general

[warm anchor]

Remember when uninstall MC dungeon wipe your hard drive? Good time

[tropic flame]

wouldn't use XP even if people still supported it

[ripe sphinx]

lol forgot about that

[plucky sparrow]

7 was fine

[summer rivet]

I used Linux Mint 19

[plucky sparrow]

Wouldn’t use anymore

[tropic flame]

still on it cuz it's not windows 11 that'll run on 2GB RAM

• my CPU is funny because it's one of the first 64-bit CPUs and it misses an instruction that is required by windows 10 64-bit

so i either use Windows 10 32-bit or i use windows 7 64-bit if i actually want to make use of my CPU

[summer rivet]

nice

[tropic flame]

... which I'm not, this shit came with 32-bit OS and now I'm lazy to switch over

[summer rivet]

Is Windows 7 still secure?

[tropic flame]

"official" answer? everyone will say it doesn't receive updates anymore

personally? just have common sense

haven't had any problems with it

[twin lagoon]

no

[tropic flame]

yeah there you go

lmfao

[twin lagoon]

support was ended 2 years ago

[summer rivet]

I know

[tropic flame]

i really guessed it

[summer rivet]

I installed it 10 days before support ended or seomthing like that

[tropic flame]

anyways as i was saying, if you have common sense you'll be fine

[summer rivet]

I just need tot know how to install windows xp driver on windows 7?

[tropic flame]

you don't

[plucky sparrow]

windows 7 feels like the 1.8 of Minecraft

[twin lagoon]

more like 1.7.10

[summer rivet]

Then i dont have opengl :(

[tropic flame]

at most you'll like, install a Vista driver on 7 and it may work fine

my GPU drivers were meant for vista only but run on 7

[tropic flame]

yeah but the kernel got a major version between XP and Vista

so it won't work

[floral mesa]

you can install vista drivers on windows 10 and it should work fine

[tropic flame]

or at least it shouldn't

[floral mesa]

or windows 11

[summer rivet]

Ok what could i use instead?

it was already a pain to get network drivers worked....

[tropic flame]

yes because ever since Vista/7, Windows versions have been a reskin of what's already there mostly lol

(yet people here are calling it the 1.8 of Minecraft )

(sure)

[tropic flame]

does your gpu really only support XP?

[summer rivet]

Well if i talk about the comouter i am talking about, yes i think so, its an Geforce4 ti

[cosmic raft]

Lmao

These fucking titles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abGw1CCJ_sU

[void void]

#welcome rule 4, this isn't the place for that

[ripe sphinx]

Not a marketplace.

[void void]

~~also, ~~

[ripe sphinx]

discord.gg/helpchat has marketplace channels

[ripe sphinx]

[tropic flame]

welp

i mean

you can try

if it doesn't work then just boot into safe mode and remove the driver

but I'm not confident that it will work, really

[summer rivet]

well i dont know its just a zip folder with some files lmao

[tropic flame]

and uh, you could probably go with the MESA route but that's basically software mode drivers and unless your CPU is beefy, forget it

[summer rivet]

not execute able

[tropic flame]

oh so like

you got a bunch of .sys files?

[summer rivet]

yes something like that

[tropic flame]

nice

[summer rivet]

i think it might be different file types

but yeah some driver files

[tropic flame]

i mean, you'll go to the control panel and use the new hardware wizard to install those

[summer rivet]

so meant for manual installation i guess :D

[tropic flame]

but yeah that's the old fashioned way

yes

funny cuz i can't find drivers for the GeForce 4 anymore in Nvidia's website

[drowsy nacelle]

ty. Why is Kotlin not liked here?

[tropic flame]

oldest is GeForce 5

[summer rivet]

well its a geforce4 ti i sont think its beefy lol

[tropic flame]

GeForce 4 is a GPU

software mode means it'll be the CPU that's rendering

that's why I said that

[summer rivet]

oh the cpu is a pentium 4 3.00ghz HT

[tropic flame]

OH LMAO

forget MESA then

[summer rivet]

at least hypertjreading xD

[tropic flame]

not going anywhere

try the GPU drivers i guess

if it doesn't work, it doesn't work

[summer rivet]

wilö i be able to run linux on this pc

I mean about the drivers

[tropic flame]

Windows is a pile of legacy compatibility anyways so you might as well get a printer meant for Windows 95 running on it, why not a GPU

[summer rivet]

bc linux compartible was bad in history

[tropic flame]

uuh

I'd say you'd have better chances at this point with Linux yeah

[summer rivet]

I tried Linux mint 19

[tropic flame]

i mean they say the open source drivers suck but what's suckier is to not be able to use the hardware in the first place

so I'd take that

[summer rivet]

do they have bad performance?

I mean the gpu supports 2 monitors, thats kinda big for its time

[tropic flame]

people say so, yeah

[summer rivet]

2002 or whats it from

[tropic flame]

and that the proprietary drivers are better

2002

my onboard graphics is newer than that

damn

[summer rivet]

well

[tropic flame]

2003

[summer rivet]

it have 2x vga and the third one idk what it is, its round, maybe for old tv xDDD?

[tropic flame]

just today i found out i could increase the video memory to 128MB in the BIOS and i got a boost in GTA SA now

poor people gaming be like

[summer rivet]

I have a card for tv lol

[tropic flame]

"hmm let me kill explorer.exe, maybe that'll fix things"

[summer rivet]

my gpu have 128mb yea

i have an 256mb medion card even better but its broken :(

but the best is

I have an 8mb graphic card 😁

[smoky cloud]

I used to game on a ThinkPad and for some reason opening Outlook would boost my frame rate in FFXIV

[summer rivet]

lol

Is it a good idea to build an ssd for 100€ into and 700€ laptop thats already little old?

I fear to break it when opening it

I got this shit with an old laptop where tje cables stucked and the i had two parts that should be disconnected xDD

[tropic flame]

I've been gaming with 64mb VRAM ever since I got this PC

just today i found this option to increase it

[summer rivet]

nice

Do you play Minecraft with it?

[ashen cliff]

Intel iGPU goes up to like 2Gb, if you want.

[magic river]

You can't use that GPU on Linux

Unless nouveau works but in general it doesn't

nvidia's drivers are closed source so need to be updated to support new kernels but nvidia drops support for old GPUs

[tropic flame]

up to 1.14.4, cuz since 1.15 the game does some trippy stuff for my gpu's drivers and boom, access violation

[magic river]

So you'd need an older version of the driver that still supports that GPU but that would only work with an older kernel

[tropic flame]

so now i just play modded in 1.12.2 so i can actually get new things in the game 💀

[magic river]

Like a 3.x kernel probably

The oldest still supported kernel is 4.9

So you're going to have lots of security issues left unfixed with a kernel old enough to work with your GPU driver

And missing features

Windows won't be any better though, you'll probably have to use Vista or maybe 7 to get a GPU driver there

[summer rivet]

Do u play 1.7.10 too? xD

how much fps btw

[golden gust]

linode is being acquired by akamai

https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-to-acquire-linode

[charred sleet]

who is akamai

[magic river]

They are/were the largest CDN

They were doing CDN before CDN was a term

[tropic flame]

nah, last time i did it was modded but nowadays i use 1.12.2 for modded

when i play modded i usually spin up a server and i can't live without SpongeForge for plugins

[magic river]

The whole company started off as a clever consistent hashing function

[tropic flame]

if it's a personal computer then I'd take that risk but that's me speaking personally - and 4.9 doesn't sound that old, when did it come out?

2018?

5.x is kinda recent

[rare python]

Help my 10yo brother thinks 1.8 is the best

[tropic flame]

tell your 10yo brother he's got arthritis

and carpal tunnel

[rare python]

No lol

[magic river]

In computer science, consistent hashing is a special kind of hashing technique such that when a hash table is resized, only n/m keys need to be remapped on average where n is the number of keys and m is the number of slots. In contrast, in most traditional hash tables, a change in the number of array slots causes nearly all keys to be remapped because the mapping between the keys and the slots is defined by a modular operation.

[tropic flame]

he'll cry to his knees

[ripe sphinx]

https://f.u11.io/ijluLd

[tropic flame]

it was a joke since spam-clicking can legit get you those lol

[ripe sphinx]

(almost to 7.5y woo)

[ashen cliff]

You probably seen them, if you ever used Steam.

[summer rivet]

Minecraft 1.6 had real mc feeling

The old generation

Anyone remind that

[ashen cliff]

Still play it daily.

[summer rivet]

I have Optifine for it too

I know there is spigot for it but they deleted it on their website

[magic river]

Look if you're going to go for old MC 1.6 is a really weird choice

[summer rivet]

I only found an sus craftbukkit build

[magic river]

1.8 I can understand (but you're wrong :D) but beyond that the next place I'd stop is beta 1.7

[summer rivet]

its one of faviorite versions

[ashen cliff]

I thing I have all the 1.6.x builds of Bukkit.
Tho, I use Forge.

[void void]

i started playing minecraft on 1.6.4 xd

classic 👌

[summer rivet]

beta 1.7.3, release 1.6.4, minecraft 1.12.2 modded, minecraft 1.16.5 modded and minecraft 1.18.1 is best

[summer rivet]

me too!!! omg

This have vibes

[void void]

i haven't touched that version in ages. but I have super fond memories of running a vanilla server on a pentium 4 toshiba laptop with 256 mb of ram running linux mint

lmao

[magic river]

alpha 1.1.x here 😛

[void void]

it could handle like 3 players. but our chicken farm killed it lmao

[summer rivet]

I dont like it bc it havnt smooth lighting yet

[magic river]

That was the version I started on

I would rather play beta 1.7

beta 1.8 ruined PVP 😉

[summer rivet]

the last time i was playing an 1.6.4 server was some months ago on an anarchy server

I donz realy saw pvp changes between beta 1.8 and release 1.8

[magic river]

Well, no, because beta 1.8 is the one that ruined it 😛

[ashen cliff]

2010 gang.

[magic river]

Although versions in between did try to somewhat undo the damage

[summer rivet]

what was changed?

[magic river]

Enchantments and potions were added

[summer rivet]

I know the enderman did zombie sounds lmao

[magic river]

Enchantments turned survival PVP from being about surprise and positioning (and yes, how fast you could click and scroll through your food items) to being about grinding for enough hours to get protection 4 diamond armor

[ashen cliff]

Remember potions that did nothing in that beta.

And enchanting the flint n steel.

[magic river]

Oh yeah, I think potions were a beta 1.9 thing (so really 1.0)

[ashen cliff]

And shears.

Yeah.

Good times.

[summer rivet]

why cant i find beta 1.9 in the launcher?

[wide chasm]

Level 50 for enchantments and they're all gone after enchanting, good times

[summer rivet]

30 level for 30 level enchant xD

[magic river]

And once you did enough grinding to get your protection 4 diamond armor you were basically invincible

[summer rivet]

that was up to 1.8

[magic river]

Fights between two people with such armor took minutes and their armor and weapons were almost broken by the time someone won so you didn't even win much for it

[summer rivet]

lol

[flat shoal]

Plugin EpicGuard on proxy protect all subservers?

[magic river]

EpicGuard is dead

[flat shoal]

What I can replece for this?

[magic river]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

That one will probably work for the next few months still

But if it doesn't work you'll have to know Java and fix it yourself

[grim island]

https://sdomi.pl/weblog/15-witchcraft-minecraft-server-in-bash/
who needs paper anymore when you can just use bash... || /j ||

[lilac moon]

what the

[tropic flame]

i have GBs in craftbukkit builds from beta era of Minecraft stored on Google Drive

yoinked them from some link in Bukkit forums

but the filenames are so cryptic, because they're basically "Craftbukkit-<commit_hash>.jar"

so you have to take a wild guess as to what you'll be getting based on the position of the file compared to the total number

favorite game

"guess the beta 1.7.3 jar"

[lilac moon]

could try seeing if a certain file in the jar would have the version listed somewhere

[tropic flame]

probably the maven files inside META-INF

[lilac moon]

or if not some specific file, if it were anywhere in the jar even

[tropic flame]

but the time it takes for me to download them, might as well spin the server and see the console output

spares me from having to navigate a glorified zip file lmfao

[rare python]

Performance measured in days per tick.

[lilac moon]

wdym "glorified zip file"

[tropic flame]

that's what a .jar file is

i said it as a joke

[lilac moon]

ok

[tropic flame]

replace that with "jar file" and it's the same

[lilac moon]

i know

[tropic flame]

👍

[crystal compass]

bruh is this normal to happen every minute ```
Feb 15 19:18:01 nsxxxxxx systemd: Started Session 1581 of user root.
Feb 15 19:19:01 nsxxxxxx systemd: Started Session 1582 of user root.
Feb 15 19:20:01 nsxxxxxx systemd: Started Session 1583 of user root.
Feb 15 19:20:01 nsxxxxxx systemd: Started Session 1584 of user root.
Feb 15 19:21:01 nsxxxxxx systemd: Started Session 1585 of user root.
Feb 15 19:22:01 nsxxxxxx systemd: Started Session 1586 of user root.
Feb 15 19:23:01 nsxxxxxx systemd: Started Session 1587 of user root.

[merry talon]

you might have a cron job running every minute

[void void]

lol

[ripe sphinx]

Don't ignore my baby 😦

so fix it then lol

The nag is supposed to piss you off

Uh no my method isn't tied to L4J at all

(I've made a different L4J related PR that in hindsight I shouldn't have, but SysoutCatcher only uses standard JDK code)

[iron zephyr]

Trying to install MC Java for my wife, and her windows 11 PC just keeps prompting me to renew Xbox game pass gold. I am trying to install Java edition through the installer provided by Mojang, nothing to do with Xbox haha. Only solution I can find online is to install an old windows 7/8 launcher - is that safe with the recent security Java exploit thing?

Thanks for the help if anyone knows - can’t find anything online😕

[tropic flame]

it is safe, the launcher is still maintained

they call it the "Windows 7/8" launcher but in reality it's just what existed before whatever thing they invented as the new launcher came out - so it works on Windows 10 and 11 just fine

[ripe sphinx]

And assuming the recent Java security thing you're referring to is Log4Shell, that only affects MC itself, not the launcher, since the launcher isn't java (Can't remember if it's electron or C++)

[raven basin]

my minecraft server is dying in playerbase what should I do

[proud lance]

throw money at the players to stay

[spare venture]

advertise better, make your server more engaging

[warm anchor]

Build a better community (?)

[spare venture]

that too

[foggy veldt]

Download a plugin that fake player count so people think they’re playing on a popular server and invite their friends

[ripe sphinx]

yeah no.

[spare venture]

then you get players that are fooled by that

starting a bad cycle

[warm anchor]

I mean if your server runs on all popular off the shelf plugins, you will really need a strong community for it to work; otherwise, why would one play on your server than the other million choices

[raven basin]

I would consider it decently unique theres a WW1 Earth smp and theres gonna be a zombie mode coming out soon (based on the last of us) so its not just a crappy pasted server

it has a steady 12 players playing on it a few days ago

[spare venture]

but what is there to do

advertising effectively?

[raven basin]

How should I advertise

I posted a tiktok for it and a server trailer

tiktok got 250 views and I posted it yesterday

trailer only got 60 views on yt and its like 2 weeks old

[spare venture]

gotta find a way

thats like saying "How do i start a successful business"

to a bunch of entrepreneurs in the same field as you

[raven basin]

Well I imagine theres a lot of successfull server owners in here

so maybe I could learn some tips and tricks they know

[spare venture]

am not really sure if successful server owners are going to willingly give up their secrets to allow for more competition

[light raptor]

was there ever a paperspigot for 1.6.4? or was that when paperspigot was being created but never released a version for that version? or something like that. i havent seen any downloads for such a version

because around 1.6.4 (slightly before) in the paper repo it was still usder the spigot name

[foggy veldt]

I don’t think people disliked md5 back then

[magic river]

The project existed in the 1.6 era, dunno exactly when or if a release was made for any version there

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/worst-timeline-printer-company-putting-drm-paper-now

[raven basin]

LOL

good luck with that

[void void]

bruh

[ashen cliff]

Amazing.

[void void]

good morning

[prime coral]

hello

[rare python]

Depends on your hardware.

[simple karma]

yoo

i found plugin with all rights reserved 😂

[light raptor]

ok as far as i can tell this was the earliest PaperSPigot branded version https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/b9179a0a04ab1fa4e95e88aa59cdebc9c73dc433
All the previous commits are as spigot

thats public anyway

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/SK6hMb8m-2022-02-16_09-22-26.png

[summer rivet]

I cant find an spigot 1.6.4 version

[rich elbow]

y, no major updates for CE tho

mainly bugfixes

no prob tho we love bugfixes

[light raptor]

Spigot or paper

[ashen cliff]

Except that you can now get the better version for free as a homelab user.

[vernal moth]

@light raptor don't mention that site it provides illegal and potential malicious jars

[tropic flame]

i remember dinnerbone saying on Twitter that the launcher was written in C++

but maybe that could've been the launcher that came after the java one but before this one we got

idk

[vernal moth]

It's CEF

[light raptor]

Wait it does? Sorry I didn't realise that

[vernal moth]

There is a reason why we tell everybody to only download from official sites...

[pastel reef]

How would an Intel Itanium handle Minecraft?

[tropic flame]

i might be saying bs but isn't that like, an early 2000s CPU?

[pastel reef]

Correct

[ashen cliff]

Probably not very well.

[pastel reef]

How old is Pentium 4?

The one of a friend of mine gets 25 fps at 2 Chunks.

[summer rivet]

Desinfection destroy keyboards...

[pastel reef]

And after 5 days of work I even managed to squeeze a consistent 40 fps out of an Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 with 9 Chunks Render Distance in 1.18.1.

[ashen cliff]

Why not just use 1.17?

[rich elbow]

1.18 gets better FPS?

I think

[ashen cliff]

Depends. Not in my case sadly.

[summer rivet]

I played years on a Core 2 Duo... they are pretty good

[pastel reef]

That Laptop I refurbished actually got better framerates in 1.15.1 than my one year old i7-1165G7 laptop. Someone told me there could be a misconfiguration but I doubt that since I'm on Linux.

Please tell me if I'm wrong.

[ashen cliff]

Check the bios, if you want overwrite the TDP, TDP-UP and TDP-DOWN.

[pastel reef]

What is TDP?

[ashen cliff]

Simple way of saying it: How much power can it use.

[tropic flame]

i was going to ask if you were the guy with the GeForce 4 but i see that was Jonosa

damn, everyone with old hardware in here, makes me feel honored

[summer rivet]

can i replace the cpu/mainboard/cooling in a laptop? or bad idea?

[tropic flame]

my fellows LMAO

[ashen cliff]

CPU? Probably not.
Mobo? Probably not.
Cooling... maybe.

[rich elbow]

yea, with soldering station

[pastel reef]

I'd say everything is possible as long as you have the parts…

[ashen cliff]

And the skill.

[pastel reef]

But good luck trying to find a Mobile CPU on it's own for sale.

[ashen cliff]

eBay.

Plenty of them.

[rich elbow]

FCBGA1449 😵‍💫

[summer rivet]

what i like at my laptop:

• big screen
• low resolution (1600x900) bc i cant even see the difference to fhd xD
• solid design and stable
  What i hate:
• cant tale battery out
• have no place for ssd in addition to hdd
• middle cpu and dgpu
• im kinda always at 96% memory xD

[marble lark]

i doubt it's electron

[summer rivet]

I mean they are getting created anywere in the industry? Cant i buy it there? Or do i have to buy 1000x of them there xD?

[ashen cliff]

What kind of laptop do you even have?

[summer rivet]

what u mean by that?

[rich elbow]

lol

[summer rivet]

kind of

[rich elbow]

model

[ashen cliff]

Model at least.

[summer rivet]

lol

[ashen cliff]

Me_IRL.

[rich elbow]

lmao

[summer rivet]

||i5 6200u
8gb ddr3
1tb hdd(extra slow disc xD)
nvidia geforce gt 940m
17" 1600x900 screen
dvd ||

[rich elbow]

6200u is BGA

rip

[ashen cliff]

That's not that bad.

[rich elbow]

depends...

in general no, but if we're talking about upgrades... well

[ashen cliff]

I guess you can modify the TDP a bit and undervolt.
That's about it. Tho, the DDR4 version is a bit faster.

Sadly Intel learned from Haswell...

[summer rivet]

Doesnt changing the tdp that the cooling system have to work more?

[ashen cliff]

Yeah.

[summer rivet]

and can it reduce the life of the cpu?

[ashen cliff]

Nah.

[summer rivet]

🤔 so its not the same as overclocking?

[ashen cliff]

That also doesn't really reduce the life.

[summer rivet]

i also doubt i can change much in this 0815 bios xD

[ashen cliff]

You can still check. Tho, at least for undervolting you can do it from the OS.

[rich elbow]

will reduce income for intel tho

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, so please, just buy a new locked system.

[summer rivet]

locked?

[ashen cliff]

CPUs that you can't overclock.

[summer rivet]

I want to buy an ssd im sick of 0,1mbit write speed xD

[ashen cliff]

Probably the best upgrade you can do .

[rich elbow]

true

also https://videocardz.com/newz/der8auer-overclocks-core-i5-12400-non-k-cpu-to-5ghz-on-asus-b660-ddr5-motherboard

[ashen cliff]

Still need a "expensive" mobo for that.

[rich elbow]

well...

[ashen cliff]

AsRock please. 🙏

[summer rivet]

I just wanna check before if my internet wifi wodule is still broken

bc it breaks connection randomly

[ashen cliff]

Standard WiFi.

[summer rivet]

not good for a laptop xD

[ashen cliff]

Just get a cheap Intel 5Ghz module.

[summer rivet]

na it was good before it just started going to 0bytes/s randomly for no reason

it kills all my downloads :(

[ashen cliff]

Drivers.

[summer rivet]

yes that im using rn

[summer rivet]

reinstall network or something? will i use all my wifi passwords? xD

[ashen cliff]

Install the latest drivers... and it shouldn't reset the passwords, but it can.

[summer rivet]

Just a question, should i create partitions on an ssd?

[ashen cliff]

No.

[summer rivet]

i heard defragmention doesnt mind on ssd

[ashen cliff]

Legit, there is no point in making partitions on like anything.

[summer rivet]

but i heard with a different system partition u can reinstall windows without touching anything else?

[ashen cliff]

That's true, but you can reinstall Windows without touching your file anyway.

[summer rivet]

how?

[ashen cliff]

Refresh or something like that.

[summer rivet]

realy without letting back any garbage?

[ashen cliff]

Depends on what you select.
It can reinstall and keep your programs or remove them.

[summer rivet]

does that uninstall my programs?

ok nice

can i make settings, forcing my win10 not using more than 1,5 gb? before years i got it to 1,7gb but now its 2,7gb

[ashen cliff]

You can disable a bunch of services.

I'm sitting at 6GB with just Discord open: https://posili.me/i/DLVNHzqy-2022-02-16_12-11-45.png

[summer rivet]

how

[ashen cliff]

No idea, but I don't mind.

I assume it's Superfetch.

[summer rivet]

it would be 90% of ram for me

What actuall OS use less than 500mb if optimized currently?

Linux?

[ashen cliff]

Linux.

Tho, it will "use" more.

Due to the magic of caching.

[summer rivet]

Is it worth upgrading to 12 or 16gb on this laptop xD?

[rich elbow]

no

[ashen cliff]

Not really.

I would tell you to disable Superfetch, but you have a HDD.

[summer rivet]

it was 4gb ram before i already upgraded

[summer rivet]

what is Superfetch is to defragment?

[rich elbow]

it's worth... downgrading to windows xp lite 😵‍💫

but that will cause other... issues

[summer rivet]

awesome

im missing this times

yes

this cool old xp colors xD

[ashen cliff]

No. It loads programs you use a lot into ram.

So they open faster.

https://posili.me/i/fPHSy6JQ-2022-02-16_12-17-38.png

[summer rivet]

wdym?

[ashen cliff]

2GB in my case apparently.

It "prefetches" programs...

No idea how else to explain it.
So they don't have to be read from the disk, every time you open them.

[summer rivet]

ok so for ssd i could disable it? or is it still a good idea?

also i know that "if ram free yet why not use it"

so it instantly give the ram free if i need it?

[rich elbow]

think it's a bit more complicated

[summer rivet]

🤔

[ashen cliff]

Yeah.

[summer rivet]

Can I also disable defragmentation on ssd?

or does it do that by itself when seeing its an ssd?

[ashen cliff]

Yes. You are supposed to "trim" it.

[summer rivet]

what are the disadventaged of an ssd in comparision to hdd?

[ashen cliff]

Price.

And way harder to recover.

[summer rivet]

uhm so higher risk of data loss?

[ashen cliff]

Depends.

[summer rivet]

mh

But if one cell of millions is broken so it could not work anymore?

[subtle hollow]

random question

is there a existing license that allows for distribution&modification, but only in a public manner. meaning people can fork a project and modify it, as long as said modification/fork is made public. would gnu v3.0 work?

[wide chasm]

Yeah, that's the gist of GPLv3

[ashen cliff]

No. It will detect that and stop using that cell.

[wide chasm]

There are more clauses, so you should check whether you want those too, but with GPL derivative works have to be publicly available.

[summer rivet]

what can cause a fatal error then?

[ashen cliff]

Something like a dram dying or the controller nuking itself.

Dear Hetzner. I'm very sorry for making you diagnose our failed NVMe controller. But thank you for the addition 64GB of ram.

[marble lark]

does dropping your SSD into Chernobyl count

radiation does a real number on electronics in general

[ashen cliff]

I think Intel actually rates some of the enterprise SSDs for radiation.

[marble lark]

woah

didn't know that

probably gonna be monstrously expensive though

[ashen cliff]

Not really. Those are weak compared to "Space" grade stuff.

[snow kernel]

isn’t that a similar problem for airplanes?
random bit flips due to electrons hitting stuff

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, but again, "weak".

[marble lark]

not enough to cause serious issue for the plane last I remember

[snow kernel]

just need to be unlucky :)

[ashen cliff]

And forget to reboot the XP machine?

[marble lark]

planes and especially commercial ones are just too big (Mostly)

[marble lark]

well space has radiation levels that anything on earth pales in comparison to, to be fair

[ashen cliff]

That's why we call that "Industrial".

[marble lark]

[ashen cliff]

Just buy 3DFN128G08US8761 chips and you can chill for a bit, if they send the nukes.

Do make sure to get the Space version of the chip tho.

Can't be having some of that cheap "Industrial/Military" stuff.

@twin lagoon can we get one?

[twin lagoon]

Ok

[summer rivet]

are there software helping with that? I know police have this guys that can recover EVERYTHING

[ashen cliff]

Thanks.

To some extent.

[summer rivet]

is it insecure to store passwords in a normal not encrypted file?

[waxen panther]

low tier troll

[left swift]

broc moment

[summer rivet]

no its just the easiest way to store this stuff

[wide chasm]

!ban 696339037971021865 sexual image

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned ! SUS mate#6969 (sexual image) [1 total infraction] -- stefvanschie#7609.

[wide chasm]

That depends on whether you want passwords to be visible or not.

If it doesn't matter if other people know the passwords, then you can store them in plain text.

[summer rivet]

I mean im the only one using my computer and i trust the people that livei n the same rooms. Also there isnt realy something to take from me, im poor xD

[proud lance]

If you encrypt the drive I think you can store them on plaintext

[wide chasm]

Well, you think you're the only one using your computer.

Which may be true now, but may not be the case in the future.

In any case, if you're storing your own passwords, a password manager is generally recommended.

[summer rivet]

Im always stuck with that

when i opened the saved files from that programm it tells me nqhlhoqklriha

so if the program ever not working anymore...

[wide chasm]

(If someone else has taken over your computer, though, your passwords are a lost cause anyway.)

Some password managers generate public images that you can use to recover your passwords if the service ever happens to go down.

[proud lance]

Same can apply if you store your passwords Ina text file and it gets deleted or saved over

[summer rivet]

why should someone do that, i mean there is nothing i can give

[proud lance]

KeePass is locally hosted

[left swift]

damn I always look away for a few minutes and I miss the ban

[proud lance]

And you can just store the backup somewhere

[wide chasm]

These people generally don't target specific individuals, they just target large group that is easy to target.

[summer rivet]

uhm

[wide chasm]

If you get a fake phone call from Microsoft telling you your computer is broken, they didn't specifically target you, they just call as many people as possible.

[summer rivet]

can i just crypt my file with a program or something and if i wanna read it, i just encrypt it?

like with a programm to open it

and that i have a generall password for it

idk about this things

[proud lance]

KeePass does that

[wide chasm]

Yes, but again, a password manager behaves the same and is generally recommended over some self-made solution that's possibly insecure.

[summer rivet]

I have to manually create an entry for every login, its not just a file with some rows

[proud lance]

No

[summer rivet]

are we talking about the same?

[proud lance]

Import your passwords via csv

[summer rivet]

but my syntax is my own and not csv lol

[proud lance]

Copy it into a csv if you wanted

That's pretty trivial considering you are talking about encrypting text files or something

[summer rivet]

But if attacker realy want it they rather try to hack the password database of KeePass then searching my computer for files? Bc noone is so stupid to store that their (only me xD)

[proud lance]

KeePass has key auth and or password

You could put one key on a USB

And a spare somewhere on Google or something for backup

Or use something like Bitwarden instead of KeePass if you want it on a different computer entirely

[wide chasm]

The common password managers have been thoroughly checked, the chances for those to contain a security issue is generally much lower than some self-made solution.

[proud lance]

Your self made probably won't keep backups in the event of edits and if your shit gets corrupted during encryption glhf

[summer rivet]

It should work compeltely without network

[proud lance]

Bitwarden is self hosted

Run it on a docker instance if you wanted on the same machine

But for your use case KeePass is probably better

[ashen cliff]

The drives are encrypted at the hardware level by default. 🛌

[left swift]

[summer rivet]

I remind the time when i watched movies over dvd on my old computer together. I had 10-15fps of 24fps of the movie and when i tried to change the volume i got this nice loading symbol and everything got white-transparent vorground.

[left swift]

[summer rivet]

The great old times

[azure jacinth]

nostalgic

nostalgic is super

[summer rivet]

yes

but it did made me mad at the times but wondering now i have good reminders xDD

[azure jacinth]

YEAH SOMETIMES THINKING ABOUT OLD TIMES IS SAD BECUZ YOU KNOW IT WILL NOT COME BACK

[summer rivet]

that also :(

[azure jacinth]

YEAH

[summer rivet]

Well at least in java u can still play old versions

but its not the same bc u know the new ones

[azure jacinth]

i am bedrock ;[

[azure jacinth]

yeah

[summer rivet]

there are sus websites where u can download old editions

[azure jacinth]

SUSSY BAKA

I HAVE NEVER ATE TACOS,HOTDOG,FOOD FROM SUBWAY, NEVEER DRINK FROM STARBUCKS ETC

IM SAD

[twin lagoon]

Ok

@waxen panther thoughts

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

man what the fuck is this

[safe jackal]

maybe someone know plugin that remove all blocks placed by specified player when this player die? Only in specific area

[honest fulcrum]

uh

core protect

[safe jackal]

seriously?

[honest fulcrum]

it allows u to rollback actions made by a player

in a specified time

in a specified area

[safe jackal]

I want to do it automatically when this player die. I want to create a pvp arena when players can place blocks and these blocks dissapear when player die

[golden gust]

I mean, you'd basically need CO and then some other plugin to do that

[upbeat falcon]

Automatic Undo Management - ORACLE-BASE

https://oracle-base.com/articles/9i/automatic-undo-management

May 14, 2005 ... Automatic undo management requires a locally managed undo tablespace to store undo segments in. Undo tablespaces can be created during ...

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[honest fulcrum]

nvm

[golden gust]

idk if any such thing exists as it sounds stupidly niche

[honest fulcrum]

that was not it

sorry

;-;

[safe jackal]

this is my players idea - I want to do it for them, not for me

[honest fulcrum]

wait will i get banned for using commands here

[honest fulcrum]

wait so is this a hardcore server?

[golden gust]

so long as it's not for pointless spam and is relevant, no

if you're spamming it/being annoying, we will get out the cannon

[honest fulcrum]

also what counts as blocks placed by a player, like if a player lights a tnt and then dies whould the explosion be rolled back too?

what about creepers that the player ignited

[safe jackal]

no, it is just a survival server, no hardcore. But pvp arena is just a variety

[honest fulcrum]

so u wanna reset all actions made by a player once they die?

thats just rude

top 10 ways on how to lose players on ur server

[safe jackal]

only at arena area...

100x100

only there

[honest fulcrum]

wait whaaa

[safe jackal]

now there they can't do anything

[honest fulcrum]

OH

just use a duels plugin mate

all duels plugins do that

[safe jackal]

I didnt know

[honest fulcrum]

u wanna reset an arena after a pvp match

right?

[safe jackal]

yes but I want to players CAN place blocks there

[honest fulcrum]

yes yes

so

most duels plugins

do that

most minigames plugins too

[safe jackal]

oh, thanks a lot, I didnt know

[honest fulcrum]

also

if u have world edit, im fairly certain theres a way to ust setup command blocks to detect player deaths in a certain area and then paste the arena schematic automatically

although im not entirely sure on how that can be done

[honest fulcrum]

<3

[safe jackal]

no no, I am not using command blocks

I stick with duels plugin

[honest fulcrum]

someone like phoenix SC would know

[honest fulcrum]

ye do that its prolly more efficiient too

wait aikar is a person

i thought it was a bot

thats where that comes from

dam

[left swift]

no aikar is a dragon

[honest fulcrum]

oh

thanks for the clarification

[left swift]

yup

[void void]

[ This is a parody ]

If MCM paper skidders were honest

Hello there, my name is ShittyMCMSkidder and today I want to scam you.

I don't want a part of your money...

I want all of it, so thats why I made

ShitPaper - An outdated 1.8 fork with built in bullshit

Starting from 3000$ standard license

[left swift]

no one cares

[void void]

About your life.

[left swift]

about ur cringe fanfic

[void void]

I think you should marry yooniks.

You would be a great couple

[left swift]

didnt ask

[void void]

Ratio.

[little frost]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

pain

[rich elbow]

lower back pain

[left swift]

shu

[marble lark]

sexual image

that's a new one

[warm anchor]

Poor Sherman. No one calls him sexy

[marble lark]

no one in their right mind would

if they do it means they're a little crazy :)

[summer rivet]

What tool to get write and read speed of the disc? (windows)

[ashen cliff]

CrystalDiskMark.

[summer rivet]

I scanned it and its doing weird actions on my system and also flagged by antivir

Thats why i search another one

CrystalDiskMark may shorten SSD/USB Memory life. 😳

[ashen cliff]

Bruh.

[magic river]

Surprise, writing lots of data to your drive to measure how fast it can write will burn up write cycles

[full rune]

define "weird actions"

[left swift]

😳

[vernal moth]

Finally

And I didn't even pay customs this time?

Even tho there's a sticker on it?

[warm anchor]

Imagine paying custom. Can’t relate

[meager tusk]

Weeb opinion Ignored .

[warm anchor]

Idriz typing

[meager tusk]

+20% customs on anything tech related moment.

[radiant oriole]

Idriz typing

[summer rivet]

I downloaded it here: https://crystalmark.info/redirect.php?product=CrystalDiskMark

[void void]

Mine shipped today 👀

[vernal moth]

Mine took weeks to ship cause of the blizzard

[mossy vessel]

wooo

[left swift]

the indie company

[meager tusk]

Shut up, Kevin.

[vernal moth]

That was worth the wait

[left swift]

u know what else is worth the wait

[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w07a

[ionic trellis]

How can I convert &#fb9f1c&lW&#f6a81e&li&#f2b021&lo&#edb923&lc&#e8c125&lh&#e3ca27&la&#dfd22a&lM&#dadb2c&lC to only two hex colors?

[void void]

Use minimessage!

[crystal lily]

https://docs.adventure.kyori.net/

[ionic trellis]

Okay :)

[void void]

Damn you are fast

[rancid void]

we do a little trolling

[warm anchor]

Oh wow. Also do you like GoT?

[pastel reef]

ThE aRcHiVeS

[magic river]

woo, just got a $12,000 raise

[vernal moth]

And you came here to share some with the needy? 😂

(congrats!)

[magic river]

I was going to say you make more than me but you're in Germany so maybe not 😛

I don't make all that much for a US dev

[vernal moth]

Well, comparing wages is hard

Especially across the pond

I make enough to not having to think about money, so that's nice

But I live in a small flat and have like no expenses so that's also not a hard thing to achieve

[magic river]

Yeah, I have to pay insurance and stuff but my taxes are probably lower and so on so hard to compare

[vernal moth]

Plus currencies are a big difference and stuff, it makes really no sense

I'll get a raise this summer too tho and my boss promised it's gonna be more than last time so that's nice

[magic river]

I'm in the bottom 25% of software developers in the US

[vernal moth]

I am in the comfortable situation where I don't need to ask for one, he just announces it

[magic river]

Even after the raise

[vernal moth]

Why is that?

[magic river]

This job lets me get away with murder 😛

[potent panther]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-5000k-gif-20880260

[magic river]

Occasionally I have to do what is basically crunch time for 2-6 weeks but most of the time I can take it easy

[vernal moth]

Guess am in a similar situation then

I have a comfortable job, but still get to do cool stuff and move the company forward, but I earn less than I could be making elsewhere

A think am dead center average wise tho and am younger, but I think the spread is also way smaller in Germany and for you

I wouldn't trade this job for more money elsewhere, I would be way to scared that it's gonna be worse

[magic river]

I could live fairly comfortably making half of what I do

[vernal moth]

Perks of not living where rent is high I guess?

[magic river]

I just wouldn't be able to save enough to retire early and wouldn't be able to buy new toys or do stuff for my grandparents and such

Yeah, my house costs less than I make a year now

Well, the house is probably worth more now, market has been nuts for a few years

[vernal moth]

I wish I could buy property

[golden gust]

I mean, am currently in the joys of health issues and shit just doing part time to cope; defo need to sort shit out though

[vernal moth]

A smallish flat here now costs half a million euro

[golden gust]

but, like, i've been living on a short chunk of cash for a while, and when I get into a proper job, it's like, am used to living on little so, outside of catching up with some stuff and slowly working on making some of my wants in terms of entertainment, etc, am gonna be saving a good chunk of change even as a junior

shamefully my commercial experience is limited and am in a fun area where much is still kinda playing hide and seek from the virus

[vernal moth]

I suck at spending money

People took a month to convince me to buy that piano

[golden gust]

pretty much the same, it's part of why am kinda not sweatin too much as even in uni I kept my finances pretty tight bar the odd takeaway here and there

most people I knew on my course spent most of their cash first week they got it, meanwhile I got a grant from uni and was like, imma get an SSD I've been kinda wanting for a while to see if I can save my desktop for a little while longer 😄

[vernal moth]

Meanwhile I brought two ssds on black friday that are since sitting unopened on my desk

Because I can't get myself to organize my files and install them

[red timber]

i'll buy them

[magic river]

I can be really tight with my money, if I needed to I could survive on like $15,000 I think

[red timber]

same but 1/3 of that

[magic river]

But once I have money I don't do a good job of keeping it, so long as I know more is coming 😛

[wide chasm]

Pro tip on saving money, live with your parents 😉

[vernal moth]

That's less than minimum wage here amaranth

[magic river]

Like I'm still putting a lot of money in to savings, 401k, etc but I should probably be putting 50-100% more away

[vernal moth]

I suck at investing

[magic river]

I don't live alone

[red timber]

mini where did you invest last time

[vernal moth]

Like, I should invest half my income but idk how and I just like really hate the whole game, it disgusts me, so meh

I just have some dum ETFs and shit

[red timber]

i bought some $UPST yesterday

today it's +33%

[magic river]

I invest I think like 35% of my income

[limber knot]

just buy GME all the time

[vernal moth]

Thanks for your insight

[golden gust]

licks mini

[limber knot]

my other advice would be to just give it to me (or cat is fine too) so would that be better? :P

[plucky plaza]

bois, I just made something impossible

rarest thing

omgomgmgomgomgmomg

ihueur85oij6e087n4

[warm anchor]

Ok

[twin lagoon]

ok

[plucky plaza]

This is what the devs fear the most

[south matrix]

the f being lowercase?

scaary

[plucky plaza]

No, the words forge and Velocity together

[timber sentinel]

Ok

[plucky plaza]

Im not even joking

noice

What version?

i meant mc version

[warm anchor]

I still don’t get what’s so special about this. Is this what being too old feel like?? @twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

latest forge versions don't play well with proxies

[plucky plaza]

The mc version is probably before the great division between the devs at forge and Velocity/Waterfall

Ancient

yeah, ok. lol

But that was not my main point

[charred sleet]

wtf

[plucky plaza]

yes, yes, yes. BINGO!

And, that's why what I posted is rare AF right now

[twin lagoon]

^

[plucky plaza]

yeah, about that

I blame the modpacks

Ik that. I have had a couple of conversations with them myself. Almost got banned

They get upset when you ping them while responding to a message

Forgot it was on and they punched me with their no ping mod rule

They hate maintenance

Like people who can't take care of a pet

Anyways, my fork requires no change to forge whatsoever. If you need to have a forge server behind a proxy so you can use like a version connector/loadbalancer, permisson plugin.

[golden gust]

1.9+ was a tech debt issue

[plucky plaza]

To avoid any interaction with that dev team

[golden gust]

or,w ait, no, that was later on

In general it's a small team and a lot of stuff going on in the community

many dozens of factors, etc

I mean

the entire game changed how the world was handled

[ashen cliff]

Thanks 1.13.

[plucky plaza]

Well, MC did also change a lot in 1.13

[golden gust]

how tf do you think that that is not gonna involve large breakages when the entire foundation of the game massively changes?

forge also doesn't ass kiss on legacy crud like spigot does

so, yea, breakages happen, especially during large core updates

You're lucky in some respects that spigot cares much more about backwards compat rather than actually moving the ecosystem forwards

downfall is that now we're, as predicted by us years ago, are now paying the price

[warm anchor]

You will have to ask the famous orange slime

[golden gust]

Material.

everything enum related.

"We can'ttouch that cos we'd break 7 year old plugins"

legacy chat still being the 1st party chat mechanism

[warm anchor]

Once again 1.8 user ruins everything

[glass crag]

empty item stacks being null 🙄

[spare venture]

but my pcp

pvp

[warm anchor]

Can you make it for 1.8?

[glass crag]

i stopped playing mc in like 1 .12

came back in 1.17 and couldnt believe what i saw with these resource packs

[plucky plaza]

Ok people, What was your first mc version?

curius

[spare venture]

nice try account hacker

bet you wanna know my mother’s maiden name too

[smoky cloud]

wat

[plucky plaza]

shit

[warm anchor]

Yeah I was pretending to be your average 1.8 server owner

[spare venture]

“when did you buy the game, just wondering!”

“the exact day!”

[plucky plaza]

Imagine still running 1.8

[glass crag]

idk what version it was but i remember the nether being added

[timber sentinel]

my favourite thing about the material enum is how it stalls intellij for a minute or so sometimes

[spare venture]

that was october of 2010

the halloween update

[plucky plaza]

Basically bc people like 1.8 pvp

[smoky cloud]

I love developing RSI

[spare venture]

This is not something that a 1.8 server owner will be capable of

Suure

Suuuuuure

It’s been obvious since 1.9 that the future is not 1.8

They have resource pack stuff

Correct, minigames servers are very different than other servers

[golden gust]

joy for stuff like texture packs is getting a full team to work together

Like, hypickle has a lot going for them in that they have a good team of people whom can work on various different aspects to pool into a single project where as most servers don't even have devs

but, I mean, in terms of what they can already do, until mojang moves forward with much other stuff, there just ain't too much of a massive reason to cull older versions out yet

[spare venture]

Bring back spout

Resource packs are shit

Even realms have a better system

Roblox

[potent wedge]

Im reading the discord docs and I cant even find a hint of how to send a message -_-

[warm anchor]

I mean you just did??

[lilac moon]

probably mean using webhooks

for that it would be https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/webhook#execute-webhook

[void void]

Or for regular messages sent from a bot: https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/channel#create-message

Discord API docs are pretty great

[potent wedge]

I meant a discord bot and thanks, I checked everywhere on the docs but there lol

[rare python]

Why mojang.

WHY

[lilac moon]

what am i looking at

[rare python]

net.minecraft.world.level.block.entity.BlockEntity

[lilac moon]

whats wrong with it

[rare python]

those functions

are stupid

[golden gust]

some other logic hooks into that

I mean, is meh, but, I mean, in the sheme of things

[rare python]

But why make it protected if your gonna have those functions?

It's so pointless.

[golden gust]

make what protected?

oh, the field

[rare python]

The boolean its changing is protected

[golden gust]

cos, other stuff uses it down the chain

could they have just used the getter? yea, sure, but 🤷‍♂️

[rare python]

Yes, but you can set it to whatever with a public function, so it is effectively public.

[golden gust]

!ban @wispy sinew This is not the place for advertising

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned Linear#2794 (This is not the place for advertising) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

[untold meadow]

what's stopping them from adding additional logic in the remove/clear/etc methods

either there or in overidden methods

[golden gust]

they do

[untold meadow]

well then that's why they do it then

[golden gust]

at least the beacon overrides setRemoveed to play the noise

typing woo

[untold meadow]

problem solved peter :')

[golden gust]

every usage of the field other than those methods is a read

so, yea, they coulda made it private but didn't, not really a sin people care too much about

[true canyon]

Anyone have an example of a Paper-only plugin on DBO?

[rare python]

DBO?

[glass crag]

dev.bukkit.org

[potent wedge]

I just realized you can homehost discord bots lets goooo

crap my pi is dead

crap tis' not restarting

THE MICRO HDMI CABLE IS GONE AAAAAAA

[bold dove]

can i post a gofund me link for my robotics team

[proud lance]

no lol

[potent wedge]

no

found it 🙂

[boreal cradle]

wheres the pencil bot source

[upbeat falcon]

The New York Times has changed Wordle's solutions - The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/15/22934587/wordle-solutions-changed-new-york-times

2 days ago ... And surely for a game all about guessing words this counts as a change to gameplay. Warning: spoilers for the non-NYT version of Wordle follow.

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Global Selector | Cat | Caterpillar

https://www.cat.com/global-selector.html

CAT LOGO. Welcome! Select a region and language to continue. Select a Region, Africa, Middle-East, Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Eurasia, Europe ...

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[magic river]

So if cloud gaming needs completely custom hardware and Google's supposed cloud supremacy hasn't resulted in a single tangible market advantage, isn't the company just a hardware vendor? It isn't selling the gaming PC; customers are renting it. Therefore, won't the best cloud gaming company just be a gaming PC hardware company?

For Exhibit A of this argument, let's look at Nvidia's GeForce Now, which is absolutely smoking Google Stadia with the GeForce Now 3080 package. Unlike Google's three-year-old mid-range PCs, Nvidia is rocking state-of-the-art performance that's on par with one of the fastest video cards money can buy.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/02/google-should-kill-stadia/

[magic river]

The clock is ticking for Google Cloud.

The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Amazon or Microsoft—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding.
https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-2023-as-deadline-to-beat-amazon-microsoft-in-cloud

Stadia is basically dead, they're trying to pivot it to a GCP service, but they might be killing off GCP soon too

[spare venture]

what even is google stadia

[magic river]

midrange PCs from 2019 that you can rent to play games on

But they're Linux PCs running a custom stack so the games have to be ported to them

One of the biggest problems with Stadia (and now Google Stream)—and one that Google doesn't seem to understand—is that Google's reputation for killing products is poison for a service like this. Gamers don't want to invest in Stadia, because they are afraid Google will kill it and they'll lose all their purchases. Game developers probably don't want to build for Google Stream because they're worried about Google's cloud gaming division shutting down. The situation has become a self-fulfilling prophecy, where nobody uses the product because they're afraid of it being shut down, and it gets shut down because nobody uses it.

This will be the death of Google, some day

[little frost]

idk, it sorta makes sense from what i heard, i.e. google obviously can't be a successful participant in the game market and they shut down their independent studio stuff real fast, so they could instead sell their technology to other companies which do have a presence and actual experience in the market

[merry talon]

the hell? this is just not realistic

the gap between GCP and AWS is massive

[magic river]

The gap between GCP and Azure isn't as large

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/KHE9VGyE7FFtiQ8hnamplOaSNzsS_gIa.jpg

[shrewd portal]

there is absolutely no way that gcp is getting shut down

anyone who says gcp is getting shut down is out of their mind

[magic river]

I don't think they're going to overtake Azure any time soon though

[merry talon]

ms also has the advantage of extreme vendor lock in with AD

[shrewd portal]

yeah but there's no chance it's getting shut down

[magic river]

Apparently they were considering shutting it down in 2018

[shrewd portal]

serious doubt

[merry talon]

I've found gcp to be miles ahead of competitors in certain specific areas

and then the rest of it is just shit

[magic river]

It sounds like back then they weren't profitable and estimated they wouldn't be unless they beat at least Azure

So maybe if they're profitable now while still in third place they'll be fine

[shrewd portal]

idk i haven't seen any part of gcp that i abjectly dislike

they're better than everyone at networking, file storage, compute, and databases

[magic river]

If they aren't making money and aren't gaining marketshare obviously they'll kill it

[merry talon]

i hate their iam

with a passion

[shrewd portal]

what is wrong with their iam

tf

it's like the best implemntation there is

[merry talon]

it just seems complex for no reason

[shrewd portal]

it's not complex, it's granular

the core idea is clear

and if you find it complex just use roles?

[radiant oriole]

iam is "complex" because it's designed so organizations with a focus on security can lock down their permissions to exactly what is necessary and not one thing more. If you can't see the value in that, then you're not the target user of the tool.

[merry talon]

no no, that's not what I'm trying to say

1 sec

[proud lance]

IAM is pretty sweet once you get the hang of it, I love it

[merry talon]

yeah so there's just no way to auth with a key and secret or anything similar, you need a whole armored private key in json and shit

[shrewd portal]

ok and?

[merry talon]

like it's just needlessly... annoying

[radiant oriole]

that's how you keep things secure and performant

[shrewd portal]

they feed you a manifest you can plug into the library you're using

i don't understand

what your issue is here

[radiant oriole]

I don't get what the problem is with having a json file with a plaintext key in it over just having a plaintext key

[merry talon]

maybe I don't want to import a 300mb SDK to just make an api call? idk

[radiant oriole]

you don't have to?

you can implement authentication yourself, you don't have to use their SDKs for it

it's simple enough

[shrewd portal]

extremely doubt the sdk is 300mb

but if it is who cares

[merry talon]

no it's literally not simple having to provide 11 lines of json versus like 2 headers

by definition

[radiant oriole]

how is it any more complicated?

[merry talon]

I give up

[shrewd portal]

yeah saying pki is the same complexity as a token is...not true

[radiant oriole]

ok you have to make an HMAC signature

it's like 3 lines of code in most languages

what gives

[shrewd portal]

anyways

the gcp library is 15MB go

im sure it can probably be slimmed down

but its close enough to just not matter

[merry talon]

honestly not even the point I'm trying to make, it just makes writing a quick and dirty script to do something way more difficult when I need to like lug this key file around or have some sort of KV store to provide it, or mess with oauth

when the alternative is just 2 environment variables

[shrewd portal]

if you want quick and dirty just gcloud login and then script the gcloud cli?

idk dude

[merry talon]

u want me to do that in a container

[magic river]

container and quick and dirty don't or at least shouldn't go together

[merry talon]

I just want another option, even if it's less secure?

or like with cron and my cli session expires or some shit

[shrewd portal]

pass your gcloud file as a configmap or something?

like this is easy

[magic river]

Although my container is built and uploaded to ACR by just logging in to the CLI in the CI script so... 😄

[shrewd portal]

im sympathetic to not wanting to figure out pki in a bash script

[magic river]

I love how every time Ben Shapiro is trending on Twitter people post the Aquaman clip

[charred oracle]

Because of the storm raging outside, my parents have told me to stay home and also according to the radio the classes seem to be suspended.

[raven basin]

I dont get it is it supposed to be offensive to him?

[magic river]

A lot of people cite it as the reason they realized Ben Shapiro was generally full of shit

[raven basin]

Thats dumb I think hes a cool guy although I dont agree with everything he says

[magic river]

Throwing facts, data, and records at them didn't work but giving them a funny skit did it 😄

[sullen shore]

MAIQUENNN can someone help me with this word puzzle ? What could this word be ?

[magic river]

mannequin?

[raven basin]

Its annoying whenever theres a shootout outside your house its so gosh damn annoying

[magic river]

Uh

[raven basin]

Like theres just kids shooting guns and killing each other outside my house every so often

[south matrix]

at least it's not in your house

[ashen cliff]

I guess, but filling up the bullet holes gets annoying.

https://posili.me/i/w3tj2dDM-2022-02-17_07-48-56.png

So... what happened?

[vernal moth]

Did he like get confirmation from all contributors? Lol

But fun to see somebody who has a deep hatred for Microsoft (but works for Microsoft) use a Microsoft licence

[merry talon]

honestly microsoft is so large that it seems strange to me to have an opinion on the whole

like fuck the windows part, but ❤️ the OSS part

[vernal moth]

Buuuuut mah M$!!!!

And nooooo, you can't make an informed contextual decision that's illegal sweepy

We live in a black and white world, it's either all good or all cancelled!

[merry talon]

my bad

[vernal moth]

Elon musk has a questionable personality as such everything he touches must be bad and cheering to SpaceX success makes you a musk fan

Oh and eula enforcement is leftist btw if you guys haven't heard

[ashen cliff]

Maybe his hand got forced?

Just like Google forbids their workers from touching projects using certain licenses?

[magic river]

https://i.imgur.com/XLuaF0h.png

[ashen cliff]

I think that Oracle only has 1 Eng branch currently.

[smoky cloud]

They only have one Cloud engineer

Which explains how nearly all of their hypervisors ran out of storage one night

[short harness]

Anyone knows if with the move to mirosoft account there is an oauth flow to get some user data like minecraft username & email?
My goal is to create a website where user can link their minecraft account 🙂 So I can either do that with a code system on a plugin, or if it exist an oauth flow from the microsoft account so it's easier to set up 😄

[tropic flame]

so... the GPLv3?

what the heck was their license before?

oh wait i remember, it was Apache

there's now a fork called PolyMC, pre-license change

[ashen cliff]

Not even a direct fork.

So PolyMC jsut added a "random" license ignoring the original MultiMC one?

[tropic flame]

i mean, their Apache license is not viral

only their changes are under the GPLv3 as they chose

[ashen cliff]

Alright.

[tropic flame]

and I'd rather go for the GPLv3 than a Microsoft-written license

[vernal moth]

Multimc was apache licence

And relicensed without asking contributors

So basically the new licence is invalid I guess, lmao

The more I look at multimc the more cursed everything is

Am glad I don't rely on that shit

[turbid pier]

I have been using it for years, the first issue I've had with it is that it likes to sign me out quite frequently, but this might be a Mojang issue 😛
What launcher do you use?

[charred sleet]

vanilla

[marble lark]

windows is kinda ok if you're not a dev tbh

Visual Studio and MSVC are fucking awful though

[twin lagoon]

multimc as a launcher works great

questionable author but it is what it is

[vernal moth]

my own one but most of the time the official one

my launcher was the first to support MSA 💪