Yeah they’re fucking huge
#general
fading nexus
viscid wedge
Flatpaks are a very similar idea, with much better execution
fading nexus
Flatpaks?
viscid wedge
fading nexus
Very interesting
I’ll give ‘em a shot when I can, atm nothing I’m working on needs what it provides
viscid wedge
Flatpaks won't mangle your system the same way snapd does (or did in the past), they're safe to try if you're interested. Can be purged from the system pretty trivially if you decide you don't have any use.
fading nexus
Oh that’s great
I think I messed with snap once and after my shit got rocked i never touched it again
Years ago
viscid wedge
You can simply flatpak uninstall --all and then apt purge flatpak and it'll be like nothing ever happened
potent fossil
canonical literally does not care
viscid wedge
The reason Ubuntu uses snaps and literally nobody else ships them by default is because it's a Canonical developed format
neat oyster
potent fossil
The only time I ever see you talk, orange, is to send random emojis. Sometimes in multiple messages
neat oyster
yes
potent fossil
Can you stop, it's annoying
neat oyster
i talk in paper help and experimental
viscid wedge
I listen to a song called Naomi, and this Discord has irrevocably caused me to associate the title with a certain user
potent fossil
gg
plucky sparrow
rust is hard
I stopped learning rust when I discovered there were differences between str and String
But really one was just for string literals
void void
its so simple what do u mean 😭
plucky sparrow
And the other was an object or smth like that
void void
so simple even simple knows how simple it really is
plucky sparrow
I just cannot remember which one was it
void void
THERES NO OBJECTS YOU OOP HERETIC
plucky sparrow
Well types
Or whatever they’re called ok
Don’t blame me my brain already started doing garbage collection
void void
smartest go developer
magic river
str vs String is like std::string_view vs std::string
plucky sparrow
smartest go developer
thankfully I don’t use go
void void
str is a string literal of predefined length and size allocated on the stack
magic river
Or ReadOnlySpan<char> vs String in C#
void void
String is a mutable, growable string allocated in the heap
plucky sparrow
Yea just as I told you
magic river
str is a string literal of predefined length and size allocated on the stack
No, that type is &'static str
magic river
You can pass around a String as a &str
plucky sparrow
One is literal and so is stored in the stack and the other is some other shit
plucky sparrow
You can pass around a `String` as a `&str`
See this is where my confusion began
magic river
It's just a string you can't resize or free
magic river
It's the same thing as std::string_view in C++ or ReadOnlySpan<char> in C# or whatever I'm sure Swift has for this and so on
There is probably a JEP to add one to Java
plucky sparrow
Weren’t slices in rust something like [..6] to get the first 6 bytes of a string
Really don’t remember
void void
yes
plucky sparrow
It’s been two months since I stopped reading the book
void void
but its a reference
magic river
That's more or less how Python works too
And a few other languages
(the ranges stuff)
void void
but in rust you manage the memory directly
range syntax is the same for substrings tho iirc
magic river
You manage the ownership, Rust manages the memory 🙂
plucky sparrow
Oh yea I think I’ve seen this kind of shit in dart although I might be confusing it with something else
plucky sparrow
You just screwed up the main characteristic of rust
You don’t manage the memory directly
void void
you're still more or less managing memory at a direct level even though rust's compiler is doing the dirty work for you
magic river
Err, or maybe CharBuffer, one of those
void void
ownership <3
plucky sparrow
How could you love that
magic river
CharBuffer and String both implement CharSequence
void void
i just enjoy working with it, it trades development time and complexity for performance
its a good middle ground between unsafe direct management (c/cpp) and gc
magic river
And a lot of APIs were updated to take a CharSequence instead of a String so you can give them a CharBuffer instead
TIL the James Webb has a shield made of kapton tape
Well, not even tape, the adhesive would make it too thick 😛
void void
as in James Webb the man owns a battle shield made entirely of layered kapton tape
void void
that makes far more sense but is equally more disappointing
viscid wedge
what's kapton tape
magic river
That orange tape you see on/around batteries inside electronics
viscid wedge
Oh
magic river
Slightly transparent, super thin
spare venture
i want the james webb telescope to reveal some really cool stuff
magic river
5 sheets less than a millimetre thick and they have to unpack it mechanically, in space
And if they fail the entire $10 billion thing they've been working on for 14 years is just some space junk taking up space in L2
void void
no kaboom 😔
viscid wedge
i want the james webb telescope to reveal some really cool stuff
Yeah, would be cool. I wanna get a telescope for home use at some point, but fuckers are pricey.
magic river
Getting in to orbit or even to L2 isn't the riskiest part of this thing
No kaboom just means you have to wait longer to see if you're going to be disappointed or not
spare venture
well that $10 billion will have been spent on earth so its not really a waste 🙂
plus all the stuff we have learned from making it
would be a terrible loss from humanity for sure tho
magic river
Launches on Christmas Eve, btw
is back
magic river
iirc it was supposed to be the 22nd but they pushed it back a couple days
spare venture
no
magic river
I'll have to get up before sunrise to try to catch it live
stiff widget
In mc?
coarse lily
In mc?
Hi - don't post exploit videos please.
But read the pins in #paper-help - the exploit has been patched.
stiff widget
Ok I understand
void void
oop
magic river
I wonder if the code that splats out an ore vein would be fast enough to use for an anti-xray scheme that compresses better (you'd probably have to rewrite it but still)
Instead of going completely random you fill the chunk with ore veins
potent fossil
is it possible to move a partition to an earlier sector, im doing very cursed things right now. just finished resizing my windows drive with ntfsresize but now i have windows, then unallocated space, then a windows recovery drive at the end and i want to move the recovery drive to before the unallocated space for no real reason other than it will look prettier
it got disabled somehow 
potent fossil
nvm ima daredevil this, going in without any regard for safety
pastel reef
Can mobs spawn on packed ice?
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vernal moth
elon musk: I put my car into space with a perfectly crafted rocket
joe bernard: haha, lemme yeet my xmas tree into space
absolutely fantastic vid
lol the comments are priceless
"Rules of Rocket Science
1: Given enough thrust, anything will fly.
2: If you want it to fly straight, the back end has to want to go slower than the front.
3: Down is easy. "Where" and "How Fast" requires some aforethought.
4: Everything else is minutia."
deep arch
why did paper mc fix chunkbans
proud lance
paper fixes bugs?
warm anchor
Paper fix bugs
deep arch
all prisons are not working anymore
proud lance
much sad
warm anchor
Wow I cannot abuse a game bug that stops an user from ever playing again
vernal moth
if you want a prison, get a prison plugin
warm anchor
How crazy
deep arch
we prison builders want to make vanilla prison
warm anchor
Then use vanilla
warm anchor
You want to make vanilla prison not paper prison
deep arch
but u can still be chunkbanned if u pickup chunkban
deep arch
how is called
warm anchor
Look it up 😉
vernal moth
thats exactly what we did
warm anchor
Lol
warm anchor
No more chunkban 
vernal moth
I literally gave you the name + the link to the docs...
proud lance
but where Martin
proud lance
ceo of furry bedtimes
warm anchor
deep arch
tnx
void void
thats exactly what we did
not sure if kenny's fix has a toggle tho
proud lance
is it leaf's patch that deals with the chunk loading?
void void
not sure if kenny's fix has a toggle tho
mild rune
tidal valve
Hi guys who can help took the trial period of the VDS server from microsoft started trying ports through the firewall but something doesn't work out who could help who understands?
summer rivet
can very loud music and vibration at 100db or even higher cause damage to my computer? I mean if played for 8 hours a day
ashen cliff
If you don't mind going deaf, sure.
void void
can very loud music and vibration at 100db or even higher cause damage to my com...
why are you more concerned about your computer than your ears
arctic cape
someone wuld like to join my new smp ? dm me if yes 1.18 java
urban reef
man I cant decide if I want to use towny or lands or residence or kingdomsx
summer rivet
why are you more concerned about your computer than your ears
idk how to protect them xD. But i for sure need all my files
ashen cliff
Go deaf apparently.
summer rivet
Its comming from my neighbar, he dont hear that good and also need it very very loud. I cant even ask him something bc i cant stay before his door without headache
I just want to know if my comouter will get hurt bc the house is vibrating everything
worn ember
can very loud music and vibration at 100db or even higher cause damage to my com...
depends on the amount of vibration but since its 100db i'd assume baseline which have a relative low frequency, so you should be fine
if you have a HDD it will probably struggle most but shouldn't affect it
void void
caramelldansen 100db
graceful trail
low key want to host a minecraft server again for me and my friends because setting eveeything up and configuring everything takes time but is fun amd satisfying
worn crest
this substance is suspicious, whats that
void void
wax
void void
candle
worn crest
why is a candle in a drinking glass i mean that doesnt look like a candle glass
void void
how can i get discord webhook notifications for new paper/velocity releases
rose umbra
Gonna get a gaming laptop
twin lagoon
ok
rose umbra
Nice
plucky sparrow
cool
twin lagoon
rose umbra
huh
plucky sparrow
exposed hard
twin lagoon
ok
rose umbra
ok
plucky sparrow
ok
Gonna get a gaming laptop
vernal moth
this substance is suspicious, whats that
I mean it's literally written on the glass
Raki with ice
worn crest
I mean it's literally written on the glass
that isnt german 😦
void void
I mean it's literally written on the glass
wax
vernal moth
that isnt german 😦
It's long part of German culture
charred sleet
potent fossil
alright fucks sake im on linux now, that took forever because i wanted to reinstall windows cleanly beforehand. little did i know, window's now thinks its very cute to make an efi partition that is
~~100MB~~
so when I enabled some stuff for drivers in the initramfs and stuff,,,,
it RAN OUT OF SPACE
and then i couldn't boot anymore
so i had to go and move partitions left and right to make some room to expand the efi partition
but little did i know gparted refuses to do that and so does windows
so i had to mount the efi partition in the arch liveboot and rsync everything inside to somewhere else, delete the efi partition, manually recreate it, and rsync everything back in, then change the efi partition UUID in the fstab
fun fact, for whatever godforsaken reason microsoft includes 16MB of fonts and a shitload of language packs in the bootloader
anyway im tired now 
vernal moth
Simple be getting that Linux experience
potent fossil
plucky sparrow
I feel the pain
potent fossil
the pain was really because of needing to keep windows for games
plucky sparrow
I once got so mad because of it I ended up making a 1gb efi partition
wispy blade
gotta bootstrap the bootstrapper
twin lagoon
generally doesn't need to be more than 200mb
i usually do 512mb
1gb is definitely a bit excessive but it doesn't hurt
potent fossil
I made it 512mb because i got mad that microsoft made it 100mb and i refuse to resize it again for any reason
should give me room to have a few kernels if i ever get lazy
which i will
red timber
alright fucks sake im on linux now, that took forever because i wanted to reinst...
you don't have to use the same efi partition, could simply create a new one
my system ran with two separate efi partitions for a good while
potent fossil
yeah but didnt really have the space, wouldn't have worked out nicely in my current case
red timber
could've cut off 512mb or so from the end of your linux partition
worn ember
never had issues with the EFI partition running out of space 
red timber
unlucky
worn ember
its been on 100MB since the dawn of time
potent fossil
and do you dual boot?
wispy blade
installing more than a single kernel
potent fossil
because thats when the issue occurs
potent fossil
dualbooting is actually fine, but the problem really happens when you add modules to the initramfs
which increases those sizes
red timber
also you don't have to store kernel & initramfs on efi
worn ember
idk what that means so i probably never touched those
potent fossil
Well, whatever. Thought they had to be in there but it is what it is now.
red timber
also you don't have to store kernel & initramfs on efi
grub can even do dm-raid, but afaik shits itself with lvm, btrfs/zfs with newish features
so you're mostly fine
ashen cliff
LVM.
wispy blade
logical volume management
ashen cliff
Painfu[l] Volume Management.
wispy blade
so, illogical volume management?
ashen cliff
Fact.
foggy silo
Hello ! Naomi !
ashen cliff
Epic.
void void
"if i was a fox, i would be a fox"
is your cousin a furry by any chance?
worn ember
ok furry
wispy blade
no
void void
that's what a furry would say
wispy blade
you have no proof i am a furry
i just know that song through osu and looked into the artist
that is all.
worn ember
cuz you like furry songs
wispy blade
i just know the song, never said i liked it
wispy blade
yes
so i can avoid them
never know if they publish under a different name
eg Fire-Toolz = MindSpring Memories
and Rob Swire is in Knife Party and Pendulum
smh
love rob tho
plucky sparrow
a
wispy blade
hello dap
plucky sparrow
hello naom
worn ember
i hate how spotify doesn't diversify daily mixes, like i don't want to only listen to 1 genre for the next 2 hours
wispy blade
just dont use spotify and let your music player generate your daily mix
worn ember
how about you just dont talk
twin lagoon
@waxen panther thoughts
tropic flame
Naomi actually spoke based facts though
waxen panther
<@!264203519806930944> thoughts
pov; #general is someone’s entire subconscious
plucky sparrow
how about you just dont talk
foggy silo
😩
wispy blade
pov; <#555469074080202765> is someone’s entire subconscious
pov: an advanced forum user isnt using the forum
worn ember
he forgor
wispy blade
i am quite sure i have more forum posts than brocc
worn ember
imagine using a forum in 2021
left swift
wispy blade
imagine using a forum in 2021
gotta assert dominance somehow
golden gust
WHO DAH MAN
neat oyster
ay
i have a doubt how to get a badge like paper plane next to me on my disc server
it has 2 boosts
foggy silo
🤔
vernal moth
They are role icons
neat oyster
oh i see
plucky sparrow
You need more boosts
neat oyster
so they are second lvl boost
plucky sparrow
It’s only on tier 2
waxen panther
i am quite sure i have more forum posts than brocc
please cease using my name
wispy blade
no.
official cease and desist letter or bust
good luck finding my address and real name.\
worn ember
good luck finding my address and real name.\
Dave McNuggies
still working on the adress tho
probably somewhere in zoutelande
golden gust
wispy blade
probably somewhere in zoutelande
living in zeeland
worn ember
how tf does hypickle have 78k players with the same minigames since 2012
twin lagoon
skyblock, bedwars & skywars
void void
I have no idea
plucky sparrow
i always found all of those super boring
Have you tried tnt tag
wispy blade
skyblock.
worn ember
Have you tried tnt tag
sounds boring
wispy blade
i love skyblock
plucky sparrow
sounds boring
Try it out
wispy blade
ded, you are boring
worn ember
not my problem is it now
worn ember
Try it out
i will
untold meadow
@little frost 
plucky sparrow
i will
I’m willing to play with you
You need a mentor unless you want to get killed
foggy silo
Hi Kezz!!
plucky sparrow
That is only if I don’t die first 
wispy blade
@untold meadow hello bestest kezz how are you today
wispy blade
i will be ordering a nintendo switch later tonight
void void
Plugins are loaded into memory right? Does that mean you can freely remove or add jars without issues, why do you always see a "stop your server" instruction on plugin wikis?
plucky sparrow
how is the switch still being sold
wide chasm
Plugins are not fully loaded in memory, classes are only loaded when needed.
plucky sparrow
It’s like 5 years old already
void void
Plugins are not fully loaded in memory, classes are only loaded when needed.
ah I see
so if you remove a plugin file
wispy blade
the wii shop was only discontinued in like 2019 right
wide chasm
Yes
plucky sparrow
There needs to be a whole new switch version
wispy blade
gl convincing nintendo
plucky sparrow
Not just some crappy oled version with a better stand
wide chasm
They don't need an entirely new one when this one is still selling
plucky sparrow
The thing is that this one is not that fast
wispy blade
so? it still works
plucky sparrow
Perhaps it’s time to move on from 720p 30fps
wide chasm
A lot of Nintendo's games hit 1080p 60fps docked
void void
Yes
shit its self as in corrupting your world/config or will the plugin just error a bunch?
wide chasm
Just error a bunch
wispy blade
but just don't do it, in case a plugin does dumb stuff with server internals
plucky sparrow
The latest games are quite demanding though and the switch doesn’t really hold up
wispy blade
dap, have you even SEEN roblox
wide chasm
If with "latest games" you mean stuff that is coming out on PS5 and XSX, then no, the Switch doesn't really hold up
But if you buy a Switch with that expectation, you're buying the wrong console
void void
but just don't do it, in case a plugin does dumb stuff with server internals
What about adding plugins
if its not going to be needed
wide chasm
Adding plugins should be fine, but they won't be loaded if the server is already running
void void
Adding plugins should be fine, but they won't be loaded if the server is already...
yeah
wispy blade
the java virtual machine isn't made for hotswap
void void
cool
plucky sparrow
Well of course there’s plenty other games but developers (rockstar) still choose to release some of their games to this console and they really don’t run well iirc
wide chasm
I mean, as always, plugins can do whatever they want, so I can make a plugin that behaves differently if the plugins folder is modified, but you'd have to go out of your way to make it behave like that
GTA the trilogy is apparently really bad, but from what I've heard it was bad on all consoles
plucky sparrow
I personally would love to see an updated version of the switch just to get better games
void void
thanks for the info guys 🙂
plucky sparrow
Right now it’s quite limited
wide chasm
No problem
wispy blade
just wait another 2 years dap
plucky sparrow
wispy blade
pretty sure nentendookie will come up with something new
plucky sparrow
The only thing that has impressed me in the 5 years of switch is animal crossing
wide chasm
I mean, you don't need a high-end console for good games
golden gust
Well, apparently with GTA it's just full of bugs
plucky sparrow
Seemingly they’ve fixed most of them already
golden gust
Like, in respect, some of the OG bugs are still there but it's a low quality port more or less
worn ember
imagine buying Nintendo products 
plucky sparrow
The gta trilogy seems ok now
golden gust
they're probs workin on it but it's like, kinda shitty to release a game with so many issues, but, such is the norm these days...
plucky sparrow
Can’t really blame rockstar though
wide chasm
I mean, if you care about your games having proper contact shadows and fancy global illumination and shit, up to you, but in my opinion those things don't make a game good.
plucky sparrow
It wasn’t them who did the remasters
golden gust
They published it though?
plucky sparrow
Ehh they probably just looked at it over the top
waxen panther
wide chasm
Then it's their fault they gave the green light to a broken product
waxen panther
(my opinion)
plucky sparrow
I mean, if you care about your games having proper contact shadows and fancy glo...
I’m aware games don’t need to look great in order to be good but most “good” games coming out nowadays are quite demanding
golden gust
I mean, game requirements have gone up and up, if you want console quality you generally need mid-tier hardware which is generally on par with what the consoles have
most games coming out these days can run okay on much of this hardware, but, if you want a stutter free experience you need to have good hardware and wait a few months for all of the release issues to be fixed
wispy blade
looks at osu, which has started lagging more and more
golden gust
thing with consoles is that you know what hardware you've got to work with and so you can make choices on how to play it off, take silent hill which literally just fog'd the entire world because the hardware couldn't render all that far out
wide chasm
I’m aware games don’t need to look great in order to be good but most “good” gam...
You should check out the Switch, it has quite a number of good games and they all run on the switch 😉
plucky sparrow
Of course it has great games but hardware nowadays would allow for far better games to release on such a device
golden gust
Nintendo is great at making games run on inferior hardware though
Like, Nintendo's thing really is portable gaming, tbqh
plucky sparrow
It might be the truth for Nintendo but definitely not for other game publishers. I really don’t like the way they just released an OLED version of the Switch four years later and proceeded to sell it for 30 bucks more
They’re really just milking the Switch as much as possible now
This new version might be great but was it really needed?
void void
*looks at osu, which has started lagging more and more*
looks at 480 fps for me m8
golden gust
I mean, yea, all of them do it, really
void void
no option to raise the max cap over that without going unlimited on my monitor
golden gust
every console has had a re-release to improve something or cut out some crap
it's no surprise that they're doing it with a console which is still pulling them cash in
wispy blade
no option to raise the max cap over that without going unlimited on my monitor
my man, it will lag regardless of frame cap lol
golden gust
don't think that the switch has lasted longer than any of its other counterparts
wispy blade
which is really annoying if i'm trying to acc somehting
void void
>shows lazer
not my fault peppy didn't decide to port the old shitty version of osu to linux
void void
lazer performs even worse LOL
When I was on Windows and played standard osu it ran at like 100 fps
void void
works just fine ootb
Really? It gives me a ton of audio issues when I try playing standard osu with Wine
wispy blade
yes
void void
so many that it doesn't let me submit scores
void void
soooo
plucky sparrow
every console has had a re-release to improve something or cut out some crap
That is true but those re-releases are usually to improve certain aspects, which I really can’t say so for the Switch OLED, where it’s essentially the same hardware with some small new details. Thing is “bigger, non handheld” consoles actually last quite a while without running into performance issues and Nintendo seems to be trying to take the Switch down that path when it really just won’t work due to how bad the hardware is
void void
what you're saying is that it doesn't work out of the box
void void
idk I like it more, and osu lazer never goes below 480 fps when I have it capped to that
golden gust
underpowered devices which you question why the fuck they'd release something that weak vs the hardware out there which sells and has some pretty good games considering
void void
while stable on Windows gave me ungodly amounts of lag
golden gust
take a look at the DS and what that ran
void void
osu!lazer is very well optimized
plucky sparrow
I personally would love to play better more demanding games on a handheld, which is quite doable seeing the Steam Deck, and I’m sure Nintendo could really benefit a lot with such an improvement
plucky sparrow
Just like they did with the New 3DS or the DSi
void void
i get consistent framedrops on lazer
Windows issue
plucky sparrow
Just like they did with the New 3DS or the DSi
This way they can just keep milking both of the consoles and it’d be fair and okay
golden gust
well, yea, but completly different avenues
the steam deck is a portable PC
the DS, the switch, are portable game consoles
waxen panther
sez u
plucky sparrow
Of course I just refer to the performance the Steam Deck “will” achieve based on what Steam has said
void void
mfw osu lazer runs natively on Linux and is even distributed via appimage files
wispy blade
shut up @waxen panther
waxen panther
you first
void void
peppy is a macos dev
so if you want to compare native platform performance
you must get a mac
wispy blade
rly? thought he had a windows pc
void void
I don't know if he has a Windows pc but I do know he develops all of his stuff on mac
plucky sparrow
I can see there being a Switch 2 that will just run all regular Switch games just fine while having better hardware and more “Switch 2” specific releases that will take advantage of the hardware improvement
void void
You can see him stream development on Twitch
plucky sparrow
Or really, just a Switch “Pro”
wispy blade
but that was like 2 years ago
waxen panther
i'd easily pay 2k for a switch without those disgusting massive bezels
wispy blade
ok brocc
plucky sparrow
I mean they fixed that with the oled version
waxen panther
i own the regular and the oled and have only played like 2 games between them 
not really
void void
waxen panther
still got ugly bezels
waxen panther
its an improvement but
they're still big
especially for a screen as meh as the switches
twin lagoon
waxen panther
twin lagoon
best brocc
wispy blade
no
plucky sparrow
I personally think it’s fine now, they should’ve just made the screen 1080p
waxen panther
BEST michael
void void
osu lazer is incredibly well optimized, it has performance improvements like every update
wispy blade
again, inputs still feel delayed, even at 1k fps cap
and that's annoying for playing for acc
and i don't willingly want to sacrifice UR for game fps
void void
turn on borderless windowed mode
plucky sparrow
Osu just shit
wispy blade
2007 codebase btw
void void
osu lazer is a rewrite
wide chasm
I mean, coming from the 3DS which ran 240p, 720p is like heaven
wispy blade
rewrite but reusing code from the old project
wide chasm
3DS 3D effect masks the lower resolution a bit, but still
golden gust
The thing is that the steam deck is basically just one of those "portable PCs" you see, forot the name of them
it has an x86 CPU and a fairly decent GPU considering
I think that they're expecting that a sizable chunk of "play" however will just be streaming
wide chasm
Ah yes, fancy hardware just to end up streaming games
I'm gonna call it now, in 10 or so years we will all be running potatoes as consoles just because everything is streamed
void void
Modern games just aren't written well, like the default Minecraft server software
golden gust
Well, thats where places like google are placing big bucks in
Minecraft is an easy target but, comparing it to other games is just dumb
plucky sparrow
Not my point, I just think the Switch OLED could’ve had some better hardware capable of running better games and then have a distinct line between the regular switch so there’s 3 types of switch for all types of people, just like they did with the 3DS
golden gust
there is pretty much 0 games out there on the level of MC
void void
minetest is slower
golden gust
and, people forget all of the tech feats of MC to be able to get there
little frost
@untold meadow @untold meadow best kezz
golden gust
mojang right now just suffers a too many compsci grad hiring issues
void void
and, people forget all of the tech feats of MC to be able to get there
maybe, paper still faster though :p
golden gust
Well, yea, but that's a key area we try to focus on
wide chasm
Not my point, I just think the Switch OLED could’ve had some better hardware cap...
Maybe that will still come, but from a business viewpoint there is no reason to spend time developing an improved Switch with better hardware when people still buy the old version.
golden gust
it's not like mojang has people tearing the codebase apart profiling everything
that just doesn't earn money
void void
just wait until cpu's stop getting faster
wispy blade
they already have
twin lagoon
honestly, same
wispy blade
since like the 2010s
golden gust
just wait until programmers find out how to take advantage of intel bugs to boost perf
wide chasm
The majority of Minecraft's playerbase is very casual, they generally don't notice much of performance issues that you see when you try to scale the code up to handle dozens of players.
plucky sparrow
Maybe that will still come, but from a business viewpoint there is no reason to ...
I think this could be a smooth transition from a business viewpoint, with games coming out on both of the models for a year, and then we would start getting Switch “Pro” exclusives
waxen panther
@twin lagoon michael codin ? 
golden gust
CPUs have gotten faster but much of the speed performance improvements are more magical things or pushing the current silicone hardware or say, more specialised cores, etc
plucky sparrow
Or make the games Switch “Pro” optimized like they did on the DSi I believe
void void
~~just wait until programmers find out how to take advantage of intel bugs to bo...
mojang moment
twin lagoon
<@!215448923681062913> michael codin ? <:koriLaugh:790888954802995270>
fix worldedit thanks
wide chasm
Not too sure about the exclusives, with the New 3DS there were only a handful of exclusives for that
waxen panther
fix worldedit thanks
WE are on holiday michael, close the ide
golden gust
Well, the IP is also a big part of nintendo's pros
twin lagoon
it is ok daniel is working on it already
wide chasm
Nintendo themselves even targetted Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn as New-exclusive first, before changing it to be for all models.
waxen panther
daniel is on holiday too
void void
mojang tricks intel drivers for performance
waxen panther
golden gust
they have shit like mario and stuff which are platform specific
plucky sparrow
Nintendo really just didn’t make the New 3DS seem like it had much stuff better, and the same goes for the DSi which had quite the potential yet Nintendo didn’t take advantage of it
golden gust
that trick was a JVM bug fix iirc
warm anchor
brocco on holiday????
wide chasm
Hence, why I doubt a Switch pro would be much different
golden gust
with a switch pro'd they probs maybe throw more ram at it, make IPS standard, and toss it out
wide chasm
People'll enjoy their faster loading an improved performance and maybe improved resolution, but as for pure exclusives for that model, I doubt it
golden gust
assuming that's not a thing yet
plucky sparrow
I personally think it’d be good enough if you could at least run ALL games on 1080p@60fps when undocked
That would make it a fair enough upgrade
waxen panther
all of your interfaces are broken <@!264203519806930944>
what
twin lagoon
come back to work xx
waxen panther
january 3rd
wide chasm
Nintendo's games do run quite well, even undocked. The screen is 720p, so of course it isn't 1080p in handheld mode, but they hit 60fps quite often. I don't know what other people are doing that they have to settle for shit like 520p@30fps, but Nintendo themselves don't need much of an upgrade other than the screen.
twin lagoon
brocc hates me 
plucky sparrow
What would the upgrade really be if no games can’t take advantage of an upgraded screen
Keep in mind that battery life is pretty much crucial
wide chasm
Battery life is currently sitting at 6 hours or so I believe, which I personally think is fine
plucky sparrow
Yes, improve the screen now and have games run on the “docked” resolution
Id even risk it and say it’d overheat
wide chasm
For Nintendo's games, they might get by, for some of other people's games, yeah the Switch is dead before getting past the loading menu.
But, docked resolution doesn't say much, there are currently games that have 720p@30fps docked, which isn't that amazing either
plucky sparrow
So imo this is why Nintendo hasn’t really upgraded the hardware
So at this point the only viable solution would just be a major overhaul of the hardware
wide chasm
If you do a major overhaul, good chance that old games don't run (properly) anymore, so at that point you've basically got an entirely new console.
plucky sparrow
One of the points on having the games run on docked is that they look “better” but if they just improve the screen to 1080p, games would just likely look the same between docked and undocked
So really just improving the screen resolution is not a good idea
plucky sparrow
If you do a major overhaul, good chance that old games don't run (properly) anym...
Yeah this is the only issue I see
void void
helo
vapid gorge
Does anyone know if the BlockRedstoneEvent gets fired multiple times when redstone loses power? I have a counter and it goes ballistic when the redstone loses power, but goes up by one when it receives power
violet valve
is anti xray mode 2 lagging anybody elses server
golden gust
ashen cliff
FastAsyncWorldEdit.
mossy vessel
https://twitter.com/XylaFoxlin/status/1472628042950320131
Rumors say, you do that after christmas 
Meh, british time, what do I know
void void
Hi does anyone know of a plugin that you can do custom block summons for example if you put like 8 netherite in a square a hoglin will be spawned
Like place the items in a real world arrangement
tidal valve
Hi guys who can help took the trial period of the VDS server from microsoft started trying ports through the firewall but something doesn't work out who could help who understands?
wide chasm
Apparently GitHub Actions censors secrets everywhere, even if they're not used there
My secret is set to 1, so it censors this
Even though I don't use the secret in the name of the action
So now everyone knows my secret is 1, since you can lookup the name in the build file
Remind me to not store sensitive information in GitHub secrets, because before you know it it accidentally leaks via a build name
The logs are also completely messed up
worn ember
next CVE: Hacking minecraft servers through gh secrets
how would that work though?
lmao
arent those consoles readonly?
magic river
At least one yogscast member looks to have gotten covid due to their charity livestream this year
worn ember
Charity streams cause covid?
spare venture
also prevents you from spreading it as easily, except for the new variants... sad
magic river
iirc it's still over 50% effective for sterilizing immunity
spare venture
also do the effects of the vaccine really wear off after 6 months? that seems crazy
magic river
70% for severe symtoms, 90% for hospitalization
The numbers are somewhere around there, don't want to look it up 😛
cursive arch
❤️ to the paper devs and everyone who makes this possible 🙂
waxen panther
based
little frost
@untold meadow based and epic
untold meadow
@little frost based and epic and best
waxen panther
i'll change my avatar tonight if i remember
worn ember
foggy silo
Interesting
worn ember
god i hte that i cant update through the ui
twin lagoon
<:hmmGe:826227356477816864>
average jenkins day
cursive arch
Think there was a notification saying theres gna be downtime last week for Hetzner
wispy blade
noob
wispy blade
cremekarre
kontzweetzwemmer
golden gust
worn ember
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/huge-christmas-tractor-co...
we had some too
golden gust
yea, I was going to put the trash out, heard a lot of honking so walked down to the edge and saw a decorated tractor so figured they where going for round 2 😄
They did it last year too
worn ember
lol
golden gust
some of them where basically tryna make a song or something which kinda reminded me of baby shark lol
worn ember
lmao
ok what the fuck, i stop jenkins donwload latest jenkins war overwrite the file, start it back up but its still on the same version 
oh it didnt download it cuz ree meh certificates
this is why i stick to windows
golden gust
there was a ppa
worn ember
idk what that means
golden gust
what OS are you using?
worn ember
debian
worn ember
https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian/ just followed this
golden gust
you probs have jenkins running some other way
but, yea, those are the correct instructions
worn ember
yeah
golden gust
did that run properly? 😄
worn ember
oh yeah ok 2.325 is latest
now to figure out where the fuck its actually running from then
ashen cliff
Just reboot the machine bro!
golden gust
ps aux | grep jenkins
worn ember
Just reboot the machine bro!
Never 22:24:13 up 530 days, 22:57, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.07
running as root gang root 3585 0.0 0.0 6144 880 pts/0 S+ 22:24 0:00 grep jenkins
worn ember
jenkins 3655 0.4 0.4 21020 8324 ? Ss 22:26 0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd --user
jenkins 3656 0.0 0.1 171996 2836 ? S 22:26 0:00 (sd-pam)
jenkins 3671 0.0 0.0 5676 184 ? S 22:26 0:00 /usr/bin/daemon --name=jenkins --inherit --env=JENKINS_HOME=/var/lib/jenkins --output=/var/log/jenkins/jenkins.log --pidfile=/var/run/jenkins/jenkins.pid -- /bin/java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar /usr/share/jenkins/jenkins.war --webroot=/var/cache/jenkins/war --httpPort=8080
jenkins 3672 102 6.1 2559124 122612 ? Sl 22:26 0:05 /bin/java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar /usr/share/jenkins/jenkins.war --webroot=/var/cache/jenkins/war --httpPort=8080
root 3706 0.0 0.0 6144 884 pts/0 S+ 22:26 0:00 grep jenkins
i just run it using service jenkins start
golden gust
ITT: DED breaks shit again
worn ember
root@Jenkinsv1:/usr/share/jenkins# stat jenkins.war
File: jenkins.war
Size: 67394283 Blocks: 131632 IO Block: 4096 regular file
Device: 801h/2049d Inode: 129808 Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
Access: 2021-12-19 22:26:08.221897336 +0100
Modify: 2021-12-19 22:04:29.253932618 +0100
Change: 2021-12-19 22:19:59.175739025 +0100
yeah i dont know anymore, its pointing to this war file, which seems to be updated
¯_(ツ)_/¯
magic river
Is it actually restarting?
ashen cliff
INB4 wrong java version.
ashen cliff
Use 11 as default and tell Jenkins to build using 17.
sullen iron
So where can you grab the latest 1.18.1 build in a script? I was usiing this for 1.17, but no longer workiing
rip my nitro
foggy silo
😩
plucky sparrow
I can no longer send the noded emoji
plucky sparrow
Unfortunately yes 😔
frank otter
```curl -JLo paperclip.jar https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.18.1/latest/downloa...
I have a long hacky script somewhere from a docker image sometime that works given any version
I can go looking for it if you want
I have found it and it's beautiful apart from all the code I wrote
credits to whoever made the papermc docker image
sullen iron
So there's no simple way to automate via cron?
sullen iron
I have a long hacky script somewhere from a docker image sometime that works giv...
Nice.
golden gust
it's a few lines in a script with curl and jq
we do not support or encourage auto updates, etc
sullen iron
Oh. Ok then
frank otter
#!/bin/bash
# Enter server directory
cd papermc
if [ $AUTO_UPDATE == "true" ]
then
# Get version information and build download URL and jar name
URL=https://papermc.io/api/v2/projects/paper
if [ ${MC_VERSION} = latest ]
then
# Get the latest MC version
MC_VERSION=$(wget -qO - $URL | jq -r '.versions[-1]') # "-r" is needed because the output has quotes otherwise
fi
URL=${URL}/versions/${MC_VERSION}
if [ ${PAPER_BUILD} = latest ]
then
# Get the latest build
PAPER_BUILD=$(wget -qO - $URL | jq '.builds[-1]')
fi
JAR_NAME=paper-${MC_VERSION}-${PAPER_BUILD}.jar
URL=${URL}/builds/${PAPER_BUILD}/downloads/${JAR_NAME}
# Update if necessary
if [ ! -e ${JAR_NAME} ]
then
# Remove old server jar(s)
rm -f *.jar
# Download new server jar
wget ${URL} -O ${JAR_NAME}
# If this is the first run, accept the EULA
if [ ! -e eula.txt ]
then
# Run the server once to generate eula.txt
java -jar ${JAR_NAME}
# Edit eula.txt to accept the EULA
sed -i 's/false/true/g' eula.txt
fi
fi
# Add RAM options to Java options if necessary
if [ ! -z "${MC_RAM}" ]
then
JAVA_OPTS="-Xms${MC_RAM} -Xmx${MC_RAM} ${JAVA_OPTS}"
fi
fi
if [ -e run.sh ]
then
exec ./run.sh
else
# Start server
exec java -server ${JAVA_OPTS} -jar ${JAR_NAME} nogui
fi
frank otter
oh that's bigger than I expected
so yeah that's the script I use for the server I run in docker somewhere
and now that I read it I realise it will not work
worn ember
hm looks like my config still thinks its an older version
stupid jenkins, reee
lmao i uninstalled it and now i cant reinstall it cuz the certificates expired? gg wp
golden gust
what cert expired? o.O
worn ember
Err:11 https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian binary/ Release
Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate chain uses expired certificate. Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification. [IP: 2a04:4e42:3::645 443]
unless that means i'm using an outdated one?
worn ember
idk man im just copy pasting commands and its not working
spare venture
worn ember
The following NEW packages will be installed:
jenkins
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 141 not upgraded.
Need to get 71.0 MB of archives.
After this operation, 74.3 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Err:1 https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian-stable binary/ jenkins 2.289.1
Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate chain uses expired certificate. Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification. [IP: 2a04:4e42:3::645 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian-stable/binary/jenkins_2.289.1_all.deb Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate chain uses expired certificate. Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification. [IP: 2a04:4e42:3::645 443]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
i'm out of ideas and stuff to google at this point
i installed the ca-certificate package but that also did fuck all
worn ember
golden gust
141 outdated packages
bruh
do a full system update
no idea if there is a flag to get past some of that stuff
but, damn
update yo shit
worn ember
man this thing just has to run jenkins idrc about anything else tbh
golden gust
no but not keeping the system updated is what causes these stupid issues
ashen cliff
worn ember
apt -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update
Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification. [IP: 151.101.14.133 443] well hey at least it fails in ipv4 now
ashen cliff
Imagine APT actually doing that.
Can't be us.
Bro.
Use Ubuntu next time bro.
Auto updates and all that.
golden gust
also; update-ca-certificates -f
was a common one I had to tell people with debian years ago
I wanna doubt that it's relevant now, but, who know
worn ember
yeah that did nothing, i'll try that post
and people wonder why no one uses linux as a daily driver
ashen cliff
If you actually updated daily, it would work.
ashen cliff
To be fair, Linux would make my life like 10x easier, but also harder.
golden gust
but, this seems to be like, 100% on you
the certs are valid, something is wrong with your setup
ashen cliff
Well. Could just be the Jenkins servers being 💩 again.
Since they randomly do that for some reason.
Doesn't work on my Hetzner machine.
Works at home.
How?
worn ember
mines also a hetzner machine
golden gust
Who knows, maybe some rando shitty server, but, not seen that one before
worn ember
its updating all packages now, we'll see if magic is on my side
ashen cliff
Nah. I get it randomly just from Jenkins on my Hetzner machine.
No idea why and how, but usually fixes itself in like a day.
INB4: Man in the middle attack.
worn ember
just run hardware/software so old people forget how to exploit it
lilac zephyr
Like old log4j ;)
worn ember
well the super old versions dont have it
tropic flame
ipv6 is what causes these stupid issues
and they tell you it's the future
ah yes, let me connect to smwoskjw928201::20sjepwhwowoq11::sbwoqoqqq11::lmeow222
fuckin infrastructure suffers a supernova
spare venture
because that’s so different than connecting to 167.22.37.43:25565
tropic flame
it literally is
spare venture
how
lilac zephyr
i am still waiting for ipv6-only hetzner cloud instances
tropic flame
IPv4 is simpler to remember, i literally used to type my friend's IP to join his server from memory
tropic flame
i literally knew my friend's IP from memory to join his server
human readable enough for me
spare venture
it’s crazy how domain names solve this problem
tropic flame
it's crazy how they're not free
tropic flame
haha yes renew no-ip every 30 days brrr
worn ember
tho i dont think domain names canhave numbers
tropic flame
domain names could be implemented at the router level where you just bounce around servers until it figures it out and boom, no need to pay for it
I'd just go into my router settings
"haha I'll set up a fancy name"
done
worn ember
domain names could be implemented at the router level where you just bounce arou...
you can set it in your host file
tropic flame
yeah... i bet i can have logics.com for free just like that
spare venture
i know you’re being special on purpose but cmon
you know exactly what i meant
you also can’t have any IP address you want :shocked:
tropic flame
¯_(ツ)_/¯
worn ember
oh hey updating actually worked
just tell me to update then instead of bitching about certificates smh smh
fallen oracle
Smh why would you update software?
lilac zephyr
run everything in docker and then just run a new container so you only need to change image version 🤷♂️
fallen oracle
Been using Docker a lot more lately and it's been a lot of fun.
lilac zephyr
it's fun until you need to understand networking
fallen oracle
True.
worn ember
THE WORD "MASTER" IS BEING RETIRED AS THE TERM FOR THE MAIN JENKINS PROCESS
such kinkshaming
merry talon
Using compose too right?
spare venture
ded wtf
lilac zephyr
I like compose!
worn ember
https://i.imgur.com/VTyDf63.gif i already regret updating, who thought this was a good idea lmao
https://i.imgur.com/C4Lk8ul.gif webdesign is my passion
golden gust
esper IRC certs fucked?
mossy vessel
Gelukt
true canyon
esper IRC certs fucked?
Apparently.
worn ember
the joys of the end of the year amirite
true canyon
I don't have access to fix that at the moment, so that's neat 😂
mossy vessel
https://i.imgur.com/VTyDf63.gif i already regret updating, who thought this was ...
Rumors say, not using dated themes helps :P
worn ember
Rumors say, not using dated themes helps :P
feel free to recommend me one
http://afonsof.com/jenkins-material-theme/ im using this one
mossy vessel
None
spare venture
https://i.imgur.com/C4Lk8ul.gif webdesign is my passion
lmfao
worn ember
default is ugly af though
worn ember
mossy vessel
Smooth corners for tables are pog https://i.imgur.com/ERhvFSE.png
lilac zephyr
w11?
mossy vessel
No lol, that's the default. I was referring to dark theme/grayscale and color blindless
worn ember
this is what mine looks like without theme
mossy vessel
Yeah, table theme didn't make it into the newest RC
lilac zephyr
and some say that Finnish looks difficulty
mossy vessel
Still in the weekly line
worn ember
oh
yeah didnt bother with weekly
only took me like 2 hours to get an updated jenkins version
progress
mossy vessel
Got fancy new tables everywhere https://i.imgur.com/Cr137KX.png :P
worn ember
im not sure i like those rounded corners
they're too round lol
reduce the roundness by 20-30% and it would be a lot better imo
mossy vessel
I'll reduce the roundness of your glasses
worn ember
i do need glasses though
one of these days one of the legs is just gonna fall off lol
they're super loose
void void
buy some crazy glue now
worn ember
buy some crazy glue now
that wont hold
void void
I couldnt take it that EGGS couldnt be eaten in Minecraft, so I made some recipes.
spare venture
oo nice
void void
am trying to figure out howto deny using/eating certian things...
so users can click on sign to become Vegetarian, lol
spare venture
just make it permission based
clicking on the sign gives them the vegetarian permission, if they have vegetarian permission deny the item consume event
void void
ya, I gotta set up commands to modify the users permissions (its separate from groups)
am still learning
void void
Are there any things that should be Smelt-able in Vanilla (logically) but simply arent ?
rotten flesh --> leather is all I could think of
true canyon
Are you suggesting leather is a metal?
lament patio
Egg
golden gust
casual reminder that steel is heavier than feathers
mossy vessel
jenkins will make me lose my mind
lmao, master builds can read and modify ya jenkins home directory lol
rm rf jenkins cya
worn ember
casual reminder that steel is heavier than feathers
not if both are 1kg
golden gust
yea, but, then look at how much more feathers you have
worn ember
yes, 1kg of feathers
golden gust
Like, that's cheatin'
worn ember
lmao, master builds can read and modify ya jenkins home directory lol
rm rf jenk...
this is not worth all the struggle
mossy vessel
You likely have no declarative pipelines that engage with parts outside of the workspace ig
If no, it can be ignored 
worn ember
i dont even know what half of that means, so probably not
well the most annoying part is setting up credentials for the ssh connection
i'll do that tomorrow when my braincells come back to life
mossy vessel
You get used to it some time
worn ember
if i ever lose the cert on my desktop i'm fucked cuz its the only way to log into my server
i dont remember the password
worn ember
i think at that point im just not paying for it anymore xD i cant do this all again and keep my sanity
golden gust
Can we factory reset DED?
worn ember
will you give me a java course after then?
golden gust
I'm only willing to teach you what you already actually knew
ranging from "the oven is hot" and "the toilet is over there"
golden gust
GOD FUCKING
I just found that one of my VM disks was on the / partition
so, moved that, forgot to shutdown the VM thinking proxmox would stop me if I tried to do anything dumb
Looked back at the terminal, thing is stuck there like, Restarting swirly BS
few minutes, nothing other than that, hit the shutdown button in proxmox, apparently it's tryna update...
worn ember
this is why they have kid locks on cough syrup bottles
spare venture
rotten flesh --> leather is all I could think of
is this logical? is leather supposed to be that common? will cows become extinct due to being useless? :(((
worn ember
could make it a very long process
smelting taking long, maybe have a sub type
and then turn into leather
chrome cosmos
rotten flesh --> leather is all I could think of
to purified flesh -> unprocessed meat -> raw leather --> leather
gregtech is fun
spare venture
no it isn’t
chrome cosmos
r/wooosh
void void
Iz zombie leather technically vegan? i mean... you arent killing a "living" thing for it
spare venture
the whole point is killing or harming a living thing for the product ded
which he said
so actually smal brain?
chrome cosmos
Iz zombie leather technically vegan? i mean... you arent killing a "living" thin...
milk
worn ember
what if it starved a natural death
if you dont feed it, you're not killing it, it just happens to die cuz it needs food
spare venture
would encourage people to breed them to let them starve
chrome cosmos
zoombie breeding pog
void void
I mean... if a furnace can cook a potato, it can cure leather
apparently the things adjustable, lol
void void
the game doesnt specify if its been butchered, or if it still has like, all the layers
worn ember
or rotten flesh as the game calls it
spare venture
yeah flesh could still have the skin
void void
leather is just skin
spare venture
leather is just warm skin
chrome cosmos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHa3V9ct1JI
this farm scales up depending on the time run if lag is spotted auto slow down 👀
void void
maybe I will just make cooking rotten --> leather take a lot of fuel or something
worn ember
just make it a tedious proces
chrome cosmos
maybe I will just make cooking rotten --> leather take a lot of fuel or somethi...
tooo less come on atleast 1 stack
chrome cosmos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHa3V9ct1JI
this farm scales up depending on th...
if lag is spotted auto slow down by some rrandom llama ai thing
worn ember
if it just takes a lot of time people iwll just afk it anyway, if you make it expensive people will find a way to automate getting that resource
spare venture
just make it take longer, furnace cook time or whatever can be adjusted
leather gonna be worthless on your server tho
thorny totem
Is linode known to host booters? Getting botted my dedi atm
spare venture
assuming zombie farms are really easy to make on your server
chrome cosmos
which is very rare
golden gust
pretty much every cheap commodity host has been used for booters
like, people literally have drones infecting unsecure hosts 24/7
thorny totem
Seems OVH can't filter them rip
golden gust
ask me how I know :L
spare venture
drones?!!?!
potent fossil
Is linode known to host booters? Getting botted my dedi atm
They won't really know unless you tell them. I don't know if they are known to host them often but they are known to get rid of them, they don't want that on their platform
spare venture
picturing drones sneaking into a dc and injecting malicious code into the machines
what an inspiring picture
golden gust
depends on the attack type, OVHs anti DDoS is good for the traditional stuff but useless for app specific stuff
worn ember
can you tell when i updated my packages?
potent fossil
Anyway, has anyone made stuff with CF workers or the like? Glare and I are thinking about it but we need a database and I can't find any cheap options unless we just run our own on a vps but then having the entire app edge deployed is defeated by every edge connecting to the one vps 
spare venture
never had an issues with being in their perm mitigation mode
potent fossil
put your server into permanent mitigation mode :>
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