general

[wispy blade]

idk i haven't played in a while

[magic river]

I cleared boss 180, apparently

[wispy blade]

yoo

but have you done the troll challenge?

[magic river]

It's been a minute, I don't remember

I think so though, yeah

I know what it is and I know I tried it at least

[wispy blade]

you should have this achievement then

it's fucking horrid lmao

[limber knot]

I mean I don't get the RPG "number get bigger" either so 👀

[wispy blade]

yeah

i was considering buying cookie clicker on steam, but ended up not doing that

[limber knot]

only number that matters to me right now is my download speed as I'm fighting with my network setup limiting my gigabit connection :(

and I'm unsure if paying 300€ for two routers is actually the right decision lol

[wide chasm]

Cookie Clicker can actually become kind of an active game late game, by trying to optimise building statuses and maximising golden cookies

[magic river]

I've been looking in to getting a proper network setup in my house but I don't want to do 1 Gbit

[wide chasm]

I don't do that, because, it's cookie clicker, but it's there if you want to

[magic river]

I suppose I can just run cat 8 cable and wait for switches to not by $150/port for anything better than gigabit

[limber knot]

well my main issue right now is that I can't run cables without destroying walls that are pretty much new

[magic river]

Not sure if there is a point to cat 8 though instead of running fiber

If you only cut holes near studs you can plaster in some patches and no one will ever be able to tell 😛

[limber knot]

lol, cat8 only has 40Gbps?

[magic river]

I think that's how that works, I forgot that part of shop class

cat 8 can do 40? I thought it could only do 10

40 is probably enough to do it then

[limber knot]

my issue isn't that I need to put cables through walls, my issue is that I need to run a cable through multiple floors in my families house xD

well according to this https://www.cablesandkits.com/learning-center/what-are-cat8-ethernet-cables

[magic river]

SSDs are faster than 1 gigabit though so if I want to get serious about NAS I want more than that

[limber knot]

a streamer I watch is currently installing 100Gpbs everywhere in his house xD

[magic river]

You can't do PoE with that though, unless standard cables run power wires next to the fiber

But 100 gigabit is probably good enough for the next couple decades so at least you wouldn't have to mess with it again

We've been stalled at gigabit in consumer electronics for like a decade and it looks like we're maybe going to go to 5 gigabit so we can reuse the same cables (mostly)

[limber knot]

this is apparently going to be his setup: https://i.imgur.com/jDE9wk0.png xD

[ashen cliff]

Aruba.

Looks fine tho.

[magic river]

Why does he have an "offline" network that still has connections to his online network?

[limber knot]

as far as I can tell it only has access to the storage stuff

he does work in cybersecurity so I would hope he knows what he is doing lol

[minor otter]

Started sponsoring as my contribution as I receive a lot of help here, https://github.com/BeastyBoo.

[magic river]

Oh gigabit is even older than I remembered, the powerbook G4 in 2000 had a gigabit port

I thought it took a while to get built in to things like that

[limber knot]

doesn't most stuff have 10Gbit now? or is that just on good mainboards?

[magic river]

But I guess servers were already on fiber at that point so all of these copper standards have been for workstations and home use

What boards have 10 gigabit?

[limber knot]

apparently not many

https://geizhals.eu/?cat=mbam4&xf=17258_1

[ashen cliff]

ASRack.

[limber knot]

interesting, the ASRockX470 Taichi Ultimate is only 240€ and has 10Gbps

[golden gust]

Pretty sure that it's typical that people just add in a card to the mobo given the various 10gig networking standards out there

[magic river]

gigabit was standardized in 1999 and the first computers were shipping with it in 2000

10 gigabit was standardized in 2006, still waiting...

10 gigabit over twisted pair was in 2006, over fiber was 2002 and twin-ax was 2004

[limber knot]

mfw 100Gbps switches start at 8k

[magic river]

In 2016 we got a new spec that is 10 gigabit tech but scaled down to fit in cat 5e and cat 6 cables, that's why 2.5 gigabit and 5 gigabit are a thing

[ashen cliff]

Most of the 10Gbps cards integrated onto mobos are usually bad/have issues tho...
So, if someone is doing something that actually requires the cards to do work, they avoid those.

[limber knot]

so apparently there is only one consumer-grade router which kinda does 10Gbps

(at least on geizhals so available to me )

[magic river]

There is only one 4 port switch for 5 gigabit that is less than $500 last time I looked

All the 10 gigabit ones were starting at like $800

[twin lagoon]

they're getting to 2.5gbit

on b550 iirc

[golden gust]

There is just no real consumer grade demand for it, like, you have the hobbiysts and shit who want ultra-fast internal networks for shit, but, getting gigabit to the house is something you're kinda lucky to have available if you do, at least in a good chunk of the UK and the US

[limber knot]

switches are actually pretty raesonable: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=switchgi&xf=13266_10G

[magic river]

Even for a kind of average SSD you would need 5 gigabit to keep up

If you had SSD caching in your NAS or just only SSDs then you need at least 5 gigabit for it to be worth it

HDD NAS can saturate gigabit without too much trouble

wifi is faster than ethernet in consumer gear these days

Oh wow I wonder if the US market just sucks or if the prices for these things cratered over the last 18 months

Looks like the cheapest ones on that list just came out this year so maybe things are finally moving

[ashen cliff]

I want 2.5 and 5 to be gone.

Like instant.

[limber knot]

yeah the fact that wifi can be faster than ethernet now in an avarage router is pretty insane lol

[ashen cliff]

300Mbs wifi... 100Mbps ethernet port.

[limber knot]

more like 1.75Gbps wifi, 1Gbps ports ;D

(although unfortunately openwrt can't manage more than 750Mps on my routers :S)

[magic river]

Real world wifi 6 is only like 750 megabit though

Oh wait that's for mesh routers

[limber knot]

I need to look into how to do my stuff with dd-wrt as they seem to use proprietary drivers for the switches and openwrt does it via the CPU which sucks on mine

[magic river]

For standalone ones you can get like 1.5 gigabit

dd-wrt doesn't support qualcomm stuff, iirc

[ashen cliff]

Best I can do was like 650Mbps real world with my Wifi setup.

[magic river]

I can get like 400 I think but it's very inconsistent

This is an old house though, even a single wall seems to nearly kill the signal some days

I have a cable running along the ceiling to the next room to connect to my router and have a switch at my desk to hook up my docking station, desktop, and PS5

[ashen cliff]

I have 3 APs just because of walls, but nothing can make the transitions seamless... so roaming inside the house is still a pain.

[limber knot]

do you have them on the same mobility domain?

(or however that feature is called outside of OpenWRT xD)

[ashen cliff]

I'm using OpenWRT.

Legit tried everything, nothing works.

[limber knot]

well a good chunk of devices doesn't support that I guess

[ashen cliff]

Mostly phones. Like I had luck with one of my laptops.

And nothing else.

[magic river]

I guess OpenWRT doesn't support 802.11r?

Or 802.11s if you're trying to do mesh networking but that won't be as fast

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-10-03_21-38-56.png

[limber knot]

it does

[magic river]

Huh

I've been on commercial networks where that works great

[ashen cliff]

Yeah. Commercial stuff works great.
The stuff I setup at work, works fine.

But at home... nope.

Can't do it with prosumer gear for some reason.

[limber knot]

have you tested that with stock firmware? might be some openwrt oddity

[ashen cliff]

Can't.

[limber knot]

[magic river]

Of course 802.11r gets you KRACK and... oh, I guess the newer attack didn't get a fancy name

[ashen cliff]

I got the AP with bricked firmware and the official one requires cloud management with a licence.

Aka. ain't paying for that at home.

[magic river]

bluesocket?

[limber knot]

crack it

runs

[magic river]

Oh, no, the bluesocket stuff doesn't have 802.11ax yet

Also fuck bluesocket

[ashen cliff]

ExtremeNetworks.

[limber knot]

btw what do you mean by ddwrt not supporting Qualcomm? I had it running on Qualcomm routers

[magic river]

For 802.11ax stuff they said if it's qualcomm don't even bother asking

Either that or they only support qualcomm now, forget which one it is

[limber knot]

ah, yeah, I only tested on ac

[magic river]

Didn't sound like it was a "this isn't possible right now" thing either, it was a long term "we aren't going to support this" thing

Or maybe that was openwrt... I dunno, I only look at this shit at 2am when I should be sleeping 😛

xiaomi already puts openwrt-based builds on qualcomm gear so I can't see that being a thing for long

[ashen cliff]

At least MediaKek is supported.

[limber knot]

I think the issue with openwrt and newer stuff is that they re-implement all the drivers and shit if they aren't open

dd-wrt includes propritary blobs

(or well, openwrt would need to reimplement them and I doubt people want to do that lol)

[ashen cliff]

While I like OpenWRT... sometimes I question some of their decisions when it comes to device support.

I have 4 devices that just needed to be added to the device list and would just work... PRs go unaccepted forever.
So you just have to custom build.

[magic river]

None of these routers are fast enough to go full gigabit speed with proper queuing to avoid bufferbloat

The hardware acceleration doesn't do it either so you have to use the CPU

Although I wonder if you could get away with only using the hardware for LAN and software for WAN...

[ashen cliff]

Usually the WIFI chip already has some kind of hardware acceleration, same goes for the LAN chip.

Tho, both of those are usually horribly broken and the world MAKES SURE, you buy REV 0, so you have to suffer.

[limber knot]

pretty sure the router I have (Archer C7) is able to do hardware lan stuff to get full 1Gbps if not used with OpenWRT due to the drivers not being open

at least that's what I read somewhere

[ashen cliff]

Maybe? Tho, I remember most TP-Link stuff being "bad" in general when it comes to aftermarket support with great performance.

[limber knot]

yeah I'm starting to notice that in my quest to get my full internet speed :S

[ashen cliff]

Yeah, good luck.

[magic river]

Ah I think OpenWRT is qualcomm only for 802.11ax, that's what it was

Because only qualcomm has drivers in the kernel for 802.11ax hardware that supports ap-mode

ath11k

Do they still have open firmware too?

[ashen cliff]

https://openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_available_16128_ax-wifi

[magic river]

I think for ath9k they did, not sure about later stuff

Huh, mediatek too

[limber knot]

why do they not feature external antennas anymore? :'(

[magic river]

That Belkin RT3200 looks like the way to go right now

The UniFi stuff is access point only (although if you don't need wired connections I suppose with openwrt you could make it a standalone router?) and always sold out anyway

[limber knot]

yeah, the Linksys E8450 apparently isn't available in germany

[magic river]

The linksys is the same thing as the belkin, just in a different box

[limber knot]

also I wish they would release more stuff in the original WRT design xD

[magic river]

They're made by the same company and are usually either literally identical or close to it

[limber knot]

TIL

[magic river]

Cisco sold Linksys to Belkin in 2013

They're both under Foxconn these days but still just rebadges of the same gear

[limber knot]

also TIL that the FCC publishes internal photos of everything they approve

[ashen cliff]

Yep.

Useful to find debug headers without opening the device.

[worn ember]

what cursed things are you doing now

[limber knot]

apparently I even get 800Mbps transfer speeds when accessing my network storage so maybe there really is a WAN issue with my OpenWRT setup

[warm anchor]

Pheonix do you use your own custom router software as well?

[foggy veldt]

The fcc won’t let me be

[limber knot]

I wonder if I can set it up to just not run the firewall on WAN but I don't really trust the Vodafone provided one lol

I use open source software on my routers, yes

but most stock software wouldn't even be able to do what I want (mainly wifi bridging and ad blocking)

[warm anchor]

Yeah I asked coz I do believe there are still a lot of limitations if you are using an isp

[limber knot]

I just use the ISP provided router as a modem and run my own hardware behind it

[warm anchor]

Oh I understand now

[worn ember]

they cancled the ticket sale for TI

[warm anchor]

Dick move

4 days before actual event

[worn ember]

it wasnt in their hands i think

[warm anchor]

This is entirely Valves fault

They have full control to cancel it early

They knew covid is still going and isn’t stopping anytime soon

[worn ember]

lots of places allow events again though

[warm anchor]

It’s just that they already booked the entire arena they want to make every attempt to not lose money

Idk if you were around in 2014

When they were trying to outsource talent hosting fee

By paying them a cut of their cosmetic sale

[worn ember]

which ti was that?

lol

[warm anchor]

They got call out on it and end up paying talents LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE

And they did this again this year

It was back in TI4

2014

[true canyon]

Valve works really hard to hoard money like a goddamn dragon. It's incredible what they do despite getting dozens of millions of dollars from each TI.

[worn ember]

didnt hear anything about it

[warm anchor]

Dude mbx

[worn ember]

yeah true

[warm anchor]

This is why I don’t feel bad calling them out

They held 30 millions in USD for a whole year

Interest alone would be enough to pay for the host cost

[worn ember]

prize money should be double this year

[warm anchor]

Instead they released BP early and attempted to do 4 BP a year like apex

But in apex, game is categorized for seasonal rank bracket so it makes more sense for them not for dota

I mean it’s still a 40 million dollar prize pool

[worn ember]

volvo just milking players instead of chipping in

how much is it that goes to the prize pool?

25%?

or was it 50%

[true canyon]

I thought it was 25

[worn ember]

volvo moment

only needed to drop like 500mmr to get a winstreak

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

It’s 25% ded

[worn ember]

stokbrood

[warm anchor]

So they made a cool 120m in revenue

[warm anchor]

Good night Michael

[timid schooner]

is there a worldguard flag to prevent dogs from sitting? someone has been leaving dogs in my spawn lol

[warm anchor]

You can view the NBT tag of the dog to find out who’s abusing animal

[worn ember]

/kill @a

[void void]

simply enable dog killing

[worn ember]

[void void]

they are just hecking the doggos 😦

[timid schooner]

LOL besides the dug murderer approach, no way to prevent people from making dogs sit in the first place?

[void void]

weird bug with google.com rn

try searching anything that contains a +

it removes it for some reason

[worn ember]

didnt they remove those query things?

[void void]

its not for qery

for example 2 + 2

[ancient bolt]

quote it

and/or use symbolhound

[timid schooner]

works 4 me

[void void]

does this

search bar says "https://www.google.com/search?q=2+++4"

[magic river]

Works for me, desktop and mobile Firefox

[worn ember]

works fine for me too

[magic river]

Do you have a CleanURLs extension or something similar installed?

[nimble depot]

I wonder if people would be interested in watching a camera pointed at a bunch of monitors with graphs on them

I also might make it somewhat interactive

[lament patio]

Wait ... Did they?

[golden gust]

I mean, that borked here, but, it makes sense given that it's not a proper way to express that

https://www.google.com/search?q=2%2B2

[prisma geyser]

guy

look what i found

https://mangahasu.se/goshujin-sama-to-yuku-isekai-survival-p46838.html

[magic river]

If you're going to do that at least get the good version https://www.novelupdates.com/series/goshujin-sama-to-yuku-isekai-survival/ 😛

[toxic bone]

anim

[merry talon]

lol EC2 mac mini instances cost over $750/mo

so the cost of a mac mini

I don't get it

[magic river]

If you need to run it 24/7 it might be worth getting a Mac Mini

Then again unless it's only for one developer or a small team the management and networking and on and on means if everything else is in the cloud maybe you just eat the cost

You should never need a Mac Mini 24/7 though

[true canyon]

I imagine it would just be for some compiling or testing over an hour or so?

[golden gust]

yea, I'd imagine most of the usage of a mac mini would be for CI type stuff where if you've gotta spin up a machine to build something on your existing setup it makes more sense than sitting a mac mini in the room somewhere and fighting over how to access it, etc

not that that pricing isn't fricken crazy, but, I mean, you compare the costs of renting a dedi for a year, add the AWS badge on it and you're probs there about

[chrome cosmos]

exam in 5 mins 💦

[lean kiln]

use kotlin if you want to use kotlin

otherwise don't

[warm anchor]

If you have to ask, don’t

[golden gust]

I love Kotlin

[magic river]

Kotlin is still much nicer than Java but Java has caught up some since Java 8

[warm anchor]

(Inb4 this starts a fight)

[magic river]

And Java has and is getting some features that aren't in or will be hard to put in Kotlin

[lean kiln]

I like kotlin as well but it's not always "better"

it has it's issues

[golden gust]

But, I'd heavily suggest getting more to grips with some of the basics like Collections, etc, before moving towards a language which isn't all that well supported in the community

jmp

I'll have you know

[lean kiln]

java is generally more stable especially when it comes to writing APIs

[golden gust]

that I implement 90% of the functionality in my plugin in extension functions

[magic river]

For a library (or a plugin?) Kotlin is at a disadvantage

There is a Kotlin feature (forgot what it is) that is really nice to have but only works with Java interfaces, not Kotlin ones for some reason

And exposing a clean Java API from Kotlin is extra work

[golden gust]

Yea, you can call Kotlin from java just fine, but, things like companion classes get... interesting...

[magic river]

And of course Kotlin is an extra dependency for your library/plugin

[golden gust]

Like, you see how horrible kotlin kinda is deep down, and ^

[magic river]

For an application I'd still use Kotlin

[lean kiln]

kotlin fixed that

[lean kiln]

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/fun-interfaces.html

they added fun interface

before you could only do it with java functional interfaces

[magic river]

For plugins or libraries unless they're meant for Kotlin users I'd probably stick to Java, so long as you can use Java 16

[golden gust]

I mean, it is fun to code with, and I find it much easier to do some stuff

it's also stupid in other areas and ain't gonna fix your fundemental knowledge gaps

[lean kiln]

it's where you can then instantiate/implement the interface like ```Runnable {
}

[golden gust]

if anything it's gonna strain them further due to how kotlin works

[magic river]

Well, if it was a private plugin I'd still use Kotlin 😛

[golden gust]

huggles Kotlin

I actually kinda miss working in it all the time

but, I mean, java is getting some nice features and shit, e.g. I've fallen in love with the instanceof thing

[magic river]

I miss Kotlin sequences all the time when I'm working with TypeScript

I suppose I could use io-ts or something but they lean heavily on the functional style and terminology, you have to buy in to the whole thing

Sequences are a neat thing from functional land that were integrated into procedural land

[golden gust]

Yea, that's my thing with Kotlin is that theres some really fricken nice stuff in there, but, especially with java 16, there is less and less of a "need" to use Kotlin

In the language is so weird in some respects

[magic river]

Even sequences are actually an example of that, they're basically streams but with batteries included

Except not quite really the same and they don't interoperate

[golden gust]

is literally the worse, but, hey, wanna deal with a collection? col[Any?] ftw!

[void void]

how do i make only one of this open?

https://i.imgur.com/u9MeAsP.png

someone help pls

my run.bat script is java -Xms2G -Xmx4G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paper.jar

thats a restart script

but restart isnt workin

[warm anchor]

#paper-help next time but for your answer. Add nogui after paper.jar @void void

[void void]

ok

Thanks a lot

[void void]

Pretty sure cat is talking about pattern matching here

Which lets you do stuff like

if(sender instanceof Player player) {
    player.kill();
}

Pattern matching removes the need for the casting you do below your if statement

[cosmic raft]

ok this game is sweet so far

[void void]

Which game are you playing?

[cosmic raft]

https://www.newworld.com/

just came out a few days ago

[void void]

Looks fun 👀

[cosmic raft]

it's so popular people are in queues to join

yea

friend was in position 800 or so in the queue earlier to join

[void void]

No

[warm anchor]

Kashi you are also playin new world

[cosmic raft]

yes

[warm anchor]

Can you give an in-depth review in a few weeks

(For me)

[cosmic raft]

it's great after just a few minutes of playing tonight

[warm anchor]

No more gta kashi?

[cosmic raft]

yes gta

[warm anchor]

Things I am looking for is how smooth the combat is and the pace

[void void]

change your if statement to

if(sender instanceof Player executor){

and remove the line you had below (Player executor = ...)

[warm anchor]

And the balance between choice in game

[cosmic raft]

combat is pretty cool so far

it feels pretty smooth

[warm anchor]

Choice as in gear/skill/reaction time/ etc

Hmmm

[cosmic raft]

easily worth the cost of it imo

[void void]

You have to get rid of your table first

[warm anchor]

Does NA have multiple server? (Or can you server hop)

[void void]

Introduced in java 15 iirc

[cosmic raft]

there's like

[warm anchor]

I will look into this later this week!

[cosmic raft]

100 US East servers

100 US West

[void void]

14* my bad

[cosmic raft]

https://www.newworld.com/en-us/support/server-status

[warm anchor]

Nice this is great

[void void]

LTT

[cosmic raft]

asking for no table is a good way to not get no table :)

[warm anchor]

Kashi I will try this game I guess I got a few free days next week

[cosmic raft]

🥳

it's really good looking so far

[warm anchor]

I guess it’s popular coz it’s really the first new mmo in decades

[nimble depot]

If I am going to ask for roles I am going to ask for cat role

[little frost]

hello im also here to ask for cat roles, ive posted in kyori cat pics 🥺 kashike

[warm anchor]

You can always donate to help paperMC as a project. I think that role can be asked for

[cosmic raft]

done

[little frost]

wee

[wispy blade]

@little frost nelson is super cute

[little frost]

❤️

lots more pictures soon when im actually alive

[wispy blade]

yes

[solid sapphire]

did wayland break nvidia drivers

[little frost]

nvidia drivers have never worked on wayland

[solid sapphire]

guess back to 384 spf

i will miss you, 15fps on nvidia drivers

also any idea on how to get entire-screen sharing to work again?, i followed the guide but no luck

maybe cuz i use gnome

[wispy blade]

my shoulders already complaining after standing on the bus with my backpack for 10 mins

net weight like 4-4.5kg

[vernal moth]

Nah, not really, it's fiiiiinnneee https://i.imgur.com/JDC07Q3.png

That was Saturday

I didn't leave desk for that while time, when I went to get food I had to be careful to not collapse, lol

Thankfully my lttstore.com insulated water bottle provided me with plenty hydration so that's good

[solid sapphire]

smh, i used to take a 10 kg backpack when i was rennovating the house

[wispy blade]

yeah that's why im confused

used to not be an issue

[solid sapphire]

you ate any water by chance

[wispy blade]

i had cow titty water

cuz uh... my vitamin D intake is laughable to say the least

[solid sapphire]

go drink bleach

[wispy blade]

no

[solid sapphire]

should fix

[vernal moth]

I don't mind chilling them, they are genuinely great

I have a new one on its way 😂

[merry talon]

lol I was thinking of getting one

but it was coming out to like $50 and without a drinking spout

so I just got one for $20 at walmart instead

[solid sapphire]

dont you love grnd wire breakingANd server shocking ya

[merry talon]

oh they literally just updated the lid lol

spot the difference

[nimble depot]

Microsoft has found my weak spot: giving me Azure for free for a few months. I like it and now I have to pay for this stuff

[vernal moth]

Yeah taxes and shipping is meh. I got the updated one too now, and I got a new lid for my old one (if you already have one you get the lid for a few bucks), will see what the difference is

I had a cheap bottle before and there's definitely a quality difference, idk, and like, it looks cool, works great and supports them, so that sounds like a great deal

[solid sapphire]

:looksoktome:

[solid sapphire]

why i dont use auto-renew

[untold copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZ8cPbKNcc

[vernal moth]

Stuff like that is why YouTube is great

In other news, drop table hosting dot com dropped a table again

https://gitlab.com/libeigen/eigen/-/issues/2336

The repo is just gone 😂

https://gitlab.com/libeigen/eigen

[quasi valley]

lmao

[void void]

[ashen cliff]

[wispy blade]

[merry talon]

[elfin steppe]

[void void]

hello

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon

[untold copper]

day #119 of trying to get abs: holy fuck today's workout was a KILLER. I did burpees, then high plank raises, then side to side shuffles, then mountain climbers and then burpees all over again. Repeat for 5 rounds. Then to finish I did a 2 movement 4 round finisher. I am dead. it was just 50 mins of cardio but i am DEAD.

[waxen panther]

has it really been 120 days

[wispy blade]

no

WHY

[golden gust]

git gud skrub

[elfin steppe]

they finally brought it back

[wispy blade]

i'm talking about the 727

not the word count

[untold copper]

yes almost

[remote pelican]

Uh guys, is there anyway to change the user profile folder name on windows?

[minor otter]

😮

[mental meadow]

Yeah but it's super annoying

There are guides online but you gotta change a bit of registry stuff

[olive marlin]

There's one way which always works - reinstall Windows.

[toxic bone]

wysi

[crisp sinew]

Hello
Is there any plugin that reduce tnt damage for bedwars

[whole prawn]

sounds like that would probably be a config option of whatever plugin youre using

[crisp sinew]

i have check the plugin config there is config for the blast duration but not for the damge

[worn ember]

Probably not then. Maybe another plugin that can do it tho

[heady spear]

@untold meadow day 1 of getting abs: today I laid in bed until 2pm and then decided to get dressed to go buy cinnamon buns

am I doing this right?

[wide chasm]

Yes, perfect

[quasi valley]

did you only buy or also eat the cinnamon buns

[little frost]

dang at least you got up

[toxic bone]

day one of getting abs:

[untold meadow]

starting the day right 💪 😤

[left swift]

Kezz do you know what ESEA is?

[untold meadow]

i have not heard of it no

[left swift]

Alright

The team I'm playing tonight has someone named kezz too so I was wondering maybe its u

[untold meadow]

an imposter kezz ?!

[left swift]

Time to sue

[little frost]

this kezz is best kezz

[twin lagoon]

best kezz

[heady spear]

I have to. It’s national cinnamon bun day!

[untold meadow]

uwu <3

[heady spear]

Best holiday apart from Fat Tuesday

[golden gust]

best kezz = worse kezz, prove me wrong

[heady spear]

Kezz is ok

[golden gust]

City you slut ❤️

[heady spear]

Hello my love

Why does one bleach their asshole and is that something that should be encouraged?

Please discuss in small groups

[left swift]

I'll eat ur cinnamon buns city

[heady spear]

Eat me xx

[quasi valley]

We do not condone cannibalism

[wide chasm]

grabs ban hammer

[heady spear]

Condone me

@quasi valley i miss u papi

[rose abyss]

How many players can 1.17.1 hold?

[heady spear]

When are we doing another asmr call?

[rose abyss]

With an i9

[heady spear]

At least 3

[mild rune]

Maybe even 4

[rose abyss]

For real i mean

[untold meadow]

"an i9" refers to like a bazillion processors

[heady spear]

It can for sure hold at least 3 players

[rose abyss]

I9 9900k

[untold meadow]

dedicated?

[rose abyss]

Yes

[untold meadow]

at least three then

[mild rune]

[rose abyss]

Oh funny guys here

[heady spear]

Thanks

[mild rune]

You do stand up?

[untold meadow]

i mean it depends on like a billion other things - youre the one who is most equipped to answer the question

plugins, ram, other hardware, load, etc, etc

it's pointless giving out any estimate without complete knowledge, and even then you'd be better off just testing it yourself

[quasi valley]

and what kind of players. it could for example hold 100 normal players, but only half a citymonstret

[heady spear]

Stop fat shaming me

[left swift]

I have an i9 9900k how much ram can my server hold please answer in the form of a question

[quasi valley]

I would never

[mild rune]

Seven?

[heady spear]

Seven is a bit much

[left swift]

Sometimes

[mild rune]

My bad

[quick pasture]

According to intel 128GB

[heady spear]

Not since 1.12 tbh

[left swift]

Gosh ram has been so useless since 1.12

I cant believe blizzard broke minecraft

[mild rune]

Smh blizzard

[heady spear]

Kenny daddy

[mild rune]

I only run my servers on 512mb

[heady spear]

When are you coming over

[left swift]

City

[quasi valley]

only if you still have cinnamon buns left

[heady spear]

Got a new tail for u uwu

Of course I do

[quasi valley]

okay nevermind

[little frost]

😳

[toxic bone]

Kenny is now in the process of filing a Restraining Order

[mild rune]

Imagine not having one on hand

[heady spear]

Kenny pls restrain me and order me around

[quick pasture]

u ok city

[mild rune]

City wtf

[toxic bone]

☎️

[quick pasture]

take a cinnamon bun

[toxic bone]

can i have one

i need to get abs

[quasi valley]

if you insist

[quick pasture]

if thats all u eat today it will be ok

[toxic bone]

Ok!

[left swift]

That's not how dieting works

[mild rune]

you sure?

[left swift]

Yes

U dont gain muscle mass from not eating

[mild rune]

eat muscles

you are what you eat

[toxic bone]

you do

before eating: 🧏‍♂️
after eating: 🦧

[mild rune]

damn if I eat I'm not deaf?

nice

[marble lark]

Y'all know how to fix when IntelliJ it dies overnight and suddenly decides to not resolve all your imports :/

[wide chasm]

Tried invalidate caches and restart?

[marble lark]

yep

[limber knot]

tried not using kotlin?

runs

[marble lark]

well I did leave it on the usual settings when I did that

[toxic bone]

yeah you can try it at home

[marble lark]

I didn't check the "Invalidate file system" thing

[toxic bone]

don't eat for 3 months and you go deaf

[mild rune]

go dead*

ftfy

[toxic bone]

Fifty

[marble lark]

This is just a fork I didn't write the original project ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[toxic bone]

intellij needs a break that's all

[olive marlin]

Should switch to a more competent editor, like neovim.

[mild rune]

just use notepad :)

[silver nexus]

You guys don’t use notepad?

[olive marlin]

At least Notepad++ please.

[marble lark]

Y'all probably gonna kill me for this but I only got IntelliJ for gradle and kotlin before that I used Eclipse so I haven't used IntelliJ that much :P

[mild rune]

nah I use ios notes app

[silver nexus]

That’s a good idea

[marble lark]

I did write a C executable that said "Fuck you" to whoever ran it in notepad

that's about it

[wide chasm]

Could try to check project structure and see if IntelliJ has resolved everything properly

Actually, that "Kotlin not configured" at the top is worrying

[marble lark]

aight will see if that works thanks

[marble lark]

I did notice that too but IntelliJ's fix involved changing something in buildSrc so I didn't do it

[wide chasm]

Project structure should show if Kotlin is there or not afaik, so I guess if you go there you can check if IntelliJ has Kotlin resolved

[marble lark]

aight thanks

oddly enough even the main branch (Which I didn't touch in my fork other than keeping it up to date with upstream) is affected by this issue too

[silver nexus]

Haha my school put up service blockers

[toxic bone]

use the text editor on linux

the command line one

nano I think

[limber knot]

god, why is the HP website so shit. They are unable to list any drivers for their stuff -.-

[toxic bone]

hp moment

[marble lark]

phew at least it can still compile

was worried for a second there that it was entirely lost lel

[wide chasm]

IntelliJ doesn't really interfere with compilation, it just leaves that to the build system

[marble lark]

thank goodness for that

[mild rune]

I hate HP's site too. Had to download their dumb remote console software for their IPMI stuff since modern browsers are too secure for it to work properly

[void void]

I'm in love with this theme

[mental meadow]

[warm anchor]

[mental meadow]

Eternity uwu

[warm anchor]

Good morning/afternoon aurororororora

[sturdy island]

where can i download older versions from Paper

[lament patio]

papermc.io, downloads, "legacy" on the bottom

[wispy blade]

or use the api

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow BEST kezzzezeezezezez

[waxen panther]

@untold meadow BEST kezzzezeezezezez

[untold meadow]

best @twin lagoon AND best @waxen panther

[mental meadow]

the bestestest

[untold meadow]

and best @mental meadow

[twin lagoon]

[untold meadow]

[void void]

@mental meadow can you add the hacktoberfest tag to waterfall too? 🙃

[mental meadow]

for real? 😄

smh steam keeps crashing when I want to download smth

[marble lark]

what ya tryin to download

lel I only really use Steam for TF2

[mental meadow]

doesnt matter what I download

the moment I hit install it ffreezes

[neat frigate]

where can i ask a questions regarding a minecraft plugin problem that i'm programming rn?

[void void]

#paper-dev

[neat frigate]

thx

[void void]

are you on the beta channel?

[marble lark]

sounds rough

Steam moment

[mental meadow]

Yeah, but downgrading to the normal version didnt work either, I'll try reinstalling it now

fun, even after reinstalling

[void void]

does steam have a crash log?

[marble lark]

iirc you have to make it generate one

[glad bison]

My native language is Russian. Right now I'm in a debate with one guy, who is also a native Russian speaker, about using "in short" or "in total" in English. Context is provided in the screenshot.

We need an opinion of a native English speaker to help us solve this. Which one do you think is correct? Maybe we are both wrong. I feel like there is a better way to say this.

[olive marlin]

Maybe Summary:?

[marble lark]

If that's a summary before/after a main text In short would be correct

[marble lark]

yeah what he said

[olive marlin]

But yeah, IMO 'in short` is also OK.

[glad bison]

What about in total? Does it sound right to you?

[wispy blade]

no

[plucky sparrow]

You don’t sound right

Neither do your variables

[wispy blade]

@plucky sparrow says the one who used mega to store projects

[glad bison]

Thanks a lot

[plucky sparrow]

Shut up

Mega works fine

All it takes is a drag and drop

[wispy blade]

so does github

[plucky sparrow]

Shut

It

You used a switch as a command manager

[wispy blade]

it's the best alternative i knew 😤

[plucky sparrow]

👹

[tropic flame]

based switch command manager

[wispy blade]

exactly ^

[void void]

based unecessary overhead and abstracted frameworks

[wispy blade]

next project is gonna be a naml parser and then elshout

[void void]

naml?

naomi another markup language?

[warm anchor]

TL;DR

[wispy blade]

naomi's altered markup language

[void void]

why

[wispy blade]

why not

[void void]

that's not a good reason

[wispy blade]

it is

real reason: i wanna annoy kids + i wanna learn how to write a parser and a library around it

[trim steeple]

is worldgen multithreaded at all?

[wispy blade]

afaik yes

[trim steeple]

do you have any resources I could cite

trying to prove some nerd wrong

[wispy blade]

check the patches folders https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper

[void void]

#paper-help message

[potent fossil]

henlo

[void void]

hi simple

[potent fossil]

how y'all

[warm anchor]

not bad how's simple?

[void void]

Halloween pfp? 👀

[warm anchor]

yes yes

[mental meadow]

Hallorien

[warm anchor]

I just announce halloween stuff in my discord so I felt like its a good time to change

[serene bolt]

yes, it is very multi threaded

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/patches/server/0799-Reduce-worldgen-thread-worker-count-for-low-core-cou.patch is a patch that alters the amount of threads it uses (proving its threaded), https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-21w38a talks about how they recently significantly raised the amount of threads it can use, and what the old limit was (proving its threaded and has been)

[warm anchor]

we also got dis!!

[trim steeple]

thank you!

thats a lot of sources just so I can prove this guy wrong hehe

[serene bolt]

I know what that's like :P

[true canyon]

@warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor Ceb will play!

[worn ember]

[true canyon]

@worn ember @worn ember @worn ember Ceb will play!

[warm anchor]

LOL

the meme

[true canyon]

This concludes my daily dota update

[warm anchor]

I will probably wtch some TI game

thought a lot of my friends said the meta isnt really good right now so game may be really imbalanced

but who knows

[worn ember]

Ill probably watch upper bracket

[warm anchor]

I mean final is on Sunday so I can watch

I do have to wake up really early though as I am in NA timezone

[worn ember]

They released a patch a few weeks before TI

[warm anchor]

so I will need to wake up like 6 AM

[true canyon]

I'll watch too much. This is first TI with neutral items!

[worn ember]

It's not very balanced rn

[warm anchor]

you think so too?

I got a bunch of friends in like immortal bracket and they said the game is desided really early

sometiems even by draft you can alrady tell whos will be winning for sure

[worn ember]

Tiny Io completely broken. Dusa, Sven etc also broken af

[warm anchor]

it will be a repeat of Mirana? the most banned hero in TI8 ?

coz she can be played as mid, safe or offlane

[true canyon]

Tiny Io is great to watch

[waxen panther]

TI isn't real

[olive marlin]

RIP FB, insta, WhatsApp... https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/www.facebook.com

[true canyon]

I want to watch nonsense. I want wild plays.

[worn ember]

I got completely dumpstered by io tiny combo last week haha

[true canyon]

I want something as dumb as carry Io this year.

[warm anchor]

lol

[void void]

was about to post that too lol

[worn ember]

Yeah those are the best

Did you see that wyvern mid match?

[vernal moth]

Let's celebrate!

[true canyon]

Machine gun wyvern?

[worn ember]

Yeah I think so

Silencer mid is also completely bonkers

2 spell and u dead

[true canyon]

Heroes going out of control out of normal role is great joy

[worn ember]

Earthshaker safelane

Also great fun

[little frost]

chinese internet so powerful

[olive marlin]

I agree, but there's one issue with it. Sites won't load trackers or reach FB api, so some won't load or load very slowly sadly.

[void void]

ghostery/ubp?

[olive marlin]

I wish people moved away from messenger, then I could have nothing tied to FB.

[warm anchor]

yes

[worn ember]

I barely use messenger

If people need me they can use discord cx

[warm anchor]

ded use discord for inRL??

[void void]

signal >

[worn ember]

Wait is gh not doing Octoberfest anymore?

Hacktoberfest

[vernal moth]

What has github to do with it?

It's digital ocean that's doing it

[warm anchor]

good luck getting your parent who can barely use iMessage to use that

[void void]

👍 already did that

[warm anchor]

and good luck getting your parent's friend who can barely answer phonecall to use that

[ashen cliff]

I blame Cisco.

As always.

[void void]

I mean, my grandparents figured it out ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[olive marlin]

I blame cursed krusic setup.

[worn ember]

Has it always been?

[olive marlin]

Yes.

[worn ember]

Idk never participated beforr

[olive marlin]

Imagine not wanting the satisfaction to decline planting a tree and choosing a shirt and stickers instead.

[vernal moth]

I actually like the shirts and wear them frequently

Never outside the house tho, just when going to hackathons where people could understand it, lol

Been wearing the 2020 one today, like that the most

[marble lark]

I think git is lagging my PC lmao

never thought I'd ever say that

[untold copper]

shirts bad

i hate collar

fite me

[marble lark]

right collars feel ticklish on me for some reason

[void void]

facebook dns servers seem to have shat the bed

always fun

[trim steeple]

my god

[vernal moth]

It's not DNS

It's worse

Part of their network disappeared from BGP

Including those authorative DNS servers

[void void]

how does that even happen

[vernal moth]

Idk, BGP is a black box to me

Somebody published a bad entry?

[trim steeple]

I know china has been messing with BGP lately trying to see what they can do, rerouting global traffic to them. could be related?

[vernal moth]

Nah

[trim steeple]

if not them, another country trying to mess with it

[vernal moth]

Internet isn't that voulnerable thankfully

More like, disgruntled Facebook NetOps engineer or something

Or somebody did an oopsie

[trim steeple]

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/10/30/china-hijacking-internet-traffic-using-bgp-claim-researchers/#:~:text=China has been accused of,as autonomous systems (AS).

in this instance, more likely to be some screwup somewhere

[warm anchor]

I love this.

[void void]

https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1445057707166289927

Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog)

Facebook's status page is also down here

Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 4:06 PM

and this is why you don't host status pages on your main infra

[limber knot]

god I hate windows. My sister managed to corrupt her new laptop's windows install by using a touch screen pen in edge...

[worn ember]

You say that yet if one of those DNS services go down half the internet is unreachable

We had it happen earlier this year even

[quick halo]

Shame half the internet is crammed into a couple of CDNs 😅

[vernal moth]

Well, it's more complicated than that DED

And it's not actively malicious

[worn ember]

Ofc it is. But that was still the result

Malicious or not

[faint crystal]

did anything besides facebook owned services die?

[vernal moth]

I expect DNS to die around the world because they are basically getting ddosd right now

Because failures are only cached 5 minutes

Some servers I have access to the logs already see giant spikes

[warm anchor]

oh shit

[faint crystal]

instagram meme pages posting on downdetector because insta is down kekw

wait whats bgp

[vernal moth]

The backbone of the internet

[void void]

magic black box that does routing stuff

[fast scarab]

two very different answers xD

[fallen oracle]

Mini, is there kind of status page that covers what's going on and what the current state of it is?

[void void]

facebook has a status page

but it's down too

[worn ember]

Helpful

[fallen oracle]

[void void]

this is why you don't host your statuspage on your main infra

[vernal moth]

I think you can somehow query BGP changes

[faint crystal]

[vernal moth]

But unless you own a large DNS I don't think you can

[left swift]

I always know when facebook is down cuz my mom will call me asking for help

[vernal moth]

So best you can do is follow NetOps people on Twitter 😂

[quick halo]

Some internet exchanges provide a thing called a 'looking glass' that lets you poke around with information about the internet routing.

[void void]

https://discordstatus.com/

discord is already showing increased api response rates

[fallen oracle]

Ahh so did the attack just start?

[vernal moth]

Not sure why that would affect discord

Other than more traffic

And it's not looking like an attack

[void void]

^ that's what i meant

[vernal moth]

Just somebody at facebooks neteng crew did an oopsie

[quick halo]

Increased chatter about facebook in various discords :p

[void void]

pretty big oopsie

[vernal moth]

It's a small change

CloudFlare people saying they had to scale up stuff already ^^

[fallen oracle]

I'm mainly just seeing Facebook related stuff down, lol.

Oh they did? On their status page?

[vernal moth]

No, on Twitter

Nothing else is down

It's just that DNS traffic is greatly amplified

[fallen oracle]

Ahh

[marble lark]

the best part is neither are wrong ;)

[vernal moth]

Free wifi in Munich, 150% spike in DNS traffic

https://stats.ffmuc.net/d/tlvoghcZk/doh-dot?orgId=1&refresh=1m

[void void]

https://twitter.com/notshenetworks/status/1445058757671673868

shenetworks (@notshenetworks)

I just had a maintenance window to update some BGP routes and you’ll never guess what happened

Likes

199

Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 4:10 PM

[fallen oracle]

Oh yeah Mini, I see that spike.

[vernal moth]

And like, that's a really small network and it's proportionally often used by nerds so less Facebook traffic

[fallen oracle]

Makes sense. Would be cool to see a grafana/similar to cloudflare

[vernal moth]

I just though of something: this most likely is the longest free time period Facebook moderators ever had 😂 😂

[marble lark]

sad

[fallen oracle]

It looks like it's still slowly going up.

And it's from an attack on Facebook's DNS or what?

[vernal moth]

No

No attack on anything

Just a misconfiguration

Love how you can see the traffic go down 😂

[quick halo]

Like a cliff edge 😁

[vernal moth]

That's the Amsterdam internet exchange

[fallen oracle]

Ohhh

[vernal moth]

Grx is roaming, this is mobile traffic most likely

[quick halo]

LINX Manu/Lon/Scot show similar.

[fallen oracle]

Ahh yeah so this looks like it was all over the past hour. That's a pretty big spike.

[quick halo]

Almost a 100G drop 🤣

[whole prawn]

in this episode of "What the fuck Windows"
my clipboard has just randomly stopped working for no reason

[wispy blade]

who needs a clipboard

[whole prawn]

windows users clearly dont

according to microsoft

[quick halo]

Was it the Facebook™ Clipboard?

[chrome cosmos]

ayo WhatsApp facebook down

[fallen oracle]

So yeah big dip then went back up and they just had another small dip.

[wispy blade]

made national news here lol

[fallen oracle]

Really?

[wide chasm]

Literally everything makes national news here

[void void]

^

[fallen oracle]

Ahh

[wispy blade]

nothing happens in nl

and everything that does happen, hapoens either in the hague or brabant

[wide chasm]

Or Urk

[chrome cosmos]

i know whatsapp went down cause the website didn't work

web.whatsapp.com

[quick halo]

Whatsapp notified me on the phone by going "Your WiFi isn't working, switch to mobile data pls"

Lies, all lies.

[wispy blade]

barely anything happens on urk tho @wide chasm

[wide chasm]

Well, it's always the same thing that happens "Urk people are angry"

[void void]

I learned something very shocking a while ago

Urk's vaccination rate is 25%

Was expecting like 2.5%

[wide chasm]

I'm not surprised

Well, yes, higher than expected lol

[vernal moth]

Apparently they need to get physical access to the BGP routers to fix stuff cause everything else is down

[warm anchor]

who’s gonna be that poor engineer driving all the way over

[limber knot]

ah yes the poor individual engineer

kinda like santa claus

goes to a dozen datacenters in one night

[warm anchor]

[vernal moth]

I don't understand much about BGP but they don't need them in every DC, they most likely have central ones, right?

You know more about this shit than I do night, lol

[warm anchor]

jokes on you night is the one driving over rn

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/MalwareTechBlog/status/1445067221051478021?s=19

MalwareTech (@MalwareTechBlog)

Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp are all down due to a BGP configuration error, which means it's only a matter of time before someone tweets a pew pew map screenshot and claims it's a global cyber attack.

Retweets

140

Likes

483

Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 4:44 PM

Lmao

Check reply

[void void]

https://cybermap.kaspersky.com/

just take a screenshot of this bad boy

and get free likes and followers

[quick halo]

The classic engineer with the rollover cable.

Dynamic logins broken too "what's the local password again?"

[fallen oracle]

I went to the website but I don't see any lines going to the country of Facebook???

[wide chasm]

Sounds like an easy Twitter bot: check down detector for spikes -> take picture of map -> create tweet

[vernal moth]

It's a meme glare

[fallen oracle]

It's just like SpigotDrama.

Yeah I was making a joke

DOH is still going up.

[potent fossil]

Doing alright, I'm pretty tired and miss my own bed lol. Not ready to be on an airplane again ngl but oh well

[warm anchor]

Awww I hope you get home soundly

[vernal moth]

Oh lmao

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9MXQ1-3auoYJ:https://engineering.fb.com/2021/05/20/networking-traffic/peering-automation/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Would be funny if there related

[ashen cliff]

Nah. Just blame Cisco.

[warm anchor]

Just blame that one new intern

[fallen oracle]

Taking bets on if someone is getting fired over this or not.

[ashen cliff]

Probably not.

Also, how did the drop table hosting thing work out?
Or are they still looking for the table?

[warm anchor]

If there is someone everyone hates in the office, that will be the guy

[fallen oracle]

Lol https://twitter.com/Flickerx28/status/1445061971011948549

Lucas (@Flickerx28)

@Facebook

Retweets

684

Likes

3642

Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 4:23 PM

[void void]

still looking

[fallen oracle]

Lol there's some conspiracy that they planned this because an interview with the whistleblower was about to go live so they are trying to mitigate it.

[warm anchor]

Going live ON Facebook

[fallen oracle]

Your oracle server still running?

[warm anchor]

Yes

[fallen oracle]

Awesome!

[warm anchor]

I managed to bypass all catches

[fallen oracle]

Hmm?

[warm anchor]

so there was this thing they may disable your instance on 60th day

And you have to remake

From backup works

And there is also storage if you allocate all 200G you may get charged (simple got this)

But otherwise it works perfectly

[fallen oracle]

I think I did like 150 total.

I just passed the grace period too

And still running thankfully

[warm anchor]

I think they only disable either the node is full or they just don’t like you coz I know quite a few that don’t have any issue @fallen oracle

I will be going to 120th day soon (I remake once) so we will see

[fallen oracle]

Yeah I have MCBanners running on one but I don't give it full resources

[worn ember]

omg its glare 👀

[void void]

https://twitter.com/discord/status/1445082592219484172?s=21

Discord (@discord)

having a good time being online

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Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 5:45 PM

that's a first

[worn ember]

that one time its not them

and they already shittalking

https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1445073386061717507

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech)

the world if Facebook stayed down forever

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Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 5:08 PM

[wide chasm]

Also Discord

[worn ember]

everyone busy typing how fb is down

[void void]

Apparently that's something they can easily toggle

[ancient bolt]

of course it is

[toxic bone]

lo

[marble lark]

if(!is_notifications_enabled) return;

[mortal zinc]

l

[void void]

Java naming conventions bro!!!

[wispy blade]

who says this is java?

might as well be cpp!

[marble lark]

I tagged it as javascript so I don't bother :P

[marble lark]

you have no idea how much I obsessively stick to them xd

[tropic flame]

i stick to java naming conventions even in languages that don't use them

because fuck those languages

who thought snake case was cool?

[wide chasm]

I just follow whatever's popular for the language

[worn ember]

try C# conventions lol

Just uppercase every word

[tropic flame]

Hungarian notation 🤮

buhduhbuh i gotta precede every interface with an I!!!

[marble lark]

C# conventions are also pretty nice tbh

[void void]

wait there's more languages than java and python??

[marble lark]

yeah!!

xd

[wide chasm]

Yeah, Java and Python had a baby and got JavaScript

[worthy geode]

just don't use kebab-case, its ugly 😦

[worn ember]

i dont like the private field convention

[marble lark]

never thought I'd hear js being compared to Python

[worn ember]

Something _something

[void void]

i guess kotlin is a result of incest

runs

[marble lark]

I can somewhat see why Kotlin is liked by quite a few even though it's not what I'd write anything in honestly

[marble lark]

that's horrific

[worn ember]

naming conventions of properties are also weird

public Something Something {get; private set;}

[tropic flame]

yeah lmao just throw the private keyword in and call it a day?

[wide chasm]

You should read the JetBrains style guide: class variables are prefixed with "our" and local variables prefixed with "my".

[tropic flame]

this is just a habit coming over from C/C++ where definitions are made in headers and developers are too blind to look at two files at once

[marble lark]

I guess the weirdest naming convention would be C though since it's kind of a gigantic mix between snake_case, PascalCase and lowerCamelCase

[tropic flame]

understandably, but

translating the habit to C# is stupid

[marble lark]

so technically its naming scheme is C#, Java and Python all at once

[worn ember]

class variables are communists while local scope is capitalist

[marble lark]

fucking hell you beat me to it

[wide chasm]

Yes, we should all fully support global variables /s

[worn ember]

just make it var /s

[marble lark]

Pointer insanity intensifies

[toxic bone]

No more java

[wispy blade]

ok then

let's replace it with Elshout

[worn ember]

yuck

[toxic bone]

we should all use scratch

[marble lark]

Elshout Stack Machine

[toxic bone]

it's efficient and easy

[marble lark]

ngl that's a pretty decent name

[worn ember]

sounds like some dutchies last name

[marble lark]

no bro we should all write in assembly

[wispy blade]

the compiler or?

[marble lark]

no more complaints about optimization

[wispy blade]

it is

[marble lark]

?

[marble lark]

It's named after someone called Rene Elshout

[wispy blade]

you wanna write the elshout compiler in assembly? gl

[marble lark]

only Naomi knows who that is :P

[worn ember]

compile some kaas

[marble lark]

no that was a joke directed at someone else

why would we write a compiler when a half assed interpreter suffices

[wispy blade]

TRUE

[worn ember]

seems like instagram is struggling too

[ripe sphinx]

insta's part of the FB outage

[worn ember]

altho it still loads content eventually

[worn crest]

since 3h...

[worn ember]

worked fine for me before

[worn crest]

nah its only cached. I cant even visit instagram.com on pc

[willow robin]

Yea issues have been randomly popping up, some people have still been able to use it until recently while others haven't been able to for hours 😪 Facebook, insta, whatsapp, and occulus are down

[wispy blade]

my friends and i were discussing stocks and then one of em was like lol let's build a bot to trade crypto

naml parser's gotta wait ^^;

[limber knot]

there are pretty good open source crypto trading frameworks already

doesn't mean that you will make any money though if your strategy is shit lol

[void void]

are you even legally allowed to buy stocks/crypto?

[faint crystal]

yea how tf you gon test it

[wispy blade]

can't

:p

[limber knot]

you can legally buy crypto? lol

[void void]

you can't?

[limber knot]

(ok I guess at least in Germany it's just a normal asset like any other "physical" asset like art too)

[void void]

Thank you twilio

[wispy blade]

i'm not 18 yet so it's gonna be hard to legally buy crypto

[twin lagoon]

sure

you don't have to buy it through a public exchange

[hollow rock]

bogos binted?

[cunning raft]

ok

[hollow rock]

good point