general

[hasty jay]

As Amaranth mentioned, #paper-help would be best place to ask... and I meant Paper itself, not plugin for Paper... :)

[untold copper]

day #175 of trying to get abs (yesterday): no exercise.
day #176 of trying to get abs (today): Did 50 mins of strength and conditioning. also i failed my exam. also idk zone minutes because my watch straps are not here yet >:(

[wispy blade]

kek

rip exam fail

[hexed dragon]

https://youtu.be/KkGf0h9N55w

[pale robin]

prerelease

[jaunty kayak]

Did anyone know any mod or texter pack which can translate other languages to English... I mean not only chat .... holograms, signs, pictures... or closely like that

[plucky sparrow]

oh wait mc 1.18 released today right

[warm anchor]

No

You dreaming

[plucky sparrow]

oh yes definitely

[warm anchor]

@hot hamlet

[hexed dragon]

It will be releasing later.

[hot hamlet]

[meager tusk]

Yo.

[plucky sparrow]

wow

so exciting

[hot hamlet]

Can't wait to use the spigot release on a prod server cause I promised the 3rd of December reset

[warm anchor]

Bumble moment

[worn ember]

just turn off the server till the release

ezz

[hot hamlet]

[warm anchor]

[hot hamlet]

[vernal moth]

Why don't you use paper instead?

[worn ember]

am i the only one that thinks they might have overdone the cave generation a bit? It looks like theres just giant gaping holes in the surface now

[limber knot]

updating production to unstable software 😅

[plucky sparrow]

i did notice that

[worn ember]

not the good kind of gaping holes

[plucky sparrow]

you just find humongous holes all of a sudden

[vernal moth]

Having a test env is a luxury, never forgot that

[plucky sparrow]

which is cool but you can find them very close to each other

[limber knot]

I just don't get why server owners/admins hate their players and want them to suffer lmao

(and by extension want themself to suffer)

[quasi valley]

[vernal moth]

Hey, if they wanna play guinea pigs for the rest of servers, more power to them

[fiery orbit]

My test env is a smaller scale production server where it doesn’t matter if things are little bit broken!

[warm anchor]

@hot hamlet be my Guinea pig

[limber knot]

it's just really dishonest towards your players if you don't have their best interest in mind

[vernal moth]

But players want the new world gen

[limber knot]

players also don't want a server that crashes, corrupts the world and looses items

[hot hamlet]

You called?

[limber knot]

and it's an owner's/admin's job to ensure that

[vernal moth]

Some settle for good enough

[hot hamlet]

Well that won't happen

[worn ember]

hmm i didnt know the bedrock seed was the same for every map, interesting

[minor badge]

thank you phoenix, spokesman of minecraft players

[worn ember]

what about 2tps

[hot hamlet]

Players want updates asap

[limber knot]

no they don't

they want "stable updates"

[worn ember]

oh yes they do

[limber knot]

big difference

[hot hamlet]

Bad take

[limber knot]

it makes zero sense to try to play new content on a server that either crashes or just randomly looses your progress

[worn ember]

well the thing is, fast and stable dont go together

[vernal moth]

Maybe, just maybe, different players want different things

Maybe that's why we have so many different servers :0

[cedar spade]

"here's an experimental server that might die and we'll probably wipe" "WHY DID I LOSE MY ITEMS???"

[waxen panther]

pheonix moment

[limber knot]

yeah, there are good servers and shitty servers

runs

[plucky sparrow]

is that really a shrek movie in your banner

LOL

[warm anchor]

Bumble just want to be praised by his players.

[hot hamlet]

My player's understand the technical impacts

[twin lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/headbanging-cat-headbang-cat-metal-cat-heavy-metal-cat-gif-21213763

[quasi valley]

SO TRUE

[worn ember]

so many different same faction servers???

[cedar spade]

me when

[limber knot]

[hot hamlet]

[waxen panther]

*runs* hahahah so funny lol epic

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

no hent*i in chat

[hot hamlet]

Xd

[plucky sparrow]

size limit only right

[warm anchor]

It’s hard work and dedication

[hot hamlet]

Cause a discord update adding animated profile banners made a joke about adding the entirety of shrek 2 compressed really really small

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

There is whole bee movie too

Lol

[hot hamlet]

So I took that as legal authority to do it xd

[worn ember]

someBODY once told me the world was gonna roll me

[hot hamlet]

[warm anchor]

Lol

[worn ember]

imagine pirating movies like that

[hot hamlet]

Bruh the bee movie one isn't even that sped up

[minor badge]

damn imagine having to speed up the bee movie

[limber knot]

that's literally the resolution that pirated movies had in 2005 👀

[worn ember]

maybe your pirated movies 👀

[twin lagoon]

runs

[hot hamlet]

Bruh

[limber knot]

filmed with a shitty cam corder in russian theaters with russian subtitles

[plucky sparrow]

LOL

things have not changed

[waxen panther]

paper general extremely cringe currently

[limber knot]

sweats in omicron

[waxen panther]

[limber knot]

(also it's still not hard to get releases in good quality, you just need to know where to look 👀 )

[twin lagoon]

what do you think of vaccinations phoenix

[limber knot]

I like shots!

Already on my 10th!

[plucky sparrow]

he’s really just a robot

[hot hamlet]

He took the johnson vaccine

[limber knot]

I mean, all the theatrical releases are digital anyways...

[minor badge]

?ban @thick hedge Discord TOS violation: promiting illegal activity

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned CenterLoper#0609 (Discord TOS violation: promiting illegal activity) [1 total infraction] -- Proximyst#6900.

[twin lagoon]

is the covid vaccine AGPL

[waxen panther]

mari is so hot

[hot hamlet]

Wat

[limber knot]

technically my taxes funded the BioNTech vaccine soo....

I kinda own it? 👀

[twin lagoon]

love taxes

[waxen panther]

https://tenor.com/view/actually-nerd-fat-bastard-gif-12320222

[twin lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/tweakin-gif-22987107

[worn ember]

i just got my tax letter in the mail today

its been the same as every year, 0€

[wide chasm]

Why do you only get that now? Doesn't that stuff generally happen in the first half of the year?

[warm anchor]

Wait you guys get tax letter???

[wide chasm]

A final one, yes

[hot hamlet]

Imagine having to do taxes yourself lul

[warm anchor]

We file our tax ourselves here in American land

[minor badge]

That happens in March or so for Sweden and Norway as well 🤔

[wide chasm]

We also file it ourselves, they just send a letter afterwards telling you how much you get/paid

[warm anchor]

Ohhhh

[hot hamlet]

It's automatic by our employer in the UK

[limber knot]

making money smh

[twin lagoon]

it's mostly automated here aswell

[minor badge]

Employers file them for us here Trading, crypto, etc. needs to be filed manually, however

[hot hamlet]

Never need to touch taxes

[wide chasm]

Yes, it's also automatically deducted by your employer here

[warm anchor]

employer
But bumble you are neet

[hot hamlet]

What Is neet

O.o

[wide chasm]

Everything the government already knows is filled in for you, you just have to check to make sure it's all correct and make any changes if necessary

[minor badge]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=neet @hot hamlet

[hot hamlet]

Bruv

[warm anchor]

[limber knot]

self employment ftw baby!

easy way to get around being unemployed

[wide chasm]

Maybe I'll get money back again from the government this year

I love free money

[limber knot]

isn't all money free? Like I never paid to get money

[wide chasm]

If you're employed you pay them with your time and effort

So I wouldn't count that as free 🙂

[limber knot]

maybe you do

[wide chasm]

Well, you could also pretend to do something

[warm anchor]

Technically if government pays you at the end of season, doesn’t it mean they overtax you during the year? So it’s not free money!

[wide chasm]

No, it's because I earn too little, so I get money from them

[warm anchor]

Hmmm

[wide chasm]

They can't overtax, because the tax was 0%

[warm anchor]

That’s nice

[wide chasm]

Well, tax was 0% last year at least

Now that I have multiple employers that's not the case anymore

[vernal moth]

I just kindly ask the gov for taxes back on some purchases I did during the year

Like, surely my new headphones and monitors are used at work so I shouldn't pay taxes on that

Sometimes they agree, sometimes they don't

Plus I can get tax back for donations

[warm anchor]

Never hurt to try

[vernal moth]

So I always get a couple hundred euro, enough for a nice vacation most of the time

[wide chasm]

I wanted to try get money for the five dollars I donated to Apache last year, but that wasn't allowed

Not that I'd get anything for those five dollars anyway, but still

[limber knot]

I never get money back but I don't pay taxes either so I guess that's a win already ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vernal moth]

Haha I wish I wouldn't pay taxes

I would be rich

I pay like 39%

[warm anchor]

You can

[limber knot]

well, you are either poor or rich if you don't pay lol

[warm anchor]

You are just not rich enough to not pay tax yet!

[vernal moth]

Am in the highest tax bracket so it doesn't get worse anymore

So that's good

[limber knot]

just give the money directly to me Mini instead of via your taxes 👀

[vernal moth]

It's just sad that a random 24 year old can be in the highest tax bracket and all the managers and shit that earn way more than me don't have higher tax rates

[limber knot]

yeah

[vernal moth]

Like, I don't mind paying taxes

[limber knot]

and the new government is not going to do shit about it

[wide chasm]

39% is the highest tax bracket? It starts at 34% here

[vernal moth]

I mind that others don't pay more 😂

It's complicated stef

[wide chasm]

Highest tax bracket is 52% here

[serene orbit]

I don't mind paying taxes, I just wish everyone got taxed fairly

[vernal moth]

Haha, 42%

It's such a meme

[limber knot]

I will probably vote against the new coalition agree just because some of the stuff is just too much "shit that the neoliberals say" 😅

*agreement

[vernal moth]

45% if you over a quarter of a million but that's a bit different that's why I said am in highest

[limber knot]

should be 100% tax for the 0.1%

runs

[vernal moth]

Absolutely not

But this is getting political

Let's stop

[wide chasm]

A quarter million? Here the highest starts from 68k

[limber knot]

I mean they already pay no taxes so it wouldn't make a difference I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hot hamlet]

Lol

[vernal moth]

That's not true but whatever

[limber knot]

(ik, it's for the meme :P)

[vernal moth]

Technically it's a different tax, highest tax bracket is 57k here

[hot hamlet]

MiniDigger is the 0.1% it seems smh

[vernal moth]

The 274k is different

[wide chasm]

So, when can I move to Germany?

[limber knot]

after covid

👀

[vernal moth]

When the whole twitch thing leaked I actually looked into that, am top 10%

Which is so stupid

[wide chasm]

After we've gone through the entire Greek alphabet I'll come your way

[vernal moth]

Xi is still free, they skipped that

I can't think of a reason why

[void void]

top 10% twitch streamers?

[vernal moth]

😂

[vernal moth]

No, top 10% income in Germany

[limber knot]

they also skipped Nu, Nintendo should take note

[wide chasm]

I didn't even know we already had gone through so many letters that we ended up in omicron

[limber knot]

they just stopped reporting on variants because it were too many

also afaik most just weren't that different or something like that

[wide chasm]

We should be careful giving each small variation a new letter, otherwise we'll run out of letters /s

[vernal moth]

They all were shit

So you didn't had to care

[warm anchor]

It’s gonna be Chinese character in 2025. It will take a while to run out

[wide chasm]

Should've just started at \0 and then go through the entirety of Unicode

[warm anchor]

At this point I don’t see why not

[wide chasm]

"A new variant named U+1629 has appeared in South America"

Apparently that is ᘩ

[worn ember]

i got a meme for this

[oblique hare]

Lmao

[void void]

Start at 0020 so you don't have all the control characters :)

[worn ember]

stef likes control

[wide chasm]

I love control, that's why I have this red name

[limber knot]

can't wait for Corono 💩

[wide chasm]

Also, let's see how many software breaks for the first 32 or so variants 😉

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

im just waiting for them to remove summer time

or was it winter time

[void void]

I mean, does it really matter which one you remove?

[limber knot]

yes, do you want it to be dark when you go to work or dark when you come from work?

if I could vote I would say UTC for all of EU but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm anchor]

Pheonix makes the fatal mistake of thinking Noah has work

[wide chasm]

I don't think people in East Europe would like that

[warm anchor]

We should go back to caveman

[limber knot]

east europe doesn't matter economically

[warm anchor]

If dark outside = sleep

If light = activities

[void void]

:(

[limber knot]

the deciding countries will be France and Germany anyways like in all EU matters ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wide chasm]

Or just don't have one unified time for the entire EU

Just let countries pick which one they prefer

[limber knot]

yeah no

[warm anchor]

It should be based on geo location not country line I agree

[limber knot]

that works if a country isn't right next to it but letting france pick summer time and germany winter time would just be stupid af

but I agree: spain should have the same time zone as portugal lol

[warm anchor]

Coz even in the US the difference is huge depend on how east or west you live in SAME timezone

[limber knot]

an france and germany should have the same as the UK

[wide chasm]

Considering some countries have multiple time zones, I don't think two different countries having two different time zones is a big issue

[limber knot]

the current time zone is actually centered on the east border of germany but extends all the way up to spain

[warm anchor]

Plus everything is digital nowaday. It won’t be that confusing tbf

[limber knot]

the Federated Eurpoean Union wont be multiple countries though ;)

[warm anchor]

When I drive cross state line my watch automatically adjust time for me 😉

[wide chasm]

If we're gonna switch, it'll be annoying for a bit since automated stuff needs to be updated, but after that it should all be fine

[topaz river]

How do you view all the articles on the Minecraft website?

[limber knot]

time zone databases should be autoupdated on most systems though

[topaz river]

Like all the blog posts

[limber knot]

also time servers are a thing

I don't think you can on their new shitty website?

[wide chasm]

Yes, after those are updated most stuff should work correctly

[topaz river]

Ah.. I can't seem to figure out how. The website is very shitty indeed

[magic river]

I only find blog posts on their website via people linking them in here

I couldn't figure out how to get a list

[wide chasm]

That website is an overview of how not to do UI/UX

[limber knot]

it used to be great until they did the MS/Bedrock merge on their site

[topaz river]

Yeah me neither..

[limber knot]

then it was shit

[topaz river]

I just wanted to see if there was a blog post that triggered this not on geysers discord

[wide chasm]

I think if you scroll all the way down on the main page then you can keep clicking "Load more" for more posts

The animations look broken, but other than that it seems to show them all

[topaz river]

Huh. Well I don't even see a load more button on mobile

[elfin steppe]

a bit of a dum question but what’s stopping paper from hard forking spigot?

[limber knot]

nothing

runs

[quasi valley]

drafting new API so the effort of updating to new versions ourselves is worth the trouble

[olive marlin]

Hangar wen?

[quasi valley]

and that

[worn ember]

thats what we have kneny for, to do all the work

[full rune]

if you want the snapshot articles, https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/360002267532-Snapshot-Information-and-Changelogs

[void void]

knenwald, are you straming today?

streaming*

[ancient bolt]

What's there to stream

[quasi valley]

ofc

[void void]

I dunno, he wanted to get to twitch affiliate

He'll find something to do

[quasi valley]

I already have Affiliate, got it yesterday

[void void]

oh really?

[worn ember]

stream some factions pvp

[void void]

Why was the politics channel archived 😦

[worn ember]

scroll through it and find out

[mental meadow]

#announcements covers it

[limber knot]

because politics suck ass

[mental meadow]

#announcements message

[wide chasm]

Nobody agreed with my opinion, so we had to archive it /s

[void void]

👀

[mossy vessel]

Kenni what do I get if I subscribe?

[quasi valley]

No OnlyFans content, that's for sure

[mossy vessel]

I meant on Twitch, smh

[void void]

nvm then

[quasi valley]

[vernal moth]

Saying appeared is missleading, that makes it pretty easy to jump to "those dum Africans did breed out a new variant again" when in fact they just have the best medical infra to detect such viruses and sequence them, thanks to decades of battles with aids and other stuff, so they just the first to find it, but then it gets found quickly elsewhere too after people know what to look for

[void void]

Sad

I liked the discussions we had

People here are very educated and civil

[limber knot]

yeah, I'm pretty sure we had it in Germany for a couple of weeks now

[wide chasm]

I said South America though

[vernal moth]

Lmao

It's been a though day

[hexed dragon]

It was added to the bug tracker right now.

[mental meadow]

to much memmes?

[vernal moth]

That's still the highlight of me week

[worn ember]

that thought literally never occurred my mind till you mentioned it

[slender citrus]

happy release day boys

[vernal moth]

(for others, my company is deeply invested into TikTok ads now, the woman present what they have done in the last sprint couldn't even pronounce meme properly)

[wide chasm]

lol

It really has been tough

[plucky sparrow]

how do u pronounce meme

isn’t it meem

[vernal moth]

Yeah sadly stuff like that isn't covered by many, it's easier to showcase old racist believes instead of admitting they are just freaking good at what they do

[mental meadow]

memé obvs

[void void]

may may

[plucky sparrow]

what the fuck

cries

no way anyone would pronounce it like that 😭

[cloud moat]

r/me_irl

[plucky sparrow]

thank god

[worn ember]

i meant the racist part

[vernal moth]

Oh

Well, lucky you

[worn ember]

i know that they have good institutions, they made that pretty clear in the news coverage here

[vernal moth]

Sadly I have people around me that think that way

Bedrock update is rolling out

So I would expect java soon

I guess it's time to go home

[worn ember]

well often people associate (south-)africa with poor and uneducated, but yeah thats not true in most of south africa

[spiral robin]

[mossy vessel]

I associate ded as undeducated and poor, and I assume that is true

[spiral robin]

Hello NMF

[worn ember]

thats not very nice

but true

[mossy vessel]

Good morning aber

[mild rune]

Morning gamers

[worn ember]

i do consider myself smarter than most americans, not that that is a high bar

[warm anchor]

???

[worn ember]

they literally made an orange president but thats all im saying on that topic

[plucky sparrow]

he is implying Americans are very very dumb

[vernal moth]

But murica is the leader of the free world!!!!

[void void]

AT LEAST WE HAVE FREEDOM!!! 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/1oyKVAjISmI

watch this then lul

[vernal moth]

Lmao, I get board members sliding in my inbox gratulating me on a launch of a new project tomorrow, time to gtfo

The state of the project is miserable but it's replacing a website from 2008 so I look like superman

[limber knot]

lol

[void void]

“So statically, in the Land of the Free, you have the least amount of free people”

lol

[vernal moth]

https://partner.gothaer.de

Look at this shit show

[mental meadow]

fuck

is that creepy

[limber knot]

why does the video have such a bad quality?

[mental meadow]

kill it with fire

[void void]

are you launching this tomorrow?

[vernal moth]

It's replacing https://makler.gothaer.de

[mental meadow]

please

remove that video

[vernal moth]

It's not my problem

[void void]

add some margin to this please

[vernal moth]

It's content, not my department

[limber knot]

left aligned websites ♥

[ancient bolt]

That's style though

[vernal moth]

That's something a different team did Noah

Also not my problem

[limber knot]

oh god, I just noticed the menu points.

[mental meadow]

also I'm pretty sure you're violating the branding guidelines of youtube, facebook, twitter and whatever the empty one in the middle is 😂

[vernal moth]

The social icons in the footer are just selected wrong in CMS too

Half the links are broken

[limber knot]

"SACH LEBEN KRANKEN", only one missing is "TOTE"

[vernal moth]

Kranken isn't even the right term

It has been called gesund for years

[limber knot]

that's my point

[mild rune]

why does that website only use half my window

[vernal moth]

The old one is from 2008

Or 13

I don't remember

The new site uses design from 2018

[wide chasm]

Mini already got the congratulations, so his job is done

[limber knot]

they probably thought "Sachversicherung", "Lebensversicherung", "Krankenversicherung", just remove the "versicherung"

[vernal moth]

Yeah am getting the fuck out

[mild rune]

I don't blame you

[vernal moth]

Well it's not targed at end users phoenix

But everything about this project is so scuffed

Only thing am proud of is the new visibility stuff I added, I can change content on page based on cohorts I can place you into

[limber knot]

this is almost unreadable https://is.papr.best/gi9LMI31.png LUL

did anyone even UI/UX test this?

[vernal moth]

Hahahahah

Tho that normally has a blur, guess it doesn't work for the news stuff

https://www.gothaer.de is slightly better

Ok desktop at least

[limber knot]

yeah

the blur is blue part seems to be part of the image though

[vernal moth]

No

[limber knot]

and the video doesn't have it 👀

[vernal moth]

The blur is added in css pretty sure

Maybe it's not there for videos

[limber knot]

[vernal moth]

I hacked the video in last week

A coworker is fixing style right now so maybe he will fix that

Only reason it's release tomorrow is so that the product owner can get his bonus

[limber knot]

nice video URL "dummycontent" 👀

[vernal moth]

That's literally it

[limber knot]

also mfw a .jpg is actually a webp

[proven echo]

When will paper 1.18 come

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[proven echo]

Ok

[limber knot]

well after 1.18 vanilla I would assume

[proven echo]

It lauched now right

[void void]

Did you not get the message? We're hardforking from mojang this release

[limber knot]

:thonkeng:

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-11-30_16-37-27.png

[crude belfry]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what does hardforking mean?

[void void]

Seperating ourselves from upstream (spigot), so Paper can update independently without having to wait for Spigot to release first

[magic river]

Watching this music video always just kind of feels wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIsH686xWl0

Or listening to the song while I'm bouncing between three screens

[crude belfry]

ah that makes more sense, thank you!

[mental meadow]

it's a harder fork made out of titanium instead of stainless steel like normal weak forks

[edgy agate]

hii i need some help with command sugguestions

[limber knot]

I thought this fork was made out of paper?

[magic river]

Hard fork will also be the end of compatibility between Spigot and Paper

[hasty jay]

yeah, it is eco :)

[void void]

I mean, paper plugins weren't always compatible with spigot

[magic river]

Sure, right now the compatibility is one-way but that would go away too

[wispy blade]

nothing shittier than watching your bus drive away

[magic river]

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish 😄

[limber knot]

uhm watching it not drive at all is pretty shitty too

[edgy agate]

would anyone help me configure my server

[mental meadow]

There are enough websites where you can hire someone to do that, this is not a marketplace

[crude belfry]

So paper plugins would stop working with spigot or is it the other way around?

[limber knot]

paper plugins already don't work with spigot

[crude belfry]

ah, i’ve never used specifically paper plugins lol i had no idea

[plucky sparrow]

I just let it go

[void void]

Paper already adds some new features that won't work with Spigot, ^. Hard forking would mean that paper finally gets to make breaking changes, which will probably break some (old) plugins

[plucky sparrow]

Even if I could just run and get there in time

It’s just too embarrassing

[edgy agate]

[hasty jay]

So hard forking would mean for paper just to stop updating upstream (and freeze on latest spigot) or to build on top of vanilla directly?

or on cb/b

[edgy agate]

i think i may need to just... delete everything and redo every config

[vernal moth]

stop giving a fuck about upstream

[waxen panther]

of course ?

[edgy agate]

is it okay to stop my server with ctrl+c

probably not right 👀

[plucky sparrow]

I thought they’d have it be free and then sell language specific features or smth like that

[mental meadow]

No

[wispy blade]

just type stop

[void void]

pressing it once should try to safely shut it down

if you spam it, it will kill it

[wide chasm]

Either approach can work, very likely on top of Vanilla directly, but I'm not in charge of that

[hasty jay]

ah also a way to say it... :D ok thanks

[wispy blade]

oh shit i just ate an entire bar of tony's

@void void help

[dire flint]

It’ll likely be like IDEA where there’s ᔑ community edition and an ultimate

[dire flint]

Gg

[plucky sparrow]

Oh that’s actually not bad

[void void]

oh no

[spiral robin]

@waxen panther

[dire flint]

At least that’s what I’m getting from “in line with our other products” since that’s what they have for their other software

[wide chasm]

Not all of them, though, so may also just be a paid version

[wispy blade]

even more jetbrains vscode

[wide chasm]

I personally don't really see a reason to use Fleet myself, though, I'd rather just use their IDEs

[wispy blade]

yeah

[vernal moth]

https://www.minecraft.net/de-de/article/caves---cliffs--part-ii-out-today-java

[hexed dragon]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/caves---cliffs--part-ii-out-today-java

[vernal moth]

there we go

[wispy blade]

LOL

timing

[hexed dragon]

mini beat me

[wispy blade]

IRC will tell

.logs

hmm

[plucky sparrow]

I’ll definitely replace VSCode for fleet

[fallen oracle]

Let's goooo

[wide chasm]

I don't use VSCode

[plucky sparrow]

For those languages not covered by a JetBrains IDE

or absolutely anything

[void void]

1.18 released!!!

you know right

[woven summit]

Background changed

[limber knot]

mfw telemetry was added back in 👀

[vernal moth]

thats good!

[wide chasm]

Already in some of the snapshots

[void void]

md5 😠

[woven summit]

The update is out on bedrock

[void void]

on java too

three minutes ago

[woven summit]

huh, i don't have it yet

only the background

[void void]

restart your launcher

[woven summit]

ok have it now

[limber knot]

https://i.moep.tv/gn9Ci8A0.png ;)

[dusk drift]

Now we wait

[ashen cliff]

Even MultiMC somehow did a speedrun today.

[woven summit]

Is it Java 17 for servers?

[vernal moth]

yes

[void void]

Doesnt versions got downloaded from mojang servers?

[woven summit]

Does anyone know where i can get OpenJDK 17 from?

[spiral robin]

Google ?

[woven summit]

can't find any downloads for it

[drowsy urchin]

https://aws.amazon.com/corretto/

[limber knot]

.java17

[void void]

AdoptOpenJDK

[limber knot]

:thonk

https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[pale robin]

anyone got a link for the vanilla jar

[limber knot]

AdoptOpenJDK doesn't exist anymore

[pale robin]

minecraft.net isnt updated yet

[limber knot]

it's Adoptium now

it's on the news post

[woven summit]

ah found it

thanks

[mental meadow]

kneny stream be like

[woven summit]

This version of java is so much better, it changes all the registry stuff for me!

[mossy vessel]

The first time I opened twitch in a while to do sth

[wide chasm]

Via already updated

gj kenny

[woven summit]

New default icon??

[limber knot]

no, that's a bug

[woven summit]

weird

[void void]

that's been a bug for a while iirc

[limber knot]

has been around for a while now

[ashen cliff]

1.18 (1) when?

[void void]

give them five minutes

[plucky sparrow]

Can’t wait for 1.18.10

[ashen cliff]

1.16 released.
<5 minutes later.>
1.16 released.
Yes again.

[magic mesa]

I've had it where the server icon turned into a creeper and sunflower texture

[plucky sparrow]

Be careful your server might blow up

[magic mesa]

Probably what caused it

[turbid shoal]

Should I put via on the proxy, or on the backend?

[wispy blade]

backend

[urban carbon]

what is the best anti-cheat?

[turbid shoal]

Probably Vulcan

[olive marlin]

Depends.

.ncp is good enough most of the time.

[limber knot]

https://github.com/Updated-NoCheatPlus/NoCheatPlus

[wispy blade]

you just gotta configure it

[left swift]

exciting day what's ban count at so far

[wispy blade]

didnt helveticatoast get banned yesterday? kek

[left swift]

wait rlly

[wispy blade]

yeah

[left swift]

[wispy blade]

for trolling too much

[pale summit]

LETS GO! Geyser has been updated to 1.18

[mild rune]

damn I missed helvetica getting banned

[wispy blade]

just scroll up

or search ig

[plucky sparrow]

you can find my grave

[left swift]

haha

[plucky sparrow]

.

[left swift]

nmf popping off

[foggy veldt]

(D , D) I just invented a new face I think

It can be like excited eyes or booba

[plucky sparrow]

bobba

bobba

[left swift]

pools closed

[plucky sparrow]

LOL

[mild rune]

bobba

[left swift]

experimental channel popping off

[foggy veldt]

TIL miniclip is owned by tencent

[plucky sparrow]

you're a bobba

[left swift]

fuck I dropped a tatertot

[foggy veldt]

Pick it up within 5 seconds, if no one is in the vicinity it’s safe to eat

[plucky sparrow]

5 seconds rule

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/8HTenjU.png

[mild rune]

Eat it after 5

[foggy veldt]

Just don’t update us on if you ate it or not cause then we will judge you

[mild rune]

Damn you teasing me

😳

[void void]

pogger

[left swift]

4

[foggy veldt]

Who needs a spawn area if you don’t go to spawn

[mild rune]

Only 1 pogger

[void void]

there will be multiple poggers when mini deploys the site

[foggy veldt]

I haven’t looked at changelog yet all I know is caves

[wispy blade]

hangar or paper

[plucky sparrow]

dos

[foggy veldt]

Did hangar get new ui yet

[void void]

both

[wispy blade]

no

i would do it but im not exactly a css wizard

[mild rune]

css is my sworn enemy

[plucky sparrow]

jda 5 first alpha uwu

[whole sun]

It'll be done when it's done. Be appreciative that people are working hard on it

I came to lurk for updates too, and you don't see me being pushy

[wraith cloud]

^

[whole sun]

Just be nice, ffs

[foggy veldt]

Rolled

[whole sun]

Lol my partner and I were thinking of a way to set up some pvp games on our server

[left swift]

kill count gotta be more than 20

[whole sun]

Think I'm gonna build an arena and trap it

[warm anchor]

where you. Time to grief!

[mortal spade]

where can i download paper 1.18?

oh thanks

[dawn pond]

found a bug

in 1.18

coal doesnt spawn in the new y level

cant someone

[warm anchor]

lol

[dawn pond]

test it

to make sure

[magic river]

Are you testing on rc3?

because rc4 was put out to fix that

[dawn pond]

rc4?

im testing out

the lastest version

on the launcher

1.18

[magic river]

The one linked in #❗-1-18 is rc3

[warm anchor]

use latest to join test server

[magic river]

Oh you mean single player?

[dawn pond]

yea

yea its broken

yea

i turned on xray and went around for 10 min

0 coal

below about y 6

maybe its just this seed idk

can someone test out

nah deep slate coal ore

should be there

[hexed dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrn4ouZRvQ I didn't even watch this yet.

[proud lance]

I found a bug with 1.18 as well, the bug is that it missing from the paper website to download

[dawn pond]

lol

u gotta wait for that

LOL

[proud lance]

its a bug

gotta report all the bugs

[ashen cliff]

Use the API.

[proud lance]

okay, new bug, its available on the api but not on the website

[ashen cliff]

The website is legit just a fancy API display.

[hexed dragon]

Takes long to reflect the API changes.

API better.

[ashen cliff]

Let me just do a quick daily reminder:

[magic river]

Huh, so aquafers aren't a replacement for the old "lake" feature, it's a separate thing

Instead of being a separate feature it seems to take a section of the existing terrain and just say "for this area the water level is Y" and fill it in

Although some of the examples seem to be just a bigger version of the lake feature

[limber knot]

[whole sun]

I mean

That's basically what a real aquifer is

[fiery orbit]

Just started sponsoring Paper on Github, who do I ping?

[whole sun]

Side note, "what's an aquifer?" "Well it's for aqua!"

[void void]

@mental meadow

[fiery orbit]

Thanks <3

[foggy veldt]

Added an “Allow Server Listings” option to opt out of having your name displayed in server listings is this referring to the shit when you hover the player count next to the motd?

[vernal moth]

thank you!

[void void]

yes

[glass talon]

anyone ever ran paper (or whatever) via a docker container ?

everything else on my server is dockerised

[mossy vessel]

Yes, that's a common practice

[hasty jay]

oh when speaking sponsors, can I get the role also please? :) I do support on OpenCollective

[glass talon]

didnt know if there was gonna be any gotchas for java in docker, good to know though i might trial it

[mossy vessel]

@mental meadow

[glass talon]

i assume on linux the docker container can still run away with the RAM etc, it isnt limited ?

[magic river]

containers can limit resource usage

That's the original purpose of cgroups, iirc

[ripe sphinx]

Round of applause for Kenny. He's updated ViaVer within 30m of MC release, and now Paper within 2h of MC release, which is insane.

[vernal moth]

both actually where done in 30 min

[lapis shale]

Hey guys, am I able to manually rename a region file to re-possition itself in the world?

[magic river]

I think it'll cause an error message saying a region is in the wrong place?

[lapis shale]

shux okay

[magic river]

Can't remember if regions know where they're supposed to be or not

I know there was a message like that for chunks back in the day, was a clear sign your world got corrupted

[lapis shale]

Any suggestions for copy/pasting large regions besides world edit schematics

and wanting to change its location

[warm anchor]

use MCA selector

[lapis shale]

is that like a new version of MCedit?

[warm anchor]

https://github.com/Querz/mcaselector

[lapis shale]

Oh interesting!!!!

[warm anchor]

this will do the trick for you

[lapis shale]

I had no idea

[warm anchor]

you need a beefy PC though

[lapis shale]

❤️

Im rocking a 2080 super laptop

[plucky sparrow]

is there any good c# book

[lapis shale]

im unstoppable

[warm anchor]

this give you ability to copy and paste

[lapis shale]

thank you Eter!

[warm anchor]

just like in excel sheet

[undone jungle]

I just want to say tyvm to the devs of papermc.

[left swift]

no problem

my moral support got them through this extremely troublesome time

[proud lance]

give them foot massages

[whole sun]

man, i just went and got the optifine preview version, but didn't pay attention

it was for 1.18 pre-release 1

and i couldn't figure out why it wouldn't install for like 10 full seconds

[lapis shale]

guys where is seed settings 😦

Its not in server properties

[warm anchor]

is level.seed= the only one missing?

[lapis shale]

Its the only thing I noticed so far

[void void]

level-seed* mojang removed it by default, you can add it and it'll work fine

[lapis shale]

ohh strange

Okay thank you 🙂

[warm anchor]

thanks for confirmaiton.

[lapis shale]

so its level-seed=

[warm anchor]

oh yeah my bad

[tardy dust]

when will be the probable estimate for the stable version of paper 1.18 to be ready?

[lapis shale]

🙂

[left swift]

this is why we're blaming eternity

[broken ibex]

that's life

[foggy veldt]

Yo eternity did you update your site? It looks nicer on mobile

[urban carbon]

what is the best plugin for custom enchants?

[foggy veldt]

I always recommend it when people ask for server advice i paper Chan number one fan

[left swift]

L simp

[foggy veldt]

[left swift]

the general chat so clean now that all the degens are distracted by a different chat

[foggy veldt]

Can’t shitpost in the 1.18 chat so I’ll stick to general

[void void]

anyones server just lagging badly on this update?

[spare venture]

probably they made the world much taller

[void void]

9gb ram and it crashed even on that

[vernal moth]

performance has been fine in our observations

[spare venture]

why would@it crash

[vernal moth]

we had a test server with 100 people earlier

[spare venture]

that’s super misleading to say

[void void]

I just have a vanilla java server, 4 of us loaded in and the ram topped out and crashed, before we got a lot of block lag

[spare venture]

i’d go to #paper-help and get that fixed

[waxen panther]

they're using vanilla

so no not paper-help, nothing to do with us

[void void]

I'd use paper but it seems pretty unstable atm??

[vernal moth]

its as unstable as spigot or vanilla generally

we just are up front about it

[spare venture]

he means he doesn’t have plugins or change anything from vanilla

[waxen panther]

sounds like they're using the mojang jar

[spare venture]

oh

[jovial plover]

I brought a game earlier
Pc can't run it

[void void]

so using paper is same risk as using the current 1.18? if so I'll use paper but I thought it was a high risk of corruption

[spare venture]

yea i guess so, i would assume people complaining and asking for help here would be running the software

yeah if you run 1.18 your server will be so corrupted your pc will catch on fire /s

you shouldn’t be running 1.18 on day one on a production server

[void void]

I run a server with a lot of people, trying to make sure we can play the new update is all

[vernal moth]

should do backups all the time if you run 1.18 now

[spare venture]

okay as they said by using 1.18 youre subjecting yourself to all of the possibly undiscovered bugs

[left swift]

u can't assume anything chad

stop it

[spare venture]

no u

[left swift]

[spare venture]

what tier sub are you@nowadays

[left swift]

tier 600

I only buy twitch turbo for no ads

[spare venture]

oh wow does that mean she says your name in a stream every now and then?

[left swift]

I'm tattood on her

[spare venture]

no way

[void void]

temporary tattoo?

[spare venture]

does it just say “sucker”?

[whole sun]

oh! i thought that cause y'all are forced to be a little bit behind vanilla that stability lagged behind vanilla as well

i misunderstood that

in that case, i'm updating my server!

thanks for all the effort y'all put in ❤️

[left swift]

it's just a squiggly line she says is my name

she says that to everyone

[whole sun]

i've got my backups ready anyways, i just didn't want to hassle with backing up and restoring often

[left swift]

but I believe it's my name

[vernal moth]

basically, if you want run 1.18 already, might as well just get paper

but you really should wait if you care about your server I guess

[cold ice]

yo

quick question

[left swift]

no

[cold ice]

how do i fix this

[golden gust]

update java.

[crystal lily]

https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[unreal pike]

i think im going back to essentials

this config is so long

[ripe sphinx]

wat

[left swift]

interesting

[unreal pike]

cmi 😦

[viscid wedge]

Happy National harass your server admin day

[vernal moth]

cmi is like essentials, but worse, right?

[plucky sparrow]

I’m decided, I will be learning Dart

[peak ginkgo]

yea

[peak ginkgo]

blessed language

i love dart

[plucky sparrow]

It’s very similar to java so it seems fine

[peak ginkgo]

you're gonna be VERY surprised.

[plucky sparrow]

Been taking a look at it’s documentation and I’m in love

[left swift]

dart more like fart

[unreal pike]

its like, there are many things that i like, but theres just too many things

i dont even know what 80% of the config is for

[robust parrot]

unfortunately cmi is required for any of zrips plugins

[unreal pike]

i guess it serves as a baseline replacement for many niche plugins that are probably outdated or dont exist

[unreal pike]

bottleexp requires cmi?

[left swift]

then dont use zrips plugins

[twin lagoon]

CMI

[cold ice]

https://tenor.com/view/broom-broom-horse-horse-broom-horse-the-movie-the-horse-movie-gif-21532663

[robust parrot]

that would be the solution if you were impatient to update or didn't want to use cmi, yes

[plucky sparrow]

not sure what ide should I use

rn I’m doing webstorm and Dart plugin

[robust parrot]

yes

[left swift]

nice

I have a life purpose now

[plucky sparrow]

wha

[left swift]

I guess this would qualify me as an environmental hero right?

[robust parrot]

well I should have been more clear...cmilib is required for the plugins.

[unreal pike]

oh

well many devs do that already

[robust parrot]

I get that. But if cmilib is incompatible with 1.18, none of their plugins will work yet. Unless it was just cmi and not cmilib

[whole sun]

well shit

[ripe sphinx]

After that incredible performance with the update, have more monies https://f.u11.io/X2v9ny

[void void]

[whole sun]

i used mcselector to delete some chunks outside a certain range in our 1.17.1 world and our stronghold was fine

but after the 1.18 update, it decided to delete itself anyways

[robust parrot]

have any of you experimented with deleting chunks to regenerate in 1.18?

[golden gust]

doesn't count if you use it to make cardboard socks

[worn ember]

who's

[left swift]

yours

[worn ember]

i can make 10 cups a day

[left swift]

ur such a hero

[worn ember]

i know

would you drink out of my own made mug?

[plucky sparrow]

no

[worn ember]

ur irrelevant anyway

[random tide]

Anyone have a link to the minecraft launcher download? I'm not doing the microsoft store bs

[plucky sparrow]

sorry I don’t think anyone would be interested in drinking from a cup made out of your male fluids

might be wrong though

[worn ember]

bruh you literally eat fruit grown out of bugshit

[random tide]

dawg what 🧐

[left swift]

dap just projecting their fantasies

[waxen panther]

was scrolled up ignore

[plucky sparrow]

wha

id never

[left swift]

@waxen panther

[trim steeple]

well hats off to the paper devs, It Just Works(TM)

[whole sun]

what a bunch of damn professionals

let's all increase our donations

[vernal moth]

thank you!

[coarse lily]

Paper team is the best.

[golden gust]

licks ocelotpotpie

[coarse lily]

Uhm.

Thank you?

[ripe sphinx]

🐱

[whole sun]

well this has been enjoyably awkward to witness

[golden gust]

Tiny.. little... focus you fak balls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3NWn7KJ1E

[coarse lily]

AvE is a weirdo.

But I like seeing the insides of stuff.

[golden gust]

AvE is bae

[coarse lily]

Some stuff is way overbuilt and some is garbo.

Definitely bought a few tools based off the findings in his videos

[golden gust]

Yea, I mean, am not a toolie these days but like, nice to see the innards of stuff and know what you're getting

Like, tools these days are seemingly priced at the point where you can buy a set of tools from one manf and get locked into one battery ecosystem so when your tool dies after the warranty period it's just easier to buy one of their drills again, or, wait

Hey, look, another a multi-set offer, and this time I get a pretty usb charger!

[coarse lily]

Yeah.

And a lot of stuff that used to be decent is now kinda crap.

He talks about how there's like 2-3 companies now, too.

Some stuff is different colors but otherwise the same thing.

[left swift]

this is such a old-man-in-garage-working-on-the-same-car-for-15-years moment

[coarse lily]

Haha

[golden gust]

lol

I mean, it's true though, theres only a handful of companies which really make their own shit these days

and then other companies basically respec that tool, e.g. cheaper materials, change the color, etc

[coarse lily]

Yeah.

And a lot of companies make stuff in the same factories and stuff.

With slightly nicer parts.

[left swift]

@warm anchor when u tested ur world the other day was there any fuckery with chunk borders or underground stuff

no that's client

[golden gust]

Server has 0 control over what the client renders

And it would be amazing if the vanilla client could unload and load chunks that fast

[magic river]

That's probably an "upgrade your GPU drivers" bug

But could be MC actually doing something dumb, gamedevs tend to not actually understand how GL and D3D work

That's why there are game-specific driver updates 😄

[coarse lily]

From the 1.18 test server

PeterCrawley (and others?)

[magic river]

[left swift]

how sweet

[magic river]

meh

[left swift]

paperchan pixelart when

[mighty bobcat]

Me and Destiny_Balls too!

[ancient bolt]

never seen the paper logo in minecrat

[rare python]

a not o

[ancient bolt]

that's dope

[velvet timber]

🥳

[coarse lily]

Me either. Thought it was worth posting :)

[rare python]

Logo was done by me.

[velvet timber]

Spawn v4 soon™️

[vernal moth]

really nice @rare python

[left swift]

this mean official papermc server coming soon?

[rare python]

Lol

[coarse lily]

Ha

[left swift]

[coarse lily]

Hard enough to moderate a Discord guild - adding a Minecraft server. Oof.

[rare python]

I was bored. I do have better things to be doing... but I am not in the mood do be doing them right now.

[left swift]

just use that guys AI chat filtering

[ancient bolt]

I can't imagine what a hell hole an official MC server would be

[left swift]

just make it anarchy so you dont have to do anything

[ancient bolt]

unless it just had dedicated builders building cool shit and everyone else could just log in to look at it

that would be the only way to do it right imo

[coarse lily]

I mean I'll run a Paper server if you guys want.

But yeah that sounds like a way to ban a lot of people.

[ancient bolt]

handling random people doing random shit and moderating that and everything else does not sound any fun to me

[left swift]

build server poggers

[true canyon]

I think I still have a plugin that's just a join event listener that schedules a ban for one minute away, and sends you your attempted block changes (e.g. breaking stuff) while actually rejecting them.

[coarse lily]

Haha

Like a hellban?

[ashen cliff]

Would the server auto update to the latest Paper build?

[left swift]

needs silk spawners and mob stacker

ayo if paper needs funding you could add lootcrates

[wispy blade]

ofc, right when i want to check my schedule

[hasty jasper]

is the client fog tied to server render distance now? my client view distance settings are fully cranked but it seems like it's only like 8 chunk render distance

[left swift]

also could just be a sponsor only server

[true canyon]

For the minute they're on the server, yeah. And then they're proper banned. 😄

[left swift]

that way if you're being a fuck you're wasting money

[coarse lily]

That's devious.

[true canyon]

Remember in like 2012ish when "griefing" videos were all the rage? I spun up a VPS with that plugin running, posted it as a comment on a griefing video saying "THAT SERVER HAS A NEW IP, LET'S GO GET IT!" with the IP address, and just watched the log as a few hundred joined in an hour and one by one was banned. 😛

[worn ember]

just make wiz mc moderator

[coarse lily]

Classic mbax

[stray oyster]

I got a stupid question for a sec
The mojang api returns UUIDs in this jank format, how am I supposed to read that with java "best"?

{
    "name": "KrisJelbring",
    "id": "7125ba8b1c864508b92bb5c042ccfe2b"
}

[true canyon]

I then migrated all those bans to our server ^_^

[coarse lily]

Haha

[vernal moth]

substring to the rescue!

[true canyon]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18986712/creating-a-uuid-from-a-string-with-no-dashes

[quick halo]

We have a 'shadow realm' plugin. We trap naughty trolls in collectable cards and send them to the shadow realm, just like Yu Gi Oh.

[radiant oriole]

Just insert the dashes manually

[worn ember]

i feel like that should be a valid uuid format

[true canyon]

New fiverr post incoming! 😛

[worn ember]

i'll put dashes in it for 5$

[coarse lily]

This is a pun.

Not sure if intentional.

five/fiverr

[worn ember]

im so proud of you

[coarse lily]

mbaxjokes

[worn ember]

mdadjokes

[radiant oriole]

😐 that was so bad

[true canyon]

😦

[left swift]

he tried guys that's all the matter

[worn ember]

better stick to writing docs instead of jokes

jkjk ily

[rare python]

The spawn has grown

[void void]

problem with java 17

its headless

im running servers on this version

cannot use fonts in my chart plugin

how do i install the fonts module, also is it bad that all my servers are runnning on this rn

[golden gust]

Google the error.

We'd have to Google it too, so am sure you can.

[void void]

it doesn't work

Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot load from short array because "sun.awt.FontConfiguration.head" is null

wait

[magic river]

https://blog.adoptopenjdk.net/2021/01/prerequisites-for-font-support-in-adoptopenjdk/

[void void]

currently doing

wtf it worked

nice

should i be worried about headless java

[left swift]

crazy

[void void]

will paper / mojang ever use libaries not in headless?

[light relic]

hello got told to come here for the paper update

[rare python]

#❗-1-18

[charred sleet]

hello people

[viscid wedge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gloria_Ramirez

This is one of the most bizarre things I've ever read

[void void]

how it is bizarre

[left swift]

there's some real admincraft things being said in the expiremental channel regarding performance and ram

[coarse lily]

Threads, RAM, megahertz, bits and bytes.

[warm anchor]

It was all good

Only time blending doesn’t work is when the seed changes

And old chunk to below Y64 you will only notice when you are in spec mode (cave won’t be connected crossing Y0)

[left swift]

ok

cool

[magic river]

If you do the forceUpgrade it doesn't blend though, right?

You have to let it upgrade and generate as you travel through the world, you can't pregen it or whatever

[left swift]

dont think forceupgrade is recommended at all

[magic river]

Well, no, for other reasons, just saying it'll really screw you here

[left swift]

advised against even

frowned upon perhaps

[quasi valley]

@twin lagoon make a backup of spawn before people grief it/you delete it

can't lose that hot build

[mild rune]

[twin lagoon]

https://transfer.sh/QXW2p7/world.tar.zst

[mild rune]

pog