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sand shuttle
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lol no

warm anchor
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Letโ€™s thank to that YouTuber

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Thereโ€™s that one channel that go around griefing servers

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Not gonna name it not gonna advertise for piece of trash

formal turret
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there are still servers now that don't use protection plugins?

vernal moth
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yeah

sand shuttle
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First Release: April 21 2021, Jul 16 2021, Jul 22 2021, Jul 21 2021, Aug 2 2021, Aug 2 2021, Aug 3 2021, Aug 3 2021, Apr 12 2021

all public still ๐Ÿ˜‚

warm anchor
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Thereโ€™s are people still using windows xp

vernal moth
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and result would have like an overall confidence, and then a list of checks with like the name, a confidence and the line or whatever tripped the check

waxen panther
vernal moth
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or well, list of lines

warm anchor
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Hi brocco

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Pls sleep

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Xoxo

waxen panther
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Itโ€™s 7am!

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Good morning !!

warm anchor
warm anchor
sand shuttle
sand shuttle
warm anchor
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๐Ÿ‘

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Yeah

sand shuttle
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don't 100% forget why hangar breaks locally, I'd have to check ๐Ÿ˜‚

vernal moth
sand shuttle
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Yea i know it could be separate, however if i get it working proper then i could at least do some actual testing from hangar's side of things to iron out any bugs ๐Ÿ™‚

vernal moth
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idk how integration in hangar will look like ^^

sand shuttle
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I'd half-ass local testing
If I implement it properly It should be able to work in any or most use-cases

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also good thing my project is still using a maven parent

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either way, I'll need to re-write a fair bit of the project anyways just to work better with hangar

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lol, really need to rebrand at some point

warm anchor
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Name it susdetector ๐Ÿ˜‰

sand shuttle
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No

warm anchor
sand shuttle
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I'd like something i could actually trademark and/or copyright lol

warm anchor
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Lmao most MC project has really funky names

gusty egret
sand shuttle
warm anchor
sand shuttle
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I sadly however do not have the creativity or imagination for said rebrand, rip

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can't come up with anything so I'm stuck with an aging name lol

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as for the DB the project will use Mini, I'll have it use mine since it has the most in it.
It'll have to be updated every so often but at least you're not re-doing an entire DB from scratch lol

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275 checks, more once i get around to adding the already detected stuff to it

sand shuttle
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could also throw a method into the current version too, until i get things sorted now that i think about it ๐Ÿ˜‚

sand shuttle
bright wigeon
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I mean for example the โ€œpreparingโ€œ message when you are starting up your Aternos server. (Iโ€™ll send another example more similar to what I want, but thatโ€™s the concept

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No, i know thatโ€™s the MOTD

ashen cliff
untold copper
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lmao

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imagine using chrome

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can't

modern steppe
vernal moth
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Yeah should be using edge, it's 2021

untold copper
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go away mini

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use firefox

vernal moth
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I think i will actually give it a try again for dev stuff since people say it's better for display grid

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But I doubt I will ever stick to it again

void void
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The devtools in Firefox dev edition are nice

bright wigeon
bright wigeon
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the (comming soon)

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I've seen it display several other messages

modern steppe
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its motd

gusty egret
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just normal motd, can do it through plugins to make it "better"

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like F3Name and stuff

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that's a plugin that lets you customize the motd much deeper than normally possible

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oopps, F3Name is the one that lets you edit name in debug mode

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anyhow, a quick google should give you at least 2-3 motd customizer plugins

bright wigeon
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I see

modern steppe
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you can do it through packet manipulation and stuff
anyways, Oh_Shoot only asked for what is that

bright wigeon
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Thanks a lot!!

bright wigeon
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So Iโ€™ll use the motd

frigid shuttle
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hello!

meager tusk
vernal moth
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a) telemetry isn't bad, even paper has it and b) Firefox uses google Analytics for telemetry ๐Ÿคก

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As long as it's anonymous, telemetry is just fine

void void
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you can disable the firefox telemetry though ๐Ÿ™ƒ

modern steppe
void void
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there is one paper server running 102 legacy plugins ๐Ÿ˜‚

vernal moth
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I am still not sure if that's valid

vernal moth
twin lagoon
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@minor badge happeepoheart

ashen cliff
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Idriz bro!

meager tusk
vernal moth
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That's why I said anonymous

twin lagoon
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@untold meadow happeepoheart

untold meadow
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@twin lagoon isabelle

twin lagoon
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BEST keezezezeze

quiet isle
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Question, Hetzner R5 3600 dedi or 4 core dedicated 5950x from bloomhost which would be better?

ashen cliff
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Hetzner.

quiet isle
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I see, thank you

solid sapphire
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dedi > host imo

left swift
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Yes

quiet isle
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Yeah, 12 threads vs 4 total - don't know why I though the 5950x would be any better

worn ember
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@wispy blade stop watching wirtual

wispy blade
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smh

heady spear
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@mental meadow :D<33333 ๐Ÿฅ”blueblack_cats

viral hornet
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๐Ÿฅ”blueblack_cats

mental meadow
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โค๏ธ

warm anchor
left swift
waxen panther
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@minor badge koriLove

limber knotBOT
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gotta love non-organized patches

golden gust
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Please don't link dump that type of shit here

honest pulsar
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sorry ๐Ÿ˜‚

limber knotBOT
ashen cliff
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So, since I can't read... whatever that is, what does it do? kekwhyper

wispy blade
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multithreads worldserver

limber knotBOT
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it doesn't even care about handling events ๐Ÿ˜…

golden gust
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It's almost like the people who make this type of shit have 0 understanding of threading and the complexities of threading in the bukkit environment

limber knotBOT
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yeah, there is zero reason to make this based on Bukkit, stuff like this is better suited as a fabric mod or something where you don't have to deal with plugins breaking instantly

true canyon
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Multithreading the MC server? Cool. Multithreading while keeping more than 5% of Bukkit's API working? Ahahahahaaaaaa no.

honest pulsar
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If multi-threading was that easy, the Paper team would have done it already

chrome cosmos
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dimensional threading mod

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we all know

golden gust
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dimensional threading ain't too hard so long as you're not stuck with the ecosystem we have

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I mean, it's mostly pointless for a survival server, however

chrome cosmos
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the mod struggles with sand and gravel ttho

limber knotBOT
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btw. on a completely other topic: is Quilt still alive and has a working mod loader yet? or did that project die?

limber knotBOT
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the fabric fork

golden gust
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Last I knew it was alive

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I'm not exactly sure what all is going on

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I think that they expected that the departures would have had more of an impact on fabric than it did tbqh

chrome cosmos
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fabric is good and purpur client is being developed

limber knotBOT
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I mean, it might've had if they offered the ability to actually use Quilt lmao

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they still don't have anything on their install page

chrome cosmos
golden gust
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oof

limber knotBOT
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yes, I can click links

chrome cosmos
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last updated 9 hours ago

limber knotBOT
golden gust
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I know that there was stuff going on in the BG but not been following too closely

ashen cliff
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Would be nice if we had a MC modding project without drama.

limber knotBOT
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s/MC modding/open source

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Correction, <DiscordBot> <06krusic22> Would be nice if we had a open source project without drama.

ashen cliff
chrome cosmos
limber knotBOT
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maybe no?

golden gust
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You're missing the entire point

limber knotBOT
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a discord link is not a download link lol

golden gust
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Yes, they're active, yes they're working on it, that's pretty well established

limber knotBOT
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also to avoid drama the only course of action is to not work together with other humans

golden gust
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But, their delivery is kinda slow

limber knotBOT
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I guess I just continue to use fabric for 1.17 ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

chrome cosmos
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fabric poggg

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forge ๐Ÿ’ฉ

tropic flame
golden gust
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forge is one of those projects in which nobody really wants to fork

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fabric is still early in so it's not like it's a long standing dominant player in the scene

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So, replacing fabric with quilt really ain't as big as switching from forge to fabric

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But, at the same point, forge has headaches because it's got so much debt it's accumilated over the years, hence why the java update falcon punched them in the face

chrome cosmos
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fabric is forge but better
vannila like loading times for heavy modpacks

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can't wait a 10 mins for minecraft to start and load in forge

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and 3 mins to enter game bruhhh

golden gust
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that's practically fuck all to do with forge

warm anchor
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I, too, benchmark my software by the startup time coz you know itโ€™s the most important aspect of my software /s

golden gust
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Well, not like it runs anywhere

warm anchor
worn ember
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pew pew

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.kill deez nuts

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

worn ember
wide hazel
wispy blade
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.kill "deez nuts"

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

wispy blade
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@wide hazel uwu

left swift
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.kill joe momma

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

left swift
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Gottem

frank otter
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.kill @frank otter

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

frank otter
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huh what can you kill

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.help kill

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Where's the command list

void void
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probably only people on irc?

full rune
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.kill

marble lark
frank otter
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.kill paperchan

limber knotBOT
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smashes DiscordBot's head in with a massive steel ball.

frank otter
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lmfao it's trying to attack who attacked it

marble lark
wide chasm
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None of Bukkit was ever designed to support threading, every plugin assumes it's on the main thread and every call to Bukkit should be on the main thread - if you're going to be adding different threads in there, a whole bunch of plugins will break

limber knotBOT
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imagine a plugin listening on an event which gets called from different threads both trying to modify the same non-thread-safe collection...

worn ember
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i dont see the issue kek

wide chasm
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If you are doing this from the ground up, then it becomes much easier (of course multi-threaded code is still much more difficult to write properly than single-threaded code), since you don't have to worry about thousands of plugins just assuming all their code is on the same thread.

next frost
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just get rid of these stupid modCount things that cause CMEs and your collection works fine with all the threads!

marble lark
wide chasm
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Just make the class loader do more modifications and replace every collection with one that supports multi-threaded reads/writes.

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And just mark everything volatile and synchronized while you're at it. /s

next frost
marble lark
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I feel ashamed that I can't remember what volatile and synchronized do lmao

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i think i forgot basic Java

upbeat falconBOT
wide chasm
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Volatile ensures updates to a field are directly visible to all threads (i.e. the cache immediately gets flushed).

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Synchronized ensures only one thread can access a method/field at a time and all other threads are forced to wait.

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Oh yeah, volatile also forbids the compiler to make out-of-order-execution optimizations (for that field).

next frost
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understanding the java memory model are totally basics btw

golden gust
marble lark
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I can't truthfully speaking

golden gust
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every project I've seen which tries to do this is litearlly "just for synchronised/locks all around and disable the thread safety mechanisms"

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*just throw

marble lark
magic river
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The Java memory model is the basis for every other language's memory model too so it's something you should put a little effort in to learning

marble lark
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yep I've been learning about them this year

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It is pretty new to me though

wide chasm
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Multi-threaded code is just very hard to get correct and multi-threading doesn't always give you a performance improvement like you might expect it to.

marble lark
wide chasm
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Not to mention that any kind of single-threaded code in an environment will severely limit the speedup you can get out of multi-threaded code - i.e. in a heavily single-threaded environment, changing a small amount of code to be multi-threaded will not yield much of a speedup.

golden gust
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That's one of the fun things

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There are very few types of servers who'll actually highly benefit from threaded worlds

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Most of the time I see servers having a bulk of the time in one world, sure, saving the load will help a bit but I've yet to see it really at the level that threaded worlds would offer a significant benefit to most servers

marble lark
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that said Paper is so aggressively optimized everywhere that I doubt you'd get more improvements making it multithreaded anyway

golden gust
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Well, not really

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There are still many bits of low hanging fruit in the server

marble lark
marble lark
golden gust
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and some stuff would be pretty easy to parallelise

next frost
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writing performant code targets completely different areas than multithreading in most cases

wide chasm
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I honestly can't think of a server type that has multiple heavy worlds with players spread out ~equally over each of them

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In a survival world, the overworld will be basically where ~90% of the players are, so you'd need multiple survival worlds on a server, with players spread equally over them, but I can't think of a server that has that

marble lark
golden gust
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only real servers I'd imagine are minigames but, since the chunk rewrite, extra worlds being practically free is no longer the case, so, I'd imagine more are spreading across one world

wide chasm
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But minigames often don't have to worry about stuff like chunk generation (players are confined to an area), mob spawning (usually disabled), redstone stuff (who's gonna build a redstone contraption in a minigame that's gonna be over in 5 minutes?) and each world will probably only have a dozen or two players, so each world should perform quite decently on their own.

golden gust
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issue is the chunk management stuff like ticket update logic, etc, is still running

marble lark
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extra worlds being practically free is no longer the case

you mean they were at some point?

golden gust
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it's cheaper to have people in a single world rather than several

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Yes, 1.12 and before, the cost of having an extra world loaded was practically insignificant

wide chasm
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Sure, but you've already disabled a good chunk of stuff that would normally cause performance issues in a standard survival world.

golden gust
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Now especially with craftbukkit disabling an optimisation mojang added there, he cost is no longer trivial

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I'm not talking about operations like redstone, etc

marble lark
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Now especially with craftbukkit disabling an optimisation mojang added there

Bruh moment

golden gust
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I'm talking about the inherent resource cost of just having a world loaded

marble lark
golden gust
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caused some side-effects elsewhere

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think that there was a note on it

marble lark
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rip

wide chasm
golden gust
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I've seen most timing reports indicate like .5-2ms pct for those types of worlds

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spigot disabling the logic which prevents those worlds from ticking when empty ofc doesn't help given that the base load for a world to be functioning is higher now

torn kelp
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what is better for minecraft servers, ryzen or intel?

wide chasm
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You have to be more specific about which type of processor - the newest intel processor will outperform the oldest ryzen and vice versa.

tropic flame
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(+ isn't Ryzen a series of APUs? servers don't need graphics)

golden gust
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Nobody I know has yet to actually compare the two in a sane environment so best you're gonna get is fanboys for whatever platform they wanna fanboy over

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I mean, yea, many of the ryzen chips have GPUs, so do the intel chips, that's 100% irrelevant

torn kelp
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because i want to create minecraft server and i dont know what should i be searching for

wide chasm
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What type of server do you want and what's your budget?

torn kelp
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golden gust
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In my experience, intel is generally more reliable and predicable, ryzen does have an edge but can shit the bed in mysterious/unknown ways

untold copper
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here have an interesting question

marble lark
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All I know is that everyone likes to shit on intel nowadays about transistor size

minor badge
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Never had issues w Ryzen GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

torn kelp
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you can recommend some interesting vps or hosting?

golden gust
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bloom, dedimc

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VPS for MC is trash

magic river
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Intel uses twice the power to get Ryzen levels of performance

golden gust
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not my power bill

marble lark
golden gust
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idk what it is with ryzen CPUs, they generall seem fine but I see the odd timing report here and there where the machine is just seemingly shitting itself in amazing ways

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jre

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I mean, it's literally in the name

wide chasm
void void
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java runtime environment

wispy blade
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jdk comes with the jre so /shrug

golden gust
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I mean, you don't have to compile shit to run the server

magic river
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It's kind of confusing having the OpenJDK JRE

golden gust
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But, if you're expecting to have to compile shit, you probs want the JDK

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correct, unless you wanna pay oracle

magic river
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Not unless you want to give Oracle money

wide chasm
marble lark
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JRE -> Java Runtime Environment
JDK -> Java Development Kit

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technically you can run the server with a jdk installation anyway since it comes with the JRE

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depends on if you write plugins for your server

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in that case the JRE would be better suited for you, I doubt you'd need the compiler to be installed on a serrver host

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you can use either one really but the JRE would take up less space

magic river
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Crap my key is in the shot, now someone can clone it

warm anchor
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Wtf thatโ€™s like $300000

magic river
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I don't even remember what that key is for ๐Ÿ˜›

warm anchor
plucky sparrow
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what gpu is it

frank otter
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Damn that's a nice thing

magic river
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I got this from a cat on discord, dunno what black magic they did to get one

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3070

plucky sparrow
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nicee

magic river
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I can finally run my monitors at full spec

plucky sparrow
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a lung

magic river
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2160p, 10-bit, 144Hz

frank otter
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reject gpu, return to igpu gang

marble lark
frank otter
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I should say dgpu but hey

magic river
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It was more than MSRP but less than an arm and a leg

marble lark
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I promise I'm just curious and not going to steal it while you're asleep

magic river
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Just had to get on my knees for a minute ๐Ÿ˜›

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(to take the photo, that table is short)

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That's how this one got bought too

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Not bestbuy but yeah

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Physical store I think

warm anchor
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REMEMBER the backup

magic river
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I just woke up and took photos of the unboxing for insurance reasons, now it's time for breakfast then install

plucky sparrow
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wait that's new

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take photos for insurance reasons? damn

quasi valley
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Of course you do

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imagine the postal service threw your package against a well and you're blamed for breaking it, no refund for you

magic river
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Yeah I took pictures of the box it came in, it sitting in that box after I peeling some of the packing material back, the GPU box, the GPU sitting in the box, then different angles of the GPU like what I showed here

plucky sparrow
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just record a vid

magic river
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I didn't see any noticeable damage though so all I'm really doing is recording that I broke it if anything goes wrong ๐Ÿ˜›

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Hard to record a vid when you need two hands to pick the thing up ๐Ÿ˜›

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I'm kind of worried it won't fit in my case

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No, bad, stop

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Don't give Oracle money

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Oh, yeah, I forgot Oracle does OpenJDK builds too, they just don't like to tell anyone ๐Ÿ˜›

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Anyway, it'd be a lot simpler to just get https://adoptopenjdk.net/

AdoptOpenJDK provides prebuilt OpenJDK binaries from a fully open source set of build scripts and infrastructure. Supported platforms include Linux, macOS, Windows, ARM, Solaris, and AIX.

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Or I guess it's https://adoptium.net/ now

Eclipse Adoptium provides prebuilt OpenJDK binaries from a fully open source set of build scripts and infrastructure. Supported platforms include Linux, macOS, Windows, ARM, Solaris, and AIX.

twin lagoon
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.java16

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
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read theguide

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it spoonfeeds you adoptopenjdk commands

magic river
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They don't have a one-liner

twin lagoon
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no that's centos

magic river
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Wait you use arch?

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Just get it from AUR or whatever

twin lagoon
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does it now?

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oh

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corretto is fine

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yeah that's centos based just follow the guide

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my guy you chose an enterprise operating system

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you're not going the easy route

marble lark
quasi valley
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Don't use arch if you want 2 line commands for everything

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easy

mossy vessel
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All my homies use zypper michele, please don't insult us.

twin lagoon
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no arch would give you a single command

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debian / ubuntu

magic river
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Oh yeah Amazon does builds too

twin lagoon
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20 is LTS

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it'll be supported by anything

marble lark
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20 is quite some time away though

twin lagoon
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it's been out for a year

marble lark
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dafuq

upbeat falconBOT
twin lagoon
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wat

cyan marsh
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99 luftballons

twin lagoon
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we're talking about ubuntu 20.04

marble lark
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oh

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Facepalm

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sorry lol had a brainfart

untold copper
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day #96 of trying to get abs: did 50 minute of lower body and core strength and conditioning

worn crest
worn crest
untold copper
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ty

worn crest
marble lark
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aye xd

worn crest
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Ah no since Tuesday so no delayed onset. Whole time

magic river
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If it started immediately after the workout you probably should have had someone look at it

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If it's still happening at the same level today you definitely should have had someone look at it

worn crest
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Nah less than a day after athletics

marble lark
magic river
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Sure, which is how you can tell DOMS from tearing something ๐Ÿ˜›

marble lark
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fair enough

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it always happened quite quickly for me for some reason

magic river
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iirc it can start as soon as you've cooled down

marble lark
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oh

magic river
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You just usually don't notice until after you've been stationary for a while (which for a lot of people is when they go to bed)

marble lark
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maybe the slightly faster onset is partially cause I'm also flat footed I guess

spiral kayak
vernal moth
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Ass maven central to your repos

magic river
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Always ass maven

spiral kayak
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I use Gradle

magic river
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Maven repos != maven build system

spiral kayak
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But the repo from Minecraft is broken

magic river
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Gradle uses the same repos

spiral kayak
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Solution NBT?

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I need it for custom skulls

void void
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ufw allow <port>

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if you use ufw ^

vernal moth
golden gust
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ports are "open" by default

vernal moth
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Shouldn't need to reply on internals for custom skins

golden gust
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if you're using a firewall, I'd hope you know how to use it...

magic river
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Unless someone did ufw enable

unkempt drift
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You can def add auth lib to your project. I do it in at least two of mine

vernal moth
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It's failing cause it doesn't find the transitive dependency

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Cause they don't have maven central

unkempt drift
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Well thatโ€™s the problem then. But mini is right, use Paperโ€™s PlayerProfile API

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No need to extra libraries, or nms or anything

mossy vessel
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1.5.21 is old af

twin lagoon
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assuming you're using oracle cloud

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need to open ports outside of your server

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well, you don't have a firewall enabled by default on ubuntu

coral linden
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Do yโ€™all know a plugin thatโ€™ll let me add a cap to how many enchants there can be on an item

void void
coral linden
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Ty lad

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Much appreciated

left swift
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Ay lad

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Thanks cuzzo

spiral kayak
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But I don't want to use the paper api

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I want to support raw spigot

mossy vessel
quasi valley
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Sorry for your loss, then

spiral kayak
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I want to publish it on spigotmc

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Sry

vernal moth
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Sir, this is the paper discord

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We don't mention that name here

marble lark
left swift
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Omg is that the kennytelevision from Grammy award winning ViaVersion in this papermc general chat currently??!?!

quasi valley
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Yes, and I'm here to help you with your mana problem, finally

spiral kayak
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I love paper too

left swift
golden gust
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I mean, we have all this API and people want support to not use said API

spiral kayak
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Yeah because then I can't publish it

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I want to use it

mossy vessel
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All my homies love using Mojang's very odd-to-use maven repository for 1.8 artifacts.

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Publish it to dbo, they don't care which platform sth works on

left swift
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The only people that read my name as no man ass are the same ones who post screenshots of timings in paperhelp

left swift
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The problem here is you have 9 players

mossy vessel
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20 TPS, 16% loss so you have 4 TPS?

left swift
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Turn off server and see if it helps

spiral kayak
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I am lost :(

left swift
#

I found you!

#

What do I get

void void
#

not even my server

marble lark
left swift
#

The weirdest part is how they get a second s

spiral kayak
#

The best Minecraft experience:
Paper Server, Sodium client :)

left swift
#

Nice!

magic river
#

Don't forget starlight on the client

#

May as well toss lithium in there too

marble lark
#

I wish Paper could somehow also optimize the client

#

:/

#

ditch OpenGL return to Vulkan

#

yeah that's not how the meme works does it

magic river
#

I don't think starlight fixes the bug where you get FPS stutter when crossing chunk boundaries but it makes relighting a chunk fast enough you probably won't notice it anymore

worn crest
unkempt drift
#

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

left swift
#

Get control if it!

unkempt drift
#

I love the โ€œenhanced imageโ€

spiral kayak
#

F

#

To that child

marble lark
#

lmfao

spiral kayak
#

This child makes bugusing with the new spyglasses

worn ember
#

i like how the image of him is also taken through a telescope

void void
unkempt drift
void void
#

What has he seen

spiral kayak
#

WAIT

twin lagoon
#

@waxen panther koriLaugh

spiral kayak
#

Paper repo has Mojang authlib

#

๐ŸŽ‰

#

the newest

scenic kite
#

dunno why you would use spigot instead of paper

spiral kayak
#

for compatible reasons for people who are dump ๐Ÿ™‚

#

and you aren't allowed to publish on spigotmc if its not compatible

scenic kite
#

uff

spiral kayak
#

ja sry

scenic kite
#

kein problem

spiral kayak
#

yes sry

#

haha xd

scenic kite
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

worn ember
#

paperlib to the rescue

mossy vessel
#

Not like spigot is the only platform you can publish sth to

spiral kayak
#

you mean github releases?

#

but there nobody find it

worn ember
#

if dbo gets another owner one more time i'm blocking that url

spiral kayak
#

and songoda is shit

worn ember
#

who owns dbo now? Amazon right?

mossy vessel
#

Whatever you choose and establish is what will work out.

#

Overwolf

worn ember
#

bruh

worn ember
#

use the wiki lol

spiral kayak
#

okay danke

scenic kite
#

kein problem

spiral kayak
#

but there is no skull dings

#

bei paperlib

scenic kite
#

well

#

then F

unkempt drift
#

(Use Paper)

spiral kayak
#

will ich ja, but I cant

#

this is my zwickmรผhle

worn ember
#

(contribute it)

marble lark
spiral kayak
#

yeah thats the problem

mossy vessel
#

I don't want anyone to go to my yt channel lol

spiral kayak
#

on spigotmc there are the most people

worn ember
#

if ur lucky they'll google it, and end up on dbo or other sites but other than that

#

spigots plugin search sucks ass anyway

spiral kayak
#

yeah

#

google: your plugin site:spigotmc.org

worn ember
#

i literally never find what i search for in that search bar

marble lark
#

like it or not it's still the place people go to the most

mossy vessel
#

I started deploying a new project to dbo and gh back in march, dbo tracks 3.3k downloads till today, whatever platform you choose and stick to, people will use.

spiral kayak
#

whats dbo?

worn ember
#

my rtp plugin has 10k on spigot kek

mossy vessel
marble lark
#

is what happens when you have a monopoly on the server platforms for a long time

spiral kayak
#

oh okay

marble lark
spiral kayak
#

but buckit is old

mossy vessel
#

More actively than the spigot forums

worn ember
#

i wouldnt say that tbh

marble lark
#

that is genuinely surprising to me not gonna lie

spiral kayak
#

last news 2019

worn ember
#

plugins still get uploaded there

mossy vessel
#

Yes, the forums is just news KappaLaugh

formal turret
#

I upload mine on spigot and dbo

spiral kayak
#

I uploaded it on github and smc

worn ember
#

does dbo have an api for uploads?

marble lark
mossy vessel
#

yes ded

formal turret
#

I believe so

worn ember
#

ok i'm switching

mossy vessel
#

My only reason to use it PepeLaugh

spiral kayak
#

bukkit was a good platform

formal turret
#

And you can make like 3 dollars off ads kek

worn ember
#

its all still bukkit bro, just extended bukkit

spiral kayak
#

yes, but the base is dead

#

lost place xd

mossy vessel
#

That doesn't matter when your forums thread has 5k hits after a couple of days and suffers with a few hundred on spigot.

spiral kayak
#

okay, I will publish it there ๐Ÿ™‚

marble lark
#

it wasn't just a good platform it's pretty much the pioneer for Minecraft PC servers based on original Mojang code (Yeah I don't like calling it Java Edition go away >:C)

formal turret
#

Ya I think my plugins on dbo have more downloads than on spigot

worn ember
#

smh dependabot spamming my mail

spiral kayak
#

can I use github actions to publish it there?

mossy vessel
#

dbo is just an old frontend, lots of people use it thru curseforge and its apps.

tawny stream
#

hi everyone, everytime a player disconnects I have this warning https://bpa.st/F5DA do you think it's important?

mossy vessel
#

Which also counts.

tawny stream
#

it's about language apparently

marble lark
spiral kayak
#

yeah

#

true

worn ember
#

i just wish sponge was more popular lol

spiral kayak
#

the old good times

mossy vessel
#

I wish dbo's upload api would take an additional field for snapshots smh

marble lark
#

(In terms of gameplay and mechanics I should add not plugins)

worn ember
#

wait, so curse owns dbo but you still gotta log in with twitch?

mossy vessel
#

Overwolf owns it all

worn ember
#

overwolf sorry

mossy vessel
#

But hey, every kid that uses their launcher has a twitch account you can oauth2 into

marble lark
#

I just ate my fingernail by accident and now it's scratching my throat oh fuck oh god

worn ember
#

where do you even find the api docs?

spiral kayak
#

does it mean I can publish it on curseforge and it will be automatically on bukkit.org?

worn ember
#

thanks

mossy vessel
warm anchor
marble lark
#

A part of it that I cut off prior

worn ember
#

its really confusing how decentralized that entire clusterfuck is tbh

twin lagoon
marble lark
#

how

#

am i supposed to vomit it back up

warm anchor
#

Open up your mouth and put phone camera in??

marble lark
#

ate as in i swallowed it

#

;-;

warm anchor
#

Itโ€™s ok tis mostly just keratin so itโ€™s like vitamins

marble lark
#

was just staring at it for no reason and then I thought it was a good idea to inhale through my mouth really hard

worn ember
#

Thanks for sharing

twin lagoon
worn ember
warm anchor
marble lark
#

you're welcome for the nightmare fuel ded

warm anchor
#

I would give you gold if I can afford it

spiral kayak
#

My plugin is in review on course forge

left swift
#

rieLewd omg me and michael share discord servers rieLewd

ashen cliff
#

Feel sorry for you bro.

warm anchor
#

Krusic join when??

left swift
#

make balkan section

#

he join instantly

ashen cliff
warm anchor
worn ember
#

hah i love that windows xp background banner

warm anchor
#

Wow me and Michael has 14 shared server Hype

twin lagoon
#

weebs

true canyon
warm anchor
twin lagoon
#

literally just allow all traffic both ingress & egress

warm anchor
#

Did you open up on os level and reload firewall

twin lagoon
#

then manage it yourself

warm anchor
#

Sorry I donโ€™t use Ubuntu but have you try it

twin lagoon
#

cool and now the same for ingress

magic river
#

GPU didn't fit in case, had to go pick up a new case

#

Now I'm looking for my mobo manual for all the button and fan hookups

#

First I had to go find the mobo manual

void void
#

did you open the port on the machine itself? afaik ubuntu on oracle cloud has the firewall enabled by default

wispy blade
#

man, shogicraft is almost done

#

and i have no clue how to actually handle players taking turns playing the game kekw

void void
void void
#

Don't forget to save changes with sudo netfilter-persistent save

#

otherwise it'll be reset after the next reboot

wispy blade
#

nah fam

#

gonna use a map instead

marble lark
#

oh I forgot

#

xd

#

where's Shogi's source again? Maybe I can help with it when I'm not busy screwing Paperweight over with my incompetence trying to make useful PRs for Paperweight

worn ember
#

or were you using your old one?

plucky sparrow
#

the new season of Lucifer is epic

marble lark
wispy blade
marble lark
#

you have your command executor set to the main class instead of your command handler class btw

chrome quest
#

So I got annoyed with the logs file being messy with multiple logs for the same day so wrote a simple script to combine all the scripts that belong to the same day.

marble lark
#

wait nevermind I'm blind

#

lmao

wispy blade
#

it just takes a this lol

marble lark
#

yeah didn't see that the first time xd

wispy blade
#

intellij should tell you that though thonk

marble lark
#

I read it on GH i didn't clone it

#

dx

wispy blade
#

s m h

#

wow, 3h30 of actual coding

#

insane

waxen panther
#

wow!

worn ember
waxen panther
#

$80 an hour, minimum 11 hours

wispy blade
#

why do you need exactly $880

worn ember
#

monkaHmm i'm a plugin dev sir best i can do is $0.5/h

waxen panther
#

new balenciagas

marble lark
#

can't imagine sitting through 11 hours of math

#

cause

wispy blade
#

same kekw

marble lark
#

my god

waxen panther
#

pl*gin dev

wispy blade
#

t*ckets dev

mossy vessel
waxen panther
#

I aint takin shit from someone named after herobrine

#

nmf a big man

worn ember
#

Hello, yes sir, this guy right here

wispy blade
#

mmm indentation

mossy vessel
#

This worked two times so far, I'm wondering how long we can continue with that PepeLaugh

wide chasm
#

What is that font?

tropic flame
#

imagine if herobrine was actually villainbrine

wispy blade
waxen panther
#

thatโ€™s maybe the worst ide font Iโ€™ve ever seen

wispy blade
#

it's actually not bad

waxen panther
#

may as well use comic sans

wide chasm
#

There are cursive fonts that are better

worn ember
#

sadly its not for me

wispy blade
#

don't care i like this font

#

got tired of staring at jetbrains mono all day

wide chasm
#

Yeah, JetBrains mono is garbage

wispy blade
#

roboto mono is where it's at

marble lark
#

y'all are missing out on the one and only Eclipse font

wispy blade
#

eclipse

#

KEKW

marble lark
#

honestly speaking it's not a bad IDE from my time using it but it's far behind IntelliJ

wispy blade
#

it's about as good as java-editor imo

#

yall have never used java-editor ๐Ÿ˜”

worn ember
wispy blade
#

ykw

#

fuck it

#

switching to java-editor for the rest of the night, will tell you how it goes

marble lark
wispy blade
#

why do that when i have JAVA-EDITOR

lament patio
#

Wtf

mossy vessel
#

No, I don't like torturing myself, so I stick to good tooling.

wispy blade
#

it doesnt even support opening folders

#

aka glorified npp

#

oh and it defaults to german for some reason kekw

mossy vessel
#

Only germans can come up with such an abomination

marble lark
marble lark
wispy blade
#
  • md_5, probably
worn ember
#

NOTBEANS

#

tbh netbeans isnt so bad

#

i used it for my xml classes (yes that was a thing and i dont want to talk about it)

mossy vessel
#

xml classes? Tell me more, I'm absolutely interested!

wispy blade
#

WHY

#

of all things to get taught about

#

why xml

plucky sparrow
#

woah

#

what's this new design in steam

#

they've redesigned the downloads page

twin lagoon
#

been in beta for a while

#

there's a new storage manager page too

plucky sparrow
#

oh my lord

#

its so hot

meager halo
#

is there mod mail?

#

someones running that steam account scam in this server

mossy vessel
#

/modmail

meager halo
#

thx

marble lark
#

absolutely painful

wispy blade
#

for webdev i just default to vscode

#

cuz it's got more than enough extensions to make it very solid for that line of work]

marble lark
#

webdev ain't my thing xd

wispy blade
#

same

#

hate JS

marble lark
#

had to use bootstrap for a project once and i ended up just doing everything myself

waxen panther
#

line of work

#

ok naomi

marble lark
#

no idea how to use bootstrap

waxen panther
wispy blade
#

ok bromc

#

try telling me being a web developer is not different from being a minecraft plugin developer

waxen panther
#

no i just didn't realise you were now a professional web dev

wispy blade
#

im not

#

lmfao

#

far from it

waxen panther
#

its your line of work tho ??!??!?

wispy blade
#

no?????

waxen panther
#

hmmmmmm!

wispy blade
#

have you seen the monkegame website? kekw

waxen panther
#

this is certainly something

wispy blade
#

exactly.

waxen panther
#

" text-justify: center;"

twin lagoon
wispy blade
#

so i ask again: am i a pro web dev?

waxen panther
#

ur the one calling it your line of work ๐Ÿ™„

#

@twin lagoon x

twin lagoon
wispy blade
#

never said it was MY line of work

waxen panther
#

hmmmmmmmm

#

minify your css wtf

#

center is also not a valid property for text justify kek

wispy blade
#

i am NOT a web dev

marble lark
waxen panther
#

speed is life

#

those 4 nano seconds will lose thousands of monkegame customers

fossil patio
wispy blade
waxen panther
#

no i do not ๐Ÿ™‚

twin lagoon
#

๐Ÿ™‚

waxen panther
#

๐Ÿ˜

wispy blade
#

โ˜น๏ธ

#

man frowning2 is so sad

void void
#

bg can be done with css instead of a png, literally unusable

#

smh my head

wispy blade
#

i know

#

all i did was the fucking buttons at the top lmfao

#

also the css used to be in the html files ๐Ÿ‘€

waxen panther
#

good

#

make webpack do that for you

#

less files = better ๐Ÿ˜Ž

wispy blade
#

๐Ÿ‘€

waxen panther
#

paul gunna rewrite it in svelte like the sigma he is

wispy blade
#

check my about me, nerd

fossil patio
#

I'm making the PR now

#

just a moment

wispy blade
#

oh no kekw

untold copper
#

whatchu need

#

it looks ok

#

lol

wispy blade
#

make webpack do that for you
broc, like i said, i am not a webdev

marble lark
#

y'all go ahead and add 10GB of js to her site

#

C:

#

minified that is

untold copper
#

idk JS yet

wispy blade
#

it's only my domain tbh kekw

untold copper
#

but i can to html annd css

#

lol

wispy blade
#

don't start on JS unless you REALLY hate yourself

untold copper
#

ok.

#

i will start on js soon.

marble lark
fossil patio
#

So I crashed the github IDE lol

marble lark
#

PHP is disliked and looked down on

waxen panther
#

web ides are the future trolllaugh

void void
#

as someone who uses js a lot, it fucking sucks

marble lark
#

and js is treated like it's a spawn of satan

waxen panther
#

js is fine if you use it sanely

#

it just lets you be very messy

wispy blade
#

JS: scope? what's that?

waxen panther
#

doesn't mean it has to be messy though

fossil patio
#

not using const let smh

wispy blade
#

explicit typing >>>>

marble lark
#

the thing i didn't get is the prototype object model

fossil patio
#

not using typescript smh

marble lark
#

can't get the hang of it

#

looks like I'll have to stick class based objects for now

wispy blade
#

oh yeah, JS has classes kekw

fossil patio
#

it's not too bad - basically just binds all the functions/values you assign to the prototype to each instance of the object thats created

#

but use classes, because they're better lol

untold copper
#

why no proper caps

#

re

fossil patio
#

never mind, i guess i won't PR

#

they don't even accept reasonably sized assets

wispy blade
#

293 MB

#

wtf

waxen panther
marble lark
#

internally it's just turned into prototypes when you run it

waxen panther
#

welllllllllll

fossil patio
#

internally they're just classes, then once you touch prototypes it deopts them lol

marble lark
#

oh

waxen panther
#

what paul said

marble lark
#

hmm

untold copper
#

why the fuck can i edit this

fossil patio
#

you can see the perf difference of using prototypes vs classes in a modern js engine very easily

untold copper
twin lagoon
#

hello paul

marble lark
#

i swear i remember reading that somewhere though, probably was an outdated V8 thing

wispy blade
#

i did not make that part of the site

#

๐Ÿ—ฟ

fossil patio
twin lagoon
untold copper
#

what can you fix it with

fossil patio
#

no nitro, but this is for you michael <3 <3

wispy blade
#

JS

waxen panther
#

michael has infinite nitro gifts

untold copper
#

nah i was thinking replace the input with a cool button

fossil patio
#

i don't really like paying for nitro even though i like having emojis, but people have been very nice with the gifts lately

waxen panther
#

i was thinking of taking a nap personally

fossil patio
#

come to the mall with me

waxen panther
#

swimming to france now

untold copper
#

@wispy blade dont mind me ima just propose some changes and yoink some buttons from the internet

magic river
#

Ugh my computer has LEDs all over it now

#

Three fans with blue LEDs and the GPU has RGB ones

marble lark
magic river
#

Technically my mobo has RGBs too

#

Finally

untold copper
#

...

#

why do you need that

magic river
#

Why not?

ashen cliff
#

To slowly sip power from the grid.

unkempt drift
#

smh only 16:9 aspect ratio

magic river
#

Time for me to try cyberpunk again I think ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Not because it's fun but to see my framerate

#

Or maybe Control so I can look at something that's good

plucky sparrow
#

cyberbugs

waxen panther
#

only a 3070 smh

untold copper
#

"only"

plucky sparrow
#

imagine not having an rt 3030

#

pff

twin lagoon
#

@waxen panther koriHug

mossy vessel
#

math tutor

marble lark
twin lagoon
#

you hurt my eyes

untold copper
#

wtf

mossy vessel
#

brocc teach me math

untold copper
#

broccolai is beautiful .

marble lark
untold copper
#

ooooooooooh you're talking about michelle

#

ye shit on him all you want

twin lagoon
#

wtf

marble lark
#

lmaooo

untold copper
#

dont touch brocc

marble lark
#

mans rocking that sweet Genos profile C:

untold copper
#

ye

#

genos epic

magic river
#

Ok, 3070 tested, now I can go back to only using it for cookie clicker and youtube

wispy blade
#

have you bought it on steam though

magic river
#

Yep

wispy blade
#

epic

magic river
#

I've been spamming my friends with achievements

wispy blade
#

i've lost my save :c

#

beatmania IIDX 27 BISTROVER best bakery ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

void void
#

somebody know how to fix diamonds generation? (im about clay and gravel mining)

#

and lazuli for sure

golden gust
#

you can configure the seeds in paper.yml

void void
#

i know about custom generators, but i want more vanilla like method

void void
golden gust
#

Don't ping

#

it can be mitigated by changing the seed to make it harder

#

The primary issue here is that different gen features share the same seed, which on a game where chunk generation is highly determinate...

royal kernel
#

Bruh, why do people keep pinging Zcat when his name says dont lol

magic river
#

50W on the GPU to run cookie clicker and youtube LUL

marble lark
#

likely people don't realize quoting him will automatically ping unless disabled

#

either that or they're lazy to disable it i dunno

royal kernel
#

Oh there probably new to discord I guess

wispy blade
#

or kids

#

discord, disable ping on reply by default when

magic river
wispy blade
magic river
#

Time to fry the card with furmark

#

250-280W power draw with furmark, TDP is 220W but I guess I am looking at board power

#

GPU Chip power draw is bouncing around 220W so that checks out

#

GPU Temp seems stable at 65C, what I'm guessing is the VRMs is at 75C

#

Ok then, GPU tinkering done since I'm not going to try to overclock or undervolt

mossy vessel
#

Which one did you have before?

magic river
#

1070

mossy vessel
#

Oic, a real upgrade

magic river
#

Didn't quite need an upgrade yet but I got these nice 4K monitors and I'd have to game at 1080p with the old card

#

And the old card didn't do DP 1.4 so I couldn't do 2160p 10-bit 144Hz

mossy vessel
#

If I get a 3070/80/etc I need a new case as well

topaz mortar
#

Yeah my 4k display is not fired well by my 1070. I'm looking for a RX 6800 XT

magic river
#

It's been 4 years since I got the 1070 so it was basically a year ahead of when I'd normally want to upgrade

mossy vessel
#

Currently sitting on a 1060 smh

topaz mortar
#

I bought my 1070 in 2016. And the only thing which holds me back is the current price situation.

worn ember
#

60ยฐC idle

topaz mortar
#

If I win the AMD Lottery and the shop has 6800 XT in stock, I'll upgrade.

worn ember
#

are gpu's still insanely overpriced?

mossy vessel
#

I'd take your 1070 and return some stickers in return ;p

magic river
#

1070 is going to my cousin probably

static badge
#

are we comparing who has the worst GPU

#

750Ti representing

magic river
#

In a month or two anyway once I've made sure this one is fine

#

GPUs are still insane, yeah

worn ember
#

guess i'll use this one till it melts then

topaz mortar
#

Yeah they are overpriced. At AMD shop you can get a 6800 XT for ~600โ‚ฌ if you've luck.

magic river
#

Even if you get a GPU direct from a store it'll probably be just below double MSRP

mossy vessel
#

3080 is fancy but would prolly sit in its box for another couple of months until I can bother with a new case and games I can actually utilize it for lol

worn ember
#

i can play most game on normal graphics but it does go full throttle

topaz mortar
#

My case can hold up to a 32 cm gpu.

worn ember
#

i'd need a wider boy to fit anything bigger

magic river
#

The case I bought was missing the crossbar on the card slots

worn ember
#

i always ziptie the card to the frame lol

magic river
#

It had the little plastic piece that clamps the bar down but no bar so I had to put screws in the GPU to hold it down

worn ember
#

just in case

magic river
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Which, I mean, I wanted to do anyway since it's a vertical setup (old case wasn't) but it was annoying to have it just be missing

pearl vapor
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Does anybody know how to make a plugin like this where you can click on the icons and then post them in chat. I got the resource pack stuff figured it out I just want to know how to make a plugin which posts the message with the clickable emojis.

magic river
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Adventure API

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(which is kind of a shit name really)

worn ember
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glad someone agrees

topaz mortar
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ResourcePack, placeholders(replacements) and adventure components with font specified.

waxen panther
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everyone on the minehut hussle these days huh

foggy veldt
magic river
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I don't think Master Chief Collection has a modding API

waxen panther
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minecraft championships has a modding api ? ๐Ÿคจ

limber knotBOT
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I mean, you can do the same with bungee-chat

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runs

meager tusk
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adventure is such a random name for a chat api

quasi valley
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Idriz is such a random name for a human

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how does that feel?

meager tusk
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Good.

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Makes me feel unique.

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Thanks Kenny.

quasi valley
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You are smolLove

willow robin
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The clearlag command is in paper discord right?

mossy vessel
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Don't betray me kenni

magic river
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Oh hey WSLg is a Windows 11 feature now

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Started off as a W10 21H2 feature but that branch got changed to be W11 and the real W10 21H2 is a pretty minor update

quasi valley
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Oh wow I didnโ€™t know that was in dev

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That might actually be the first solid reason for me to consider upgrading my main PC earlier than like 2023

vernal moth
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Lmfao, I got a broken chat in WhatsApp with two friends

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When I try to enter a char, WhatsApp crashes with an NPE

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Quality software

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What's extra fun is that Whatsapp uses kotlin, at least partially

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So managing to throw an NPE is quite an impressive feat

foggy veldt
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Jid cool rapper def recommend

vernal moth
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Also, I hope those line numbers aren't real

mossy vessel
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The line numbers are quite sth

unkempt drift
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yikes, 500k lines

vernal moth
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Jid is actually short for just idiotic developers

warm anchor
mossy vessel
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Typical Spigot plugin; writing everything down in one class.

limber knotBOT
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can you crash other people's app? ๐Ÿ‘€

vernal moth
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I bet that's from the obfuscator

limber knotBOT
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reminds me of the sms exploit which allowed a remote code execution with some random cahracter

vernal moth
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I am also on beta branch so idk maybe that's it

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Nah no special char, just a group of friends, last message was a TikTok link that I viewed hours ago, now wanted to write that I successfully arrived home without dying and it crashes as soon as I press a char on my keyboard

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Actually I could try another keyboard

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I can still send gifs btw so that's good

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Nope, NPE too

foggy veldt
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I know the perfect gif to say youโ€™ve reached home

vernal moth
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anime

waxen panther
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an*me

plucky sparrow
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damn

untold copper
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@potent fossil season 2 doctor is the best

potent fossil
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You mean the new series?

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So 10th doctor, David Tennant?

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Sounds like him