worthy geode]

Combat update when 😦

[vernal moth]

instead of the answer to 1.19 when, I have the answer to 1.19 what for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FilshvX7SH8

[rare python]

Everyone asks when is 1.19, no one asks why is 1.19?

[vagrant marlin]

fireflies 😭

[frank otter]

how is 1.19?

[slender surge]

"New world gen, so you get to regen your world after just spending 4 days pregenning + dynmap rendering it cos u forgot 1.19 is coming out"

That's the 1.19 experience

im not salty

[void void]

wdym waiting, I already started my survival adventure!

[primal solar]

Answer it

[rare python]

Sitting in college canteen programming my plugin.

[jade garnet]

who is 1.19

[rare python]

LiveMap go brrrrrrr

[slender surge]

@twin lagoon iptables.sh?

[twin lagoon]

hello

[zenith maple]

i really got inspired with your socials page so i redisigned my to look like this https://i.imgur.com/f440Rqf.png

[slender surge]

what a domain name

[jade garnet]

God damn it Drax...

[twin lagoon]

looks neat

[zenith maple]

thanks

[slender surge]

Was ufw.sh taken?

[vagrant marlin]

i am playing on my 1.19 paper server

[steady jasper]

How is 1.19 that’s the real question

[twin lagoon]

@umbral tiger

tehlo where did your ufw.sh go

[slender surge]

sadddd

[mental meadow]

there is only one good domain I ever need and I already own it, now what else do i do with my life

[primal solar]

I personally like all they did with skulk and warden ngl

[slender surge]

damnnn .sh is expensive
i'd love like
forkbomb.sh
start.sh/run.sh
etc.

[twin lagoon]

don't even know how much .sh costs

[void void]

$30

[slender surge]

I wanted cptdi.no but .no domains are a PITA to get

[twin lagoon]

that's nothing

[jade garnet]

I see someone already has vim.sh

[twin lagoon]

you're paying yearly

[zenith maple]

.cat is cool too, for example fuckmy.cat

[twin lagoon]

[mental meadow]

auri.gay

[primal solar]

[mental meadow]

best one

[wet storm]

electronic.cat

[zenith maple]

letme.fuckmy.cat

[primal solar]

Agreed

[zenith maple]

xd

[primal solar]

[golden gust]

hahahhhaaaaaa

[jade garnet]

At least it's HTTPS...

[zenith maple]

yep

[golden gust]

My bro from another hoe lives in Ohio

[vagrant marlin]

electronic or non-electronic?

[golden gust]

There was a story about a man whom was thrown into jail for, erm... well, that

[zenith maple]

he is in the Ohio State University?

[primal solar]

His sex life shouldn't have been tampered with

[rare python]

Any ideas on how the chat changes will be delt with, I assume it depends on what mess Spigot decide to do.

[vagrant marlin]

ill use the chat changes to collect as much data about my players and sell that data to fbi

what about you?

[void void]

probably a new event with the old event becoming read-only

or at least I hope

[rare python]

Chat Events: 6 7

[primal solar]

Wait till md 5 fucks it up

[golden gust]

I mean, we'll have to see what spigot does

[magic ice]

I don’t think we’ll get that lucky

[golden gust]

making the chat events read only is not an ultra viable thing to do in the scope of things

[mental meadow]

to quote paper internal:

Inb4 he just returns null on everything as a way to "ignore it".

[golden gust]

Like, maybe down the line, but, for now, bleh

But, I can't really see him supporting that mess with the legacy chat events

no matter what you do there it's gonna break practically every chat plugin

[mental meadow]

surprise spigot switches to adventure

[worthy geode]

Completely making them read only would also make the preview useless

[vagrant marlin]

§e§lThis is the best way to format anything.

can you guess what §e is only based on the letter?

[void void]

yellow, duh

[vagrant marlin]

ahh

[rare python]

Honestly though I would just do is leave the current events as is, deprecate them, and discard the auth thingy if those events are used.

[magic ice]

nah nah, gotta have that §x for rgb colors

[worthy geode]

Jokes on you, good chat plugins just send system messages

[vagrant marlin]

§F§F§F§F§F

the best way for rgb

[rare python]

Alternatively remove the old events and tell everyone to deal with it

[primal solar]

And there are no diseases

😳

[wet storm]

happy ending: md_5 is tired of block game development, he is no longer interested in it and gives papermc a control over spigot and bukkit/cb so no hardfork needed

[zenith maple]

waiting room xd

[vernal moth]

wait, does mojang acknowledge bukkit exists?

https://i.imgur.com/LiZXkJg.png

[void void]

I don't think there's a single timeline where that'd happen

[golden gust]

I mean

they do own bukkit

[vernal moth]

well yes

but still

thats a nice reference

[quiet mesa]

XD

[jade garnet]

Paper plane reference when 🙂

[zenith maple]

theyre forcing to auth in microsoft store to play bedrock on win10.
thanks, i won't

[magic ice]

I mean

[zenith maple]

local windows user is cooler than microsoft user

[magic ice]

you have to buy the game

xd

[zenith maple]

i have java ed

i have this too

[worthy geode]

And you need an MS account anyways so yeah

[zenith maple]

yes i told that

[magic ice]

but tbh you’ll get bedrock for free if you own java in the next day or two

[zenith maple]

its already out

no?

[magic ice]

or whenever Mojang releases that which should be very soon

I think the announcement was done a few days ago

But not sure if it’s available already

[worthy geode]

Lots of people probably still have it from back when bedrock released

[zenith maple]

when i updated my launcher today. it popped up that done

[mental meadow]

don't think it's out already

[vernal moth]

the launcher just got an update with a news post dated for tomorrow

[charred sleet]

lol

[vernal moth]

about this

[zenith maple]

oki will see

but if they gonna force to have launcher from microsoft store meaning i have to auth in my microsoft account on my system, i wont

[worthy geode]

But you would still need to buy the mobile versions for Android/iOS, right?

[zenith maple]

kekw

[zenith maple]

yep

btw i use cracked mobile bedrock

[worthy geode]

Yeah. Pretty much useless then

[mental meadow]

🤡

[worthy geode]

Java for bedrock players is nice though. But I don't really think there are many java players that would want to play bedrock on PC

[zenith maple]

xd

[vagrant marlin]

i cant even play bedrock

linux 😳

[wet storm]

same

[brave mountain]

F5!!!

[zenith maple]

that's bad devs dont care

[vagrant marlin]

what devs?

microsoft? its microsoft

[brave mountain]

They really don't like people switching to Linux

[zenith maple]

i told devs just because i dont know its from microsoft company or their mojang lead

[wet storm]

pov: you are a linux user

[mental meadow]

I mean it's called Minecraft for Windows

[wet storm]

for windows

[vagrant marlin]

pov: the minecraft launcher sucks

[worthy geode]

The launcher is fine :/

[brave mountain]

Hopefully someone will make a custom launcher.

[zenith maple]

pov you have both

[vagrant marlin]

uhh... uhmm... polymc?

[vagrant marlin]

multimc sucks 🤮

[wet storm]

startmc.sh is the best launcher, ngl

[zenith maple]

my players like ultimMC because its cracked xd

i use multi

[mossy vessel]

Imagine displaying a "for Windows" tab on OSs that aren't windows lol

[brave mountain]

Actually even multimc is recommended over the oficial launcher on the mc discord

[vagrant marlin]

ultimMC 🤨

[umbral tiger]

oi

[twin lagoon]

tehlo

[worthy geode]

Why everyone hating on the poor vanilla launcher

[brave mountain]

I mean bedrock launcher for Linux

[vernal moth]

I prefer the vanilla launcher over multimc, lol

[vagrant marlin]

it decides when to work and not work

[wet storm]

I think vanilla launcher is better than everything, at least it looks good

[vagrant marlin]

and just randomly takes a year to launch

[ashen cliff]

Not after it wipes all of your profiles for the 7th god damn time.

[vagrant marlin]

right

[void void]

theres a way to get bedrock working on linux, it runs off an android emulator

[vagrant marlin]

i know

[mental meadow]

!warn @zenith maple Discussing piracy is not allowed, read our community rules

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned Fanyatsu#3350 (Discussing piracy is not allowed, read our community rules) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

[brave mountain]

You love login everytime lol

[zenith maple]

im ukrainian, whats then? still iron rules?

[vagrant marlin]

why would the rules change?

[rare python]

Real gamers use polymc

[worthy geode]

Vanilla launcher works fine, it's fast, it has multiple profiles, you can change skins, it has multi account support, it shows a game log. All I need. And at least it has decent UI

[brave mountain]

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/6613754674829-Minecraft-The-Wild-Update-1-19-0-Bedrock-

[visual egret]

we love the new Minecraft launcher

[void void]

also with multi/polymc u can just install modloaders and modpacks in one click so its cooler

[visual egret]

I can’t use multimc lmfao

[worthy geode]

Fabric installer is also just one click tho

[umbral tiger]

I honestly have no idea

I cant find it lol

[wet storm]

am russian, rules are identical for everyone

[visual egret]

mojang support kept on ignoring what I was telling them then stopped replying

[void void]

well you have to go on their website and do stuff like that buh buh buh

i just want it in my launcher

[zenith maple]

why russian. ok wait

[brave mountain]

What's the difference between multi?

[vagrant marlin]

why russian? cus he was born there

[void void]

multi/polymc looks worse aesthetically tho i give you that

[worthy geode]

Even if he was from Antarctica, rules would still apply the same

[vagrant marlin]

also, salute for the velocity discord server

https://tenor.com/view/salute-respect-serious-gif-16000153

[vagrant marlin]

deleted today

[zenith maple]

@wet storm check

[rare python]

PolyMC Devs actually know what open source is.

[vagrant marlin]

how is that relevant, may i ask?

[brave mountain]

I will give it a try

[zenith maple]

huh?

[void void]

uhh linux packaging is more convenient and there are different maintainers that are less hostile

i dont think it really matters on windows tho

[vagrant marlin]

a picture of your passport

how is that relevant to whatever is going on here 🤨

[zenith maple]

you called me russian. thats like insult

[vagrant marlin]

dont remember doing that

[mental meadow]

dude

[void void]

no one called you russian lol

[mental meadow]

am stands for I am

[zenith maple]

oki

[vagrant marlin]

thats not me, and he didnt call you russian

[zenith maple]

i thought it was something like "amm.." but short

[void void]

no thats not a thing in written english language used on the internet

"umm" is used instead in this context

[zenith maple]

mainly i speak to norwegians and people from asian countries

so they cant me teach much english

[void void]

learn cultural cues before getting offended at the slightest thing lol

[vernal moth]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/the-wild-update-out-today-java

smh they early

[hasty jay]

... ready for the eta storm? :D

[vagrant marlin]

where is it??? WHERE IS IT???

curse you mojang!

[zenith maple]

just gonna wait for 7th July then think about paper

[void void]

here it comes

[zenith maple]

yeah

[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/the-wild-update-out-today-java

[magic river]

Why isn't paper 1.20 out yet?

[visual egret]

all of my infra is still configured to run 1.17.2 😭 pain

[golden gust]

bloody bukkit devs

[charred sleet]

paper forks vanilla and adds new features

[mental meadow]

where's Bukkit?????

[vernal moth]

blame your stupid launcher ^^

[void void]

im going to install everything thats unstable and bleeding edge and corrupt my world

[vagrant marlin]

yeah but where is paper 1.19?

kek

[rare python]

@quasi valley remember to rebase this time

[visual egret]

you need to wait another hour for multimc to update their things

[vagrant marlin]

no!

i blame you and you for this

[visual egret]

ye it’s all my fault

[void void]

note to self: try running stuff with runReobf this time

[charred sleet]

that seems fine

[vagrant marlin]

ugh fine

[wet storm]

do registries explicitly expanded somewhere in datapacks or it is just "devs, we have an internal feature, use it smartly."?

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/rt6PJeY.png

[void void]

Frogs can croak

[vernal moth]

fun

[visual egret]

frogs?

[charred sleet]

is that a dirt skin?

[golden gust]

I mean

[mental meadow]

good thing we already changed the discord banner :)

[golden gust]

mojang literally added the preview and probably the chat type registry for server owners

[visual egret]

that was quick