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chrome cosmos
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i enjoyed enigmatica 6

vernal moth
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Build craft always was my fav mod

marble lark
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unless you count Optifine as a proper mod and not just a performance booster

wispy blade
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project ozone 2 ❀️

marble lark
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man has 145 repositories

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xd

wispy blade
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i just made my 13th today

vernal moth
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My first mods aren't even on GitHub

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Nor are my first Bukkit projects

wispy blade
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mine are πŸ‘€

warm anchor
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The question now is do you still have it mini

vernal moth
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I entered this community when hMod still was a thing ^^

warm anchor
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The first bukkit project I mean

vernal moth
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I have some shit on Dropbox still, yes

warm anchor
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Lol should revisit

vernal moth
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And I have old hard drives around, I never delete data

wispy blade
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oh yeah dropbox is a thing

vernal moth
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I did everything in Dropbox back in the days ^^

left swift
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Dropbox was cats nickname in highschool

vernal moth
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I even ran my server in Dropbox kekw

warm anchor
limber knotBOT
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"what is FTP?"

magic river
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I used gmailfs for a while back in the day, I bet that stuff is still in there...

marble lark
magic river
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Not that I have the tools to read it anymore

limber knotBOT
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I just used floppies πŸ‘€

magic river
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gmailfs would have been like 2005 I think

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floppies weren't a thing anymore πŸ˜›

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(I still had piles of floppies and only one USB stick)

void void
limber knotBOT
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well I'm talkin about pre 2000 lol

warm anchor
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You mean the thing copied from common save icon?

magic river
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Can't remember if that stick was 256MB or 16MB...

warm anchor
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/s

magic river
vernal moth
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Are you that much older than me phoenix?

limber knotBOT
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pingfs is way better

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runs

void void
vernal moth
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PIFS

marble lark
limber knotBOT
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I like how someone opened an issue there two days ago

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we had our first PC in school in 3rd grade and sending files via a 50kbps modem was out of question lol

vernal moth
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Well, I only update forks when I do new PRs

limber knotBOT
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I turn 30 next year mini so yeah, a bit

left swift
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Old

marble lark
magic river
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My mom got a computer (that was mostly just for me to use) in 1997 I think

vernal moth
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Well, that still leaves you to single digits before 2000

warm anchor
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Wow pheonix in senior centre soon

magic river
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Didn't have internet until 1999

limber knotBOT
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I wish eternity, lol

magic river
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Didn't have broadband until 2001 or 2002 iirc

vernal moth
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I was born 97 Amaranth ^^

marble lark
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I actually tried looking at your fork cause I'm also having a similar issue with Mercury too but I gave up after a while

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sh*ts soul draining

marble lark
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born in 2002

limber knotBOT
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not even remembering pre 9/11 πŸ˜…

magic river
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2002 I'm pretty sure I knew PHP already

chrome cosmos
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2006

magic river
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Can't remember when I switched to Python but I took a brief detour through C++ (helping write a PHP->C++ translator)

limber knotBOT
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didn't everyone start out with php? thonk

magic river
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Someone else did the parser and another person did the php_var type and all of its casting and promotion rules, I was just implementing stdlib functions

marble lark
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in my experience both PHP and Python were painful to write haha

limber knotBOT
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I'm still sad I can't find my first php project anymore

vernal moth
void void
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Looking for people who are experienced in moderating

limber knotBOT
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oof

marble lark
limber knotBOT
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my first memory about 9/11 is seeing it live on tv

magic river
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My PHP days were also my marijuana days, I learned I could sometimes be really productive while stoned but the code would be such a mess I'd be better off starting over than trying to clean it up

vernal moth
void void
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Are you?

left swift
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Cares

wispy blade
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not the place to hire people anyway

limber knotBOT
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moderating

marble lark
void void
wispy blade
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what pehonix said

void void
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Ask

vernal moth
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Hire me as a moderator

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i am great

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Wanna see a demonstration?

magic river
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9/11 was happening on my way to school. Woke up and it was on the Today Show (first plane) then when I was waiting at my uncle's shop down the road for the bus the second plane happened

vernal moth
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!warn @void void this isn't the place to hire people, please read our rules

thorny flickerBOT
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:raised_hands: Warned andr3#8204 (this isn't the place to hire people, please read our rules) [1 total infraction] -- MiniDigger#3086.

marble lark
vernal moth
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Am such a good mod, now pls hire me

void void
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@vernal moth i aint hiring

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Im asking if someone is experienced

magic river
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We spent most of the day at school just watching the news, I think only either the English or Geometry teacher actually tried to run a normal class

elfin steppe
void void
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Thats a false warn

wispy blade
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"paid in exposure"

void void
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Great example of a mod

left swift
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Yeah mini is an abuser

vernal moth
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I know

warm anchor
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Can I ask how old are you? @void void

marble lark
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you managed to make Mini of all people use his mod powers

void void
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16

limber knotBOT
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You see, we can infer information based on already present information

marble lark
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that's an achievement in and of itself

void void
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Why

errant spire
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hey, guys, how do I add datapack to my server?

left swift
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Mini is pretty much like old wiz nowadays

wispy blade
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BoomerDigger

limber knotBOT
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@errant spire add it to the datapack folder in your main world

elfin steppe
vernal moth
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!warn @left swift blasphemy

limber knotBOT
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but you should really use plugins, not datapacks

marble lark
left swift
errant spire
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thank you

marble lark
elfin steppe
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backslash before the symbol

wispy blade
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hey @marble lark one of my friends came up with a great idea for the elshout interpreter: if it errors anywhere just delete the line that errors

left swift
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He knows the loopholes cuz he abuses them so much

elfin steppe
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.flags

limber knotBOT
elfin steppe
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wtf

vernal moth
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Does \ escape @ everyone?

wispy blade
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korobi is bridged through irc

vernal moth
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I wanna try

elfin steppe
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no

vernal moth
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But I shouldn't

left swift
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Now's a good time to test

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When everyone in US is asleep

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Casual ping

vernal moth
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US is already waking up

marble lark
void void
magic river
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iirc we tried that before

left swift
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Only 8am

marble lark
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does Elshout straight up just delete the entire program

elfin steppe
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casually pinged everyone kekw

void void
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it doesn't

warm anchor
wispy blade
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it will delete allll of it yep @marble lark

vernal moth
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This discord would just die when somebody ghost pings, lol

marble lark
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@naomi

warm anchor
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Fake timezone don’t count @left swift zzz

left swift
warm anchor
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EST is bEST

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???

wispy blade
left swift
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Everyone always refers to central when referring to a US time

warm anchor
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What’s even central?

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Mountain time?

left swift
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Glad you asked

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You see

golden gust
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Discord bitches at you when you try to mention a fuckton of people with everyone

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generally

left swift
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This story starts back in the 1700s

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When britian was first settling land in the famed area, the new world

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Little did they know

magic river
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Central is the Great Plains, Oklahoma, and Texas

wispy blade
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restore new amsterdam :)

left swift
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That new world would rise up and shame them for being tea drinkers

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That's the real reason america went to war

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Because tea is fucking gross

golden gust
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I'll fucking teabag you

left swift
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You should be ashamed cat

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Do better

golden gust
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Fine

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We can try docking

left swift
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With socks on?

marble lark
crystal umbra
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I got access to the Github Copilot

golden gust
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Yea, socks on, 100%

crystal umbra
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I wrote the following text into an empty Java file

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and got this code generated:

left swift
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Who cares what time it is in Montana

crystal umbra
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thats fucking amazing what github did there

left swift
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Montana is just a copycat of hannah

void void
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damn

magic river
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Copilot: Laundering open source code into your proprietary projects since 2020

crystal umbra
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but its amazing nonetheless

left swift
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Is it actually a bad thing if they dont know though amaranth

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Is the code stolen if no one checks the source?

untold copper
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day #126 of trying to get abs: no exercise

magic river
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Is stealing bad if people don't catch you?

crystal umbra
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the code from copilot is not open source, its yours

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so the code that is generates

left swift
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Lifes greatest question

golden gust
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I mean, it's just sketchy af

left swift
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If no one catches you stealing, are you actually stealing

wispy blade
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still not sure if i should license under GPL or MIT

golden gust
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Like, yea, most of the shit which auto pilot is gonna complete is probs shit which should just belong in some stdlib style thing

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But, like, just, sigh

limber knotBOT
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copilot generated the GPLv3 license at some point so yeah, they definitly trained it on GPLv3 code so all code it generates is GPLv3

magic river
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copilot does sometimes spit out open source code verbatim

untold meadow
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it's been proven multiple times to just paste both open source and proprietary code

golden gust
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It's sus af, I mean, I know that it's trained, but, ^

magic river
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They never released the version that spit out the GPLv3 header, that was one of the early tweaks they made on top of the model

crystal umbra
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its great for quick snippets where you mostly search the internet

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or database stuff

golden gust
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I mean, the fact that it basically just spits out some code verbatim kinda makes sense in some aspects when you think about it

limber knotBOT
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yes, those snippets are copyrighted like everything else on the world is

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you can't just (legally) go and copy stuff from somewhere

untold copper
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@potent fossil ONO
CLARA DIED DDDDD:

golden gust
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Like, how many times are snippets from some OSS project just copied into other codebases as-is, so, probs sees it a lot

untold meadow
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it doesn't matter if it's a human or a computer who writes the code, it's still not yours to use unlicensed

golden gust
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I mean, the thing is that it's not your raw code directly

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It's the tail end of the ML centipad

limber knotBOT
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I guess just license it under (A)GPLv3 and you will be fine Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

crystal umbra
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copilot doesnt copy code pieces from projects directly, but sometimes it just generates like that

limber knotBOT
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if the code is the same then it's copied

little frost
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the classic copilot Q_rsqrt

limber knotBOT
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(legally speaking)

crystal umbra
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yeah but not on purpose worrysmart

golden gust
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So, I mean, yea, it's basically a raw copy pasta in some sense, but, it's just trained data which really creates a reaaaaaallly grey area legally

crystal umbra
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i guess copilot will be nice until the point it starts to leak API keys lmao

limber knotBOT
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this wouldn't be an issue if people wouldn't be dumb and publish non-open source shit

olive marlin
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It already did

golden gust
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I mean, but that statement is kinda farce, pheonix

crystal umbra
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but the copilot is really nice

golden gust
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How often do you work on a project, spot something similar and see that parts of their stuff looks kinda identical to yours

crystal umbra
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i finished something that my boss planed 2 days on for me

golden gust
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at the end of the day you're shitting data around

crystal umbra
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in like 10 minutes

magic river
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lol, until I got to the stomach issues the person I was just describing my symptoms to thought I had a stroke last night

limber knotBOT
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I mean yes, it depends on the amount that is the same if it gets into court

crystal umbra
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now im just bored lmao because i dont tell him thinksmart

limber knotBOT
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pretty sure you can just straight up copy and paste a certain amount without it every becoming an issue

golden gust
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I mean, it's data manipulation, much data manipulation across projects is the same when you boil it down

limber knotBOT
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(otherwise all code would be illegal as it isn't licensed under CC-BY-SA like the source on stackoverflow)

golden gust
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reminds me of the old monkey thing

limber knotBOT
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runs

golden gust
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How long, given a room full of monkeys on a typewriter, would it take them to reproduce the work of Shakespeare?

warm anchor
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Wouldn’t take a roomful. Just put one @wispy blade

limber knotBOT
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generally speaking too long, but producing something "like shakespear" would be a lot faster which is what copilot does

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I wonder what it does when you tell it to "Write WorldGuard" xD

wispy blade
golden gust
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Yea, but if they've never seen Sp, does it make it a copyright infringement of whatever they throw out?

crystal umbra
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well it knows the sense of life

limber knotBOT
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depends on whether or not parts are just exactly the same I guess

crystal umbra
limber knotBOT
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but can it do getGithubMasterPassword() :P

crystal umbra
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it writes the worldguard config

limber knotBOT
crystal umbra
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lmao

golden gust
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w t f

nimble depot
limber knotBOT
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nothing πŸ‘€

nimble depot
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I would go and grab all of MS's repos if I were you

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The second I been given access to UE repo I cloned it and pulled all the sources

crystal umbra
limber knotBOT
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printWindows11Source() πŸ‘€

crystal umbra
nimble depot
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Valve repos are something I would happily take

limber knotBOT
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well there is the issue: Windows isn't written in Javascript πŸ‘€

nimble depot
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Build and run Half-Life 3

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The most secretive game with no known release date

magic river
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Wow Linux with optane and io_uring was hitting 3M IOPS per core on the developer's machine at the start of September, 5.1M IOPS at the end of September, and is now up to 6.8M IOPS

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optane because he wanted to test with real storage instead of a ramdisk, I guess πŸ˜›

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And optane is probably the only place where you'd notice the kernel not keeping up with storage devices

marble lark
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<Insert lenny face here>

wispy blade
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someone did, actually

left swift
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What windows isnt javascript?

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My day is ruined

crystal umbra
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nah its Visual Basic Script

wispy blade
golden gust
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d a m n, just, I mean, 100k more IOPS plz

nimble depot
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How would Windows look like if it was made with Angular

magic river
void void
limber knotBOT
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someone at Microsoft wasn't too happy

nimble depot
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cracked the password

golden gust
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just, gg

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I actually had family members who used windows phone and it was comical

magic river
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Windows Phone was nice

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It just didn't have any apps worth using and you couldn't do everything from the browser

limber knotBOT
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I mean the interface was good and refreshingly different

golden gust
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my step father got my to upgrade the OS on my birth givers phone and she was pissed as much basically changed in a seemingly small update

nimble depot
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Windows phone was actually really good

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I mean the old one not the new one

golden gust
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my sibling used it and was annoyed that it didn't have any of his apps on it, etc

nimble depot
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I think I had a Sony Erricson that ran it

golden gust
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It was different but there was never really anything strong for it

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if it wasn't for the fact that it was microsoft I don't think anybody would of heard about it

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Then again, somehow android got big

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There was some areas of the UI in which MS did a really god job with

magic river
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Windows Phone was like tiles plus the zune UI

golden gust
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e.g tiles

nimble depot
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Azure was what really got me trapped in the microsoft ecosystem

limber knotBOT
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Microsoft was just too late, if they came out with it when the iPhone happened then they would've been a strong competitor imo

golden gust
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but, I mean, there where many areas where it just sucked ass

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I mean, they didn't have the market share, they didn't have the devices, they didn't have the dev support, etc, etc

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bearing in mind that windows mobile was basically the 2nd time they tossed out the phone ecosystem

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Apparently windows phone only came out like a year after android 1.6

magic river
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Windows Mobile was a Palm Pilot competitor that grew phone capabilities and they tried to theme the shit out of to make it not Windows 95 on a tiny screen

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Windows Phone was a whole new thing

limber knotBOT
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I still have a HTC HD2 which runs Windows Mobile 6.5 πŸ‘€

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(as well as android of course)

magic river
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I had an HTC Kaiser I flashed Android to

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But yeah, Windows Mobile pretty much required a stylus and physical keyboard

golden gust
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I mean, I just never saw a strong attraction towards windows phone, and there weren't really many strong things going for it

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I remember using the windows mobile simulators and just, damn

limber knotBOT
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the hand writing detection was actually pretty good on the HD2

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(well at least if you managed to learn their short form symbols xD)

golden gust
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I mean, that's kinda cheating ;P

limber knotBOT
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takes longer to write normal symbols though

golden gust
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But yea, at least over here there was no strong drive for it

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There was only really Nokia which was like actually dealing with MS for their phones whom where a known brand

limber knotBOT
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only ever saw those used in a business environment though (the one I have was used by my dad before)

golden gust
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android 1.6 came out a year earlier which is when people where starting to get to know android existed

magic river
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Microsoft and Nokia was... weird

limber knotBOT
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I mean, windows mobile existed since 2000 πŸ‘€

rigid fern
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heyo

golden gust
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Well, mobile was a completely different beast and was yeeted years ago

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I wanna say last release was like 2006? o.O

magic river
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VP from Microsoft ends up running Nokia and of course he suggests they go all in on Windows Phone and ends up selling the company to Microsoft

limber knotBOT
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2008 actually

golden gust
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oh, 2010

limber knotBOT
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oh right 6.5 release in 2009, phone in 2010

golden gust
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I mean, Nokia was starting to take a bit of a hammering too

limber knotBOT
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6.5.5 in january 2010

golden gust
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The fact that they went with windows instead of android is just, idefk

limber knotBOT
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imo at that point in time it would've been smarter to just let the consumer choose but I bet microsoft paid them to ship windows

golden gust
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Like, at least back then, you either had a nokia dumb phone, a samsung or LG clamshell flip thing, or a symbian device

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Like, Nokia was literally dickstomping everybody at least over here

limber knotBOT
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TIL that they planned a Windows Mobile 7

golden gust
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and then, android happened, and they just faded into obscurity

limber knotBOT
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lots of people had sony ericsons in germany

golden gust
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their walkman phones where kiiiinda popular over here, but, not exactly a huge boom

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I had like a W200i or something

limber knotBOT
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they had flip phones too

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(I think? or was that just motorola?)

golden gust
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Moto had flip phones

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I don't reall SE having flip phones until maybe later?

limber knotBOT
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but yeah, I think I was thinking of motorola

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at least from my social circle there wasn't really a dominant brand

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ok apparently the Walkman series had all form factors

twin lagoon
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@waxen panther new kori emotes when

waxen panther
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@twin lagoon

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@heady spear

heady spear
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@waxen panther just said "lobba" instead of "lobby" pls everyone point and laugh

twin lagoon
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@untold meadow BEST kezz

waxen panther
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😠

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leak ?

golden gust
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I mean, am tryna remember too far back, I mean, Nokia was basically the powerhouse until android came, there where many people with like LGs, etc, I remember the LG cookie being stupidly popular for a while until everybody broke theirs pretty much, but, I mean, nokia basically disappeared here fairly fast

plucky sparrow
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Isabelle ❀️

waxen panther
untold meadow
graceful wyvern
little frost
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uhmmm

untold meadow
golden gust
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You just don't understand how much of a calm, understanding and lovable person I am, everybody loves me, except cunts, screw those people with an icicle, that's what I say! MAKE THEM PAY!

waxen panther
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cat i think you should ban city for being mean to me

golden gust
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I love city more than you, sorry

plucky sparrow
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wow

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crazy

waxen panther
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wtf

graceful wyvern
golden gust
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I'm sorry for saying it to your face

waxen panther
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😐

left swift
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Ew who would love city outside of his money

golden gust
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Sometimes you gotta just accept being screwed for the monay

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Well, actually, with city it's more, sometimes you just gotta accept havin to be a drill, but, still

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runs

left swift
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Drilling for money

magic river
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TIL NaN and Infinity aren't actually in the JSON spec

wispy blade
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lol

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naml > json

golden gust
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Tell me you're brain damaged without telling me you're brain damaged

waxen panther
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how many times do you mention naml a day oml

wispy blade
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how many times a day do you ping michael

waxen panther
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every other time i open this channel naml is in the last 10 messages

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5-7

wispy blade
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a bit much, no?

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(i'll cut down on the naml)

waxen panther
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@twin lagoon koriLove

left swift
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@waxen panther naml

chrome cosmos
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whhhhhhaa the blueedge wbesite is insanneee

magic river
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wow southwest airlines is still not doing great today

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Over the weekend like 1/3 of their flights everyday were cancelled and today so far they're at 10%

chrome cosmos
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spotify omggg

left swift
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Why

magic mesa
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naml < laml

wispy blade
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no way you just made lethal actual mock language

magic mesa
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Are you gonna implement my bool idea into elshout? if so you should call it "mayhaps"

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It's not even a bool at that point tbh

wispy blade
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who needs bools kekw

magic mesa
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Yeh we just need 0 and 1 in a byte

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Or if you wanna be an ass, force them to use an int64 PES_EvilRondo

hexed dragon
void void
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Cursed Abomination of a Markup Language

chrome cosmos
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my favourite paper worldgen is iris plugin
what is yours?

void void
chrome cosmos
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yoooooo pogg

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like

olive marlin
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There can only be one Glare.

little frost
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we need to this

nimble depot
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Felenov's Universal Control Key should be on every keyboard too

ashen cliff
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Daily reminder to pick the worst possible mob, so we can yell at Mojang yearly.

void void
nimble depot
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Paper community redpilling mojang. Let's go.

quasi valley
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Just bribe Dream to tell his fans to vote for the worst option

plucky sparrow
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just wait for dream to pick the worst possible mob

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and then all of the kids that follow him will pick it too

marble lark
plucky sparrow
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those kids lack both a brain and personality

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reminds me of @wispy blade

unkempt drift
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Next up, a mob that tells you your current coordinates

marble lark
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(Disclaimer: I have nothing against the Squid even though I'd have prefered a new Illager)

void void
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no need for a bribe

unkempt drift
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And then, a mob that tells you what biome you are in.

plucky sparrow
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i wanted moobloom

unkempt drift
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This is the year of F3 replacement mobs

void void
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Like some sort of turning dial that you can't decipher without having the wiki open on a second monitor

unkempt drift
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For sure

plucky sparrow
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what a fanbase

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depressing

void void
plucky sparrow
marble lark
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:)

plucky sparrow
marble lark
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pretty sure they were being sarcastic though

plucky sparrow
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no..

void void
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We're talking about dream stans here

marble lark
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how bad can they be?

plucky sparrow
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very bad

marble lark
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sure they're overly interested in some guy that plays Minecraft to an unhealthy extent

plucky sparrow
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have you seen the dream stan meetups

marble lark
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but eh let them do what they want

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nope

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why?

plucky sparrow
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cannot find the og tiktok

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but that will do

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i thought it was a birth control ad when i saw it on tiktok

marble lark
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I'm cringing pretty hard ouch

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how old are these people though?

plucky sparrow
#

12-15 im guessing?

marble lark
#

I know I did absolutely dumb cringeworthy shit when I was 13 and younger

#

15 is a little concerning though

plucky sparrow
# plucky sparrow

i do not remember telling this to my favourite youtuber when i was 12-15

#

might just be me

marble lark
#

ok yeah that's defo a wtf moment if they're that young

marble lark
# plucky sparrow

(I can't judge the singing because I'm the same guy that ran around a school hall with the entire cohort present screaming like a lunatic when I was 12 because I found out someone had the same first name as me but that's... worrying to say in the least)

wispy blade
#

i never commented on youtube

#

like

#

i did some cringe shit when i was 12-now

#

but not this cringe

plucky sparrow
#

definitely

marble lark
wispy blade
#

i mean there was that time i did that shuffle dance that was popular a couple years back in the cafeteria

left swift
worn ember
left swift
worn ember
#

Yes

cunning raft
marble lark
#

lel

spare stone
marble lark
#

even I can't argue that that may be sarcasm

#

sheesh

wispy blade
#

i will only hail the great boben

worn ember
#

Dream, more like nightmare amirite

wispy blade
#

that's his funny alter ego smh

marble lark
#

lmao

marble lark
# spare stone even worse

all I remember was that even Agnes looked disappointed when the Glow Squid won now that I think of it

fallen oracle
marble lark
#

jk love ya homie

worn ember
#

Who is glare

wispy blade
#

joe

worn ember
#

No

marble lark
#

mama

worn ember
void void
marble lark
#

i just realized I didn't check what the options were

#

brb gonna check

void void
#

Pretty sure the glare is the only mob teaser that's out

marble lark
#

yep it is

#

rip

#

ended up searching for nothing

foggy veldt
#

I wonder what these Twitter stans will be like in 5 years

#

Can’t wait to see a Netflix documentary on them

#

Actually I wonder what the creators will be like as well

#

I can’t imagine all of this idolization is healthy

proven hollow
#

Any one can recomend good oneblock plugin ?

fallen oracle
#

Doesn't BentoBox have one of those?

tropic flame
#

Glare is the mob that comes to replace the client light level value in F3 for normie players who don't read the wiki πŸ˜‚

#

but then they apparently they changed the light level under which monsters spawn in the 1.18 snapshots?? so i guess that's volatile now

warm anchor
#

its changed and changed back

tropic flame
#

oh?

#

so it's back to 7?

warm anchor
#

3 snapshot ago iirc

tropic flame
#

if you're not wrong then the wiki is outdated

#

i see no mention of them reverting that change

#

only that they've reverted the fact that spawn rates were consistent throughout all altitudes (which they had added in experimental snapshot 3)

warm anchor
#

o.O

#

Someone just summoned it in #paper-help you can look there

#

@tropic flame I think you are right

twin lagoon
#

@untold meadow BEST kiearararerarnarnaranranran

#

@warm anchor rielove

warm anchor
#

I misunderstand it

#

Good afternoon Michael

twin lagoon
warm anchor
#

The hand movement is honestly so satisfying

#

Epic sticker Yess

tropic flame
#

ChomkyBorder

potent fossil
#

very smooth animation

#

henlo etern and michale pepelove

warm anchor
#

I hope your morning is great so far Pepelove

grand pewter
#

it lets you have one per world

plucky sparrow
#

i think

#

spawn does not spell like that

warm anchor
#

Okie

tropic flame
#

spauwun

plucky sparrow
#

yea it spells like that

tropic flame
#

πŸ‘‰ πŸ‘ˆ

golden gust
#

Eternittity Quwuality approved

warm anchor
#

Fixed Pepelove

warm anchor
#

I see no issue on that one @ kneny krappa

tropic flame
# void void

nah you don't get it, it's because it's VIVA LA REVOLUCIΓ“N VERSIΓ“N! or something

void void
#

ah, my bad

untold meadow
warm anchor
#

Thsts like an inside joke coz I sick so much at spelling

untold meadow
#

I can't tell if it's a lil dance of an "omg my head"

tropic flame
foggy veldt
#

An useful plugin

tropic flame
#

it is, never denied that

foggy veldt
#

I was pointing out the grammatical error

tropic flame
#

oh

plucky sparrow
#

The verb, yes; the interjection, no

#

It’s an exclamation of acclaim or approval

warm anchor
#

I am personally not a fan of supporting other version so I did indicate the intention

#

Say 1.18 is officially released (officially launcher will automatically set you to latest. You can allow people to join your 1.17 server while you wait for a stable paper release

#

That to me is the proper usage of such plugin

grand pewter
#

you could probably just use worldguard or something at that point

little frost
grand pewter
#

pretty sure there's something for enter/exit

#

but I can't say cause I haven't ever used it

#

if not idk

little frost
#

showoff :<

heady spear
#

nocheatplus is fucking lit

#

dunno why people whine about it all the time

warm anchor
#

.ncp

limber knotBOT
warm anchor
#

It’s just people bad at config

#

Coz it is not a drop and go plugin

heady spear
#

spent a good 30 minutes tweaking creativefly values and it works really well rn

#

maybe it's the format of our games, idk

warm anchor
#

They would rather pay $20 for a closed sourced plugin coz their friendly YouTuber told you it is better

#

No. City you are completely correct.

worn ember
#

hmm fairphone looks interesting

native wolf
toxic bone
#

good afternoon paper minecraft

native wolf
#

The main goal is to not lose players while you get stuff updated

tropic flame
warm anchor
#

Swum it’s to support player who wants 1.8 krappa @native wolf

tropic flame
#

suuure, buddy, a special client can suddenly become aware that NoCheatPlus exists in the server and say no to it

#

suuure

#

it's not you who has a shitty config, it's the plugin that's bad πŸ˜‚

toxic bone
#

1.8 🀒

native wolf
#

1.8 is some cursed stuff tbh

honest fulcrum
#

hey does anyone know any per-world plugin ?

untold meadow
#

don't use per world plugins

#

either use luckperms contexts to change permissions or host different server instances

wispy blade
ashen cliff
#

Epic.

void void
wispy blade
#

i hate V

#

it's a bit too early on to say that though

worn ember
#

im sure it hates you too

nimble depot
#

here we go again, I hate Kibana sometimes

vernal moth
#

Try using a modern browser

#

runs

#

I love kibana

#

Without kibana, how would I make sense of the 10gb of logs my apps produce per day πŸ˜‚

charred sleet
#

chrome :/

#

meh it does the job

#

just takes all me ram

toxic bone
#

chrome :)

proven hollow
#

looking for start up script which is optimised
for 1.17
any one can help

nimble depot
vernal moth
#

Or 1.15

#

It's still good

nimble depot
#

nvm found the problem.

vernal moth
proven hollow
#

so I am out dated

#

xd

vernal moth
#

I can't see other peoples apps in prod, so I only see my 10gb

lament patio
limber knotBOT
olive marlin
vernal moth
#

Am like top 3 traffic wise in the company with my stuff, idk how much others log

proven hollow
#

thanks

vernal moth
#

Some people have access log, even tho we have an APM.........

#

I wouldn't know how to work without instana

#

I would sacrifice kibana for instana

worn ember
#

Idk any of whatever you're talking about πŸ˜‚

vernal moth
#

Kibana has like this log file handling UI on top of elastic search

worn ember
vernal moth
#

Used to search and stream logs

worn ember
#

Oh

vernal moth
#

Instana is an APM, applicate performance measurement or whatever

olive marlin
worn ember
#

I have heard of elastic search

tropic flame
worn ember
vernal moth
#

It basically tracks every single request in my infra, sees the backend calls, handles correlation IDs, can show log messages and DB calls and it becomes this super helpful thing to debug issues in prod

worn ember
#

Yeah that sounds real nice

vernal moth
#

"hey I didn't get a confirmation email" "well, I don't see a request with that email, I do see one with yourname@gmail.de tho you dum fuk"

#

Or you can see exactly where failure happens

#

If I return an 500, I can open instana and see what went wrong, all the backend calls, log messages, stack traces, etc

#

I love it

#

Obviously also does performance stuff, like measures latency

#

And then there's the whole "AI" stuff where it sends me alerts for stuff like sudden error rate or latency spikes for some endpoints and stuff

worn ember
#

Very cool

vernal moth
#

Only bad thing is that IBM brought the company last year 🀑

#

It's always like this, you think a cool thing, use it, a year later IBM buys it and ruins it

#

Instana isn't ruined yet, but IBM sure did ruin openshift when they brought Red hat

#

Pretty sure instana got more expensive already too

#

My team lead knows the founder, it's one of these rare German startups

worn ember
#

Was :)

nimble depot
#

for some reason kibana keeps restarting. Hmmm, time to go read some logs

vernal moth
#

Hopefully you don't normally use kibana for that ^^

proven hollow
#

So I got small problem java -Xmx8000 -Xms8000 -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Daikars.new.flags=true -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -jar paper.jar --nogui
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Too small maximum heap

void void
#

8000M

proven hollow
#

so need to add m

twin lagoon
#

yes

#

-xmx8000, 8000 what

grand pewter
#

m is for megabytes, what you have is just bytes i think lol

#

which 8000 is nothing

proven hollow
#

dam

#

πŸ˜‚

#

when u don't read

grand pewter
#

tbh not sure why they don't just give you a dropdown for that in their site

#

should probably default to M or G

ashen cliff
#

T

tropic flame
#

P

ashen cliff
#

Soon brother.

#

Sadly the 127TB limit is still there to hunt me.

tropic flame
#

damn

#

hopefully KGB Systemsβ„’ will break through this limit!!!

ashen cliff
#

Soon brother. We just need to port JAVA to just AVX512 instructions.

toxic bone
#

java in real life

limber knotBOT
#

Meanwhile ZGC supports multiple hundreds of TBs

ashen cliff
#

Still limited to 16TB AFAIK.

limber knotBOT
#

ah, one day

warm anchor
#

Design choice PepeLa

limpid comet
#

you can put a G there

#

i'll make that more clear in an update though

tropic flame
#

sorry man i only input numbers in bytes because I'm b0$$

nimble depot
#

kibana keep restarting for no apparent reason and I am about to get very violent with woever broke it

warm anchor
#

Make give give out an error if G or M is not indicated? @limpid comet

limpid comet
#

yea the old site used to bitch at you about that

#

I'll play around with it when I have some time

warm anchor
#

Also should default PAUSE on the one liner @limpid comet rieBigBrainThinking

main flicker
#

Hello does someone know if pebble host in premium 6 gb ram will be good with 15 players and 40 plugins? ( on paper )

grand pewter
#

no rush was just a thought

nimble depot
#

Update: the other administrator broke it, said they will fix

wispy blade
#

after ~10 minutes of arguing*

lament patio
plucky sparrow
#

I’ve tried pebblehost and it struggled with paper 1.17 on 15 players and even less

#

Depends on the version though

lament patio
#

I've had a smaller budget plan and it was possible to host just under 10 if you put effort in optimizing, so I guess you'd be fine, but consider looking elsewhere, Pebble isn't known for the best performance for the price

#

Oh, hell no, $14/month, get something better

plucky sparrow
#

It very highly depends on the version

#

But yea there’s better alternatives

waxen panther
#

@heady spear

twin lagoon
#

@waxen panther

waxen panther
twin lagoon
heady spear
#

@waxen panther ? What do you want me?

waxen panther
#

Yes

heady spear
#

Leaveth me aloneth

warm anchor
#

Y’all go to sleep

waxen panther
#

No I’m taking my rubbish out and it’s dark

#

I need a strong swede

heady spear
#

I got an email confirming that they’re actually sending this beauty

warm anchor
#

British moment

heady spear
#

Look how cute

warm anchor
#

Rubbish

waxen panther
#

Apple Watch on Friday

warm anchor
#

Wtf

#

Nice

#

Latest?

waxen panther
#

Ye

warm anchor
#

Nice nice

heady spear
#

Apple Watch is only €100 more than this fucking passport holder

#

Did I get scammed

warm anchor
#

Yes

waxen panther
#

Ya think

warm anchor
#

But it’s ok city you are simulating economy

heady spear
#

It’s a cute print tho

#

I’m gonna look cool at the airport

warm anchor
#

But you are already cute

heady spear
#

I should have gotten the monogram eclipse tho as it matches my keep all

waxen panther
#

Same print they use everywhere

#

Zzzzz

twin lagoon
#

zzzzzzzzzzzz

warm anchor
heady spear
#

I got leather instead of canvas tho

#

And the print is slightly different yet classic

#

Fucking LV could release a monogrammed toilet paper roll and id buy it

#

Oh well, they’re lucky there are idiots like me

olive marlin
#

At least you are self-aware City pepela

warm anchor
#

When city wakes up, he look into his closet and he feels happy

#

That’s all it matters weSmart

heady spear
#

I’m not happy

#

But at least I can look fly while being unhappy

#

You feel me?

foggy veldt
#

I feel u

void void
#

drippy !

toxic bone
#

drip

twin lagoon
#

i can see where this is going

warm anchor
#

Gtfu

heady spear
#

@potent fossil hi daddy

#

how are you

potent fossil
#

im in class bye

heady spear
#

oh that is so hot

#

i love educated men

uneven comet
twin lagoon
#

a bit of modern slavery combined with runescape gold farming & advertising solely to continents where wages are generally low as shit already

toxic bone
void void
hybrid token
#

i n v i s i b l e

hybrid token
tropic flame
#

at least the dude ain't an ancap, I'll give him that

void void
#

😬

vestal jasper
toxic bone
true canyon
#

In Discord permissions, you set the defaults Guild-wide, but then can do individual overrides on a per-channel basis. Similarly, in FactionsUUID you set permissions territory-wide, but can do per-chunk overrides. That's clunky though, so I'd like to establish a way of defining a group of overrides that gets a name, like "alliesZone" for a group of overrides letting allies do stuff, that can then be applied to a bunch of chunks, so instead of per-chunk settings it's "these chunks all have this group of overrides"

I'm not a fan of just calling it a 'group' and I don't quite like 'override' either though. Looking for naming suggestions for this named collection of permissions that can be applied to multiple chunks.

warm anchor
#

Chunkythingy

toxic bone
#

πŸ“›

potent fossil
true canyon
#

ZOOOOOOOOOOOONE!

potent fossil
#

that term is also used in real life, like you 'zone' some land for residential purposes, or you 'zone' it for commercial, or industrial, etc

true canyon
#

Oh boy and now I can call those permissions for the zones "zoning bylaws"

potent fossil
#

yes

true canyon
#

and then they can establish an HOA and ruin everything!

potent fossil
#

i will now collect my royalties for this. they are as follows:

  • mbaxter loves me
true canyon
#

❀️

chrome cosmos
#

status:
senior
junior

#

what data type is this ?

potent fossil
#

probably an enum

#

but it could be a string just as well

chrome cosmos
#

ohh thanks for helping in my exam

potent fossil
#

...

#

only hurts you my friend

#

have fun being academically dishonest and then eventually reaching a point where you realize you are entirely incapable of problem solving on your own

warm anchor
#

its ok he can work in a support callcenter for IT jobs.

long tree
#

How to transfer server with npcmd? I know the bungee command to do that. But idk of npcmd? Thankyou!

#

Its not working

potent fossil
#

go ask citizens support?

spare venture
#

bungeecord commands arent ran the same as spigot commands

magic river
#

You have to actually communicate with bungee somehow

#

Right, bungee is intercepting commands the player types and stealing some of them so the servers never see them

#

You can't try to just run that command on the server, you need some way to get the player to run it themselves or you have to talk to the bungeecord server

spare venture
#

Bungee
On Bungee servers, this supports the Bungee server command, like /npc command add -p server MyServerName. Note that this is a special case built into Citizens internally, and bypasses any normal permission requirements automatically.

magic river
#

In that case yeah, go ask citizens support πŸ˜›

spare venture
#

oh he's using CitizensCMD

magic river
#

Oh wow the southwest airlines issues got even worse today

#

They had over 40% cancelled, over the weekend it was only around a third

#

Huh, FlightAware still says 11% cancelled, 41% delayed though

vernal moth
#

What's their issue?

magic river
#

Not clear

#

There is mention of storms and such messing them up on Friday and putting all their planes in the wrong locations so it's kind of a cascade thing

vernal moth
#

Oh fun

magic river
#

There is also mention of vaccine mandates causing ATC and pilot shortages but the relevant unions there have said that isn't the case

vernal moth
#

Lmao that must be a hell of a mess untangling

#

The vaccine mandates being a reason I would put into fake news territory until proven, that seems every made up

magic river
#

iirc Florida had some time on Friday with ATC issues due to military operations happening and shutting down some of the air space and that threw Southwest even more out of whack

vast oxide
#

Martin πŸ˜„

vernal moth
#

What?

#

With stuff like that my bullshit sensors get tingling

wispy blade
#

mornin

void void
#

Mornin

plucky sparrow
#

mornin

wispy blade
#

@plucky sparrow learn Elshout when

plucky sparrow
#

rather learn kotlin

wispy blade
#

why kotlin

#

why not V

plucky sparrow
#

since when is Discord on the microsoft store

ashen cliff
#

Sets wifi to auto channel.
All APs select the same channel.
thinking_gun

potent fossil
#

APs: "fuck this guy in particular"

potent fossil
#

im listening to ryan vasquez

whole prawn
ashen cliff
#

And my phone just gave up on 5Ghz and only sees 2.4Ghz.
Thanks Qcom.

potent fossil
#

krusic's really having a bad day

#

ngl kash i can't vibe with this lmao

#

its not my song

ashen cliff
#

Nah. It's fine. Just 10 more reboots and it should be fine.

#

I still love, how you can crash the driver just by using BT and WIFI at the same time. πŸ›Œ

ashen cliff
#

Cleaning out bookmarks.
Finds come Github bookmarks of cool projects.
Dead since the day I bookmarked them.
Epic.

olive marlin
#

They just couldn't handle Balkan, Bro!

ashen cliff
#

Fact!

potent fossil
#

can balkans even handle Balkan?

ashen cliff
#

Nope. That's why most go Nemačku.

untold copper
#

balkans are weak.

potent fossil
#

you're weak

untold copper
#

i know.

potent fossil
#

snoopa is indian balkan

ashen cliff
#

Snoopa wouldn't last a single day in Balkan.

untold copper
#

what you should really be asking yourself is: would you?

ashen cliff
#

Yes.

#

Kind of live there.

untold copper
#

doesn't mean you survive.

ashen cliff
#

Well. I'm going to die eventually.

chrome cosmos
#

my internet seems to go to hell today

#

thank you railtel very cool

worn ember
ashen cliff
#

Sorry bro. Just the way it is.

nimble depot
#

So hetzner made me break my desk again

#

"maintenance" is actually 8 hours of downtime. Oh cool.

worn ember
#

still up for me

nimble depot
#

They been having issues with dedicated servers for some reason

ashen cliff
#

Works good for me. πŸ›Œ

worn ember
#

same

vernal moth
#

In case cat is reading, just letting him know, they found not one, not two, not three not four, five (!) bombs today

#

Not all are British so it's actually dangerous this time around

#

Hopefully they done till I come back, but it looks like the road I did take this morning is just out of the circle

pastel sun
#

do u guys know how to make server less laggy alot

plucky sparrow
#

yes

#

get a new server

#

on a host that does not suck

pastel sun
#

aternos?

#

and do u know how to decrease hit delay

#

when pvping or smth

nimble depot
#

alright, I just decided to get rid of the ELK stack and redo it from scratch

pastel sun
#

any1 knows how to decrease hit delay on paper

void void
#

Pretty sure there’s a plugin for that

pastel sun
#

wait there is?

#

what plugin

pastel sun
golden gust
#

I just hope he kicks one of those things one day 😦

nimble depot
#

I fixed everything nvm

void void
twin lagoon
#

@untold meadow BEST kieriariarierieiraran

toxic bone
#

hello

nimble depot
#

I wonder how many clients I could cram into one Hetzner CCX52 instance

#

if I swtch over to doing that I miht save a lot of money in the long run

void void
#

Is that part of their cloud range?

nimble depot
#

yes, that's cloud

void void
#

That's a lot of cpu cores

nimble depot
#

and a lot of clients that could go on there. We give clients two threads and limit it so we can stick as many as possible into a singe server

void void
#

oh, hosting clients

#

I thought you were talking about mc clients

nimble depot
#

also I came up with CompressClients.sh (looks at the number of clients, finds the average low and high usage ones, moves them between nodes (thanks, kuber) and yeets the now empty box)

#

Yes, me and my friends decided to try ourself in the hosting business

minor badge
#

That's not gonna be cost-efficient at all

#

Look at their AMD dedicated servers for both better performance, free usage bandwidth, and far better bang for the buck

void void
#

Dedi's are probably going to be much cheaper ^

nimble depot
#

it would be expensive with the way we do things. When we get bigger I might upgrade to dedis

golden gust
#

it would be expensive

#

You're literally paying for the premium of being able to turn stuff off

void void
#

I feel like the cloud instance would be much more expensive than a dedi

twin lagoon
#

mari mari mari mari mari mari

minor badge
#

It would, yes. An equivalent dedi (which means ONLY you get the resources...) is like 1/3 of the price.

twin lagoon
#

BEST mari happeepoheart

minor badge
#

@twin lagoon peepoLove

nimble depot
#

CCX have dedicated vCPUs

minor badge
#

What about the likely fairly slow storage? You don't get full drives to yourself. The bandwidth is also only 20TB, which is basically nothing, especially for Minecraft.

#

And the cost is still 3x that of a dedi.

nimble depot
#

usually people would not stick around for long, if they do, we will move them to a dedi along with the premium customers

minor badge
#

Why not always treat all your customers as premium? Chances are you could easily have a dedi or two only for those who don't need entire managed machines, and just plop Ptero on them.

nimble depot
#

because Russians.

minor badge
#

Russians are customers, too

nimble depot
#

people will try anything to get a better deal (like switch providers on trial periods and such)

golden gust
#

Yes

#

No

#

Maybe

#

I don't know; Can you repeat the question?

nimble depot
#

A lot of hosting providers in russia are really scummy. You can pay one to get root access to their customer's setup (of course under the table)

golden gust
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russia

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I mean

nimble depot
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so you have a lot of "hackers" who basically pay a provider to give access and make yt videos to cover their costs and sell the build to make money

toxic bone
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one million dollars

minor badge
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I don't see what that has to do with you spending 3x what you need to.

nimble depot
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It could save money in the long run, but there is not a big enough customer base to fully switch to dedicated

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long tree
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Anyone one having an idea, how do I name NPC in double line with Citizen plugin? Thankyou!

limber knotBOT
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ask the plugin's support?

long tree
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They don' have support

limber knotBOT
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use a different plugin then thonk

untold meadow
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if the plugin doesn't support it, you're probably not going to be able to do it with the plugin

minor badge
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Citizens has a support Discord I believe.

long tree
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I mean they take too long to help. Just asked here if somebody knows

limber knotBOT
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I mean you didn't even say what plugin you are using πŸ‘€

nimble depot
elfin steppe
golden gust
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tell you

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people got their fingers in their arses more than proxi these days

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That sure sounds like throwing your money down the drain, then. The cloud is cool for enterprises, not so cool for smaller businesses with small margins of profit.

nimble depot
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we have a pretty large profit margin, should give me room to play around

limber knotBOT
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paying more and getting less sure sounds like a good business plan

golden gust
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Read the docs?

long tree
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they just told to use the command

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but not told how to

golden gust
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We don't provide support for premium plugins

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Apparently the plugin already has a help command built in

nimble depot
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I hate premium plugins, go open source or write my own

long tree
golden gust
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It is open source, just, you pay for support

long tree
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i use without paying idk how

toxic bone
golden gust
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Because they offer free builds

long tree
golden gust
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doesn't make it not "premium"

long tree
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thx

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i figured it out

elfin steppe
limber knotBOT
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I hope you are sponsoring/donating regularly to all the authors of your open source plugins/software πŸ‘€

wispy blade
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i would if i had money :p

nimble depot
wispy blade
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still better than oracle

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"support? what's that"

long tree
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What is it needed to create a floating island on sky with void?

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Like this

limber knotBOT
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either do it by hand or use a world generator plugin/mod

long tree
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of just 5*5 blocks

golden gust
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Windows, yea

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oh, nice, proxmox fixed the TPM and secure boot BS

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Just needed to add a TPM state

nimble berry
nimble depot
nimble berry
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Question though: why the heck is there a .properties TLD?

silver nexus
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Real estate?

nimble depot
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the bigger question is why .dog and .computer exist

nimble berry
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lol

silver nexus
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There are weirder ones

nimble depot
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I am probably going to register a .xxx domain

golden gust
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and we shall forever have .xxx which I don't think anybody reputable uses

silver nexus
nimble berry
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I'm torn lol

nimble depot
nimble berry
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IDK whether to switch to Windows 11 or Linux :P

nimble depot
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that TLD is loved by botnet operators actually

golden gust
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That VM already had 11 as it auto upgraded