general

[spare venture]

cheapest 3070 at micro center is $680 if you could ever find it in stock

cheapest 3090 is $1,919

[cosmic raft]

omg

HARRY POTTER: Return to Hogwarts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N90KOF7ZMU

[plucky sparrow]

No way

[left swift]

oh man

a reunion movie

that's gonna end well

oh it's like a documentary

ok good

[plucky sparrow]

@warm anchor I watched the ep about Doraemon’s birth and basically he’s a robot babysitter from the future, and he decided to “make the great grandfather’s life of the kid he takes care of in the future better” as a Christmas gift for the kid

Although it’s ehh because it starts and ends with a manga writer trying to figure out a good idea for his next creation

[true canyon]

3060ti for 540 is good for a third party (evga). And, for the flex,

[rare python]

I have just found this abomination

Why...

Why would someone do this.

[spare venture]

yeah i think the gpu manufacturers have embraced that people will buy them for whatever price they set and are taking full advantage of it vs console sticking to it

[spare venture]

what the fuck

[void void]

Depends on the context, sometimes just used as a way of temporarily disabling a method without commenting the entire thing out

[rare python]

But the method is not even used anymore

Another question is why the if statement? Just put return.

[spare venture]

console is an insane deal right now, $500 console equivalent of a $1000+ PC easily

[void void]

compiler will scream at you for unreachable code iirc

99% this bypasses that

[rare python]

Then just comment out the function...

[true canyon]

I feel like I'm part of why they stopped doing elite coupons the same way. Registered my old GPU, got big coupon, used it for new GPU.

[radiant oriole]

Can confirm, this is why. if(true) return; is the easiest way to just NOP an entire function everywhere.

[plucky sparrow]

intellij will cry then

[radiant oriole]

It’s not intellij, it’s literally the compiler that won’t let you do it

[plucky sparrow]

oh wait true

i would've gone the way of commenting out the code and having just a return though

[radiant oriole]

I’m not sure what the context is here but if we’re talking about patching, that’s not a great solution unless you want a merge conflict that’s annoying to resolve every time that function changes (which sometimes is desirable)

So I can’t say what approach I’d have taken because I don’t know the context of this change

[charred sleet]

omg @void void got a promotion

[spare venture]

i would still be happy about that GPU at $900 lol

hard to get for under $1200

[charred sleet]

i got a 3060ti at msrp

was like 450

[spare venture]

fortunately i dont really need a gpu for now, i can wait until either this shits over or my gpu stops working

where did you get yours? and when

[charred sleet]

scan, and teh start of january 2021

[plucky sparrow]

I'd avoid nvidia tbh

[spare venture]

scan?

[plucky sparrow]

AMD cards at least run on macOS :p

[charred sleet]

it’s a uk place

https://www.scan.co.uk

i got two, one for muh friend and one for me

[spare venture]

ah

[charred sleet]

i just happened to look one day and they had a tonne in stock

during like still the height of the shortage

but yeah, gl. i have a friend that is trying to get a 3070 rn but to no avail

[spare venture]

my friend was scalping cards from the evga queue and offered me a 3070 ftw3 for $1000 back in like march

[charred sleet]

lol should have taken it

so, paper has a lot of smart people

we should make the paper scalping bot

and buy the gpus with mini’s credit card

then, the members can buy it back

at a slightly marked up rate

generating money for paper, and credit card points for mini

seems foolproof

[void void]

@foggy silo got contributor role too

[foggy silo]

[charred sleet]

paper scraper wen

[spare venture]

nah i had already just paid $650 for a 1660 super

[charred sleet]

wtf

you got scammed

[spare venture]

theyre $750 now

[void void]

gotta use the opencollective money for something

[charred sleet]

OHHH YEAH

[spare venture]

lower end CPUs went up just like high end CPUs did lol

GPUs*

[charred sleet]

open collective -> buy gpus with paper scraper bot -> sell the gpus back to paper people at a small margin -> put money back in opencollective -> paper stonks

[short yarrow]

for those that use maven or gradle, do you guys specify an explicit version of your dependencies? apparently you can do like 2.x for the version and x will be the latest minor version, but you just have to rebuild your code. this feels pretty convenient

[golden gust]

Yes

http://www.javadude.com/posts/20040522-import-on-demand-is-evil/

basically a more glorified version of that

part of the idea of all this fancy shit is that builds are reproducable

[limber knot]

true i think

[brave radish]

^, it would be one thing if there were a magic way to always run the latest minor for your version of a semver-respecting project, but having it magically change the version when you compile it doesn't seem to have much benefit given it could just as easily simply tell you there's a new version

[left swift]

hol up

[golden gust]

I live having the staff channels to get away from the horrors within this community

I don't want it to infultrate my staff channels

[left swift]

the staff channels are the horrors in this community cat

[golden gust]

Already annoyed that Noah got in

I mean... er....

[left swift]

u cant talk tho u sit in #paper-help all day

u do this to urself

[golden gust]

and that's why I used to take crazy people medicine

[plucky sparrow]

noah can see staff channels?

[left swift]

noah changed frfr

[plucky sparrow]

@void void i think we could match pfps again..

[left swift]

wow

daps true colors

[golden gust]

I gotta relearn what all the channels are again

[plucky sparrow]

stop throwing bricks at me you bastard

[limber knot]

No

[void void]

Only if it's a really good one

[plucky sparrow]

wait

bet?

[limber knot]

marriage repaired?

[left swift]

aren't u banned

[limber knot]

aren't you unable to walk?

[plucky sparrow]

Perhaps 🥰

[limber knot]

good to know!

[left swift]

still ableist

[plucky sparrow]

that is worse than pokimane nomana

[left swift]

it's not pokimane

[limber knot]

yeah wtf nomana

[plucky sparrow]

no but its worse

[left swift]

wasnt apart of the deal

bring a lawyer next time

[limber knot]

:nerd:

[plucky sparrow]

slayy

[void void]

hello

[limber knot]

omg spiderman

the real spiderman ????

[vernal moth]

I'll search for an English version spiderman

[void void]

yeah

[left swift]

[granite slate]

Hi guys. Does anyone know if apache common lang support sha 256 chesum validation?

[limber knot]

Idk who that is

[void void]

British Spiderman?

[tropic flame]

spoiderm8

[vernal moth]

I think this with Turkish subtitles

[void void]

Spiderman that drinks light tea with honey

[vernal moth]

https://youtu.be/320Lng4EXEg

[void void]

Turkish Spiderman drinks black tea turkey stronK cCc

[limber knot]

hello

!kickban HelveticaToast Ban evasion

[twin lagoon]

what

[void void]

Based

[void void]

Based video

[vernal moth]

Basically German satirical show, presenter talks about freedom of speech and brings out this poem as an example for what is not ok to say

[void void]

Based show

[golden gust]

urgh

[tropic flame]

1984
runs

[golden gust]

they're speaking in "lost the war"

[vernal moth]

But basically it's what Germans think about Erdogan

[void void]

well that was short lived

[void void]

Based Germans

[plucky sparrow]

helvetica 😔

[tropic flame]

imagine banning a font

comic sans should've never been banned

[void void]

btw I just bought this game, gonna play it soon

[potent fossil]

hello

[void void]

hello

hello

[plucky sparrow]

hello my very beautiful simple

[potent fossil]

i woke up super early bc my booster shot do be makin me feel a little fucky wucky

but it's ok

[void void]

hi simple

[void void]

I took a booster shot for once, only for Omicron variant thingy

1 day arm ached

then OK

[tropic flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688792980303249495/923932749050568704/20211224_132833.jpg

sorry bro but you needed this one

[void void]

facts

[potent fossil]

first shot i had no side-effects, 2nd shot kicked my ass, 3rd shot i just got a headache and feel very dehydrate(TM)

[void void]

It is a funny meme lol

[plucky sparrow]

is it bad if I made a game controller-only

[vernal moth]

It's really interesting how people react to the vaccines

[void void]

Wait what?

2 normal shots + 3 booster shots?

[vernal moth]

3 shots biontech, first I had a bit of pain in the arm, like normal muscle pain, the last two ones absolutely nothing

[plucky sparrow]

same but I haven't had my 3rd shot

[tropic flame]

i took the Janssen one a few months ago and i had this fever where i was perfectly fine, aside from being hot asf

[void void]

Every person have different immune systems

[plucky sparrow]

the 2nd shot wrecked me

[vernal moth]

Yeah

[tropic flame]

i literally felt normal, just hot

[void void]

Same, but 2nd shot got me incredibly exhausted at night

[vernal moth]

Humans are weird man

[tropic flame]

like I could run a marathon

just hot asf

[potent fossil]

etern and I had the exact same reactions at 2nd shot

i woke up at 3am and i was like "oh, i am about to be very sick"

and then i was very sick

[fallen oracle]

How are you feeling today simple?

[golden gust]

every shot I've had I lost my sleep schedule for the week

[plucky sparrow]

i got sick like 10-12 hours after getting my 2nd dose

[potent fossil]

i'm alright, just headache and really dehydrated even tho im drinking a shitload of water

[fallen oracle]

You don't even have a sleep schedule to begin with cat.

[golden gust]

Like, I just get into this weird like, euphoric state thing and then I've gotta like, not sleep for 24 hours type of shit cos I can't

and, just, woo...

[void void]

Cat losing his sleep schedule means he sleeps at normal times, very scary stuff

[golden gust]

3rd shot next month potentially

[plucky sparrow]

tb to this morning where i went to sleep at 8am

[potent fossil]

I'm still kinda annoyed about the schedule/no schedule thing for my 3rd shot tho. I specifically made an appt for 4pm, so I arrive at 4pm and they're like "You were supposed to be here at 3:45pm." And I show them the card I got that says 4pm and they were like "Yeah, but ... 3:45."

Just, what

Then put that on the card

[golden gust]

I mean, pretty much everything appointment based expects you to be there early so you can sign in on the system beforehand

[potent fossil]

I'll bet some people who make appts end up not getting boosters bc of shit like that

[vernal moth]

I am not sure anyone needed that one tbh

[potent fossil]

Cause it's just so much hassle

I mean yeah but recently it's been common courtesy here not to do that cat

In my town specifically

Esp. regarding covid stuff

[void void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796762416955261019/914158785323474984/817230_polska-szczepionka.mp4

[potent fossil]

Why did he sip it

[granite slate]

Does anyone know if apache common - io have a method for downloading, checksum validation and extraction all in one?

[potent fossil]

No but you could very easily make that

[twin lagoon]

Hello pimple

Do you have your SSD yet

[potent fossil]

It's out for delivery

[granite slate]

Ok thanks

[plucky sparrow]

omg yes

finally

[potent fossil]

And my "No" was "I don't know that"

[twin lagoon]

What if it does not get delivered today

[plucky sparrow]

congratulations simple

[potent fossil]

Michael please do not bully me

[plucky sparrow]

what if it does not fit

[potent fossil]

dap

good vibes in this chat only

[plucky sparrow]

what if the nvme does not work

[potent fossil]

stop

MODS! I'm being harrassed

[plucky sparrow]

or what if your motherboard is broken and the m2 slot does not work

[vernal moth]

dw simple, you can still use it in sata mode

[potent fossil]

I will leave now because I am sad

MINI NO

[plucky sparrow]

you can just plug it in a pcie slot

[potent fossil]

Somehow that is even worse

[plucky sparrow]

dw

[potent fossil]

wait was that legitimately an option this whole time

[vernal moth]

thank you, I am a master of my art

[plucky sparrow]

well no you need an adapter

[potent fossil]

fuck

[plucky sparrow]

don't be sad

chances are 80% that it will work

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJk6gZuPKRE #Classix

[plucky sparrow]

why do you remove the embed

[golden gust]

makes it more fun, really

[plucky sparrow]

i dont want to open the link

thats more steps

im lazy

[golden gust]

der

[plucky sparrow]

good

[potent fossil]

I remember being like 11 and watching youtube tutorials for random shit, and that along with "Let the bodies hit the floor" were simply the soundtrack to my life back in those days

As well typing and breathing because they didn't want to talk or didn't think they had a mic but, did, and then didn't know how to or didn't realize they had an extra audio channel included

[spare venture]

my reaction to the 2nd shot was similar to my reaction to getting covid, except getting covid the symptoms lasted longer and i have a cough

[golden gust]

black sillohette computer wallpaper type vibe era?

[spare venture]

which makes sense

[potent fossil]

oh yes

windows 7, black silhouette wallpaper with text that reads something about hacking or anonymous or something equally edgy, paralyzer playing in background, windows shell modified to be green or red or something, using cmd with green on black

all of the above

[spare venture]

i didnt get my booster because the only dates i could since dec 1st were the 23rd (day of my flight lol) and like mid january

[potent fossil]

bonus points for background cmd running tree repeatedly on their C drive

[spare venture]

i guess there's not a huge point to me getting the booster now

[potent fossil]

i mean i just had covid as well but got booster anyway

[cunning raft]

there is!

[potent fossil]

and where ya flying

[cunning raft]

antibodies from the virus itself wane faster iirc

[true canyon]

Get dat boosta!

[limber knot]

10 weeks is what they're saying for the boosters and omi

[golden gust]

So, er...

[potent fossil]

@twin lagoon https://owo.whats-th.is/3kbnbVT.png

[spare venture]

so do you think you'll be taking a booster every few months for the next few years?

[potent fossil]

why do they do this

it just makes it hurt more

[true canyon]

[Literally coming here after seeing an awful nextdoor post flooded by antivaxxers, so hey everybody get your booster!]

[spare venture]

i'll still probably get booster just because

[spare venture]

back to seattle

[potent fossil]

just telling me "it's down the street but your dumbass still gotta wait"

[true canyon]

I imagine it'll get rolled in with yearly influenza shot for convenience

[potent fossil]

is that home

[golden gust]

Kinda like when you're fake throwing the ball

[potent fossil]

or

[golden gust]

and the doggo is just there like, RUFF, DO IT, RUFF

[spare venture]

it is home for me yeah

[potent fossil]

[jolly schooner]

so this is a random question that i assume someone may know...
Can you have a gitlab wiki page that is public viewable if the project itself is private?

[golden gust]

I swear i've seen people do that

[spare venture]

i flew home for the holidays and immediately caught covid lol

[golden gust]

but, idk, i love my data, so

.gitlab

[limber knot]

[14:05:44] <Z750> brb moving all my repos to DROP TABLE hosting

[spare venture]

not sure where i picked it up

[potent fossil]

Well, I found a feature request for that Kainzo but it's closed and I can't find any reason why

[jolly schooner]

oh goodie... lol

[potent fossil]

Although this man got ratioed for his suggestion https://owo.whats-th.is/24wKykj.png

[spare venture]

lmao

[jolly schooner]

I want to have a wiki for Heroes that isnt on Spigot... and on the same area that I host the private repo.. ill just create a new repo

[golden gust]

and there was some country which wasn't sure about a 4th booster as they're kinda worried that their data doesn't show a nee for it and they're scare that theres only so many shots you can do before it starts fucking up your own immune system against the virus itself

so

[waxen panther]

Make your code public 😄😄😄

[jolly schooner]

you know

[waxen panther]

I know

[golden gust]

This shall be in interesting few weeks or whatever to see what comes up

[jolly schooner]

Its been 10 years in development, I wouldnt mind making it public

[jolly schooner]

its a premium plugin though

[golden gust]

herochat?

[jolly schooner]

Heroes

[waxen panther]

you won’t lose many buyers, especially if it’s on gitlab

[jolly schooner]

and herochat

[golden gust]

oh

[potent fossil]

just do what everyone else is doing, make code public, but they gotta compile it and support it themselves if they don't pay

[true canyon]

Bunch of the top premium plugins on spigot are properly GPLv3 and even publicly shared source regardless of purchase.

[void void]

gpl premium plugins 😍

[jolly schooner]

it would be nice to have people actually MR to fix shit

[golden gust]

At the end of the day, if people aren't gonna pay for your shit

[jolly schooner]

i cant keep this shit alive for another 10 years

[golden gust]

they're just gonna not use it or pirate it

[spare venture]

how long has it been 10% off

[golden gust]

So, like, 🤷‍♂️

[true canyon]

You'd get even more devs helping if you put it on GitHub instead 😄

[jolly schooner]

@spare venture forever D: D: D:

marketing tactic

[golden gust]

might as well get the boost to the top of the page on stats charts and roll in the extra visibility or whatever you get

[spare venture]

illegal* marketing tactic

[golden gust]

https://tenor.com/bo9Ui.gif

idk who tf that is, but, yea

[spare venture]

shouldnt admit to that kind of stuff openly lol

[jolly schooner]

not in ameribrtos

[waxen panther]

oh my god minecraft plugin discounted forever 😭😭

[jolly schooner]

Contact the FBI, quick

though, I will say im bothered by those stores that are ALWAYS going out of business

[spare venture]

already done, kiddo

[jolly schooner]

this chud, is making me feel good

[spare venture]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-navy_seal-gif-5413741

[potent fossil]

ohmygodfuckoffitsaminecraftpluginnoonecaresaboutillegalmarketingtacticstheonlythingthathappenedtokangaroowasgettingbannedandthenhejustrantoadifferentmarketplacetocontinueit.jpg

[jolly schooner]

i cant read that fast, please slow down

[golden gust]

you don't recognise...

[jolly schooner]

Oh... $20 is the max price you can charge for a plugin, I think on spigot

[golden gust]

tf...

[potent fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMhW7vsg6BA

[golden gust]

that's as much of a classic as the fitness gram pacer test

[spare venture]

well yeah kangraoo was only banned because he made md5 mad, not because he broke any rules

[potent fossil]

indeed borty

[golden gust]

he broke many rules

constantly

even broke the law a few times

Like, the fact that he wasn't banned sooner is the real kicker of it all

[tropic flame]

kangaroos have enough consciousness to break the law??

[void void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dna792reuvI better version

[potent fossil]

lock the discord! go on 2 hour rant about how you were not being unfair and that you just banned him and that it is unacceptable the community demanded it in the way they did

[jolly schooner]

I missed out who is kangeroo?

[potent fossil]

kangarko

[spare venture]

there are only a couple rules that'll get you punished, mentioning paper, trying to bypass the paypal requirement, i forget what else

[jolly schooner]

Isnt paper like x10 in size as spigot?

[spare venture]

no

[potent fossil]

more than that at this point im pretty sure, in terms of use

[jolly schooner]

Discord is waaaaaaay more populated

10k members sitting here, 800 in spigs

[golden gust]

Kangaroo's aint the issue

[spare venture]

its significantly more popular but 10x is a lot

[golden gust]

It's those damned emu's

[potent fossil]

https://kennytv.eu/secretgraph/

not quite x10

[spare venture]

spigots main attractive quality is their resource repository

[jolly schooner]

Paper > Online - 11770...
Spigot > Online - 2646

[golden gust]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War

😄

[jolly schooner]

So not 10 times

[potent fossil]

it's x6.1

[jolly schooner]

MY BAD

[spare venture]

i guess if you're only including the latest version

[jolly schooner]

@true canyon you're old as dirt

[spare venture]

an insult to dirt

[potent fossil]

yea if you include 1.17-1.18.1 then x4.2

include everything (1.11-1.18.1) then x2.8 but whatever

it's larger

[spare venture]

ya

[true canyon]

You too buddy! ❤️

It's been a while.

[spare venture]

just needs a damn resource repository

[jolly schooner]

It has been a while, I feel like Spike waking up from a dream

[potent fossil]

yeah mini

[jolly schooner]

I also dont have a cool role or title here, which is a nice change, haha

[spare venture]

what will come out sooner, hangar or hytale

[foggy veldt]

Isn’t kangarko the Minecraft bootcamp guy?

[golden gust]

want one?

[potent fossil]

yes

[foggy veldt]

People are actually upset he got banned?

[potent fossil]

no

[spare venture]

people are upset he didnt get banned sooner

[golden gust]

idk anybody that was upset that he got yeeted

[tropic flame]

danmachi

based

[jolly schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/meh-mediocre-so-so-kinda-maybe-gif-13935570

[potent fossil]

http://mineacademy.net

[golden gust]

he literally broke rule after rule multiple times

[spare venture]

there were parades once he was finally banned

[golden gust]

got pissed when people ^

[true canyon]

I have yet to see anyone upset.

[cedar spade]

He didn't get yeeted, he became self-reliant ||/s||

[golden gust]

Like, somebody wrote a doc about the shit he did

[foggy veldt]

Oh I misinterpreted

[jolly schooner]

Why was this guy important enough to talk about? im so behind

[golden gust]

He literally DMCA'd them for sharing screenshots of it

[potent fossil]

somebody

read the doc i sent kainzo

it'll fill you in

[spare venture]

i think if you showed random people on the street a picture of his face and asked "would you punch this guy", most would say yes

[golden gust]

Er, general gist is that he had a shitty overpopular chat plugin

[potent fossil]

I think the assets are disappearing now because shitty image hosts but spigot was literally plastered with ads for his shit

[jolly schooner]

oh, so hes a head case lol

[potent fossil]

absolutely plastered

[spare venture]

if you google his name in images they are all over

[golden gust]

and then basically decided to make a spigot course, all the while knowing very little,to teach people java around his shitty over-engineered shittily designed framework which is really just a lock-in tool

[true canyon]

I liked the part where he made an updated version of his paid plugin, that everyone had to buy again.

[golden gust]

We literally made some API change somewhere or something

[jolly schooner]

ohh i heard about ChatControl

[golden gust]

he started getting all flustered asking people to tell him exactly what to do to fix it

[spare venture]

mbaxter my favorite part was how he promised that he was working on a major update to fix all of the bugs because it was basically unusuable, then he fucking released it as a separate paid plugin

[potent fossil]

oh god what have i done

[spare venture]

i am very glad that venturechat is solid now

[true canyon]

I recently went looking into somebody's "better than [thing mbaxter maintains]" plugin and it was like 70% kangarko's nonsense and whole thing was terrible. This dev also has a few paid plugins and I wonder if they're just like that.

[golden gust]

You've finally brought the community together

hating over one man

[jolly schooner]

Hate keeps man alive

[golden gust]

👏

[jolly schooner]

❤️

[potent fossil]

im healing the rift between us all

[spare venture]

he did accidentally leak chat control-red's source a while back i believe

[prime pawn]

I am on the fence. I am considering making it so players have the same effect as though they had armor but without it so players can see the custom skins easier (skins change based on selected kits for minigame) but I think it would cause confusion. What are your thoughts?

[cedar spade]

Don't forget he also announced a "partnership" with JetBrains where he got free trial codes for IntelliJ and gives them to paying students

[true canyon]

Found this in my archives :3

[turbid oar]

🤔

[spare venture]

i have never seen that before lmfao

i am definitely one of his top haters

making that my spigot signature

[jolly schooner]

oh SNAP

there is a way to make the wiki accessible by everyone

[potent fossil]

[jolly schooner]

https://i.imgur.com/7ga3NOe.png

[spare venture]

please make sure that hangar has signatures

[golden gust]

Knew there was

I said that there was

ha!

[spare venture]

very important

[golden gust]

am smrt

[turbid oar]

Havent been on papermc discord for a while heh

[vernal moth]

Reee

[jolly schooner]

I should be working right now, but this chat is far more entertaining

[potent fossil]

what does hangar actually need atm, is there a solid list

lets dogpile that motherfucker

[spare venture]

a developer runs

[void void]

The hangar issues page i guess?

[golden gust]

there be an issue tracker

[potent fossil]

done this weekend

[golden gust]

sunday meetings

[true canyon]

Hangar's having regular meetings.

[vernal moth]

Where do I know the Kainzo name from?

[void void]

a design runs

[vernal moth]

It's awfully familiar

[golden gust]

Heros and other abominations

[potent fossil]

is everyone invited to the regular meetings

[void void]

They're public, yes

[jolly schooner]

Okay, I spoke to soon about the wiki... your project has to be "public" and then apparently you can control to what level each segment is shown publicly... very interesting

[potent fossil]

where's the schedule

ill put it in my calendar

[vernal moth]

There even is a discord event!

[void void]

https://discord.com/events/855123416889163777/922244413395185754

[golden gust]

yea, from what I've seen, public project and then you can make the code private, I think?

[potent fossil]

you expect me to know what the hell a discord event is

[jolly schooner]

I've been in Minecraft dev/server scene since hMod / bukkit

[spare venture]

wtf spigot

[potent fossil]

ok

[golden gust]

I mean, I don't use gitlab but I know I've seen repos do that stuffs

[vernal moth]

Where you on the ircs?

[golden gust]

max height for banners, need to scale it

[jolly schooner]

yessir

[spare venture]

i see

[jolly schooner]

IRC is dead and that makes me sad

[vernal moth]

Yeah

[limber knot]

It's not dead, it's resting!

[vernal moth]

IRC times were simpler times

[spare venture]

the preview did that show that limit

[limber knot]

It can be alive again

[void void]

damnit mbax

[true canyon]

^_^

[golden gust]

spigot got a discord and then basically the IRC there went from kinda ded to very ded

[spare venture]

god xenforo is so bad

[vernal moth]

But IRC at our scale would also kinda be a pain

[potent fossil]

where in the UI is discord events, wtf

[vernal moth]

Imagine 30k people in an IRC channel

[potent fossil]

am i behind on updates

[limber knot]

IRC FOREVERRR

[golden gust]

at the top of the channels list

[spare venture]

if there's an event it hides the server banner

[void void]

I am convinced at least 80% of people in here wouldn't figure out how to use irc

[spare venture]

which is really stupid

[golden gust]

fwiw

[potent fossil]

oh god, forgot hangar has own discord

[golden gust]

he's called simple for a reason

smh

bro

your like, months behind here

[potent fossil]

my brain just do be like that

[spare venture]

its okay his mind has been focused on waiting for a screw to arrive

[jolly schooner]

https://gitlab.com/herocraft/Heroes

sweet, it works

[true canyon]

New clients (thelounge for example) would be fine enough for folks popping in for help, but with the lack of persistence in public web chats you wouldn't see big adoption. The only place offering something pretty good on features on a large scale is run by a psychopath (freenode, post-takeover).

[spare venture]

why is it so disgusting

[potent fossil]

still is

[golden gust]

I mean, think about how active this chat is vs how many people are in the discord

[true canyon]

Best wiki.

[spare venture]

^

[jolly schooner]

yah, lol, i dont remember pasting that, but gg

[golden gust]

big thing for dumcord as already noted is the persistence aspect and the social media aspect

[spare venture]

IRC is pretty awful by comparison, gonna be honest

[golden gust]

everybody is already here

[spare venture]

i dont miss it

[jolly schooner]

I remember the STONKS discord being brought down by discord devs cause "stonks go nuts"

[golden gust]

irc had some pros

e.g. sane moderation tools

[jolly schooner]

I see discord like netflix killing napster.. people are just lazy and want it all in one place

[spare venture]

especially since you guys are on esper right? i dont think the majority of people would know to get a bouncer and wouldnt enjoy having their hostname leaked

my old host name was literally something like columbus.rr.net

[worn ember]

Hangar release date?

[jolly schooner]

@true canyon whats that event fer

[golden gust]

I mean, for the most part, nobody gives a shit

[jolly schooner]

someone give me the 4-11 on hangar, im a newb with all this fancy talk

[worn ember]

Ik i dont

[spare venture]

for the most part

until you get swatted

[golden gust]

I guess it's part of the ettique and shit and general gate keeper ness of IRC requiring extra steps, etc

was always fun when people would join, start doing shit, leave, and then come back with a new nick acting like somebody new

and it's like, bruh, we can see your hostmask

[spare venture]

lol

[magic river]

Hi, welcome to peak #ubuntu on freenode

A screen full of text went past at least once a minute

[golden gust]

https://isfreenodedeadyet.com

[magic river]

You needed to stay strictly on topic, we didn't have the bandwidth to deal with offtopic stuff in there (not that you were likely able to follow it anyway)

[rancid void]

https://www.mrman314.tech/minecraft_on_discord

[magic river]

Our support was a bit of a shotgun approach because someone would ask one question, possibly vague, and we'd need to try to give them their answer in a single response

[golden gust]

thing is that people sus that like, discord magically solves something here

[magic river]

So they'd get a link to a 5 page wiki that takes them from the simplest thing that could possibly fix it to ripping half the OS apart

[golden gust]

and, it doesn't

only pro is that it's easier to spread out

[tropic flame]

replace Netflix with Spotify since Napster is a music service 😛

[magic river]

Our problem wasn't that we couldn't spread out, it's that we actually had 30k people trying to talk 😛

Instead of here where it's easy enough to idle that everyone just does

[golden gust]

Yea, it's just people seem to think that discord really solves something here

which, it doesn't

#ubuntu-1 #ubuntu-2 wen?

[magic river]

We had a support channel for every language, a support channel for any subprojects, an offtopic channel (including some for other languages), and a channel for every development team

We didn't want to split up the main channel via round robin forwards like that since it would make it harder to moderate and less likely someone would get an answer

Usually the channels for other languages were a combination support channel and hangout for the team trying to ensure Ubuntu was translated to their language and represented at local Linux events

[twin lagoon]

@golden gust can you help me with paper mc on version 1.12.2?
i keep getting lag spikes. how do i report the issue?
amaranth. she's inactive it seems

[golden gust]

!ban @manic hawk no ping, unsupported version is unsupported, bye

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned lambdaguy101#9790 (no ping, unsupported version is unsupported, bye) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

[drifting path]

Does anyone know how he has this different IntelliJ design on w11? with those borders I find it helpful to code

[magic river]

That's not Windows

IntelliJ is running as a Linux app inside WSL2

With the WSLg feature (W11 only)

[void void]

The white borders are because of WSLg ^

[pastel reef]

Hello, every time I log into a server in 1.18.1, my pc freezes, what should I do?

[magic river]

Turn down the server's view-distance

[golden gust]

throw PC out of window

live a simple life

be happi

or smth

[drifting path]

😂

[drifting path]

but what are the advantages of that?

[golden gust]

Well, papers tooling works much faster on linux

[magic river]

https://eternity.community/index.php/minecraft-client-optimization/ might help but the real solution(s) are probably going to be turning down the server view-distance, getting a new PC, or waiting for Paper to maybe get the ability to limit chunks to the client's view-distance

[drifting path]

ooh I see

[golden gust]

So, running IJ on linux is gonna be much faster vs running it locally

[drifting path]

wait

hes running IntelliJ

[magic river]

paperclip and the patching process are faster on Linux and it's a PITA to cross the Windows/WSL2 boundary

[drifting path]

on the same machine of the server

?

[golden gust]

on WSL

[drifting path]

now I get it

[magic river]

WSL2 isn't a separate machine

[void void]

.g what is WSL

[golden gust]

WSLg is the windowing system thing

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Windows Subsystem for Linux A compatibility layer for running Linux binary executables natively on Windows 10 and Windows... (https://duckduckgo.com/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux?v=i&kp=1)

[pastel reef]

My problem is solved, changed the memory allocator from async to swap.

[magic river]

Those aren't real words

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

Well, the words are real, but that's just word salad

[void void]

I changed the blockchain garbage collection database to cloud storage

[pastel reef]

Is 40 fps with 10 chunk render distance good for an Intel Core Duo P8600?

[rancid void]

Just use Linux directly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/919925356029435904.png?size=48

[rancid void]

Uh I guess?

[warm anchor]

Wut

[magic river]

There is no way 1.18 runs at 40 fps on a Core Duo

[rancid void]

Fabric mod pack maybe? idk

[pastel reef]

Sodium

[golden gust]

https://tenor.com/Vc17.gif

[magic river]

Well, yeah

[void void]

^ I got 1.18 to a "stable" 60fps on an absolute shitbox with sodium

[pastel reef]

Lithium kind of ruins to for some reason

[rancid void]

Idk, You can get a couple of hundred FPS on an old (Gen 3) i5 with a few fabric mods

[magic river]

Noah a Core Duo is old enough to drink

[warm anchor]

Noah core duo is older than you

[rancid void]

I'd love to test it but I lost a lot of old stuff with the last (forced) move ._.

[pastel reef]

My friend has a Celeron but it unfortunately can't run Fabric in the first place.

[rancid void]

wat

[magic river]

Ok so they meant Core 2 Duo but that's still a 13 year old mobile CPU

[viscid wedge]

Sodium, Lithium, Starlight

Bada Bing Bada boom

[warm anchor]

You need to install the whole periodic table

[magic river]

That shit couldn't run Minecraft beta 1.7

[pastel reef]

Intel Core Duo doesn't like Lithium

[viscid wedge]

Get a better shitbox then

[golden gust]

last time I heard a few bada booms i thought it was the opening for easterenders

[spare venture]

how the fuck do you even have a cpu that old

[viscid wedge]

You can do better than that for like $45

[magic river]

Anyway, whatever, your computer is magic and you fixed your problem

[spare venture]

fr soup

[golden gust]

turned out it was just %random_person%s mom falling down the stairs

[warm anchor]

I have it too. But it’s in basement somewhere

[rancid void]

I lowkey want to grab the 2008 HP laptop collecting dust in the corner of my room and test 1.16/17/18

[spare venture]

why

[rancid void]

IIRC, 1.16.5 is pretty playable - but only as long as the chunk generator doesn't do anything xD

[plucky sparrow]

no

[magic river]

I think I still have a Sandy Bridge laptop around somewhere but the one before that broke down

[rancid void]

My mom used it until recently.

[magic river]

So I couldn't test that far back in time

[spare venture]

keeping literal fossils and for what

[pastel reef]

Tipp: Install Linux on it, that's what I did for my 13 year old Mac. Windows and MacOS are too hardware dependant.

[magic river]

I have a 2011 laptop, 2015 laptop, and 2017 laptop just sitting around

[rancid void]

Entire 56 points in Cinebench R15. 56 points of 2008 2x1.3GHz Pentium Ulp goodness

[warm anchor]

Yeah I don’t throw away electronic. Just don’t seem right to me @spare venture

[magic river]

I meant to do something with the 2017 one but forgot and now they're all too old to feel good about even giving them to family or something

[warm anchor]

If it ain’t broken I keep it somewhere

[spare venture]

what use do you have for it

would be better recycled, no?

[rancid void]

(For reference: an i5-3330 does about 420 (nice), a Ryzen 3 3100 around 1000)

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA

[warm anchor]

Idk it’s just me being weird probably lol

[golden gust]

somebody reminded me of that

so, yea, enjoy

[magic river]

I don't think we even have anywhere to recycle that kind of stuff

Not that they actually recycle it

They just take the battery out, run the rest through an industrial shredder, and put it in the normal dump

[rancid void]

just for the sake of playing around with bottom of the barrel hardware

[spare venture]

playing around with it

hey whatever gives you enjoyment

[magic river]

You know, if Will Smith hadn't become the Fresh Prince he would have been another star we talked about who let their fame get the best of them and ended up broke because they bought too many toys and drugs

[spare venture]

what was will smith before fresh prince?

[magic river]

Uh, a hip hop star

[spare venture]

oh man

[magic river]

Well, technically he was the Fresh Prince then too (that was his stage name)

[rancid void]

perfection

[spare venture]

wow he made the right move

[magic river]

Smith spent money freely around 1988 and 1989 and underpaid his income taxes.[23] The Internal Revenue Service eventually assessed a $2.8 million tax debt against Smith, took many of his possessions, and garnished his income.[29] Smith was struggling financially in 1990 when the NBC television network signed him to a contract and built a sitcom, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, around him.

[spare venture]

and now

As of 2016, his films have grossed $7.5 billion at the global box office

[rancid void]

Adguard Home really runs on a potato. That potato of a laptop and the load is still non-existant

[viscid wedge]

Just put KolibriOS on it, that shits minimum requirements are AC power and an x86 CPU

[magic river]

Notice cat's link is by DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince

That's the name of their group or whatever, from the 80s

[spare venture]

is he a scientologist? he used to donate to them

[rancid void]

atm, there's Debian 11-LXDE on it

Doesn't even get an SSD, as it's basically a headless server
(not physically ofc, but it's used this way)

[magic river]

Debian removes the x86 CPU requirement 😛

That's cool, the girl who played Ashley Banks on that show ended up going to Harvard

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPNqub966Tw

[golden gust]

not the nightcore remix

[magic river]

What is the original version of this?

I swear there is a pop song that sounds like this

Maybe I'm just remembering the nightcore remix though 😄

[void void]

https://essentialsx.net/do-not-use-mohist.html

[magic river]

Oh hey that stuff is public now

If EssentialsX broke due to the Player object changing that's an EssentialsX bug

We told you guys not to do that shit 9 years ago

I think the javadoc even does (or did) mention you shouldn't rely on that

[charred sleet]

but uuids cringe

[magic river]

I had a branch somewhere for CraftBukkit that made it work the same way as vanilla does (which is what mods are expecting too)

Going to another world or respawning makes a new Player

I think we ended up doing half of that and letting it make a new EntityPlayer but not a new CraftPlayer

Should have just gone all the way, we told everyone Player wasn't stable

[spare venture]

ive never even heard of anyone using mohist

[charred sleet]

id never heard of it

[waxen panther]

weeoo

[magic river]

This isn't actually the thing I was thinking of

[cosmic raft]

I mean

I wonder if anyone else here knows what is "special" about that song I linked :p

or, the artist rather, I should say

[void void]

bruh

[cunning raft]

[magic river]

Nope, no idea

[cosmic raft]

will dm

[void void]

No clue, but you're making we very curious

[cosmic raft]

;)

[warm anchor]

“We” Noah is multiple person confirmed

[void void]

me*

[magic river]

The nightcore version of that song has significantly more views

Like, almost 3x

[void void]

Don't just wink, I need answers!

[vernal moth]

I am handing out beer for everyone talking in spigot general right now

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[void void]

send cute Paper-chan sticker

quick

[vernal moth]

I also got popcorn

[cosmic raft]

? mini

[magic river]

🍺 🍿

[cosmic raft]

not all of us are in that place

[vernal moth]

Quick, join while the fun lasts

Oh it's just a clusterfuck am sure you wouldn't have much fun

Andrew is there, people talking about covid and the vaccine and about jumping from bridges

You know, fun times

[void void]

sounds like spigotmc, alright

[spare venture]

andrew being really fucking stupid about covid? am i surprised?

[void void]

oh wow that does look fun

can you pass me the popcorn mini?

[plucky sparrow]

whats going on in that discord

[spare venture]

that was quick

[plucky sparrow]

who is andrew

im not into minecraft server software drama

[spare venture]

a bitch

[plucky sparrow]

which of them all in that horrid channel

[spare venture]

spigot mods give you a huge appreciation for mods in any other discord

[pastel reef]

Why does hCaptcha crash my machine?

[magic river]

hCaptcha doesn't run on potatoes

[vernal moth]

Andrewkm, the father of spigot

[frank otter]

speaking of spigot is paper going to be dependent upon it forever

[magic river]

Wait they're going on a "covid is no big deal" rant or something?

[pastel reef]

Wow, it tanks a modern block game but it can't handle a verification program.

[void void]

It turned from covid to some stupid discussion about universal healthcare

[plucky sparrow]

i wish i didnt join that server

[magic river]

This is sounding like full blown MAGA syndrome

[cunning raft]

let's keep the policits for spigot general

[magic river]

And they time out anyone who argues with them?

[void void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teC_uksSPBU I'm gonna need this but for the conversation in spigot general

[spare venture]

yeah, i called one of them a bitch for not wanting to wear a mask and got put in timeout 🥲

[vernal moth]

No

Barty was dum

[spare venture]

well yeah

not a huge loss if i get banned from spigots discord, nothing of value there

probably a win for them too

[magic river]

Don't argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience 😛

[spare venture]

oh i wasnt arguing

[vernal moth]

Barty trolling is an art

You can't be so brutal

[magic river]

I can't remember the one about pigs

Something about you both get dirty but they enjoy it

[spare venture]

my days of actually trolling are long gone

[magic river]

Could have fooled me

[jolly schooner]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[spare venture]

i am so glad they added an installer

ah needed to be ran as administrator

[prime pawn]

Any of you seen the new matrix?

[magic river]

meh

Way too meta, felt like it was just a cashgrab (and even said it was in the actual movie)

Which gets back to the way too meta part

[true canyon]

There were some very interesting ideas that needed execution.

[stray dust]

@quasi valley you're a fkn legend

[spare venture]

you dont make a random new installment of a series nearly 20 years later without it beinga cash grab

[jolly schooner]

what is fabric?

[spare venture]

newish alternative to forge

mod api

[jolly schooner]

okay, but on the real, spiderman was GOAT 2021

[spare venture]

NWH was really good

[prime pawn]

A mod api for superior beings

[jolly schooner]

you're a potato

[sand shuttle]

Not every spigot staff is bad. Though admittedly some could handle things better than others.

[spare venture]

yeah i guess choco is kinda cool

[void void]

I feel like you might be a bit biased here 😅

[sand shuttle]

Choco is cool

10/10 choco

[vernal moth]

I just don't understand why people get away to wreak havock like that optics

[sand shuttle]

no idea, I'd time them out but afaik there's no rule against it 😐

[spare venture]

that's a great attitude

[vernal moth]

And ye Choco is cool but I think he also doesn't really care anymore

Also, rules are more like guidelines

[sand shuttle]

Side note, comments seem fucked when it comes to the SpigotConfig/PaperConfig type classes, which is weird

[vernal moth]

That is true for both parties

[spare venture]

im not gonna say anything else because jroy will get mad

but its almost like thats how mods should act

[granite flax]

"9. In dispute of unlisted rules, moderators say is final." you guys essentially have free reign to do as you please

[sand shuttle]

Yes, but I'm also trying to not be demoted lol

[granite flax]

Conclure is also pretty cool, considering he's the only person I've ever seen take actual action

[spare venture]

not worried about being demoted for not doing anything?

[sand shuttle]

Outside of drama, which admittedly falls on the helpers to deal with. I do quite a bit on the site

[vernal moth]

That's the fundamental different between spigots team and papers team: people on our team take responsibility and when people feel its the right thing, they act, everybody has the same goal: to create and maintain the best community possible , spigot on the other hand has a huge hierarchy problem and people are scared they gonna do something wrong

Am not blaming that on you btw, it's structural

[spare venture]

i didnt realize that i was going to practice a lot of self control today

[sand shuttle]

I mean, that's quite literally what they're there for.
I've been focusing on the site, barely touching the server.
Only other thing I've been doing is working on a paper fork

[vernal moth]

That's the other thing, half the spigot team uses paper in some form, so I can understand the lack of enthusiasm for the project

[granite flax]

The helpers are not given much direction and the appeals system is too obtuse to the point where I believe too scared to ban users

[sand shuttle]

I'm only forking paper for my server since it's the majority

I'm not dumb lol

I provide no real support for my resources when it comes to spigot forks.
If a fork breaks it, tough luck. Switch to spigot or disable the feature if at all possible

[spare venture]

hard to be enthusiastic about a dying project/community, where no real effort is being made to reverse that

[warm anchor]

Wait it’s ok to fork paper as spigot moderator?

[sand shuttle]

I'm literally only forking it because it's the majority and forking spigot directly would mean less adoption of my project lol

[sand shuttle]

outside of that, see this message

[warm anchor]

I see

Paper has indeed grow so big

[sand shuttle]

Only time I'd switch fully to paper is if spigot completely dies, but again I'm also working on my own fork so it's redundant either way for me

[vernal moth]

If paper publishes a build before spigot, nobody would install spigot on that MC version

[spare venture]

well that and hangar

[vernal moth]

Yeah

[spare venture]

spigot is still very popular for distributing resources

[vernal moth]

Those are the two secrets we have for making spigots existence redundant

[sand shuttle]

It most likely will for quite a while, it's supporting paid resources

[vernal moth]

Then again, DBO still exists

[spare venture]

dbo exists, yeah

that’s about it

[vernal moth]

People use it

[sand shuttle]

Doesn't mean DBO is active lol

[granite flax]

There's actual marketplaces for this

[sand shuttle]

I've found malware on it so i don't even think they have a queue lol

[golden gust]

dbo has gone down hill over the years

[sand shuttle]

I'd jump off a bridge before I touch MCM or polymart

[golden gust]

spigot is ass around automation

surprised inventive is still allowed around there

[vernal moth]

She doesn't do much stuff anymore

[sand shuttle]

Spiget is the only reason I'm capable of doing what I do lol

I don't think spigot has a good enough API 😐

[golden gust]

You do know that md has literally made threats to inventive over the years about the existence of that site?

[vernal moth]

Simples API for spigot isn't good enough yet?

[limber knot]

Does my api not work for what you need

[golden gust]

downloads wen?

oh, nvm

[limber knot]

When md let's me

[vernal moth]

MD is boycotting that

[sand shuttle]

If it can handle https://github.com/OpticFusion1/AntiMalwareToolKit/blob/master/AntiMalwareToolKit/src/main/java/optic_fusion1/antimalwaretoolkit/tool/impl/SpigotPluginDownloader.java properly, then yes

[granite flax]

What does that do

[limber knot]

Yeah it can't download resources cause MD won't let me but I want to

[golden gust]

Yea, that's pretty much never gonna happen

[charred sleet]

spigot has moved to paper 😳

[vernal moth]

Man, it would be so funny, if the API supports downloads, I could actually mirror spigot in hangar

[sand shuttle]

Yea, stuck with spiget then lol

[golden gust]

maybe post hangar release

[vernal moth]

That would be so funny

[sand shuttle]

I got a bukkit downloader too, but it's slow as fuck https://github.com/OpticFusion1/AntiMalwareToolKit/blob/master/AntiMalwareToolKit/src/main/java/optic_fusion1/antimalwaretoolkit/tool/impl/BukkitPluginDownloader.java

Modrinth as well actually

[vernal moth]

Fuck I am actually considering this

Parasite SEO is still SEO right?

Automatically mirror spigot, have an option to claim the resource 😂

[sand shuttle]

All my downloaders would be better if they actually handled downloading more than one thing at a time lol

[potent fossil]

Anyway my nvme stuff arrived and it is in, just working on partitioning and rsyncing crap \o/

[golden gust]

awe, you didn't kill it

shame

[sand shuttle]

It took 7-8 hours just to copy every description

[potent fossil]

Love u too

[golden gust]

did tell u that sticky tape wouldn't kill it though

u jus suck at engineerding

[potent fossil]

I literally used electrical tape and it was melting within 2 minutes

[golden gust]

Yea, I said, use sellotape

I literally said electrical tape would goofiy

[sand shuttle]

I've actually thought about scraping every github repo 👀

[rancid void]

Is that unnecessary on a server? Maybe
Did I feel like doing it? Maybe

[golden gust]

all that shits good for is marking cables and wrapping up injuries

[rancid void]

And yes, my VPS is running Arch btw™️

[vernal moth]

People already do that

It's absolute cancer and I wish google would do something about it

[sand shuttle]

I meant off spiget

I'd do it, but I know it would be slow as hell given how shit my downloaders are 😂

[rancid void]

Originally, as a joke. "until I run into issues"
been 2 years and I haven't

[vernal moth]

Sites like gitmemory and shit

[golden gust]

papers jenkins, etc, ran off arch

[vernal moth]

Fuck them

[golden gust]

and then it ran off a machine with no CPU fan for a few months

[sand shuttle]

Why exactly?

[rancid void]

You lose control over your shit because they just scrape it

[vernal moth]

They copy content from GitHub, often outdated, fill it with ads and rank high in google

[rancid void]

^

[sand shuttle]

You barely have any control anyways lol
It's all public unless it's a private repo

[vernal moth]

They steal traffic from legitimate sites and make my life harder

[sand shuttle]

I mean, if I wanted too I could fork every paper repo and do jack shit with it.

Hell, people do that with some of my repos, so so so many outdated forks

[vernal moth]

That's not my point

Its parasite SEO

[sand shuttle]

That was a response to Tyrion lol

[vernal moth]

It's wasting everybodies time

[sand shuttle]

.

[golden gust]

gitmemory

10/10

wish they'd diaf

[frank otter]

die in a what

[rancid void]

this at home plz.

[vernal moth]

I think git memory originally was created to get around the great firewall

Which makes sense I guess

[golden gust]

fire

.g urban diaf

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=D.I.A.F.

[frank otter]

oh fire makes sense

I've only ever heard die in a hole

[spare venture]

wat

[worn ember]

[coarse lily]

@twin lagoon it’s funny how every so often the monkey type thing pops up again and everyone does it

https://monkeytype.com/

What was your max?

[golden gust]

I was upstairs, and I was listening to my will smith cd

[twin lagoon]

180 on time 30

[coarse lily]

Pretty good.

[twin lagoon]

my consistency is getting worse every day

that might also just be because of the fucked lube job and stuck pieces of plastic between my keys now

if only USPS would actually fucking do something

[worn ember]

add more

[golden gust]

idk what my wpm is

[worn ember]

5

[golden gust]

my brain is broken and so like, those test things like stall my brain

[worn ember]

find out

i get like 80 if i have a good day lol

[golden gust]

I couldn't find anything good to monitor it

I have language issues so parsin words through my brain from the screen and back into text is just slooow

bonus points is that I have a speech issue too

I can't say pizza :L

comes out like pissa

[spare venture]

caring me out? rude

calling

[coarse lily]

I didn't even see you talk about it in here. Another Discord was.

[spare venture]

oh

#paper-help message

[coarse lily]

Oh it was in paper-help.

That makes sense.

(That does not make sense)

[half hawk]

how do i specify the time?

ah its some little thing in the corner

[golden gust]

macOS?

[potent fossil]

Rsync'd my arch root to nvme and there is a 3gb file discrepancy, what is not being copied and why

[void void]

It arrived?

[potent fossil]

oh cool a whoile bunch of stuff

yes it arrived

and what are you talking about autoken

[golden gust]

I mean, you can re-run rsync

make sure that you have all the preserve flag things, etc

[potent fossil]

to a new drive...

yea am following the arch manual, using flags it says to use

[golden gust]

Honestly, I used to just save myself the headaches and dd shit over

what type of stuff is missing?

[potent fossil]

they said dont use dd

[golden gust]

you sure that it wasn't intentionally dropped?

heh

[potent fossil]

looks like uh, just about everything in /bin and a bunch of shit in etc and lib

[golden gust]

dd works fine, just, you don't wanna have the new/old disk in together

gg

yea, just re-run and see if it screams

[potent fossil]

annoying

[golden gust]

will breeze past already copied shit

[potent fossil]

yea i know

i still need to copy my windows parts over too, rsyncing /home was a breeze

but something is funky with /

it didnt scream lmao

it's literally just like "ok"

but df shows a 3gb discrepancy and diff -r does scream about a bunch of shit not matching up

rsync why

oh its a bunch of links 🤔

[twin lagoon]

so you're saying it works

[potent fossil]

(that diff is screaming about)

[twin lagoon]

also what are you rsyncing things over for

[potent fossil]

yes the nvme works fine

im copying my system to the nvme

[twin lagoon]

use clonezilla

thank me later

[potent fossil]

.g clonezilla

[limber knot]

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[golden gust]

yea, clonezilla is kinda fire

gg

[potent fossil]

k

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[potent fossil]

mmmmmm

i mean im already this far

oh diff is screaming because im not chrooted im pretty sure and the links are broken as a result

hmm

--no-dereference to the rescue

ye i think we good, idk what that 3gb is though lmao

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor this emote should be flipped

[warm anchor]

okie. I will upload flipped version in a bit

[void void]

im eating green beans and really in the zone with this video im watching, and i just stuck a green bean up my nose on accident

i feel violated

[jolly schooner]

mc-bros... what do people use to do mass sweeping edits in minecraft these days?

I know there was some weird voxel editor for MC, but i dont even remember it

[void void]

what do you mean by "mass sweeping edit"

like changing a lot of blocks at once?

I would think WorldEdit and maybe BlockEditAPI for that

[jolly schooner]

yeah, i know there's worldedit /in-game/ but im thinking of mass pasting large structures (150-200r)

Manipulating a map outside of minecraft so you dont have to wait for anything to catch up. Maybe FAstsync Worldedit will do the job

I have 10 years worth of builds that I want to pick and choose onto an island

[void void]

FAWE is a nightmare but you're welcome to try

I'd recommend WorldEdit even though it may take some time

FAWE's performance boosts arent worth the headache

[golden gust]

external is basically mcedit

[jolly schooner]

Ah! McEdit thats it

[void void]

oh i didnt read "outside of minecraft"

[jolly schooner]

is that even around?

[void void]

lol

[golden gust]

https://www.amuletmc.com

mcedit -> mcedit-unified > ^

mcedit hasn't updated since 2015