general

[foggy silo]

Yeah, it's especially useful if you have VERY little changes that you'd rather not create a whole fork for 👀

[golden gust]

We do kinda want mixins but they'd be under the "forge coremod" rules

[foggy silo]

repo? Google isn't being helpful

[void void]

we could turn purpur into a plugin!

[twin lagoon]

https://github.com/vectrix-space/ignite

[void void]

https://github.com/vectrix-space/ignite

🥷

[foggy silo]

thanks

[void void]

maintaining mixins across paper builds would be a bit of a pain tho

especially when leaf rewrites an entire part of the server

[magic river]

So when https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm actually has something in it (if ever) and it's just some really complicated pseudo-code/spec description of how things work do you think people will actually believe it?

[placid thicket]

weird request, anyone got a mod or plugin that can decay an entire world? at the end of our season we want to do a zombie apocalypse type thing where everyone's bases are ruined and they will have to try to scavenge bits and pieces from ruined bases and half emptied chests type thing

[hollow otter]

In the versions folder, how can I edit the paperspigot .jar without patching it again?

[unkempt drift]

theres a paperspigot jar in the versions folder?

[hollow otter]

yes

[magic river]

What is paperspigot?

[magic river]

I don't get it but I'm going to share it anyway because that's apparently how this works

[thorn bramble]

I’m new to the whole newer versions of Minecraft. I currently run a modded 1.7.10 thermos server and I was wondering if there is any development of a 1.18 forge + plug-ins being worked on. I tried looking around but couldn’t find anything on it.

[wraith trail]

sponge, but not bukkit/spigot/paper plugins

there is no sane solution for bukkit plugins + forge mods

[thorn bramble]

So sponge has a way?

[magic river]

Sponge is Bukkit 2.0

None of the plugins from Bukkit/Spigot/Paper will work there though

But it does have a plugin API to do similar (and a lot more) things

And there are some "standard" plugins available

[crimson flint]

I’m not an idol you can have the fame back!!!

I don’t wanna hear yo music boy you can’t rap!!

[foggy veldt]

Lol weverse is trending because apparently all the kpop stans are planning to move there

[potent wedge]

Paper VR doit

[amber cosmos]

hey were is electronicat or something like that? I wanted to sent them a <3.

I thought they was a Paper cat.

[viral hornet]

<3

[wet storm]

E>

Imagine implementing plugin loader api to support plugins with mixins💀 💀 💀 the only way I see is to forbid it cuz really unsafe

average skull emoji users💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[rotund cargo]

And someone is doing an automatic fabric modconvertor for ignite 😮

[frank otter]

has the repo vanished?

I cant get at it

[wet storm]

Let's make forge out of paper

[ashen cliff]

It has. It was a joke, since Musk wanted to publish the algorithm, but someone internally published it before him... indicating that they don't have one.

[wet storm]

Paper client wen?

[warm anchor]

[wet storm]

Paper chan hentai OVA wen? /s

[left swift]

actually cringe

[stiff wadi]

what does OVA even mean?

[proud lance]

Original video animation probably

Or ovaries

[wet storm]

Original video animation

[worthy geode]

Not the protein found in white eggs? sad

[worn ember]

while(egg) yes

[warm anchor]

||https://www.paper-chan.moe/r34||

[wet storm]

👉 👈

[dapper pumice]

give me Kitties access
please?

[novel horizon]

you should not really post these things here in public channel

[smoky cloud]

No no

This is the place

[brave mountain]

🥵

[wet storm]

Oh, I see, paper chan hentai OVA is trending in the r34 category, thanks, I am watching it rn, pretty interesting hentai plot with tuinity chan, can't wait until yatopia chan arrives /s

[worn ember]

wouldnt that be the incest child?

[warm anchor]

You guys are weird

[golden gust]

one of us, one of us

[warm anchor]

Yatopia chan…. I’d imagine it looks something like this

[void void]

hello

where i can talk with Aikar about this?

i have issues with old gen i guess

the memory goes up to 9GB (it will stay up to 9GB even with 0 players), the memory increase only when players join the server

and when it reach 9GB the server crash, but the weird part is that when i'm generating a heapdump or a heapsummary using Spark, the memory will go down to real usage (1-max 2GB)

so i don't think it's a memory leak but a GC problem

[warm anchor]

Your container config is probably bad if it crash when it uses 9G

Post actual spark link so we don’t have to go by a useless screenshot

[void void]

https://spark.lucko.me/1wPSRTTpYB

that's the heapsummary

[warm anchor]

You do realize you ain’t using paper nor a supported version right?

[dapper pumice]

what is nacho spigot? XD

[warm anchor]

I’d just look into if you are using any sort of container /ptreo and the Config for memory limit is correct but you should ask your fork maintainer for help

[void void]

i don't think it's related to paper or other fork, i tested with all forks (including paper)
the reason i ask for help here if because i saw in Aikar thread to contact him here about OLD GC

[magic river]

Yeah good luck with that

I think the last time he said anything in here was like a year ago

[warm anchor]

[void void]

😭

[shut merlin]

actually it was the beginning of February :p

not as bad

[magic river]

Ok, yeah, he occasionally pops in and says hi, basically

[shut merlin]

lol

[magic river]

He isn't actively looking at this server, talking to people on it, or working on Paper (or MC stuff at all, afaik)

[warm anchor]

Only one old gen every 8 hour just restart your server every 7 hour

😉

[void void]

should i ping him?

[warm anchor]

No

[void void]

okay

[magic river]

Dude burned out and wants to do something else but sure ping him about the thing he doesn't want to do anymore

[shut merlin]

lmao

[warm anchor]

People moves on and it’s fine. There will be new bloods

[magic river]

Sometimes people come back too but bugging them about it doesn't make that happen

[smoky cloud]

https://github.com/kangarko/ChatControl-Red/issues/1864#issuecomment-1109790729

Why do I feel like this course is going to be shit

[brave mountain]

and 1.8.8 noone can help you

[quasi valley]

@vernal moth Are you kidding? I am always open to discussion, Paper just locked their issue completely. Look again before posting troll comments you fool.

[true canyon]

Some people have tried his stuff and been very unimpressed. Others walk away from it overconfident in their abilities but shackled to a nightmare library of pain with no awareness of proper technique

[smoky cloud]

Sounds about right

You’re not learning Java, you’re learning a library

[brave mountain]

I don't have any problems with chc btw

too much noise for a silly thing

[smoky cloud]

It seems to me like they didn't know how the API worked and blamed Paper for it working as intended

Why would a logger understand colours...

[golden gust]

Yea, there was literally never any issues with paper there

OP said that they broke their logger config

[vestal jasper]

Cognitive bias

[smoky cloud]

How DARE Paper break a deprecated API (which they didn't) that I was using incorrectly!

[vestal jasper]

Paper breaking stuff fits in with their beliefs so they're eager to jump to blame paper for their woes

Adventure is a fucking blessing to work with

[golden gust]

It's not even API

Craftbukkit did the weird thing of making the logger deal with section symbols rather than the console sender

[vestal jasper]

CB, the impl. They should be more knowledgeable on the topics they are trying to teach.

[little frost]

as we all know the definition of an api break is when you change anything at all (https://xkcd.com/1172/)

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Workflow (11 February 2013) https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/workflow.png

[smoky cloud]

Do you think I'll get banned from their GH project if I post that as a comment?

[void void]

no, he's open to discussion and hasn't locked his issue completely.

[worn ember]

if i fork something and pretty much completely change the use case, is it still a good idea to fork?

[vestal jasper]

Discussion: communicating to another person and ignoring their side completely

[worn ember]

paper general in a nutshell

[vestal jasper]

#paper-help

In a nutshell

[brave mountain]

don't fuel the flame, kidoo

[vestal jasper]

⛽

[magic river]

Huh, apparently sometimes when you order something from the walmart website they just grab it from a nearby store and have someone drive it over

I think I've realized this before

[brave mountain]

efficiency

[warm anchor]

Don’t they also use 3rd party delivery like doordash or something

[vestal jasper]

Yeah they usually do

[magic river]

Dialup flashbacks

[vernal moth]

Lmao I only saw the ping on my phone in a meeting and was confused for a solid minute

[warm anchor]

Mini thought he fucked up something

[magic river]

I guess I just don't get good internet anymore

[vernal moth]

today was not a good day at work, lol

[warm anchor]

Oh shit

[vernal moth]

and tomorrow ill deploy 16 apps to prod, I will need a solid helmet for that 😄

[magic river]

27.5862% packet loss

[warm anchor]

Hey at least you know at maximum only 16 things can go wrong tomorrow

[vernal moth]

you forget that these are services used by other apps, cascading failure is possible 😄

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

[vernal moth]

its only a couple of base updates, java updates, spring updates, internal libs, migrating from openshift to rancher, etc, I didnt touch actual code

but yeah will be fun

scheduled deployments for 6 am and ill plan to be at my PC at like 7 to access damage 😂

scheduled the change for 16 hours so I dont need to hotfix if something is broken ^^

[magic river]

Shouldn't this be a join?

[worn ember]

That's an inner join

I think it's called an inline join or something

Might have to do a group by? Ion kno

It's been too long

So thankful i get to use linq these days

[limber knot]

has anyone tried to get an education edition client to be able to join the java server? As far as I can tell it seems to be basically Bedrock but not just quite. 👀

[magic river]

SELECT m.Contestant1_ID, b.Bot_Name, m.MatchupID
FROM Matchups as m
INNER JOIN Bots as b ON b.Bot_ID = m.Contestant1_ID

Assuming you only want to result a result when you have a bot name

[smoky cloud]

I think there's a fork of Geyser that supports it

[magic river]

Otherwise you want LEFT JOIN

[limber knot]

👀

[worn ember]

Ofc there is a fork of it 😂😂

[smoky cloud]

[limber knot]

just found this https://github.com/bundabrg/GeyserReversion 👀

not quite a fork

[neon bramble]

Good GH

[vernal moth]

GitHub didn't mark it as spam, kangarooooo did

[warm anchor]

[neon bramble]

Oh lol, I thought it was done by some super duper GH algo

~~Hey, am I missing something?

    public T constructDefault(Object key) {
        return defaultConstructor == null ? null :
                defaultConstructor.apply(key);
    }

java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.util.function.Function.apply(Object)" because "defaultConstructor" is null
```~~ NVM

[lavish compass]

what on earth is that SQL naming

[warm anchor]

oh yes the wedge destoryer

[magic river]

The only way the statement wouldn't return a matchup ID is if that column was null

So either you have bad data, modified the query, or you're not using the result correctly

[fervent rune]

Same issue here.

[magic river]

Ok, so it doesn't seem like the column is null

That leaves you modified the query or you're reading the result wrong

Like, I'm terrible at SQL but I'm pretty sure there is no possible way it just wouldn't give you anything for that column

You asked for that column (unless you modified the query) so you'll either get the right value, get NULL, or get a SQL error because the query is broken

I don't know what you're trying to show me but I want you to run that query manually and see the result

Not in some tool, mysql REPL/console

Well, I guess phpMyAdmin would be okay too, I think it has a console screen you can do that with

So yeah, you're reading the result wrong

Since you can see the matchup id is there

[spiral robin]

huh

[left swift]

huh

[rare python]

pov: you forgot to close your files

[stuck lynx]

Fun fact:
more people like burgers than I do

[rare python]

What.

Either that made no sense or it did and I am more tired then I thought.

[stuck lynx]

First

[mossy vessel]

Mfw chrome idling at 170M

[left swift]

that's cool nmf

[mossy vessel]

Looks like I'm using chrome wrong to not eat all my ram

[left swift]

skill issue obviously

[unkempt drift]

New health tip just dropped. https://twitter.com/culturecrave/status/1519026370243743745?s=21&t=Y2RSnmLqOjZoDsGTUgOnmA

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave)

Megan Fox confirms she and Machine Gun Kelly drink each other’s blood

“It’s just a few drops, but yes, we do consume each other’s blood on occasion for ritual purposes only"

(via @glamourmag)

Likes

5661

Retweets

669

Twitter · Apr 26, 2022, 6:51 PM

[golden gust]

wasn't megan fox like, looong history of weird shit?

[unkempt drift]

Yeah, but this is the top of the list right?

Drinking partners blood for ritualistic purposes?

[golden gust]

I mean

She's kinda cutting the shock factor with a dull blade at this point

[unkempt drift]

He’s much more haphazard and hectic and chaotic, where he’s willing to just cut his chest open with broken glass and be like, ‘Take my soul’

[warm anchor]

Man. That’s what it take now to get on news??

[left swift]

I would cut my chest with glass if it meant megan fox would love me, too

[golden gust]

I mean

that kinda sounds like a requirement

[left swift]

cat can u info me so I can see my join date for this discord

gfdi

say the name once now all you see

also tf Virginia

[meager tusk]

modern america

[still sorrel]

I have to wait 2 extra days for my balanced audio cables arrive at the wrong address

importing them already took a month

man fuck

it somehow went to the wrong address

my headphones are crippled without one of these

a stupid 2 meter cable costs 60 euros

heck even a 15cm 4.4 to 4.4 balanced cable costs 25 euros

balanced stuff is expensive

no these are actually cheap

like stupid official cable is 70 euros

importing hand made cables from Cyprus was actually cheaper

the official one is a scam

I paid like 75 in total now for 2 cables

literally not even a single store in The Netherlands sold these cables

[left swift]

[twin lagoon]

70 eur is not $140 usd or even close to that wtf

[still sorrel]

my headphone amplifier outputs more power through balanced

and my dac is better via balanced too

its always amazing how much international shipping can go wrong

[left swift]

.wa 70 euro to usd

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) error: missing api key

[left swift]

smh

[twin lagoon]

just add like 10% to the amount

[still sorrel]

6%

to be more precise

man

my amp is on like 5% of what it can output

if I turn it any louder I'll blow my headphones up

or rather it gets so loud it gets uncomfortable

[left swift]

[coarse lily]

What are you plugging that into that it needs to be balanced?

[still sorrel]

HiFiMan Edition XS

Wait 4.4 to 4.4

My dac has a balanced output

And amp takes a balanced input

[coarse lily]

And you're using 3.5mm for that?

[still sorrel]

RCA rn to connect my dac and amp

I need a 4.4 to 3x3.5mm for my headphones

Currently using 6.35mm single end to 2x3.5mm for my headphones

[coarse lily]

Haha never heard anyone call it 6.35mm vs 1/4"

[still sorrel]

Dont use freedom units

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

break your nico nico kneecaps

[potent wedge]

It didn't fail because without an API key it wouldn't be able to send the message lmao

[still sorrel]

I wish dolby surround sound was ok on my headphones

The natural imaging capabilities on modern headphones kinda make it obsolete

[tired heath]

Can somebody explain me how Java manages to guarantee double and long writes (both guaranteed 8 Bytes) to be atomic (in one write step to memory) if they are defined as "volatile" even on 32 Bit machines where the word size is only 4 Bytes? https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-17.html#jls-17.7

I mean I take it as it is, just curious how the JVM manages to guarantee it along different platforms and maybe multi processor boards

[marble lark]

Atomic::store and Atomic::release_store iirc

Small error in that page, HotSpot is the name of the official JVM, not the compilers (which have the very original names of C1 and C2)

I think this is for doubles, but I'm not very well versed with the atomic parts of HotSpot:

template<>
template<typename D, typename I>
inline D Atomic::PlatformAdd<4>::fetch_and_add(D volatile* dest, I add_value, atomic_memory_order order) const {
  STATIC_ASSERT(4 == sizeof(I));
  STATIC_ASSERT(4 == sizeof(D));
  D old_value;
  __asm__ volatile (  "lock xaddl %0,(%2)"
                    : "=r" (old_value)
                    : "0" (add_value), "r" (dest)
                    : "cc", "memory");
  return old_value;
}

[tired heath]

aa yes it lock it I guess

"The LOCK prefix ensures that the CPU has exclusive ownership of the appropriate cache line for the duration of the operation, and provides certain additional ordering guarantees."

Yes, makes sense now, thanks

[marble lark]

well

to be fair you sort of had it coming if you delete a folder named firmware

or anything in sys to be honest

[coarse lily]

I don't think we want to tell people they "deserve it" when stuff goes poorly for them.

Kind of a jerk move.

[vernal moth]

its not a jerk move, its the linux mentality

runs

[vernal moth]

urg, anyone know if I can change ARG_MAX in git bash?

shitty work env

[coarse lily]

rm -rf /home/minidigger/

[vernal moth]

done, now what?

😄

[wet storm]

I mean, you, as a usual java developer shouldn't care about jvms, if you'll dig into it, you'll find that volatile reads and writes surrounded by memory fences, and for every cpu architecture they are unique, for example, powerpc have hwsync memory barrier iirc, which is really strong and says: "this thing needs definitely be synchronized" but it is an implementation detail, it is an implementation of JMM which says you: "volatile reads and writes are sequential consistent", and, there are also different allowed thread safe accesses provided by java VarHandles API which stays behind java.util.concurrent.atomic classes, such as release/acquire and opaque...

[coarse lily]

Sorry Mini, I don't use Windows so I can't actually help.

[vernal moth]

I know how you can help, I decided I can just delete half the files

I think I wanna delete everything with an understore in it?

find should help, right?

the command encapsulates my mood

find /c/Gothaer/Temp/sadservice-prod-clean/ -name '*__*' -delete

how is arg list still too long?!

max is 32k, am at under 10k now, was at 34k

[lean kiln]

maybe try a loop?

[vernal moth]

my issue is I need to pass a folder to kubectl

but when I pass the folder, it says error: one of src or dest must be a local file specification

[lean kiln]

sounds fun

[vernal moth]

so in the other envs I used shell expansion

now in prod that doesnt seem to work anymore for some dum reason, even after limiting the amount of files

I did staging on monday with 26k files...

relative folder path seems to work, thank god

needs to get this running before my users wake up 😄

[spiral robin]

goodnight @swift root

[vernal moth]

mfw my users did upload links

fff46988-4eeb-4d0a-a9a3-5c3d954f8314.lnk

I cant

[swift root]

@spiral robin gn!

[foggy veldt]

night @foggy veldt

gn man

[left swift]

I thought these jokes weren't allowed!

[wet storm]

What do you guys think about dutch language? How it sounds, its grammar, its complexity, is it a mix of english and german, etc.?

[worn crest]

Mix of German and english

[vernal moth]

I always describe it as a drunk german trying to speak english

or, throwing english and german into a pod and then grabbing the worst of both out of it to create a new language

runs

[wet storm]

@ Noah

[worn crest]

Frank, Noah, opinion?

[coarse lily]

Making an obvious joke to Mini (that he understands) is different than saying "you deserve stuff breaking/being deleted/going missing/etc"

If Mini said "Wow my laptop failed and I a bunch of data" and I said "You deserve it for not having backups" then I'm acting like a jerk.

[magic river]

Decided fuck it, I really want to use Fedora Silverblue now

Just spent like 5 hours trying to get it set up and I can't run my docker containers 😄

Problem is you're expected to do things inside of a container normally (that's where you install all your utilities and such) and then I'm trying to run more containers from in there that share files with the host oh and Fedora is big on SELinux

I can probably fix it by just disabling SELinux but bleh

Just screens and screens of error TS5033: Could not write file '/opt/node_app/app/dist/async-map.js': EACCES: permission denied, mkdir '/opt/node_app/app/dist'.

I should probably just wipe this and install regular Fedora though

I'll give it another shot when it's not 3am though first

[magic river]

nvidia are dicks with that, their devices rely on firmware to do a lot of things beyond the basics of being a VESA framebuffer but the firmware has to be signed and the only way to get signed firmware is in their proprietary driver

afaik the license doesn't even allow you to manually pull that firmware out and use it with the open source driver either

[void void]

Missing wolfram alpha api key, not discord

[vernal moth]

PR or shut up https://github.com/MiniDigger/CloudBot/blob/master/docker/config.json#L74

(if anyone wanna donate API keys, I can set them up as secrets)

if they cant be public

[rare python]

IRC is bad though

[full rune]

no

[rare python]

Yes

[worn ember]

we all know what the R in IRC stands for

[mental meadow]

rock'n'roll

[worn ember]

Roomba

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/UmtA4msJ-2022-04-27_12-55-07.png

[lament patio]

Refrain

[mental meadow]

We are aware of the issues, however, we choose to ignore them

[rare python]

Where is that lol

[mental meadow]

I've successfully uninstalled League of Legends
finally I can see the sun again
it is a beautiful day
i can hear birds outside

anyway

[left swift]

poor Aurora

[vernal moth]

I have still not installed any games on this new OS install, lol

[mental meadow]

i am here to suffer

[foggy veldt]

I have been playing Control, fun game def recommend

[charred sleet]

so you’re telling me that you don’t have 15 different C++ redistributables

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/LCDfyIa.png

[left swift]

it's already started

[vernal moth]

well, those are fine

those are the modern ones

[charred sleet]

fantastic

[vernal moth]

theres no reason to have anything but those two I listed

you can uninstall the old ones and it shouldnt change anything

[charred sleet]

i assume they are just from games depending on them

so i would imagine that they would just get reinstalled

[vernal moth]

run %JAVA_HOME%\bin\java.exe --version

[mental meadow]

what no why bin there

java_home should be with bin already?

[vernal moth]

oh right javahome shouldnt have bin

thats the issue

[mental meadow]

shouldn't it?

I thought it should

[vernal moth]

nope

[charred sleet]

it turns out that was the issue

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/9mAYK1o.png

[charred sleet]

thanks

[rare python]

Imagine using Windows 11

[vernal moth]

what else would I use?

[left swift]

windows vista

[charred sleet]

nah windows 11 is nice

daily driven it for a long time, loved it and not had any issues

only thing i dislike is the right click menu on things like explorer

[vernal moth]

which you can fix

[charred sleet]

for sure, i just havent

[mental meadow]

win11 is nice

mostly

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/ZgDiFeo.png

[left swift]

is it just overall better to turn a shittop into a chromebook instead of it using windows 10/11

[mental meadow]

well yea

[charred sleet]

o.O

look nice

[vernal moth]

its just overall better to not own a shittop

[left swift]

well it's my mom's she just uses it for netflix and facebook

piece of shit though

[vernal moth]

my mom daily drives a surface go

[left swift]

just thinking of ways to make it less "come fix it"

[vernal moth]

am still surprised how nice that thing is

[charred sleet]

i hate the chromebooks that we have to use at college

they own about 800 of them

the ones they just bought look a lot nicer, but some of the earlier ones look so like "My childs first computer"

the rounded corners tho

And chromeOS is just a glorified web browser

[vernal moth]

https://youtu.be/yrxaXJ30BtA

Fuck this is good

[left swift]

lol

[toxic peak]

umm i have a confusion that paper mc is cross play?

[silver nexus]

It is not, GeyserMC will allow for cross-platform though.

[vernal moth]

Murica!

[left swift]

I mean

the fact that they own a gun and didnt go through gun safety is the real problem

but florida moment

[crisp sinew]

dogs are better

[twin lagoon]

banger

[quick obsidian]

made a simple json/yaml kotlin DSL

config {
  "a" to 1
  "b" to 2
  "c" to config {
      "d" to 3
  }
}

which gives a full config object, json or yaml depending on what you specify (eg config(type = ConfigType.JSON)):

a: 1
b: 2
c:
  d: 3

{
  "a": 1,
  "b": 2,
  "c": {
    "d": 3
  }
}

about 7 lines of code on top of the existing config system, im happy with it

[dim kelp]

Anyone here know how to converet **LITEMATIC **to SCHEMATIC?

[neon pine]

Does anyone know what this login plugin is?
I've seen it before is a core
minetoday.org

[untold copper]

its

tomorrow

aaaa

[left swift]

core

snoopa huh havent seen u in forever

hows ur no diet ab workout going

better start working harder instead of posting pics

[tropic flame]

the first one looks like HOCON but with "to"

[quick obsidian]

first one's kotlin lol

[thorny mesa]

anyone know an anti cheat plugin for my server?

[smoky cloud]

Themis, LAC, SoaromaSAC, Grim; are the ones I’m aware of

Though I’ve only actually used Grim

[thorny mesa]

can u use multiple at once?

or does that not help

[left swift]

no

[thorny mesa]

im very new to all this so thanks for the help

[left swift]

dont use spartan

[thorny mesa]

so what should I use?

[smoky cloud]

Isn’t Spartan the one that fucks your performance?

[vernal moth]

Spartan is the one with the dev that fucks you if you complain about it's performance

[left swift]

just search "spartan" in the bar and you'll see why

why you trolling

[vestal jasper]

Idk, I like my anticheats logging my IP without my knowledge

[thorny mesa]

everyone talking about different ones which ones should I use for the best performance and also works well?

[left swift]

for a standard server nocheatplus and the captainobvious config have been fine

just make sure you have staff that aren't 3heads

[thorny mesa]

k

[left swift]

if you run a pvp server probably look at something else and go off reviews idk

[thorny mesa]

im trying to run an anarchy server

no hacking anarchy

it can still be anarchy without people cheating?

[left swift]

whose got a good despair emote

[smoky cloud]

I will say, Grim has no combat checks (at present), so if you want PvP, don’t use it

[thorny mesa]

alright thanks

what is ur server?

[left swift]

[thorny mesa]

yea i just joined

[left swift]

[thorny mesa]

@ashen nacelle how u make a lobby, like where u put it?

so u have two worlds?

[left swift]

spartan, global bans, factions, mcmmo, and multiverse huh

what do you think of raspberry pi hosting

[thorny mesa]

i have one of those

how u run a server on that little thing

[left swift]

not well

[thorny mesa]

what is that?

[left swift]

spartan moment

hes accusing you of hacking

[thorny mesa]

lmao

i just ran around a lil bit

well now I know not to use spartan

[void void]

sounds about right for spartan

[proud lance]

cat, whats that ntfs drive app you recommended a while back for mac?

[rare python]

I have so many JVMs installed its ridiculous.

graalvm8, openjdk8, graalvm11, openjdk11, openjdk16, graalvm17, and openjdk18

[golden gust]

paragon, ntfs-3g, or apples experimental NTFS driver

[coarse star]

hey

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/slicedlime/status/1519350809938509824?t=R1tT6Hg0EMySKBuDhk38Aw&s=19

slicedlime 💙💛 (@slicedlime)

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[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w17a

[void void]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w17a

oh ffs

[hexed dragon]

lol

I just checked Twitter right now.

[void void]

signed chat? 🤨

[vernal moth]

I wonder what people think about it

wait, lemme read what they said publicly

ah ok

yeah, now I am even more interested to know what people think 😛

[quiet mesa]

i need read beter because dont fully understand how works xd

looks a no-premium issues v2 or premium v2

[vernal moth]

basically, every message is being signed, in order to be able to validate its authenticity

[brave mountain]

Is the lastest?

[vernal moth]

I think if you hear the term player safety, you can guess why they want to validate the authenticity of individual chat messages

[quiet mesa]

signed like the GPG in commits?

[vernal moth]

kinda, ye

[golden gust]

I mean, in the sense that they're signed to validate where they came from? yes

[vernal moth]

I think its a good analogy, every message you will send will be signed with your private key

and everybody can validate the authenticity with your public key, that is stored for you by mojang

[brave mountain]

Can this make trouble for chat plugins?

[golden gust]

well, the tricky part is who is in charge of the keys

[brave mountain]

Example channel features

[golden gust]

That's what we're working with mojang to avoid

[mental meadow]

I am. Give me your key.

[vernal moth]

this, right now, completely breaks chat plugins 😄

wait

somebody needs to tell kangaroooooo!

lmfao

[brave mountain]

I'll do

[vernal moth]

watch him calling mojang kids

[golden gust]

1. plz no badger

2. oh no

[void void]

going to guess this will eventually be for account bans like those that exist in bedrock?

[quiet mesa]

global bans?

[brave mountain]

Omg, is going to take time the transition to 1.19

[vernal moth]

not for most people

[quiet mesa]

yeah i feel this xd

[vernal moth]

just chat plugins, and we are working with mojang to make sure they don't forget about that, no need to worry

[golden gust]

The thing will gracefully fall back to unauthenticated chats

[brave mountain]

I mean for server sysadmins

[vernal moth]

admins just update their server and plugins 🙂

[golden gust]

the long term goal is that we work with mojang to make sure that stuff remains authenticated, however

[brave mountain]

And if they aren't updated

[golden gust]

This is gonna require that people play along with stuff properly, so, there is gonna be some potential headaches for server owners and plugin devs, especially given spigots refusal to move forward around here

if they aren't updated it'll just fallback into unathenticated chat

signed

the signature authenticates that the person who it says sent it, sent it

[ripe sphinx]

oh god what mess will md do with this

[golden gust]

authenticate
/ɔːˈθɛntɪkeɪt/
Learn to pronounce
verb
prove or show (something) to be true, genuine, or valid.
"they were invited to authenticate artefacts from the Italian Renaissance"

[brave mountain]

Could you sniff packets of Minecraft chat?

[vernal moth]

kek I don't have minecraft installed

[ripe sphinx]

I'm getting ptsd with &x&F&U&C&K&M&E

[quiet mesa]

force enforce-secure-profile to false (?

[left swift]

use key to sign up for csgo tournament

[vernal moth]

ur mean

[worthy geode]

I don't like this tbh.

[vernal moth]

why?

[brave mountain]

Like spy chat with Wireshark or something like that

[twin lagoon]

seems like clientboundchatpacket has been split into a systemchatpacket & playerchatpacket

[void void]

online mode has encrypted traffic

[mental meadow]

I would like for you to know that you are shit

[twin lagoon]

based

[left swift]

[worthy geode]

Mojang signing keys seems like a first step for Mojang enforcing some chat limits/filtering/whatever

[brave mountain]

So why the chat encryption?

[golden gust]

not encryption

authentication

[twin lagoon]

which is also good

[golden gust]

The idea is that messages are signed by the sender so that if you wanna report somebody using mojangs platform for creeping that the messages can be validated, etc

[vernal moth]

chat limits for bad people = good?

[worthy geode]

I don't think so. Should be up to servers to deal with that

[brave mountain]

More security than before

[twin lagoon]

it's not about security

[brave mountain]

Ok

[vernal moth]

its about player safety

[mental meadow]

god yes finally

[golden gust]

There is much legislation going around which is requiring people hosting such services to deal with this stuff

[mental meadow]

ged rid of people

[golden gust]

i.e. you as a server owner are going to be expected to comply with certain laws and regulations and all that jazz, as you've generally been expected to do so for years

[brave mountain]

So Mojang can ban someone from Minecraft? 🤨

[twin lagoon]

they always can

[golden gust]

and this is generally expected to make it much easier to comply with this stuff and act upon stuff

allowing you to report issues to mojang where stuff arises so that they can take action if needs be

[worthy geode]

Yeah. Server owners are already legally responsible for that kinda stuff and I don't see why Mojang should mess with it as well

[brave mountain]

With proper profs

[golden gust]

Because mojang controls the wider platform and needs to be able to act on stuff server owners are required to deal with

[mental meadow]

please tell that to every server owner out there

[brave mountain]

Indeed

[quiet mesa]

or maybe this can keep ignoring like the feature for filter chat.. if im not wrong this feature are in code but not enabled? (i remember a JIRA in Spigot for this..)

[vernal moth]

because mojang is responsible and concerned for their players safety

[golden gust]

the feature is there in vanilla but needs to be enabled manually

[vernal moth]

and you can always not participate in this

its a toggle in the server properties

[golden gust]

Once again, this is stemming from wider legal requirements and expectations

[worthy geode]

Yeah as long as it's a toggle it's fine. I'm just afraid that it won't stay that way

[brave mountain]

So is disabled

[golden gust]

You as a server owner are expected to report and deal with stuff like creeping, etc; This allows for mojang to validate messages and actually respond to stuff

Well, mojang is tryna act in good faith here

[brave mountain]

With that disabled, may be easier for plugin developers.

[golden gust]

They are literally required to start taking an action on this stuff

[twin lagoon]

to get rid of their account

[golden gust]

Because you ban them, they go creep on vulnerable people on another server

[quiet mesa]

i feel its not working in vanilla https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-233228
i remember try to test this because spigot disable the feature for the event chat...

[golden gust]

I mean, shit like that you should be reporting to a legal entity

[brave mountain]

I imagine you couldn't enable it on offline

[twin lagoon]

you'd be wasting your time

[vernal moth]

just let mojang handle that

[golden gust]

Basically, this allows for mojang to address wider issues within the community

[brave mountain]

So what else changes you see, that can me impact in development?

[golden gust]

These agencies generally do fuck all, and thus, I know creeps who've been in the community for years with 0 action taken against them

[brave mountain]

I saw connected yesterday 😅

[worthy geode]

Which can be fine if it's an 18+ server. And I don't trust Mojang to differentiate that kind of stuff.
Same with insults. A bit of insulting on PvP server might be fine, while on servers specifically aimed at younger kids it's not

[mental meadow]

We have probably a few hundred banned people with hitler skins

[brave mountain]

That things should be prohibited

[blissful sonnet]

Definitely agree

[golden gust]

I mean, it's nuanced, 100%

[vernal moth]

this is a game marketed at kids

[golden gust]

We are having wider discussions with mojang to bring stuff like this up

and mojang is trying to act in good faith here, hence why they're bringing this feature to you now

[mental meadow]

also this is a result of server owners ignoring laws for years. Mojang has to do something to force servers to be compliant

[golden gust]

However, as it stands, the community has many wider issues which haven't been acted upon, within MC and gaming as a whole, and entities like the EU and us gov are being pressured to put stuff in motion to clamp down on this mess

[vernal moth]

dont forget, its early in the development cycle, they are actively looking for our (as in, ours as the inner circles and yours as the wider community) feedback

[brave mountain]

But, Long live debauchery anyway.

[rare python]

If there is no reasonable way for a server to change chat messages as needed then I am sticking with 1.18.2 until the end of time lol

[vernal moth]

there will be

[mental meadow]

there will be

[golden gust]

Many companies right now are trying to work on tooling and such to avoid a clampdown by the EU/US, etc, which is heavy handed

[vernal moth]

they arent stupid

[worthy geode]

I mean, they can always block servers, not just for commercial guidelines stuff

[golden gust]

So, yes, we get it, the notetion of this stuff is scary, but, the alternative is that the EU/US gov comes in and sets requirements on your chat filtering which you NEED to comply with

[ripe sphinx]

Do clients receive the signing info as well, or just servers?

like bob sends a signed message, can alice check the signature? or just the server?

[golden gust]

You'd need to look at the packet, I'm tryna ensure that the stuff I say is kept within NDA

[ripe sphinx]

fair enough

[rare python]

Is this just mojang trying to have tighter control over Java edition?

[golden gust]

No

[coarse lily]

Probably not.

[rare python]

What is it they are trying to do then?

[vernal moth]

this is mojang trying to enable player safety

[ripe sphinx]

be able to moderate their platform

[golden gust]

This is entities like the EU/US requiring much better moderation stuff, either by asking nicely or failing that, putting down law

[vernal moth]

I almost said something bad

lol

[golden gust]

many firms are tryna stengthen their tooling before the EU/US goes crazy and starts mandating too much over this stuff

[mental meadow]

This is mojang "hey y'all you've had enough times to follow laws, and since you apparently can't we're forced to do things now"

[golden gust]

Not exactly

[mental meadow]

freedom of speech

in Minecraft

[rare python]

So is this just mojang trying to comply with existing / upcoming laws?

[ripe sphinx]

oh boy

[mental meadow]

kek

[golden gust]

FoS is between you and the government

[worthy geode]

As I currently understand it you can just send every message as plugin/server message and completely bypass the system anyways

[golden gust]

This is mojang tryna ensure that they have the tooling to act on stuff within a reasonable manner

the entire goal here is that companies are tryna get their asses into gear because either they fix shit, or gov mandates shit

[ripe sphinx]

freedom of speech does not apply to MC, just like how it doesn't apply to social media operated by private companies

[golden gust]

many of the larger companies like twitter are asking for mandates and shit over this stuff

many companies are tryna prove that they can do it without big daddy government coming in

cos, they need this stuff either way

[rare python]

Right so this is them trying to comply with potential laws so they don't get in trouble?

[mental meadow]

the laws already exist though

[golden gust]

This is companies trying to comply with stuff they've generally been asked for to avoid heavy handed laws being introduced in the first place

[mental meadow]

look at GDPR

[golden gust]

GDPR is not relevant here

[mental meadow]

yesn't

It limits digital consent for underage people

[golden gust]

Which is not relevant to the moderation aspects

[coarse lily]

I’m not sure it really matters what their motivation is. They’re adding chat signing. Why isn’t really relevant. It’s happening.

[worthy geode]

But isn't Mojang just providing a platform here? They definitely don't have full responsibility for its content then

[golden gust]

Once again

What they're tryna avoid is that the US government and the EU MAKES it their issue

You might not have noticed it but there has been a huge set of trails and discusions between the providers of platforms and general discussions towards either companies bucking up their stuff or the government is gonna get involved with writing regulations and stuff which requires companies to buck up

[ripe sphinx]

.s/trails/trials I assume?

[golden gust]

yes

[viral hornet]

People are so quick to overreact/assume the worse

[golden gust]

some platforms, i.e. facebook and twitter, are asking for regulation to be put in place

[rare python]

My main concern is that this seems like it would heavily limit what plugins are able to do to manipulate chat messages.

[golden gust]

regulation which if put in place could potentially make it unviable for you as a provider of a service to operate

[rare python]

No, no it won't.

[mental meadow]

oh for f sake

[viral hornet]

We'd love to hear your thoughts, but keep in mind that many features such as server-driven styling of chat messages are still missing.

[golden gust]

server-driven styling is something we've generally been discussing

[ripe sphinx]

what about server-side censoring?

[golden gust]

I ofc can't say too much there but we appear to have a workable solution

[ripe sphinx]

aside from just dropping the message

[viral hornet]

wot

[rare python]

Oh, so currently we can't manipulate chat messages at all... but there working on it... hmm, that does not get my hopes up at all.

[worthy geode]

There's also other server side stuff, parsing colors or other placeholders, emojis etc

[ripe sphinx]

can manipulate, just wouldn't be signed is my understanding

[mental meadow]

Chat styling is now handled via server resource packs with the translation key chat.type.text

[worthy geode]

Currently it looks like you can just send stuff as a system message and that will work fine, so I'm gonna do that

[rare python]

Based on what I have seen in the past, there is a good chance it either won't happen, or it won't happen for a few more versions.

[mental meadow]

please stop

[untold meadow]

you can just send system chat messages

[viral hornet]

surely trolling anyway

[ripe sphinx]

What about message manipulation i.e. language censoring, emojis, etc though

[golden gust]

that chat styling thing is not relevant for us

[untold meadow]

nobody is stopping you from doing that and just ignoring the signed ones

[golden gust]

Once again

We're discussing this

[viral hornet]

trolling on the matter*

[mental meadow]

Your opinion that a feature in a snapshot is not yet fully implemented inhibits free speech?

[ripe sphinx]

I guess just fall back on unsigned if you want to do anything more than change the chat format

[untold meadow]

pretty sure the 2nd amendment specifically says i have freedom to have emojis replaced in my minecraft chat messages

adam is right

[rare python]

I have a feeling making everything unsigned would be a good way to annoy Mojang.

[viral hornet]

kezz please don't limit my speech ty

[untold meadow]

not having discord nitro is literally supressing my freedom of speech to use emojis

[vestal jasper]

Free speech applies to legal action for what you say. It does not protect all speech in all circumstances.

[rare python]

Free speech does not apply here.

[viral hornet]

why don't you have nitro

imagine not having nitro

[wide chasm]

Why would you have nitro?

[viral hornet]

For emojis

and higher upload limit

[untold meadow]

[ripe sphinx]

[viral hornet]

that's pretty much the only reasons for me personally lol

[mental meadow]

nitro reason

[wide chasm]

I'd probably only use it for longer messages, but I'm not sure if allowing my messages to be even longer is a good thing

[waxen panther]

wow!

[golden gust]

Camm

[quiet mesa]

and youtube premium xd

[rare python]

Also america is ridiculously obsessed with free speech.

[golden gust]

I can't promise not to silence you if we ever meet

[viral hornet]

is that THE pro destiny gamer (best at gambit) @waxen panther??????

[waxen panther]

YES SIRRRR

trials carries $5 each

[viral hornet]

please don't silence my free speech

[rare python]

Okay you are getting blocked.

[viral hornet]

Okay

(whos getting blocked?)

[mental meadow]

you I assume?

[viral hornet]

why would you assume me

what did I do

[lavish compass]

I love SHA1withRSA

[golden gust]

I fucking hate the UK

[lavish compass]

[mental meadow]

Top Tory

[golden gust]

Like, when people where first talking about it, I thought that they meant like, in their office or on the shitter, which, like, gross, but, according to google just shy of 40% of work people "use the bathroom"

But, like

[mental meadow]

sounds like a weird wrestler

[golden gust]

jesus fuck

[vernal moth]

man I didn't touch fabric in a while

[worn ember]

Sounds like a good thing?

[vernal moth]

well, its the easiest way to play around with stuff

[mental meadow]

hardfork and snapshot support when

[vestal jasper]

🌲

[vernal moth]

anybody know how to start fabric dev in online mode? lol

[warm anchor]

Comes after hangar

[worn ember]

Put it on your client and run it with remote debugging i suppose

That's the only way I can think of

Probably an easier way tho

[vernal moth]

kekw

[worn ember]

Why you need online mode?

[vestal jasper]

Does it have you use a different random account each time like forge?

[mental meadow]

I assume that in offline mode there is no chat signing

[vestal jasper]

Also that

[left swift]

aurora wanna see how many CSGO cases i've opened since 2015

991 💀

[vernal moth]

I just saw I don't

I thought they would render a checkmark, since I saw a checkmark in code

but thats just realms stuff

[void void]

the follow-up to brain fuck

[worn ember]

forge just uses the "dev" user now im pretty sure

also its offline mode so nothing gets validated, so you can put whatever however many times you want really

[vestal jasper]

My concern was regarding persistent data. But it looks like that's been addressed in both platforms.

[worn ember]

oh, didnt think of that

[mental meadow]

Hi aurorasmiles,

We're writing to let you know that the names of the organizations your GitHub account is a member of, if any, were likely viewed as part of an attack campaign against GitHub customers. Unless you have received a separate notification from GitHub indicating otherwise, we do NOT have evidence to suggest that the attacker used your account to view other private information, such as repository names or content.
Travis again, what is that like the 24th time?

[vernal moth]

you love to see it

hiding terms under whitespace https://streamable.com/r6cjl0

[stiff wadi]

Make sure to check for invisible characters lol

[quick obsidian]

on a scale from 1-10, how bad is this

[quick obsidian]

Hi WillFP,

We're writing to let you know that the names of the organizations your GitHub account is a member of, if any, were likely viewed as part of an attack campaign against GitHub customers. Unless you have received a separate notification from GitHub indicating otherwise, we do NOT have evidence to suggest that the attacker used your account to view other private information, such as repository names or content.
got it too

was heroku for me, i dont use travis

[vernal moth]

in more exiting fuck you news, signed up for notification on a property project, got the notifcation I wanted some time later, replied, now, another week later, I get an auto email saying "hey, just checking in, we did send you what you wanted, but you didn't open the email!" when I literally replied it. fuck your tracking images 😄

[quick obsidian]

wow thats shitty

[vernal moth]

when we literally already made a personal appointment 😄

[mental meadow]

compromise of these secrets held by Heroku and Travis CI.

[sturdy grove]

is that cool

[wet storm]

Have I missed politics discussion in general? /s

[worn ember]

Hi DarkEyeDragon,

We're writing to let you know that the names of the organizations your GitHub account is a member of, if any, were likely viewed as part of an attack campaign against GitHub customers. Unless you have received a separate notification from GitHub indicating otherwise, we do NOT have evidence to suggest that the attacker used your account to view other private information, such as repository names or content.

We've shared details of this campaign on our blog:

https://github.blog/2022-04-15-security-alert-stolen-oauth-user-tokens/

classic Travis CI

[brave mountain]

I changed mine recently

[tropic flame]

virgin Travis CI vs chad GitHub Actions

runs

[magic river]

sigh

Turns out the problem I thought was due to fedora silverblue actually wasn't

Then I thought it was selinux but that wasn't it either

My bind mounts in docker are getting mounted as root instead of as the container user so I can't write to them

I wonder if this is a configuration thing or a btrfs thing

[wet storm]

Okay, I stuck at some point where I lost my programming goals, I mean, I don't wanna over engineer block game servers infinitely, but I don't actually like web or game development, I know some themes I can learn further, but should I? I feel kinda burnout like I was in july - september 2021, I like performance engineering, but I understand that I have a few experience to actually do it, at least I should think about what I'll do further during this period, any suggestions?

[muted storm]

but, I don't have either of those apps authenticated to my GitHub via OAuth and I still got the email. wot

Or was it just sent to everybody that was part of an organization that had a member with one authenticated?

[wet storm]

Is this a scam or something?...

[muted storm]

Yes

If it were Discord official, they'd have you fill out a form on their website, not some weird third party one lol

[stuck lynx]

Definitely

[muted storm]

and it would have "System" badge next to the account

[unkempt drift]

from luckperms discord I think

[stuck lynx]

"mutual servers"?

[muted storm]

"We are waiting for you!" sounds very... "porny"... by the way. lol

[unkempt drift]

probably already kicked

there are like dozens of Mod Mail accounts in the luckperms discord rn

[wide chasm]

If you're interested in performance engineering, learning more about that sounds like a good way to get more experience. And it might be a nice change of pace if you feel burned out on plugin dev.

[brave mountain]

"Chat styling is now handled via server resource packs with the translation key chat.type.text"

This looks interesting 🤔.

[golden gust]

that's irrelevant to us

[wet storm]

I am also a bit confused about the fact that I should tell people that I can't develop new features, only make performance monitoring / testing / tuning of already existing, I had a really bad experience with a lead developer on some server network which said: "oh, you know a bit of performance? Multithreading? We are making a new project - industrial craft like electricity systems with minecraft's copper lightning roads as wires with plugins, we worry about the performance, can you help us?" And yeah, but they didn't say that the project was incomplete, and I spent a fucking month making this plugin, refactoring previous dev's code and making a functionaliy, cuz I didn't touch industrial craft for years and I didn't even understand how electricity sharing between different electric sources and consumers should work...

[brave mountain]

Yeha resource packs != Plugins

[wet storm]

but relevant for adventure

[worn ember]

i think it refers to either one of those orgs? not sure

[golden gust]

personal or org afaik

[wet storm]

Q:
Is adventure just about components?
A:
No, it is bigger.
Q:
Is it a UI library?
A:
No, it is a bigger thing.
Q:
Is it a lifestyle?
A:
Yes.

[tired heath]

Anyone knows a usable remote MC bot repo, mass join for stress test and commands should be supported, walking would be cool but no must have?

[warm anchor]

Step 1. Craft a post with everything 4chan hates
Step 2. Post it on 4chan
Step 3. Wait a bit…
Step 4. Chance your IP and reply to your own post claiming you found OP’s Minecraft server and post the IP.
Step 5 get the best organic stress test.

[tired heath]

Well not the dummest idea 😄 but at least I can stop the bot. Not sure about 4chan 😄

Well maybe I try smth like Mineflayer but will need coding again, more todo

[twin lagoon]

depending on how many players you need

would not use mineflayer

[tired heath]

Does it suck, I would like to run multiple steps like 10, 25, 50, 100 ...

[twin lagoon]

mineflayer does not scale above 100 players

[void void]

could use https://github.com/cubxity/stresscraft

[twin lagoon]

and that ^

doesn't do much more than just joining though but it's able to sustain thousands of players at ease

[warm anchor]

@lavish compass weeb

[tired heath]

Might consider that, would have to add at least some commands so they would do some rtps or smth, I check it out

But I'm kinda programming my MC projects ADHD driven at the moment, would be a good thing to complete some first 😄

I guess

[foggy veldt]

I’m really sad adventure didn’t have a better name

They should’ve named it kyori or something

[golden gust]

yes

kyori's self titled library

[coarse lily]

Kyori, the white album.

[foggy veldt]

If Taylor swift did it so can kyori

[tropic flame]

the first library was called Text, I'd say Adventure is an improvement

[ripe sphinx]

technically it's still the same lib, just with a whole bunch of additions and yeah adventure's a decent name

[brave mountain]

What are all these library's?

[magic river]

So people are trying to use NFTs to get around regulations on ICOs

The SEC said ICOs are basically stock offerings and have to follow all the relevant regulations then ICOs died

[warm anchor]

SEC is going after NFT rugpull too so dont worry

[magic river]

Yeah, but that's outright fraud

Unregulated stock trading is a different thing

[warm anchor]

NFT in its current usage is pretty much fraud contrasted anyway

[magic river]

And not all NFTs are meant to be stocks so they can't just do a blanket ruling

[kind ether]

Hey I have a question about dedicated server hosting, other than Hetzner are there any other close competitors?

[coarse lily]

OVH

[kind ether]

Which server would you suggest from OVH as I see their first game server starts at $95

[magic river]

Yeah that sounds about right

Their non-game dedicated servers might have some cheaper options but they tend to use server CPUs which aren't as good for MC

MC needs a small handful of really fast cores, servers usually go for a ton of moderate speed cores

[brave mountain]

minecraft server jar has always weight like 100 MB?

[magic river]

No, I think it used to be like 10MB

[unkempt drift]

why is it? there is no contract most of the time. LegalEagle just put out a good video on nfts and the legal problems there. most of the time, you don't legally own anything when you buy an NFT, so there's nothing anyone can take away from you

[magic river]

Even if the contract isn't good enough for you to actually end up owning anything advertising it as owning something or doing something interesting with it then shutting down your server, taking the money, and ghosting everyone still sounds like fraud to me

I don't think "the contract didn't say I couldn't take the money and run" is a valid defense against a fraud charge

Too many negatives 😄

[kind ether]

I found something interesting so on us.ovhcloud.com Rise Game 1 servers dont exist which is 85 with Ryzen 5 3600. But if you go to ovhcloud.com/en those unavailable options pop up

[magic river]

beta 1.6 server was apparently 479KB

It also didn't use any libraries and was written in a style that at times looked it it'd already been run through a code minifier/obfuscator 😄

I think like half the size of server jars these days is a collections library (hashmaps and such)

[true canyon]

PR to rename fastutil to bigutil

[magic river]

lol, some dude once bought in to a pyramid scheme then tried to pitch it as his own business to the Canadian version of Shark Tank and get them to buy in under him (and also probably get his money back)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8I4mNnht1E

[brave mountain]

I've been in two 4life, join attempts

[kind ether]

So let's say I buy the Ryzen 9 5950X plan from Hetzner, it comes with 128GB RAM. As far as I'm aware having so much RAM is bad for Minecraft servers, what do I do with the RAM?

[warm anchor]

usually for another server (?)

[coarse lily]

Or for running webserver stuff on it, or Discord bots, or any number of things.

[untold copper]

AAAAAAAAAA

im 16 now

;-;

[lavish compass]

weeb^2

[lavish compass]

It barely works above 10 players on one node isolate (with physics enabled) on a ryzen 9 5950x

[magic river]

TIL the guy that made The NFT Bay and put out a torrent of "all the NFTs" literally just made a torrent of the NFTs

It's a bunch of blockchain data (the URLs to the images) and then fallocate to make a giant empty file so the torrent could be 17TB

There are no images in the torrent because NFTs aren't images

[worn ember]

Lame

[magic river]

ooh, I wonder when this is going to start happening: figure out who owns a wallet then send them a token/NFT/whatever with their name, address, etc

Even if you burn the token the history that you owned it will always be there

It costs someone money to do it but someone will spend $100 to ruin your life for a laugh

[wet storm]

Imagine selling nft blockchain code with nft

[vernal moth]

My watch be like, your sleep score was 58

So at least I have a reason to feel shit now?

[warm anchor]

Depend on what’s the top score

[magic river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpPHSkkhBZA

As soon as I read your message this song started going in my head

Or really just like the first line of it because no one knows the actual song

[vernal moth]

100, lol

[vernal moth]

I do, remember toyko drift? I really liked it for some reason as a kid

[magic river]

That's why I know the song 😛

[vernal moth]

Ah wasn't sure

[tired heath]

Finally async farmlimiter done, time to go to bed ...

[vernal moth]

idk why you wouldnt, just not sure if they got templates for it, but the features should work I guess

the plugin itself is written in kotlin fwiw

[quick obsidian]

you are correct

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=register+command+spigot

[prime coral]

TestCommand()

[wet storm]

Scala epicer /s

Clojure epicest

[rare python]

If I made a PR to allow people to change the blast resistance of blocks in paper.yml, what are the chances that it might actually get accepted...

[ashen cliff]

But why?

[rare python]

Why not?

[wet storm]

Sounds like something that purpur can accept

[rare python]

Currently it has to be done with reflection which is a pain to deal with

[mental meadow]

That feels like more of a plugin thingy, I doubt that would get accepted

[vernal moth]

An API could be PRd tho

[rare python]

Oooh

Okay I'll make an API for it then :)

That is probably a better solution for it anyway

[vernal moth]

Yep

[wet storm]

What do you think, how is useful bukkit's Registry API? (org.bukkit.Registry class iirc)

[plucky eagle]

where can i ask about adventure components?

[wet storm]

#paper-dev

[plucky eagle]

ty

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/SZqEzhXx-2022-04-28_13-05-43.png

Do you think flags would help?

[mental meadow]

where do you get that view from?

[ashen cliff]

Should be /xu_tps

[mental meadow]

yeah

[ashen cliff]

I think that breaking a barrel of 109k gunpowder was a mistake.

What are you using for chunkloading?

[mental meadow]

me

we've only just reached hv

we don't even have anything that needs loading out of base yet

[ashen cliff]

Understandable.

We have a dark oak wood farm, since spruce is broken.
Not that dark oak isn't broken, since it will just remove rails, so we needed modded rails.

[mental meadow]

I'm just using sacred oak and my lumber axe for wood now, but to be fair we only use wood for our 36 coke ovens

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, we have like 20 coke ovens, 2 advanced ones and a pyro one.
So, we have 3 high pressure steam boilers going and still have like 400 stacks of overflow per day.
Now, mostly just used for remote power and backup power, incase the reactor decides to blow up...

Good thing we have like 4 protection methods for that.

[vernal moth]

remember the guy that is emailing me power points?

the contractor that got hired by a contractor?

he just presented me V57 of the power point, by sharing is screen

and somehow, I think something is off

https://i.imgur.com/6l797mR.png

lets count how many things are wrong with this screenshot 😂

[wet storm]

Google drive? Sussy baka

[vernal moth]

look at the desktop

[wet storm]

Mistress anna latex passion 1307?

[vernal moth]

yep, guy has a PDF (?) of a sex doll on his work computer

at least I assume its a sex doll, lol

[twin lagoon]

nah it's a porn video

[vernal moth]

did you google it? 😄

[twin lagoon]

he's just vibing let him be

i might've

[vernal moth]

oh I dont judge

it just explains how he works so slow, lol

[wet storm]

This deluxe is also sus

[rare python]

• Using Windows
• Has Chrome and Firefox installed
• Using Microsoft Office
• Using a prehistoric version of Office

[limber knot]

Avira Antivirus

Having Windows News/Weather enabled

Using Icons instead of wide in the Taskbar

Having Cortana enabled

Having the Search Button enabled (the windows button and typing does the exact same thing)

Having Adobe Products installed

[vernal moth]

the whole taskbar, with icons expanded and shit, its sooo bad

[limber knot]

Not using KeepassX (although using Keepass as well as 7zip is pretty much the only good thing about that screenshot)

Using Calibri

oh and VLC is also good

[ashen cliff]

Ded screnshot confimed. https://posili.me/i/2gQ9YwJa-2022-04-28_14-07-38.png

[vernal moth]

the bad wifi is also nice

[wet storm]

1337 time

[vernal moth]

nice somebody noticed, I waited a minute 😄

[limber knot]

I hope that blured out stuff is not confidential lol

because that would be another thing wrong with it 👀

the porn seems fake :(

[vernal moth]

well, everything at work is confidential, but its really not interesting

anybody ever had the server window in intellij just being gone?

[limber knot]

like closed or are you not able to open it again?

[vernal moth]

like, I need to debug a service by another team, and its some jboss shit, I started it, but now I have no way to see the logs, lol

I remember that not being in the run or debug windows, and I can see that its running, but under view -> tool windows I don't see anything related, nor do I have anything in the bars on the side

[limber knot]

odd

[vernal moth]

did they change how they handle jee stuff recently?

like, it even picked up my application server in the settings and stuff

laptop

[novel horizon]

classic laptop experience

[vernal moth]

dust.

[golden gust]

dust, underspec'd cooling because intel are bastards

how long ago?

[novel horizon]

cant compare these like that

[golden gust]

Like, Intel went through a loooong ass period where they basically underrated the TDP of their chips

and so many companies designed their laptops with cooling designed for the specs that intel where promising

and, intel basically never delivered and just basically spent a bunch of effort on intel speedstep or whatever they call it

[novel horizon]

yeah, so

[vernal moth]

Logitech Gaming suite, Nvidia Geforce, Avast

[novel horizon]

very intensive apps

but idk how that matters tho for cpu temp

you have a laptop too

and you have 27°C?

[vernal moth]

yey updated IJ and my services window is back

[novel horizon]

🙌

[wet storm]

Damn, the weather is awesome, the air feels so fresh and it is sunny, temperature is about 7°C, but I love it

[untold copper]

its my birthday

everyone cancelled lol

no one came

sad

[limber knot]

til there is a launcher for java edition on android: https://github.com/PojavLauncherTeam/PojavLauncher

[brave mountain]

😲

It does work?

[vernal moth]

its like really old

[still sorrel]

my 50 euros handmade cables imported from Cyprus broke in 3 minutes of usage

never pull a cable by the cable

[slate owl]

Hello

How do i change the possibility for villagers to get to zombievillager too 100?

It is already on hard

It says -1 in the script

Is that right?

Nice

That's why paper is so good :)

You can use any plugins right??

Wdym?

Yea

Nice

[limber knot]

@brave mountain yeah but anything above 1.16.5 is not really supported as java 17 doesn't really exist for android yet

[slate owl]

Eyy

I got one more question

I had some troubles finding it on Minecraft wiki

What is the requirements for a zombie to zombife a villager in hard

[brave mountain]

https://github.com/PojavLauncherTeam/android-openjdk-build-multiarch/releases/tag/jre17-ec28559

[limber knot]

[brave mountain]

I'm installing to try it out

[limber knot]

tbh having the ability to run arbitrary java applications on android is a lot cooler to me than running minecraft (as it will run like shit)

[brave mountain]

termux

[tropic flame]

yeah they compile their own JRE for Android, they don't rely on... whatever Android uses by default

[tropic flame]

I've run 1.16.5 with optifine it runs okay, but expect your phone to get pretty hot

[brave mountain]

I'm on a rooted pixel2 with LineageOS