But not better than 2b2t's black markets
#general
topaz mortar
Just no.
left swift
ok laurel
meager dawn
:)
rudimentary support for command literals
i'm still yet to consider whether i should do this
vernal moth
does it use truffle/graal?
meager dawn
OW2 ASM
vernal moth
so you generate bytecode? mmh, guess thats still worse than graal?
meager dawn
the output code is horrendous but theoretically functional
the project this is built on doesn't have proper support for primitive types so you have shit like this 
vernal moth
fun
meager dawn
so you generate bytecode? mmh, guess thats still worse than graal?
more specifically it uses https://github.com/Moderocky/Foundation
which is just a higher level wrapper around asm
wide chasm
That repo name scared me for a second
void void
Ew, what happened to the avatars in #paper-github
vernal moth
blame sulu
worn ember
whats a sulu?
cosmic raft
golden gust
!ban @left swift no
left swift
so close
worn ember
no one would stop you
left swift
if you ever do put the reason as "tier 3 pokimane"
golden gust
I mean, it's like, why would I give it what it wants?
left swift
worn ember
why not give me what i want ๐ฅบ
left swift
no one cares ded
left swift
worn ember
worn ember
i could hear the song in my head before you even sent it
crystal lilyBOT
green terrace
that's only 1.18.2
worthy geode
scroll down
golden gust
keep clicking the more button
hexed dragon
216
hexed dragon
Since 1.18.2
worn ember
thank you very cool
just make it as annoying as possible to download old versions
throw in some ads too
hexed dragon
No has been like that before for other versions.
worn ember
never noticed
hexed dragon
And 1.18 is 66
worn ember
pretty sure versions before that used to be there
or im just dum
like one version prior
cosmic raft
yes, when we support multiple
vernal moth
we never provide links for minors because there is no fucking reason you should ever use a outdated minor
like, using old versions is stupid already, but outdated minors?!
that makes absolutely no sense
vestal jasper
I'd argue using old versions isn't very stupid, expecting support for old versions is
Using old minors I agree is dumb
vernal moth
shut up nomana
left swift
vestal jasper
I could probably think of a few games where I prefer what they used to be
I still play classic from time to time tbh
green terrace
can you put mods in the paper server
vestal jasper
Paper only loads and supports plugins
green terrace
dang
vestal jasper
Same thing with spigot and CB
Bukkit isn't designed or intended to be used in a modded environment
And you always get subpar results if you attempt it anyway
raven basin
lol
topaz mortar
Bukkit isn't designed or intended to be used in a modded environment
At least not if nothing changes regarding that.
Getting rid of all hardcoded enums is a start in a long journey.
magic river
At the very least Chrome and all the various forks, 0day in V8
As in, actively being exploited right now
languid karma
just curl the website everytime you want to visit it
and just read the response smh
stuck lynx
(works best with realtime online games)
languid karma
no need to use this unnecessary "web browsers"
stuck lynx
Why use "chrome" when you can just imagine the website in your head
wet storm
run away, I did it, now my monorepo has a paper fork for internal purposes and automatic system for applying dev bundle for every plugin, so I can make some additional API or functionality in my fork, then freely use it in every paper plugin, it is pretty simple but nice addition...
sweet canopy
Is sand duping fully disabled w/ paper in 1.18.2
magic river
Apparently Edge is working on running without a JIT
I mean, they have a mode where you run without a JIT and instead get all the extra compiler provided security features that a JIT breaks
And they're working on having it automatically switch between the two modes based on how often you go to a site and how much the JIT would benefit it
This just confirms if you're using Chrome you should just use Edge, it's the better Chrome
stuck lynx
Well thank god tor is based on Firefox
magic river
Chrome is probably more secure than Firefox to start with and Edge is even more secure than that
I use Firefox because I value other things more but if you are using Chrome you should just use Edge
I actually do have Edge installed on my linux machine too, for when I need a Chrome for something
red timber
shit wifi drivers/chip
depending on the wifi hardware manufacturer, you have bad luck
e.g broadcom can fuck off (Asahi Linux improved some drivers considerably though), intel is just gimmicky as in some models work ok and bunch of them don't, realtek requires greatest and latest kernel usually to get best results, mediatek ๐ฎ , atheros so far best
magic river
broadcom wifi is usually okay, so long as the driver actually exists
atheros 802.11n stuff is great, it even has open source firmware
realtek networking in general is trash
Like, they try, odds are a driver exists but it's probably some out of tree thing that is compatible with like 3 kernel versions and crashes if you look at it funny because the people who wrote it shouldn't be allowed to use any language that doesn't have a GC
native wolf
*run away*, I did it, now my monorepo has a paper fork for internal purposes and...
wouldn't your plugin still not run on Paper and forks tho? Since your changes are made only in your fork there. (I may be missing something here)
magic river
I don't think they care, if you're forking Paper you must be running your own server so the plugins are probably private
native wolf
that would make sense
wet storm
I don't think they care, if you're forking Paper you must be running your own se...
Yeah, it is fully internal thing, I made fork for some special APIs that shouldn't be in paper, because our server is specific, but we don't wanna switch to fabric for cleaner way of making some server-side modded stuff, because of big code base which we have written before, and also because of some external APIs
magic river
Not public yet but there won't be much of one until/unless Google makes a blog post or infosec twitter posts a proof of concept
Twitter
wet storm
https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/1507793987222052869
๐
magic river
Software is hard
All the JIT (red) bugs in there are definitely JS engines, I suspect some/most of the non-JIT ones are too
tropic flame
https://twitter.com/Dinnerbone/status/1507793987222052869
LET'S GOOOOO
magic river
Java JIT isn't used (anymore) as a security boundary
Most of the exploits when it was were in the SecurityManager since that was easier to attack
There is no point to attacking HotSpot, if you are running code on that JIT you already won
You can do everything
Uh, yes
OpenJDK and all the various builds of it use the HotSpot JIT
Java JIT is HotSpot JIT
For most people
There is OpenJ9 too but no one uses that unless they're an IBM stack
I said it's not used as a security boundary
HotSpot Java doesn't stop you from reading and writing arbitrary files or making network connections
When it was used for applets on webpages there was a thing called SecurityManager to try to lock it down, that got exploited all the time
And I think some of those exploits involved attacking the JIT to confuse the SecurityManager
If you can exploit the JIT you can usually run native x86 code instead of trying to do things in Java so no SecurityManager to get in your way
sandboxing is a fairly new technique for "regular" users
OSes didn't used to make it all that easy to do either
afaik graal is generally faster but takes longer to get there and uses more RAM
Not sure why the project seems to be getting sidelined
OpenJDK
I suspect it's because Oracle is trying to keep parts of it closed source and without those parts it's generally comparable or worse and is more complicated so not worth it
Java was proprietary until 7
tropic flame
There is OpenJ9 too but no one uses that unless they're an IBM stack
no one uses that
laughs
I am still someone ๐
actually I can say some servers use OpenJ9 due to some support requests I've seen in skinsrestorer tbh
but yeah Minecraft is tailored around HotSpot
that's not the point of the discussion
- Forge is also spaghetti then because it breaks under OpenJ9
the more recent versions :p
1.12.2 works fine
magic river
OpenJ9 isn't a different version of Java, it's a completely different implementation of Java
Although I think these days it mostly just uses the OpenJDK classpath and focuses on the JIT and GC
Java used to be proprietary, remember?
tropic flame
OpenJ9 uses less RAM in exchange for CPU
tropic flame
im not sure what OpenJ9 breaks on SR but on Forge it's basically classloading issues, the way of doing it dynamically is different so they just gracefully fail to load because they don't have the resources to test both
magic river
Looks like a miscompile
https://github.com/SkinsRestorer/SkinsRestorerX/commit/989aef2710dde07a137fee7a6a31106558a5e3e0 is the commit that broke it so it wasn't the Optional breaking things
tropic flame
it seems like OpenJ9 does not like if the texture value is not empty or the texture signature is empty so that check was added
well, probably not this directly but something more buried within GameProfile's code
magic river
Oracle started charging to use their builds for commercial purposes
JetBrains is a bad example, you probably shouldn't use that one
I think they carry some patches for UI stuff
Between Adoptium and Coretto there should be no difference
Same with the Microsoft ones, Alibaba ones, etc
tropic flame
many of these vendors basically just rebrand and compile
at least I'm not sure if adoptium does anything meaningful to the source code
magic river
Every cloud is doing their own, every Linux distro was already doing their own because that's how distros work
tropic flame
that's the one i use
magic river
I think some of them promise security updates for old versions for longer than upstream cares about them
magic river
C compiler is written in C
Rust compiler is written in Rust
Go compiler is written in Go
tropic flame
the first compiler was in C
and then they compiled Java's Java compiler with the C compiler
magic river
First C-like compiler was written in BCPL then rewritten in the new language
Then as the language gained new features they'd do a build to get a binary that supported those features then rewrite parts of the compiler to use those new features
brave mountain
how about amazon corretto performance?
tropic flame
"IntelliJ's Java compiler" is likely just calling maven/Gradle which is calling whatever JDK you have's compiler
magic river
It really hurts to think about the fact that i++ in the C compiler is implemented by writing i++
tropic flame
idk if there's any IDE that patches the compiler - I remember NetBeans made some weird thing when Oracle changed the licensing around Java 8 so you had to install their plugin or something
or use Java 9
i mean, most of it is just fetching dependencies
actually compiling is other thing :p
magic river
Imagine you're adding i++ to a language that is written in that same language. For the first version you'd write if (f.equals('i++')) i += 1; (pseudocode, not how compilers work) then you'd compile your compiler and get a new binary that understands i++. Now you can change the source code to if (f.equals('i++')) i++; and compile it again with the new compiler.
Where did the implementation of i++ go? It only exists in the binary.
Now imagine someone did that but with an exploit
When you're compiling a C compiler for a new system you start with a compiler binary someone else gave you
And in theory you could have a C compiler that you could trace back all the way to the first one Ken Thompson wrote
But as I just showed you with i++ that doesn't tell the whole story
magic river
The default if you just run mvn is usually mvn clean package though, iirc
Because javac and maven are both a bit shit at incremental builds and Java builds usually don't take that long anyway
tropic flame
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdoor_(computing)#Compiler_backdoors
fun fact, the Java compiler interprets Unicode in comments instead of ignoring it like it would with everything else inside a comment
magic river
That makes sense
Scary but I get it
They do unicode unescaping before parsing so it doesn't see that as a comment
It's not parsing comments
tropic flame
yeah
\u0070\u0075\u0062\u006c\u0069\u0063\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0020
\u0063\u006c\u0061\u0073\u0073\u0020\u0055\u0067\u006c\u0079
\u007b\u0070\u0075\u0062\u006c\u0069\u0063\u0020\u0020\u0020
\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0073\u0074\u0061\u0074\u0069\u0063
\u0076\u006f\u0069\u0064\u0020\u006d\u0061\u0069\u006e\u0028
\u0053\u0074\u0072\u0069\u006e\u0067\u005b\u005d\u0020\u0020
\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0061\u0072\u0067\u0073\u0029\u007b
\u0053\u0079\u0073\u0074\u0065\u006d\u002e\u006f\u0075\u0074
\u002e\u0070\u0072\u0069\u006e\u0074\u006c\u006e\u0028\u0020
\u0022\u0048\u0065\u006c\u006c\u006f\u0020\u0077\u0022\u002b
\u0022\u006f\u0072\u006c\u0064\u0022\u0029\u003b\u007d\u007d
this turns into a Hello World program ๐
fun
unkempt drift
try it ๐
unkempt drift
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30727515/why-is-executing-java-code-in-comme...
yeah, intellij doesn't treat that \u000d as a newline in terms of syntax highlighting.
would be cool if it did
magic river
wtf, Gen Urobuchi is working on a RWBY anime
The VAs that dub RWBY for Japan are doing the anime version and the original cast is going to do the English dub
Also it's Shaft so I'm expecting lots of head tilts
marble lark
and then they compiled Java's Java compiler with the C compiler
Java's compiler is written in Java
the old javac written in C is still kept around but I doubt it's used anywhere
obtuse aurora
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=e0399e0b597f4c1f83eba92351e8555b
The server tps is very unstable, how can I solve this?
viral hornet
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=e0399e0b597f4c1f83eba92351e8555b
The server tps i...
Step 1: Click the FIX THIS and follow https://i.imgur.com/scyMxgV.png
Step 2: Runn timings again and paste/ask in #paper-help
But quick glance looks like the usual (entities) & also SuperiorWorld doing some funk with chunks
foggy silo
Camm ๐
vernal moth
stuff with LEDs
I build a backlight for my TV for example that reacts to the content on screen
smart mirrors are also cool
olive marlin
Can also install HomeAssistant and do home automation.
untold copper
e
olive marlin
You can use something like Aqara cube and make each side control other things. Or automate home "garden" with automatic plant watering and light cycles.
worn ember
I build a backlight for my TV for example that reacts to the content on screen
How did you get it to match colors? I tried it for my PC but it uses like 30% of my CPU if i take screenshots to send the data with
vernal moth
for pc just hdmi passthru
golden gust
biggest thing is using lower level capture stuff
vernal moth
for tv I abused the scart input which for some reason outputs the image if its not used as an input
golden gust
copying the entire screen framebuffer is slow, hence why stuff generally uses lower layer stuff for things like screen recording
vernal moth
I basically have a hdmi splitter, take that into an digital to analog converter and that into an usb grabber right into the rpi
for splitter you just gotta be careful it supports dhcp copyright bullshit
and with supports I mean basically cracks it, lmao
worn ember
Ah yeah that makes sense
vernal moth
hdcp
worn ember
I did all that stuff on the CPU. But using the GPU/HDMI for that makes more sense hah
vernal moth
not dhcp
worn ember
Gotta get that ip allocation working on HDMI 
golden gust
IP over HDMI is an important feature of the HDMI spec
ashen cliff
Good thing it's almost never used and mostly forgotten. ๐
worn ember
18inch speakers are big lol
ashen cliff
Nah bro. You just small.
golden gust
||if I wanna see 18 I just fold it in half||
worn ember
Minecraft plugins hah
Tbh that's literally the only time I still use Java
Cuz anything Gui related in Java is aids
Or you could make a console app
vernal moth
hangars new frontend has < 100 todos, woooo
guess I need yall for doing some testing next weekend
void void
worn ember
guess I need yall for doing some testing next weekend
I found 5 bugs testing another frontend in like 15 minutes 
you can count on me to break stuff
golden gust
am I the only person who'd be considered if DED showed up and nothing broke?
concerned*
brain, today, is nope
plucky sparrow
your brain is always nope
worn ember
Your brain broke too
Your bank account broke too
Who's really at the end of the short stick here cat
twin lagoon
@meager tusk IDRIZ!
meager tusk
<@!589898090174218243> IDRIZ!
BRO.
golden gust
idfk who decides when all that happens
I mean, afaik, it's always the 27th, idk who decided it to be then and there
In the UK, the date is linked to Easter, which is different each year as it is determined by the lunar calendar. The UK's Mother's Day always falls on the fourth Sunday during the period of Lent, when people typically give up things like certain foods or bad habits for the days leading up to Easter.
oh, so, cos we're the OG christian nation?
ashen cliff
OG.
vernal moth
you got sun?
Basically summer here
vernal moth
Yeah
Same here
It's like waaaay to warm for fucking march tho
20c yesterday
In March
Avg is 10c here for march normally
urban depot
grizzled walrus
Hi, Which version do you think has the best efficiency among the 1.16 1.17 1.18 versions? I'm thinking of opening a skyblock server I don't have a very powerful machine I have a dedicated server with a ryzen 7 3700x processor
worthy geode
that CPU is decent, not great but also not completely weak. 1.18 is the only supported version, so unless you are able to make your own bug- and exploit-fixes, 1.18
smoky cloud
Would 1.18 even be that slow if youโre just running Skyblock?
worthy geode
probably not, main issue with 1.18 compared to 1.17 is the increased size of the chunks and that won't be an issue with skyblock, where most of them are empty anyways
safe jackal
please, maybe someone know placeholderapi well and help me with one thing?
vernal moth
You could just ask a real question and the people could actually answer
safe jackal
okay, so this is a problem. Two }} near to each other. The papi plugin schem is something like this: %objective_score_{<obj-name>}%
and the holographicdisplays plugin schem is like this: {papi: nameofplaceholder}.
and I have two }} and it does not work
spare venture
i donโt think thatโs the format
safe jackal
it is. But is really hard to find it in HolographicDisplays documentation. Actually, it is not in documentation, I had to find it on their github issues
it is new format
safe jackal
I think it can't be solved
brave mountain
for easy editing GitHub files do you recommend GitHub Desktop?
spare venture
depends on what you're editing
golden gust
I mean, do what works for you
as somebody who feels competent with git, I find that many of the UI things just confuzzle me more than they help
magic river
lol, the project for making Fedora Silverblue look/work more like Ubuntu is called https://ublue.it/
golden gust
PMSL
ashen cliff
for easy editing GitHub files do you recommend GitHub Desktop?
Go to Github.
Click "." on your keyboard.
???
Done.
silver nexus
I go walk for an hour a day afterschool and I got pretty sunburnt, but I'm in Texas so its not that uncommon for March.
true canyon
Wear sunscreen.
vernal moth
Yeah am in cologne, Germany, lol
vernal moth
Wear sunscreen.
I didn't expect the sun to be that strong
silver nexus
Same here, but I did start taking an umbrella once I started noticing the sunburns.
foggy silo
it snowed today for me
worn crest
werent you france?
golden gust
met office over here was predicting snow somewhere, apparently some massive cold front is coming in
ashen cliff
Daily AuthMe reminder: https://posili.me/i/sGBPNVVR-2022-03-27_20-53-47.png
true canyon
Thank goodness for Mojang auth!
vernal moth
A small state in Germany had elections today, and it looks like their parliament will only have 3 (!!!) Parties, one of the Nazis (5.5%), wtf
Almost as bad as in the US
spare venture
๐ณ
vernal moth
The greens are apparently missing 23 votes to get thru the 5% barrier
The free market liberals are at 4.8%, the left crashed to 2%
15% votes for smaller parties
Thank God we have a 5% barrier! It's nessasary to protect our democracy!
Fucking hell, shit like that makes me really angry
The state has less inhabitants than my city, so the impact on the whole.country is limited, but still, this is why the 5% barrier is toxic
vernal moth
Well, they don't matter at all, that's not why am upset
You will have 5% idiots in any democracy, I can take that
If this preliminary result holds, 25+% are basically void
That's just not how a democracy should work
ashen cliff
At least your vote counts.
worn crest
A small state in Germany had elections today, and it looks like their parliament...
saarlandddd
tropic flame
but yeah we also have something here called electoral circles where until X amount of votes it's as if your vote did not count in that specific circle for a specific party
vernal moth
Well, yes, it's Saarland, but all jokes aside, this is a serious issue for our democracy
tropic flame
and it kind of depends on what party your region leans to
that's going to be the strongest one
vernal moth
but yeah we also have something here called electoral circles where until X amou...
Sounds like a slightly better version of the American "election system"
Do you at least have multiple parties?
tropic flame
yes we do
I'm probably not explaining it very well because it has nothing to be with the electoral college of the US
vernal moth
Because you know, a democracy with two parties is a joke
tropic flame
or at least i don't see it as the same, idk
vernal moth
What country again? I'll look into it tomorrow, sounds interesting
tropic flame
Portugal
vernal moth
Oh I wanna look at Portugal more anyways
The more I look at Portugal the more I like it tbh
Maybe this is finally a negative point ^^
tropic flame
as a local i could give you a few ones
like miserable salaries and high prices overall
but if you work remotely you might not feel it
vernal moth
Well, I wouldn't work for Portuguese companies
tropic flame
yeah
or our prime minister rising the gas prices on purpose because "we gotta be a green country!" while the average citizen can't even survive with just their minimum wage, let along worry about buying an electric vehicle
this was pre-ukrainian war btw
or the numerous cases of nepotism by the currently governing party
vernal moth
EVs aren't much more expensive that dinosaur piss cars tbh
After subventions it's a couple grand here in Germany
So I would approve of that, lol
By raising, do you mean more tax or just removal of subventions?
tropic flame
more tax
vernal moth
I see
Well, can still use that money to lower taxes on EVs and raise subventions
It's such progressive policies that go me interested in Portugal in the first place
tropic flame
i mean, it might be from where i come from but whenever someone's car breaks, they buy a new one second-hand
like
i don't see anyone searching for EVs at 1000-1500โฌ
they're much more expensive but that's usually the kind of money we got to spend in stuff like that
muted storm
Canada's election system is multi-partied as well (I think we have 4 in parliament at the moment? Might be 3). Though we do still need some electoral reforms because FPTP (First Pass the Post) isn't great.
vernal moth
Like, I don't even drive an EV myself
cunning raft
vernal moth
My excuse is that charing is a pain when you can't charge at home
ashen cliff
MFW still looking at that hybrid Volvo S60. ๐
tropic flame
my family's been riding a 90s Renault ever since my mom bought it
golden gust
some company was actually bringing about reasonable conversion kits
apparently they still got work to do but thus far have been approved by the french government for grants to make it cheaper
vernal moth
Meh
Like, they gonna be a dum mod thing, not as good as a real EV, but almost as expensive
golden gust
Long ways to go, but, there is some glimmer of hope that it will actually be affordable of a solution at some point
5k for a conversion
was the figure I saw touted
ashen cliff
5k isn't that bad, if you consider some engines are super expensive.
golden gust
which, blows, but, you know, vs the cost of a new EV, it's far from ideal but something which more people can get a loan for, especially if it's cheaper to drive by electricity, which, last I saw it was
tropic flame
oh btw houses here are too expensive and many rents are also too high if you're not looking into buying but i guess that's also happening everywhere else
golden gust
big fun is the concrete jungle
issue ofc is making parking where people can charge their cars up
(and then theres the whole grid issue)
ashen cliff
The grid issue isn't actually that big of an issue.
Just an argument on why to slow down adoption.
golden gust
We need to increase energy production on the grid by 2-3x
we need to get rid of fossil fuels
there is a "grid" issue
vernal moth
My dad's Nissan leaf did cost 22k (after gov incentive), a comparable dinosaur car would have cost 17k+, so like, stuff got cheaper
golden gust
some places are increasing renewables but only so by basically repalcing coal and nuclear
like, replacing coal generation capacity is great, but, we're gonna need more juice on the grid, and, we're not really heading that way
powercuts are seemingly becoming more common, etc
vernal moth
Those are separate issues tbh
tropic flame
My dad's Nissan leaf did cost 22k (after gov incentive), a comparable dinosaur c...
my mom is looking into replacing our 90s Renault with a 2000s car for like 1500โฌ max
that's why I say that's not the type of money we have and that the government is wrong for trying to push adoption without like... fixing the rest? as of now, when you buy gas, 60% or so of what you pay are taxes
vernal moth
EVs are the future, so grid stuff will be solved
tropic flame
everyone finds it ridiculous
vernal moth
my mom is looking into replacing our 90s Renault with a 2000s car for like 1500โฌ...
Yeah, that's the thing, you want to incentive new cars, not make the bottom even more miserable
Those EVs will eventually trickle down
golden gust
I fail to see when grid stuff will be solved if we keep going at the current rate, so we'll probs be under water by then
Issue is that cars which run of dinasaur squeezings last like 20 years
EVs are more measured on a hand
vernal moth
That's why we need to fix new cars now
ashen cliff
Didn't one country say that they will have new nuclear up in like 2023 or 2025?
golden gust
fix in what aspect?
vernal moth
Stop producing dinosaur cars
golden gust
not gonna fix the fact that EVs don't last as long without "large" works
ashen cliff
Those will kind of stay forever.
Probably just with biofuel instead of dinosaurs.
golden gust
replacing the big bulky expensive battery
vernal moth
Only thing on EVs is the batteries, but tech evolves on that
ashen cliff
It does, but have fun getting a new battery in like 10 years.
Rebuilding will be the way... and if we look at the USA... they might prevent that.
vernal moth
Details?
golden gust
So, magical "skateboard" type thing which has one wheel, powered by battery, ofc
unplugging the battery bricks the BMS
vernal moth
Oh I know what a one wheel is
Oh cool
Well, EU hopefully brings an end to those kinda shits
golden gust
(and then various other issues with ghosting and then lying to fedex and shipping unmarked lipos around)
ashen cliff
A lot of new BMS trashcans brick themselves because of "safety", if you cut power.
golden gust
apparently some company made a device to bypass some of that crap and now they're being sued
ashen cliff
I was repairing a LG G4. Tried to bypass the battery, you can't.
So I just tried to fake a battery to the BMS, worked once, bricked instantly after.
golden gust
because, you know, replacing a battery on a device is such a dangerous thing vs havin to ship it back to cali in a potentially dangerous state if shit goes sideways
oof
remember back in the days?
When you had phones which where thin
with a headphone jack
and waterproof
pepperridge farm remembers
ashen cliff
Good times.
Tho, no matter what the EU does, we aren't getting back the headphone jacks and replaceable batteries.
golden gust
I CAN DREAM HAROLD
ashen cliff
SO CAN I!
golden gust
actually, replacable batterys MIGHT become a requirement
tropic flame
i can find a phone up to 200โฌ with one
vestal jasper
My phone still has a headphone jack ๐
golden gust
just, depends on how deep they wanna define "replacable"
Josh
can I borrow your phone
ashen cliff
You can replace it, but you have to break the back of the phone. 
golden gust
I just wanna superglue the headphone jack
vestal jasper
I have wireless headphones go ahead
tropic flame
just don't buy the latest Super Galaxy Omega S29 Edge Plus
I feel like the more years go back, the less it makes sense to buy a flagship
the midrange has basically caught up
it made sense back in 2016
vestal jasper
The only game on my phone is 2048 tho
golden gust
"so, to replace the back glass of your device, you'll need
- replacement back glass
- adhesive
- A FREAKING LAZOR
tropic flame
like, the only argument you can make is the camera
glass crag
all the android devices kinda suck these days :/
ashen cliff
The Samsung Galaxy XCover Pro do be looking kinda nice, replaceable battery and nice specs.
But >Samsung.
tropic flame
i guess cameras still get improvements, although I'm not much of a photographer
but as for the rest of the hardware?
vestal jasper
It's nice how apple removes the headphone jack for space reasons and some random YouTuber fits one in there like it's nothing
tropic flame
your phone doesn't need more than 4GB ram
golden gust
most camera improvements these days I believe are in the software :/
TO be fair
that same guy also made a brand new iphone in china
ashen cliff
Can't live without 8GB of ram. Sorry bro.
spare venture
iโm gonna be honest i donโt care about losing the headphone jack. havenโt had wired earbuds/headphones in half a decade
golden gust
assuming I recall whom you're talking about
meager tusk
Can't live without 8GB of ram. Sorry bro.
Lol.
tropic flame
Can't live without 8GB of ram. Sorry bro.
do you run a Forge server in Termux?
meager tusk
Ok.
ashen cliff
I need that KVM WINDOWS XP MV!
vestal jasper
Yeah true he knows what he's doing to some extent but so should apple so?
Whatever resources that guy has, apple has in spades
meager tusk
No dad, please I need the second graphics card for my VM setup, okay.
tropic flame
iโm gonna be honest i donโt care about losing the headphone jack. havenโt had wi...
I can't really do that switch + i often use my phone earbuds on PC too
my pc doesn't really have bluetooth
but i can't do the switch because I like not having to charge them
vestal jasper
Bluetooth dongles are like $5
tropic flame
cool so ditch wired and buy a dongle
silver nexus
I use wireless for when I'm at school or in public, but wired for PC.
tropic flame
got it
vestal jasper
Yes perfect solution
little frost
hope the pixel a models keep having the headphone jack because they seem to have put it back for those ones
true canyon
I've seen rumors suggesting it goes away with the 6a ๐ญ
little frost
๐ฟ
true canyon
3a currently, waiting on 6a for next upgrade. Hoping I'm wrong. It will ruin my car listening otherwise.
little frost
same
vernal moth
I don't even miss wires
I never understood birthdays
Especially nowadays, where people can't even make gifts
What do you gift somebody who has everything he wants or enough cash to buy it otherwise?
So my friends gift me symbolic stuff, which, well, I do value, but I don't need symbols for that
topaz mortar
Bring alcohol and food.
worn crest
Or fuel. I never get invited to I don't have that problems
true canyon
I don't even miss wires
I hope my car lasts another few years, and it doesn't have bluetooth support. ๐ฆ
vernal moth
Meh, can easily fix that
A friend of mine has a shit car with cassettes, Amazon, 10 bucks, car has Bluetooth now ^^
ashen cliff
You can just get the little Bluetooth to AUX things, the cassettes or even the horrible FM transmitter.
native wolf
I ain't waiting for my headphones to charge when I want to listen to something, wired ftw
vernal moth
My headphones charge in like 15 min
ashen cliff
But, will they stop your phone from falling out of your hand/pocket?
vernal moth
Wat
true canyon
You can just get the little Bluetooth to AUX things, the cassettes or even the h...
Two phones ago my headphone jack died, and I tried these out. Went through two well-reviewed ones that both were sluggish to start (so now I'm waiting an extra 30 seconds from car turned on to actually moving if I want to listen to music) and would sometimes disconnect. Are there any good ones from known brands these days? When I looked years ago it was all sketchy.
vernal moth
Oh yes they all sketchy as heck
worthy geode
for aux or casette?
worthy geode
in some cars you sadly can't change the radio
mine is too old to have bluetooth but too new to have a removable radio
native wolf
pov: you live in Balkon and someone stole the radio from your car
rancid void
In a MySQL table with user punishments (separate table for other user data), should the punishment id or user id be the primary key?
lilac moon
I would say punishment ID
probably should be a unique and sequential punishment id
I think
rancid void
I figured that out after a few minutes. Planning/designing a DB schema half asleep at 0:35 probably isn't the best idea
arctic saddle
Hi I have a problem with my network (full paper/waterfall)
lilac moon
I figured that out after a few minutes. Planning/designing a DB schema half asle...
True
worn ember
In a MySQL table with user punishments (separate table for other user data), sho...
punishment and user id should be unique combined since you can have multiple punishments on the same user ID
actually disregard that 
you store it in the punishment table so the punishment id will always be unique
maybe giving advice at 1:20am isn't the best idea either
worn ember
yes
unless you have predefined punishments you dont need to worry about what i said
and even then you'd need a many to many relation anyway
databases are so much fun /s
rancid void
You're right, I'll just use a few json files /s
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worn ember
vestal jasper
What do you gift somebody who has everything he wants or enough cash to buy it o...
A meal and some company? Some drinks?
The focus isn't on the presents. That but a part of it.
Unless you're a kid ig then that's the only part you care about
Celebrate and enjoy the occasion regardless how you do so
warm anchor
Gift them Minecraft java edition
brave mountain
Something unique, that money no can buy.
warm anchor
So your love 
ashen cliff
Cat located: https://posili.me/i/BPxdSMvk-2022-03-28_03-28-51.png
unkempt drift
Couldnโt care less about the Oscars but if the presenters keep getting smacked by people in the audience, I may just watch.
Honestly, if it wasnโt for smith repeating himself while the entire room had stopped laughing, I wouldโve thought it was fake.
magic river
Yeah that was... interesting
Just had someone telling me all about it and asking if I'd seen it on Twitter or not
He brings me things to see if they're fake or not, he thought this might have been fake or scripted but... nope
silver nexus
Full clip https://twitter.com/moreoffilms/status/1508277114398978048?s=21&t=5Vm-...
I don't blame him, the joke wasn't appropriate, however I think it could've been handled better but it was an understandable reaction.
unkempt drift
will was laughing at the joke, at least that's what the video showed
then the camera went back to chris and then will walked up
silver nexus
i assume will was fake laughing or laughing out of shock/nervousness
unkempt drift
it didnt look like that at all
his wife was not laughing, and so I suspect he stopped when he saw her
foggy veldt
I think he was laughing at the previous joke
unkempt drift
but the video doesnt show that
foggy veldt
Iโm pretty sure it was just a drunk moment but the internet wonโt let him live this down
silver nexus
yeah its never going away
foggy veldt
Discord wonโt upload images so I guess I have to link the tweet https://twitter.com/lorrakon/status/1508270234062393345
If this is real why was the rock smoldering lol
unkempt drift
short yarrow
so schemas will inevitably change over time. are there rules to follow changes? or a good blog or post where i can learn about schema changes. changing your schema willy nilly can have really big consequences right?
spare venture
i mean it was the oscars, not a roast of jada smiths medical conditions
dudes been through some weird stuff with his wife and i wouldnโt appreciate someone making fun of my wife like that either
proud lance
It cant be scripted, Will smith said fuck on live tv
he had to accept an award after, god thats so awkward
meager tusk
idk but it was one weak sucker punch lol
proud lance
well he slapped him
proud lance
nah slap
spare venture
it looked like a slap, sounded like one, and chris even said he smacked him
proud lance
you dont usually palm your fist after hitting someone
tomorrow gonna be interesting if hes gonna be charged with assault
Twitter
spare venture
ya idk if chris is gonna press charges
meager tusk
doubt, chris felt more sad than angry looked to me lol
proud lance
after the hit?
spare venture
yea he didnโt look mad at all
proud lance
or like later
spare venture
o
proud lance
cause I mean its a public show, and you are a celebrity
youre not gonna hulk out on will smith during it
man was still processing what happened and couldn't get the words out after
spare venture
also it was just a slap
proud lance
I mean if you normally get slapped its whatever, but celebrities getting slapped its like lawyers abound
tbh smith should just apologize for slapping and chris rock should probably just admit it was a joke in bad taste
and move on
unkempt drift
i assume will was fake laughing or laughing out of shock/nervousness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjEoDypUD8 I dont think he was faking it, it looked real, but then again, he is an actor so.
but you can very clearly see the reaction of his wife
start at 0:23 to see his reaction, or just watch from the beginning, its short
silver nexus
I thought I could see him mouth โwowโ or something like that
His wife was definitely not happy with the joke
unkempt drift
yeah that part is clear, but I think will thought it was funny
silver nexus
He may not have gotten the reference at first either
vernal moth
Wait, is smith still relevant?
All his last movies sucked
Oh, 6 awards to dune, that's nice
Back to sleep
wet storm
๐ด
median wing
worn ember
worn crest
That's a piece of meme
warm anchor
@worn ember 
worn ember
<@!208641151509463051> <:PepeLa:798951090539987004>
lmfao how are people this stupid
tropic flame
tbh smith should just apologize for slapping and chris rock should probably just...
i agree, he should apologize, if it was Tupac he'd shoot Chris Rock
ok I'm just being an asshole on purpose
but being serious now, he shouldn't have gone up on stage to do it but i don't blame him for having no reason for such... but it was still a fuckup in worldwide TV
idk
tropic flame
<@!208641151509463051> <:PepeLa:798951090539987004>
good
i love it
people getting banned for their fancy shmancy clients
wet storm
Damn, lotta hard words, reading and trying to use these abstractions in java from this article (profunctor optics: modular data accessors) in DFU reference is kinda hard, but that's fine that I even understand it...
lilac moon
all those colons has that looking like ++
vernal moth
that stuff is all really dum
wet storm
I started understand haskell syntax from these articles, because they explain abstractions really clear, (but still hard...) and also this syntax has many similarities with some scala features
vernal moth
DFU reads like a phd thesis
topaz mortar
<@!208641151509463051> <:PepeLa:798951090539987004>
That's the reason why Mojang warns you from 1.16.5 onwards when initially clicking Multiplayer button in main menu. ๐คก
next frost
not surprising that something that inspired scala has similarities with scala
lilac moon
I will learn Haskell someday
wet storm
that stuff is all really dum
no u It is really interesting stuff from the syntax and clean code point of view, I think that it all are the future of building APIs with minimal possibility of breaking changes, and also some unreally flexible libraries. I am a fan of tagless final pattern which I often use in Scala, originally it was created for making DSLs and eDSLs without breaking changes,(This pattern doesn't really possible in java, I tried to do it in java and there was several problems...) and imagine combine these approaches, damn...
Conclusion: dfu is thing from the future
And imagine using some possabilities of, for example, profunctor optics to perform data combined accessing in some internal things from the API, like you have Reference<> in io.papermc.paper.registry, but with better support for further versions. run away, idk what I am saying lol
golden gust
as I've said many times before, DFU is what happens when you give a CS student free access towards the entire library and tell them to do something like "provide me a way to upgrade data through a chain of migrations"
worn crest
"what are the answers?"
Find out by urself
wet storm
as I've said many times before, DFU is what happens when you give a CS student f...
Yeah, I agree with you, but I think understanding of such things makes code in usual OOP better
golden gust
I mean, the biggest thing that it offers is the fact that it itself doesn't care about the underlying data format and just basically creates a chain of ops
the downfall is is that it doesn't really solve anything new that wasn't already solved
they just over-engineered data upgrades, and since they did that, every single update has had data issues
wet storm
What I really don't understand is why they didn't use some already existing libraries providing basic functional things in java, they created their own functional package... like wtf
Or, as you said, don't over-engineer it and make everything simple...
wet storm
Btw, who's actually fry? I know that he was forge developer, but now he is mojang employee?
vernal moth
mmh, no phd on his linked in
fry wrote the model stuff for forge iirc and has been working for mojang since 2017
wet storm
Wtf is hapenning, I wanna spring
golden gust
viral hornet
Wtf is hapenning, I wanna spring
JEALOUS
wet storm
2) write name in snow
3) eat yellow snow
vernal moth
@worn crest wat ya wanna do in your freistunde?
worn crest
<@!419233222803718145> wat ya wanna do in your freistunde?
._. sun is making my screen not so good readable
Dunno sitting on the stairs
turbid lotus
english be like:
i=-1 yrol&<3mc latest.v.
novel horizon
Here it is like 20C at day, 2C at night.. and in 4 days it should be like -5C to 6C and snow/rain
vernal moth
same
am in a bad mood today, but I just found out that the clocks were changed yesterday, so I get to blame my mood on that, right? RIGHT!?
novel horizon
tropic flame
yes
honestly we should just probably stuck our timezones on UTC+XX:30 where XX is whatever your winter timezone is
so instead of advancing one hour, both winter and summer get 30 minutes each
evenly distributed
like most things should be
vernal moth
wet storm
I like those snow flying things, but it is very ๐ฅถ
novel horizon
Yeah, it is a bit annoying. Some people have gardens and it blooms a bit, grows and then -5C
worn crest
I like those snow flying things, but it is very ๐ฅถ
We don't know them in germany
topaz mortar
We don't know them in germany
You don't know Schneeverwehungen?
stuck lynx
Lmao why do so many people here share servers with me?
void void
Because you have a great taste in tower defense games :P
stuck lynx
lul
marble lark
am in a bad mood today, but I just found out that the clocks were changed yester...
why are you lately always in a bad mood
lmao
marble lark
lol noah we share 27 servers
how..?
golden gust
He's german
It's just, their time of the year, or something
could be worse, theres this one year where it all riled up over the course of the year and they decided to destress with a holiday abroad
wet storm
Lmao why do so many people here share servers with me?
๐
vernal moth
why are you lately always in a bad mood
am really not, lol
drifting path
Does the MC client support seeing 500 players moving?
worn crest
You don't know Schneeverwehungen?
No haha too warm for snow in the winter
ashen cliff
Does the MC client support seeing 500 players moving?
Yes and no.
void void
It entirely depends on the hardware
drifting path
Will it look laggy
ashen cliff
If you show them everything, without optimizations, no.
If you optimize it to hell, yes.
ashen cliff
Don't send all of the movement stuff to the client, just some of them, for example.
I mean, server sided.
vernal moth
movement packets at scale are insane amounts of traffic
drifting path
Is that what paper does?
vernal moth
no
void void
movement packets at scale are insane amounts of traffic
^ the client can't keep up if you send too many packets at once, it'll start running behind while everything still appears normal for the user (while in reality it's getting further and further behind)
twin lagoon
Does the MC client support seeing 500 players moving?
@quasi valley does it
spare venture
500 players on paper in one room is scary
twin lagoon
my favourite mrbeast worker x
void void
^ the client can't keep up if you send too many packets at once, it'll start run...
^ Kenny and egg ran into that fun issue when making mrbeast's playeremulator plugin iirc
drifting path
^ the client can't keep up if you send too many packets at once, it'll start run...
What would I do instead?
I'm looking for dev advice, I can't miss this function and it can't be laggy, so if anyone have any idea or a plot where I can start digging
void void
You send less movement packets
The client interpolates them seemlessly if the delay is up to four (I think) ticks
drifting path
So from 1 to 4 ticks?
The player would be running out of date in relation to the positions of players but it wouldn't lag
sounds like a solution
ashen cliff
4 ticks isn't a lot... and I assume you aren't using it for PVP.
vernal moth
pretty sure kenny and team interpolate movement
drifting path
4 ticks isn't a lot... and I assume you aren't using it for PVP.
no
I already got into an agreement to not sync PVP, otherwise it would be I guess way more complicated(already tried to replicate knockback)
void void
pretty sure kenny and team interpolate movement
I think they leave that up to the client
egg used to have a vod where he explained how the system worked, he unfortunately privated it though
twin lagoon
drifting path
pretty sure kenny and team interpolate movement
what do you mean by this
void void
Instead of sending something ten times, you send it less often and let it figure out the positions in between
vernal moth
why don't you just try it and see what happens?
drifting path
I wish I read that article of that person explaining it
vernal moth
if you are serious about developing something like this, you need a testing framework with bots anyways, so just start and see what happens if a client observes 500 clients walking around, lol
you can't expect people to hold your hand, when technology like this is literally worth 5-6 figures
drifting path
Didn't know it was worth that much
vernal moth
well, it will take a skilled engineer quite some time to develop a system that scales beyond a couple hundred players on one world
and engineering time is quite expensive
gilded cedar
How do you go about reading the ProtocolLib docs with this bug? https://github.com/dmulloy2/ProtocolLib/issues/1334
vernal moth
haha, back in my days, javadocs didn't even have a search bar
ashen cliff
Or they didn't but it never worked.
spare venture
kenny and egg were paid 6 figures for that? ๐ค
lavish compass
if you are serious about developing something like this, you need a testing fram...
oh boy 
can confirm that it's painful
potent otter
how do i make my friend join to my server?
worn crest
how do i make my friend join to my server?
So you have it localhost and not on a server?
If Server: give them the IP address and port
potent pulsar
How to install forge in a paper server
golden gust
you... don't...
worn crest
A software in a software 
potent pulsar
Just ask if it can be done
worn ember
nope
golden gust
paper doesn't support forge
there are various "hybrid" forks which are generally unsupported and asking for more issues than they solve
worn ember
you can take a look at sponge forge if you want plugins but generally speaking there are mods that replace plugins basically
ftbutils etc
potent otter
So you have it localhost and not on a server?
i have localhost
i can join to the server
but my friend cant
no further information
potent otter
fallen oracle
That's an internal IP.
twin lagoon
leave server-ip empty
timber sentinel
This is not paper-help and you're also using offline mode
brave mountain
Minecraft server doesn't assign an ip itself
spare venture
how do you install windows on linux
fallen oracle
Wine
twin lagoon
Beer
brave mountain
VM
spare venture
what kind of beer
brave mountain
Corona
potent otter
what
spare venture
oh no
worn crest
This is not paper-help and you're also using offline mode
everybody which uses bungee, waterfall or velocity has is backend server offline
brave mountain
Not everyone
twin lagoon
he doesn't know how to make a player join from outside of his network and you're assuming he uses a proxy
brave mountain
And the proxy can be offline
brave mountain
Do you know about networking and routers?
spare venture
also i would be careful about posting logs with IPs in them. obviously in this case itโs your local IP, but still
brave mountain
Have you tried dual boot?
brave mountain
Kicked?
timber sentinel
everybody which uses bungee, waterfall or velocity has is backend server offline
v3 uuid
golden gust
I sometimes forget that this place has none adults
You'll get it when you're older, dw
fallen oracle
For the record I found it funny.
golden gust
Thanks โค๏ธ
worn crest
I haven't had girlfriend
if you have a server, youre fine. life goal reached
worn crest
i like debian
meager tusk
What is this?
neon bramble
Based Configurate example
neon bramble
virgin non-educated paper getting rid of it
wet storm
Based Configurate example
What is this example?
neon bramble
potent otter
That's an internal IP.
so what ip i need to do
thorny flickerBOT
PaperMC
13 Channel Categories
73 Text Channels
6 Voice Channels
34 Roles
90/250 static emojis
16/250 animated emojis
โฏ Members: 30,825/500,000
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โฏ Nitro Boost:
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void void
most of them are obscure references too
void void
Like, some of these names make sense
and then there's stuff like black-market and nicodemus
cosmic raft
@void void
dharma-initiative: LOST
batcave: Batman
hydra: Marvel
warp-9: Star Trek
section-31: Star Trek
nicodemus: Smallville
leviosa: Harry Potter
void void
I get where most of the references are from
I just don't see how some of these relate to paper
cosmic raft
The names are "random", to obscure what channels are to random people
Since Discord's API exposes channel names and topics to the general public :)
void void
eh, fair
worn ember
Full transparency Kash
cosmic raft
:p
brave mountain
I want the nsa
brave mountain
so what ip i need to do
Learn basic networking
lament patio
Firefox is just heavy in general in my experience
pastel reef
Then I'm not surprised that it's putting my potato to its knees.
Also, how is it possible, that a 13 year old Mac that never had a screen replacement supports 120Hz?
lavish compass
@warm anchor 
warm anchor
@lavish compass
still sorrel
left swift
gfdi I've seen this damn picture 50 times now
vernal moth
Hey, at least they stopped sending the full server list
cosmic raft
because they are dumb
void void
discord and security? they don't really come together
e2e encryption is something we probably won't see
left swift
why would it matter if people knew the name of a channel they cant see the contents though?
cosmic raft
because of the channel's purpose. if I had a channel called "plans to take over the world", I wouldn't want everyone and their aunt to be able to see that
left swift
sounds specific kash
vernal moth
What's the point of e2e encrypting discord messages, lol
vernal moth
A discord build is public pretty much
void void
What's the point of e2e encrypting discord messages, lol
what if i wanted to talk porn in my dms with someone? wouldn't you also want e2e encryption?
left swift
lol
void void
or its not porn, its something i dont want discord to know what it is
left swift
then dont use discord
vernal moth
Then don't use discord
It's not the focus of this platform, investing into that would be a waste of time
daring laurel
https://gyazo.com/d3c5044f2c14ca95f5d7374ae905e84b
are these projects that will be merged into paper at some point?
left swift
I cant wait for the papermc bugs bunny update
void void
another problem with discord ; you can't customize it
well you can but you risk your account getting banned
vernal moth
That will change most likely with the new EU laws
void void
what new EU law
vernal moth
Digital pact
Digital services act and digital markets act
Digital markets act is mostly finalized and will soon go to vote in parliament
void void
and they're about?
vernal moth
It got some juicy stuff, will force big platforms to allow 3rd party clients got example
But there's way more juicy stuff in it
Force apple to allow side loading
void void
It got some juicy stuff, will force big platforms to allow 3rd party clients got...
๐ฎ
void void
Force apple to allow side loading
wdym
heady solstice
Force apple to allow side loading
oh boy
void void
also weren't there rumors about standardizing ports
so apple lightning (or what was it called) no more
i think this got scrapped
yes in eu
exactly
thing was about reducing waste
heady solstice
I like lightning more tbh
void void
I like lightning more tbh
what advantage does it give you? doesn't support fully supercharging, only works with apple devices are 2 cons i can come up with right off the bat
you can. at the end of the day it's copper and i had cases where it was all dirty and didn't charge
not only the male port, but also the female port
void void
pervert alert
heady solstice
Im not sure if the supercharging has something to do with the cable or not, or just what the phone receives, not into it so idk a bit
vernal moth
Yeah the standardizion on type c will come too
Not just for phones but all kinda stuff
heady solstice
Mac already use it for charging and ports iirc
void void
Im not sure if the supercharging has something to do with the cable or not, or j...
each cable and each port has a maximum delivery and consumption. for example you can't do 220V AC on a wire with a diameter of about 0.5 cm
chargers work with 5V DC which is much lower, however it is proven that you can charge lithium-ion batteries with a much higher voltage and current, hence higher power and faster charging
@vernal moth i didn't understand about the part "force apple to allow side loading" could you explain more
vague lagoon
other payment providers in app store probably?
void void
about a year ago a option to pay with sms was added ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
vernal moth
other payment providers in app store probably?
That too
But side loading means allowing apps from outside the app store
Also that bill will force Whatsapp, Facebook messenger and iMessage and stuff to open up and allow interoperability
void void
bill?
vague lagoon
law/policy/whatever
vernal moth
Just read about it yourself, the Wikipedia article is pretty good last I checked
charred sleet
So im reading this todo with VUSA vs VUAG, both etfs that track the S&P 500.
so like what does it mean that it invests dividends automatically? according to some other sites VUAG has never paid a dividend
vernal moth
This really isn't the best place for financial advise
left swift
invest in bofa
rocky scroll
Hey there, what 1TB SSD do you recommend to replace a HDD, Im looking for a price around $100
Feel free to ping me!
rocky scroll
I have seen a few
rocky scroll
WD Green, Adata, Crucial
left swift
.g samsung evo 860 500gb
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-860-evo-2-5--sata-iii-500gb-mz-76e500b-am/
charred sleet
its not unheard of
rocky scroll
WD blue is around that too
warm anchor
that's external the google found
left swift
well get a cheap ssd you should make backups frequently
warm anchor
ADATA then I saw a deal on US amazon
not sure if hes from US
would be over 100 after tax though
rocky scroll
Can buy from us
rocky scroll
That look fancy but sadly I need it in SATA :(
warm anchor
may not even be worth it if you are looking for that sweet speed unless you are using a spinning drive rn
golden gust
honestly, I got a cheap SSD for my laptop and old desktop
I got rid of the desktop but the SSD in the laptop is still choochin away fine even like, 7 years later?
warm anchor
they last long really for regular use
rocky scroll
may not even be worth it if you are looking for that sweet speed unless you are ...
Yeah, rn I have a hdd, kind started corrupting, so I want to change it to a SSD, but it's a laptop so I need it on SATA
rocky scroll
I got rid of the desktop but the SSD in the laptop is still choochin away fine e...
Which one if I can ask
warm anchor
any cheap deal will be fine then in your case @rocky scroll
they are really conisdered not the newest shit anymore so should be pretty easy to find cheap deal.
rocky scroll
Yeah, I would love a m.2 or nvme but yeah I need to replace it
Any specific brand do you recommend? The WD Green looks great but I have read that it does have some kind of energy saving and idk how much can impact to read data for IJ and games
topaz mortar
Any specific brand do you recommend? The WD Green looks great but I have read th...
WD Black is the one you likely want.
RED -> NAS
GREEN -> Energy saver but slower
BLACK -> High performance special for Gamers
BLUE -> Creators with high capacity
PURPLE -> Video observations
GOLD -> enterprise
ashen cliff
Do note that some of those RED drives are straight up trash.
And that some of the black 7200 RPM drives are actually 5400 RPM.
rocky scroll
But black price is way over the top just for minimal benefits as I read, probably wrong, blue is kinda the same right?
ashen cliff
Blue should be fine... but just make it's not a controversial drive model.
rocky scroll
Oh no, what is that
ashen cliff
Where the sticker doesn't reflect the actual product.
rocky scroll
I may be overthinking this and spiraling down lmao
warm anchor
oh the rabbit hole is deep on drive selections
ashen cliff
Just get a HGST drive, since they haven't nuked the marketing there yet.
pastel reef
Will my computer complain if I try to give Minecraft more RAM than the computer physically has?
warm anchor
and all major harddrive company take terms to be the shittest one and they rotate every few years
warm anchor
need more ram
rocky scroll
Just get a HGST drive, since they haven't nuked the marketing there yet.
Never heard of them
worthy geode
you should use the 12 GB+ flags for 122 TB of RAM. everything else looks good
rocky scroll
Oh, it's from Hitachi, nice
worn crest
Maybe.
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=6b48586fbbdd48e585ca0ebb07c59dd0#plugins
ViaWarn
pastel reef
need more ram
Well I have an old MacBook that has 3 GB of fast RAM and 2 GB of slow RAM but Ubuntu crashes when I use more than 3 GB but Fedora doesn't mind.
ashen cliff
ViaWarn <:kekw:674093681963302933>
Legit. Made it in 5 minutes, because someone... was using 50 if else's in another unnamed plugin...
worn crest
Legit. Made it in 5 minutes, because someone... was using 50 if else's in anothe...
wat
ashen cliff
Well, used to be: https://github.com/x9nico/ViaCheckConnection
But it's gone now.
https://github.com/IllusionTheDev/ViaCheckConnection/commit/8b2e53c56dd67fff92311a95eb4f0d158307ca85
red timber
https://github.com/IllusionTheDev/ViaCheckConnection/commit/8b2e53c56dd67fff9231...
bro...
i don't miss minecraft
ashen cliff
Same.
left swift
viapokimane
ashen cliff
ViaWhoAsked?
pastel reef
ViaWat
worn crest
Well, used to be: https://github.com/x9nico/ViaCheckConnection
Doesn't via send it normally on login? ๐ค
potent wedge
what is hangar