general

[tropic flame]

[night parcel]

cracked

illegal server

[tropic flame]

the server ain't illegal, my users are 😎

btw /s stands for "sarcasm"

[tropic flame]

there was some paperchan meme with this sentence, hence the joke

[golden gust]

GH pays for payment processing, iirc

but, on OC, we use a collective thing which manages some stuff for us whom take a cut for taxes and to pay their accountants, etc

[void void]

hm

do you happen to know if that 133% fee GH is charging is a one time thing?

[golden gust]

I've never heard of that

[void void]

also it says "next payment" is today

eh I'll just use OC

[foggy veldt]

I wonder if Mojang will ever do that thing like discord just started doing where they sponsor open source projects that help them out

Because paper and (don’t kill me) spigot keep mc alive, I don’t think Minecraft would be half the game it is without bukkit plugins

[quick pasture]

Task.ContinueWith?

[void void]

didn't mojang sponsor bukkit basically

after the lead dev tried to discontinue it

[rare python]

They should just open source Java edition.

Would be great.

[neat oyster]

No thats a bad idea

[rare python]

How so?

[neat oyster]

because it would basically mean mojang will die

[rare python]

Nah

[void void]

probably not likely if they want to maintain java/bedrock parity

[rare python]

They would still have control

[mild python]

theres no way to achieve this just with utilizing await?

[quick pasture]

doesnt it return a new task which combines both?

so you can just use await on it?

[glass crag]

const b = await bAsync();
const c = await cAsync();

[mild python]

no these are two separate tasks. currently im just doing

_ = await a.btask
the b task modifies some properties inside a object, which are then used in c task
var c = await a.ctask

im just wondering if i can oneline this

i also dont really care about the btask result.

[glass crag]

i wouldnt one-line it tbh

leave out const b =

or var b =

await bAsync();
var c = await cAsync();

[fossil gazelle]

Isint paper server ded until new update comes

[smoky cloud]

No

[neat oyster]

No , ppl com for support

[rare python]

Quiet, yes. Dead, no. People come for help, and just discussion in general.

[rare python]

wat

[warm anchor]

ok

[smoky cloud]

[simple karma]

indeed

tbh what i prefer is a dedi instead of using some cloud services

it makes me feel that i have full control

[void void]

they're targeted at diff audiences

[simple karma]

sometimes it is not possible to make a vm, because their servers are full

i had that situation one time

but they restock them

[fickle wing]

Free is still free

[void void]

cloud services like the ones mentioned are mostly selling the fact that you have easy access and integration to their other services, and easy scaling

[smoky cloud]

Uh surely a dedi provider can run out of physical servers?

[dapper pumice]

damn.. I didn't even know about this channel O_O was only watching the paper channels XD

[smoky cloud]

With the cloud I can configure an entire network in a few minutes using Terraform

[void void]

yeah, completely different usecase than dedis target

[smoky cloud]

A dedi would probably take longer

Bare metal cloud is a thing now

[void void]

and chances of the specific type you want being available aren't gonna be too high

[smoky cloud]

I could get a bare metal ARM server from Oracle

[simple karma]

bruh

why is minimum boot volume size 50GB...

[smoky cloud]

Dunno

[simple karma]

like

i dont need more than 20

[void void]

your first 200gb of block storage is free anyways

[smoky cloud]

So really you get four instances

[simple karma]

looks like yea

welp

looks like i need to do 100/50/50

[smoky cloud]

…why?

[simple karma]

100 for 24GB machine
50 for 1GB
50 for another 1GB

[smoky cloud]

You don’t need to use all 200GB

[simple karma]

unused resources are wasted resources hehe

[void void]

it's either or I think

[smoky cloud]

Provisioning resources you don’t need is a bigger waste

[simple karma]

my servers will use 100GB storage

[smoky cloud]

That’s rule #1 of the cloud

Well okay then

[simple karma]

like

minecraft worlds are huge

[smoky cloud]

I’m sure everyone here is aware

[simple karma]

im very sad about that minimum 50GB limit

thats a waste

i guess ill use them also as single backup vms

[smoky cloud]

The 10GB object storage dries up fast

I think I’m using 70GB

[simple karma]

that 10gb hmm

that could be used for server database backups

or something else

[smoky cloud]

inb4 “use google drive 4head”

[simple karma]

already used my 1 year

time goes fast

oooh

google drive

[smoky cloud]

I think the free tier has a database service

[warm anchor]

my fellow Oracle free tier enjoyer

[simple karma]

eternity

you cant have 6 vms

because minimum storage size is 50GB per vm

[smoky cloud]

Average AWS fan vs average OCI Free Tier enjoyer

[warm anchor]

oh bummer

[smoky cloud]

I mean

[simple karma]

amazon always free is super poor

[smoky cloud]

Four VM’s for free is still pretty good

[smoky cloud]

Their paid stuff isn’t great

[simple karma]

sad

oracle cloud terminal doesnt support ohmyfish well

[smoky cloud]

wat

[simple karma]

this

it has autocomplete etc etc

[void void]

do you need both micro x86 instances?

[smoky cloud]

You know you can install the CLI locally right?

[void void]

you could run everything on your A1 instance

[simple karma]

thats what i do lol

[smoky cloud]

The x86 ones are shit

[void void]

so it gets full 200gb

[simple karma]

but those 2 gigs of ram :((

[smoky cloud]

They’re like 12.5% of an Epyc core

[void void]

mhm

also another 200gb of block storage is only $5/mo

soo

[simple karma]

enough to run smal web servers

[smoky cloud]

You also have to factor in the VPU’s but they’re cheap af

[void void]

your A1 instance is gonna have spare capacity for web servers too tho

[smoky cloud]

My A1 runs a small Nginx instance

[void void]

how are the VPUs priced?

[smoky cloud]

Like a few cents

[void void]

per GB?

[simple karma]

google one gives you that for like 2$

[void void]

block storage

?

or object storage

[smoky cloud]

I can’t remember of the top of my head but it’s cheap

[simple karma]

google drive storage

[smoky cloud]

That’s object, not block

[void void]

block storage is much faster than web/object storage

[simple karma]

gotcha

[void void]

and more stable

[smoky cloud]

Also $2 for 5GB of object is abysmal

[void void]

if you want the cheapest obj storage you can get 1tb for $5/mo from backblaze/wasabi

you can mount it with one of the S3 mounters and use it for storing backups or something

[simple karma]

where

[smoky cloud]

Well Google Drive isn’t actually object storage

It’s just close

You’re effectively paying for the fancy client and UI

[void void]

google's official object storage is $5/mo for 250gb

which is the industry standard basically

not including egress costs, which google loves to charge buttloads for

[smoky cloud]

Google moment

[worn ember]

how do things like this keep happening to me lol

spotify be like

[silver nexus]

Happened to me too

[lilac zephyr]

Idk if cloudflare’s bandwith alliance could help with that

[karmic sandal]

Hi

[smoky cloud]

That would mean your objects would have to be public which is

[real saddle]

Hloo

Is there any way to knock back people if they stand near a npc for a custom amount of time

[glass crag]

are you asking for dev help or a plugin suggestion

[real saddle]

I want to stop people crowding near npcs and other players cant click it

I need a solution for it

Plugin or anything

[left swift]

put multiple so they dont block one

[real saddle]

What no

[left swift]

ok

[neat oyster]

i have a funi remix but if i post im sure to get banned

[left swift]

post it

[glass crag]

bucket of water/pistons

[real saddle]

\🤯 public server

[left swift]

go to syscraft for ur questions

[real saddle]

What is syscraft??

[neat oyster]

NO

it has german man

[left swift]

a discord for the reddit syscraft

[half escarp]

servers with ai bots are weird, they are smart but still so dumb lol

[neat oyster]

and 24k goldn

at the same time

[left swift]

that server admins use

[real saddle]

Let me check

Any way for multi bungee??

[twin lagoon]

you've been answered before

redisbungee

[real saddle]

tutorials needed

[twin lagoon]

if you need a tutorial, you don't need multi proxy

[real saddle]

Ineed it ineed to connect another proxy to ur grp

[twin lagoon]

what

what exactly are you looking for

[real saddle]

I cant let them acces our proxy need sperate proxies

[waxen panther]

mutli spigot multi bungee multi michael

[real saddle]

Just need to go to 2 different servers frm a hub

[void void]

I believe GCP is one of the supported platforms, but idk how it works

[real saddle]

Both are maintained by 2 people

Any tutorials etc etc

[left swift]

he_ad hunt_er

[real saddle]

Ys

[real saddle]

??

[golden gust]

any tutorials

I mean

it's a plugin.

You install redis

you configure the plugin to use that redis instance

????

[real saddle]

I dnt know how redis work and how to do with that plugin any wiki pages will be hlp full noob frndly pages

[golden gust]

Google.

If you can't put 1+1 together, maybe this isn't for you.

We're not gonna hold your hand

[real saddle]

Its difficult for noobs to understand things

[golden gust]

noobs

I mean

Then this is above your experince grade

idk wat you're expecting from us

[smoky cloud]

Perhaps learn to walk before you run

[golden gust]

But we're not gonna fucking play google for you

[real saddle]

Np

[left swift]

hi cat

[real saddle]

Sometimes we may need to run before we can walk. Im affected by covid-19 and i cant google for a long time thats why i asked here cus 1000's of people are here may be 1 or 2 know the ans

[left swift]

[golden gust]

I've LITERALLY explained

It's literally two major steps

I broke it down for you

[real saddle]

Ya i got it

[left swift]

[golden gust]

I can't google for long

Once again

tf do you expect us to do?

There are probs 2000 guides out there on how to install redis

[real saddle]

Ya im checking it

What i need is a vid tutorial cant find crct 1

[dapper pumice]

you need to understand, not just follow blind a tutorial-video

[left swift]

it's ok u can just check the dislikes if the video is bad

[rare tiger]

its really easy to tell when someone has no idea what the code they copied actually does

there'll be random changes in formatting and strange variable names

especially when the solution is just frankensteining together 8 different stack overflow answers

[magic river]

Abridged history of Elon's self-driving predictions:

2015: "We’re going to end up with complete autonomy, and I think we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years."
2016: "I really consider autonomous driving a solved problem, I think we are less than two years away from complete autonomy, safer than humans, but regulations should take at least another year."
2018: "I think probably by end of next year (2019) self-driving will encompass essentially all modes of driving and be at least 100% to 200% safer than a person."
2019: "We need to be at 99.9999..% We need to be extremely reliable. When do we think it is safe for FSD, probably towards the end of this year then its up to the regulators when they will decide to approve that."
2019: "I feel very confident predicting autonomous robotaxis for Tesla next year."
2020: "I am extremely confident of achieving full autonomy and releasing it to the Tesla customer base next year. But I think at least some jurisdictions are going to allow full self-driving next year."
2021: "Tesla Full Self-Driving will work at a safety level well above that of the average driver this year, of that I am confident. Can’t speak for regulators though."

[limber knot]

I mean, he originally didn't specify on what kind of road the car would drive fully autonmous

[rare tiger]

cant wait for hyperloop in 2069

[magic river]

German court says using Google Fonts API is illegal because it shares the users IP address with Google without consent, EU study says due to US spying laws (FISA and such) it's illegal to send EU citizen data to the US unless it's strongly encrypted, therefore it's illegal to send an EU citizen's IP address to a US server

Or for an ISP to route EU data through the US to get to anywhere else

[limber knot]

gotta love that finally some people at the top are realising what I have been saying (and trying to practice) for years lol

[neat oyster]

hmm then eu ppl cant play us mc servers lmao

or im dum

prolly second option

[limber knot]

if the user consents to that by actively browsing there then it's not an isue

[neat oyster]

ah i see

the terms and condition no one reads similar

to it

[limber knot]

the good technical step in the right direction would be blocking of resources that get loaded from third-party domains the the user didn't browse to

(something that I do in my browser but it's not default behaviour so 99.9% of users that don't know better will have their data extracted without their consent)

[magic river]

If they go to your server directly that's implied consent for you to at least get the IP address because that's how the internet works

Just make sure you don't send it to another server

Oh, and maybe don't store it, that gets tricky

[limber knot]

now the question becomes: are sub domains allowed or not? lol

[magic river]

People in /r/programming are trying to argue browsers should enforce GDPR

It's the same end result though, you can't use Google Fonts API

So they're just being lazy and hoping they can blame the browser for their website not working in the EU without them having to do any work, I guess

[limber knot]

I mean you actually can enforce it in browsers, it's just not enabled by default

[rare tiger]

LocalCDN or Localeyes exists I guess

Sadly it breaks sites so I add an exception for google fonts

[magic river]

Whether the website stops tracking you or all browsers break their tracking it's the same end result

Right now only people who know about it are willing to put up with handling breakage go the browser route

But if these folks got their way browsers would do that by default and wouldn't be allowed to let you turn it off to work around breakage

[neat oyster]

yea if they join it means they give consent for safety ima add that their ip will shared with me in a spoiler near ip

[magic river]

So they aren't winning anything here, they'd still have to fix their websites

[rare tiger]

😳 our numbers grow

[neat oyster]

[rare tiger]

I have a few websites that use google fonts, I can just stop being lazy and host the fonts locally 😔

[magic river]

It's not like you get a cache savings or something from using Google's copy

[rare tiger]

Also the adobe font bank service, may or may not be doing something similar

[magic river]

Browser cache is per-domain to avoid timing attacks or cache poisoning

[rare tiger]

main.css?<?php echo time(); ?>

9000IQ strats 🧠

[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w05a

[neat oyster]

nice

i see you are a mc player

[hexed dragon]

I am a bot.

[neat oyster]

i knew it

cuz no one here is interested in playing mc

but you are

so you must be a bot no doubt

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[half escarp]

On a network how can i let lobbies know info about other servers without need of plugin messaging

Im new to redis idk if redis can do that

Or maybe can do it with mysql

I also need them to be obtained fast

[tropic flame]

am I no one? 👀

granted, i mostly only play modded nowadays, but you still have people who boot up the game here

[magic river]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/02/rotterdam-bridge-to-be-dismantled-so-jeff-bezos-yacht-can-pass-through/

I feel like the obvious answer here is to take the yacht apart 😄

Like, they say the mast is too tall so... take it off?

[neat oyster]

susi most ppl boot up the game lol i mean like playing like survival or creative building or modded like you but according to my judgement (im dum) most ppl here open mc to test their servers or plugins

[tropic flame]

and i think you're right about your judgement :p

i still do play though

usually in intensive bursts and then i leave the game for a while and repeat

[simple karma]

reject nft's

embrance ssh randomart

[neat oyster]

i also do :p that but the problem is i hate to play alone lol when me and my friends get a lil time together we play on random servers (not mine ) and grind till we have some stuff then quit for a while

but me or my friends are busy most of the time so i jus cant play

[worn crest]

they fixed MC-4533 bug since 2012

[ashen cliff]

Oh no.

I did actually like that. 🛌

[left swift]

krusic, average bug enjoyer

[ashen cliff]

Fact.

Is it a bug or a design decision? No one can tell.

[rare tiger]

I didn't even know it was a bug

[left swift]

[rare tiger]

I thought it was intentional lol

I've used it in builds

Hopefully the mechanics are still the same

Probably not q-q

[ashen cliff]

Just add more block states.

water[bugged=true] to restore the old look.

[wide chasm]

Just throw data packs at it

[foggy elbow]

mojang fixed this in latest snapshot
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-22w05a

this was already fixed in paper ?

[magic river]

I think that's just a generic "some things get a chunk marked as dirty so the server keeps adding them to the save queue" thing

It seems redstone machines do it too

iirc vanilla already had a rate limiter for how much chunks to try to save each tick and paper makes it configurable but that won't help with a single chunk writing constantly

For that you'd need some kind of a debounce

But there is at least a limit to how bad it can be and it won't stop normal chunk updates from getting saved

[silver nexus]

GitHub giving 500s for anyone else?

[fallen oracle]

Yeah

Was just going to ask.

[warm anchor]

Dw it’s just snowstorm in US

[silver nexus]

Yeah my school announced no school for the next two days which is nice.

[wide chasm]

GitHub status is now showing degraded performance as well

Oh, upped to incident

[warm anchor]

Maybe someone forgot to close the door https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatLookedExpensive/comments/rwz5p9/mistakes_were_made_mining_farm_in_russia/

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Mistakes were made… Mining Farm in Russia : ThatLookedExpensive - 293 comments, 5,488 points - LSD25hoffmans-potion, 27d ago

[topaz mortar]

jup dead

[warm anchor]

Mini what you did

[vernal moth]

Good bot!

.lart @warm anchor

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

[vernal moth]

Fuck

Literally untouchable

[warm anchor]

[silver nexus]

Lmao

[plucky sparrow]

.lart EterNity

[limber knot]

tattoos the Windows symbol on EterNity's ass.

[plucky sparrow]

oh that’s

cruel

[simple karma]

i just yeeted iptables

who needs that

[twin lagoon]

good

now you have nftables

[simple karma]

okay real question tho

is it better to run firewall on server, or on cloud service (oracle) or it doesnt rly matter

[twin lagoon]

single server? firewall on server

[simple karma]

aka security list vs iptables

[twin lagoon]

a million cloud servers? security list

[simple karma]

gotcha

but performance-wise nothing right?

[twin lagoon]

the security list is in theory probably faster

but it's not something you'd notice

[simple karma]

yeah thats my thought

since its like 1 level lower

iptables would give me more options i guess

[smoky cloud]

Oracle instances also have NSG's if you want rules just for the one instance

Security lists apply to an entire VCN

[twin lagoon]

god why can cloud services not stick to the same naming

[simple karma]

yeah....

i wasted enough time looking for a way to modify oracle firewall just to realize its not firewall but ⭐ security list ⭐

[smoky cloud]

You can set the security list to allow all and get the NSG to do the filtering

[simple karma]

i wouldnt use a cloud service anyway, but since its free i use it lol

i put my vm internal ip if i want to add specific rule to it right?

also why does sharex make my flux stronger

[smoky cloud]

No that's the IP you want to allow in

[simple karma]

isnt that the one tho?

[smoky cloud]

Wait

I'm being dumb

[simple karma]

oh sorry

i also did a flop

this i mean

[smoky cloud]

Destination port range would be the port range on the server

Source port range should be all

Source CIDR should be 0.0.0.0/0 if you want to allow all

[simple karma]

all clients or all servers

[smoky cloud]

Clients

[simple karma]

gorcha

[smoky cloud]

Is that the security list or NSG?

[simple karma]

security list

whats the full name of nsg

cant find it

[smoky cloud]

Network Security Group

[simple karma]

uhh i cant find it

nevermind got it

[smoky cloud]

It’s only useful if you want specific rules for an individual instance

[simple karma]

now how do i add vm to that group

[smoky cloud]

I think you do it from the instance config

Idk all my OCI stuff goes through Terraform

Also remember that if you add an NSG to an instance then everything except what is in the NSG gets blocked

[simple karma]

okay i found it

the way the settings are hidden is sad

[smoky cloud]

It’s bloody awful

[wispy grail]

someone else that's having this? the black infinity effect from the end just gets changed into the server logo

it's just vanilla minecraft, no texture pack or client

[magic river]

GPU dying 😄

[void void]

I've had some issues where textures and server icons were just randomly replaced with something else in the past aswell

pretty sure there was a mojira issue for it

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-181280

[glass crag]

Yes! Sometimes a block of 10 will just repeat

[native wolf]

Both YouTube and Reddit have the same issue for a loooong time now

[warm anchor]

This looks so cool I want it

[worn ember]

thank you steam, very cool

[foggy elbow]

this game is good as benchmark for your computer lol

[warm anchor]

[abstract aspen]

Almost done with this.

[glass crag]

Beautiful

[foggy elbow]

with this view it's insane, but like always when you are in singleplayer first personn, this doesn't look that cool

[waxen panther]

Sez u

[little frost]

:chatting:

[spare venture]

got my rent increase notice 😄
$1589 -> $1805, $2,326 if I wanted to have a month to month term

[warm anchor]

It’s ok barty makes big boy money now

Should buy a van so you can do #VanLife

[worn ember]

really starting to sound like a good option these days

literally impossible to buy a house in current market

[foggy veldt]

Just live in a library at a local college

People won’t notice that you haven’t taken a shower in months if you sit near the CS students

[spare venture]

van life doesnt work so well when you need to shower

[magic river]

You live too close to Seattle 😛

[spare venture]

ehhh

i live like 30 mins outside of seattle

[merry talon]

Always gives me whiplash when I remember you guys don't have the laws protecting renters as we do in canada

[wraith trail]

there are local rent control laws, but they're by city pretty much

and i'm not really sure of anywhere where they have exactly the intended effect

[worn ember]

@warm anchor ranked been going great

[abstract aspen]

Even without shaders it's aight

But the point kinda is to show your stuff off in the best way possible

[unkempt drift]

So I just got finished playing some tennis at my local public tennis courts… and about halfway through the game with a friend, this couple with two dogs comes on to play at an adjacent court. And the two dogs, not on leashes, immediately go and mark their territory in at least 6 places along the fence around the 4 tennis courts. Am I wrong for being a little peeved at that? I don’t want to pickup a tennis ball that rolled into some dog pee.

[warm anchor]

Big oof

[golden gust]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/epicworldgenerator-1-15-1-17-1.8067/

oh, I was wrong

he didn't update it

[wide chasm]

wtf

Who takes their dogs to a tennis court

[unkempt drift]

who are you wtf'ing?

oh idk, I dont really have a problem with that, its the whole dogs peeing that I take issue with

[wide chasm]

I mean, I agree with you, that's gross

I don't know which type of court it is, but if a dog decides that that would be a nice spot to dig, that could also really damage the court

[golden gust]

Unless it's a dog park, no, you're right to be annoyed

the nature of there being a tennis court kinda screams to me that it wasn't so

[unkempt drift]

yeah, its not a dog park. its very clearly 4 tennis courts

and they are totally fenced in, so its just the 4 tennis courts in this enclosed area

[worn ember]

go shit on their dogs to assert dominance

[warm anchor]

Machine have you try peeing on your side of the court so they would touch your pee too?

[unkempt drift]

I'm 100% sure if I peed on the court, the cops would be called very quickly.

[warm anchor]

[neat oyster]

you can't be sure without trying

[golden gust]

as they say

only one way to find out

Hey, you know what

just come back in a fur suit

[warm anchor]

thoughts? @static badge let me ask the pro

[foggy veldt]

You’re 100% in the wrong. You should never be mad at dogs 🐶

[warm anchor]

I think hes mad at the owners

[golden gust]

to be fair

[foggy veldt]

Oh that’s fine then you may proceed

[golden gust]

if the dogs went to those places to pee

Sorry to tell you this, but it was probs more marking, which, means that said place is probs the parks message board for the dogs 😄

[proud lance]

pee on the owners

problem solved

the minute their dog goes to pee, you pee on the owner

[golden gust]

Hey, dowd

You got a tape measure?

[proud lance]

I do actually

and a ruler

and a laser one

take your pick

[golden gust]

just wondering if you could place it down so that the tip is against your front door and just lay it on the floor for a meter or so

I wanna see how far I can reach

[proud lance]

why do you want to pee on me cat

[golden gust]

not on you

I just wanted to see how far I could go

for science, you know

[jade flax]

about a meter duh

[golden gust]

I mean, bearing in mind the angling, etc, could impede flow

Maybe I need to get a measuring mat for the bathroom

[jade flax]

ah right, you'll need to know the wind direction and speed too

[proud lance]

I hope you put it in the tub

and you aren't doing it nilly willy on the floor

[warm anchor]

he would but his tub is already full

[proud lance]

full of practice runs?

[golden gust]

Yes

[jade flax]

you think cat bathes?

[proud lance]

honestly with his health, its hard to imagine him getting out of bed

I am just imagining hes laying in bed typing all this out on his overhead computer thats wall mounted

groaning when he turns over

LMAO

cat at 70

[golden gust]

PMSL

[true canyon]

cat at now

[static badge]

https://imgur.com/cIz5Cg3

[tropic flame]

when a leaf is spotted (idk)

[golden gust]

that generally means that it's diseased and should be pruned

[waxen panther]

@ electroniccat[no-ping]

[golden gust]

broc

I will lick you

[waxen panther]

3am licks 😳

[golden gust]

||3am lick and stick||

oh god, why?!

[proud lance]

what if we licked each other in cat's piss tub...jk...unless

[worn ember]

wtf am i reading

[golden gust]

Welcome to paper

You know, I do wonder

could you actually fill a bath tub or would it just evaporate and just leave like, horrors, behind

Sadly, there is only one way to find out, which doesn't involve maths, and, just, nope

[worn ember]

pretty sure you could fill it

eventually

[tropic flame]

||I'm not sure if licking is a good alternative to lu-|| ok I'm not gonna finish

[golden gust]

This is why we can't have nice things

could you imagine if they made "how far can you urinate" into like a sport

like, it would basically be a universal sport for guys

[tropic flame]

we probably totally do that here with a bunch of beers and 6 friends

[golden gust]

Like, we've all done the research ourself, just, without a measure

[spare venture]

pee is not sterile 😔

[tropic flame]

well, not with that attitude /s

[golden gust]

god, my sperm donor was one of those people who used to watch all of the like, survival type BS shows

Ever used a snake as a "water" bottle? bear grylls has

[cosmic raft]

this channel was a mistake

[golden gust]

hai

[jade flax]

this channel or cat?

[golden gust]

i am face plants desk

[proud lance]

horrors beind

you only dont get horrors if its just water

[golden gust]

https://twitter.com/Direwolf20/status/1489069360316661761

Direwolf20 (@Direwolf20)

How many girlscout cookies* are you allowed to eat in one sitting without feeling guilty.

*in number of boxes.

Twitter · Feb 3, 2022, 2:52 AM

as a brit, I've never had girl scout cookies, but, the number of boxes thing just reminded me of the joys of when you get something so addictive you accidently finish off a box

and then are like, "just one more... and another one" and before you know it, you're having to force yourself to stop cos you're 1/2 way through the new box

[proud lance]

someone should make a business of selling girl scout cookies in the UK

could make a killing

[golden gust]

on one side, I wanna start being much more healthy

on the other side

COOOKIES!

[proud lance]

just have a cheat day

also I like how this is listed on the amazon uk site

[golden gust]

😄

[proud lance]

the irony

[golden gust]

cancel TV license

buy door mat

[daring owl]

solid mspt ngl

[proud lance]

There should be a thing where if your domain sends from a marketing domain and I mark you as spam, your entire companies domains get blacklisted, if enough people do it, you get spam filtered by large organizations

so tired of these sales people putting me in their mailing lists

[golden gust]

thank god spamhaus is a useful service which does good for the world

oh, wait

[proud lance]

I just want the parent company to hurt

I hate how I gotta unsubscribe through some stupid form that makes me do a bunch of stuff

I never signed up in the first place

[golden gust]

Kinda makes you wish that there was a service which would just fill their mail accounts up

[proud lance]

need a way to if they use mailchimp any email from them generates a report to the abuse department

same goes for all those other

[daring owl]

i find gmail filtering to be very very good

[proud lance]

gmail cant filter out legit sales emails

I am not talking about like nigerian spam, people from SaSS providers and resellers trying to get me to sign up for their stuff or newsletters I didn't consent to

[golden gust]

I'd still hit the spam button just cos it punishes them

[marble lark]

the fuck

i was about to ask whether y'all pronounced javac as "javak" or "java-see" but then i came in here and read that lmao

[lilac moon]

java saw

[void void]

Both

[jagged widget]

anyone know how i can sync the playerlist between all the servers under velocity

[magic river]

phew, too many words with the same 4 letters
Wordle 229 6/6

⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
🟨🟨🟨⬜🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Oh hey the Pi officially has a 64 bit OS now

So when people come in wanting to run MC on a Pi you can just tell them to wipe the thing and start over with the right OS install 😄

[jagged widget]

even with existing pi's?

[magic river]

It's a lot easier for them to figure out how to backup anything they might have on there and start over

The 64 bit OS is for the 3 and 4, the only ones that have 64 bit processors

Although if you're trying to run a MC server on a 3 you're going to have a bad time, it barely works on the 4

[jagged widget]

o nice i might have to try that

oh yeah not a server on a pi

[grave yarrow]

i've ran servers on the pi

running 64 bit

i've had no problems

[magic river]

https://colinfinck.de/posts/targeting-25-years-of-windows-with-visual-studio-2019/

This is awful but I love it

clang, libc++, winpthreads, and a little compat shim let you use C++20 on WinNT4

[jagged widget]

a-anyone know this? i still hjavent found a way to do that

[golden gust]

ultimatly, use a plugin, as for if such a plugin exists, god knows

[crystal stream]

where to get paper 1.16 because its not on site

[smoky cloud]

https://papermc.io/legacy

[crystal stream]

k thanks

[ashen cliff]

Software clock drift isn't real, it can't hurt you.
Software clock drift: https://posili.me/i/KYm3KeTM-2022-02-03_12-14-14.png

[neat oyster]

im proe

i survived a thing today

[ashen cliff]

Go on.

[plucky sparrow]

Zero 2 as well

[plucky sparrow]

Same except it ran like dogshit 😆

[jagged widget]

anyone know how to disable the built in anticheat? (dont judge, not for production)

[twin lagoon]

there's thresholds you can change in spigot.yml

[jagged widget]

like the "player moved too quickly" things

o ok thanks

[jagged widget]

whats the setting called?

[twin lagoon]

ctrl f threshold

[neat oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900767917078097991/938492680508440686/unknown.png

LMAO

also that guys name is cool

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther @cunning raft thoughts

[frosty mantle]

small question. Is there a plugin like the bedwars function where it generates minerals from the ground every few seconds?

[cunning raft]

@twin lagoon will forward this inquiry to @quasi valley

[twin lagoon]

@quasi valley thoughts

[quasi valley]

I am on lunch break, please ask rat master @static badge

[neat oyster]

he ad hu nt er

meme man of paper

[quiet mesa]

many booms xd

[thorny rivet]

I am on the fence between Aikar's IDB versus JDBI. I like the first for having CompletableFuture wrappers, but miss the latter's Consumer that gets rid of explicit try-with-resources for the connection and has a beans mapper

any thoughts?

[neat oyster]

dedd chat

[vestal jasper]

@twin lagoon uwu

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[still sorrel]

people criticise me for using metadata, is it that bad if you don't manually clean it up?

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon uwu

[still sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503328429295271938/938555313852911636/16438394156603995488632345097793.jpg

I feel this so hard

[waxen panther]

We don’t care about your drama

don’t bring it up here

[nova hatch]

its not drama

its funny

😂

[waxen panther]

it’s boring

and no one asked

[nova hatch]

then

why did you respond

exactly

[waxen panther]

?

I responded because it’s paper general and you were posting cringe

[nova hatch]

its called off topic

[waxen panther]

it’s called general

[nova hatch]

mkay

[neat oyster]

ppl forgor what is discord most of the time

[nova hatch]

discord isnt for gaming anymore they changed it

its stupid since gamers use it more then corps

im pretty sure 88 % of this discord are gamers

[waxen panther]

💀

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther thoughts

[waxen panther]

It’s times like this that I wish I was blind

[nova hatch]

at times i wish people like you could just go if they dont like it

[twin lagoon]

at times i wish people like you could just go if they dont like it

[void void]

very true!

[nova hatch]

i was just doing a come back

but ok

[twin lagoon]

😂

[waxen panther]

Wow roasted epic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[nova hatch]

just go if you dont like it here

lmao

i dont understand why you guys stay if you dont like it

[warm anchor]

Once you grow up you will realize most people don’t really care. If you have some sort of drama, block and move on. There is no need to tell other people let alone going as far as calling people out for blocking you

[nova hatch]

what

i moved topics

[glass crag]

L + ratio

[waxen panther]

creeper have you considered that the problem might not be everyone else

[twin lagoon]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Nae_Nae_Dance.gif

[waxen panther]

but in fact yourself

😳

[warm anchor]

Sick moves

[nova hatch]

can you stop no one is legit talking to you anymore

[waxen panther]

Michael is talking to me

[warm anchor]

[waxen panther]

[nova hatch]

then turn off your pc

[waxen panther]

no thank you

[nova hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/letter-k-gif-9063755

[waxen panther]

I am so glad you deleted your previous k to replace it with a gif

so much more impactful now

[neat oyster]

lmao

[nova hatch]

mkay

[waxen panther]

mkay

[neat oyster]

me watching an argument on discord

[ripe sphinx]

[nova hatch]

k

[waxen panther]

me when creeper nation attacks paper general

[nova hatch]

can you stop

[warm anchor]

[lavish compass]

@twin lagoon

[neat oyster]

ayy 11 here to join me on the audience side

[twin lagoon]

best cubxity

[lavish compass]

@warm anchor @waxen panther

[ripe sphinx]

meh just bored and procrastinating my calc hw

[warm anchor]

@lavish compass

[ripe sphinx]

(fuck calc)

[neat oyster]

me too procrastinating phys

[waxen panther]

@lavish compass BEST cubxity

[neat oyster]

study

[lavish compass]

School kills.

[neat oyster]

👍

[full rune]

[neat oyster]

wtf u deleted the only worth thing u sent

[lavish compass]

Who cares about geography when you can learn vim keybinds?

[nova hatch]

^

wait

[warm anchor]

[lavish compass]

[nova hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/mew-cat-cute-kitten-pussy-cat-gif-16724426

[neat oyster]

ok bye

[nova hatch]

bye

[lavish compass]

0 12 * * * ./michaelHug.sh

[neat oyster]

there is no proof that school does'nt kill everyone who goes there dies

[worn ember]

brocc bullying kids again smh

[waxen panther]

i was being nice this time wtf

[pastel reef]

Nothing will grow if I set tickspeed to 0 right?

[neat oyster]

"I'm actually curious why they don't post world edit on spigotmc"

someone asked

does anyone actualy know the reason here?

nvm i should ask in WE discord

[warm anchor]

[foggy veldt]

If the reason has to do with drama you owe me a pizza

[waxen panther]

dbo is better

not drama related

[neat oyster]

im going to do it

im going to ask it on engine hub gl to me

[foggy veldt]

Banned for talking about taboo

[neat oyster]

I DID IT

[foggy veldt]

I commend your bravery

[neat oyster]

idk why i did the censor but ok

[waxen panther]

literally my answer

[neat oyster]

yes.

[magic river]

DBO is better

Unless you're trying to ask for money

DBO has been, afaik, unmaintained since like 3 months after we all quit, still better than anything else 😛

[foggy veldt]

Does the last message semi count as drama I want pizza

[magic river]

Unless they finally got it moved to their shared codebase so it could evolve alongside curgeforge

[tropic flame]

i indeed agree that DBO is better

[neat oyster]

[tropic flame]

no "premium" plugins 😎

[neat oyster]

u got it

[warm anchor]

I’ve always getting my WE from bukkit site

Never noticed that it isn’t on spigot

[magic river]

This is a positive

[tropic flame]

it is indeed a positive

[neat oyster]

sheesh me too im getting from jenkins lol

[foggy veldt]

I’m actually impressed they understood the first message tho, it would’ve took me like 5 minutes to decipher “why is we”

[tropic flame]

(also a positive from Sponge Ore)

[foggy veldt]

I go to engine hub because the name is memorable and then follow the links

[neat oyster]

i capitalized tho

but it took me like 3 days to understand what is FAWE

which is more confusing

[tropic flame]

FastAsyncWorldExcellence

runs

[left swift]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935184034198343751/938845015998881892/Screenshot_20220203-111413_Discord.jpg

I wonder who that could be

[neat oyster]

"idk why i did the censor but ok"

now i would realy be confused and kinda mad if they released WE on hangar

fr

[unkempt edge]

Excuse me, can some one explain why for sync database must use redis ?._. Why not using sql

[vernal moth]

Why would be that?

They can choose whatever platform they want

[neat oyster]

yea true

[vernal moth]

Spigot just is a pretty bad one to choose

[neat oyster]

i said confused

no first dev said "cause it existed since before spigot"

[golden gust]

it existed before spigot and theres 0 reason to move it to spigot

[vernal moth]

Your first mistake was calling spigot a marketplace

[neat oyster]

but anyway it is their choise

[vernal moth]

I am sure they will make the right choice when the time is right

[golden gust]

because mysql is not a messaging service, and many use the key, value store of redis for storing player counts rather than dealing with sql

[ashen cliff]

It's also their choice to make their dev build links non wget friendly. 🛌

[spare venture]

😴

[golden gust]

redis just fits the bill better for shooting crap around a network better than mangling sql

[vernal moth]

Kafka or bust

[neat oyster]

dis was the reason i asked

someone from another server said dat

[ashen cliff]

Real reason: ||So they don't compete with FAWE. The superior option.||

[golden gust]

Spigots resource section is shit

everything is bound to a single account

[spare venture]

or they can put their plugin wherever they want

[golden gust]

md is hostile af towards any form of automation

no release channel BS

etc, etc, etc

[ashen cliff]

So is Paper. 🛌

[neat oyster]

i didnt say they cant at all i was just a pigeon lol

[spare venture]

don’t be a pigeon then

smh

[golden gust]

provies pretty API which you can easily parse

[vernal moth]

I like how hangar solves literally every single issue cat raises

[golden gust]

eat my pp

[ashen cliff]

I don't need a pretty API. I just need /latest

[void void]

Mini, will hangar have non-internal api to publish releases?

[golden gust]

/latest would be useless anyways

hangar is API first

[vernal moth]

Yes that's a goal Noah

[void void]

Awesome, thanks

[vernal moth]

Designing that API however is incredible hard

[twin lagoon]

well yes but it doesn't exist yet

[golden gust]

everything you can do on the UI you should be able to do through the API

[vernal moth]

It's one of the last open tasks

[golden gust]

at least that was originally the hopes so I kinda recall

[vernal moth]

We want to simplify that by standardizing a hangar.yml with all the metadata you need to upload to hangar

[ashen cliff]

It would save me like 3 API calls.

[golden gust]

idk any other sane API which provides a latest endpoint

it just created more headaches than it was worth

[vernal moth]

Latest endpoint is a pain for caching

It's literally impossible to cache right

[golden gust]

like, people literally pulling hour old builds cos of all the caching BS

[ashen cliff]

BS. Just make it redirect. 🛌

[golden gust]

also cached

[void void]

can't have any caching problems if you don't have caching

[vernal moth]

You gonna pay for our bandwidth then?

Are we at 50tb yet?

[warm anchor]

Yes noah the millionaire

[spare venture]

make every hangar paid plugin pay a monthly fee

[warm anchor]

I think after hangar release we will be at 100t

[golden gust]

the bandwidth

all the infra to cope with that

[ashen cliff]

I'll lend you the Nexus.

[spare venture]

make them pay per kb in the jar

[warm anchor]

[golden gust]

we're already having to work on rebuilding our entire infra

[spare venture]

this will kill kotlin

win win

[warm anchor]

Anti cheat developer with 40mb jar in shamble

[spare venture]

40mb what the fuck

[golden gust]

so

you get 20MB free per account

[warm anchor]

[void void]

per star, you get 1kb more

[neat oyster]

me who doesn't know how to remove stuff from shaded jar

[ashen cliff]

Make people pay for /latest access.

EZ money.

[magic river]

Gotta put some ads on it then sell it all to Curse

[golden gust]

being owned by curse

damn

that's a dream

[spare venture]

is it

[magic river]

Apparently they were paying at least one of the 4 Bukkit devs Mojang ended up hiring a full time salary

I think more than 1

[golden gust]

some may call it a nightmare, but, that's a form of dream

[spare venture]

that is true

so wise

[vernal moth]

I really liked what curse did to DBO

The ad money sharing is a really cool way of monetization

[magic river]

Less likely to get a virus than adfly too

[vernal moth]

What hangar could do is bill authors for higher usage, aka if you have big plugins or want to have more channels or want to keep more old builds or shit like that you pay a fee

Idk we will see

[grand pewter]

Hangar™️ Premium

[golden gust]

tbqh, given how transparent we are with spending, I don't see that ever being much of an issue

[void void]

Hangar Nitro™️

[neat oyster]

for free plugin authors too?

[spare venture]

offer a hangar subscription service

[magic river]

They either need to stick ads on it or charge developers

[spare venture]

fr

[vernal moth]

We will see

[spare venture]

first hangar needs to exist

[vernal moth]

We got enough resources right now to get started

And then we can look

[magic river]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Nau0GUwQHd7pe

oh jeez that end text

It kind of fits though, I was looking for a good "sick burn" gif

[neat oyster]

my nitro will end next month sad

[spare venture]

wasnt supposed to be a burn

[vernal moth]

I mean, hangar is progressing steadily

[worn ember]

who tf stores oil in a water tower

[vernal moth]

There isn't that much missing

[warm anchor]

Just missing Mini's love

[vernal moth]

I hate having to split my love in 3 parts

One always falls short

[warm anchor]

[vernal moth]

Right now it's my OSS work

[worn ember]

its ok you cant help that its short

[vernal moth]

Sometimes it's my day job

In the past it often was my personal life

[warm anchor]

OOS dont pay the bill so yeah only driven by pure love

[worn ember]

you must not be an RTP dev then

[warm anchor]

[vernal moth]

I got enough reserves to not work a full year at this point eter, am not driven by money

[worn ember]

you still need it to live though

so having a bunch is never bad

[vernal moth]

Oh yeah sure

But right now work is just really fun

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

if you're not driven bymoney can you buy me some good blutooth earbuds?

i need some

[vernal moth]

New responsibilities, kinda managing a small team, rewriting old shit, it's fun

[warm anchor]

Mini is financial responsible adult

[vernal moth]

Suuuuuuurrreeeeeeee

[magic river]

Taking that year off to work on passion projects didn't work out well for me

[vernal moth]

I brought myself a 3.5k piano eter, lmao

Yeah that's what am afraid of too

[worn ember]

might become a drag

[spare venture]

i wouldn’t do it

[vernal moth]

My goal is to just reduce working time at day job and use that time to do passion stuff

[spare venture]

yes

[magic river]

I basically got nothing done and 1 year turned in to several years of barely surviving while job hunting

[vernal moth]

But today was the second day I worked for 12 hours cause I didn't wanna stop

[neat oyster]

aww sad

[worn ember]

can always flip some burgers if you're strapped for cash

[warm anchor]

yeah I feel that working 40 hours is way too much now that I dont have to

[magic river]

Although I suppose these days it'd be easier, I have more experience and the market is more open to remote work

[spare venture]

burger flipping starts at $19/hr in seattle

[vernal moth]

Am already at 38

[worn ember]

better than $0/h

[golden gust]

my experience is fun, cos I have years of like, contracting out

and so, it's time with experience

but, not commercial experience

[warm anchor]

I think cutting it more will help. physically and mentally

[neat oyster]

i get 0 dollor an hour

[spare venture]

man i worked a 70 hour week a few months ago. never again

[neat oyster]

from mc

[warm anchor]

in a sense, covid helped me to realize this

[magic river]

Yeah, I ended up making up a bunch of shit for my time as a contractor 😛

[golden gust]

and, recruiters are too dumb to read into it until I basically explain what I've been doing

[warm anchor]

I work a lot less now compare to 2019 pre-covid

[worn ember]

imagine working kekw

[golden gust]

and then are like, "Oh, we wanted somebody with more commercial experience"

[spare venture]

at least with software you have that luxury

[magic river]

Instead of trying to figure out how to explain I would spend a day here and there helping someone make their P2W server run better I took the couple of larger projects I had and pretended they were longer and included all that other stuff

[spare venture]

or tech

[warm anchor]

The magical thing is the relization that you get actual free time

[golden gust]

This is also at a time where the local job market has basically disappeared cos everybody is bunkering

[worn ember]

i just watch yt all day and do some modding left and right, do some work for my boss when i feel like it

ez life

[spare venture]

industry has barely changed. some positions are remote but those are rarer

[golden gust]

-help is my biggest weakness

[warm anchor]

yeah zcat. I felt like young adult that is starting up right now is getting omega fucked

[golden gust]

I have MH issues, and apparently sometimes those issues come out into me being stuck in -help all day

[spare venture]

ehhh

[worn ember]

just buy your own NFT's to inflate its price and then sell them for "cheap" after

[spare venture]

lots of companies are having a shortage of educated workers

[vernal moth]

I turned discord off at work now

[golden gust]

And I started the "young adult" a few years later 😄

[vernal moth]

That helps

[golden gust]

shortage of educated workers, yes

[magic river]

Being in another country makes things complicated otherwise in the US if you know how to make your LinkedIn you have to beat recruiters off with a stick

[worn ember]

by the time i graduate i'll be a senior

[spare venture]

that’s true amaranth

[golden gust]

but, they're also stupidly expecting people to be better than just educated

[spare venture]

i don’t know the climate outside the US

[vernal moth]

It's the same for me

[golden gust]

Like, pretty much all of the junior level jobs disappeared

[magic river]

They're all willing to do at least 6 months of remote too, even if they want you to move eventually

[worn ember]

US pays best for programming jobs

[warm anchor]

oh yes if you want that sweet 250k a year pay you have to come to US

[spare venture]

the company i work for will basically hire anyone with a degree and previous manufacturing experience for their entry level eng positions

[golden gust]

so, I'm in this fun place where I'm not really a junior but I have the experience of one

[spare venture]

an engineering degree*

[magic river]

But being in a another country makes all of that way more complicated for you and them

[golden gust]

US pay somewhat levels out when you consider much of the benefits, etc

[warm anchor]

zcat it is a lot better now if you are desireable and can WFH

[spare venture]

4 weeks vacation to start would be jice

nice

[warm anchor]

the issue of paying $5000 rent is gone if you manage to work remote

[golden gust]

most of the high paying dev jobs in the US are in high living rate areas, not too many regulation there to help you, etc, etc

[worn ember]

work from his cardboard box

[warm anchor]

there are a lot of cheap place here

[vernal moth]

Cat just learn German I can get you hired easily here ^^

[spare venture]

i think the average in the us is like 10 days (all workers)

[worn ember]

lasagna time

[vernal moth]

I just got a friend hired, not even a dev position, I get a 3000 Euro Bonus for that

And a nice new coworker

[warm anchor]

is German a requirement?

[golden gust]

Well, yea, but, apparently some companies where talking about basically reducing rates if you were no longer in their home base

[vernal moth]

Yes

[warm anchor]

zcat speaks brit*sh

[worn ember]

not being a weeb is required

[golden gust]

i.e. if you moved across the country you could have to take a pay cut to account for the fact that they don't need to pay you as much to be able to survive

which, I mean, kinda makes sense but is shitty af

[vernal moth]

My coworkers moved all over the country

[spare venture]

that makes sense, also part of the cost of hiring you is giving you all the workplace benefits

[vernal moth]

Hamburg, Munich, etc

[spare venture]

food, an office space, etc

mine gave me a free costco membership

[golden gust]

as I say, one of the most beautiful things about the pandemic

ALL of the companies which said that remote working was impossible

magi-fucking-cally managed to pull it off when they had to

[spare venture]

i would hate to work remote. when i had covid and was working remote i hated my life

[warm anchor]

it is really people dependent some people loves it

[spare venture]

also my job as an engineer in industry is kinda impossible to do if you’re not physically present

[golden gust]

ideal arrangement for me would be to be able to just wake up in the morning, figure it's too cold outside and just WFH unless there was something that day which prevented it

Well,yea, if you get your hands dirty that can't really be done at home

[spare venture]

yeah, lot of positions can easily be done remote tho

[golden gust]

Like, theres always gonna be shit which can't be done from home but it's been one of the many complaints for years especially from the disabled community

[spare venture]

but i would miss talking to people 😦

i waste so much time talking to coworkers

[golden gust]

talking

[neat oyster]

but you wouldn't need 250k in other countries

[golden gust]

You mean cussing at people

I do kinda miss working on a shop floor at times

[neat oyster]

most other

i suk at English

[warm anchor]

the playbook is suck it up for a decade then you live off as advisor for life and can have all the hookers for the rest of your life

[spare venture]

yeah the $250k a year helps when there’s $2500 a month for a 1 bedroom

[warm anchor]

you call that bedroom I call that closet

[neat oyster]

i would rather not lol that 10 yers would be hell

[warm anchor]

but yeah living in those city sucks balls

[spare venture]

still can’t believe my apartment wants $2,360/mo for month to month in a 700 sq ft apartment 30 minutes outside of seattle

[neat oyster]

i live in like the 5 th biggest city in my state cheap stuff