ah yes
#general
still sorrel
docker completely broken
nginx container refuses to build
what a day
completely rewrote the docker config
red timber
how lol
still sorrel
oh god a random guy who I have no servers in common with sent me a friend request and is now DMing me
thorny totem
turn your DMs off?^^ Only accept friends who you trust ;p
void void
Thats how the spam bots work nowadays
They scrape the member list first and then leave the server
vernal moth
5 bucks that friend made a game and wants you to playtest it
still sorrel
he isnt a software developer
he is literally just small talking
I dont even know the guy
I think he wants me to teach him C
I dont even know C
asid;llfbasldibyfasoldbf
--- Expected
+++ Actual
@@ @@
"itemCount": 1,
"items": [
{
- "createdAt": "2020-01-01T00:00:00+00:00",
+ "createdAt": "2020-01-01T00:00:00+01:00",
tests are failing on timezones in dates
glass crag
The worst
golden gust
Yea, that bastard on git
user.name
like, fuck that guy!
(I should said git config --get user.name đ
vernal moth
lmao so fitbit is recalling the ionic, a smart watch I used years ago, so they want me to verify stuff and will just paypal me money
and I have to swear that I will stop using it and dispose of it
rare python
I mean there is nothing preventing you from just not stopping using it 
vernal moth
I stopped using it years ago
they stopped producing it in 2020, I brought mine way before that
apparently its 300USD?!!!
lmao thanks fitbit
plus 40% off
wtf
After registering, youâll receive a discount code for 40% off on up to 5 select Fitbit devices, as well as complimentary bands for purchased devices and other perks.
Weâll permanently disable device syncing within 7 days. Youâll receive an email confirmation after we disable device syncing. Youâll receive your refund in 3-6 weeks.
ok guess ill have to wait
void void
I mean there is nothing preventing you from just not stopping using it <:kekw:67...
They disable the sync, that's a bit of an inconvenience ig
vernal moth
yeah its kinda useless without a phone
yeah I brought it like 4 years ago, to get 300 usd back, which most likely is more than I paid for it, seems like a fair deal đ
plucky sparrow
It works for me
vernal moth
guess the bundle hugged the site to death
silk oar
hey, i wanted to know if forks like pufferfish etc are really interesting in 1.18.2 or if paper already does the job correctly?
worn crest
hey, i wanted to know if forks like pufferfish etc are really interesting in 1.1...
Wdym? Ask the fork if they want to upgrade. Paper 1.18.2 runs like 1.18.1, good.
radiant oriole
Pufferfish and Purpur are both updated to 1.18.2 like paper. But youâre asking in the wrong discord.
silk oar
just asking if in terms of performance there is really a difference
radiant oriole
Between 1.18.1 and 1.18.2? Not really.
silk oar
not between 1.18.1 and 1.18.2 but between paper and forks like pufferfish
worn crest
Not more since the tuinity merge
silk oar
ok, thanks for your answer
radiant oriole
Pufferfish is ~30-40% faster than paper but not everybody should use it
You get better support here
real saddle
sus
worn crest
Pufferfish is ~30-40% faster than paper but not everybody should use it
I doubt it
radiant oriole
Iâve benchmarked it lol, youâre welcome to run your own benchmarks.
worn crest
30-40% faster mspt?
radiant oriole
Yes
ashen cliff
Depends on how you benchmarked it...
radiant oriole
On real servers with real players 
ashen cliff
Not really a benchmark then.
You need a controlled environment.
What, if the player with the big redstone farm was offline when you switched platforms?
radiant oriole
Was taken over the course of several hours and that number is also confirmed by bot benchmarks
ashen cliff
Do share bot benchmarks.
radiant oriole
Itâs about as realistic of a benchmark you can get, youâre welcome to demonstrate your own benchmarks and refute that number if youâd like
radiant oriole
Do share bot benchmarks.
Am on a trip for the next 3-7 days so I donât have the data readily available
ashen cliff
Ah. So they classic, I didn't save the data anywhere.
You know... we usually take pictures to at least brag about stuff, with some evidence.
radiant oriole
No, I just donât have easy access to my machine and Iâm not going to bend over backwards to pull benchmarks off it
ashen cliff
As you wish.
still sorrel
"echarts": "4.8.0",
"jsonwebtoken": "8.5.1",
"leaflet": "1.6.0",
"portal-vue": "2.1.7",
"postcss-rtl": "1.7.3",
"prismjs": "1.19.0",
"qrcode.vue": "1.7.0",
"swiper": "5.4.5",
"uuid": "8.3.2",
ok who put the dependencies on hard coded version constraints
spare venture
kevin is one of the (or the only) fork developers that actually benchmarks his stuff though
golden gust
why tf would you use hardcoded
like
why not live a little?
Let somebody push a US flag to your deployment cos they decided to flip the table in a bitchfit on their way out
vernal moth
thats not what that is cat
thats why you have a package-lock or something
hard coded version constraints do not protect you against people taking over packages
only package-lock and installing from package-lock does
golden gust
I mean, I guess, i see people allergic to package lock files too
But, I mean, hard coded versions would protect you against that unless the repo was stupid
vernal moth
npm install does funny stuff cat
golden gust
so
what you're telling me is
that npm is even worse than I imagined?
bleh, my brain just feels all like, fuzzy, today
prime pawn
Someone give me some kind of motivational quote to keep pushing onwards plz :c
ashen cliff
kevin is one of the (or the only) fork developers that actually benchmarks his s...
That's nice. But I expect at least some kind of benchmark result and the test scenario.
It's not that hard to just make a benchmark favor a small improvement you made.
On the other hand: https://youtu.be/TgmTsa3rFU0?t=874
radiant oriole
That's nice. But I expect at least some kind of benchmark result and the test sc...
Scenario was to load up eternityâs optimized configs, load 250 bots, spread them out, and wait 5-10 minutes for TPS to stabilize, then look at median tick time. Then switch to pufferfish and repeat the test, then switch back to paper and confirm that the paper numbers still match. Pufferfish came out 30% ahead in that benchmark which approximately lines up with the 30-40% I see real servers getting (pufferfish is optimized for the real world, not for artificial benchmarks but it still does well in artificial benchmarks).
Again I donât have the numbers on hand to prove it but if youâre willing to accept a hand wave âtrust meâ, âŚ
ashen cliff
That's good enough for me.
radiant oriole
The reason I re-run the test on paper is because Iâve had weird things happen before where itâll be running poorly on paper (worse than it should), and after a reboot and with the exact same environment it runs better. So I just confirm that the numbers match up and I wasnât getting an unusually bad result
twin lagoon
KRUSIC!
ashen cliff
The reason I re-run the test on paper is because Iâve had weird things happen be...
Understandable.
Daily reminder that we still need a universal benchmark plugin/setup for MC.
vernal moth
Understandable.
Daily reminder that we still need a universal benchmark plugin/...
be the change you wanna see in the world, lol
ashen cliff
be the change you wanna see in the world, lol
I'm not asking to get killed in my sleep yet you know.
_Have at least 2 people trying to stab me for the ZGC stuff. _ đ
spare venture
they approved my application even though i never sent them a pay stub
warm anchor
Depends on where you live, Fargo isnt the only choice and I'd avoid them if possible
golden gust
I mean
that's sketch
over here in the UK we had companies giving out loans that they knew people couldn't afford as then they'd be stuck in a debt cycle
my birther giver was in such a cycle
radiant oriole
What do you mean? Signing up clients for accounts without their knowledge and then including those in your âactive accountsâ numbers is a perfectly sane and acceptable business practice.
radiant oriole
over here in the UK we had companies giving out loans that they knew people coul...
Yes the US did that in 2008 
golden gust
Like, multi year loans, everytime she got close to paying one off they'd offer her a better deal, which she'd stupidly take and we'd spend nice for a week or two, e.g. new game consoles, ordering take out all the time, etc
then the daily cycle would appear back into focus where most of the time by the end of the week the cupboards where pratically empty, and a loaf of bread was the best investment we could afford
spare venture
Depends on where you live, Fargo isnt the only choice and I'd avoid them if poss...
they have a 2% unlimited cash back credit card
warm anchor
they have a 2% unlimited cash back credit card
What I do is I have around 5 different card and I only use the one that gives me 5% or travel points.
you can for sure get better deal lol
spare venture
2% is the highest unlimited cash back card for daily spending
i use a 5% one for gas, a 5% one for groceries, and a 5% one for travel
previously i only had a 1.5% one for daily spending
spare venture
thereâs only 2 other 2% cards, one is a paypal credit card that forces you to redeem it to your paypal account first, and the other was citi double cash, but that one had no sign up bonus which was lame
all the other ones have specific stuff that makes it terrible
warm anchor
I usually just throw them to my amazon card nowaday 
spare venture
iâm trying to open a new card every year in order to continue building my credit, and taking advantage of rewards as much as possible
spare venture
the hell you spending so much on amazon for
warm anchor
100% of my gorcery + monthly subscriptions of all general goods
I have them deliver to me ever since covid happened
spare venture
is that 5% back?
warm anchor
yeah
This card also weave foreign transaction fee as well
this is Chase bank VISA version
vernal moth
I will never understand america and their credit cards
I would never even consider giving amazon that kinda power
warm anchor
We get "rewards" for using it
it's baiscally sharing the profit the bank got from using the network (in which they charge the shops for)
vernal moth
no, you sell your life away and they give you pennys back
warm anchor
They can already track me when I use app to purchase
spare venture
tf you spending $10k on groceries and subscriptions in 2 months for
warm anchor
so why not using the cards
spare venture
you pretty much need to build credit in the US
warm anchor
no, you sell your life away and they give you pennys back
The only way for me to not get "tracked" is to phyically go to store and use cash.
spare venture
why not get some benefit from doing it
warm anchor
which is not ideal during covid
vernal moth
oh I would also never use amazon for groceries cause its a ecological disaster, lol
vernal moth
no but I know that
warm anchor
idk compare to walmart idk which one is more of a disaster
so it doesnt really mater if you are in US unless you want to grow your own food
spare venture
for example because of my excellent credit I didnât have to do a security deposit for my apartment
warm anchor
I think they dont have those in EU
warm anchor
that's about the sweet spot actually. You dont need 10+
Just make sure you call them and let them know you just get a raise and want to let them know how much you are currently making đ
spare venture
yeah i go for a credit increase from them about once a year
i also fluff my salary a lot and they donât really call you out on it
warm anchor
yeah that's correct
vernal moth
for example because of my excellent credit I didnât have to do a security depos...
Security deposit is a legal thing here I think
Meanwhile I am cancelling my visa cc most likely and just using a debit card for everything
So that I can go from cc + Giro to just having one card
golden gust
It's weird cos until I went to uni, I didn't know anybody with a CC, and those whom did where "bank of mom and dad" types who did some work for their booze but not much more
warm anchor
In the US, how good of a loan you get / amount is also based on credit scores, @vernal moth so it's pretty big difference
it may be a 8% to 2% difference and fact that in years of interests
that's gonna be a lot
vernal moth
It's here too, but idk how having many cards gives you a better score, lol
The score is based on income and if you failed to pay stuff in the past
golden gust
depends
warm anchor
different "streams" of credit not necessary more cards but you are doing business with more companies
golden gust
I mean, it's in part the magical black box
having too many streams of credit can actually be harmful
vernal moth
Yeah for me it would be a big red flag
Instead of having one proper loan you get many small ones, that seems like you are evading some
Something*
golden gust
well, depends
radiant oriole
What really builds credit is having a consistent history of borrowing and paying it back.
The more consistent the history is, the better deal youâll get
warm anchor
in the US, your total debt is reported anyway
golden gust
car loan, margage, credit cards, etc
warm anchor
so it doesnt really matter they can find out anyway.
vernal moth
I have a consistent history of positive cash flow that should be he most important
golden gust
all count as "borrowed" currency
radiant oriole
I can go to transunion right now and theyâll tell me exactly how much I owe and exactly how much I have available to borrow
golden gust
I've seen people who have had a positive cash flow who blow it the moment they can spend a dime đ
like, bruh
vernal moth
I know what I owe, 0 bucks, lol
golden gust
even in 2nd year my flat mates still blew their first student loan deposit on freshers
warm anchor
6 figure salary, 7 figure lifestyle đ
radiant oriole
I know what I owe, 0 bucks, lol
Congrats, youâre one of the most risky borrowers
warm anchor
vernal moth
No am not because I have tons of reportable stuff in depots
Getting a loan for like a house here means they look at your cash flow and ask you to have X% on hand
radiant oriole
Also if you owe nobody nothing (no mortgage, no auto loan, nothing) then youâre leaving money on the table
vernal moth
How would loaning give me money in the end?
golden gust
I mean
radiant oriole
Imagine you have 20k and you want to buy a car
Instead of buying the car, you invest the money at 7%, and take out an auto loan for 3%
golden gust
You're tryna look at it from if a human being was judging on if you're safe to loan credit to
warm anchor
Taking current housing market for example, taking out a loan of 1 million at a 2% rate will let you more money in the end because your house is appricating at a rate of 50%
(number is made up)
vernal moth
Instead of buying the car, you invest the money at 7%, and take out an auto loan...
That would require me to actually invest properly đ
radiant oriole
And if youâre not, youâre leaving money on the table
Itâs very easy to invest properly
vernal moth
I can't justify spending time to learn that shit because it disgusts me so much
warm anchor
Mini doesnt want more money he just wants to b happy 
thick pagoda
how to download 1.18.1 papaer server??? i can find only 1.18.2
golden gust
Click the more button
warm anchor
@thick pagoda scroll down on dl page, you will see
radiant oriole
Mini casually ignoring compound interest 
vernal moth
I have like a few ETFs and shit
thick pagoda
ok i am stupid
vernal moth
To do make a ton of profit on those
thick pagoda
thanks
vernal moth
But I think I could do more
But that's so much work
Eventually I should just pay somebody
radiant oriole
Dump it in your favorite S&P500 index fund and do nothing else
Thatâs like all there is to it
vernal moth
Here, have 1k, now go invest my 50k or whatever
lilac moon
I have like a few ETFs and shit
Sounds like an nft :troll
warm anchor
It's a long game
vernal moth
It's a disgusting game
warm anchor
but once you reach endgame you can comfortably say shitposting in PaperMC for life without worry about next meal
radiant oriole
And if you donât play it youâll be decades behind on retirement
vernal moth
Oh yeah I have to play it, I know
radiant oriole
You can choose not to but
warm anchor
For a second, I read hangar, I was like damn mini omega rosting himself right there
idk EU probably got better system anyway compre to US
welfare wise
so you will probably still be better off in terms of getting too old to work and no saving.
radiant oriole
The US has social security which is literally a Ponzi scheme but we donât talk about that
warm anchor
vernal moth
My dad just buys shares in windmills đ
warm anchor
I sure wish my car is wind powered after 2 days ago my full tank of gas was $50
wide chasm
Only 50 dollars?
wide chasm
A full tank of gas costs >100 euro for us
warm anchor
wide chasm
Prices are between 2.10 - 2.20 euro/L.
vernal moth
Prices are between 2.10 - 2.20 euro/L.
Most of that is tax and stuff anyways
warm anchor
damn $9 a gallon that's a fuck tone (I did math)
spare venture
so wait what is your reason to go from a credit card to a debit card
wide chasm
Most of that is tax and stuff anyways
Yes
mossy vessel
Fueled for ~140⏠some days ago smh
warm anchor
nmf coping
spare venture
in my opinion there is no reason to ever do that, far riskier to use a debit card and you are leaving money on the table
twin lagoon
what
spare venture
at least in the US
twin lagoon
no one in EU uses creditcards on a daily basis
warm anchor
I think barty is talking about the protection you get from using credit cards in US
vernal moth
My car has a really small tank and is really efficient so even when I need to use my car I don't need to care about the prices
wide chasm
I don't even have a credit card
mossy vessel
I sure wish my car is wind powered after 2 days ago my full tank of gas was $50 ...
Pretty cheap 
golden gust
Yea, I mean, that's part of the fun over here in the EU is that everybody just uses debit cards
twin lagoon
creditcards still give you protection here but you generally don't need it unless you go outside of EU
vernal moth
But damm its nice driving on the Autobahn right now, it's really chill cause people drive chill to safe fuel đ
golden gust
Like, people often don't wanna spend what they don't got, and credit card offers over here are kinda shitty
spare venture
if someone somehow gets a hold of your debit card, they get to spend money directly out of your bank account, whereas if they get your credit card they arenât spending your money
twin lagoon
and how do they want to use your debit card?
vernal moth
if someone somehow gets a hold of your debit card, they get to spend money direc...
Bank will have my back no matter what
spare venture
do you have to put in a PIN every time you spend anything?
twin lagoon
contactless payments are limited to like 20 dollars (it's quite a bit more but the limit depends on your bank too)
above that you enter a pin
warm anchor
only $20???
twin lagoon
no as in it's just a low number
vernal moth
It's more than 20
twin lagoon
it'll be more than $20
spare venture
Bank will have my back no matter what
correct but in the meantime you have X money not available to you for Y days, wouldnât have that problem if you used a credit card
warm anchor
I dont think my card has limit lol
twin lagoon
but it's low
warm anchor
and no it doesnt ask for my pin (just US thing)
spare venture
yeah PIN is rarely asked for in US
wide chasm
But with a credit card I can spend money I don't have, no thanks
warm anchor
the only time I ever need to enter pin is to get cashback from debit card
spare venture
well if you have self control itâs definitely a better deal in the US
warm anchor
iirc
vernal moth
correct but in the meantime you have X money not available to you for Y days, wo...
Well, am in the comfortable situation that my account is already filled enough that I could survive a few months if needed, and really, that's so many ifs that I don't waste thoughts on that, lol
mossy vessel
Rumors say, next time I should also look on the fuel consumption, otherwise I'll likely pay more than a grand this year just for fuel lol
spare venture
Well, am in the comfortable situation that my account is already filled enough t...
fair enough, i just like havin 0 risk vs having some risk of being impacted financially
warm anchor
Just take out the seat in your car, save weight bro
twin lagoon
i would absolutely use a creditcard abroad or for large transactions
wide chasm
A credit card sounds like more of a risk to me
twin lagoon
not really an option here at a lot of stores at the moment ^
spare venture
ah
twin lagoon
most supermarkets do not accept visa or mastercard
warm anchor
wtf
twin lagoon
but that's a the netherlands thing
spare venture
what do they accept
twin lagoon
maestro / vpay
wide chasm
Debit cards
warm anchor
if you dont accept those here, you dont get business lol
spare venture
oh i see
twin lagoon
maestro is disappearing in 2 years
so hopefully mastercards will start being accepted everywhere
spare venture
here basically every bank/financial institution uses visa or mastercard
twin lagoon
more importantly, i'd be able to use my debit card online aswell
which you can't do with a maestro or vpay card
warm anchor
wtf
mossy vessel
This sounds much overcomplicated
twin lagoon
i don't actually know why we use those two
tropic flame
Michael based
based debit card user
mossy vessel
Though on the other hand, I use several banks and cards parallel lol
wide chasm
Why not just use your banking app for online transactions?
twin lagoon
but in return for not having normal debit cards for online transactions, there is a platform adopted by every dutch bank and every web store to do instant bank transactions
which is what the majority will use because of how accessible & easy it is
suffers the same issue as debit cards though, not risk-free
spare venture
yea thatâs just why i like using credit because the risk is all on the credit card company rather than you
plus all the bonuses
twin lagoon
cashback / bonuses aren't as big here as in the US
spare venture
in the US if youâre responsible and pay it off and donât carry a balance, itâs a no brainer
twin lagoon
like just comparing AMEX NL & US, there's a lot less benefits
spare venture
EU sounds like it isnât worth it
twin lagoon
i still believe you should have a credit card if your income allows for it
especially when going abroad
mossy vessel
Imagine not collecting your Payback points
twin lagoon
but i also 100% understand people that don't have one
wide chasm
I mean, with a credit card you can pay with money you don't have, which a debit card doesn't have that issue, so I would still never switch to a credit card
warm anchor
that's a bonus to some stef but that's just bad financial decisions
spare venture
thatâs where the responsibility thing comes in
twin lagoon
another factor in the US would be building your credit score
and i'd absolutely be using my creditcard for everything if i needed to build my credit score
spare venture
yeah
twin lagoon
but a credit score does not exist here either
spare venture
like i said I didnât have to pay a security deposit on my apartment, iâll get much better mortgage rates, prob better rates on any loan in general
wide chasm
So with a credit card you open yourself up to bad financial decisions, whereas with a debit card you don't. (I mean, you can still make bad decisions, but just less bad.)
spare venture
i regret
twin lagoon
fucking weeb
spare venture
trigger warning next time plz
wide chasm
Where's my ban hammer
warm anchor
I spoiler it 
spare venture
nsfw it jesus
twin lagoon
@quasi valley thoughts
void void
nuke it
static badge
still sorrel
when you pick up your glass from your desk and all your pc fans start spinning
and then when you put it down they all stop
warm anchor
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/876902758366736457/898822874788409394/893...
Good morning leaf how's class today 
still sorrel
ok turns out the random guy that DMed me
is in fact female
well I have yet to confirm it
worn ember
dont get scammed 
brave mountain
Such a pretty program.
still sorrel
dont get scammed <:kek:594643029994897408>
dw
just bought her nitro for 1 year
no way she will leave me now
worn ember
magic river
Oh hey apple event
proud lance
limber knotBOT
s/hey/get
rare python
Discord is back!
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot, â Uncaught REKTError: REKT is not defined
rare python
Woop woop
limber knotBOT
Correction, <DiscordBot> <13PeterCrawley> woo woo
rare python
Although it is having issues.
Time to disconnect from the inferior IRC.
Ya, its slow as.
So it's probably still starting back up.
limber knotBOT
discord is slow? damn.
ashen cliff
Amazing.
rare python
That and being flooded by everyone auto-reconnecting.
quasi valley
god bless Discord
ashen cliff
Back to IRC and TeamSpeak we go.
rare python
This has reinforced my belief that IRC is inferior to Discord.
I was missing all the amazing features, like formatting, and ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
limber knotBOT
You don't know how to do formatting? That's a shame
^ it bridges about 10% of messages from irc
aaaaaaaaa
only irc users can enjoy that message
Oh yeah Discord can't do color
Correction, <Amaranth> Oh yeeh Discord cen't do color
kenny how to colur
rare python
Ayy spotify is back!
limber knotBOT
wait damn it wasnt just discord?
limber knotBOT
Owen is dummy
foggy silo
I forgor đ
still sorrel
oh shit
today random person sent me a friend request and randomly started DMinng
started small talking
who I share no servers with
now wants to voice chat
and its apparently a female
limber knotBOT
Ask for proof
Also ask him if he's a bot and if he isn't ask how did he got your discord name. If he doesn't tell you threaten her with sending a nuke
warm anchor
You getting honypotted bro
cedar spade
Dishwasher
ancient bolt
Base M1 Ultra Mac Studio is insane, not even mentioning the upgraded version
Honestly the M1 Max would be amazing already but damn, I want onnneeeee
golden gust
jira can suck my big toe, it refused to let me comment with a ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻÂ in there
short yarrow
does anyone know how forum software would store content from threads and replies? specifically the formatting aspect. like you have bold text, fonts, quoting replies, etc
void void
Depends on the forum software, xenforo (probably) stores it as BBcode
void void
hope that doesn't break any rules ^
https://ci.codemc.io/job/filoghost/job/HolographicDisplays/ you can grab the build from here
rule 4 in #welcome
I'm sorry, message deleted
plucky sparrow
Base M1 Ultra Mac Studio is insane, not even mentioning the upgraded version
Honestly yeah
I was expecting a much higher price but this seems like a really great deal
Not a big fan of the design but otherwise itâs very nice
still sorrel
tfw the random e-girl that sent you a friend request even though you have no severs in common and suddenly started talking to you leaked her address
bruhâ˘ď¸
ashen cliff
It's a trap.
foggy silo
still sorrel
she sent an amazon.com screenshot which had her location in it
dont think she realised
ashen cliff
Base M1 Ultra Mac Studio is insane, not even mentioning the upgraded version
God damn. I need to test one.
But I do wonder, how far the chip would go if it wasn't power/thermally limited.
Tho, I assume they are pushing the limits of efficiency anyway.
left swift
bro you are 100% talking to a bot
left swift
gain some knowledge
twin lagoon
@waxen panther thoughts
still sorrel
this is 100% a real person
left swift
discord being down cut into my wages today
now I gotta double down last 3 hours to make up my lost pay
please dont fire me jroy
spare venture
paper general
left swift
sharty
limber knotBOT
Reminder that IRC is bad. 
limber knotBOT
irc is not bad, it only took me four minutes to login
limber knotBOT
and i cant see if that emoji worked
magic river
emote*
limber knotBOT
woo new vulnerability
magic river
emoji is the unicode standard ones
limber knotBOT
it did work im surprised
s/im/I'm
Correction, <onetesseract> it did work I'm surprised
worn ember
limber knotBOT
Wow ya, it really does take IRC ages to log in.
Gimme a second, i'll time it.
well it takes me ages but that is because im using a stupid client with no config
it has config, i just havent configged it
12 seconds from Start -> #paper
thats not that bad
anyway
worn ember
longer than discord
rare python
I'll time discord.
dawn ledge
i cant launch any 1.18 versions, once the mojang logo loading bar reaches the end it freezes my whole pc everytime, anyone know a fix?
worn ember
cant do anything without logs
dawn ledge
ig ill never be able to play 1.18 lmao, ive tried everything
ill see if it even created logs.
rare python
Attempt ruined by discord forcing me to sign back in. :/
plucky sparrow
You can make it show the console on startup
rare python
Attempt #2
merry talon
still does
on call engineering? is it not literally midday on a tuesday?
rare python
4 seconds
dawn ledge
their isnt even any logs...
worn ember
on call engineering? is it not literally midday on a tuesday?
i doubt they have someone on premise in a datacenter at all times
merry talon
datacenters do have staff on site 24/7
worn ember
why dont you go tell them that then
merry talon
Discord use GCP as well
dawn ledge
rare python
I wonder if I can get IRC to load faster.
dawn ledge
sent from my phone since my pc is bricked now after trying to run mc... but i dont see any errors
dawn ledge
[16:29:46] [Render thread/INFO]: Setting user: Beautifulz
[16:29:46] [Render thread/INFO]: Backend library: LWJGL version 3.2.2 build 10
[16:29:48] [Render thread/INFO]: Narrator library for x64 successfully loaded
[16:29:48] [Render thread/INFO]: Reloading ResourceManager: Default
[16:29:52] [Render thread/INFO]: OpenAL initialized on device OpenAL Soft on VG248 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)```this is the only log i got, and everything looks fine
reinstall nvida drivers gonna try again.
ight sick it worked
dk why i was having suck a hard time before.
still sorrel
left swift
silver nexus
it was
languid karma
Ah
limber knotBOT
It was offline, same with Spotify, presumably GCP went down.
left swift
discord is offline right now
rare python
You sure about that?
limber knotBOT
Honestly IRC just seems like a Discord before Discord.
spiral robin
..
limber knotBOT
I mean I know that is essentially what it is.
But this just feels like Discord but bad.
magic river
IRC is older than most of the people here
limber knotBOT
I know.
magic river
IRCv3, especially if you're using something like irccloud, can feel pretty modern still
But yeah, the basics are from 1988 and even if things support IRCv3 it downgrades cleanly to that 1988 version, more or less
limber knotBOT
Bare in mind Discord is basically the first thing like it that I used.
And I have been using it for like 4 years.
magic river
Oh so you're like 18? đ
limber knotBOT
17, 18 in like 3 or so months.
magic river
10 years ago we were using Mumble and IRC
Mumble is still way better in a lot of ways than Discord for audio quality, functionality, permissions, etc
brave mountain
Now reddit is down, damn
rare python
Yes but Discord is more accessible.
magic river
IRC is less shiny but basically always works and you can use whatever client you want to connect to it
Discord isn't more accessible compared to a web IRC client
It's just more polished because it's all locked down and has one client and one (kind of) server so they don't have to deal with any of that
left swift
ok boomer
rare python
Oh ya, I wish discord were more open to custom clients.
Although it being against TOS has not stoped people.
It never does.
magic river
Matrix is probably the thing that has a real chance at replacing Slack, Discord, etc though
brave mountain
Why there is always problem with audio when screen sharing on discord?
upbeat falconBOT
magic river
https://element.io/ is the product they're building out of it, although there are a bunch of clients and even some third party server implementations
frank otter
matrix is cool, I wish I could be bothered to convince my friends to move
I think they recently integrated VoIP into element, I could be wrong
magic river
I think it's still a beta?
true canyon
What does mumble do that discord doesn't for audio? Discord's "solution" for improving quality is just offering higher bitrates but that's not an actual solution for their lower quality sound.
magic river
I have no idea
true canyon
It's something magical!
rare python
Discord screen sharing is painful.
magic river
Opus was kind of made for Mumble so I guess it makes sense they use it the best
rare python
Discord screen sharing is painful.
You can get more quality by spam sending a bunch of .png files in a channel. đ¤Ł
true canyon
Suppose so, Amaranth. Meanwhile, I'm not fully convinced on any of the "everything's end to end encrypted and you always know it's them" stuff as being super accessible for regular users because if you want any sort of secu[MBAXTER HAS CHANGED PRIVATE KEY, DO YOU TRUST MBAXTER? Y/N]rity you're going to run into frustra[AMARANTH WANTS TO JOIN THIS CONVERSATION, HERE IS AMARANTH'S PUBKEY DO YOU TRUST THEM TO READ YOUR MESSAGES? Y/N]tion pretty fast.
magic river
More specifically CELT (one of the precursors to Opus) used Mumble as a target use case and test bed
đ
limber knotBOT
4/10 would not IRC again
limber knotBOT
get off my lawn
rare python
I assume you have to be connected to do that.
limber knotBOT
lol
frank otter
.rekt MiniBot
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot, â It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a REKT man in possession of a REKT fortune, must be in want of a REKT
What.
warm anchor
.kill @frank otter
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.
warm anchor
Wtf
left swift
classic
magic river
golden gust
My fave part
about working against 3rd party plugins
IS WHEN THEIR API MAKES 0 SENSE
golden gust
here is the logic I needed from a plugin to work out which inventory block was involved and who was involved
bearing in mind, that the event has a getLocation method
which, sometimes returns nothing, sometimes returns the players location!
and a getPlayer method, which, sometimes returns a player, sometimes returns nothing!
and then, theres bukkit, where Double chests can't be a blockInventoryHolder
oh, no
that's gotta be special class
magic river
Listen this all made sense in 2011 đ
(I drank a lot in 2011)
Although I wasn't actually involved then so... not my fault
wide chasm
There are two options: Minecraft is dumb or Bukkit is dumb. Sadly, most of the time both options apply.
magic river
It's almost a 1:1 mapping of how MC works
magic river
With some cleanup on slot numbers
golden gust
it woulda been semi nice if there was a sane interface there
magic river
Or at least how it worked in 2011
golden gust
get the left chest by default or something, idfk
so many god damned traps and stupid corners
left swift
brocc is pro at interfaces
magic river
Have you ever seen all the hoops you have to jump through to get the context of who killed who and how in a death event?
golden gust
oh god
that entire thing is basically ass cancer
what's worse is that bukkit doesn't even map that 1:1
so you end up with fun stupid stuff
e.g. suicide, is bukkit only
magic river
Oh yeah I'm not even talking about the CombatTracker, the thing Mojang came up with to keep track of all of this
You don't even get to see that
tropic flame
LMFAO
void void
i am learning kubuntu!!!
golden gust
bahahahahaaaa
lilac moon
Matrix is probably the thing that has a real chance at replacing Slack, Discord,...
from personal experience running a homeserver matrix is pretty terrible, at least in its current state
uses more ram than a minecraft server
magic river
It's a ruby REST server so yeah, that checks out
lilac moon
it's actually python
magic river
There is a rust version
lilac moon
matrix.org is making their own go version too called dendrite
and conduit (the rust one) isnt near produciton ready yet
with synapse (the python one and is the main one) it for some reason would spike every month or two to 16+ GIB of ram after sitting happily at 2-3 at other times
plus their e2ee implementation barely encrypts anything
my favorite part about it though is that there is no way to delete a room currently
spiral robin
đ
left swift
eternity guess what
spiral robin
Hi!
warm anchor
eternity guess what
What
left swift
Simping for pokimane 
isnât just a moment â¸ď¸ , itâs a lifestyle đŤ a reason to breathe đ¤ an escape đââď¸ from this evil world đ filled with thieves 𼡠Itâs art đźď¸ the first gift đ you open on Xmas đ a hug đ¤ from a loved one đ everything youâve ever wanted love đ everything you need đ đĽş
golden gust
did you know that testosterone levels are on a decline in the male population?
left swift
i am the major reason
magic river
I know sperm counts are, not sure about testosterone
turbid oar
https://tenor.com/view/there-there-cats-cat-dog-cheer-up-gif-14793531
That is honestly adorable đ¤Š
magic river
iirc the reason is the same reason Alex Jones was screaming about turning the frogs gay
left swift
no politics
turbid oar
iirc the reason is the same reason Alex Jones was screaming about turning the fr...
turning the frogs gay!?
wdym
left swift
theres a song about it
turbid oar
send it here
left swift
just youtube it
magic river
A common kind of plastic has some chemical that leaches out of it
golden gust
more basically shit that we're putting in the water is causing frogs to basically change sex
but, frogs naturally do that, or something
magic river
There are kinds of frogs that adapt to hostile environments by having some of the males turn in to females, iirc
turbid oar
xD
magic river
The chemical is making them do it more than they need to
lilac moon
fascinating
warm anchor
Thatâs pretty cool
golden gust
but, basically, things like the pill are basically causing the like, treated sewage into rivers and such which is impacting frogs and other stuff
left swift
frogs, turtles, who cares
left swift
oh great chad is here
spare venture
alex jones was right
magic river
He actually was, if you disregard everything he said
spare venture
he is so good at that
left swift
if u pretend he was right and ignore the facts, he was right
magic river
He was talking about a real thing but sensationalized it and/or misunderstood it
I'm guessing both
spare venture
iâm like an hour into elden ring and wondering how it got a 97 on metacritic
magic river
It doesn't deserve a 97 but it's just like the other FromSoft games or Nintendo games
Knock 5-10 points from it and the score makes sense, people just gush over their stuff
It definitely doesn't deserve a 97 on PC, shit is a chopfest
spare venture
so far id play dark souls 3, bloodborne, demons souls remake, and sekiro 100% over it
but iâll find out if i have the same opinion as i progress
magic river
It's way better than Demon's Souls and Sekiro is a completely different thing
spare venture
the first boss i ran into was ridiculous, i think iâm significantly underleveled
magic river
It's a rhythm game pretending to be a fighting game
Tree Sentinel is supposed to be your tutorial about running away from open world bosses
magic river
I could see how people would like Dark Souls 3 more than Elden Ring although I prefer the more open style
It's clearly Dark Souls 4
spare venture
i hate the open style
the first boss i ran into besides the tutorial always die boss, is uhhh
warm anchor
You can kill tutorial boss iirc
magic river
Was it a golden dude on a horse?
magic river
Oh, that's the first "real" boss you're supposed to do afaik
Like, it's not optional
spare venture
yeah he has a shitton of hp compared to previous 1st bosses
like dark souls 3 for example i could beat that dude in my sleep at level 1
is he the first boss iâm supposed to fight?
magic river
I believe so, yeah
spare venture
tf lol
magic river
Lobos did it đ
spare venture
i know i was just not expecting that, if youâre not parrying him itâs a very tough fight
magic river
Explore more, you should be able to get a lot of levels before you fight him
Or do you have to fight him to stop being maidenless? I forgot how that goes
spare venture
iâve been able to level up 4 times lol after exploring most of the area
idk the game pointed me that way
merry talon
a lot of shit used in manufacturing are endocrine disruptors
just left over from when we didn't know anything
magic river
Yeah, you can explore a lot more
merry talon
so much would never be allowed today lol
spare venture
yeah iâve been exploring the top left
magic river
I mean, you can explore at least half the map before you fight him đ
Well, maybe not quite that much, more than 1/3 though
magic river
Gotta find the ruins and the roads
warm anchor
Barty I am gonna need you to decorate that wall
spare venture
no
warm anchor
spare venture
god damn lobster just fucked me up
cosmic raft
it's next year, have you finished reading them yet?
spare venture
god i hate infinite stamina enemies
foggy silo
Me when I transform structure-shy programs
foggy silo
spare venture
another pro of using credit cards is that they seem to be giving out phone protection.. my new card has $600 in cell phone protection if i pay my phone bill with it
void void
it's next year, have you finished reading them yet?
Read it all, I think I understand your DFU pr now
Looks like you already have it :P
frank otter
.kill <@!692312512900890644>
.kill Eternity
limber knotBOT
gags and ties Eternity then throws them off a mountain.
magic river
gagging them and tying them up: hot
throwing them off a mountain: not
Getting mixed signals here
frank otter
*gags and ties Eternity then throws them off a mountain.*
@warm anchor need opinions on your death
I mean I guess there are worse ways to go
vernal moth
I think that's what you call a love hate relationship
frank otter
I don't think I'd completely willingly throw someone off a mountain, I guess I must have just got carried away
waxen hollow
spawn with ai
warm anchor
edgy fulcrum
Hi guys! Do you guys know or suggest any good bank plugin? It can be free and premium.
left swift
how that plugin work
u use the compass on the item and it shows stats? do u gotta keep using it on the item or is it one time use
quick obsidian
drop it onto the item and the item will then show stats
coarse veldt
left swift
quick obsidian
also be interested in hearing you guys' take on this https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/more-strict-rules-for-titles-and-descriptions.549583/
quick obsidian
based
left swift
they should ban all skript resources
wide chasm
You filthy Java elitist, how dare you speak such words!
quick obsidian
skript resource should go on skunity or wherever, not on spigot/polymart/mcm/whatever else
ashen cliff
C++ plugins only.
next frost
Xtend plugins only
wide chasm
No more plugins, if you don't want a Vanilla server, not our problem
left swift
spigot returns to vanilla
tropic flame
un-cheapening my plugins part 2: shiny new icons
I just had an idea
you know that AI that generates artwork?
I'll generate a bunch of anime girls and use them as my plugin icons
green edge
With srv records, if a server is down, does the next in the order of priority get selected?
golden gust
no
void void
left swift
#gifs-and-memes
edgy fulcrum
Hi guys! Do you guys know or suggest any good free or premium bank plugins?
left swift
yes
edgy fulcrum
What is the name?
rancid void
huh. looks like my VRAM is "full".
"can't allocate 2 GB because you only have 6 GB free"
limber knotBOT
Daily reminder that IRC is bad.
rare python
Agreed.
golden gust
talking to yourself is a sign of insanity, btw
left swift
cat is experienced in this
plucky sparrow
True
pastel reef
If I want to replace my old CPU with a new one that has identical tdp and thermal limit, do I still need a new cooler? It's from AMD FX-4100 to AMD FX-8300 in this case.
pastel reef
Those chips work fine even while burning hot.
I'm starting to realize that FX are the psychopaths of cpus.
ashen cliff
They do be.
rare python
talking to yourself is a sign of insanity, btw
Considering that talking to myself is fairly normal for me, I must be insane.
ashen cliff
Most of them can to 5Ghz. For almost no performance gain.
quick obsidian
plus the second one is funnier
quick obsidian
there is no eco chan
void void
there is no eco chan
no(t yet)...
quick obsidian
im not saying im against the idea
golden gust
We need some like, underground force
which just comes along and chan-ifys rando projects
got no chan? you do now!
left swift
@warm anchor
quick obsidian
got no chan? you do now!
that sounds like an advertising slogan in a parallel universe where chan is some kind of 90s slang
fallen oracle
I'm br0kĂŠ
fallen oracle
Frfr
cunning raft
@waxen panther
left swift
dont ping notables
cunning raft
@left swift
waxen panther
why have i been pinged
left swift
unfortunate
cunning raft
why have i been pinged
I wanted your opinion
waxen panther
on
left swift
being poor
cunning raft
(as a British "person") (as a millionaire)
fallen oracle
left swift
spigto
cunning raft
ex-destiny my ass
cunning raft
Rebounded
void void
so, ex-ex-destiny?
waxen panther
addicted
waxen panther
ok
you post about your spigot resources here a lot
(something i have noticed (as a britlead))
quick obsidian
it's a discord filled with clever people, why not
waxen panther
debateable
quick obsidian
thats some smart marketing you got there broccolai
cunning raft
clever people != British people
left swift
I will agree (as the papermc general)
waxen panther
clever people != JRoy
left swift
j*oy
left swift
essentialsx discord stole my wallet and fucked my girlfriend
would recommend nice plugin
cunning raft
cucked
quick obsidian
essentialsx has no business being as good as it is
quick obsidian
yeah cmi is better
this is the most incorrect opinion i have seen all day
left swift
rancid void
talking to yourself is a sign of insanity, btw
Oh boy, I might have a problem
left swift
btw jrotc my invoice is in the mail for all the work I've done at preventing politics in papermc. I'll take crypto and nft as payments.
vernal moth
I dont talk to myself, I only talk to my hand
quick obsidian
i hallucinate other people so that way its technically not talking to myself
rancid void
golden gust
tries to work out if talking to yourself, a living being, or your hand, essentially an inanimate object, is worse
has real, "Yea, I just go talk to enby" vibes
rancid void
that's discriminative of non-binary folk /j
(also commonly called enby)
is it still talking to yourself if it's as if you're talking to someone
golden gust
oh, "Empy"
rancid void
oh, "Empy"
golden gust
how i met your mother scene
rancid void
ah. Didn't watch it, I'm not a fan of artificial laugh tracks
left swift
ooooooooh
golden gust
Yea, I mean, artificial laugh tracks are bleh, but, I mean,HIMYM was generally a good show that I could actually just like, do nothing for
very rare to find a show like that these days
though, too many shows rely on laugh tracks, it's sad
did you see the one for big bang theory?
left swift
himym is a good show 
golden gust
rancid void
the comments are good
I don't find TBBT funny with laugh track. At least the few snippets I saw on TV
spare venture
never thought that show was good at all
mortal osprey
@spark tartan well my dev friend made the horse bug work on java, it is incredibly fast and can jump this high đ
rancid void
ehh
rancid void
never thought that show was good at all
Think about it, that's what it's like for the actors because they don't have the laugh track.
Must be SO awkward
left swift
once the glamor of the socially awkward nerds fell off after season 1 it was dogwater
even then it was pushing it
signal peak
left swift
the truth
rancid void
Lovely how IntelliJ loses it's shit when you replace a local library jar in a gradle project
(everything red; library gets completely ignored until you reopen the project)
void void
Minecraft 1.18.1 version came out. Can I just use it?
Is it okay to show git-paper-214 (mc: 1.18.1) below?
left swift
no it's illegal
ripe sphinx
left swift
mojang will come steal ur dog
void void
?
left swift
we can see ur face in the reflection
void void
me?
golden gust
what you're asking makes little sense
you can "use" whatever paper version you want (just, ofc, outdated stuff ain't supported)
void void
oke
surreal ermine
can someone help me with this timing?
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=60d2c9a685694ac2bacb1847cbe96448
and tell me what is wrong with it? and how can i fix it?
ripe sphinx
online mode: Disabled
No support for pirates, GL;HF.
ripe sphinx
well now you've found your performance issue as well
shill out the $35 for a MC account and a proper paid host
golden gust
unsupported setup on what is generally an unsupported version now on below the minimum spec hardware
left swift
free host
surreal ermine
lol i know but still the only problem is entity ticks
golden gust
unsupported = no support
surreal ermine
i already bring one up which is a great server but just on oneblock so it takes way less cpu and ram but for 1.18.1 jisus this is hard
ripe sphinx
yeah contrary to what hosting companies etc would make you believe, running a server is difficult
left swift
or
pastel reef
How do I use hex codes for a server motd?
left swift
spare venture
yeah cmi is better
pin this
ripe sphinx
but then people might actually believe it
left swift
yeah pin me i deserve it
minor fjord
NoSQL devs be like
spring hemlock
NoSQL devs be like
Hi
minor fjord
hi
spring hemlock
hru
spring hemlock
nice to know
magic river
So, I was doing a UEFI upgrade via fwupd, it rebooted and I think it finished but now it's frozen on the boot screen
It has an ubuntu logo so I'm pretty sure it's made it past the UEFI but this is scary
waxen panther
monka
magic river
Oh, that was the shutdown screen, lol
Forced it to power off and on boot it's doing the UEFI upgrade now
Next time I won't walk away while I wait for it so I can know what stage its on
One of the voices in Elden Ring sounds just like Link on Ocarina of Time when you get sent flying
Screams just like Link does when he falls
spiral robin
spark tartan
<@!300559984842768385> well my dev friend made the horse bug work on java, it is...
I wouldn't mind this being a feature of breeding; it's otherwise pointless as currently implemented... & ponies are cool đ
abstract aspen
placid thicket
anyone willing to help me with some science that may potentally bluescreen your computer? trying to nail down if this issue is just me or not
limpid knot
any of yall watching this ps5 state of play too
charred sleet
anyone willing to help me with some science that may potentally bluescreen your ...
depends
placid thicket
depends
so i am moving to edmonton (a very large canadian city), and was looking at a city run public wifi map, when i zoom in on this map using chrome, it hard locks and eventually DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATIONs when i look at the same map and zoom using edge, everything is fine. here is said map. basically trying to work out if its my computer or chrome or the particular website
edit: should mention currently on win11 if you wanna try helping
https://data.edmonton.ca/Facilities-and-Structures/Open-City-Wi-Fi-Locations-Map-View/krxp-pvjf
charred sleet
can zoom in fine on chrome
charred sleet
win 11
lilac moon
what if im not on windows 11
placid thicket
well try anyway i guess, more data helps right?
lilac moon
i can zoom in on firefox on linux
placid thicket
solution, install linux i guess
lilac moon
lol
i think i have chromium too
it works on chromium and firefox on linux and macos
not sure if im being very helpful but its true
frank otter
seems to work on my Firefox on android, probably completely not helpful but all I have to hand atm
placid thicket
yeah... was thinking that. but have done a clean install of that driver a few times trying to chase down other issues. ROG RTX 2060
anyone got ideas or where to go from here?
limpid knot
that state of play was so bad