general

[plucky sparrow]

Fair

[fossil patio]

jroy

is typing

[cunning raft]

step 1: bring up music bots being shut down
step 2: someone brings it up again in 12 hours
step 3: repeat
step 5:

[plucky sparrow]

Well I had no idea anyone talked about it earlier

[formal turret]

i'll remind next

[merry talon]

hey did you guys know they're cracking down on music bots?

[void void]

really?

first time i've heard that

[warped pelican]

me 2

[frank otter]

same here

[ashen cliff]

Never heard of that.

[meager tusk]

Good.

[worn ember]

They've always been doing that
Its against youtubes ToS to only play audio and to not use their own embed

I'm surprised it even lasted that long

they even change their api's every couple of months to constantly break yt downloaders

[untold copper]

day #97 of trying to get abs (yesterday): no exercise
day #98 of trying to get abs (today): did 55 mins of cardio. never again.

[void void]

gg

https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/13/22671182/mozilla-default-browser-windows-protections-firefox?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

👀

[tropic flame]

Youtube's API normally lets API-based software to stream their content, but not for commercial reasons

which was what Rythm was doing with their premium plan

[merry talon]

sweet, MS can fuck right off with that

[worn ember]

@warm anchor casual overwatch case (it spells DOG btw)

[wind geyser]

Tbh. I want to make a bot that will react with all the kekw’s I have when someone posts in any of the servers I’m in.

[brave radish]

but the ToS is lame

[worn ember]

no u

[warm anchor]

Lol

[prime hawk]

can 1.17 paper builds be called stable as of now or is 1.16.5 still the preferable version?

[worn crest]

yes

[ancient bolt]

been stable for a long time

[prime hawk]

thanks ❤️

[austere ivy]

day 100 coming up soon

[brave radish]

so ViaFabric can run on the client, right? and, in that case, does it let the client join things newer than itself or older?

[prime hawk]

btw, are there any known dupes on the latest 1.16.5 builds?

[potent fossil]

not that we know of...if you find one then report it in #869651180698099732

those aren't shared publicly for a reason, as paper tries to fix valid ones asap

[prime hawk]

just wanted to confirm, i was stressed about rolling in the 1.17 update asap, since someone had told me there are some confirmed.

[potent fossil]

??

[merry talon]

ladies and gentlemen, my mother

[potent fossil]

im sorry sweepy

😔

[tropic flame]

i won't say anything cuz it's your mother

[vernal moth]

My condolences, is it treatable with actual studies or is it terminal already?

[tropic flame]

but

h m m

[prime hawk]

someone said that 1.16.5 has dupes, and I was stressed about changing to 1.17.1 as soon as possible

[merry talon]

stage 4

[potent fossil]

...who said that? im not aware of any, only core team / maintainers, possibly dev team too would know it i guess as well as whoever reported it

but valid ones, paper fixes asap

so..., just stay updated

[vernal moth]

1.16.5 is less stable and has more bugs than 1.17.1, we advice everybody to upgrade asap

[potent fossil]

but yea go to 1.17

its been ready

[brave radish]

(and if your plugins aren't, they probably never will)

[potent fossil]

theres a chance they will run anyway, just try them

[untold copper]

yeeeeeee

idk what to do on day 100 tho lol

[vernal moth]

May I suggest a giant hamburger, a bag of chips and a nice beer?

[untold copper]

oh also, started The Last Of Us Part 2

[vernal moth]

Skip the beer, forgot your age

[potent fossil]

15 lol

[untold copper]

idk i've not exactly been maintaining the no sugar thing

plus i had a hamburger like 4 days back....

kurgejnbhlawekugj

[brave radish]

now I want a giant hamburger

[untold copper]

1 large hamburger it is

on day 100

[brave radish]

preferably with bacon

[vernal moth]

Bbq beacon cheese

[potent fossil]

am now down 51 pounds (23.1 kilo)

[vernal moth]

Nice

Am down 30 from my max

[untold copper]

im loving the new UI design lol it feels really great, the character movements are a bit klunky tho, and i think they forgot to add weight to rocks cos in the cutscenes you see people kicking around rocks like its paper

[untold copper]

whats your like overall weight

[potent fossil]

im targetting to be down 30 or so from max by like 2 more months

[vernal moth]

Whenever I see images of me at my max, I don't even regonize myself

[untold copper]

mine was 54-55kg last i checked

[vernal moth]

Am about 80 now

Will go back down to 75 once I start going swimming again

[potent fossil]

started at 288 lb (130 kg), current 236.6 lb (107.3 kg), and goal is 180 lb (81.5 kg or so)

[untold copper]

I see

oh also mini about the body fat

I have 7.7% body fat

[potent fossil]

you need to bulk for them abs then sir

[untold copper]

7.7 is prolly wrong right

like i cannot have that less body fat smh

[potent fossil]

7.7% should have clearly visible abs

[untold copper]

e x a c t l y

[potent fossil]

so im assuming thats an underestimate

[untold copper]

i knew it

i measured something wrong

[vernal moth]

When I look at pictures like this, I always wondered how I didn't realize how much weight I gained, it's so obvious if I compare side by side now, but I didn't realize back then

[potent fossil]

yeah 😫

[untold copper]

thats a thicc hand

[vernal moth]

7.7% body fat? Wat

[potent fossil]

hes def not lol

[untold copper]

lol

prolly like 10-12% then

[vernal moth]

I mean, he's a kid and he's small

But still

Am 20-21% right now, lol

And I don't think I can go below 18%

[untold copper]

I shall check again

tomorrow

cos its 2 am

[potent fossil]

I just hit 29.9% 🥳 have been 30+ for too long 😫 i can't wait to hit overweight and stop being obese jfc, dont know how i let that happen

well i do, food

but ima pretend i dont

[untold copper]

I've played too much the last of us today

[vernal moth]

Sub 10% is like body builder level btw

[untold copper]

it dont think it'll be over 15% in any case

[vernal moth]

Like, at that point you start eating away the fat between your internal organs that protect them

[potent fossil]

the visceral fat

im eating that shit away too rn tho 😎 although i need to kek

[untold copper]

gimple what do you even do

to burn fat

i has lot of fat on the belly which is why no abs visible :(

[potent fossil]

i literally just walk around my college campus and count my calories

[worn crest]

thats kinda huge

[potent fossil]

but i have a lot of weight to lose

[untold copper]

thats what she said-

[potent fossil]

so it just kinda burns

[untold copper]

hmMM

[worn crest]

[potent fossil]

it'll slow down eventually

[untold copper]

i've burned all the like obvious fat

[vernal moth]

https://www.builtlean.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/body-fat-photos-1.jpg

Look at this stuff

[untold copper]

cant figure out how to get that last layer off

[vernal moth]

Sub 10 doesn't look healthy at all, lol

[potent fossil]

you pre much just keep doing what you're doing, it's just...it slows down a lot, so it's going to take a while

[worn crest]

im 15% but less muscles becuase i didnt do sports 💀

[untold copper]

ye im at like 15-20 then lmao

which is not bad

i'll take it

[vernal moth]

I pretty much look exactly like the 20% pic

[void void]

3-4 looks like if you poke them too hard you'll reach their organs

[potent fossil]

im pre much still the 30% pic, but not for long. im in a war here

[worn crest]

35 could be a normal german beertummy

[limber knot]

I'm not even on this chart lmao

[void void]

which I guess is true for every one of them, but just dpeends on how hard you poke

depends*

[worn crest]

1% needs to be added

[vernal moth]

Let's do something fun, this was me first day of uni

[untold copper]

when was that

sorry but ur old

i run out of fingers to count ur age lmao

[limber knot]

what does the % even mean lol?

[vernal moth]

This was me Saturday

[untold copper]

ooooooooooooH

nice

[vernal moth]

It's like am a different person

[untold copper]

% means how much % of ur body is fat

[limber knot]

but what if you have no fat and no muscles?

[potent fossil]

ill send progress pics when i lose more 😎

[untold copper]

why the fuck do you have the shirt pocket on the right mini

[potent fossil]

snoopa it's a reflection

[untold copper]

OH

[limber knot]

lmao

[untold copper]

laterally inverted

right

[void void]

😂

[limber knot]

"how do mirrors work?"

[vernal moth]

It's double reflected cause the phone mirrors too

[untold copper]

yes

[limber knot]

wat

[untold copper]

confusion

[limber knot]

why would your phone mirror the back camera?!?

[untold copper]

reflection 1 - he look in mirror i.e. left to right
reflection 2 - phone inverts image TWICE so uh left is still right?

idk im just making stuff up at this point

[vernal moth]

Idk

[untold copper]

lemme just-

go look myself in the mirror-

and figure it out-

[vernal moth]

Anyways, I lost those 30kg by going swimming once a week, stopped drinking coke and stopped eating the deserts at work, lol

[untold copper]

ok its correct

[vernal moth]

So for me it was def the food and stuff, so I should do more about that to loose even more weight, but that seems like hella work

[limber knot]

if I lost 30kg I would die lol

[untold copper]

i basically stopped all sugar lol

[untold copper]

very sad

also idk about swimming im kinda fat-

self consciousness kicks in

[potent fossil]

idk if that phone camera actually mirrors, it's the selfie camera that mirrors (unless you turn mirroring off), so just the mirror flipped it, pocket is on left i think unless mini is just a weirdo with right sided pockets and we're all wrong here

[vernal moth]

The fuq so I know

Shirts in the washing machine

[void void]

what arm do you wear your watch on

easiest way to figure out

[vernal moth]

If I could go swimming back then with that statue, you can go to, lol

[untold copper]

n0

[vernal moth]

I also look like a bear when I swim

[potent fossil]

mini is very much a guy, doesnt even know what side his pockets are he just knows he owns a shirt with a pocket

[untold copper]

lmao

pockets are on the left

usually

[vernal moth]

The pocket is fake btw

[untold copper]

......

then forget it

[vernal moth]

That I do know

[untold copper]

whats the point of a pocket

trash

next topic

[vernal moth]

It's fashion!

[potent fossil]

ask women's pants

[untold copper]

fuck fashion i want my pocket >:(

[potent fossil]

most of those pockets are fake

[vernal moth]

I like the combination with the pink shorts tho

[untold copper]

pink shorts are weird but ok

[vernal moth]

Got them this year cause I wanted to try something new, shirt is also M when before I was wearing XL

[untold copper]

oh i just remembered-

[potent fossil]

i have some pink shorts as well but i can't wear them since i got fat af

i wanna wear those again

[untold copper]

i finished a whole packed of M&Ms in 2 days-

[vernal moth]

Well, it's a pale pink, am not crazy

[untold copper]

thats not healthy right

it was a small packet tho

[vernal moth]

Oh I don't eat any sweats, haven't for years

[untold copper]

...

i love sweats

[vernal moth]

I do eat ice cream like once a week tho, lmao

[potent fossil]

bro i know some people who eat multiple packets of those a day 😔 i finally got my mom to cut sugar as much as possible

[vernal moth]

I don't even miss them, I just stopped buying them at some point

[untold copper]

but like, after eating sweats i get depression for some time, like, total brain shutdown

[untold copper]

bro

thats bad

[untold copper]

we got these as a gift

[potent fossil]

no shit :p

[untold copper]

even my mom doesn't let me buy sweats >:(

which is probably good

good job mom

[vernal moth]

Also, I think if I wanted to loose weight for good I would need to stop drinking beer, so that's not happening, lol

[potent fossil]

americans are on another level, ya gotta see some of these fools

[untold copper]

f

im just throwing myself into it at this point

whatever it takes. even no beer.

[wispy blade]

me, who will casually eat 2 bags of potato chips in a row

[vernal moth]

My dad just came back from Boston

The food pics he showed were insane

Never saw such a big steak before

[untold copper]

fun fact, my mom NEVER EVER EVERRRRRRRRR let us buy chips as kids, so I never really developed a taste for them, so now I don't eat chips.

[vernal moth]

Well, it's a choice of living like that, I just didn't wanna do it anymore

I was sweating when taking the stairs

[potent fossil]

"why am i not losing weight i dont get it i dont even eat that much"

had sugary cereal with full fat milk for breakfast

went to mcdonalds for coffee with cream before work

went to work breakroom and bought some candies and ate those

went to fast food for lunch for huge börger and fries and soft drink

went back to work breakroom and got some snack chips and such, and some coffee with cream again

went home and ate large enchilada dinner

ate ice cream in front of tv later with some soda

"ahh finally time for bed"

[untold copper]

never seen steak before irl

[vernal moth]

Wat

You got some vegan parents or what?

[potent fossil]

he's indian mini cows are SACRED

S A C R E D

[untold copper]

oh

[vernal moth]

Oh yes I agree

[untold copper]

yeah that makes more sense as to why i've never seen steak before

[vernal moth]

They are special and sacred and need to be served just right

[untold copper]

lmao

[potent fossil]

😎

[vernal moth]

Mfw an American knows more about Indian culture than an Indian

[wispy blade]

i've had the luck to have had a piece of wagyu 👀

[vernal moth]

Me too

[potent fossil]

i dont know anything about indian culture i've just taken a world religions class and hindu was included

i guessed

[vernal moth]

We were in a stake house in Amsterdam

[untold copper]

I just hadn't figured out why i haven't eaten steak lmaooo, i thought it was something that i never wanted to have

so

yes

[wispy blade]

my dad went to a wholesale store (for companies n stuff) and was like lol they have wagyu and i want steak let's do it

[potent fossil]

if you're a hindu then yea it makes sense, dont eat the sacred cow boi

[untold copper]

i am hindu

and sacred cows are dumb

die

[vernal moth]

Does that mean hamburgers are pork?

In India?

[wispy blade]

ham is pork yes

[untold copper]

we don't have hamburgers

[vernal moth]

Ah good

[untold copper]

we dont have pork either here, at least not much, bcuz muslims

[vernal moth]

Oh right

[untold copper]

its mostly chicken :D

[vernal moth]

Lmao

[worn crest]

we have a city called hamburg real flex

[untold copper]

lmao

[potent fossil]

yea that's where hamburgers come from

[wispy blade]

we have a city called sexbierum, bigger flex

[potent fossil]

its the sandwich invented in hamburg hence hamburger

[wispy blade]

the word burger just means citizen in dutch
runs

[untold copper]

We have an island named Thiruvanananthapuram

tell me when you learn to say that

[vernal moth]

We also got Nürnberg where the Nürnberger come from

[void void]

waspik > *

[wispy blade]

TRUE

[worn crest]

uh whats "bierum" or is it like in german
weird city names we also have xd a part of darmstadt 💀 but too hard to say

[wispy blade]

sex bier rum

bruh

[vernal moth]

I mean, Deppendorf exists

[untold copper]

also, i think its pretty awesome how we have like 100+ different ways of cooking just chicken, because no beef and pork, and all of them taste equally epic

[vernal moth]

Well, "exists", it's part of Bielefeld iirc

[untold copper]

ok i sleeps now gn bois

mfw exams starting this week-

[vernal moth]

Man you in for a real treat once you get your first real rumsteak

[untold copper]

lmao

[worn crest]

that are parts of darmstadt

[untold copper]

soon

[wispy blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s4vbphXifA

[native wolf]

Wixhausen sounds interesting lol

[worn crest]

yeah xd

[wispy blade]

if noah does not know this video i will be disappointed

severely disappointed

[vernal moth]

Am not drunk enough to watch a dutch video

[potent fossil]

who is noah

[worn crest]

thats kinda bad quality xd but i understand parts of it

[void void]

:(

[potent fossil]

oh ok

[vernal moth]

Anyways

i go sleep/vibe to my new favorite song I discovered yesterday now

https://youtu.be/UCN0NG2NxGU

[potent fossil]

well hf sleeping ima go shove more physics into my brain cells

[worn crest]

yeah sleepy music but not fame

[wispy blade]

you mean shove more physics in the connections between your brain cells

[potent fossil]

ma'am there is no connections between the brain cells, that's called the liminal space. neurons generate action potentials in the form of chemicals that run down the neuron's axon into the liminal space and is carried by neurotransmitters to other nearby cells which do the same thing until thresholds are met for action to become tangible

do not challenge me

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[native wolf]

He's too strong to be stopped

[wispy blade]

cat im being bullied :(

help

[golden gust]

Simple.

[potent fossil]

sorry that my brain cells are aware of themselves

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjE2sxCQ_rU

[potent fossil]

😎

[wispy blade]

imagine having sentient brain cells

imagine having brain cells in the first place

[potent fossil]

mynameisinigomontoyayoukilledmyfatherpreparetodie

[native wolf]

You are bullying yourself at this point lmao

[wispy blade]

no

i am speaking facts

[potent fossil]

shit i have 2 things to do today but completely forgot what they are

[wispy blade]

always fun

unlike you, i actually did all the things i had to do today B)

[native wolf]

Imagine having to do things at all

[wispy blade]

i would not like to be a non-living thing thanks

[magic river]

Wow, Zink (GL on Vulkan) can run some things not even the native Mesa GL drivers support

Zink has ARB_bindless_textures support, only radeonsi supports that (ok, nvc0 does too but that shit doesn't work)

Which means you get more GL stuff on Zink than on the Intel funded GL driver

[magic river]

Huh, none of the AMD RX XXX series had the same kinds of GPUs for the whole set

200 series had 4 generations of GPUs in it while the 300, 400, and 500 series had 3 generations (not the same generations but all of them had a GCNv1)

400 and 500 non-OEM was all one generation though

[austere ivy]

god I hate the new fandom layout

I apologize to the designers of it, but if 30% of the layout is blank space and the other 30% is ads, it is not a good layout

[formal turret]

u can actually widen it which makes it not as bad

I believe it's that button, someone pointed it out to me and it makes it tolerable compared to the old design

[plucky sparrow]

But..

State Farm offers surprisingly great rates!

😔

[magic river]

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/431706-fandom-com-cleaner-wikis-userscript

Doesn't make it wider but there is a button for that already, this gets rid of the rest of the junk

[austere ivy]

Appreciated, thanks Amaranth

[brave radish]

someone should make a plugin to show wiki pages in the chat

I would but I'm lazy

[left swift]

Can you make a plugin that shows the plugin in the chat

Thanks

[brave radish]

done

shall I DM you the jar?

[left swift]

Keep the jar in the fridge so it's cold thanks

[brave radish]

k

[worn ember]

cold jars best jars

[plucky sparrow]

Is Google getting a dark mode?

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[plucky sparrow]

I think it let me enable it while in incognito but I’m actually not sure

[worthy geode]

yeah, they are doing an a/b test, some accounts have it and some don't

[twin lagoon]

they've been doingt hat test for a while

like months at this point

[plucky sparrow]

I see

[worn ember]

wow so cool

its like light mode but dark

why did no one think of this yet

[novel horizon]

🤔

[merry talon]

everything about fandom is god awful

the new runescape wiki is such a delight in comparison

[tropic flame]

fandom is god awful because it fell for the "le modern design website" paradigm

wikipedia looks just fine without trying to run 20 animations on the client side when I'm just trying to scroll down

not everything has to be dynamic, damnit

[novel horizon]

[warm anchor]

Monke

[whole prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PajamQUinY

MoJank™️

[south matrix]

how much calcite is an unreasonable amount of calcite?

[whole prawn]

anything more than 1

[south matrix]

for players to collect

[whole prawn]

just tested and yeah its real

on 1.17.1

paper

[abstract peak]

did discord remove the streaming option?

I don't have the option anymore

[whole prawn]

you may not have permission

[brave radish]

does someone know where I can find the language files for the client other than the en_US.json included in the jar?

[solid sapphire]

mornin

[silver nexus]

Ok I might get banned for saying this, but diorite was my favorite block until calcite was added.

[novel horizon]

ban

[brave radish]

me realizing they added calcite

[novel horizon]

yeah

[solid sapphire]

diorite gud

[novel horizon]

I'm not playing much until 1.18 comes out

in the meantime i am playing 1.16.5 with mods

https://twitter.com/ToastyTime

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Ju00QIPQw2mCcUSrbyQKQ

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/122900397965705216/887156391377248286/E_NNCzOXMAILAKj.png

It is kinda interesting that some kinda known streamer had the experience with covid, sadly

someone mentioned that at Pterodactyl discord

Damn sad, to see people going through that

Month in a hospital like that, I had also someone die to covid, but it was over in a few days for them

[potent fossil]

Sucks

[warm anchor]

covid isnt ending any time soon with the amount of idiots still around

[novel horizon]

the thing is

even if more people were behaving better it's still gonna be kinda bad

so many mutations and things

covids gonna be here probably for at least few years and may be here for a long time, even dozens of year, who knows 🤷‍♂️

[warm anchor]

Either we get enough of vaccinated people to hit herd immunity before it further mutate or we continue to do this lock down and open repeat

[novel horizon]

It has mutated already quite a few times, still though

Some people probably wouldn't vaccinate anyway

[warm anchor]

I dont care about them tbh if they choice to not vaccinate and die from it

I care when they get covid and taking up space in hospital when other people in need requires care

[novel horizon]

I don't think people deserve death for it, but some people endanger others

Not problem they get covid, but that they spread covid a block other people from the health care

Spreading misinformation is also ew, sadly

idk what happens later, but a year ago i thought it's gonna be worse

[warm anchor]

if you not gonna trust the current medical advancement and refuse to get vaccine when it's safe for you. Dont you run back to the same medical care facility and ask to be cared for when you get covid. It's really as simple as that

[novel horizon]

The thing is that there are also people who endanger others on purpose

It's a shame

:/

but what can u do

I know people who are not vaccinated and I know the reasons, okay, sure, but there's lots of people that can get it and won't just because

[silver nexus]

i dont get the "THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYNA TAKE OUR RIGHTS BY MAKIN US WEAR MASKS" argument since, if the government wanted to take your rights they'd take more than your right to breathe comfortably when walking up stairs

[magic river]

Random question: would you consider someone rich if they still had to work to survive?

[silver nexus]

no

[novel horizon]

Hmm, wdym

[magic river]

I usually don't start thinking of someone as rich until they're in the "I could retire now but I want more" range

[novel horizon]

Yeah, kinda

But there are people who genuinely want help others, even when they are good with money

[warm anchor]

I work to socialize kinda

that's when you know that person is rich

[magic river]

Like, if you make $200,000 a year you aren't rich. If you live frugally you might be some day though.

[silver nexus]

hmm

[magic river]

Err, cut that in half for Europe and probably a few more times for India and such

[novel horizon]

It depends on the word, I would consider someone like that rich

it depends on the country, but $200 000 a year is a lot here

[unkempt drift]

lol, 200k/year is rich? no way

[magic river]

Although even in somewhere with a lower standard of living $200,000/year isn't automatically rich

[novel horizon]

In US it might not be

[magic river]

Basically I think you're only rich when you make enough money from investments to cover your expenses

[novel horizon]

Some people are in good conditions when they make over $20 000/year in middle of europe

[unkempt drift]

housing prices where I live are absurd. a bunch of small-ish resort-style cottages just sold for $2mill each about a mile from me

[novel horizon]

$200k a year, damn

[warm anchor]

200k a year will make you a litearly king in most South East asia

[novel horizon]

Amaranth that might also be true

Like you don't need to work

but

that's about the frugal thing

maybe you don't need that much money and few things can let you live like you want

[magic river]

$200,000/year means you're doing great pretty much anywhere in the world, sure

[warm anchor]

housing is just dumb af rn

everywhere

[magic river]

But if you only did it for a year then stopped working you'd soon be broke and homeless

Soon might be 10 years in some parts of the world if you are careful but still

[novel horizon]

$200 000 a year, damn, you could get like 2 decent flats for that, rent them and get maybe $1k or more a month, which is enough for a lot of people to live on

[south matrix]

Zimbabwe

[novel horizon]

it's kinda unbelievable that some people like jeff bezos in theory have that much "money"

[magic river]

Ok, let's also assume you live somewhere that makes sense 😛

[novel horizon]

like their net worth or so

[magic river]

Jeff Bezos made more while we were having this discussion than all of us will make in our lives combined

[novel horizon]

It is funny and sad

So much money

Over $200 B

net worth

decent

[solid sapphire]

sadge

i ripped the pcie port on my server

[novel horizon]

why

[solid sapphire]

the plastic got britile af

i just realised

[warm anchor]

turn on PC then

AC*

[solid sapphire]

due to my shitty inet solution i can moove my router to the server bench

[solid sapphire]

i dont have one

[warm anchor]

time to get one

[solid sapphire]

wont

my electricity bills are high enough

[novel horizon]

when you have server at home...

[viscid wedge]

Being a uni student is living the fuckin good life boys and girls

[solid sapphire]

what you mean you dont have 3 servers from 2012 under your bed?

[novel horizon]

you think i have a bed?

[solid sapphire]

no

mine rn is under servicing

the bed bugs told me something is wrong

so they took it

[novel horizon]

bed bugs ew

😦

[solid sapphire]

*i dont have bed bugs

[novel horizon]

[solid sapphire]

just a lot of dust that triggers my allergies

welp fuc time to break the wall

knew it was a bad idea to move the ethernet port from behind the cupboard to under the desk

[viscid wedge]

@solid sapphire I use light mode on a Mac Pro server

[solid sapphire]

sigh

please fkin go out of earth

may apple please be impaled by andry people with pitchforks

[novel horizon]

why

[solid sapphire]

may whoever invented lightmode die a horrible death in a volcano.

[novel horizon]

O_o

you know what

[solid sapphire]

WHAT can websties please stop defaulting to lightmode in the middle of the night

[novel horizon]

look into #gifs-and-memes

[viscid wedge]

Sent from my iPhone.

[novel horizon]

sent from my iPhone 20 Ultra Pro Max

[solid sapphire]

where is the button to end life again?

[solid sapphire]

if it is below the ifoney 0 then its ok, but above the iphone 1 its not ok

[viscid wedge]

browsing discord on my iPhone 1G

[solid sapphire]

no

1G > 1

also on a sidenot wtf am a doing rn

[viscid wedge]

you turd they're the same

[solid sapphire]

really?

never used an iphone so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

alsodosentmacosrunthelinuxkernelasthekernel

tf_my_spacebar_broke

[viscid wedge]

no

[solid sapphire]

i see

also can we take a moment to see how cursed this ntwrk card is

[left swift]

bruh OVH won't let me cancel and wants me to pay 6 months left on a 1 year commitment they auto renewed without notifying me or having me agree too

omfl

[solid sapphire]

why i dont have autorenow on anything

[left swift]

i wouldn't have thought they auto renew a 1 year commitment either but they did and i guess now in order to cancel i have to pay ~$600

[warm anchor]

time to start your own summer host

I mean winter host

[left swift]

i'll call it island of ytinretE

host

[novel horizon]

[left swift]

idk you think closing my paypal account will work

[warm anchor]

do you hae your address tie into it?

[left swift]

yes

[warm anchor]

they will probably mail you a bill still

[left swift]

thats what trash cans are for

[warm anchor]

just move house

[novel horizon]

just don't exist

[left swift]

contact USPS to block mail from that sender

ugg so fucking annoying

ovh notification system so fucking shit

[novel horizon]

funny thing that happened to me

[left swift]

even if they did notify me of renewing i dont even know where to fucking check if they did

its not in alerts

[novel horizon]

i got email from them after a year or more without anything to do with them

said i owe them money

click on click "you cannot do that" okay then but on the page it showed i had some unpaid things

so i contacted support and they were like "no you dont have any unpaid services or anything"

🤷‍♂️

[solid sapphire]

isint that fraud

[warm anchor]

take to their support first then

[left swift]

i think auto renewing a contract without written consent is fraud

who knows

france is a wild country

[novel horizon]

just contact them and see

[warm anchor]

make sure you speak Russian

[left swift]

i did they told me i ahve to pay the last of the months left on contract

[warm anchor]

in the support ticket

[left swift]

or buy a different server the same price for the same commitment

[warm anchor]

tell them you just got fired from your job and your landlord kicks you out and you aint got no penny

[novel horizon]

and you are poor and a minority

and you are sick

[solid sapphire]

just say i was paying from aunts money and she died and close paypal

and move houses

set it on fire

[left swift]

[novel horizon]

nice

but if you agreed to that commitment.. then that's how it works?

unless your country have some laws that forbid that directly

idk

[left swift]

i agreed to the first 1 year commitment on 3/23/20 that lasted until 3/23/21 like it said

but my problem is

[novel horizon]

it might have had auto-renew after 1 year in there written and you agreed to that

[left swift]

where do they get off doing another 1 year commitment wihtout TELLING ME

[warm anchor]

gonna go back and check if you signed the auto renew

[novel horizon]

"if you dont agree cancel auto renewal or blah blah"

idk

🤷‍♂️

[left swift]

so dumb

[warm anchor]

ask them to provide the proof of your agreement to auto renew then

will be next email

[left swift]

i did

[warm anchor]

there is a chance they dont have it 😉

go to My service > Contract List and hope it isnt there then

[formal turret]

subscriptions bro they get you every time

[warm anchor]

@left swift go there and see if it is written in those contract you agree to, if not, you should be fine. Just stop paying them.

[left swift]

bro

half this stuff isnt even accepted

[warm anchor]

then good

check the one you accepted

to see if automatic renew is on those you accepted

[left swift]

how was i not even notified they changed terms of service after 2 years

[warm anchor]

if not you aint on hook for anything

[novel horizon]

some things like ToS are automatically accepted if you still use their services tho

[left swift]

mines not

[warm anchor]

well keep a record of it now then

[left swift]

i dont understand how this site is so shit now

i miss when they spam emailed you

[warm anchor]

you havent seem shit until you use Oracle

[novel horizon]

lol

[left swift]

i remember the days of getting 5 emails a day for a week about upcoming due date for a server

[warm anchor]

things build on top of things on top of things over decades

[potent fossil]

oracle makes me irrationally angry

they say 200gb block storage free, so i have 200gb storage, but they're charging it for me. made a support ticket, they gave me the runaround for over a month but couldn't figure it out and eventually just told me they are right and i am wrong due to the block storage performance units.

which is at minimum btw.

which should be free.

[warm anchor]

what do they do this time

[potent fossil]

so im paying $5/mo for storage that should be free but is not

they also tried to get me to call their engineering department and "set up a call to discuss my needs"

they're just a bunch of fucking idiots

[warm anchor]

why not

[potent fossil]

ill move eventually

[warm anchor]

I'd let them

and I will talk to the "engineer" and ask them to make sure I am always under the free tier quota

[potent fossil]

i dont have time to deal with a bunch of minute brain fucktards

[limber knot]

for some reason when a player joins loaded chunks, they lag out a bunch. has this happened to anyone before and have they got a fix?

[warm anchor]

use fast M.2 SSD and fast internet would be ideal.

wait so simple you are actually paying

[potent fossil]

for now yes

[novel horizon]

lol

they got u

[potent fossil]

its $5/mo

[novel horizon]

they got u

$5 from thousands of people

maybe

[potent fossil]

i'd prefer $0/mo but $5/mo anywhere else gets me way less compute power

so whatever on the storage

ig

[whole prawn]

its a involuntary donation for the free service

[novel horizon]

Google has also 200GB for like.. what? $4?

[potent fossil]

it just annoys me the way they talk to me in support ticket like i'm the idiot here

[novel horizon]

yeah

[solid sapphire]

pfft imagine paying for hosting1 just add the bills to your intenet & power bills by self hostin\

[potent fossil]

when their terms say 200gb free, i show them screenshots of 200gb usage and their policy

[warm anchor]

I am still paying $0 so far I mananged to dodge every bullet

[potent fossil]

they look at it and go "i dont see a problem here"

[solid sapphire]

get out the gun\

[novel horizon]

you have it too, eternity?

[warm anchor]

sir I was the original shill

[novel horizon]

CEO of Oracle so you got the protection)

damn

how much they paid you

[warm anchor]

@novel horizon #paper-help message

[solid sapphire]

[warm anchor]

the blog post is published on May 25th

[novel horizon]

Yeah, I know about this one, Eternity

but still

[solid sapphire]

thas why i use amoongus free hosting no virus installer 5g pro ultimate no ads

[left swift]

hi simple

[warm anchor]

I mean @potent fossil at least you aint no mana whos stuck paying $600

[left swift]

im cancelling paypal if they dont let me cancel

[warm anchor]

xDDD

[left swift]

and just ghosting them

i dont care, 6 year old paypal

will delete it

LOL

[solid sapphire]

good.

[left swift]

stripe is better anyways

[solid sapphire]

next we delete ovh

[left swift]

delete france first

that's the real problem

[solid sapphire]

yes

[novel horizon]

I like Hetzner

[solid sapphire]

then germany i mean money!

[novel horizon]

I left OVH before because it wasn't that good and kinda expensive

[solid sapphire]

everything should be free

[left swift]

uh

g

watever

[novel horizon]

so far I love Hetzner though

❤️

[solid sapphire]

i have a great idea

[left swift]

even sucks more cuz I also just bought a east coast bloom host server cuz it was out of stock and just came back

[limber knot]

Hetzner is good

[left swift]

so an extra 55$ gone

life is pain

[novel horizon]

just ask jeff to give u money 🙂

[solid sapphire]

so we make fake 4k monitors™️ and install crypto miners in them™️

[left swift]

crypto mine on the ovh server

a really shitty one

[solid sapphire]

YES

smort

[left swift]

just use it as a torrent seeder

[solid sapphire]

or that

[left swift]

make them cancel it

[potent fossil]

F for mana

[solid sapphire]

or use ovh's servers to dos them!

[chrome cosmos]

---------------------

[novel horizon]

just say

use their servers to do illegal stuff

that covers most of things

[solid sapphire]

so virtual magic dust?

[warm anchor]

report your own server for abuse and tos breaking and have them shut it down 😉 @left swift

[solid sapphire]

[novel horizon]

sounds good to me ^^

[left swift]

TRUE

[solid sapphire]

less go

[warm anchor]

just upload a 10 second clip of Disney movie on it

[chrome cosmos]

https://jellyfin.org/

[solid sapphire]

LOL

[warm anchor]

the Mickey D will come and shut it all down for you

[left swift]

messing with disney copyright

i dont want to be assassinated

cmon eternity

[solid sapphire]

actually

[chrome cosmos]

very useful if you guys wanna watch movies on the go with no port forwarding

[left swift]

huh

[solid sapphire]

mine crypto and upload 10 bytes of nitndo assets

[warm anchor]

nah a 10 second clip will probably just lose a few fingers no biggie @left swift look at the big picture man. you got to get out of contract.

[left swift]

suicide by gunshot to the back of the head

from 500m

[solid sapphire]

last time i did that my dog got abduc=ted.

[chrome cosmos]

make a seedbox

[left swift]

that was my nickname in highschool

[solid sapphire]

nitendo is better

they kill you asap

painlessly

[chrome cosmos]

~~ewww adobe is better ~~

[void void]

They just dont give a shit™️

[chrome cosmos]

adobe does not care about windows startup diabling

[solid sapphire]

just make a folder called p*** and add cute dog and cat pics in it and then report the server

[lavish siren]

test

defaq

[solid sapphire]

irc bot? or irc client

[void void]

Zero width spaces iirc

[solid sapphire]

cant tell

[chrome cosmos]

NUKE

[void void]

To prevent you from being tagged if you’re talking in dc

[lavish siren]

Ah

[limber knot]

irssi didn't like that :P

[chrome cosmos]

irc has bad gui https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/832111271238828033.png?size=64

[void void]

Except for the fact that your client is rendering them as regular spaces apparantly

[limber knot]

maybe because my client is terminal based

[void void]

That might be it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

They don’t appear for me with thelounge

[solid sapphire]

noahvd my production is broken again

[void void]

How did you break ir

It

[solid sapphire]

idk

just decided to break

[serene bolt]

!warn @chrome cosmos stop discussing piracy

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned sharvesh#3671 (stop discussing piracy) [1 total infraction] -- Puremin0rez#1337.

[novel horizon]

yarrr

[solid sapphire]

should have guessed ythat

da fuq how did my ethernet port just die

petition for new nvidia logo

lemme get it printed on banners and tshirts and lets storm into ndiviva office

[potent fossil]

yall are weird

[solid sapphire]

yes

[vernal moth]

https://citizenlab.ca/2021/09/forcedentry-nso-group-imessage-zero-click-exploit-captured-in-the-wild/

Update your Iphones

[solid sapphire]

android here😎

also 5.1 so has all the souqurity updates

[unkempt drift]

ya I already updated

[vernal moth]

Interesting exploit, send a malicious gif that's actually a malicious pdf which triggers a integer overflow in the image rendering pipeline

https://twitter.com/VancityReynolds/status/1437571619250126849?s=19

Ryan Reynolds (@VancityReynolds)

Late to the Grace Kelly Tik Tok trend but WAY early for our Christmas movie musical. 🎵 ➡️ @mikasounds https://t.co/QdpfMv7QJw

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Lol

[solid sapphire]

mini just 1800 hrs left

[vernal moth]

For?

[solid sapphire]

for the walk to complete™️

(re: yesterday)

[marble lark]

An image renderer exploit

you learn something new every day

[vernal moth]

I still don't get it, lol

[solid sapphire]

.

[vernal moth]

Oh

[solid sapphire]

lol

[void void]

Interesting

Thanks for the update reminder

[magic river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)

https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2020-8899

This is why all your parsers should be written in Rust 😄

[potent fossil]

Mari approved

[ashen cliff]

Things I like: Websites with a lot of images preloading.
Things I hate: Websites with a lot of images preloading.

[marble lark]

ah Android

decent OS but a clusterfuck to write applications on (In my experience)

[magic river]

iOS has had at least one jailbreak that was started via image decoder exploit on a website

Like, load this webpage and it'll hack your phone and luckily for you just jailbreak it for you

(and patch the exploit)

[marble lark]

woah

that's some next level sh*t

[magic river]

comex did it, that's why people know who I mean when I say comex 😛

jailbreakme.com looks like some troll website of some sort these days

He also did some Wii jailbreaking and I think these days is a fairly active Dolphin developer

[marble lark]

reject OSes return to writing assembly for the CPU directly C:

on the plus side you have no more vulnerabilities if you have no OS at all

stonks

[wispy blade]

well hf sherman

i'll stick to writing stuff that compiles to bytecode

[marble lark]

it's a joke xd

[wispy blade]

i know

[marble lark]

makes me wonder why cross compilers for languages compiled all the way to native binaries aren't common today though now that I think of it

[wispy blade]

i'll jmp to 4 after i com r3,r5

or was it cmp

idr

[marble lark]

though to be fair assembly can be fun if you're doing it on a 6502 for example

on something like Windows all the fun drains out

[marble lark]

same

thank god for datasheets

[wispy blade]

anyway i took a little looksie at the college i wanna go to

[marble lark]

ayy

[wispy blade]

their comp sci course has 3 blocks of RDBMS in year 1

[marble lark]

RDBMS?

[marble lark]

I'm trying to stay in college and not get kicked out meanwhile

the contrast xd

[magic river]

Relational DataBase Management System

aka SQL things

[marble lark]

oh god

[magic river]

There used to be alternatives to SQL, some of them arguably better, but IBM

Then again a researcher at IBM invented the relational model so... I guess we can give them that one

postgres used to not use SQL, for example

[marble lark]

databases give me PTSD xdd

i was horrible at them

[magic river]

That's why it seems to have two names, postgres and postgresql

[wispy blade]

formatting and partitioning drives causes me more anxiety than db

[marble lark]

admittedly that was probably because I didn't bother learning SQL syntax I guess

[wispy blade]

because i can test my db code

[magic river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QUEL_query_languages

IBM invented the relational model but some guy at Berkeley put out the first relational DB

[wispy blade]

chad

[magic river]

And it followed the relational model more closely than IBM's version (DB2 and SQL)

But no one wants to write this shit: ```sql
range of E is EMPLOYEE
retrieve into W
(COMP = E.Salary / (E.Age - 18))
where E.Name = "Jones"

[wispy blade]

not too bad tbh

[magic river]

What you should really do is query your DB with prolog

[potent fossil]

I'm going to query my DB with Amaranthlog

[wispy blade]

im going to not query my DB

[magic river]

Nope, you have to write everything in DMX

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Mining_Extensions

[marble lark]

.kill

!kill

what the

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/ight-imma-head-out-spongebob-imma-head-out-ima-head-out-gif-14902967

[marble lark]

/kill

[potent fossil]

stop

[magic river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YrrAroK6bI

[marble lark]

tf2

[magic river]

I miss the little 10 second version

Nevermind, found it

[wispy blade]

gg

i still wanna make my own programming language sometime

[magic river]

http://www.craftinginterpreters.com/

[wispy blade]

woah thanks

[magic river]

Free to read from the website, gotta paid for print, epub, or pdf

[marble lark]

wanna join forces?

been a thing I've been thinking of doing of for fun too

[marble lark]

I've seen that before it's a really good website

there's also another one that's pretty good I'll see if i can find it

[magic river]

VM bytecode design is a fun subject to think about

[marble lark]

found it

https://ruslanspivak.com/lsbasi-part1/

[marble lark]

it's sort of like assembly but not as complex as actual assembly in a way

[marble lark]

is that the argument of whether stack or register based bytecode is faster?

(Though to be honest unless you're somehow using the native hardware stacks and registers I doubt this makes a difference since either would be emulated in RAM anyway)

[magic river]

I was thinking more about efficient interpreters vs efficient disk usage vs ease of implementation vs capabilities and etc

[marble lark]

oh

[magic river]

I've always wanted to take the time to write an MMIX or VX64 VM though, something more like a real computer rather than JVM or Python bytecode

[marble lark]

I mean if you really like self inflicted pain you could build a compiler instead I guess

[magic river]

Pretty sure the book/website I linked goes through all of that

[marble lark]

iirc it only briefly talked about transpiling? I forgot since I read it pretty long ago xd

[magic river]

Lexer, parser, optimization passes, bytecode or machine code emit, interpreter, JIT, GC, etc

[marble lark]

looks like my memory is pretty bad 😛

[magic river]

Ah, I guess they never added the straight compiler bits then

It was planned at one point iirc but I'm not seeing it in the chapter titles

[marble lark]

sometimes I can remember things with surprising accuracy and other times I can't remember something I did 1 minute ago lmao

[marble lark]

oh

[magic river]

No JIT or machine code

[marble lark]

closest is probably the clox interpreter the book mentioned and designed

[magic river]

Lexer, parser, optimization, interpreter, bytecode, and GC are things in here though

The bytecode is like CPython though, it gets interpreted

[marble lark]

yep I know

[magic river]

(did you know CPython actually compiles to bytecode before executing?)

[marble lark]

it's one of those classic switch case interpreters

[marble lark]

yep

I've spent an unhealthy amount of time staring at CPython's ceval.c bytecode evaluation loop for no reason at all

function calls in it are implemented pretty oddly

[marble lark]

to be honest most interpreters probably do that nowadays

[magic river]

Perl probably doesn't, not sure about PHP, what other languages are popular but don't use JITs or compile to machine code?

[marble lark]

PHP is an example

it compiles to Zend Opcodes which iirc is a register based opcode

I'm not sure if Ruby counts as popular

[magic river]

Ah yeah, that's been true since PHP 4 I think

[twin lagoon]

considering github & gitlab are powered by ruby

[magic river]

Forgot about zend engine

[twin lagoon]

i'd say yes

[marble lark]

fair enough

[magic river]

Ruby uses a JIT

[marble lark]

Ruby was a tree walker for 20 years until 1.9 when they changed the reference implementation from MRI to YARV funnily enough

they were like

[magic river]

Yeah, it was a big push to get a JIT in there

[marble lark]

"hmm looks like we're years behind everyone else, time to upgrade!"

I though YARV was a bytecode interpreter like CPython tho

[magic river]

Then they played some marketing BS with their 3.0 release, said it was going to be X% faster but what they meant was against 2.0

[marble lark]

I remembered that wrong probably

[magic river]

Most of the speedups were in 2.x releases already

Something like 20-30% was still expected to come from the actual 3.0 release but the marketing was 300%

[marble lark]

how'd they expect to not get caught when the disparity in promised vs actual is that large

[marble lark]

I guess you could say PHP is also a JIT now to be honest

[magic river]

Oh yeah PHP 8 has an optional JIT, right?

[marble lark]

they added a rudimentary JIT Compiler in PHP 8 but the interpreter still takes priority most of the time since the compiler isn't that advanced

yep

[magic river]

It's not on by default though I thought

[marble lark]

yeah the interpreter still runs most of it

[magic river]

Almost all of the performance wins for PHP in the last 5-10 years have been from using a better hashmap implementation 😄

[marble lark]

JIT in PHP is treated as an opcache for the interpreter from what I remember

[magic river]

Like, they caught up to HHVM/Hack just by using a hashmap that isn't some design from a CS class in 1992

[marble lark]

TIL PHP has hashmaps O.o

[magic river]

They call them associative arrays and just like JS and Lua technically almost everything in the language is one

[marble lark]

oh

[magic river]

So it's a pretty core data structure

[marble lark]

all i remember about js is cat saying that everything in it is an array xd

[magic river]

Nah, everything is a hashmap

[marble lark]

oo

[magic river]

For real, objects are just HashMap<String,Function> 😄

[marble lark]

also speaking of which I also kinda want to do that too but I've only ever managed to do it (Writing in assembly) on things like a 6502 ;-;

[marble lark]

oh god lmao

[magic river]

Technically arrays are also just hashmaps but one of the first optimizations any JS VM will do is start an array as a real array and only convert to hashmap if you do something weird to it

Just like when you do new Foo() it doesn't give you a hashmap, it gives you something optimized for the shape of that class until you start adding or removing things from it

But that's all optimizations under the covers, from a user perspective it's just hashmaps

[marble lark]

I've never really understood how js engines don't implode with everything in the language being so modifiable haha

[marble lark]

rip whoever's in charge of writing the optimizations for that Xd

[magic river]

Same as any other JIT, they assume you'll do sane things and bail to the slow code when you disappoint them

Python is even more dynamic and I think in ways that are important for performance even more dynamic than Ruby

PyPy is space magic from the future

[potent fossil]

gauss's law really makes me irrationally angry

[marble lark]

python JIT written in... python??

I guess it's RPython but I don't really know what that is either

[upbeat falcon]

Welcome to RPython's documentation! — RPython Documentation

https://rpython.readthedocs.io/

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[magic river]

RPython is a restricted subset of Python that they taught another program how to use to turn in to a JIT

Just like Truffle does for Graal, more or less

[marble lark]

oh

[magic river]

You write an interpreter in their special way that isn't too much hassle, tooling turns your slow interpreter into a much faster JIT

[marble lark]

tooling turns ... interpreter into a ... JIT

eh?

[magic river]

The real magic of PyPy is that it is mostly compatible with Python code but is a JIT with a real GC but is also mostly compatible with CPython extensions even though the extension API is just directly poking at the interpreter state machine

[solid sapphire]

when you are bored and friend ssends task manager pic

[marble lark]

ah

to be honest I always thought that PyPy was an extension module to CPython using the PEP 523 API

I only recently found out it was something else entirely

[quick pasture]

there's also the numba library, which can compile a subset of code

and it works with numpy

[potent fossil]

when i mained arch i had a script for determining current song on spotify, then ran watch -n 15 ./currentsong.sh | cowsay | lolcat (or smth like that). Was fun for a while

[magic river]

Basically Truffle takes your code for interpreting ints and then for adding ints together and applies it to 12 + 34 to get something like new IntAdd(new IntLiteral(12), new IntLiteral(34)) then the Graal JIT inlines the fuck out of it and you end up executing mov eax, 12; mov ebx, 34; add eax, ebx;

I guess that's not actually like how PyPy works though

[solid sapphire]

lol

[marble lark]

ah ok

[potent fossil]

👍

[marble lark]

I'm still confused how you turn an interpreter into a JIT though

[solid sapphire]

ok i just want to do this lol

ok ill stop now

[marble lark]

does PyPy do something like the HotSpot Interpreter?

[marble lark]

lmao

[magic river]

Truffle turns your generic interpreter logic into something specific for the program you're trying to execute (which is more or less what parsing does but slightly further) then relies on JIT optimizations to turn that in to something comparable to what a bespoke JIT for the language could produce

I think you can do things in Truffle to teach it more about the thing you're parsing and make it even faster

[marble lark]

oh

[magic river]

It's like if you unrolled your interpreter loop over your entire input program

[marble lark]

oh

that makes more sense yeah

I'm not sure if that's the same thing that HotSpot does though

[magic river]

It isn't

[marble lark]

HotSpot's interpreter is kind of a compiler disguised as one in a way but I'm not sure if this is related

[magic river]

This is a layer above HotSpot (although technically Graal replaces the thing that makes it be called HotSpot so...?)

[marble lark]

oh

aye fair enough

[magic river]

Like, the output of this is JVM bytecode that is super inefficient but is in style that an optimizing JIT can strip down pretty easily and one with specific optimization passes and tuning can strip down even more

It works... surprisingly well
https://www.graalvm.org/resources/img/ruby/Optcarrot_benchmark.png

Oh yeah they have an implementation for LLVM IR too so... you can use it for somewhat arbitrary C code too

Which means truffleruby has YARV extension support even though all of it runs on top of the JVM, no actual native code execution is happening

https://speakerdeck.com/eregon/running-rack-and-rails-faster-with-truffleruby

[marble lark]

sorry went to go get a cake

that is pretty interesting though

820% faster jesus

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/cake-yummy-hungry-eating-birthday-cake-gif-18507935

sherman rn

[marble lark]

xd

nah nothing as fancy as that cake in the gif

I'm too poor for that

[magic river]

Jumanji?

[marble lark]

can't tell

haven't watched the movies