@olive marlin cat pics
#general
twin lagoon
olive marlin
<@!209234044657991680> cat pics
twin lagoon
send new ones here
olive marlin
I only have new Ciri pics I got in short work break.
void void
Wait, when did city leave
twin lagoon
idk 3 weeks ago
potent panther
waterfall vs velocity
worn ember
potent panther
<https://velocitypowered.com/wiki/users/comparisons-to-other-proxies/>
would you use velocity or waterfall?
void void
For a new project, Velocity 100%
golden gust
velocity is built from the ground up to be better
ideally tilt towards it
ofc, the ecosystem is still kinda new, so, maybe it's not exactly achievable yet, but, it's where I'd be leaning
spare venture
the global supply chain is very delicate, can’t interrupt it at all as we clearly now know
i for one have noticed stuff still getting worse so /shrug
worn ember
its a downward spiral
spare venture
you order stuff and 6 months go by and you still don’t have it and you wonder if you’ll ever get it
worn ember
i havnt bought anything online in the past 2 years
spare venture
do you just not buy anything
limber knotBOT
meanwhile amazon same day delivery be like 🚪 👈 👨
but yes, I really wish the steam deck would've shipped by now ;_;
worn ember
better start making the chips for it then
spare venture
oh you got the screw?
potent fossil
ye
spare venture
ayyy
potent fossil
just finished copying my linux system over
windows is currently fucked cause i need to fix its bootloader
but ill worry about that in a little bit
spare venture
nice
twin lagoon
the only reason to buy an nvme drive is the compactness / no cable fuckery
potent fossil
f a s t
potent fossil
did i ask
twin lagoon
yes
potent fossil
actually my download speed aint bottlenecked by disk write anymore 
https://owo.whats-th.is/8j2UXZS.png
brave radish
where do you live that has such internet
potent fossil
a place
brave radish
oh, now realizing that question was unintentionally invasive, I just meant what country 😄
warm anchor
hmm @brave radish
potent fossil
i don't mind i was just fucking with you lol
brave radish
sigh the Hangar Discord logo is back on my screen
warm anchor
I can max up steam sleep @brave radish
old screeny
NVMe actually solved the last bottleneck from using faber
brave radish
potent fossil
bad
warm anchor
big oof
brave radish
my upload is almost always 9.x so it's not always as bad
potent fossil
spare venture
my parents internet is atrocious
grand pewter
i wish there was better stuff over here
void void
spare venture
they pay for good speeds but their router is fucked or something idk
warm anchor
just call ISP
claim router is broke
(disconnect it and go through the troubleshoot)
spare venture
no its their router
spare venture
idk what they did I bought them a new router the last time I was here and set up their network and it was running great
their as in my parents
warm anchor
I see
spare venture
they pay for 200mbps, i can get anywhere from 10-200 mbps randomly
my dad still thinks it's because "too many devices on the network" despite it being like a $120 solid asus router
i gave up on figuring it out for them since im here like 10 days a year
potent fossil
lul
foggy silo
Yea internet is just like that here
potent fossil
how about the modem
topaz mortar
😂
potent fossil
isp's or
foggy silo
We pay for gigabit, and sometimes get 0.xx download.
warm anchor
new wiring in house?
foggy silo
I mean, it's WOW here.
void void
Which ISP?
spare venture
i had it working so well then they did something because the wifi network name is different, password is different, and my dad said he messed with it
potent fossil
what the hell is a ziggo
twin lagoon
i've never had issues with them until i moved to giganet
and now my internet dies every week or so for a day
foggy silo
The area around us recently got bought out by some Canadian company, so 🥺 .
foggy silo
and now my internet dies every week or so for a day
yep!
twin lagoon
it just cuts off for 30 seconds every hour 
void void
still waiting for gigabit in my area 😔
spare venture
idk WOW has always been good for me, theyre using spectrum now which is fine here too
ISPs in columbus are generally great
twin lagoon
you fucking bet i will move to fiber as soon as it's available here
they've started laying it in my old neighbourhood
foggy silo
Lmao I have totally opposite experience here.
twin lagoon
i want my 10 gigabit
foggy silo
We've have so many WOW guys over, only to blame it towards us, despite THEM having setup most of it.
spare venture
there's ATT, Spectrum, WOW, Verizon so there's actual competition
potent fossil
theres no competition in my area, just comcast
foggy silo
Well, WOW recently sold a bunch of their area.
potent fossil
thankfully they actually provide good speed
spare venture
last I checked gigabit here is like $55/mo
foggy silo
So I guess we are being "converted" to this new isp anayways.
potent fossil
comcast offers gigabit for us but the infrastructure isn't built, so when i asked about it to get faster upload they were like "it'll be $3000"
spare venture
i pay $85/mo for 400mbps in seattle with a 1.2tb datacap
potent fossil
and i was like "lol fuck off"
serene bolt
So I guess we are being "converted" to this new isp anayways.
starting in 2022 yeah, they've already sent out notices here in illinois
foggy silo
Ahh in 2022, yea I never heard of any date.
spare venture
oh my god i just went to the local ip to check the router settings and it sent me to the spectrum router page... what the fawk
potent fossil
middlemanned by your own isp 😔
spare venture
theres no way, my dad probably let them install their own router
potent fossil
lul
spare venture
im gonna ask him for the $120 router to take for myself
foggy silo
And then I get fun issues like this, blaming my isp because it does random stuff like this all the time (and I hope it's my isp 🥺).
Just sometimes decides not to resolve stuff, javadoc tasks usually take the longest for me because of this lmfao.
spare venture
i just watched dont look up and wow that movie is about what i expected
lean kiln
-x javadoc 
foggy silo
-x javadoc <:PepeLa:798951090539987004>
thank you lmfao. I'm not a big gradle wizz
Old projects I worked on insisted on sticking with intellij artifacts.
fluid gulch
help, I need paper version 1.16.5
crystal lilyBOT
left swift
legacy
fluid gulch
thank you
void void
was lockette discontinued?
golden gust
Afaik yea
void void
any alternative?
golden gust
Lwc extended was the go-to these days iirc
void void
thanks
potent fossil
Every fuckin time I go to get my Adderall prescription I get dogged like I'm a drug addict and they get annoyed that I use a prescription discount card and not insurance to save $5
That's $60 a year in savings bet your ass
Gotta love it 
Man actually told me "good luck" this time as if I don't take this medicine every day to be a functional human being
golden gust
Hope ya do well on the test bud
vernal moth
I want Adderall :/
potent fossil
Do you have adhd
vernal moth
Not really, am a human disaster either way
golden gust
He's like
vernal moth
But Adderall still has an effect on me ^^
golden gust
As close to dutchy as you can get
potent fossil
:rieSigh:
ADHD med stigma will live forever it seems
Well I'll be back I gotta drive
golden gust
Really gotta change my GP soon but I liked my old doc but it's likez your walk now so bleh
01:23 am, after waking up at like 2, I should do slep
magic river
viscid wedge
ADHD med stigma will live forever it seems
It'll continue for as long as people abuse stimulants unfortunately
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: pokiban over
magic river
As far as I can see he kept to the ban, he just used other camgirls instead
Went from somewhat sexualized streamer emotes to literal camgirl emotes
magic river
@left swift was challenged to stop using poki emotes for 24 hours
vernal moth
Oh
left swift
nice
magic river
He switched to Mia Khalifa emotes instead
vernal moth
Is poki sexualized?
magic river
Is it rie?
vernal moth
I don't watch much twitch, but poki always seems on the saner side of the spectrum to me, just a girl who likes to game, not like those streamers who just wiggle their boobs around
left swift
@plucky sparrow 
magic river
Yeah but then all of her emotes are her dancing around and crap
So definitely on that line
left swift
i mean all twitch streamers sell their image
vernal moth
All personalities do
magic river
Eh, there are people like DansGaming who have all of their emotes as them doing something and they're doing the same thing
I meant literally your image
Not your "image" as in the brand, your personality, etc
left swift
i dont think pokimane has like a onlyfans thing
also emiru isnt a camgirl
and i just got the one emote 
magic river
I only saw the Mia Khalifa one
Anyway, you did it, I guess the challenge was too easy 😛
left swift
what do I win
magic river
plucky sparrow
<@!262644781241466880> <:pokiBased:912566901325049898>
lick my feet
left swift
foggy silo
F
potent fossil
Oh NVM it gave up
Oh nice it erased my bcd
The bcd was the disk error
Ok
just put an index on the timestamp column
then its fast
thats why they exist
?
void void
any cool plugins recommendations for a survival server?
potent fossil
yea
void void
vanilla-ish for friends
potent fossil
try the syscraft server @void void, this is more devs and stuff. more server owners over there
plucky sparrow
How’s it going simple
void void
I see thanks
plucky sparrow
Is the nvme not working :p
potent fossil
then you put an index on the timestamp column and select * from table where time = blablabla
no...you let the db do the work
ok change the where class to join > blablabla and leave < blablabla
clause*
the index still does the heavy lifting
thats fine
actually that sounds like bad table design
i mean you should just use one row per session
and just update the row when they leave
not reinsert it
potent fossil
Is the nvme not working :p
nah it works fine just trying to fix windows bootloader
it got murdered in the disk copying process
potent fossil
you do one query for the join, then do another for the leave, then combine then into a set (distinct entries)
and that's your result
but, really, the db schema should be fixed
that's the proper answer
after
joins:
select * from table where join >= timestamp
leaves:
select * from table where leave <= timestamp
you now have two resultsets, combine them into one set and you will have distinct entries
well really, you want the union of the sets
(which is what i just said, but with set theory vocabulary)
actually doesnt sql have union
hold on
yea
you can do this entirely in sql
one second
select * from table where join >= timestamp union select * from table where leave <= timestamp
that will do what you want
but you can easily reduce that to just one efficient query by using an index (you will want an index regardless) and a better schema
dont forget the index tho, because searching timestamp data without one is like asking for death
definitely will increase depending on the amount of entries in there but its the only way to keep it speedy
otherwise itll have to do two full table scans every time you look that up
which will just get worse and worse as data is added
its a hit you need to take
yes
create index timestamp_index on table_name ((column_name) ASC) should be
viral hornet
potent fossil
change ASC to DESC if you want, that's the default sort ordering of the timestamps
DESC going from latest time to earliest, ASC going from earliest to latest
no cause you can change the sort order in your query
also gg whoever just tried to send their invite
wat
k
ppl can log in at the same time
pkeys need to be unique
among other things
worn ember
That's fine. Even if two people login at exactly the same time they'll still be different
jade tulip
how does the xp seed work in paper?
left swift
hi simple
potent fossil
hi mana
and i guess am gonna reinstall windows? lmao
the bootloader for it is fucked and i've been trying to fix it but it is very unhappy
currently alternating between two different boot errors that are very cryptic
tropic flame
remember when Google used blobs as their emojis?
still mad they put them away
blobs give 10 - 0 to any other emoji sets
bruh this person reacting with vomiting, bro i said what I said
blobs are life
silver nexus
If they were better drawn I would agree
delicate shell
Question: Am I allowed to re-ask a question that was ignored, like once a day? Or like, every few days?
Or never again D:
wraith trail
yeah feel free to ask again, just #paper-help for help using paper and #paper-dev for plugin development questions
proud lance
Question: Am I allowed to re-ask a question that was ignored, like once a day? O...
once and never again, you have to pray someone asks the same question and gets help /s
delicate shell
once and never again, you have to pray someone asks the same question and gets h...
I knew it :(
delicate shell
yeah feel free to ask again, just <#289587909051416579> for help using paper and...
Thank you!
hearty spear
remember when Google used blobs as their emojis?
I always think of the candy dots
When they had those
They were pretty fun
potent fossil
currently alternating between two different boot errors that are very cryptic
nvm i fixed it by obliterating the copy and copying C:\Windows from the old drive
nvm again it's bootlooping
fuckin windows
spark raven
I need to change old data into new config, Any good tools?!
viscid wedge
Fellas, I brought an acoustic guitar home and my dog is absolutely terrified of it
How do I fix this
void void
bye bye dog
spare venture
put peanut butter in it
void void
omg!!!! PSA guys, I just got the vaccine and I can't believe what happened.
magic river
Are you magnetic now?
magic river
Oh god you're an abomination of apartment threading models
jolly schooner
Is buycraft still the store manager most servers use?
granite flax
Tebex now, but probably
jolly schooner
I remember of hearing about one that was its primary competitor, wonder if its still around heh
zealous vessel
isn't buycraft a part of tebexc
serene bolt
buycraft is the old name for tebex, they're the same thing
tebex and craftingstore are the two stores I see used mostly
left swift
am closed source but will become open source with some beers and $30
proud lance
cant wait to commit a mess in your repository
unkempt drift
Did the guy who got the unique 1millionth user sell his account ever?
grand pewter
like emails
not that i know of and itd probably be pretty obvious
mojang doesnt really endorse selling accounts
jolly schooner
what was the 1 mil?
unkempt drift
One of a kind
grand pewter
theres a bunch of one of a kind capes though
namemc also has a directory https://namemc.com/capes
unkempt drift
I thought that was the only “public” one tho
jolly schooner
grand pewter
public as in rando got it, yeah i guess
but same could be said for some of the other given away capes
like turtle dude's
jolly schooner
holy crap, there was a minecon 2016?
wait a tick, you get a cape for migrating now?
grand pewter
ya
jolly schooner
now I want to be capeless
grand pewter
its just the red one everyone has
serene bolt
generic normie cape
grand pewter
shoutout to the guy who has the japanese translator cape
it looks the same as the other ones but it's special, ok
wait also how do 2 people have the turtle cape now lol
oh mojang employee added it to their own account
serene bolt
I actually haven't seen the spade cape before, didn't know it existed
jolly schooner
So is Bedrock and Java edition playable via the same server?
im confused why they have two PC editions
i feel old
serene bolt
not natively, nope
jolly schooner
hmm
serene bolt
proxies exist such as Geyser which makes it possible
jolly schooner
interesting... Geyser is similar to Paper or Bungee?
serene bolt
more like bungee
jolly schooner
hmm
serene bolt
not an actual server software, just a translation proxy
you can install it as a plugin on a server, or use it standalone as a proxy, or install it on a proxy (bungee / velocity)
jolly schooner
nifty... thanks for that
That makes it way easier than setting up a Bedrock server
do those even exist? heh
jolly schooner
Hmm, so why would you use the plugin version if you have velocity or bungee? I guess there's no much benefit then
.... whats floodgate lol
serene bolt
there's some features which work better if you install it as a plugin, because it has direct access to the server which can be important
floodgate is how you manage authentication for java and bedrock accounts
while keeping your server in online mode
serene bolt
nope it's separate, but it's an official addon
serene bolt
no problem, poor kainzo is thrown into a new world of minecraft compared to ye olden days
jolly schooner
I mean... yeah haha
A lot has changed since I left
I went corporate to sort my life out haha
infinite reign at 30, had no mentor, was rough
feels better now
serene bolt
it's 2021 and I still use herochat on my server, so you still live on to me
jolly schooner
swapping servers on waterfall... I get too many packets on the server and get booted with the "could not connect waiofejaw"
[06:43:39 INFO]: Kainzo joined the game
[06:43:39 INFO]: Kainzo[/x] logged in with entity id 1677 at ([Jrr]-107.678013289594, 4.0, 720.4831848260554)
[06:43:40 INFO]: Kainzo lost connection: You are sending too many packets!
[06:43:40 INFO]: Kainzo left the game
@serene bolt I want to modernize Herochat
Like.... hex color support, actual TABS in game for different chats, etc
Just haven thad the time to put into it, or find someone that had the motivation to fix it
serene bolt
yeah there's a lot of room for improvement with all the modern chat features
should start by going open source :P
true canyon
inb4 it's built with ant and nobody can figure out how to compile it anyway
serene bolt
oh god
coarse lily
Haha
jolly schooner
we have gradle on everything else
lemme check
Its been so long I dont even know what branch is master now adays... we redid the API and broke EVERYTHING 5 years ago
and so we were maintaining two branches and it was stupid
hey look - https://i.imgur.com/Rxd9pTQ.png
SKITTLES - but why is that the name
oh god... Legacy is the master branch, haha
left swift
herochat oh wow
jolly schooner
if only my coding skills werent subpar
coarse lily
I used to <3 Herochat
jolly schooner
I'm a creative director, not a coder haha
serene bolt
still one of the best chat plugins because it doesn't break every MC update, unlike multiple other chat plugins
jolly schooner
Yeah.... the ONE time it broke (BECAUSE OF BUKKIT) we got DDOS'd for 3 months straight
coarse lily
I stopped using it a few years ago because it was broken or didn't support some stuff.
I just don't remember what.
It's been a while.
serene bolt
definitely does not support modern chat features, but what it does have works for me anyways
jolly schooner
Maybe its time to open source it, freemium model like Citizens and let the community touch it
Herochat has like 500k downloads i think
total
coarse lily
To be honest if it doesn't support modern chat stuff I'm not sure a paid plugin makes sense.
There are a lot of other options out there.
true canyon
Couldn't be bothered to read past the first item in the features list, eh
coarse lily
I'm not logged into spigot.
true canyon
Don't worry, Kainzo, I'm in the middle of updating a codebase started in 2011 to use modern chat features too! 😄
coarse lily
So the "you have to log in to see plugins" stuff - I just don't read them.
serene bolt
all premium plugins require that you login to even view the page, which is pretty silly
coarse lily
Yeah.
jolly schooner
coarse lily
When I see the "you gotta login" bit I just close the window.
jolly schooner
Herochat went paid like .... 4 or 6 years ago
coarse lily
No offense Pure but I ain't logging into spigot :)
potent fossil
Holy crap windows is temperamental
I've been doing this for hours I'm just gonna reinstall it at this point
I cry
jolly schooner
yes, Herochat supports cross-server proxy chat etc
pastel reef
Is there a Mod that makes Entities load in slowly?
coarse lily
A fabric mod or something? Not sure.
pastel reef
My Intel Duo can't handle rendering 100 Villagers at once.
little frost
where did you get that recording from?
pastel reef
Yeah that's a real old CPU.
I can actually keep a stable 35 fps with 9 Chunks Render Distance thanks to Sodium, sometimes even goes up to 50 fps in Deserts.
coarse lily
where did you get that recording from?
They probably made it ;)
little frost
no they didnt just curious how they're related to the person who did
coarse lily
Oh.
jolly schooner
Okay so I dug into Herochat source.....
Legacy, which is non-API breaking is Herochat 6.0 ... has been updated a lot in the last few years...
Master, is API breaking which is Herochat 5.7 (Non-pro), breaks API, has a few nifty sound alert features....
Not sure I like the idea of breaking API this late in the game, which is why I reverted and went back to Legacy heh
What a cluster.
Yeah... so 5.7 was API breaking
We had a crew of 10-15 devs adn someone wanted to go to the correct namespace
but plugins that werent maintained would break for an ODC "fix"
I hate breaking API for ODC
coarse lily
ODC?
jolly schooner
ocd, lol
coarse lily
Oh
jolly schooner
its 2am
coarse lily
Haha
jolly schooner
Trying to figure out why my pipeline in gitlab isnt building Herochat 6.0 ... but its building 5.7
Its not even attempting to build 6.0 sigh
jolly schooner
Anyone familiar with pipelines in gitlab?
zealous vessel
I kind of am
jolly schooner
hmm well its running on Master but not Legacy branch...
err
"only is commented out...but maybe its not taking it
Legacy is 60-70 commits behind, but i dont know why that would matter for the build/pipeline
oh wow..
it was because gitlab-ci.yml was gitlab.ci.yml
time for sleep!
solid wigeon
jolly schooner
okay.. sleep for real... but now im stuck at gitlab pipelines not building due to test failing... (one branch but not the other lol)
https://pastebin.com/zePKxiB6
coarse lily
Sometimes you just have to wait, unfortunately. It's quiet right now but check back later/tomorrow?
edgy palm
buoyant pagoda
Can anyone recommend a LifeSteal SMP with 25 - 80 players and is 24/7 and not super laggy?
Please ping me when replying, and thanks in advance!
potent fossil
@buoyant pagoda you will have better luck asking in syscraft or some other minecraft community that focuses more on server advertisement, paper is a development and support server and you probably won't get much help finding that here. not that we dont want to help but because we don't know. try syscraft, but im not totally sure about that either. see #community-guilds
Larry don't kill plz I'm unarmed
I just got exploded by a creeper
swift root
Try r/joinaserver on Reddit - syscraft is pretty strict on not allowing people to ad their own servers! :D @buoyant pagoda
potent fossil
o good 2 know
swift root
Not a worry for you Mr. Simple, you're safe from my wrath
potent fossil
love u
swift root
Love u 2 ofc always
dreamy rapids
Anyone familiar with pipelines in gitlab?
me
I have been using them for several months
to test, build and deploy my applications
cedar spade
ok
meager tusk
https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1476293956153581578
In other news, did you know that you can only kiss yourself on the lips in the mirror? - Neil
cedar spade
hello Idriz
meager tusk
👋
fast turret
void void
potent fossil
Why is he obsessed
magic river
I thought the whole point of Don't Look Up was that we ignore what scientists are saying about climate change and are distracted with useless bullshit
meager tusk
I thought the whole point of Don't Look Up was that we ignore what scientists ar...
I haven't watched the movie, but whatever the message may be, people will just scream "so true!!!" for about a week before being distracted by the next thing.
This movie might line pockets, but it won't change public perception about anything one bit.
magic river
Yeah I just mean NdT is trying to sound like he is giving some hot take on my the movie but that's literally the point of the movie
golden gust
dopamine culture be here and here to stay
meager tusk
Yeah I just mean NdT is trying to sound like he is giving some hot take on my th...
I only liked him in the Cosmos series because he's a good narrator. Other than that, he's just a boastful prick who tries to one-up people.
Not sure why.
worn ember
In other news, did you know that you can only kiss yourself on the lips in the m...
You can also do it on water or clear ice.
meager tusk
You can also do it on water or clear ice.
Please do it in Siberia.
On thin ice.
Nothing will happen.
magic river
If Siberia has any thin ice we're in bigger trouble than I thought
meager tusk
You deserve it.
worn ember
I want snow :(
I'ma be able to tell my kids that back in the day we used to have real snow
meager tusk
I'ma be able to tell my kids that back in the day we used to have real snow
Gonna be able to tell my kids that back in the day I survived a pandemic.
And they're gonna be like.
"Dad, which one?"
"Covid."
"That's still going on."
topaz mortar
Gonna be able to tell my kids that back in the day I survived a pandemic.
I hope that. But at the current state you cannot say that. 🙂
meager tusk
Read the next messages.
magic river
At this point we're a couple more rounds of mutation away from either zombies or vaccinated people just getting a cold (we're almost there already) so we just add it to kids vaccine regiments and forget about it
potent fossil
It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent Paper's denizens are.
magic river
We're never getting rid of it
magic river
I pick up a new PhD every year or so, just to keep things interesting
potent fossil
Ouch.
meager tusk
Now I have a PHD in Computer Science, Astrophysics, and doing your mother.
potent fossil
Proxi was telling me earlier about a degree program in sweden and how it costs 11k euro and i was like
"um"
"i pay more than that just to live on campus, before tuition."
that was the ENTIRE PROGRAM
😭
meager tusk
I'm applying to US colleges.
Only attending if I get a scholarship, though.
Your prices are nuts 🐒
potent fossil
yes
I was legitimately told by one of my advisors that going into 100k of debt is ok because my degree will pay it off in less than 10 years.
And i was like "um"
"ok"
meager tusk
It's a little weird, why does your country not just do it like Germany does?
potent fossil
because america
meager tusk
They've got amazing universities and they cost like 200 euros per semester or something, and that's just administrative fees
magic river
Dorms used to be brick shit boxes, now they're hotel rooms
meager tusk
I would love to go to Germany but I suck at German lol
magic river
And the middle management took over and sucked up all the money
potent fossil
basically they're run as businesses, not as public benefits
so, that's why
you're paying for a commodity
meager tusk
Sounds backwards
potent fossil
magic river
DED was about to call JRoy on us
worn ember
theres a parasite that causes zombie behavior in ants
magic river
Yes I've seen The Last of Us as well 😛
potent fossil
its a fungus i think ded
worn ember
magic river
(actually read about that in some "101 crazy facts" book as a kid)
potent fossil
it makes the ant leave the hive or whatever and go sit on a branch and then just wait to die while the fungus eats it
potent fossil
fungi are actually really cool albeit terrifying, they got that whole mycelial network thing goin on, basically sentient
meager tusk
63 thousand dollars for a year?
magic river
There is one that controls the ant to make it an easy target for a bird since infecting that is the real goal
meager tusk
🐵
potent fossil
are you sure that's not for a semester
(so double that)
oh yeah nah
31,000 per semester so yep
its pretty sickening
potent fossil
yessir
get this though
that's a "public" university 
go look at a private university tuition
dartmouth
check that one
oh that one is actually pretty close to uc boulder
meager tusk
that's a "public" university <:rtx_boi:754618888901099621>
Sorry, public?
The government is making you pay that much for a public university?
worn ember
nature truly is terrifying
meager tusk
nature truly is terrifying
Rabies scares me because of how you actually turn into an uncontrollable zombie
You try to infect other people
potent fossil
magic river
Semester
meager tusk
That's still quite absurd
And the reason it costs that much is because if you live in Colorado you won't need to live on campus, probably
potent fossil
these prices are typically including housing and food (which ofc is necessary) but if you're lucky enough to live close to it with parents or smth you can save a few thousand, and if your parents feed you you can save a few thousand more
but, still
magic river
In 1972 it was $440 a semester, inflation calculator says that should be $2,925 now
That sounds more reasonable
meager tusk
440 a semester that's actually quite cheap
potent fossil
well, keep in mind that was 1972 and per inflation that's 2925 in today's dollars
so it'd be equivalent to 2925 then
(aka 440 in 1972 had the buying power than 2925 does in 2021)
magic river
$3k a semester is firmly in the realm of part time jobs being able to take care of it or parents being able to handle it
meager tusk
$3k a semester is firmly in the realm of part time jobs being able to take care ...
Yep
But 13 thousand is excessive
potent fossil
yeah exactly, which is why it's so annoying that facebook boomers are like "i put myself through school with a part time job and honest hard work why cant they lazy fucking kids do that?!?!!?!"
and we're looking at them like
"um"
magic river
School costs more than those boomers make a year now 😛
potent fossil
yeah but they're too stupid to absorb that
anyway ima watch some netflix then sleep
magic river
Not more than they made a year back then, more than they make today
potent fossil
yup
meager tusk
For international students the only real options are applying to the top universities in the US
I can't imagine what it's like for domestic students
magic river
Amusingly it's cheaper for poor people to go to Harvard than their local state school
meager tusk
I can always fall back on my country, but Americans
potent fossil
yea i applied to 8 unis in california and we'll find out if i got into any in a few months, but regardless of which it is im looking at some hefty debt in any case, so, it is what it is.
thankfully i've only got 2 years of it though instead of 4 since i completed half of my degree at a community college
which is sick in its own right that that's necessary, just to afford an education
but 
magic river
Like, the big ivy league schools have so much money banked they can afford to scale tuition to your income level
potent fossil
anyway netflix, then sleep, for realizies, bai
magic river
Or to your parents rather
meager tusk
The universities in Kosovo aren't great, but they're all free
Like, there's no fees at all
magic river
iirc if you make less than $50k/year Harvard just lets you in for free
Assuming you get accepted, of course 😛
meager tusk
In fact there was quite the protests because they had a 200 euro administrative fee
meager tusk
Assuming you get accepted, of course 😛
Which is nigh impossible
magic river
I'm so excited I couldn't sleep anymore, desk comes today
vast hazel
will it be done soon?
magic river
I went to bed kind of early (midnight) so I could sleep until closer to getting here
vast hazel
cause it has been a whole month
magic river
Then I ended up waking up at the same time I went to bed the day before
My desk hasn't been a whole month, I don't even have it yet 😛
It'll be done today though
Well, maybe tomorrow, I might get lazy
vast hazel
really!
magic river
Well, yeah, it's just a desk
plucky sparrow
@potent fossil hows nvme
vast hazel
oh
magic river
Not too much work to put together
vast hazel
i thought you were talking about paper 1.18 XD
magic river
If you're making a new map 1.18 is fine, just missing some features
vast hazel
im not
magic river
If you're updating an old map it's probably fine but take lots of backups, it still breaks on some things
If you used a datapack in 1.17 you're just going to live there forever, you can't upgrade those
magic river
Like, the people who used terralith or the experimental caves and cliffs datapack just don't get to upgrade
vast hazel
last time it took around 2 weeks
magic river
They need new maps or to get used to 1.17
vast hazel
why is it taking so long to make
magic river
For probably 90%+ of servers it was ready to use the day 1.18 came out
That just wasn't known then
vast hazel
its been double the time for the 1.17 and its still not done
magic river
Fuck you pay me?
vast hazel
wat
magic river
You're not paying anyone for this stuff
So it takes however long they want it to take
magic river
76k servers are on Paper 1.18 already
Just tell them to upgrade 😛
There are more 1.18 servers than 1.17 servers
Have been since ~3 weeks ago
vernal moth
theres like 3 times as many 1.18 servers than 1.17 servers on paper, lol
well not quite
but 55% of all paper servers use 1.18
"Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 248 commits, and can be fast-forwarded."
lol
I havent touched paper in a while
magic river
Sounds like since 1.18 came out
magic river
That's what I just said 😛
wow asus put the mosfets on backwards on one of their mobos, had to do a recall because they were catching fire
vernal moth
close enough
golden gust
Guys
wtf
Why isn't it
That during a fucking holiday
y'all arent racing around for blockgame?!
magic river
Children get 2 weeks off from school and are sitting around bored waiting for 1.18, that clearly means you should be working on it even harder
Oh hey it actually happened, macOS finally got a sane OpenGL stack
Well, "sane", it's Zink Gallium3D on Vulkan on MoltenVK on Metal
It supports compatibility contexts and more modern OpenGL features though! 😄
...at least the ones that can be plumbed through that mess of layers
crystal lilyBOT
Community contributed configuration guide for Paper: https://eternity.community/index.php/paper-optimization/
fleet storm
> 3 days ago.
lol
magic river
They think Mojang's naming is worse than view-distance not controlling the view and no-tick-view-distance being a thing so...
- rude
- I don't even have that channel, muted it ages ago
wow I forgot how much of a shitshow emulation on Windows is
Or at least how awful retroarch is
I have massive input latency, it sometimes moves a dozen times when I move once in a menu, it makes my monitor change modes a dozen times, and it crashes a lot
Makes the Windows 11 Auto HDR stuff lose its mind too, I have to turn HDR off and back on or I'm stuck at the lowest brightness my monitor can do
supple jay
someone know how to do an stress test for an server? (because last time in 10 member is crushed)
🤢
void void
I prefer eternity's solution
make a controversial 4chan post, and then reply using a different ip saying you found op's minecraft server
magic river
For real though, I haven't seen a synthetic stress test for a server that seemed any good
Like, I made one years ago that basically just stressed entity and block ticking, made dummy players that floated in random spots and couldn't be moved or hurt
I think there is one that tests chunk loading
worn ember
make a controversial 4chan post, and then reply using a different ip saying you ...
big brain time, or claim you have the oldest anarchy server in existance
and make a yt video about it
tribal rivet
hey, is this still up-to-date?
yes
safe plover
Any plugin and feature suggestions for a SMP server ? Everyone just likes to rush to a fully enchanted netherite set and then quit the server
Preferably free plugins, or ones that are opensource, so i can atleast build them myself.
glossy echo
Any plugin and feature suggestions for a SMP server ? Everyone just likes to rus...
ban netherite
theres a fun paintball plugin I use
lemme see if I can find the link
worn ember
i love how the sponge docs have pirate english
golden gust
slim shady?
little saddle
worn ember
fat legit is his alter ego
random tide
Wondering if anyone knows a plugin for this or how to do this: I have an area of my spawn sectioned off for a pvp area that has been built. When they walk into the area pvp is turned on. Preferably their inventory would be replaced with a standart pvp inventory, if not they can use their own items. When they die in this area they don't lose anything.
untold meadow
world guard?
viscid wedge
Any plugin and feature suggestions for a SMP server ? Everyone just likes to rus...
you might find Purpur features useful
random tide
world guard?
Thats what i was thinking maybe. Not sure about replacing the inventory tho which is ok. And i guess turn on keep inventory
worn ember
never thought i'd have to write this 
magic river
Ok we're in the time window for my desk delivery, time to see if I get lucky or not
Sometimes Fedex shows up around 11 (hour from now), other times it's more like 16 (hour after the delivery window)
Pretty much always one of those two
tired heath
What is like a good average speed of chunky in 1.18?
twin lagoon
depends on your hardware
have seen 80 - 100cps on high end hardware
would consider 60 - 70 cps good
tired heath
I see, than I have to check my setup with 40 cps
twin lagoon
what cpu do you have
tired heath
Not an optimal one for Minecraft AMD Epyc 7702 but still should do better
twin lagoon
that should not do better
twin lagoon
an epyc is not so epic for minecraft
tired heath
I know
frank otter
has anyone ever seen a pc stay alive or power button lit for like a good half minute after pulling the cable out
I think I fixed it but how common is it just wondering
vernal moth
Alive as in booted?
twin lagoon
that's normal
frank otter
led on
frank otter
the battery was out, I was trying to fix the cmos
I'm guessing it had some chunky capacitors running something
tired heath
yeah is caused by sun bursts hitting the earth atmosphere and generating negative loaded particle beams hitting your computer turning the led on. Or some capacitor just having some left over load keeping the led on – choose your story 😄
frank otter
OK that makes sense ty
vernal moth
When I plug out my laptop charge it holds the light for a solid minute
tired heath
Anyone by the way has a Fold 3, I ordered one but still don't feel like I could trust that display
magic river
That's the LED working as a resistive load to draw down the capacitors
Charger must have some big caps
golden gust
power supplies have beefy capacitors
magic river
That reminds me, I have this USB-C dock that plugs in to my power brick and then in to my laptop to charge it, found out it works the other way too
vernal moth
ever saw the caps in a solar inverter?
golden gust
chargers generally have discharge resistors to deal with that, but, depending on the size of the caps it can take a good moment, you don't want it shitting out power to try to drain the caps while it's running
vernal moth
am scared of those
magic river
If the power brick gets unplugged or loses power the dock will suck the life out of the laptop
void void
ooo
magic river
I just wanna poke them with a screwdriver
tired heath
Ohh lets play a "touch the capacitor" game with it
void void
sounds fun!
magic river
Think it'd weld the screwdriver in place before they discharged?
vernal moth
my dad causally does maintenance on that
void void
traumatised from electrolytic caps from when I popped one when I was like 7
cosmic raft
I just wanna poke them with a screwdriver
lick them like a 9v battery
vernal moth
"its fine if you don't touch the caps"
golden gust
It's all fun and games until you find yourself across the room
magic river
I noticed people in europe seem a lot more willing to do their own electrical work still
vernal moth
my dad is an electrician
magic river
Hell the stuff in the UK at least seems to have been designed to make that super easy to do
vernal moth
kinda
magic river
Like, they didn't go for the most efficient design, they went for the safest and easiest to work on
vernal moth
he also installed the charger for his leaf himself, but had to get some actual electrician to sign off on it
golden gust
Well, te UKs like somewhere been ultra safety and hands off
Like, I could install my own charger without any issues afaik
vernal moth
idk what his actual title is, he builds the electrical enclosures for machines which apply hot glue to stuff
tired heath
UK has funny power plugs and is driving on the wrong side of the road, that's what I say
vernal moth
hes not certified to do that kinda shit
magic river
I suppose I'm skewed by only seeing the stuff people thought was worth making a youtube video about but European makers seem okay messing with their house wiring a lot
vernal moth
oh we wired everything ourselfs at home
golden gust
UK power plugs are literally the best designed power plugs out there
magic river
They really are
vernal moth
I think only reason we needed to get somebody to sign up on the charge is because gov paid for the charger
tired heath
Talking to a euro guy what disagrees 😄
golden gust
and, they hae this really awesome feature, where if you drop one to the floor, there is a high chance that you'll end up with the plug blade side up
magic river
You can't even argue, the UK plug wins on basically ever metric except size
magic mesa
waiting for the tom scott video to appear
magic river
EU plugs are weird and you can put them in backwards
cosmic raft
the US/CA/JP plugs are the most stupid ones ever
magic river
Like, EU plugs are the size of UK plugs but don't have any of the features
void void
eu plugs can be much smaller
vernal moth
with the UK ones I would be concerned if they are as stable
golden gust
- every compliant plug is fused
- enforced polarisation
- enforced earth pin, even if double insulated (can be a plastic bin for double insulated)
- earth shutters which have only just started to make it more around
vernal moth
if you put in an EU plug, its not comming out unless you want to
golden gust
"as stable"
magic river
Ok, yeah, UK are bigger but compared to US plugs they're both massive 😛
frank otter
UK power plugs are literally the best designed power plugs out there
they're brilliant until you step on them they're so painful in the night
golden gust
The cable is towards the bottom, so, the wire is pulling out far before it's ripping out of the wall unless you're specifically tryna do that
magic river
You can replace the plug on basically everything too
golden gust
and, good news, the live is the shortest cable, next to neutral and earth last! So, even in worse case scanerio, woo!
twin lagoon
Like, EU plugs are the size of UK plugs but don't have any of the features
the full sized ones yes but you also have small ones
frank otter
another thing I like about the UK plugs is that the fuse is quite often very easy to get out of the plug itself and to replace
magic river
The fuse and the earth pin are the main things I like about the UK plug
twin lagoon
there is an EU plug with an earth pin in the socket
golden gust
the smaller UI plugs afaik are marginally slimmer than the UK ones but aren't fused, etc
yea, but not required
magic river
You can't have random shit in your house start drawing 15 amps due to a short and start a cheap cord on fire
The fuse is rated for what the device and cord can actually handle
vernal moth
there is an EU plug with an earth pin in the socket
tired heath
EU plugs have two versions yes with and without earth pin, what is highly regulated, while all installations must have an earth line
golden gust
exposed earth is kinda shitty, tbqh
twin lagoon
not in france either
iirc the thing at the top and bottom of a normal eu socket is ground too though
vernal moth
yes
twin lagoon
so it's not that bad
golden gust
I don't like it
golden gust
Like, at least it's not neutral, but, ew
warm anchor
EU outlet looks weird
worthy geode
so thats what that hole is for, I always wondered, never seen the socket with the pin anywhere
warm anchor
golden gust
Well, yea, it's stupid
Is there literally nothing to prevent an earthed plug being shoved into an unearhed socket?
worthy geode
are there even unearthed sockets?
tired heath
Also every new installation in EU must have a "fault current" switch turning of as soon something leaking
magic river
Oh yeah, fun fact, on at least the old school MagSafe design only some setups were grounded and they weren't the most common ones
tired heath
so is really not so bad
magic river
So if you ever felt like your MacBook Pro had an electrical current running through the chassis you were probably right
golden gust
that means that every existing insulation doesn't have a GFC
void void
So if you ever felt like your MacBook Pro had an electrical current running thro...
and here I was thinking I was crazy
rancid void
yo. YOOOOOOOO
worthy geode
I know that some old swiss sockets have no earth connection, but never seen that outside of switzerland
void void
and here I was thinking I was crazy
as in, 2013 mbps?
magic river
and here I was thinking I was crazy
The key is to use the extension cord
vernal moth
that means that every existing insulation doesn't have a GFC
pretty sure its mandatory for everything in germany
golden gust
for new installs
magic river
The plug that goes right on to the power brick is a 2 prong, no ground
rancid void
yo. YOOOOOOOO
All 3 (new) TombRaider games freeon Epic
magic river
The power brick has the ability to be grounded though and the extension cord is three prong and connects to that ground
golden gust
it's very rare that they require that you rip out your entire wiring and shit to update to the new regs for an existing install
magic river
iirc we still only require GFCI in certain setups in the US (at least in Iowa)
golden gust
there are places in the US which still have knob and tube wiring
vernal moth
its been required since 1984 cat
magic river
But I think last time I tried to parse the rules for it basically every outlet in my house should be GFCI
vernal moth
and if you renovate you gotta enforce new norms
golden gust
often only if you touch that shit
magic river
Like, I think at least one outlet on each wall is supposed to be GFCI?
But we never have more than one on a wall
vernal moth
if you renovate a room (touching the sustance) you gotta make sure your wiring is still up to current standards
magic river
To bring this place up to code you'd have to rip it down to the frame and start over
vernal moth
and yes, in germany any outlet has to be GFCI
magic river
The wiring is a mix of old knob and tube shit and really bad patch jobs
The plumbing is a mess too and I doubt is anything close to code
magic river
House was built in 1921 iirc (which coincidentally is also our house number)
golden gust
Yea
used in many placs
pretty sure, at least the indistrial standards, etc
DIN rails, etc
magic river
Gross, apparently even in the UK Apple didn't use a grounded plug for their power brick
Even though it's a 3 prong plug they just used plastic there
golden gust
Yea
magic river
The power brick has a fucking ground though
golden gust
They basically just use a bastardised figure 8 plug
magic river
vernal moth
I always thought DIN was EU cause it was so widely adapted
golden gust
Oh, wait, yea, so, theres the figure 8 and then theres that weird ass thing there
magic river
I think a lot of ISO stuff starts in DIN
golden gust
1 sec, lemmi go see my plug
magic river
spare venture
i could’ve swore that charger didn’t have a ground
golden gust
plug I've got has a metal pin, but, I can't be arsed pulling it out to see
magic river
Only if you use the extension cord for it
golden gust
The cable appears to
spare venture
ahh
golden gust
The standalone plug I have sooomewhere
magic river
The plug adapter that goes right on the power brick has no ground but the 3 feet extension that you can attach to it does
spare venture
it kinda bothers me that some laptop chargers don’t have a ground
or everything doesnt
golden gust
tbqh, bar the one I have, i've never really seen the non extention cable one
magic river
1.5'? I can't remember how long that was
golden gust
Well, it's double insulated
magic river
Anyway, all my shit is USB-C now so no ground for me
spare venture
i guess it wouldn’t matter if every outlet was GFCI
magic river
Well, it's double insulated
Then why does my 2015 MBP vibrate at 60Hz?
golden gust
Well
It's supposed to be
Think their chargers where kinda known to be shitty in terms of their seperation
cunning raft
it kinda bothers me that some laptop chargers don’t have a ground
oh they got a good ground
you just may not like it
spare venture
i found that apple charger to be really susceptible to fraying and damaging the rubber was really easy
worn ember
skin isn't very conductive though 
spare venture
ya not very fun when it has to go through you to reach the ground
golden gust
Yea, they changed the material they used years ago to be green
worn ember
thats why i wear my rubber crocs 
plucky sparrow
https://i.stack.imgur.com/jx9fs.png
that's ground? I thought it was just so you could fit a new plug
golden gust
and these cables basically start to leech after some time in UV exposure and shit
spare venture
yeah
golden gust
It's ground
magic river
That reminds me, the few days I was without my slippers I noticed I didn't get shocked nearly as often
golden gust
they use a figure 8 and so they need somewhere else to put the ground contact