general

[void void]

Going to guess it doesn't actually compile in your browser

[potent fossil]

just watched the big sick finally, great movie 🥺

[pastel reef]

Is there a big difference between using an i3 and an i5 for a Minecraft Server?

[limber knot]

definitely

i3s are the lower tier ones

[half hawk]

this makes me anxious

[frank otter]

quick question before I forget

[pastel reef]

Can an i3 handle 10 Players in 1.18 paper?

[half hawk]

i5 are generally better than i3 but just find a cpu with good single core performance

[frank otter]

when I set up https with traefik it just asks let's encrypt for a certificate of domain with email

what happens if I set it up with a domain I don't own

[half hawk]

errors happen

[frank otter]

will it give me the cert and just never have it signed?

[half hawk]

it wont give you a cert

[frank otter]

hmm

[half hawk]

it will never validate because if you dont own the domain you won't be able to point it to your server (http validation) or change dns

[golden gust]

LE has two modes of operation

1 is that it looks for the DNS record

[frank otter]

oh the tcp challenge thing

ahh

[golden gust]

the other is that it sends a http request for a file which is generated with some magical token for them to test agains

So, unless you can point it to your server or add a DNS record, can't do it

[frank otter]

damn that's a little annoying I needed to spoof requests to github gists for one thing

my friend set up a motd plugin that pulls motds from a gist

I wanted to route the request to a server on localhost so I could mess with him a bit

[potent fossil]

so..then...just run a traefik listener on http instead of https and it wont need a cert to begin with??

[void void]

self signed cert and trust it?

[frank otter]

the request is to https://gist....

[half hawk]

just... hex edit the plugin and change the domain name?

its just a zip file

[frank otter]

oh ohh I forgot about that

[half hawk]

i bet .class files have strings somewhere

[potent fossil]

or that

[frank otter]

I'm sorry I'm bad at java

[half hawk]

no worries, we all start somewhere

[potent fossil]

or just skip the cert bullshit if it's for testing and run it without ssl

but oke

[frank otter]

can I just like unzip, edit class file with hex, remove the s from http and re-zip?

[half hawk]

this is more like general system administration than java programming

[potent fossil]

you could do that, or change the domain entirely

[half hawk]

its likely and i'd love to know if it works

[frank otter]

ight I'm trying it I guess

[frank otter]

ty simple and potat

[half hawk]

potat

[potent fossil]

yes rename yourself to potat

[half hawk]

gotcha

[potent fossil]

good

[frank otter]

potat!

[pastel reef]

If I run two Minecraft Servers on one machine, will each server use one core or will both use the same?

[golden gust]

depends on your OSes scheduler and what it determines to be best, basically

[frank otter]

hmm I have found and unzipped and located url

can I change how long it is in the bytecode without screwing it over

[half hawk]

keep the same length and filesize for higher chances of success

[frank otter]

hmmm

[half hawk]

you can do stupid stuff like http://localhost.................................................../motd.txt as far as i know

dns should allow it lol

or better yet

replace https://gist.github.com/blahblah/blahblah/motd.txt?raw=true with something like http://localhost/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/motd.txt maybe?

[frank otter]

yep I think imma do that

I am guessing I can't just nvim a bytecode file

can I?

[half hawk]

idk, i stopped using vim when i built this gaming computer and put windows 10 on it

[frank otter]

let's try it

what could go wrong

[half hawk]

inb4 system crashes

[lean kiln]

use recaf

[upbeat falcon]

Col-E/Recaf: The modern Java bytecode editor - GitHub

https://github.com/Col-E/Recaf

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[golden gust]

I'll recaf ur decaff

[lean kiln]

I don't drink decaf

[golden gust]

Good.

[potent fossil]

this sounds like a riveting discussion

but i am here to kill a cat and then go to bed

.kill electroniccat

[limber knot]

shoves electroniccat into a microwave and waits until they pop.

[potent fossil]

and i've just killed the cat, so goodnight

[golden gust]

||one of my mates in high school told me of how he tried to dry a bunny or something in the micro wha vay|| [just, no]

[frank otter]

this would be very nice if I wasnt on mobile

will keep it in mind

[magic mesa]

Honestly sounds like something one of my high school friends would do, he put an animal in an oven as a joke and posted it on snapchat, police and school admins were waiting for him on arrival, would also like to make it clear the oven was very clearly off and nothing ever really happened other than being kicked out or having a long time in isolation

[pastel reef]

Could the paper devs make software that uses multiple cores?

[potent fossil]

Yes, they just need to flip the "use multiple cores" flag. It's easy.

But will they? No.

Why? Because they are evil.

[golden gust]

I mean

threading on its nature is not hard

[potent fossil]

You heard it here first folks.

[golden gust]

I write software which takes advantage of threading all the time

Getting the design nailed down for an game as complex as MC? and retaining support for shit like plugins? glhf

[potent fossil]

Like I said. Evil.

[pastel reef]

So all I need to do is change one value in the code or what?

[potent fossil]

Yup.

[pastel reef]

Oh wow

[potent fossil]

Okay I'm done trolling, goodnight

[pastel reef]

Beautifully simple

[void void]

Papermc team secretely has a deal with cpu companies so they can sell more single threaded performance cpus!!!!11!

[pastel reef]

What line in what file is it?

[void void]

gn simple

[pastel reef]

When I decompile paper.jar

Would it put much of a burden onto my machine if a ran 3 servers? It's quad i5.

[frank otter]

I myself tend to find ram more of a limit than cpu tbh

[pastel reef]

Is that so? Well then I shouldn't have problems with my 32GB then.

[frank otter]

yeah that dhouls quite easily clear three servers

*should

hmm traefik is broken again so i cannot test the thingy

[frank otter]

curious

Firefox will load it but wget cannot

OK no wtf

I cant curl it from the machine it is running on?

how is it this badly broken

[waxen panther]

where the cool people

[untold meadow]

right there

[half hawk]

potat

[waxen panther]

oh my god it’s kezz

[limber knot]

i am scared for my friend's sanity https://naomi.s-ul.eu/NC96n7sq

[foggy veldt]

Is there no bot commands channel or am I blind

[void void]

@untold meadow best kezz

[void void]

there isn't, most people use #the-silents

[half hawk]

there arent any bots here (just the moderation ones)

[void void]

But there aren't that many bots so...

[limber knot]

wtf

i am a bot

[half hawk]

you are a bot

[foggy veldt]

I just needed to use a tag and didn’t want to clutter general

[frank otter]

let's go it works now

just had to mess with hosts file

[brave mountain]

Hi, good morning

When i connect to my minecraft server it sows the router IP as the player IP
[/192.168.70.1:23116] logged in with entity, what do i need to change on the router to be able to see the public IP of the player. (fortigate)

[golden gust]

I mean, that generally imples that you're not IP forwarding properly or you have something mangling with connections

I mean, NAT forwarding

[frank otter]

@half hawk in case you are still interested it worked!

[brave mountain]

It was enable, going to test it out.

[ashen cliff]

INB4 Bungee without ip forwarding enabled.

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/WholesomeMeme/status/1466863810342539268?t=nzptIL8xRVJl0-WVVIjJww&s=19

WholesomeMemes (@WholesomeMeme)

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[golden gust]

no.

bad.

[vernal moth]

I laughed too hard at that

[golden gust]

but, if you insist.

[crisp sinew]

Hiii

Paper, good job team

1.18 paper is vgud 10/10

[worn ember]

🗞️

[void void]

why is it blurred lmao

can't have the paper team patching my top secret redstone contraption!

[ashen cliff]

Top of the nether.
Also nice duped pistons. 🛌

As it should be.

[frank otter]

even the bedrock?

[remote pelican]

I'm going to run a small private SMP with my friends, should I wait until paper releases 1.18 or risk trying to run the vanilla server jar?

[ashen cliff]

The experimental Paper build should be fine.

[worn ember]

Are these all 1.18 exploits?

[ashen cliff]

Excuse him, he can't read.

[worn ember]

That's not good sir

[ashen cliff]

Yet.

[worn ember]

Sorry I don't read blurred

Or anything really

Yeah

wow thats very cool

ok mr hacker

[limber knot]

yes

[worn ember]

yes it is very stupid

true

[void geyser]

You guys probably already see this, but what do you guys think is happening? This guy got reincarnated as skeleton🗿

[little frost]

it gets better though, speedrunners use zelda exploits to speedrun other games faster

[void geyser]

Some say it was a uuid kind of thing

[hoary belfry]

hey, i have a dumb question, is it possible to make a paper mc 1.18 server? or is development still undergoing?

[lament patio]

It is possible to put one up, just not guaranteed to be stable yet

[golden gust]

#❗-1-18

[hoary belfry]

thanks for the answer

[grave holly]

anyone know what this is about?

[void void]

Generally happens when the server didn't shut down properly

[grave holly]

is there a way to alleviate it? and does it cause an issue?

[warm anchor]

it should only spam you once

[grave holly]

It happens every time the chunk where the duplicated uuid entity is loaded

[warm anchor]

I guess it's part of your server now

[plucky sparrow]

Am in love with Dart

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge mari mari mari mari

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon wavers

[twin lagoon]

[prime marsh]

Anyone knows why this happens? It's not a client side problem since it has happened to multiple users.

[minor badge]

I'm watching the video on Linus & Luke from LTT using Linux and it's so incredibly frustrating watching Linus try to open zips while they're not complete yet lmao

[plucky sparrow]

I saw that on my notifications

i decided not to watch it because it's probably bs

[void void]

Linus right clicking save as on gh was also fun

[quasi valley]

but I kind of have to agree most of what he encounters comes down to user unfriendly design

the zip one was pepela with the giant screen and the progressbar at the bottom right corner

[minor badge]

yeah, absolutely it is

and bad integrations etc

[unkempt drift]

I get that Linus isn’t a developer, but it was really surprising that he didn’t know how to get a script from GitHub into smth he could run on the command line

[grave holly]

your chunks just aren't loading

[minor badge]

as someone who's used Linux for longer than Windows at this point, I am 100% sure I'd have the same problems if I'd try to use Windows as my daily driver for a month

[golden gust]

"I was elected to lead, not to read"

I think an aspect of it is that linus is somewhat of a lazy person who generally kinda doesn't wanna read and such

Like, the huge ass giant warning saying it was gonna yeet the desktop

[minor badge]

he demonstrated that in the video very clearly skipping over huge portions of text going "yada yada"

[quasi valley]

wasn't that when he was 10 seconds before the 15 minute mark anyways?

[prime marsh]

Yeah but at the same time there's no lag or anything :b

[minor badge]

yep, on a task that wasn't clearly defined no less :p

Linus and Luke just did entirely different things

[void void]

I kinda wanna see Anthony reacts to this

[minor badge]

haha that'd be great

[golden gust]

Theres some aspects of it being nuanced

Like, a key issue of linux is that, whenever you ask for help, we expect that you know the basics

e.g. cd, ./script, etc

and, like, what do you do to deal with those who can't? slap a url to them to teach them some "how to linux" course which goes way above what they need at that point in time?

[worn ember]

to be fair how is he supposed to know if theres not really any visual for it, like you saw the size go up in the zip but other than that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

The thing about linux is that it assumes you know x and y

[minor badge]

there was a progress bar in the corner of his screen as he saw later on lol

[worn ember]

bad design then :p

[minor badge]

absolutely, agree on that, but I feel that the size changing constantly would be a pretty clear tell-tale sign

especially so when he knows there's a huge video file in it on a slow drive

[worn ember]

yeah thats true, but again, assuming things here

we all know linus is the average computer user. No patience, missing "obvious" things etc

some of the challenges also weren't really clear lol

like the digital signing

[minor badge]

yeah, though one would think he'd picked up a thing or two in the years he's been running LTT

and yep, that one was really unclear

and very envious that their printers were that easy peasy to set up; I had to do some proper hoop hopping to get a laserjet working lol

[worn ember]

Well to be fair he's mostly into the hardware side of stuff, not so much software and OS

mine also just worked on windows after installing the drivers, many people seem to have issues with them on windows too

[minor badge]

yeaah I saw that when googling around to figure it out

[worn ember]

Luke knows what he's doing more so cuz he's a software dev, so its more or less up his alley

the way he googled things triggered me tho

typing in entire sentences instead of just the keywords

[golden gust]

How 2 delet ded

[coarse lily]

how do i make my linux cook toast for me thx

[golden gust]

Install gentoo

[coarse lily]

Okay do I get that from the grocery store?

[tawny idol]

actually you can get toast from your package manager

[unkempt drift]

you brits put an h in synchronise right?

not syncronise

[void void]

Pretty sure its synchronise in american english too?

[unkempt drift]

nah, its synchronize

your last PR noah is missing an h

[void void]

literally unmergeable

why does re-requesting review from an individual remove the pending group review in GH

[unkempt drift]

git branch --format "%(refname:short) %(upstream:trackshort)" | awk '{if (!$2) print $1;}'
my new fav command ^

[topaz mortar]

I thought the only diff is s vs. z

[unkempt drift]

thats what I thought too

[void void]

i just did a dum, was a typo

[charred sleet]

yes we do

[frank otter]

I forgot tiled emojis existed

_ _

mmm close

[void void]

[half hawk]

nice!

[void void]

I am quite late to this, but I was wondering what the paper team’s view of the nocom exploit is. I have heard the story from the side of the griefers but what is you guys stance?

Have you guys made changes internally to prevent exploits like this in the future

Nocom was the 1.12 exploit that allowed you to find out if a certain chunk was loaded by sending a interact packet to it, right?

[coarse lily]

It got patched

So I think that kinda makes Paper’s position clear.

They think it should be patched.

So they patched it.

[void void]

Well of course lol

Of course it got patched

It was an exploit

I was not asking if it got patched

[coarse lily]

So what else is there to know about Paper’s position on it?

[untold meadow]

Go and read the GitHub repo description if you want an answer

[void void]

Did you not read my question?

[void void]

Yeah

[coarse lily]

You asked what their view was.

[void void]

Although I didn’t know it was only on 1.12

[untold meadow]

Paper patches exploits and bugs

[magic river]

Wasn't that a Paper bug?

[coarse lily]

You’re a paper bug!

[void void]

It was

It was a really interesting exploit

They basically baited paper maintainers to unknowingly make the exploit work better

[magic river]

I didn't get the impression that was intentional

[void void]

I would hope they do, being the at the forefront of minecraft server software

[magic river]

Someone filed a bug report, the fix for it accidentally added the exploit

[untold meadow]

yes that's literally what they've always done like forever

[magic river]

Like, I don't think the people who filed the report were trying to get the exploit added

[void void]

Oh no, they filed the report knowing the patch for it would create a new better exploit

[void void]

They were, i think they explain that in their, writeup

[worn ember]

people make papers on exploits?

[magic river]

People take 2b2t way too seriously

[void void]

I don’t think I agree, what do you mean by that?

[worn ember]

i mean to each their own, if thats your thing, go for it i guess

[magic river]

🖐️ 🏞️

[void void]

They made a paper on a paper exploit

paperception!

[void void]

Lol

[magic river]

I was way too in to fixing exploits and making Minecraft servers not suck for a few years, it wasn't healthy

The way people obsess over this stuff makes me cringe and think back to that time

[worn ember]

i can see how trying to abuse/exploit game mechanics to their absolute limit could be interesting and stuff just not for me

but actively trying to introduce them to the game is too far

[magic river]

They weren't even doing it for commercial gain via youtube videos or selling it or something

They were doing it just so they could grief things on a server

[worn ember]

yeah, not even to prove a point xD

[void void]

Finding exploits in software is very positive behaviour, provided it’s responsibly disclosed

[worn ember]

which it wasnt in this case

[void void]

Even if its not, it still improved paper by giving the exploit exposure.

[coarse lily]

I don’t think any of the people finding the exploits are doing it to improve anything.

So it probably doesn’t make sense to attribute any good will to them.

At least in this case.

[foggy veldt]

Get fucked nerd I found your secret underground chest room by my custom made async (insert emojis people use here) hacked client that exploits a bug in papers packet deserializing code that allows for code execution

[worn ember]

[void void]

If they did not want to improve server software they would not have made the exploit public

[foggy veldt]

.g pride

[quasi valley]

it was fixed before it was made public lol

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Pride Pride is positive emotional response or attitude to something with an intimate connection to... (https://duckduckgo.com/Pride?v=i&kp=1)

[void void]

Ah

[warm anchor]

Kneny is biggest 2b2t insighter

[void void]

How did paper become aware?

[warm anchor]

He’s friends with the infamous griefer popbob

[void void]

X to doubt

[warm anchor]

Ok I am cringin myself to death. I will stop now

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[foggy veldt]

This was pretty tame for your usual level of cringe

[warm anchor]

Wow

Says abstraq I am honored

[worn ember]

well then guess its time for everything to break again

[warm anchor]

“This is fine”

[true canyon]

Idolizing 'griefers' is such a weird concept.

[quasi valley]

I love you for breaking into my heart ||and feeding my wife and kids to the goblins||

[true canyon]

🤔

[coarse lily]

Kenny’s had a rough week

Kenny needs some Oreos

[worn ember]

Ore OS

minecraft themed OS

[quasi valley]

I'll take some oreos any day

[coarse lily]

Atta boy

[worn ember]

only some?

take the whole pack

[true canyon]

We call it Hangar now

[worn ember]

hangar wen

[unkempt drift]

being refactored into Hangar OS, a custom linux distro

[quasi valley]

You're probably one of those people that takes 3 out of the gummy bair brand called "take 2" https://i.imgur.com/H5ZkCqT.png

[ashen cliff]

Fact.

[worn ember]

If you did it in ASP.NET it wouldve been live already /s

[void void]

if you did it in php it would've been live already!

and a nightmare to maintain

that is, if you write php in the way I write php

[worn ember]

i struggle to structure anything if its not OOP

[unkempt drift]

anyone else's file previews just not work? the new ones discord has

[ashen cliff]

Just write PHP OOP?

[worn ember]

works fine for me

[unkempt drift]

oh I mean the text file ones

[ashen cliff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/508562150651068416/909994005725601832/caption.gif

Oh.

[worn ember]

that also works last time i tried

it does also randomly refresh for me though

[void void]

it stopped randomly refreshing for me on canary

the discord experience™️

[worn ember]

yeah

not sure if its still happening, havent been on most of the day

[unkempt drift]

I always get

am on linux, and it's been working for me whenever I boot up windows

[coarse lily]

Are you trying to upload viruses?

[worn ember]

Discord consistency probably

[upbeat falcon]

test.txt by @unkempt drift: https://paste.gg/db07848de7d444afb8b429dfba13ca8c

[unkempt drift]

yeah, I just get the "Could not render this file preview"

even though its just plain ol' txt file

[coarse lily]

Discord is janky

[upbeat falcon]

Toggl_Track_summary_report_2021-11-18_2021-12-01_1.csv by @worn ember: https://paste.gg/e25d501966494b50a7417c23123fc10c

[unkempt drift]

nope, nothing

[worn ember]

[unkempt drift]

well, not nothing, but I get the same error

yeah, am on linux.

installed via the community repo, so iirc, pacman -Syu discord

how should I install it?

[timber kindle]

random question; is anyone familiar with scripting in worldpainter?

or familiar with JavaScript?

[worn ember]

.ask

well i tried

[crystal lily]

Don't ask to ask.

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[void void]

I hate discord's slash commands

they feel so clunky to use

[foggy silo]

agreed x)

[plucky sparrow]

agree

even worse to code

[worn ember]

no u

[plucky sparrow]

stop talking to me

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/disgust-disgusting-puke-vomit-eww-gif-19262390

[plucky sparrow]

this is harass

im reporting u

[worn ember]

i dab on you

[meager tusk]

Funniest Paper Convo

[worn ember]

Now its ruined

[plucky sparrow]

indeed

[meager tusk]

Was ruined when your name popped up in chat

[worn ember]

thats not very nice

[meager tusk]

Ok

Sucks

[charred edge]

Whats best option to allow playing my server only for my couple of friends with offline mode enabled?

[plucky sparrow]

its ok ded

[unkempt drift]

“Offline mode enabled” funny-sounding

[void void]

Anyone can spoof their name to whatever they want with offline mode

[charred edge]

Yea i know... But... Not all of friends have license for f*ck sake. sigh

[plucky sparrow]

where's the bingo sheet

[vernal moth]

That's what am gonna tell the cops next time I take my neighbors Tesla

[limber knot]

"license"

[half hawk]

OI MATE U OUGHTA HAVE A LOICENSE FOR TAHT 🇬🇧

[lavish compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/915671353682698330/Offline_Mode_Bingo.png

[limber knot]

minecraft is well within christmas present budget, js

[vernal moth]

For you

Minecraft doesn't have regional pricing

[uneven grove]

It kind of does but it's more or less the same sum without any regional locks

Like in USD it's around $1.5 more expensive than in RUR

The Christmas budget isn't the same in the US as in Kenya, I guess

[hexed geyser]

i wish there were an easier source of blue ice.

[vernal moth]

That's not regional pricing that's just currency conversions being bullshit

[hexed geyser]

the ice highway must be built, no matter how many silk touch axes it takes!

[rotund cargo]

"Our currency, your problem" America :)

Was in 1971 if I remember

(Because of Bretton Woods etc)

[uneven grove]

Sorry, I'm not exactly following this, how stable is the latest build?
I'm running a server for a bunch or friends, and I want to use a grave plugin.

[hexed geyser]

the answer to this is almost always if you are worried about it wait for stable release

[vernal moth]

Tens of thousands of servers run it and it seems to be fine?

[hexed geyser]

otherwise, take backups and run it.

[vernal moth]

Do regular automated backups, do your own testing and you should be good to go

[rotund cargo]

It's experimental but in its current state I would use it for my friends and me ^^

[uneven grove]

Yeah, I understand there are bugs but I mean there's a difference between bugs that kill bees and bugs that corrupt world data

[hexed geyser]

personally, i never really worry about it. its minecraft. worst case scenario i lose a day of server.

[vernal moth]

That label we only add because we want people to be careful

[uneven grove]

Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!

[hexed geyser]

note, thats assuming daily backups of world

[vernal moth]

For data loss you should have regular backups, some people up their rate of backups in the early days to like 4 a day instead of just one for example

[hexed geyser]

DAE have to use a cactus+furnace farm for XP just to keep repairing pickaxes with silktouch? 😛

[void void]

Guys it might seem dumb im New to Server hosting how do u download 1.16.5 paper servers bc I can't find them on the download Page

[hexed geyser]

https://papermc.io/legacy

[void void]

Ty

[magic river]

Ooh, Terralith has a 1.18 version

[coarse lily]

Is this offline mode bingo?

[spiral robin]

yep

[coarse lily]

Classic

Looks like Eternity made it because of the anime icon

[safe plover]

Anyone knows what is this texture pack called ?

[magic river]

That's called shaders

Oh, wait, the textures are wrong

[safe plover]

Yeaaaah, they are indeed

[limber knot]

f8thful still is my goto 😔

[plucky sparrow]

lmao

imagine not using faithful 128x

[foggy veldt]

It took me a bit to see what was wrong

[limber knot]

i like the 8x8 look

it's cozy and cute

anything else just looks off to me now

[spiral robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/687685009380999212.gif?size=24

[limber knot]

ok aberdeener

[plucky sparrow]

i was gonna dm you but realised you're banned

smh

[void void]

I mean, you can still dm her

just not on discord

[plucky sparrow]

2 much work

[foggy silo]

banned?

[plucky sparrow]

Yea she too dum for discor

[limber knot]

literally dm me on twitter dap

gg

[waxen panther]

ok

[limber knot]

hello broccolai how are you

[charred sleet]

bad

[limber knot]

big rip

[waxen panther]

GREAT thank you

[worn ember]

vegies only live a few weeks

[untold meadow]

not if you eat them

[untold meadow]

then they live forever

[waxen panther]

who ate me

[untold meadow]

idk

[limber knot]

michale did

pretty sure

[waxen panther]

god i wish

[untold meadow]

maybe you did broc

[waxen panther]

🤨

[limber knot]

wtf! brocc honry on main?

[plucky sparrow]

it’s taking a little longer

[untold meadow]

shush minor >:(

[worn ember]

wouldn't eat brocc, he been bad

[limber knot]

bro

he's got a parasitic soul

i mean he reincarnates

what the fuck brian

[twin lagoon]

[void void]

[limber knot]

ok but broccoli is good and should be appreciated by more people

al dente in the pasta sauce 🥵

[spiral robin]

naomi WHY are you simping

@twin lagoon

[limber knot]

since when am i not allowed to simp

[little frost]

@untold meadow best kezzzzzzz

[limber knot]

i agree

rymiel best emilia

[untold meadow]

@little frost BEST emiliaieaeeym

[little frost]

kezz password generator

[limber knot]

kezzword generator

[warm anchor]

Best @twin lagoon ???

[worn ember]

🍆

[limber knot]

🍆

[void void]

[waxen panther]

what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck

[limber knot]

brocc are you okay

[hexed geyser]

true story

case in point.

a broccoli a day keeps my beetus at bay

[twin lagoon]

this sounds good

[hexed geyser]

understated! they are delishuuus

found at costco here in washington state.

[limber knot]

there's no costco where michael lives

a sligro or makro at most

[warm anchor]

???

Have a good night @waxen panther don’t forget the morning meeting with @twin lagoon

[waxen panther]

michael doesn't come to the morning meeting bc he's lazy

[twin lagoon]

is the meeting at 10 or 11am

[waxen panther]

10 for me

11 for you

i think

[foggy veldt]

Do you microwave it? Doesn’t seem like something I’d enjoy cold

[twin lagoon]

zzzzzzzzzz

[limber knot]

thanks for reminding me to enable my alarm

[hexed geyser]

It's dry hard crunchy. It's a crispy snack

[foggy veldt]

:o

[limber knot]

ok but cheese on broccoli?

nah fam

does not mix

[foggy veldt]

What

Cheese and broccoli is literally the best combo

[formal turret]

white cheese and broccoli does mix

dunno if i'd do it all the time but it tastes pretty good

[foggy veldt]

All cheese even American

[limber knot]

cheddar x parmesan sounds like a plane crash imminent in 5s

just, why

they clash so mcuh

[limber knot]

i have the sudden urge to play starcraft

but my friends dont wanna play w/ me :c

[left swift]

@waxen panther daily ping

nice

[waxen panther]

it is TRULY incredible how many pings i have in papermc™️

[left swift]

victim of pings

[waxen panther]

i am

[left swift]

they just think they're pinging billie eilish

[limber knot]

i'm not pinging out of politeness 😤

[left swift]

also cuz you would ping the wrong person

[limber knot]

no i just have no reason to ping brocc

[left swift]

right

[limber knot]

why would i annoy him any more than you are already doing

[left swift]

he needs it

[waxen panther]

troll face

[limber knot]

that would simply be rude

[left swift]

its not being rude to brocc

its almost required by law in atleast 30 countries

[limber knot]

oh yeah? name all of them

[left swift]

canada mexico united states spain france sweden brazil equador chile egypt russia ukraine japan china vietnam india turkey iran finland argentina azerbaijan australia barbados belize denmark fiji ethopia georgia germany

[swift root]

Really? I guess I'll be a criminal then.

[left swift]

its ok larry you are illegal citizen anyways

[swift root]

You also forgot Ghana

And Bhutan

[left swift]

oh the legislation passed?

nice!

[swift root]

Both

Yes

[limber knot]

now i can legally be nice to brocc

[left swift]

netherlands passing the law in january

[worn ember]

get rekt kaaskop

[waxen panther]

there's a UN law about being nice to me

[swift root]

Yes unfortunately it says to not be nice. Also unfortunately the UN has no power.

[left swift]

we dont honor the UN

[limber knot]

in jan?

[worn ember]

United Nope

[left swift]

oh let me translate for you brocc

[limber knot]

well shucks better get my practice in

[left swift]

we dont "honour" the UN

there you go

[limber knot]

@ brocc monkemodmail > tickets

[waxen panther]

incorrect

[worn ember]

broccoli has an iq of 2.81

[waxen panther]

the tickets 8th rewrite will be the best thing ever made

[limber knot]

monkemodmail so good it doesnt even need a rewrite

B)

[worn ember]

can't be bad if it doesnt compile amirite

[left swift]

ded hows rtp rewrite going

[worn ember]

can't test cuz it literally crashes servers rn

[void void]

Go pr a crash fix then

[worn ember]

Nah

its beyond me, even MM doesnt know why it happens lol

[limber knot]

MM

not knowing why it breaks

sounds about right

[worn ember]

don't you need to go sleep or something

[limber knot]

im watching netflix

ofc i don't need to go sleep

[worn ember]

do it anyway

[limber knot]

yeah might head off soon

[worn ember]

Soon™️

[limber knot]

need to finish nbt parser on valk as well

[left swift]

naomi gonna turn on the 50 line AI soon to make it seem like they're still here

[proud lily]

Someone called badbird told me to join this

[left swift]

cool

[limber knot]

why would i turn on an ai

[left swift]

because it's more entertaining than you

[limber knot]

i'm too random too be replaced by an ai

[void void]

Artificial “intelligence”

[foggy silo]

Artificial ignorance!!!

[left swift]

can we talk to naomiAI please this conversation is boring

[limber knot]

"Artificial" "Intelligence"

i should honestly just write a python script and release it in the valk discord lol

wish i had telegram installed on my laptop so i could tell felenov about the idea directly but i'm dumb and forgot it for day 3 in a row

i just feed it my chat history and boom nAIome

[plucky sparrow]

What have I missed

[worn ember]

yuck

[plucky sparrow]

I have bad news…

Naomi has always been an AI

[foggy silo]

"Bot" it says it all!!!

[limber knot]

dap clearly has not been in the voice chats

smh

[foggy silo]

then explain

SIRI (from apple)

[limber knot]

explain what?

[foggy silo]

That's right.

you can't

[foggy veldt]

This reminds me, why do none of you guys use cloud-annotations? Is it too limiting or do you guys just not feel like it

[waxen panther]

i prefer the builders

never been a fan of magical annotations, aside from things like moonshine

[worn ember]

link to tickets?

[plucky sparrow]

Siri can also talk

[waxen panther]

master branch is cringe

[plucky sparrow]

What’s your point

[foggy silo]

Same, I don't like how annotations can just make your code have magical new methods and such.

[worn ember]

i like it, less typing for me

[limber knot]

only annotation i need is [has_globals] outside of vlib

[minor badge]

👋

[limber knot]

hi mari

how are ya

[void void]

hey everyone

[limber knot]

o//

[limber knot]

aight well imma go

gn yall

stay cool, except for cat, he can stay frozen.

[foggy silo]

GN

[tropic flame]

sorry, Naomi, but crimg

unbased

[marsh charm]

I could have swore one of spigot/bukkit/paper/essentialsx had something to modify the percent of players that need to be asleep

[void void]

anyone know how to increase entity range on paper?

[marsh charm]

hmm looks like no I must be crazy

😄

[brave radish]

there's a gamerule

[marsh charm]

ahah

[brave radish]

playersSleepingPercentage

if you set it to 0 it just means one player

[marsh charm]

so I'm not cmpletely crazy

[brave radish]

it's like 1.17 and up tho

[brave mountain]

Who is gonna see "no hay home"?

[inner crypt]

Is this the place to be asking about making a server from scratch?

[brave radish]

well, #paper-help , but yeah this is the server

[inner crypt]

Here is fine?

Oh okay, thanks

[brave mountain]

Google may be useful too.

[brave radish]

v tru

[potent fossil]

[left swift]

[potent fossil]

wtf mana

[still turtle]

[potent fossil]

@austere ivy btw, since i haven't reminded in over a year

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/719686438404489236/Capture.PNG
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/719686466724167680/Capture.PNG1.PNG

[waxen panther]

broccolai just slid into the server

[potent fossil]

hello broccolai (victim of moderation)

how are you today

[waxen panther]

good good

doin a little gaming

how are you

[potent fossil]

good good

doin a little dying over schoolwork

thanks for asking

[twin lagoon]

apex ?

[vestal jasper]

@austere ivy

hi

[waxen panther]

yes

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

we're playing a meme squad

all information characters

[twin lagoon]

when are you not playing a meme squad .

[waxen panther]

diamond

[vestal jasper]

.

[twin lagoon]

@vestal jasper

[potent fossil]

hi michal 🥺

[twin lagoon]

pimple 🥺

[potent fossil]

I wish I was rich so I could buy a very fancy desk with built in cable management and floating chassis

[twin lagoon]

get yourself a custom wooden desk made

[potent fossil]

what

[twin lagoon]

it'll be the best purchase you can make and it'll only cost you 4 digits

and then you also buy a herman miller chair to finish it all

[potent fossil]

What magnitude of 4 digits

[twin lagoon]

yes

[potent fossil]

You know the chairs are going to bankrupt you when the site doesn't show them on the product catalogue

[radiant oriole]

why do I feel like this is michael just going completely nuts so he can call things business expenses

[twin lagoon]

i got you fam

https://store.hermanmiller.com/office-chairs-aeron/aeron-chair/2195348.html?lang=en_US

[potent fossil]

$2,000 for a fucking chair

[twin lagoon]

you make such a good point here

it's also a business expense AND tax writeoff simple

think about it

while at it, get yourself a new macbook pro with m1 max

[potent fossil]

Except I am not a business I am student Michal

[twin lagoon]

your point is

[radiant oriole]

Legitimately thought about getting an aeron for the writeoff

[potent fossil]

[twin lagoon]

to top it all off

get yourself a brand new tesla model s

[radiant oriole]

That I think you would have a touch more difficulty getting away with in an audit

[brave radish]

Nah, get some Apple gift cards https://www.macrumors.com/2021/12/02/tsmc-reportedly-testing-3nm-chip-production/

[twin lagoon]

m2 chips

or m3 whatever

[spiral robin]

m1 pro

[golden gust]

I mean, when you think about it, it's simple really

We kill the Michael

[twin lagoon]

cat go shit on your bed

[golden gust]

already did that before I woke up

[foggy veldt]

I sat in a herman Miller office chair once and understood the price tag

I wouldn’t buy one for myself but I understand why people buy them

[golden gust]

I mean, when you consider how much you're gonna spend in that thing

and especially if it's a place where you work, like, damned worth it

especially if it lasts, I find that most of the cheapo chairs cost a 20th of that last only a year or so before the piston dies or some shit

[magic river]

Shit the real rip off is the $300-800 chairs, if anything

[golden gust]

I got the same chair as my grandfather got for the office years ago, that chair lasted a good few years, mine lasted what, sub 2 years?

[magic river]

You think you're paying for quality but you're really paying for it to look better but still fall apart about as fast as a $100 one

Well, okay, some of the $500+ ones are more barebones looking chairs built to last

If it has a ton of features it'd better be $1000+ though otherwise just get the $100-200 one

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, these days buying shit which lasts is almost a joke

[magic river]

Gotta get the ones sold to businesses, those are meant to last at least 5 years while not being particularly well cared for

They're also $600 for a low backed chair that looks like it should be $70

[golden gust]

I think that the big hurdle is figuring out that paying a chunk more is better than paying every year or two

[sleek brook]

I spent £400 on my classic refurbished herman miller 💀

[golden gust]

I remember that joy coming from a council house estate

Everything we bought was cheapo crap, and like, if we'd of spent a bit more on stuff, we'd of probs spent much less in the long run

[magic river]

Oh yeah, $20/year for cheap shoes or $200 for shoes that will last your whole life kind of thing

But you never have $200 all at once so... cheap stuff it is

[golden gust]

yup, joys of life

[magic river]

I think that shoe analogy is a bit outdated, pretty sure that's from like the 50s 😄

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, i pretty much always wear through the soles of my shoes anyways

yay for walking (when health and safety regulations stipulate)

[spare venture]

i treat office chairs like i do beds, don’t cheap out if it’s something you sit in or lay down on for long periods of time

[golden gust]

It's one of those things which people like, think they can cheap out on

[spare venture]

you’ll be paying the difference in the end, probably more.

[magic river]

I thought I didn't cheap out on my bed, even paid extra to get the longer version so I would fit on it

[golden gust]

but, if you're spending a substantial amount of time in it, like, don't be dumb, look after yourself

[magic river]

After 2 years I think I need a new bed

Well, if I sleep in the very middle it's still mostly alright but I usually sleep more toward one side or the other (like if you had 2 people in bed) and those spots are all worn down

Then again I'm pretty fat so...

[golden gust]

god, I was fat, and then my health went poop, but, I started walking again, and then lockdown happened while I was living with somebody who was immunocompromised, so, now I got moobs and might need a bra soon

[magic river]

I'm 2m and I think around 135kg right now, pretty sure I should be around 100

[potent fossil]

wtf, expressvpn sent out a "Your order is not complete" email, but it appears to be a campaign and not a legitimate "order failure" email

[golden gust]

Yea?

[potent fossil]

have never used them before either

[golden gust]

That just sounds like the typical "HEy, you looked at us, come back!!!!" marketeering wank

[hidden garnet]

Does anyone know what they used to make their website?

[potent fossil]

well it's annoying

[potent fossil]

...who?

[hidden garnet]

PaperMC

[golden gust]

It's literally open source...

[potent fossil]

https://github.com/PaperMC/papermc.io

[spare venture]

no one knows man

some say it just appeared one day

[potent fossil]

it's like, some dumb hacked together js stuff with twig templating

[golden gust]

Hey

It was either that or we got mini to design a site

[potent fossil]

oh okay yeah that would've been bad

[magic river]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hulu-hulu-original-moone-boy-l0HlBO7eyXzSZkJri

[spare venture]

well it can’t be bad if it never comes out!

[potent fossil]

do NOT bully mini

that's my job

[spare venture]

fine

[vestal jasper]

yeah let's bully simple instead

[spare venture]

agreed

[potent fossil]

that's fine

[spare venture]

pimple

[vestal jasper]

tbh i'd rather bully city but he's not here

[spare venture]

that’s too easy

[potent fossil]

somehow got 119/120 points for my physics lab over the semester

missed 2 labs, one for my grandpa's out of state funeral and one cause my brother gave me covid, but i aced the makeup lab and replaced one of the 0s and one of the 0s got dropped for some reason, think the whole class got that benefit

and yet, still got the highest lab score of the entire class

ggz

?

[lean kiln]

take gifs to #gifs-and-memes

[potent fossil]

Oh hello Brian

[austere ivy]

typing a witty response to your ping hold on please

[austere ivy]

didn’t need to be reminded of this, thanks. actually, no thanks. frick you

wait crud wrong reply

ahem

[potent fossil]

Gotcha well I will remind you again in about 6 months

[austere ivy]

didn’t need to be reminded of this, thanks. actually, no thanks. frick you

damn it. i can’t escape

[austere ivy]

hi :D

[magic river]

So I learned the hard way today Windows does not support having more than one bluetooth adapter, at all

And if you disable one so the other will work the associations don't move over

But you also can't remove them

Ended up rebooting half a dozen times before I finally booted with just the built in one connected, removed everything and disabled it, then rebooted to a system with no bluetooth support before reconnecting the new USB dongle

[golden gust]

Isn't windows amazing?

I mean, to be fair, I've literally never had a device which has given me a headache free experience when it comes to bluetooth

The way windows associates data is a PITA

[potent fossil]

but did you die?

[golden gust]

not yet

[potent fossil]

was on amazon looking for some christmas gifts and http://paper.owo.foundation/A7obK7q.png

gonna send it to cat on next bday

[golden gust]

I tried walking into the light, but, I can't see properly in one eye and walked into a door

[potent fossil]

gg

[half hawk]

windows 2000 theme for windows 10 when

[vestal jasper]

oh yay youtube removed some options for "stop suggesting this video"

it's now down to "i've seen it" and "i don't want to see it" no elaboration on why I don't want to :D

[chrome cosmos]

lmao

[potent fossil]

I've never had an option to elaborate

Either you were in an A/B test or I was

Actually no, we both were then

[vestal jasper]

I remember an option being "Don't suggest videos from this channel"

oh

they moved that out

[chrome cosmos]

god tier button

sad

used it soooooo much

[vestal jasper]

Nah it's still there

Just 1 menu out

[chrome cosmos]

ohhh

[vestal jasper]

My main concern was being able to hide videos without affecting how and which ones are suggested to me

I can be disinterested in a video but not the channel which uploaded it

[foggy silo]

What is the difference between developers / maintainers / triage? I don’t rly understand the terminology, so I’d appreciate if a little explanation could be given x)

[magic river]

triage work on bug reports, trying to get all the needed information and such for them

I don't remember if maintainers is people with commit access or people who can approve PRs

[golden gust]

I believe maintainer has commit access

dev team is people we don't trust yet

glares at MM

[foggy silo]

Ah so developer is basically maintainer but without direct commit access?

[golden gust]

iirc, yea

I mean, all the ranks confuse me too

am still stuck in the part where am kinda stumped that we're that much larger than just a core team and a single IRC channel

[lean kiln]

both

[golden gust]

and THEN

theres our internal channel names...

[magic river]

Can't MM still merge stuff?

[lean kiln]

dev team can merge approved prs

*approved by maintainer or core team

[magic river]

Oh, but he needs a maintainer to approve it, he can only click the button?

[golden gust]

Yea

[magic river]

That's kind of pointless, no?

[golden gust]

onboarding, more or less

Like, a part of it was we just wanted a group of people more concerned with rebasing and merging stuff

It turns out

Our build system is such an ass, everybody burns out dealing with it

[lean kiln]

it's not really useless imo

it allows core or maintainers to approve something in general for dev team to look further into

and then merge without needing to get approval again

[foggy silo]

And can contributors approve?

[lean kiln]

sure but it doesn't mean anything twoards merge

github doesn't let you restrict who can approve/review, sadly (or even mark spammers)

[magic river]

Oh, developers can push to PR branches?

[lean kiln]

yes

[magic river]

So they can do rebasing or any cleanups that the original dev disappeared on that tend to leave PRs sitting in the queue for years

[lean kiln]

mhm

[golden gust]

Contrib is just people we see & remember contributing often

[lean kiln]

difference between maintainer and core team is having all the passwords

[magic river]

No table is the role they created so I could have a cool colored name 😛

[foggy silo]

Ahh that makes sense

I was just curious how the different roles had impacts on the repository.

Thanks y’all

[quick pasture]

they made me pay for a colored name smh. ||no jk love to support ||

[golden gust]

slowly lowers the gun pointing towards franks head

nothing to see here

[quick pasture]

||they made me say the above too||

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfsSAsM_MxY

[foggy silo]

Cat how large is this database of relevant videos

[coarse lily]

At least one

[golden gust]

I don't have a database

I just have a mild case of largely undiagnosed autism

But, I mean, I just saw that in my twitter feed

and, like, Mitski is ❤️

[quick pasture]

12h ago

[half hawk]

dude that is a superb little dog, where did you find it

i excel at googling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6pCytV_7iY

this is great

[quick pasture]

dancey boi

[half hawk]

thank you, this dancey boi made me happy

boi this fucking dog really fixed my mood

ive been looking at it for the past 15 minutes

[half hawk]

very good post

[half hawk]

yep that was today's entire serotonin tank

half an hour of dog

good

very good

[unkempt drift]

I will ping you

[golden gust]

❤️

[limber knot]

.catlove

.commands

https://korobi.vq.lc/network/esper/channel/paper/commands/

[unkempt drift]

.ban cat

[void void]

^^^ i second this

[meager tusk]

You don't second shit.

Cat's the best.

Don't ban Cat.

[untold copper]

what the fuck is this

when did this happen

[void void]

That is awful lmao

What were they thinking

[untold copper]

idfk

[marble lark]

holy shit the C++ exam i had today is the literal embodiment of the meme where completely unrelated stuff not in the syllabus is in the exam

like half the topics weren't even covered by my lecturer

[vernal moth]

Am still in love

Look at all these buttons and lights!

[viscid wedge]

so many knobs

[limber knot]

mmmm knobs

[untold copper]

naomi is a knob

[limber knot]

no

im more like a slider

anyway i've been awake for like 15 minutes and my day is already garbage

[potent fossil]

turn that frown upside down

[limber knot]

i had to get ready in 5 minutes and then cycle for my life to get on the bus

didnt have time to eat breakfast and im pretty sure i forgot my lunch

[potent fossil]

naomi got naenaed by the clock

[limber knot]

no i got naenaed by myself

[left swift]

by the c

o

[limber knot]

b

i have just confirmed i did put my lunch box on my bag

big relief

[marble lark]

:(

):

[vernal moth]

No am in my kitchen 🤣

This was at music store professional, the biggest music store in Europe that is right across the Rhine for me

[marble lark]

ello Mini

nice setup

[vernal moth]

I wanted people to stop me but literally every single one encouraged me, lmao

Even my fucking mom was like, your coworkers buy fucking Teslas, why shouldn't you buy a stupidly expensive piano?!

[plucky sparrow]

Did you get it fixed

[vernal moth]

Music store is that, but 5 floors

[limber knot]

have you ever looked into additive synthesis btw felenov

[vernal moth]

I wanna say I tried

But getting anything nice out of that requires an electrical engineering degree 😂 😂

[limber knot]

nah

[vernal moth]

Nah they havent opened yet, gonna drive over after work in a few hours

[limber knot]

just requires knowledge of "where does this control voltage go"

[vernal moth]

And what does this module do and why the fuck does it ruin my beautiful waves

Like I feel like everything I do eventually ends in white noise 😂

Like, it took me a weekend to understand the nobs on my piano, and that only has a sample synth, not a real one 😂

That looks like a 32/70 interface and thus gives me nightmares

I just read that we deleted 8 million lines of cobol code this year 😂

[limber knot]

this is literally how BMS works

[potent fossil]

MusicMC

[south matrix]

http://adventurecomponents.com/
good work on the site guys! looks good

[void void]

I hope they finish those coming soon pages!

[south matrix]

i particularly enjoy the 10 extra empty pages when you scroll down

[potent fossil]

it has an absolutely fuck load of backlinks to random steadywebs sites which is why there is so much empty space

they set visibility:hidden but not display:none lol

that is sus

http://paper.owo.foundation/AHy27DT.png

[south matrix]

Hoxton Whores Friday Saturday Love, huh?

[potent fossil]

Very odd

[south matrix]

better check it out!

[potent fossil]

have fun with that

ima go to bed

3 finals tomorrow

need to get at least an F on my physics one (not a meme, and im actually going to have to try to get an F, shits difficult lmfao)

[south matrix]

site doesn't even exist anymore

[potent fossil]

yea seems a lil ancient

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/UqhgYn6.png

lmao

[potent fossil]

Wonderful

When did that happen

[south matrix]

october 3rd of last year

[cosmic raft]

today @potent fossil

i got the email

the breach itself idk

didn#t read

[void void]

Seems to be only emails and (user)names

[potent fossil]

sweet

[limber knot]

so no biggie

tune your spam filters

[vernal moth]

There is no breach

[south matrix]

only in your mind

[vernal moth]

Somebody figured a iteration attack, got all hashes and cracked them to get all emails on gravatar

But like, that's generally public info

[potent fossil]

yup, idc if its just emails

and names, whatever

[limber knot]

feeling like shit so going home after 2 hrs

weeeeee