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You do know that most software continues development, right?
especially OSS software in which, like, you know, people of varying skill levels and understanding of the codebase as a whole work on it?
the biggest reason software is updated is to fix bugs and patch vulnerabilities, not just to add features
in 10 years of updates theres probably countless CVEs
what kind of vunerability does it have
i dont get it bro how do people have vunerabilities that bad
go see the CVE index
The worse part with you is that I can never tell if you're just trolling or are actually that dense
that would put hackers out of work
i swear this shit is intentional tho
"just code good! lol"
its the same thing every time
exactly ๐
heard about NullPointerExceptions?
you try to make an incredibly advanced webserver with a massive codebase and have 0 vulns
no, because i code good and make sure null does not happen
dont make it big then
keep it simple ๐
whaat
alright ima read the cves
DUDE
LMAO
"keep it simple" yeah lemme just write apache in a one-liner
ITS THE SAME THING EVERY TIME
also the /../ in urls is OP
for hacking
people simply do not know that you can step back!
i think we fell for trollbait
sadge
im lowkey serious tho
well, yea, it's basically the NPE of low level languages
it needs to stop ๐ค
someone give chucky a project to write in c and see how many memory leaks it has

i know its a c thing
new c? new c? new c? new c? new c? new c? new c? new c? new c? new c? new c? new c?
not sure Im not familiar with rust
its kinda an indie language but
it is starting to replace other low level langs tho
yeah
"indie language"
not really lmao
rust forces you to be safer about stuff, but, it never even existed which much of this software was made
yeah ๐ข
wasnt c made in like 196something
1972&
still going
i think i wanna work as a security researcher
this shit is hilarious
its just the same story playing over and over
not necessarily lol
also security researcher is a broad term
Kotlin: Laughs in ?
kotlin bad (i have never used it)
@warm anchor 
@twin lagoon 
can we get this as an emote
no
ok JRoy
@twin lagoon 
BEST kierarnaranranrararna
BEST mocuahehoall

why is this a 4.6 but is RCE
kezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
likely very hard to abuse
ok
probably not an RCE either
CVE-2021-35054 : Minecraft before 1.17.1, when online-mode=false is configured, allows path traversal for deletion of arbitrary JSON files.
lol wut
wait what
minecraft cve 
probably something with the username?
are playerdata files stored as username on cracked servers?/
no
ah
can't exactly imagine anything else though
they should lol fuck cracked servers
@little frost BEST emilaiaaaa 
its just the offline player uuids
aaaa
it's pretty much just Java with more features
why step up a level tho
it's a step down
no it isn't
how do jetbrains make any money when intellij is free

it's not something I'd write stuff in but I can see why people like it having worked with it for a while now tbh
and potentially have to spend time on caching bugs? id rather die
anything you hear about kotlin from kezz is paid product placement
oh no i've been influenced by kezz
jetbrains do more than just kotlin
github's new command palette thingy is cool
i don't think that's new
if you get that job at jetbrains, think you could fix this rather embarrassing bug? https://github.com/JetBrains/gradle-intellij-plugin/issues/825
next you'll start making kotlin/native programs
can soemeon send example of OOP abuse
just find any project written in python by someone who transitioned from Java or C#
lol i've tried but it's so limited without some java apis and also i'm not going to fuck around with actual and stuff
do not waste any further time
ikr, non jvm kotlin is absolute dog shit
there's an error in your message
you put non jvm in your sentence
when that is not required
that webui external class is one of the worst things ive ever written in a language
but the kotlin in webui has been fun
it is quite fun yes :')
especially that one part where i zipped a zipped pair into a pair
truly a beautiful moment
Pair<Pair<A, B>, C>
if only you were using kotlin you'd be able to use var instead of Pair<Pair<A, B>, C>
typealias ๐ฅฑ
god, I hate Pair so much
val
Like, I hate them, but, I do reluctantly use them
cursed val pairPair = (a to b) to c
@waxen panther
i should probably find a better solution
pairs can almost always be replaced by a custom object
i almost always prefer spinning up a data class
wtf agreeing with jroy maybe i need to reconsider
wrapped in a meme
i wanna give that template pr some love
Yea, it's just sometimes feels very wasteful for stupid things, so, I generally reluctantly create a Pair class when I need something dumb, but, generally just prefer creating a real class
im stuck on a train tomorrow maybe ill give it a poke
i should also try to separate some logic there out of Main
best thing ever
i should also try to make it a proper multiplatform thingy
what for?
so, like split the js from the jvm
so that the jvm isn't awkwardly serving files, they can live statically
yes +1
a moment of bliss
i just write the kt and it make the browser go :^)
we can also utilise webpack loads to make it small and fast and compact
which is complicated with the current set up
and ..... hot reloading of front end
?
@mental meadow you got 10 updoots uwu
yes we're discussing stuff that should probably be in kyori
truu
is it possible to exfiltrate data from a database with injection when there is no output?
like making it sleep for a certain number of ms to represent the char number ๐
a side channel?
what
that's called a side channel
theoretically possible, if you figure out a way how to do this
Wise words. Preach
You know, every time I open discord I notice humanity takes one tiny step back
You can not open discord ๐
hi @warm anchor
Yes, because everyone is on the discord, sadly. I still have a lot of people on TeamSpeak

You can always go back to gasp Skype
I rather use IRC and a rotary dial telephone than ahem s-word
So, looks like I can't fall asleep. I can probably get my KVM and go cheat in MW or another game or sit on discord
I should really rig a monitor next to my bed and hook it up to a KVM terminal so I can fall asleep to Visual Studio...


Never use new software on day 1
You can see a huge amount of bug report on their tracker
i just found out my friends enjoy listening to Korn unironically and i'm considering getting new ones but that seems complicated
but maybe thats a bit complicated
Is this a good TPS?
...what on earth have you done to your poor server
MC is supposed to run at 20tps, higher is better
I have no idea. I just checked on my server and saw this. It almost always runs at 19+.
...
ok wasn't sure if that was a meme or not, yeah if that's legit you've got a serious issue
how were you able to log into it...
Oh, I know why. Someone made a huge fucking TNT WorldEdit.
yeah that would do it
10,726 votes and 944 comments so far on Reddit
its "nostupidquestions" for a reason though
how does me loling at it change that
jeff bezos' secret reddit account
Any idea where I can check what percentage of 1.17+ servers use Paper? I'm looking at bStats but there's no way to combine/filter stuff
Die Hard - Christmas movie or not?
vote!
:D
Huh, never knew that page existed, I guess I can just compare the total number of Spigot/Paper servers running on 1.17.1 against the number on Paper, thanks!
np
Seems like ~74k/~90k servers use Paper... time to drop support for Spigot
also i think it is intentionally hidden from view, woops. it has a shitload of data on it
maybe dont share it too much lmao
my b
also, keep in mind that doesnt count the servers who opted out of bstats
but, im sure it is relatively close
cursed
Yup, it's a pretty good indicator
So many outdated servers

Your teacher's so cool.
He's brain damaged
(it pulls from bstats)
kekw
sounds like he's rubbing off on you
aight
So many offline mode servers too 
what does it do with proxied servers
she prob means the proxy itself will only auth with mojang but downstream servers will still need to be in offline mode
Huh, apparently someone tried to DDoS me yesterday
My blog isn't working right now so they must have been targeting my IRC client
what is valk
the minecraft server i'm writing
oh damn looking at bstats i didnโt realize how much market share paper has gotten in the past year
aha
yeah
oh lol in that case, yea, how will it work in a proxied setup (or is it just a meme project)
how do you see the breakdown on bstats by version? so like to see the breakdown of paper vs spigot on 1.17.1
says it all
aha, interesting choice to go with a leaky language :p
you would have to pull from its api and drill down that data yourself i believe
felenov is the project coordinator
iโm pretty sure someone had a site like that. mightve been mini
he was like lol write it in V
he might've
don't know who that is
he's one of the crazy balkans
russian* dude who occasionally drops by in typing sounds
https://kennytv.eu/secretgraph/
this is close enough
that one dude who knows v+++++++
wow paper is ~80% of spigot/paper 1.17.1 servers
but uh yeah i'm currently trying to implement the minecraft protocol and NBT
great! please make your way to #paper-help

the launcher uses Xbox game pass, MC itself does not
no issues there
wdym i cant change name for it
you're not technically a purchaser of minecraft, therefore mojang wouldn't know
.
yes... you're still not a Minecraft customer, you're an Xbox game pass customer. You'd have to try on Microsoft's page
there isnt an option there
there are only 922 minecraft chads
cause 96 cores
contact MS support then 
uf ok
let me call Bill Gate for you hold on
ok ty
He said you will have to contact Microsoft support as hes busy @muted hedge
2.4% uses windows server bruhhhh
linux stronk
linux is used by microsoft instead of windows server
and these clowns thoo
ms has their own linux distro tho
w8 shudnt it change to my gamertag
or as i've recently started calling it, gnu+linux
33% of people use legacy plugins
hmmmmm
that must be where #paper-help is mostly consisting of
yep
simple dont you challenge me
@potent fossil https://stallman.org/extra/personal.html
1397 people should be decreased of social credit for using java editon in china
no?
Jesus, that actually made me cringe
My 25-year-old child, the Free Software Movement, occupies most of my life, leaving no room for more children, ...
it's cheesy AF
๐ถ
like more cheesy than some pickup lines i've come up with
Anyone got experience with MagmaMC ?
Its another one of those forge and bukkit hybrids
Too bad spongeforge latest version is 2838, tho i need 2855
What...
screenshot of end portal
My consent manager cookie layer crawler thing just detected a *.TikTok.com cookie on my company website
Which means performance marketing is actually paying TikTok now for ads
those are even older
Guess nobody gives a shit about 1.12 there anymore either
it will work fine with newer forge
or... dont give a shit at all
you're asking in the wrong place tho
You're also looking at the wrong place, latest stuff is on GitHub
its the same on github, 1.12.2 2838
you're asking in the wrong place tho
no guys
PaperMC.
MC is in the name.
That means this discord is for all MC questions, paper related or not.
You are WRONG!
PaperSpigot
no.
TIL that THX (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THX)
is owned by Razer
SpongeForge works in the latest Forge version even if it does not say so
in fact, if you go ask for support there they'll just tell you to update Forge
(you can't even install 2838 properly anymore because it tries to download libraries that don't exist in Forge's repository anymore or something like that, so you do need a recent version)
didn't they finish SpongeVanilla for 1.16/1.17 recently? they should be getting their hands on SpongeForge soon enough
they still plan on releasing a final update for 1.12 tho
what's the server all bout ?
glowstone said they gonnna work on 1.13+ and disapeared again
...and?
too bad this is actually offtopic chatter so people can talk about what they want
too bad im memeing
damn ๐
Hey
I still question why Intel didn't bring back FIVR on the new chips...
Anyone know the best solution for backing up a US OVH machine? The European ones offer backup storage from the go but the US ones donโt at all, and the machine is too big to back up in physical drives, thatโd take ages
Just backup the things you need, compression and use a cheaper storage provider for storing backups.
ovh's backup storage is trash anyways
just use borgmatic with a storage provider like backblaze b2
Not sure if itโs finished, I think theyโre still working on cleaning it up for final release but they also jumped to work on spongeforge 1.16 which is causing them to refactor sponge common to work for both platforms afaik
I really like sponge api / sponge vanilla but unfortunately their flagship is spongeforge and they are a small team
Thanks
Me: hey, I think am gonna go home early today
- Opens twitter *
Twitter: bomb found near your home location
Me: gosh darn it
Isn't all of thx just marketing?
It's literally is just a label "dis boi is good", no?
If you ever wondered what 30 pages of a document look like when they're accidentally put over each other, here you go https://i.imgur.com/IoVkCdU.png
Print it.
even if this had confidential information i wouldnt be able to read it
or is this some german language thing
It's German. 
what in tarnation
Uni is saving paper I see?
Those with a Raspberry Pi 4 Rev 6 (8GB models and recent 2GB / 4GB models) will also see the turbo mode clock bump from 1.5GHz to 1.8GHz for offering better performance.
Amazing.
I'm an idiot, I've been wondering why my watch stopped buzzing when I get messages or calls.... I put it on Do Not Disturb mode and forgot about it
I want to know, if they revalidated the design... or just didn't implement per revision clocks before.
tfw makes website cuz too lazy to make a nice powerpoint and teacher is big happy
Yeah
They still apparently do things old school, their previous games were locked at 30 fps
Why
You could mod them to run at 60 fps but then your invincibility time in a roll was cut in half and your weapon durability was too
Because they were counting frames your weapon intersected something for durability reduction and invincibility is also based on frame counts
iirc for Dark Souls 3 they let you run it at 60 fps without a mod but didn't actually fix those issues
Amazing.
that's like one step above making the logic depend on the clock rate of the CPU
Good thing we don't have a reliable timing mechanism.
yeah i still have no clue on how i'd implement timing windows in my taiko no tatsujin emulator either
HPET exists.
Gamers who only look at benchmark numbers: DISABLE. 
do you have any clue how you're doing anything
no
but that makes it fun
now cat would say: "heck, naomi doesn't even know how she's still breathing"
๐
She rite doe
ofc
cat do be do be do be do be thinking dat doe
don't worry cat hates everyone not just you
;)
r i p
It's fine.
It fixes itself on reboots.
Just how the firmware works for some reason...
Aka, I have 14 errors, till I reload.
@quasi valley i've posted a new pull request to the list of shame, i never realized quite how much wrong there was with it
list of shame?
kenny needs to add himself to the list of shame
one of his projects is, so
the list of problems is so big that it would be longer than the entire rest of the readme

I recognize all of these server names because I have been dmed advertisements for each of them at least once
cant see it
oh
right you dont use auxilor on gh
Pro Gamer Moment
noob
how is everyone
yeah auxilor is the org, i use willfp
lmao, the two biggest european electronic chain stores (Media Markt and Saturn, owned by the same company, second biggest electronics retailer in the world) got attacked by ransomware which apparently encrypted 3k servers and basically completely stopped all of their cash registers as well as internal communication, support and other stuff
Ayo anyone know how to do a POST via putty?
or a better tutorial than the shit one's I've been finding
do you mean doing them via a terminal on linux or something?
ssh, telnet, and raw socket
It's not a http client, however
you could ssh into something and use curl to do a POST, but, er...
maybe you're looking for curl
I mean technically you could send shit via a raw socket to a http server no? xD
nah I need to use putty
xy?
they probably just wrote the assignment in a shitty way lmao
Go look at how http works
You basically just shit ascii at the server and it will dump it back
I have Curl and the programming lang done
idk how to do putty
I can connect to the site
just idfk how to send it the info
Go look at what makes up a http request
because who tf wants to do that
people who write web browsers? 
I did
I send the headers & everything and It still gives a 400 error
It's a way of learning how a HTTP request works, ig
I mean, it's a test to make sure that you actually understand how http works
Stop whining and just do it. With all the time youโve spent complaining, you could have done it twice ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
That would be great if I knew how to fucking do it. Thanks
.g wikipedia http
(phoenix616) The Hypertext Transfer Protocol is an application layer protocol in the Internet protocol suite model for distributed, collaborative, hypermedia information systems. HTTP is the foundation of data communication for the World Wide Web, where hypertext documents include hyperlinks to other resources that the user can easily access, for example by a mouse click or by tapping the screen in a web browser. Development of HTTP was initiated by Tim B
Time to read up on the format then ๐
well... that's not really waht I meant that to be lmao
since when does that not include a link 
You have to use pencil which you canโt on irc
Lol
probably just a special case for wikipedia or other shit which has instant answers

i must be blowing @warm anchors mind rn
who
asked
inb4 this is some dumb ass attempt to lie off loose ends before she self yeets;
lie off loose
@warm anchor 
@twin lagoon 
day #153 of trying to get abs (yesterday): no exercise
day #154 of trying to get abs (today): 60 Zone Minutes. did 50 mins of strength and conditioning of lower body and core.

am probs on a list now, I mean, I may probs have already been, but, you know
Cat is always on the list
"what is public healthcare?" ๐
me neither, never broke a bone, only ever been in the hospital like 3 times (for myself ๐ )
and the times I had to go where always for stupid stuff like falling up the stairs
*were
I've been to the hospital once
slipped on ice and split my face open
mere centimeters from going blind
I guess you can say you were two faced for a while 
๐ ๐ช
is it better to run minecraft server new version which allows clients with older versions or the other way round?
Newest server version that allows older clients to join
why
how does this work XD?
newest versions are actively developed and supported
If you're using viabackwards, this is how blocks will be mapped: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/676144522308354103/853007164997763132/via-1_17-1_16.png
oh
it doesnt change the backend
so the plugin only changes client side so it can work for it
depending on the version of the client
No
huh
Yes
Plugin doesnโt change anything client side. It just send newer block as older block
The plugin changes what blocks the old version sees
As far as client goes, it thinks those blocks are older blocks
btw viabackwards vs viarewind
Read the wiki to see what they do
ViaRewind is for 1.7.x-1.8.x support
You use it together with viabackwards if you wish
efartinity
i think nobody needs 1.8 support
Monama
i mean its legendary but why
muh pvp
is 1.8 ok for 2021
only that side
The pvpers can stay with their bedlion and lunar clients and leave us alone
1.9-1.17.1
i guess i will go with that
why does viaversion has much more downloads than viabackwards or viareverse
why do people prefer having old server with new client versions support
XD

Because viaversion updates are faster than spigot/paper
'specially when spigot holds the update to ransom 
hard fork whenโข๏ธ
Like, for many servers it's the moronity of wanting to be 1.8 to be able to cater to those still mentally stuck there, while actually being able to attract like, you know, new players; Cos, ironically, most players these days are on the latest version unless they're specifically looking for 1.8
and, well, looks at how many 1.8 servers have died over the past few years
but cat, carpal tunnel pvp is clearly superior
you're just sayin that cos ur shit at pay vay pay
If the pvp in your block game doesn't make you click at one million cps, is it even true pvp?
I use viaversion for about a month each update. Gives enough time for spigot and paper to update and the major plugins I use.
Then I just update the entire server
Canโt understand using it for more than that long
Mojang did fuck up pvp doe
True
not that it wasn't already fucked, but, they made it worse
I remember when pvp was heavily like "who has the most pots" in 1.8
then in 1.9 they took out the "speed" which made it fun, and the shield is just dumb
They have that ancient pvp snapshot that they donโt touch anymore
Seemed decent iirc
and then they screwed player movement in the air
Waiting on your funding Noah
hm?
the attack speed is nice tho
adds depth, mojang didnโt really take advantage of it tho
Knowing the 20tps pcper they ainโt gonna like anything thsts not 1.8
Back when I worked support so many people used 1.8 craftbukkit of all things
I hated all of them
ur a pcper
Theyโd always complain about bugs
there was a change made to 1.9 around how you move when not on the ground, basically
Like yeah youโre using an outdated version
jump around in 1.17 for a minute, fire up 1.8, and compare how different it feels
a lot of stuff feels very different in 1.8
You could air strafe previously right?
like the lack of content 
don't recall exactly, I mean, you just basically feel like a fat fuck sailing through the wind as elegantly as a bowling bowl
/attribute @a minecraft:generic.attack_speed modifier add <Any random UUID you can think of> AttackSpeedModifier <Stupidly high value here> multiply
I remember the old air movement. Had a lot more control
stick that in a datapack and you can say goodbye to the attack cooldown if you don't like it
1.8 pvp is just better to host
who asked
and who asked you to say this
ur mom
ahh she has a really wide social circle i see
she gets around
No she doesn't
funny that 1.8 still has the damage cooldown but people still want to click 100 cps
Tell her I said hi
if she did she wouldn't be so round
now you describing my sis
||bitch went for a forest walk and left a forest fire||
good one cat
where do i get 1.16.5 paper
believe me 1.8 pvp is good for player
i would say 1.12 pvp mechanics are hard on players that they hate it
and it is a pain to block 1.9 below players
internet
.legacy
scroll down
click legacy
but before you do that, ask yourself if you really need 1.16.5
thanks
it's EOL
it has exploits that have not been patched and the amount of them increases all the time
paper does not maintain or support it anymore
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ProtoSky is an extreme nether skyblock using only vanilla survival features in a world void of blocks! 5 years in the making this world ...
intresting
you also miss out on goats if you use 1.16.5
the most important thing ofc
goats?
does the client send the movement packet that gets sent on right click before the interact packet or after
Especially ramming goats
u know all about goats dont try to lie to us
cat is here because
"MINECRAFT " drama and a geniuses with 10 iq
my standards are low, but, attainable
naomi is a genius with a z
i like the attack speed because it allows me to have more variation between custom items than just damage and enchants
i don't think minecraft was really made to be a pvp game anyways lol
who agrees that it is annoying if prison servers edit your pickaxe lore on every single block break?
the thing is that the overall changes just made a fun, fast paced thing into a sumo match
no minecraft is made to profit off of kids with in game item lootboxes
yeah they just implemented it poorly
I sometimes wonder how you and Mini ended up developing on Minecraft Servers to begin with
since when
it was sarcasm
the durability on my custom items is displayed in lore
what do prison servers do
like evrytime a block is broken
it says "10000 block broken"
this means that the pick constantly leaves your inv
and comes back
why is it leaving your inv
causing hugee lagg
arenโt they just doing setItem(slot)โฆ?
you make it sound like theyโre removing the item and then 1 tick later setting the item
when i break block
first the block breaks and my pick changes to the one with the new lore this means the pick is leaving my inv
and coming back
lool
why is it leaving your inv and coming back
Lmfao. So Intel's new CPUs break DRM, because of the big little thing it looks like you switched the CPU and thus are an evil man.
Intel's fix: activate scroll lock
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000088259/processors/intel-core-processors.html
if i queue lots of blocks this causes huge lag as pick constantly leveaing and coming back
either youโre insane or you just played on a prison server that had no idea how to do anything
uhmm it has 2000 online players and 5 gamemodes
so itโs probably just you
old school turbo button vibes
and i forget to mention
that you can't do anything while the block queue is processing
what block queue lmfao
break tons of blocks fast
wait 15 seconds for pick to leave and comeback every tick
and then do it again
i am not playing in there ever again
15 seconds every tick
it should just be on block break, get item, set new lore, set item. the pick is not leaving and coming back
unless they're doing it in a dumb way
yea
โฌ๏ธ
this is not the problem here
In other news, Cisco doesn't have backdoors, they just have unintentionally left debugging credtials
they must be doing some sort of dumb way
eww oh my god
those cables are way too tight
Why don't they hire professionals?
It hasnโt lose them enough of client yet mini
Or do they get paid by Russia?
For them to hire professionals
Cisco is professional
that's why you spend 10 grand on their learning courses and certs 
you should see the way this guy wired a solenoid onto a valve here
the cable is about as tight as possible
I mean, my experience of cisco gear is that it's pretty nice, but, like, to my understand it's sorta, "stuck in the mud"
team fortress 2 data breach stares on the code comments
Like, they have all these amazing features and shit in their software but it's not like the software is really continually developed as such
cisco is like the apple of networking
their phones are nice
or twitch
the TF2 source leak has been such old news by now
just, it's that weird thing where cisco is basically the industry standard for a lot of reasons, e.g. reworking an entire DC is just unfeasable and so you either stick to one manf or look into solutions which allow you to do one or more manfs in place which, like, who the fuck wants to do that
plus there was the TF2 Classic source that was public way before the leak
I just wanna understand why Cisco gear is so filled with backdoors
Because their shits hardly moved forward and so 20 years ago when debugging credentials was the norm, it was done, and shit never moved forwards
probably trying to apply new features to extremely outdated hardware/software
pretty sure the item shows the select animation every time you update it, which might be what they're talking about here
Cisco is basically a hardware AND a software provider
"Features"
their hardware side is pretty solid if you ignore stupid issues like the machines which would randomly die on a power cycle
Their software side however is seemingly very stagnant
or ubiquiti 

i can't comprehend the webex
cisco networking gear is actually very nice because they offer extremely granular control which is used a lot in enterprise, plus their reputation is there and software is well-supported and documented
I mean, does it look different compared to any software built in the mid 90's and maybe had a trivial UI overhaul at best?
but ubiquiti is much nicer to work with for small-medium businesses
i mean cisco IOS ui is nothing great but the underlying software works very well
there's a reason why most large enterprise systems backbones are cisco
was talking webex
Well, yea, cisco has been king for years and so they're basically in the same stance as MS
Eveybody is familar with their shit and anybody in that industry knows how to work with it
webex is just bad
But, in terms of quality of software over the years, it's not really moved
webex is horrific
i honestly just wish my company had all one brand of network equipment because having to be familiar with ubiquiti, cisco, netgear, trendnet, and sonicwall equipment sucks
Yea, horror is is that theres no real universal good brand or "good enough"
Like, netgear, their ethernet stuff is solid as shit but god their wifi hardware can suck a chode
what is wrong with webex
netgear waiting room 
iโve used zoom, webex, google meet, and they all seem fine
Teams master race
cisco is solid af in terms of everything you care about as part of your core network, but, their software is seemingly hardly looked after, hence why practices which where the norms 20 years ago of having secret debug credentials still exist rather than something modern, only massive pro is that they where seemingly so far ahead when they started that theres nothing major missing even though they've practically cemented a finger in their arse
and teams yea
ubiquiti's still looks really nice for "in the office", but, I've not seen anything to suggest that they'd be a backbone powerhouse, but, never touched their hardware so ๐คทโโ๏ธ
We threw everything Cisco out years ago
microsoft teams is god tier
gmeet is the next best
zoom is good for fast deployments but bad than meet in terms of everything
webex (no feutures except crappy gui that needs multi screen)
ubiquiti is the future only because saying the name is fun
Like, I mean, it's a bit of a plus for cisco that networking really hasn't moved anywhere in the past 10 years outside of at hardware level
and that's how businesses should be made
ms teams docs feature and sync feuture is just ๐
ubiquiti is nice the same way apple is nice, their ecosystem works incredibly well if you use all their equipment
Yea, I mean, that ecosystem aspect is a huge part of the issue once you start getting so big
idk i barely notice a difference between webex and zoom lol
whaaaaaaaaaaaa
reread i edited it
if anything i like webex because itโs integrated into my outlook
ohhh k
so is teams
cisco>>>> for enterprise
there's just no other brand with the same tenure, granular control, etc
Wat
theyre just kinda the industry standard at this point
not really
two seperate convos lol
which is a shame given how shit they basically are
but the multiple bars like the 3 of them and no web ui
needs multiscreen
Cisco isn't industry standard
juniper :)
they've kinda just rested on their laurels
juniper indeed
I mean, they're still "new" last I recall
whatโฆ?
Like, cisco is still #1 on the charts
what multiple bars
that's what i mean
why does it need multi screen
juniper equipment is sm better
School uses Cisco
Yea, I ain't touched juniper, I somehow have a CCNA thing and that's it
My friend knows the passwords and logins to the router
Damn, I ain't touched like "real" networking shit since 2015
uhmm my uncle gave me a class recording in which i was unable to resize chat bars q and a bars
and other stuff
do you guys have to do the gallup Q12 survey every year
and, I feel less depressed than I did back then; Coincidence?!
definitely not
~~Wait till you see zcat stoping going to #paper-help ~~
I keep saying to myself that I'm done with that channel
and then I somehow find myself back in there
Though itโs been slow down a lot coz summer is over
ive muted the support channels in most of the mc dev servers im in

I gotta get like a shock collar or something more fun and give it to somebody who can shock me when they see me in there
Itโs not about the people you help but the friend you made among the way 

among the us
God, I can't wait until theres some excuse and means for us to meet up
Plus I sometimes get wholesome DM like this 
Yo man paper convention zcat
Imagine

I wanna hug everybody, slap proxi, and it's just gonna be weird af though if I do the whole shy routine and don't insult people for an hour
I can finally sack @wispy blade in person??
simp wants to meet all the simps he met along the way
Their parents would be right next to them
Oh shit
nah fam
MLOL
(they are 10 years old)
you too <3
definitely not turning 16 in a month
meh me in india so i don't care
naomi casually turns 16
i already have abs
everybody else: How the fuck did she manage that?
@quick obsidian only if you add EcoEnchants as well 
casually turning 16 implies the existence of ranked competitive turning 16
you gotta turn 16 faster
it's more just the surprise that her dumb ass didn't get herself killed in the process
that's how it works

Achievement indeed
and kenny back to his coffin
"her dumb ass" did outbrain you this morning

looks like things are getting a wee bit spicy
in my defence, i'm mentally ill
we know
what's pixiv? is that like, imgur?
is it like Deviantart, probably is
a paper meetup sounds like those wow meetup pictures from the 2000s
@quasi valley knows it as typical pixiv user
@quasi valley weeb

but there are paper airplanes everywhere

every time I accidentally go to deviantart I pull the plug on my computer and get out the unsee juice
r/eyeblech
for relief go to r/eyebleach
Blech
why did it reply to you-
discord being dumcord
discorb
๐คข
man tagged cat and lived
what a madlad
@waxen panther
@waxen panther
@waxen panther
@waxen panther
@waxen panther
@waxen panther
@waxen panther
@waxen panther
๐ค
perfect
could white names (and Noah) refrain from pinging me please ๐
No
good morning Joshua Roy!
@waxen panther
No u
@waxen panther biatch

@waxen panther
color discrimination?
racism wtf @pinmanage
sounds like something a vegtbal would do
brocolai(discriminator)
love u noah xooxoxox

@waxen panther hi bwoccowai
๐
bwocowai owo
bwocowai owo
where is kenny with the weeb nuke when you need him
Probs stumbling around
You'd be surprised at how much damage blood being stuck in the brain can cause


weebs are gone !!!
im not a weeb im just brain damaged
Lmao, is there anything more fun than watching a police officer try to chase you when you broke thru a barrier? ๐
that feel when no say hi back 
In German they chase after you??
They did cut off the way home, no way I am cycling a extra mile, so I just broke thru
In US they just shoot at you
in Russia you chase after the police
is there anything more fun than hearing the police sirens as you look at the orphanage you set on fire! ๐คฃ
they do that regardless
you don't even have to break a law
you do have to be a minority tho
Public road logics
no
Just closed cause of the bomb
what that corner do to you that you cut it
To be fair, many coppers if you just explain will often just let you
But, ofc, dice roll there, they coulda be a cunta and tell you to piss off
Just casual bomb isnโt gonna stop mini from going home bro
yeah like from mario
Why are there so many bombs in your area
Nah they really strict for bomb stuff, they about to explode it
us brits dealt more with "how many can we send" vs "how many of a % will explode"

the uk isn't real
Completely forgot about history lol, I thought bomb (threats) made and placed today
rosa xo moment
the uk was invented by tea companies to sell more tea
DamageCause.BOMB
To be fair Germany was a bomb expert few decades ago. Just ask any Brit /s
Same for 'murica
invented to sell healthcare stuff
and guns
and burgers
here, you just bribe the cop
but to sell more guns and civil rights violations
eazy
Singin' aye aye yippy yippy aye
Singin' aye aye yippy yippy aye
Singin' aye aye yippy, the germans bombed our chippy!
Singin' aye aye yippy yippy aye
just because i live in america doesnt mean i like living in america 
in america if you try to explain something to a cop they'll shoot you for pulling a weapon
basically every citizen of every country ever
Only if you not white
and if you're white they'll take you to burger king
"hE aSsAuLtEd A CoP wiTh WoRdS!1!!!1!!"

and force you to eat impossible whopper
how dare they
I'll give you a whopper
Ok!
ok! where is mu burger cat
๐งโ๐ฌ
Yeah!!
All I'm saying is
I don't condone what guy fawkes tried to do
bring back #delicious-tacos
But, i really understand him
I made a joke I cannot follow through, I am sorry
the neckbeard mask guy?
smh
but its still there
no follow through
the guy natalie Portman was into
even more sad
Dw, one day, there will be a competent party in the UK and one in the US that we can elect and move forward and be happy with
"gUyS nExT PaRLiAmEnt% SpEeDrUn DroPpiNg sOoN!"
Remember, remember, the Fifth of November
Gunpowder treason and plot
I see no reason why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot
just make your own party smh
vote me for supreme leader of the joint americas
there will be dog petting mondays and taco tuesdays
I may have mental health issues but I'm not that mentally ill
does that include the village of Amerika in Germany?
and Wednesday's we'll invade a country that I randomly pick
ill vote for you if you make the national uniform a maid outfit
I'll make all police uniforms for male cops maid outfits and female cops fursuits and all others can pick between
and I'll replace guns with the water squirt flowers that clowns use on their lapels to shoot water at people
๐ซ ๐ซ ๐ซ SQUIRT, SQUIRT, MOFO
based nomana

hmmmm
i think that's enough



