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magic river
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Qt is up to 6 πŸ˜›

uneven fox
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I haven't come across a Qt6 app yet. Everything on my system is Qt5 so far.

brave mountain
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we can build a distro called paper

languid karma
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Only runs mc I can dig it

magic river
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GTK is/was the go to for making a GUI for things on Linux so you have a lot more things that are abandoned but still useful or update at a different rate and something

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Qt stuff on Linux is almost entirely things that are in the KDE project so the project as a whole works to keep them all all the same versions

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Qt is way more useful for making cross platform stuff but no one does that anymore, they just make Electron apps

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For a couple years there it looked like Qt was going to push GTK out for proprietary apps or apps not affiliated with one of the two DEs but Electron seems to have pretty well smashed that

still sorrel
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Smh I spent 1000 euro on audio gear

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HifiMan Edition XS
ifi zen can
ifi zen dac signature v2

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All balanced

warm anchor
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look at this rich money bag

mossy vessel
novel horizon
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πŸ‘€

warm anchor
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I am a bit old school I perfer audio technica or sennheiser... hifiman seems to be something new but I dont rally follow that shit

void void
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Click the filter in modmenu

wet storm
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"acceptable interesting" in jcstress: Oh, I didn't know race condition may happen here!
"acceptable interesting" in real life: burns a server

novel horizon
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Well, I didn't meant to ping, but too late now

warm anchor
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It's ok you can ping @void void he doesnt bite (only upon your request)

novel horizon
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Yeah, still tho, was not needed to ping

twin lagoon
wet storm
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imagine intentionally ping catπŸ₯΄

warm anchor
novel horizon
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why would you not ping cat

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when you have reason

wet storm
novel horizon
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yeah?

true canyon
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It's very, very rare that someone has a good reason. :3

novel horizon
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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yeah but still

true canyon
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Not sure what your screenshot's trying to say

novel horizon
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over 8k pings

warm anchor
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Yes people either cant read / dont care / entitled for support

novel horizon
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Probably the last one

wet storm
novel horizon
wet storm
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hello, it is a test mention with no ping

novel horizon
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but that's not a ping

wet storm
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ah, nope

novel horizon
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that filter is specifically ping, mentioning

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hey i sometimes ping people to let them know i love them and appreciate their work ❀️

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not in middle of the night preferably

true canyon
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@twin lagoon πŸ₯Ί

wet storm
warm anchor
novel horizon
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time to go again, good night you all, wish u a nice weekend ❀️

left swift
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man

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papermc weekends amirite

midnight mulch
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yall might not believe this

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but i think papermc is ran by paper

wet storm
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πŸ₯±

midnight mulch
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i be sleep too

pearl shore
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oh my i thought this was an elaborate april fools prank

tired fog
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md5 making big gains

warm anchor
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Just like their discord

true canyon
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WETH? Is that short for Wet ETH? The moist variant of a terrible "currency"?

lilac moon
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If I understand correctly it apparnelty let's you make bids and stuff without paying or something

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Actually technically its wrapped ether because the currency is called ether, not ethereum

merry talon
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oh so its like kohl's cash

magic river
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TIL Elden Ring has a dude who got married, had three kids, then left his wife to marry another woman but then it turns out he apparently went back in time, became a woman, became God, and that woman was the one he left his original wife for?

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So he was literally fucking himself?

warm anchor
magic river
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Either that or it has a woman who became God, could make herself into a man, for some reason got married to a woman and had three kids while also having a husband, a different set of kids, and being at war with the woman

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And then somehow managed to marry herself without anyone noticing they were never in the same room at the same time πŸ˜„

timber spindle
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found this in the purpurmc discord

warm anchor
timber spindle
next frost
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no

warm anchor
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Not really

warm anchor
next frost
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hello peepoHeart

warm anchor
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weekend Hype

full rune
frank otter
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oh wait it's Easter holidays for me!

vernal moth
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The suckers actually did it

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Lmao

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I got more than what I paid for back when I brought it years ago

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For a watch that is long broken since I fried the screen crystals

novel horizon
ashen cliff
stuck lynx
vernal moth
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The best thing is, I just lent that money to a friend who is getting a dog with it, so I even could make somebody happy with it

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And people say money can't buy happiness, the smile on her face sure looked like happiness to me

teal raptor
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any good plugins for a superflat world?

novel horizon
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yeah mini

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"money cant buy health huhuhu" sure but poverty doesn't help my health at all

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its just what it is ^^

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and it revolves about money, so ΓΆ

worn crest
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Noah, nobody is wearing a mask in your country, that's weird

teal cedar
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I kind of glossed over the april fools thing

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didn't realise there was actually an associated NFT

teal raptor
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and if you get infected

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isolation is optional

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ISOLATION is O P T I O N A L

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our politicians are like

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"with the rules we currently enforce everything is going allright - that means we can just not enforce them and it will be even allrighter"

worn ember
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I mean there's only so long you can "lock people up" until they say fuck it and ignore the rules anyway

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2years is a long ass time

teal raptor
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i mean yeah there were many walking around without a mask

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but

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i mean

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thats not how it works

worn ember
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It's not required here either. Only on public transport

teal raptor
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as far as i know it is required in shops here too

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but i mean

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it has always been that way

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they locked down schools

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then remembered that not only the school system is bad

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but also their technology stuff

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and what their teachers know

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so they just stopped

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just so they remember that that means more people get infected

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so they lock down schools again

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just so they remember that that also doesnt work

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german politics in a nutshell

worn crest
teal raptor
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i passed a school and heard a kid say "why are you wearing a mask" as if its illegal now

worn crest
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Highway was kinda low traffic

vernal moth
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Isolation is not optional, please get your facts straight

limber knotBOT
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doesn't it depend on state?

vernal moth
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No it was a dum proposal at federal level that has since been reverted

limber knotBOT
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good to know, lol

vernal moth
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At least that was my last info

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Not that anybody cares anymore

limber knotBOT
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I stopped actively researching that at some point and only listen to my morning news Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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I don't go outside anyways πŸ‘€

vernal moth
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Was out last night and it's been strange but liberating to not have masks everywhere

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Way nicer to interact with people

limber knotBOT
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it's freaking scary going crogery shopping

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like 2/3 don't wear masks in crowded shops anymore

vernal moth
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Well, people are sane around here

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Until they are drunk, but then it doesn't matter anyways

limber knotBOT
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the fun thing about isolatin if you are infected is that people simply just don't test themselves or use test centers that are allways negative

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so most infected just wont know and spread it anyways lol

vernal moth
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Why would I tell anybody if I am positive? That sounds dum

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Just be responsible, you don't go meet people when you are sick

limber knotBOT
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good joke

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unless testing and isollation is government enforced most people will just not give a fuck lol

vernal moth
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Yeah, that's why streets are filled with people having fever and vomiting and stuff

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Cause gov doesn't force them to stay in bed for that

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Mfw I lost over 3kg this week even tho I have been drinking and eating fast food way more than normal, wtf

limber knotBOT
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you still infect people even if you don't have symptoms lol

vernal moth
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So should I get tested with worthless rapid tests everyday and then lock myself in?

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Doesn't sound fun

limber knotBOT
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we have a plane full of people dying every day...

wet storm
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did someone say politics in general?

vernal moth
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Well, that's bad, but nothing I can change

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Most of the people dying aren't fully vaccinated anyways so that's a them issue in my book

novel horizon
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the problem is not the people not getting vaccinated at all, the problem is that there's people who cannot get vaccinated or so and can have problems because of the people ^^

vernal moth
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Well, life is unfair

wet storm
vernal moth
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The percentage of people who are told by their docs to not get vaccinated is low anyways, that doesn't explain the unvaccinated deaths

worn ember
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Fun fact: people gotten a lot sicker due to flu and other stuff cuz they have been isolated so long so their body has trouble with "new" infections

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i think this year was one of the biggest flu waves in a long time

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combined with covid cases

vernal moth
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Oh yeah I had the flu the other week

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Knocked me out good, but still kept my hangar streak going πŸ’ͺ

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Might be the first time I committed while having a fever πŸ˜‚

worn ember
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i had it last week also knocked me out for a few days

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honestly thought i had covid lol

vernal moth
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Well, thats what they want you to think!

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Covid wouldn't have been that bad since am vaccinated, lol

worn ember
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i had 2 doses i couldn't be asked to get the 3rd

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effort

potent panther
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log4j client fix for forge 1.7.10?

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forge doesn't have an official discord server

wet storm
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no, it has

potent panther
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oh thanks

wet storm
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but, people prob won't help you with 1.7.10 version, but forge legacy community exists for that purpose iirc

potent panther
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invite for legacy community?

tropic flame
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can we share invites of that kind here?

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uh, look for "Minecraft Mod Development"

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they have a channel for older versions

wet storm
potent panther
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just send it in dms if you want

worn ember
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well forge will tell you to fuck off if you use 1.7.10

wet storm
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and subscribe on pateron

worn ember
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even if you didnt they'd probably tell you fuck off anyway kek they're not so nice sometimes

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they will literally ban you for pinging someone lol

tropic flame
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I've seen one post in their forums where the mod accidentally helped someone using an older version before noticing and locking the post kekw

worn ember
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i just dont mention the version if its not important

tropic flame
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it's stupid, even if they don't make any more updates for those versions, they should let others help

worn ember
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but sadly for modding a lot of it is version dependent

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meh

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i understand why

tropic flame
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it'd be understandable for me if Forge was like Bukkit where you could just say "fuck off and update" because 99% of the stuff will still work anyway

wet storm
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2 months later they released a code of conduct where they forbid discussion about forge modifications

worn ember
steel elbow
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hi

hallow pawn
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Is this allow resourcepack custom font correct show when turning on force unicode?πŸ™

wet storm
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Does anyone know, where leaf's concurrent util was used?

raven basin
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"Money can't be happiness" Yes it can if I had a billion dollars I could do pretty much whatever I want and never have to work/worry ever again

vernal moth
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No it's very true, lol

golden gust
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money can't buy happiness

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ever seen a sad man on a boat?

vernal moth
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You can't buy happiness, it can buy you financial stability and not having to worry about stuff, but that doesn't make you happy long term

raven basin
mental meadow
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money can not buy happniess, but what it can do is remove worries and doubts, which leaves more place for happiness

wet storm
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you can illegally buy drugs which will make you emotionally happy on a short period

vernal moth
mental meadow
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sure but you wouldn't have to worry about having a place to sleep

vernal moth
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Yeah, it's all perspective

mental meadow
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lonely

vernal moth
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You will always find stuff to worry about and be sad about

raven basin
mental meadow
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yeah but that brings it's own set of problems

golden gust
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popular for all the wrong reasons

vernal moth
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Like, I have significantly more income than most of my friends, but that doesn't mean I am more happy than they are

golden gust
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I used to know somebody who had part stakes in an native indian casino

golden gust
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Guy always had a nice cash flow and until shit got far too deep, he was okay to work for; but, I mean, the friends around him where often only ever really there to take advantage of them

raven basin
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Go on a cruise lol

vernal moth
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Cruises suck, lol

golden gust
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what?

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Who wouldn't be floating across the ocean in a bacterial breeding tube?

raven basin
mental meadow
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He's a Paper Core Team member, what do you expect

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❀️

vernal moth
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A cruise is being stuck in a giant stinking high rise building, traveling from port city to port city which then get flooded by tourists, you have no individuality, no choice to plan your day, no nothing, plus you are actively destroying the global and local environment, no thank you

raven basin
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you didn't get the message

vernal moth
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And no, I am not stuck inside all day, I can't do as much as I want cause my friends are all busy and don't have as much freedom as I am, but I still get out multiple times per week with friends

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And am not saying am miserable all day, lol

mental meadow
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I'm staying inside and playing yugioh, 10/10

raven basin
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Just buy some Mug

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instant +100 happiness every sip

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Mug moment

vernal moth
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Ngl, being out drinking with friends is when I am the happiest right now, like straight smile for hours, lol

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Just, that's not healthy nor sustainable to do every day πŸ˜‚

wet storm
raven basin
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Me without mug 😭

vernal moth
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I want PaperMC mugs

raven basin
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Me with mug think_smart

golden gust
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mini reminded me of the DCS ship and its horn

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and then I heard the "when you wish upon a star" horn

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and I had to google the OG lyrics because like, all that came to my head was "have you ever wondered why, fairy tales all end in lies?"

spare venture
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cruises are fun

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but are not worth the cost of those boats existing

mental meadow
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I never understood the appeal tbh, like yeah it might be fun but the activities I can do on a cruise I can usually do on every other hotel, and I'm not cramped in there with a couple hundred people in super small rooms

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for me it just sounds like giant-ass floating hotel with way too little space and way too many people that lets you stay at cool places for 1 day

wide chasm
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I do kinda want to go on a cruise one day; mainly just to experience what it's like, but my god cruises are expensive.

magic river
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Instead of going on a 10 day cruise you could run a mining rig for a few years

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The cruise would probably still use more CO2

wide chasm
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Yes, but, a cruise sounds a bit more fun than running a mining rig

spare venture
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because you’re on a moving hotel that takes you to a bunch of cool places in a short time. and that hotel is luxurious as hell

worn ember
twin lagoon
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@mental meadow

mental meadow
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!! ❀️

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i s2g Daniel finish writingHEFSGuraStare

wet storm
# vernal moth And no, I am not stuck inside all day, I can't do as much as I want cause my fri...

What would you advise me, as a teenager, to spend my time on? I had holidays which lasted 9 days, and all of these days I stuck inside all day learning many programming things, but it doesn't really helpful for school, and usually I can't balance between school and my hobby and idk what to do in these cases... I don't play any video games, I don't go outside, I sleep less, only things I do are watching youtube vids, chatting in discord and programming...

worn ember
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if you enjoy that does it really matter?

frank otter
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Do you play an instrument?

wet storm
worn ember
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well try to balance them then

vernal moth
worn ember
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Mini you played timberborn too right?

vernal moth
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Ye

worn ember
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i'm working on a seasons mod lol

mental meadow
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school doesn't matter nearly as much as people say, don't care what anyone else says

worn ember
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paper general advice coming through kek

mental meadow
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what do you expect from me πŸ˜„

warm anchor
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Just get gud? ded

mental meadow
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ez

wet storm
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Okay, thanks for your opinions on that

vernal moth
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I mean, school for sure helped me end up where I am today

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You can do it without it, sure

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It's just way harder

mint meadow
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Shouldn't it be Copyright 2018-2022 instend of 2018-2021?

teal raptor
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what are your favourite plugins that people dont really know of

worthy geode
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my own kekw

stuck lynx
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for all germans in this chat
https://youtu.be/jQF7NmL29qY

πŸ“―πŸ“―πŸ“― Kanal abonnieren: https://www.youtube.com/user/Postillon24?sub_confirmation=1 πŸ“―πŸ“―πŸ“―
Nie wieder Nordic Walking! Das hat sich Holger Weiß (44) aus Rambach bei Wiesbaden nach einem wahren Horrortrip geschworen.

AusfΓΌhrlicher Artikel: https://www.der-postillon.com/2009/04/todesfalle-nordic-walking.html

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mint meadow
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i gota claim it fast

teal raptor
magic river
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I'm sad Starship 4/20 never got to fly

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It took so long to get launch approval (still haven't afaik) that SpaceX changed basically everything about the ship design including the engines so they're just scrapping the old version

vernal moth
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Well, they scrapped that idea once they knew they couldn't launch on 4/20

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So I understand that

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It would have been so nice to launch 4/20 on 4/20, my birthday

magic river
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Isn't that Hitler's birthday?

vernal moth
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Yep

worn ember
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4/20 blaze it

magic river
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Oh yeah I'm only sad because of the memes πŸ˜›

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Otherwise the only sad part is that they're delayed, I don't care what one ends up getting used

spare venture
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that’s the most important of anything

mental meadow
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health > social life

true canyon
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As good weather starts, going for walks is nice. Sometimes I travel to nearby parks with nature trails.

wet storm
spare venture
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social life and being healthy > everything else

worn ember
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that'll narrow it down

teal raptor
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but what is google even gonna answer

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imagine it just spits out the date because it has the data

wet storm
lament patio
teal raptor
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imagine being that sad

mental meadow
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maybe gift ideas or something

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like that's something I could imagine people searching

teal raptor
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thats also sad

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and why would you search for birthday gifts

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i know people are dumb but that dumb

mental meadow
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I'm super bad with that I never know what I could give people, so usually me

twin lagoon
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^

wet storm
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we've lost the future of our modern society πŸ˜” /s

twin lagoon
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gift ideas is definitely something i'd look up PepeLa

mental meadow
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did you just

golden gust
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first year of uni we thought it would be fun to do like a secret santa

left swift
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aurora isnt inactive anymore yippie

mental meadow
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did you really just imply I'm the future

golden gust
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all of us guys who pulled out one of the girls ended up just going to LUSH

left swift
mental meadow
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lush is epic though, nothing beats a nice bath bomb

left swift
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bomb? 1778_monkaW

mental meadow
golden gust
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WE ARE SEX BOB-OM

vernal moth
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I only gift time nowadays, way easier, way more worth

mental meadow
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Mini you're a hipster

vernal moth
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Lol

wet storm
vernal moth
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For real tho, gifting somebody a day where you do X together is way more worth than something material

mental meadow
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depends on the person tbh

vernal moth
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I learned that when people started to gift me that, because it's impossible to gift me something, if I need something I can just buy it

mental meadow
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like would I want to be gifted a day together with cat? probably not

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on the other hand

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mh

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good idea

twin lagoon
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what?

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gifting a day together with cat?

mental meadow
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@golden gust :3

vernal moth
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A night in a pub with cat, that's gonne provide quite the entertainment I would guess

mental meadow
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OH MY GOD I just had the lyrics on spotify on and I finally get to see the lyrics for this song

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IT ALWAYS SOUNDED LIKE YOU OUGHTA LIKE STARING AT MY ASSHOLE AND I WAS SO CONFUSED

vernal moth
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I mean

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My soul prolly is an asshole

spare venture
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gifting a memorable experience is usually way better than gifting them something they probably won’t use or care too much about

magic river
teal raptor
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everyone wants money

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almost everyone needs money

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so why not

magic river
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My mom works at a bar and when she gives money for a present it's always saved up tips from work

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So I have a drawer with like $300 in $1 bills from gifts from her πŸ˜›

teal raptor
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that would annoy me the hell out lmao

magic river
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I think she does it because it's more personal than a few $20s, she might also just think it's funny though

left swift
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a quarter for every birthday

spare venture
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giving money is the laziest gift possible

left swift
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not true boomer

teal raptor
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but the best one imo

spare venture
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absolutely not

teal raptor
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why

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you can buy anything you want with it

left swift
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boomers think its rude

teal raptor
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and if you have problems with money, there you go

left swift
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chad probably gets mad too when someone says no problem when they help him with something

spare venture
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shows you didn’t put any thought into it

teal raptor
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but i am giving this person my hard earned money

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imagine all of your friends are poor

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you now got many things you may or may not want

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the thing you really desire is expensive

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if they all give you money

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you get that thing

left swift
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or you just have a technology illiterate family and gift cards are the easiest way to order online

spare venture
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well where i come from gifts are supposed to have meaning behind them, that you care about them and put some thought into it

left swift
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no wonder you always sending me gifts chad

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I knew you cared about me

spare venture
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i would never gift you anything

teal raptor
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gift cards are a thing, its like giving you money but you are only limited to one thing

left swift
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then why do I keep getting brown bags on my porch

spare venture
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gift cards are slightly better than cash

left swift
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it has really weird chocolate in them

void void
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that might be cat

teal raptor
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im always annoyed when someone gives me a gift card because what if i dont want to buy anything from there

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i now have money i cant use

spare venture
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at least with a gift card you put thought into what they would want to buy. but still i don’t like them

near wolf
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What's the difference between velocity and waterfall?

left swift
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magic

upbeat falconBOT
mint meadow
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one is better one is a bit not better

spare venture
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jesus christ the first reply

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try the second result on google

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the first result is apparently shit

magic river
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My grandma just gets me some kind of shirt for a gift, anything cool/interesting in the price range she aims for I generally either already have or don't want

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I told her, my mom, and my sister to just get me a shirt with something funny on it or a gag gift or something

left swift
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amaranth has onlyfans money

spare venture
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personally the best gifts are decorations, something useful that you know they want, clothes, and experiences (taking them out for lunch, going to a movie, etc)

near wolf
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Got it

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Thanks

magic river
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When she asks me for something specific I want I either can't think of anything or if I do I want it enough I'll just go buy it now πŸ˜›

spare venture
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yup

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that’s why it’s can be good to buy them something they wouldn’t think of or want to spend money on themselves

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shows you put a lot of thought into it

left swift
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no one deserves that much effort

spare venture
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especially u

left swift
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exactly

magic river
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Doesn't even matter if I actually like the thing they get me or not

left swift
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thank you for seeing my point

magic river
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If it's a shirt I'll at least wear it a couple times, if it's a knick-knack it'll spend a few months on my desk, etc

spare venture
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does this carpet look like it should cost $75 to a security deposit to clean

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the rest of the apartment generally looks like that

mint meadow
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75$ for a carpet?

wet storm
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πŸ›Œ

worthy geode
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maybe they think it should be white kekw

magic river
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There are a couple spots on it and there is a minimum fee and such

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You don't want to steam clean just part of it, you have to do the whole room

spare venture
left swift
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dont be so wild on ur carpets next time

spare venture
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security deposit should only be used for things outside of that. that’s general turnover costs

magic river
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eh, landlord is basically going to charge you for any money they have to spend between you leaving and someone else moving in

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Or try to anyway

spare venture
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yeah i see zero spots. only shadows

spare venture
left swift
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lmao

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karen

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today seems like a good day to pick on barty

spare venture
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since when is not being happy about being screwed by a landlord a karen thing

left swift
#

just the "they can see me in small claims" sentence

magic river
#

I don't think I've ever seen someone get their entire security deposit back

spare venture
left swift
#

it's ok barty

potent wedge
#

I only just realized the things on paperchans ears are paper airplanes

magic river
#

I could see how one of them could be a shadow

wet storm
spare venture
#

they’re shadows/footprints. i had to take a screenshot of a video with poor lighting

#

according to the landlord there is a darkish β€œspot” in the top left of that image

magic river
#

Lighting sucks too much to say anything for sure

#

I only called out those spots because they're in the lit part, the rest of it you can't see anything

spare venture
#

yeah

#

landlord trying to justify charging me for carpet cleaning of the entire apartment because of two slightly discolored darkish spots of about 1 sq ft in size, in the entire 780 sq ft apartment

#

they’re not spills/pet urine/deep stains or anything. just the carpet is slightly darker lol

magic river
#

I would guess that $75 is for one at most two hours of having the cleaner and there is probably a one or two hour minimum so they may as well get them to clean the whole place instead of coming for 15 minutes and paying that much anyway

#

Carpet cleaning is the thing I always see landlords charge people for

#

Some of them will also hit you up for painting the place if you lived there long enough

#

They need to clean the carpet after every resident anyway and paint every N years but they'll make you pay for it

#

Like, spots on the carpet or not they were going to have the carpet cleaner there

spare venture
#

correct but the law in washington forbids that from being charged to me

magic river
#

But the spots gave them the excuse to make you pay for it

spare venture
#

β€œUpon termination and vacation, restore the premises to their initial condition except for reasonable wear and tear or conditions caused by failure of the landlord to comply with his or her obligations under this chapter. The tenant shall not be charged for normal cleaning if he or she has paid a nonrefundable cleaning fee.” - the law

#

β€œThe landlord may charge for carpet cleaning or painting if there are damages caused by the tenant beyond normal wear and tear.”

  • tenants union of washington
magic river
#

Yeah but do you really want to fight over $75?

spare venture
#

no

magic river
#

They know you don't/can't so they'll fuck you

spare venture
#

that’s why i said if 50% or more of my deposit gets taken for BS like that

magic river
#

And every other tenant so it's worth it for them

spare venture
#

$75 isn’t worth my time for sure

#

the past four apartments i’ve occupied i’ve learned to just not clean much when moving out because they’re going to charge you anyway

magic river
#

Yep

#

They have some argument for why you should have to pay so it's not blatant and it's not worth fighting

#

Like, you'd essentially get in to an argument about what "reasonable wear" means

spare venture
#

well their argument is they hope you just don’t care

#

yeah

left swift
#

I mean $75 isnt worth court for them either

#

talk about court maybe they'll be whatever

#

or try to keep ur whole deposit PEPW

magic river
#

Right, they might go for an extra layer of nitpick and counter sue for your whole deposit plus and they could make it hard for you to find another place to rent

left swift
#

nah

spare venture
#

my plan is to just bring up some of the charges and see what they say. worst they can do is say β€œno, sue us”

vague lagoon
#

america?

spare venture
#

yes

left swift
#

south

spare venture
left swift
#

west america

#

new continent

magic river
#

That's what we'll call California after the big one

upbeat falconBOT
spare venture
#

which would be worse, san andreas fault or the cascades subduction zone?

#

because what i’ve heard is if the cascadia subduction zone rips it’ll hit seattle pretty hard with a 9.0 magnitude quake

left swift
#

welcome back to the discord

#

glad you can trust us for your google needs

upbeat falconBOT
left swift
#

something funny about using the bot to google the lmgtfy site

#

did you learn kotlin yet

spare venture
#

the internet is a privacy nightmare

magic river
#

Cascadia subduction zone doesn't look like it would rip a state in two so no, I don't think it'd be worse πŸ˜›

#

Although I guess it might plunge a part of the coast in to the ocean?

vestal jasper
#

I tend to expect 0 privacy when browsing the internet

#

Anything I do on it is to some extent public or known by someone

left swift
#

oh you're one of those tinfoil hat internet users

#

that's why you leave and delete all your messages

vestal jasper
#

What lol

#

You're jumping to conclusions

left swift
#

not you josh

vestal jasper
#

Ah ok

left swift
#

you should try IRC

magic river
#

Oh and hey they'll both happen at the same time, the Cascadia subduction zone is the trigger for the worst earthquakes from the San Andreas Fault over the past 3000 years

left swift
spare venture
#

ya

magic river
#

So Seattle is going to kill LA some day

spare venture
left swift
#

nice

spare venture
#

so it’ll take me out πŸ˜”

left swift
#

hopefully it also triggers yellowstone

vestal jasper
#

Isn't New York kinda far from the PNW?

spare venture
#

that’s a little far away nomana

left swift
#

nothing is far enough away

spare venture
#

no just yours so i don’t have to see your messages here anymore

vestal jasper
#

Let's just go avatar kyoshi and send Cali out to sea

magic river
#

There are some major geological features between yellowstone and those two

left swift
red timber
#

sounds like skill issue

void void
left swift
#

dont talk to me

void void
#

eewww poki gross

#

you have a cool name

#

but you like poki

true canyon
vestal jasper
#

Can we just drop the whole MB/Mb thing

#

I'm downloading a game and the speed is in Mb but the progress is in MB/GB

true canyon
#

Yes, let's compromise and measure in nibbles.

wet storm
red timber
#

this gif tbh

quick pasture
#

L, contains 2x counter ratio

rugged plank
#

Does anyone have a copy of a music notation software called SCORE?

golden gust
#

I mean, this isn't the place for people to hook you up with warez

#

tried the wayback machine?

#

depending on how sites host files it's often easy to get the thing off there

wet storm
#

Okay, the most interesting search in this discord are "politic" from jroy and "furry" from leaf

cunning raft
#

ok

#

cc @waxen panther

twin lagoon
#

@waxen panther

tropic flame
#

me in 2017 but with skype because "hey, discord is lighter and doesn't make you suffer frame drops!"

#

and then it backfires on me years later because now the client is a hog kekw

little frost
#

γƒ©γ‚€γƒ³γ‚„γ£γ¦γ‚‹οΌŸ

warm anchor
#

LINE is really only used in certain Asia region

magic river
#

Oh, it's the no winnie the pooh version of discord?

warm anchor
#

Line is more like WhatsApp

#

Chinese still use QQ groups pretty sure

twin lagoon
little frost
#

ο½—ο½—ο½—ο½—ο½—

waxen panther
magic river
#

Help I can't stop listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VTkBuxU4yk

Ascend the throne. K/DA is back with β€œMORE,” featuring Madison Beer, SOYEON and MIYEON of (G)I-DLE, Lexie Liu, Jaira Burns, and Seraphine.

K/DA is a virtual music supergroup by Ahri, Evelynn, Akali, and Kai’Sa. Look out for their upcoming ALL OUT EP, releasing on November 6, 2020.

Follow @KDA_MUSIC on Twitter and Instagram for updates.

LISTEN...

β–Ά Play video
magic river
#

TIL when you get kicked on Discord it loses its damn mind

#

It rejoined and everything was working fine but it was maxing out a core and wouldn't stop until I killed it and restarted

lilac moon
#

and that really says something

#

one time i was able to run 2 minecraft clients, 2 paper servers, one velocity proxy, and intellij all at the same time

spare venture
#

madison beer lol

tropic flame
#

i join all calls through my phone

#

and now that i understand about programming compared to back then I realize it was just a ticking bomb, it could never be truly "lightweight for gaming" being an Electron app lmfao

lilac moon
#

it's not electron honestly though

#

because i know tons of electron apps that are fine performance wise

magic river
#

I guess I just don't game on a potato or don't play the games where this matters

lilac moon
#

this pc is possibly a potato

#

gpu is ok because it's upgraded but cpu is a 2nd gen i5

magic river
#

Discord it the most performant of the Electron chat apps

lilac moon
#

there is no way that's true

#

discord must leak memory or something, i dont know what it is

#

but it gets slower and slower over time until reloading

magic river
#

Compared to Mattermost, Zulip, Slack, and Element it's super fast and memory efficient

lilac moon
#

element is the only one i've used and it was way less memory intensive and way less cpu usage

#

at least it was for me

#

although the servers i talk in on discord and element have way more images and video than this discord server does

#

i assume that's what has the most performance impact

magic river
#

On Element I was in IRC relays with some of the busiest IRC channels that still exist πŸ˜›

#

So yeah, that's probably a factor

lilac moon
#

i was in a lot of the large public rooms on element, that also had an effect on why my self hosted synapse server performed so badly

magic river
#

It was also just stupidly high latency compared to real IRC and felt like it was high latency for native matrix chats too but I didn't have anything to compare it with

lilac moon
#

yeah you have to have worker processes (multiple instances of synapse that work in parallel) to get any good latency in large rooms

#

it's so easy for rooms to get slow

#

i dont think i explained that well

#

irc rooms perform exceptionally badly, especially when joining because of the user count and the size of the room history

#

the way i understand it is that the more room history, the more complexity the room's DAG graph has, so it takes more resources to deal with

left swift
#

jroy has secretly been the head of the underground politics channel this whole time

brave mountain
#

Hi

#

I see a lot of text

foggy veldt
#

Close your eyes

unreal pike
#

which color looks better

silver nexus
#

2nd one.

magic river
#

first one

void void
#

the middle

warm anchor
#

This is not colorblind friendly

lilac moon
#

well at least the color isnt critical for reading it

primal solar
young current
#

Is there any way to get chunkbans working? I have every permission in my server.

ashen cliff
#

But why?

cedar spade
#

Yes

mental meadow
#

I just got a first for me, getting a bsod in Windows PE. What the hell happened to this laptop

ashen cliff
#

Bad memory?

tender cloud
#

I might have found a bug with paper πŸ˜…
edit: it was my texture pack my bad

wet storm
#

gimme one then

merry warren
#

Does anyone have the tebex discord in their servers they can invite me to in DMs? I'm guessing someone here has it as I can't find the link on their website??

wet storm
prisma cliff
#

look at these beautiful shrooms

nocturne dust
#

θŠœζΉ–θ΅·ι£ž

past cloud
#

mods exist not sure about plugins

nocturne dust
#

ζˆ‘δ»–ε¦ˆη›΄ζŽ₯θŠœζΉ–θ΅·ι£ž

void void
#

Who have a best resources pack for use rank tags minecraft. Like member,owner rank tags. If anyone have let send me a inbox massege please

vernal moth
#

Oh I get an inbox massage?

void void
#

Ok

red halo
#

rsync

glass crag
#

winscp

tropic flame
#

is this something you really need from FileZilla?

#

i mean, by that i assume you want a "are you sure you want to do this?" prompt?

#

out of the GUI apps imo the best one is filezilla really but Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

fiery orbit
#

I'm pretty sure Filezilla will prompt you if you try to overwrite files. Otherwise having a prompt when uploading files seems pretty unnecessary

tropic flame
#

yes

worn ember
#

smh smh

#

at least looking for the "any" key makes sense

tropic flame
worn ember
#

no

tropic flame
#

yes

worn ember
#

but the power button isnt a key

tropic flame
#

all keys are buttons but not all buttons are keys

tropic flame
#

true

atomic vine
#

some laptops have power key

wet storm
atomic vine
#

just use terminal

#

definetly wont go wrong

primal solar
#

I haven't noticed you

magic river
#

I wasn't aware anything did that

wet storm
#

What do you think, will it worth to learn C for some experiments with concurrency at low level?

magic river
#

Rust

wet storm
#

hmm... good option, I already know some rust basics, and I've made some simple server with Rocket framework, but I am not sure about it

magic river
#

It's made for memory safety, the fact that those rules also got you thread safety almost for free was a pleasant surprise

#

I think the only way to get that kind of guarantee is to enforce a specific threading model (immutable/persistent everything, actors, etc) or to duplicate the borrow checker

#

Or do a bespoke proof for your specific codebase, see you in 5 years

stuck lynx
magic river
#

So yeah, Rust is better than Java πŸ˜›

wet storm
magic river
#

afaik the C++ memory model is mostly just the Java memory model and while Rust doesn't currently have one defined it more or less does by defining the semantics of atomics

#

iirc someone is/was working on locking down the definitions for all this stuff (borrow checker, memory model, etc) and creating proofs they actually provide the protection we think they do

#

I think it started as a PhD project and turned in to a company

#

They only got a subset formalized so the plan was to make a compiler for that subset that met the criteria for use in avionics and medical devices and such

#

And work to expand that subset to cover more and hopefully all of the language

wet storm
#

okay, thanks, I'll try to do something with it, I am interested in low level concurrency because of digging leaf's concurrent util and finding something like this: (see pic) and also JMM doesn't specify specific VarHandle accesses which also used in leaf's concurrent util...

magic river
#

From that thesis:

Rust is even able to guarantee that the program is free from data races, which means there is no unintended communication between threads through shared memory. This goes beyond the safety guarantees of mainstream "safe" languages (In contrast, Java gives very weakly defined semantics to data races. In Go and Swift, data races can even violate memory safety.), making Rust both a more powerful and a safer language.

#

The thesis is basically about proving that's true

pallid ginkgo
#

did someone already see the video from liveoverflow about Minecraft & it security? It also mentions paper πŸ˜„ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXdFckukh2I

In this episode we learn how Minecraft servers are implemented by looking at PaperMC and tracing the dependencies. Turns out the custom Minecraft servers rely on decompiling the server source code! It's insane what this Minecraft community has created.

Paper Server: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper
Minecraft EULA: https://www.minecraft.net/en-u...

β–Ά Play video
spare venture
#

it’s just about him reading server software code

vernal moth
#

It's a cool video

#

It's always interesting to see new people enter the community and try to untangle the mess we created

void void
#

oh, he made a second video

#

nice

vernal moth
#

Like, he only got half of the truth, we use a mix of yarn and official mappings, we also use two (well, kinda 3) different forks of Fernflower, spigot is a fork of Bukkit, etc

#

It's suuuuuuch a mess

worthy geode
#

I thought it was just an april 1st vid, but nice that he continues it

vernal moth
#

Oh he has multiple episodes planned out

void void
#

noobz

#

i hope i dont get banned for this

vernal moth
#

Can you try to not be an asshole?

void void
#

but it was so funny

vernal moth
#

It's funny that you get your facts from a dum YouTube video

void void
#

its not true?

vernal moth
#

It's part of the truth

#

But I don't feel like rehashing the past

void void
#

:(

#

Martin doesn't like telling us stories

mint meadow
#

nocom?

void void
#

probably

#

i dont remember anything

#

but i just went to the store ^-^

vernal moth
#

Why would I waste time talking to somebody who just wanna cause trouble?

void void
#

i bought myself some really good food

void void
vernal moth
#

Making fun of the work of volunteers is not funny

#

It just makes you look like an asshole

void void
#

dont take it so seriously come on

mint meadow
void void
#

:(

void void
#

the tease was not worth the risk

#

i ruined my relationship with Digger

#

at least electroniccat doesn't hate me so i have at least that i guess

ashen cliff
#

Can't really ruin something that never existed. πŸ›Œ

void void
#

no Digger would talk to me in the past

#

a little but still he would respond

ashen cliff
#

Not how it works.

void void
#

krusic im sad

#

he didnt find it funny

ashen cliff
#

Same here, but I'm just sad because I'm playing Gregtech.

void void
#

i will go home and watch an anime

#

just forget about this

#

i also have a nice sausage

#

a little bit of salt and some bread

#

and thats a very good meal for you

ashen cliff
#

I want to go to a timeline where someone asked.

void void
#

bonk bonk bonk

#

you will care

#

is that you in your pfp?

ashen cliff
#

Perhaps.

void void
#

i will donate 5 euros to paper one day and martin will forgive me

#

tomorrow is monday so work is gonna start again

true canyon
#

I don't think that's how it works.

mint meadow
#

one day

void void
#

time to work hard

worthy geode
#

not sure about the forgiving part, but you will get a nice heart

void void
#

8 euros then?

void void
#

i want a heart from Mini

mint meadow
#

1000 euros

worthy geode
#

probably not

void void
#

oof

#

what will i get for the 8 euros then?

mint meadow
#

-8 euros

void void
#

and a happy emoji from martin?

#

or a heart emoji?

worthy geode
#

please contact a paper sales representative for answers to these questions

vernal moth
#

And bring tacos

void void
#

okay next week when i get my salary i will donate 8 euros and i will ask Martin to send me a heart emoji

#

today i spent 10 euros on 200 grams of chicken but the chicken is pasture raised so its healthier

#

kinda crazy but healthy

mint meadow
#

oil is my country is so pricey rn

#

😒

foggy silo
#

Sorry I drank all your oil

wet storm
raven basin
#

you sound extremely annoying

void void
mint meadow
#

Original message was deleted.

raven basin
#

lol

void void
#

i just wanted to have some fun

raven basin
#

he said something along the lines of "Remember when paper allowed you to get other players coordinates"

wet storm
mint meadow
raven basin
#

2b2t is a shit server

#

I used to play on it a lot and crystal pvp practice servers throughout 2019-2021

#

And I wasted a lot of my life doing it

mint meadow
#

same

wet storm
#

same, but 2019 - 2020

vernal moth
#

This would actually be a cool idea, get liveoverflow to make a better video about nocom

worthy geode
#

sounds like something he would be interested in

void void
#

Send him a twitter DM, he reads and replies to them all :P

#

im upset now

#

i thought i had bought the sausage i had but hadnt

#

its probably left in the basket at the store

#

i really wanted that sausage

#

im upset now

#

it looked really delicious and it would have probably gone very well with bread and salt

#

just shit...

wet storm
vernal moth
#

Daisy chaining words

#

Plus the stupidity of assigning gender to words

#

Oh and Du vs Sie, also total bullshit

#

Honestly, there is so much

golden gust
#

and then theres the people themselves

wet storm
#

like, I need to have gender "mappings" in my head for both german in russian

red timber
#

i'm glad that i know enough russian to say that i don't understand & speak russian, and maybe figure out what people talk about when i focus

wet storm
#

and, yes, also:

wet storm
golden gust
#

are you slav

#

literal flag in profile box

wet storm
#

😩 lemme quickly die of cringe

worn ember
#

ah yes the ee flag

#

πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ͺ

wet storm
worn ember
mint meadow
mint meadow
#

intellij or vscode?

frank otter
#

neovim is the only ide my computer can comfortably run

wet storm
#

intellij

mint meadow
#

i want to just use one central ide insted of using 4 ide's at the same time

twin lagoon
frank otter
mint meadow
#

yeah but for java vscode fails

worn ember
#

intellij for java for sure

frank otter
#

makes sense. Does jb have a many-languages ide? last I heard they had like thirty-odd for every language under the sun

wet storm
#

I use vscode as a notebook

worn ember
#

if you cant run it at least use eclipse or netbeans, vscode is just a pain to set up

frank otter
#

yeah don't java with vscode at all

worn ember
#

intellij can do a lot of langs but they do have like clion for c and rider for C#

#

probably cuz they're fundamentally different in how they work

mint meadow
#

how many ide's does intellij even have?

twin lagoon
#

intellij functions as one ide for pretty much every language

worn ember
#

intellij is an ide

frank otter
#

you might mean jetbrains?

worn ember
#

jetbrains is the company

mint meadow
#

yes

#

whatever

worn ember
twin lagoon
#

yeah but intellij ultimate replaces pretty much all of those

worn ember
#

not really

twin lagoon
#

if you're a student you get a free license

mint meadow
#

you do?

worthy geode
#

yes

twin lagoon
#

if you run an opensource project you get a free license

mint meadow
#

oh wow

#

didnt knew that

worthy geode
#

not sure if its still using github student or via their own stuff, but definitely yes (I have one)

worn ember
#

i think you gotta do it through their own thing now

#

thats how i do it at least

twin lagoon
#

can do both

#

you still need a jetbrains account but you can log in with github to do it

worthy geode
#

they basically just send you an email to your uni/school mail and you need to click a link there and thats pretty much it

vernal moth
#

you can neither use the student nor the OSS version commercially tho

mint meadow
#

it also has github copilot i think

worn ember
#

well yeah that speaks for itself

vernal moth
#

many people dont know that, lol

worn ember
#

what about the eap versions?

vernal moth
#

those are free for all iirc

#

but you send usage statistics

#

something like that, never read the eap license

worn ember
#

bleh i need plugin idea's, i'm running out of shit to overengineer on rtp lol

worthy geode
#

would make sense for EAP. but they also are a bit buggy (as expected)

vernal moth
#

I run EAP on all my machines

worn ember
#

i wanna use rider so bad but i can't cuz blazor debugging still doesnt work lol

worthy geode
#

rider + unity works so well, its amazing. No idea why I used VS before kekw

magic river
#

I pay for the all products pack, use mostly just WebStorm, and use EAP all the time

worthy geode
worn ember
#

you just wanna see me suffer

unkempt drift
#

doesn't vanilla have a built in chest protection system?

#

I don't see why you would use anything not developed by Mojang, the developer of Minecraft. They want to make sure everything runs properly. Putting a bucket on top of your server will not help it run better. It will only hurt it. Paper? Come on. Snake oil

worthy geode
#

I just don't wanna suffer myself kekw

magic river
#

I'm basically paying for that two week period of stable when I wait for the most obvious breakage and plugin updates before moving to the next EAP

vernal moth
#

I use IJ, webstorm and datagrib

worn ember
#

ah yes the best IDE datagrib

void void
#

IJ, Goland, Datagrip and Rider here

worn ember
#

i use dotpeek quite a bunch now

mint meadow
#

nano

magic river
#

I only use the parts of datagrip that are in WebStorm or IDEA

void void
worn ember
#

yeah same mostly

twin lagoon
#

the pricing for jetbrains products aren't even that bad though

#

gets cheaper every year you have a subscription

unkempt drift
#

fleet is still in closed beta?

worn ember
#

i just realized i use rider commercially monkaS

worthy geode
#

student fees are cheaper tho kekw

twin lagoon
#

you also get a discount as student

vagrant gust
#

Hey, small question, does Paper 1.17.1 has log4j patched?

worn ember
#

long time

twin lagoon
#

the latest version on the legacy page, yes

warm anchor
#

The latest one yes

vernal moth
#

but please, just update...

worthy geode
#

I think the latest one might have it patched

vagrant gust
#

okay, thx for the kind help animatedHeart

magic river
#

Student version you can't use to make professional stuff though

warm anchor
#

There is no point being on .17 anyway .18 already had and runs better @vagrant gust

worn ember
unkempt drift
#

anyone got the latest server forks image?

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I have no clue where to find that nowadays

warm anchor
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Ask Noah

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Oh he’s typing

worthy geode
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Unity is also just a mess. I remember the at least three different ways to make an animation kekw

void void
unkempt drift
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ok, im saving it locally now

worn ember
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send that to lifeoverflow

void void
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Already did that lol

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That’s why I had it

worn ember
vernal moth
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a hundred people did send it to him, lol

wet storm
worn ember
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then he'll surely see it

mint meadow
worthy geode
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and what is very many players, lol

worn ember
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more than 5

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cuz thats when vanilla breaks down

void void
wet storm
worn ember
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i have a friend who has an assignment to refactor an open source project and asked me if i had any project, so naturally i gave him the RTP repo
First thing he replies "oh thanks, i can do all the tasks on this one repo"
not sure if i should be happy or offended

mint meadow
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how long does it usually take for a pull request to be reviewed?

unkempt drift
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depends on what's in it

void void
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depends on how many PRs MM has open pepela

golden gust
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depends

mint meadow
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ok

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just asking

golden gust
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I think that we're all just a bunch of burned out code who... er...

unkempt drift
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what are you referencing specifically?

worn ember
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just trick them into merging it

mint meadow
void void
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Oh, the velocity pr?

unkempt drift
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oh on the docs? I thought that was a duplciate pr

mint meadow
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ye

unkempt drift
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oh velocity, yeah dont pay attention to that

worn ember
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dont think anyone does

unkempt drift
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just not my thing

worn ember
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net code monkaS

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i already wanted to kms when i was doing device discovery on a local network

void void
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So ig I told him something people hadn't sent him yet :P

wet storm
worn ember
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not really

mint meadow
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minecraft written in brainfuck

worn ember
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i know that i know nothing which is in itself a paradox

golden gust
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net code is not that bad

worn ember
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do you do net stuff cat?

golden gust
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he says thinking that the first book he wants to purchase when he can is netty in action

worn ember
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if so, i rest my case

wet storm
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concurrent code vs net code. Choose your favourite

golden gust
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before I hit burnout hell I was defacto waterfall lead :L

mint meadow
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neovim vs emacs?

worn ember
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tf do you do all day now

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WHAT MORE IS THERE TO LIFE THAN MINECRAFT??

golden gust
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Well, given pandemic, just a bit of work here and there

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now I'm in this fun area where the job market is kinda opening back up but I've pandemic'd out and don't really have the resource to like, get out

worn ember
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its ez, one foot infront of the other

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gonna have to start a full time job soon too monkaS

golden gust
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well, I have no good clothes right now

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Like, I gained weight during the pandemic and not been clothes shopping in 2 years

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and, so, right now, I can pray to my pants

worn ember
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lol i dont think i went shopping since a year before the pandemic

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i think all my shirts have holes in them

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my sweaters are still mostly ok, some are a bit worn out

wet storm
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Am I in parallel world or something? (Prob yes)

golden gust
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I'm expecting some cash soon, and basically first thing on my list is to go clothes shopping so that I can get some decent treads so that I have something I can attend interviews in, get a hair cut, and maybe look at keto again

worn ember
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ketamin

wet storm
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Personally, I don't have any issues with clothes due to pandemic, first time hearing that someone has one...

worn ember
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clothers are just optional in my eyes

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i wear what i like to wear and dont care about my looks

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i think i havent bought new shoes for over 3 years

golden gust
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I mean, I don't like ordering clothes online because I live in a fun place to get stuff delivered, only place I feel comfortable ordering from is amazon, but, they're not exactly cheap, which, pros and cons

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so, I've not bought a new pair of pants of anything in like what is probably close to 3, 4 years now?

worn ember
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yeah, pants last a long time though

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but if you get fat like cat over here then you're out of luck

golden gust
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Well, if am not doing a lot of eating am doing a lot of walking

worn ember
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i gotta cut down on snacks lol, i keep gaining weight but i cycle like 40mins/day and spend another 40 walking

mint meadow
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gn

hollow scaffold
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@wary dew

wet storm
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I don't touch grass go outside and don't gain weight, I hope I don't start to gain weight someday lol...

golden gust
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depends on age, intake, etc

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big countries have carb heavy diets in which it's so easy to pile on excess calories without lifting a finger

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which, is like, literally the entire issue

magic river
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nods along while eating a peanut butter sugar cookie

worn ember
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i had pudding before kek

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that was my dinner more or less

golden gust
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Joy is is that people have different metablism rates and it sorta like, as you get older, reduces; everybody I know who was skinny leaving highschool has podged out in varying amounts, some aren't as bad cos they run markets and shit and walk around all day, anything less than that, over the years

wet storm
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I had sausages with potatoes for dinner

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and a bit of salad

chrome sentinel
golden gust
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memes go in #gifs-and-memes

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shit memes go in the recycle bin

worn ember
wet storm
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memes in generalkekwhyper

golden gust
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I mean, idc about the odd meme in here, especially where it's relevant to context

worn ember
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cat gets angry at bad memes

golden gust
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Just, like, shit memes in bin is like, one of my odd statements

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just like, I mean

wet storm
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"just like, kinda sorta, I mean, you know"

golden gust
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kinda sorta only has 23 results

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shit memes, 7 (6 public)

worn ember
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i mean has like 7k

golden gust
worn ember
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lol

wet storm
worn ember
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gotta filter on his name big brain

golden gust
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We're talking about catisms here πŸ˜„

quasi valley
worn ember
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if i use an external download url on the spigot site does it still show "downloads"? I assume it just takes the clicks then?

vernal moth
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ye

wet storm
worn ember
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does it have to point to the direct url? or is the main page fine (that has the latest download)?

vernal moth
worn ember
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gotcha

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popping off kek

warm anchor
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Wait