BRO!
#general
meager tusk
ashen cliff
BRO!
nimble depot
:thonk:
left swift
Idriz is back from their Serbian mandated vacation?
mystic narwhal
hi
cosmic raft
Bloody song stuck in my head
ashen cliff
Bro. Share.
cosmic raft
ashen cliff
Hate the video, but the song is good.
ancient bolt
worn ember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orJSJGHjBLI
man at some point i heard that song 4 times a day
everywhere i went it was playing lol
warm anchor
Ded you have a speaker in four bathroom??
ashen cliff
Yes.
worn ember
Ded you have a speaker in four bathroom??
no but if you play the radio loud enough it passes through
left swift
That's what they do for kidney stones
worn ember
That's what they do for kidney stones
they play ed sheeran on a loud stereo?
void void
Yes
worn ember
cool
left swift
Thanks
meager tusk
Idriz is back from their Serbian mandated vacation?
Too far.
left swift
Yo idriz
worn ember
Yo idriz
limpid comet
Yo idriz
formal turret
Yo idriz
magic river
Twitter
cold crescent
Is CMI worth 15 bucks ?
warm anchor
I wouldnt use it even if you pay me $15
The project reminds me of the video codec packs you used to get from the early 2000s. It's useful but you also get a bunch of junks
cold crescent
According to the plugin reviews, 90% is 5 star.
But they said its hated
warm anchor
I never trust reviews espcially on spigot
cold crescent
True, I noticed its so bulky & contains lots of features that you don't even need.
warm anchor
coz it can be removed/and the average of the user there is like 12
cold crescent
I honestly just need a good chat formatter, other than EXChat
royal kernel
Dont you love it when random people hop into your dm’s
warm anchor
if they are advertising and from this server, you can let the mod know
royal kernel
Thanks, it was just a rando from another discord server
tropic flame
The project reminds me of the video codec packs you used to get from the early 2...
at least the video codec packs were useful
get K-Lite and in the installer you can choose only the ones you want
pretty lit 👌
- a fork of MPC-HC that's actually updated lmao
warm anchor
Thanksfully VLC come
tropic flame
sure... but maybe for other things outside of VLC
if I want to use the updated MPC-HC fork
pale hare
OI
tropic flame
hello
mellow warren
@zenith badge you don’t get to have fun
zenith badge
<@!137739170390081536> you don’t get to have fun
warm anchor
Are you a bedwar pro? I see you have good YT video @zenith badge
warm anchor
wow nice
sinful depot
so, silly question, but since the papermc.io website id down currently where should i go to get the latest 1.17.1 mc paper JAR file?
unkempt drift
does the API still work?
sinful depot
TLDR friends and I decided to play some minecraft and i wanted to update my MC server and need the updated version :<
unkempt drift
lol
zenith badge
we need to see cloudflare stats soon
warm anchor
You never realize how many dl paper has per minute until website goes down 
zenith badge
fr
its not even users only though
applications that use the API like server panels are effected too
flat oriole
Iris is amazing
magic river
I thought they were calling it Xe these days
jade dome
hello
i don't know in what channel i must ask, sorry if i'm not in the correct channel, but i need help
when i place too many objects with lores and names in a shulker, the server kicks me out
does anyone know how to fix it?
untold copper
Is CMI worth 15 bucks ?
no
tropic flame
no plugin is worth 15 bucks
ashen cliff
You mean your wife?
untold copper
yes.
ashen cliff
Also bro, good morning.
ashen cliff
And good night.
untold copper
Also bro, good morning.
gm
untold copper
And good night.
gn 
serene bolt
<http://canihostaminecraftserver.com>
2011
ancient, broken sponsor banner
safe to say it hasn't been updated in a long time and doesn't represent the modern game at all :P
untold copper
i have enough anemo chars tho, sucrose, kazuha
untold copper
c2 succ
ashen cliff
C6!
novel horizon
> 2011
> ancient, broken sponsor banner
safe to say it hasn't been updated in a ...
idk how that person found it even
why does it still exist though
like they still pay for it
serene bolt
it's owned by PhonicUK which is the McMyAdmin / AMP server panel person, probably just sitting on the domain because it's a good one to have and doesn't really care much about the site contents itself
novel horizon
Yeah, you're probably right, but still, people using it and finding it, damn
thorny totem
lol I'm still using MCMA2 despite being unsupported for years since he worked on AMP
No one knows the delay between MSA account code unlocks? I migrated almost all of my alts but still 50 left to unlock n' migrate xD
serene bolt
that's a lot of minecraft accounts... what do you need 50+ accounts for? :P
warm anchor
how else are you gonna keep a 50 concurrent player count?? Faking number on MOTD??
😎
potent fossil
that's a lot of minecraft accounts... what do you need 50+ accounts for? :P
says they migrated almost all with 50 left to go. implying they potentially have many more than that lol
smh
earnest geode
oh no not again
solid sapphire
tf when playit uses mumbai tunnel server
even though bangalore server has less latency
cosmic raft
@potent fossil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmERHhd4urk
potent fossil
insert jammin pepe
cosmic raft
potent fossil
insert hyper jammin pepe
remote pelican
guys I know this may be not related here but can an AFK minecraft account drag the TPS down to its knees?
potent fossil
not the account itself but i know ppl like to afk next to farms, and then farms can certainly do that
potent fossil
theres not enough information to know, you'd have to inspect a timings report. i guess there is a chance it's a bot and its client is spamming packets but i have no idea
wispy blade
h
mental meadow
mental meadow
cute
mental meadow
over
strange raven
probably a weird question but does anyone else ever just like
feel like somethings crawling ont hem
fuckin hate that feeling
wispy blade
yeah
nova plume
Same
strange raven
it just keeps happening
wispy blade
god i hate headlines sometimes
"Father stabbed woman calls neighbour in a panic"
did the father stab the woman or is it the father of the stabbed woman
strange raven
what
potent fossil
"Father stabbed woman calls neighbour in a panic"
if it were the 2nd, it would say father of
so by the title alone the father stabbed the woman
wispy blade
it's way more ambiguous in dutch
potent fossil
bruh
wispy blade
somehow
potent fossil
then specify you translated it, cause i'd have no way of knowing that lol
wispy blade
it's quite literally the same sentence
potent fossil
obviously it's not if it's more ambiguous in dutch but whatever
i've got physics to do
wispy blade
hf
void void
ㅇ0ㅇ
golden gust
looks tasty
wispy blade
so, eat up?
golden gust
what flavour is it? mind double checking for me?
wispy blade
probably aluminium foil and plastic
meager tusk
cringe convo
ashen cliff
Very.
gusty egret
Man I thought geyser’s support is crazy late night… looks like PaperMC is flat out much much crazier
I occasionally check in PaperMC support to learn stuff…
potent fossil
consider, if you will, that we arent awake in here to support people but because we love to shitpost all night long every night
😎
gusty egret
Much is the same in the helper channels in Geyser lol
wispy blade
all day*
potent fossil
all day all night what's the difference anymore, i havent slept in weeks
wispy blade
D:
waxen panther
wispy blade
hi broc
gusty egret
Difference is that we get a lot of kids who are probably not yet ready to run servers, but are, thanks to free hosting like Aternos… you guys get people who probably shouldn’t be running servers, period. Lol
wispy blade
yeah
potent fossil
we have plenty of "help im hosting my server on aternos why isn't tps 20"
gusty egret
Lol
gusty egret
Still better than Halix
minor badge
I hate public software :D
potent fossil
mari best mari
golden gust
I hate public Mari
gusty egret
I love public software, just hate free public servers that allocates 32 accounts on 16 threads hahaha
“You each get half a thread and 4gb memory, good luck!”
golden gust
See, minecraft is resource efficent
it contains all the major work to a single thread
gusty egret
Ahahahaa
Honestly it’s not too bad for a small server if they run paper, especially now that Tuinity is merged back… but geyser actually uses a fair bit of resource… and people just comes in and ask why it lags bad when they put 2gb on waterfall and 1gb on each of the 2 servers 😆
gusty egret
~~it contains all the major work to a single thread~~
Fork that!
Anyhow, just here to express gratitude, and solidarity for late night support helpers before I go to bed!
solid sapphire
what flavour is it? mind double checking for me?
electrolite iirc
also update on the dust my allergies kicked in and now my eyelids is basically a golf ball now
so yeah guyess who is not going out for the next week-ish
twin lagoon
@mossy vessel 
mossy vessel
Good morning michele 👀
solid sapphire
Can someone help me giagnose this monitor?
It turns on , shous a dell icon and shows the vga in but after the "Auto select" screen goes it stops
then the only wy to fix it is by unpluging and waiting for a min or 2
novel dirge
can i make so 1.8 players will beable to join a 1.17.1 server?
ashen cliff
ProtocolSupport.
novel dirge
how man
ashen cliff
Download the plugin, install the plugin, pay to the Russian gods, start the server, join.
left swift
asks question
answer
HOW?
vast wedge
meager tusk
Download the plugin, install the plugin, pay to the Russian gods, start the serv...
Russian gods?
God is Serb.
ashen cliff
Synonym bro!
meager tusk
Most legible Slovenian.
ashen cliff
Local farm store.
wind geyser
State Farm
solid siren
ashen cliff
Remove the chunk.
humble prism
am i evil for putting around 20 meowing cats at my friend's base?
worn ember
the fact thats your friends base seems the real crime here
left swift
I mean if they were talking about a country sure
worn ember
left swift
Cant react 2 gs
worn ember
Hello sir, i'm committing tax fraud, but i didnt actually do it cuz i couldnt do it
left swift
It's okay to say the n word if you put a 1 instead of the i because it's not actually spelling the word
worn ember
thats not a valid word tho 
im just fucking with you dude, i think the intentions were pretty clear
wispy blade
btw ded is your rtp finished yet?
wispy blade
lmfao
worn ember
can the people that make rtp plugins at least do it right, so i dont have to deal with it
wispy blade
some people really shouldn't be running a server without knowing basic troubleshooting stepd
left swift
Maybe if u made ur rtp plugin not exactly the same as the shit ones ppl wont get confused
Same name
worn ember
kinda yikes if i change it now tho
left swift
Not really
worn ember
btw ded is your rtp finished yet?
eh, still not happy with the rewrite, so havent released a new version since a couple months ago
wispy blade
shogicraft almost done btw
serene bolt
!ban @cursive iron racism
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Krivakor#4275 (racism) [1 total infraction] -- Puremin0rez#1337.
wispy blade
thanks pure
serene bolt
rich ridge
worn ember
tbh i havent really been doing much programming at all lately, just work related programming
left swift
Does ovh let you cancel a 1 year thing when you call them
wispy blade
been playing shogi over the board a lot lately
left swift
Or do they make you pay the rest of the year still
minor badge
@serene bolt petition to name you lead cutie of moderation
wispy blade
YES
minor badge
worn ember
i think it just cancels when the subscription ends? idk
dont you pay up front anyway?
left swift
They auto renewed my 1 year contract thing without notifying me
worn ember
otherwise probably pay what you used
left swift
left swift
I pay monthly but they make you sign some 1 year deal or something for it
When I went to cancel cuz I'm switching hosts it told me I had to call 
worn ember
probably need to manually verify you're gonna pay all the fees 
cuz you're breaking contract
left swift
Ovh notification system is dogshit
wispy blade
wait ded has money?
worn ember
i have a job bruh
serene bolt
bloom is an excellent host, would definitely recommend, they're out of stock in US most of the time though :(
left swift
Yea I joined their waitlist discord for a east coast server got a 20gb last night
worn ember
left swift
Havent even looked at the panel since I got it lul
worn ember
facebook moment
worn ember
tells me to accept cookies -> redirects to invalid url
wispy blade
also why are you not using ublock origin yet?
meager tusk
why do you have ABP too
wispy blade
exactly
worn ember
cuz more is better
meager tusk
no not really
vernal moth
Clearly
worn ember
no not really
.joke
meager tusk
.kill ded
meager tusk
ouch
worn ember
nice response time
wispy blade
"more is better"
more if statements clearly better
worn ember
yesterday i learned the ublock puts urls in the host file
and redirects to loopback lol
meager tusk
ok
vernal moth
Who added them tho?
worn ember
not me
void void
ublock doesn't touch the hosts file
vernal moth
It doesn't even have perms to do so
^
solid sapphire
wait
worn ember
ig i could check audit logs
void void
you might've put that there yourself
worn ember
what else would block ads if not an adblocker
void void
did you try to block spotify ads in the past by any chance?
solid sapphire
PugBlocker™️
worn ember
hm, i did have a spotify adblocker a while ago, maybe that did it 
now i just have premium
void void
ublock is prevent you from accessing before the page even loads
wispy blade
needing spotify when you can just stream straight from yt 
worn ember
yt quality is trash
void void
ublock is prevent you from accessing before the page even loads
if you allow a temporary bypass, it still won't let you
because of the hosts file block
wispy blade
let me point you towards bandcamp
worn ember
yeah
limber knotBOT
yt quality is good enough for most systems 👀
worn ember
its bitrate is trash and so is its compression
between spotify and lossless i cant hear a difference, but i can hear a difference between yt and spotify
limber knotBOT
it's enough for listening to in the background ¯_(ツ)_/¯
the music I want to actively listen to I just download
btw. for anyone wanting to buy on bandcamp and support artists even more: https://isitbandcampfriday.com/
worn ember
i mainly switched to spotify cuz of the horrible yt algorithm
you'd be listening to the same 20 songs over and over
limber knotBOT
oh yeah, they fucked up their auto play extremely. I wrote my own tool years ago before they added that feature to youtube and it worked better lol
I should fix that up at some point
I just only listen to mixes nowadays so the looping doesn't happen as fast
twin lagoon
now tell me again its not ublock 🙂
because ublock doesn't serve a webserver at 0.0.0.0
worn ember
yeah i looked it up, you cant access the hostfile unless you communicate through an installed native app
twin lagoon
obviously
worn ember
well guess some app did then
twin lagoon
even then it needs administrator privileges
spiral robin
Hello
left swift
Aber
wispy blade
@spiral robin more bentley? 🥺
spiral robin
None
wispy blade
:sob
solid sapphire
:pain:
plucky sparrow
@wispy blade how are you
wispy blade
@plucky sparrow pretty good, you?
plucky sparrow
Can’t complain
magic river
So I have a package that got to our local sorting depot at 4am but still isn't expected to be delivered until monday 😦
magic river
I wonder about that sometimes
But sometimes when packages show like this in their system they do just show up and never show out for delivery
worn ember
weird
thick wharf
Hey, hypothetical question.
https://youtu.be/F8cMZA8J2Hk
If the mod depicted in this video were successfully brought to the Caves and Cliffs update, and you used the full 4096 block height limit... How large do you think the total file size would be if you pregenerated the whole world to an area just shy of where the 64-bit Far Lands begin? (With only a world border separating you from the 64-bit Far Lands)
Just a ballpark estimate, assuming that some level of compression is possible.
upbeat oxide
anyone migrated from 1.8 to 1.16 on a high-traffic server(1000+ online) lately? what was your experience, is the performance comparable at least?
twin lagoon
1000 players on 1 instance?
thick wharf
Oh my God
upbeat oxide
no, preferably in minigames context
twin lagoon
in minigames it wouldn't matter lol
upbeat oxide
hypixel-like servers
twin lagoon
i can't really imagine performance ever being an issue on minigame servers regardless of version
other than plugin issues
upbeat oxide
why? minecraft is sucking an insane amount of cpu, and even a 10-20% regression at scale could cost you a ton of additional hardware
after 1.8 mojang loaded a ton of crap onto the server
twin lagoon
chuck cpu limitations on there and don't use the shit you don't need
upbeat oxide
with each release perf getting only worse
twin lagoon
cpu usage would be fine
thick wharf
Aren't you running Spigot, Paper, Purpur, Sugarcane or something similar?
thick wharf
...I mean, it technically exists, doesn't it?
twin lagoon
it exists but shouldn't be used
thick wharf
I didn't say it's good
twin lagoon
purpur shouldn't be used on a minigames server either
waxen panther
@twin lagoon yeah what do u know about minigames huh!
thick wharf
@upbeat oxide What kind of CPU is your server rocking?
twin lagoon
<@!215448923681062913> yeah what do u know about minigames huh!
What is megagame
upbeat oxide
you mean the cpu model?
waxen panther
what kernal for meggaagame
thick wharf
you mean the cpu model?
DM me a CPU-Z screenshot or something
void void
what kernal for meggaagame
Drip🔥leaf ofc
twin lagoon
and that
void void
lets you go >20 tps
waxen panther
unless you're having only 1 server why the fuck would there be a cpu speed concern
twin lagoon
for all you care you could just chuck a minigame server locked to 1 cpu thread
thick wharf
They said their CPU usage is a problem
twin lagoon
yes and a better cpu won't fix that
upbeat oxide
unless you're having only 1 server why the fuck would there be a cpu speed conce...
as I said...even a 10-20% regression in performance could mean a ton of additional hardware to host the same amount of players
twin lagoon
or a bad cpu
upbeat oxide
it's not about keeping the TPS
thick wharf
I still want to know what kind of CPU they have.
waxen panther
zzzzzzzzz
twin lagoon
as I said...even a 10-20% regression in performance could mean a ton of addition...
it's a valid concern, but i'm also wondering how much cpu 1 instance uses for you
waxen panther
just buy more hardware
thick wharf
And I figure a CPU-Z screenshot would possibly clutter chat, hence DM
twin lagoon
like you could probably just make a 1.17 instance use the same amount of cpu
upbeat oxide
it's a valid concern, but i'm also wondering how much cpu 1 instance uses for yo...
I can probably dig that from my stats
I found 1.8 cpu on minigames to be pretty linear to the amount of online players though
untold meadow
but an increase in player count is an exponential increase in the amount of shit a server has to do
twin lagoon
@untold meadow BEST kezz
untold meadow
BESTEST micahehaheeheleelahahaialahehelell
upbeat oxide
but an increase in player count is an exponential increase in the amount of shit...
yeah but that part seems to round up to almost zero on minigames for some reason
thick wharf
@upbeat oxide Would you be willing to share a CPU-Z screenshot to satisfy my curiosity? :3
untold meadow
round up to zero
upbeat oxide
how is CPU-z a linux tool? lol
thick wharf
Um...
chrome cosmos
neofetch for linux
thick wharf
CPU-Z is a free piece of software with a GUI that tells you everything there is to know about your CPU... But I don't believe there is a Linux version. My bad.
chrome cosmos
there is neofetch
thick wharf
What he said
chrome cosmos
installing software on linux is easier for some softwares
likesudo apt get neofetch
magic river
Hey, hypothetical question.
https://youtu.be/F8cMZA8J2Hk
If the mod depicted in...
Unless the 64-bit limit means something else this would be 332,306,998,946,228,894,438,975,470,231,883,776 blocks
thick wharf
I don't really know anything about Linux 🤐
chrome cosmos
WSL person here
thick wharf
Unless the 64-bit limit means something else this would be 332,306,998,946,228,8...
Er... Um... Okay, that's a bit overkill then.
magic river
I'm assuming the 64-bit limit is the largest whole number a 64-bit floating point value can represent which is 2^53
thick wharf
I think it uses Signed Integers, actually
magic river
No?
thick wharf
For coordinates, not world generation
magic river
Player positions are doubles
thick wharf
Eh....
magic river
World block coordinates are probably longs, don't remember
thick wharf
Did you get to watch the video yet?
magic river
Unless something has changed in recent versions of Minecraft until 1.18 you can actually pack every possible coordinate in a single long though
silver nexus
chrome cosmos
wait until some MF gets 128 bit
thick wharf
I'm just trying to figure out the theoretical filesize needed to pregenerate an entire world using that mod, but with a 4096 block height limit
Assuming that you set the world border so that the Far Lands would be just barely out of reach
magic river
If it's 2^64 instead of 2^53 then the answer is probably "more than all the atoms in the solar system" or something 😛
marble lark
If it's 2^64 instead of 2^53 then the answer is probably "more than all the atom...
but is it larger than the number of subatomic particles in the solar system?
tropic flame
I'm just trying to figure out the theoretical filesize needed to pregenerate an ...
i think you should figure out a hard drive that can hold it first
worn ember
If it's 2^64 instead of 2^53 then the answer is probably "more than all the atom...
when you use math to calculate the probability of getting a mc girlfriend
marble lark
*but is it larger than the number of subatomic particles in the solar system?*
then again with the weirdness that is quantum mechanics I don't know if particles are even particles anymore
thick wharf
i think you should figure out a hard drive that can hold it first
Theoretical.
tropic flame
well, yeah
thick wharf
But you know what, screw the 64-bit mod.
thick wharf
What is the filesize of an entire pregenerated world using vanilla size limits?
Vanilla height limit, vanilla world border, etc
magic river
10,000,000 * 10,000,000 * 96 (arbitrary average generation height, air is free) then compression ratio is about 9
Oh but each block is not a fixed size anymore either
So... complicated
thick wharf
I assume that the file size is already gonna be several terabytes before players start making changes to the world by placing and removing blocks.
thick wharf
HOLY FUCK 2.4 PETABYTES?!
magic mesa
Chunk format on wiki.vg states the bit mask length can be up to the max size of a varint and the bitmasks are longs depicting a chunk section (16 * 16 * 16) so the world can be very large. So it can be up to 137438953408 chunk sections if I understand correctly
craggy canyon
magic river
10,000,000 * 10,000,000 * 96 * 2.5 / 9
thick wharf
No wonder nobody uses pregenerated worlds on actual servers.
void void
I've always used pregenerated maps
Just not the whole map ofc
Only the first 5-10k blocks
thick wharf
Somebody should get Hausemaster an SSD farm that's over 16 petabytes in total capacity.
Not including redundancies and stuff.
magic river
...I don't even know who that is
magic river
meh
thick wharf
He has his own private Paper fork because for a long time it just wasn't viable to update from 1.12
magic river
That's nice
worn ember
i wonder why
spiral robin
2b2- 
worn ember
imagine sitting in queue for 4 hours to then get insta killed by hacking skiddies
magic river
Imagine thinking PVP in Minecraft was worth bothering with
worn ember
the only appealing thing to it is actually making the exploits themself cuz that at least sounds somewhat interesting
magic river
It was only ever worth doing before beta 1.8 when losing was cheap but even then people went out of their way to just grief you
Like, back in the day if you could have a server where PVP was allowed but not guaranteed to happen on every meeting it was kind of exciting and even if you lost a fight whatever, 20 minutes or less and you'd be back at full strength
But the game mechanics and networking are just not designed for PVP (and in general melee PVP over the internet is a shit show)
worn ember
pvp fights should be done irl
bring back the gladiators
at least then you got something to lose, like a limb or two
thick wharf
I think PvP should be handled in a ritualistic fashion, like with the Clans in the BattleTech universe.
worn ember
sure, good luck enforcing that tho
thick wharf
Trial of Grievance and Trial of Possession would probably be the two most common on a Minecraft server.
The former is exactly what it sounds like. Somebody pissed you off, and so you challenge them to "honorable combat" with a very large audience. That's their version of a civil liability lawsuit.
formal turret
wdym enforce just make a plugin do it for you
thick wharf
Trial of Possession... You basically declare that you want something that the other person has. If you win, they have to give it to you. If they win, then they get something of yours.
Trial of Position is an affair entirely internal to your own organization, and is basically how you would gain ranks. Technically speaking, no outside parties need to know what goes on behind closed doors, and so you could just claim you defeated your superiors through "Honorable Combat!" in order to get to where you are, when it was probably just "Hey, can I get a promotion?" "Yeah, sure. Here you go."
worn ember
wdym enforce just make a plugin do it for you
plugins bad
formal turret
ok mb
thick wharf
Trial of Absorption... Is fought exclusively by entire groups. The winner basically swallows up the loser, and they become a bigger group.
And Trial of Annihilation... Is when you've done something so offensive to the other Clans that they just want you gone.
And not just you, but your family too, and all of your civilians. Everything. If it's got your name anywhere near it, then it has to be destroyed.
By that point, it becomes more like traditional war, and you're fighting for survival.
thick wharf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_performance
One of these days, I will find the perfect JVM for running a large server with many players
twin lagoon
yes it's called hotspot
marble lark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_performance
One of these days, I will find th...
I doubt you'll find one faster and better than the default JVM (Except maybe Graal) to be honest
HotSpot has probably hundreds of engineers working on it round the clock
that actually makes me curious about one thing lmao
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by TheShermanTanker - About 285,000 results (0.43 seconds)
marble lark
well that was anticlimactic
thick wharf
Maybe we should do an experiment
Run a large server, gather data, switch JVM, repeat
Keep everything else the same
untold copper
day #95 of trying to get abs: no exercise cos i didn't want to
marble lark
Run a large server, gather data, switch JVM, repeat
The only ones I know of that are what many consider fast are HotSpot, Graal and OpenJ9
left swift
Ur calling urself snoopa sama?
marble lark
I'm not sure about the internals of the other 2 though
left swift
Someone thinks highly of himself huh
marble lark
I only really know about HotSpot
meager tusk
yes it's called hotspot
Objectively wrong. KGBJVM.
twin lagoon
Objectively wrong. KGBJVM.
Bro.
meager tusk
Private JVM implementation.
twin lagoon
Top secret.
left swift
Idriz
meager tusk
Doesn't work on any machine running out of Balkan.
left swift
Blink twice if you've been brainwashed
void void
Doesn't work on any machine running out of Balkan.
reminds me of trumpscript
marble lark
written in machine language
marble lark
reminds me of trumpscript
lmao\
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by TheShermanTanker - About 12,800 results (0.42 seconds)
marble lark
oh my god
meager tusk
Blink twice if you've been brainwashed
Only by my love for the continent of Albania, bro.
void void
twin lagoon
@ashen cliff BRO!
left swift
Only by my love for the continent of Albania, bro.
Complete the sentence: the Balkans belong to ____
void void
marble lark
7.4k stars my lungs LOL
meager tusk
Complete the sentence: the Balkans belong to ____
Albania.
left swift
meager tusk
Can't imagine being a dutch person.
marble lark
The readme has me fucking dying
Features
Our language includes several convenient features, perfect for any aspiring Presidential candidate including:
No floating point numbers, only integers. America never does anything halfway.
All numbers must be strictly greater than 1 million. The small stuff is inconsequential to us.
There are no import statements allowed. All code has to be home-grown and American made.
Instead of True and False, we have the keywords fact and lie.
Only the most popular English words, Trump's favorite words, and current politician names can be used as variable names.
Error messages are mostly quotes directly taken from Trump himself.
All programs must end with America is great.
Our language will automatically correct Forbes' $4.5B to $10B.
In its raw form, TrumpScript is not compatible with Windows, because Trump isn't the type of guy to believe in PC.
TrumpScript boycotts OS X and all Apple products until such time as Apple gives cellphone info to authorities regarding radical Islamic terrorist couple from Cal.
The language is completely case insensitive.
If the running computer is from China, TrumpScript will not compile. We don't want them stealing our American technological secrets.
By constructing a wall (providing the --Wall flag), TrumpScript will refuse to run on machines with Mexican locales
Warns you if you have any Communists masquerading as legitimate "SSL Certificates" from China on your system.
Won't run in root mode because America doesn't need your help being great. Trump is all we need.
Easy to type with small hands
What the fuck bro.
left swift
thick wharf
...
twin lagoon
Fact!
void void
Can't imagine being a dutch person.
how dare you
ashen cliff
<@!219443401974611970> BRO!
BRO!
left swift
The dutch are just convoluted swedish
twin lagoon
krusic tell us more about KGBJVM.
meager tusk
The readme has me fucking dying
```
Features
Our language includes several conv...
Least ridiculous american invention
twin lagoon
is what I said too bro.
ashen cliff
You talk, you die.
twin lagoon
meager tusk
Yes.
left swift
Nondisclosure death act
twin lagoon
You talk about it and you're reported missing the next day bro.
marble lark
But most importantly, Trump doesn't like to talk about his failures. So a lot of the time your code will fail, and it will do so silently. Just think of debugging as a fun little game.
No bro.
marble lark
my sides
meager tusk
Balkan NDA = No Dutchies Allowed.
twin lagoon
ah that's what NDA stands for
meager tusk
Yes bro.
left swift
@worn ember
cosmic raft
hello
void void
hello
left swift
Hi kashmoney
worn ember
<@208641151509463051>
im not dutch lol
left swift
Close enough
worn ember
who wants to be belgian
i wish to be aliven't 🙂
void void
who wants to be belgian
b*lgian*
meager tusk
I wish to live in an apartment in Berlin and make fun of family back home for being poor.
left swift
I put the same flag twice in reactions bro!
Me too bro!
meager tusk
Bro, why did you add toothpaste to my message reactions?!
left swift
Colgate cleans ur teeth and freshens ur breath bro
meager tusk
Colgate cleans ur teeth and freshens ur breath bro
Least colgate shill in paper discord
left swift
What are you a crester?
meager tusk
No.
wispy blade
bruh. Sensodyne >
left swift
cosmic raft
hai
warm anchor
@spiral robin @cosmic raft I hope your weekend is epic so far 
magic river
So long as you don't care about IE or old Edge
Technically IE invented CSS grid iirc but it's not compatible with the final version
magic river
Just don't try to use subgrids or masonry and you're probably fine
subgrid is Firefox only so far and masonry is either unsupported or behind a feature flag everywhere
high grove
why is there a death event for falling to death underwater but no message
magic river
Death events happen when you die, doesn't matter how
The messages are a vanilla thing
high grove
i know
remote pelican
oh today is sep 11
magic river
I'm pretty sure falling to death in water is a bug caused by their home grown collision detection system but since it pretty much only happens in shallow water due to the nature of the bug everyone just assumes it's supposed to be that way
potent panther
so if no report fall damage = hacks?
high grove
i just think it's interesting how there's an event for that
magic river
afaik fall damage is indirectly based on the onGround flag, sometimes your client ignores the water you zoomed through in a single tick and marks you as onGround then the server ignores the water too and doesn't reset the number of blocks you fell so when that flag is toggled you take damage
The problem is they do a poor job of handling a collision that happened within a single tick of movement
In this case the collision with the water
Heh, MDN's documentation for masonry layout apparently switched to using real examples instead of images so it doesn't work anymore unless you're running Firefox and set the flag to enable it
So it just looks like normal grid layout instead of looking like Pinterest
frank otter
Heh, MDN's documentation for masonry layout apparently switched to using real ex...
this flag?
thick wharf
The problem is they do a poor job of handling a collision that happened within a...
A simple (if naive) solution would be to compare your coordinates on the previous tick with your coordinates on the current tick, and then run a simple raycast between those two coordinates to see if you intersected water.
I'm sure that there would be a ton of ways to optimize this, though. For example, only caring about your Y velocity and not your other velocities, or only casting a ray through the specific chunk(s) that you've just traversed, or something like that.
Alternatively? You could also take a player's Y velocity and try to extrapolate where they will be in the next tick, or you could make the terminal velocity scale with the server's declining TPS during lag spikes.
Or even just... Not have it apply damage instantly, but instead first check whether or not they are now currently in water... and then apply damage if they are not.
The raycast approach would probably be the most accurate, but probably not the fastest.
thick wharf
you can also have your client report fall damage to the server
You could add this on top of everything else. Combined with all of the other checks, it could be pretty difficult to hack.
magic river
thick wharf
And by the way, I know that my proposed raycast solution only takes straight lines into account, but for movement that occurs during a single tick I don't really think that matters. Worst case scenario, you could just cast multiple rays.
magic river
The other option is to expand the entity's AABB by its velocity before moving so you can find all of the things it might collide with ahead of time
That's called speculative contacts
thick wharf
Speaking of AABBs and whatnot...
If only BSP was a viable optimization strategy for a game with player-deformable terrain in the form of blocks.
magic river
Speculative contacts methods actually use raycasting iirc
You find possible colliders then fire a ray between them to determine the time of impact
Although that only works for simple (non-rotated) shapes or circles/spheres
thick wharf
Then of course, there are potential ways to optimize raycasting itself, like using raymarching.
thick wharf
Although that only works for simple (non-rotated) shapes or circles/spheres
Well... Blocks.
magic river
Stairs, entities, chests, enchantment tables, etc
Lots of non-cube or rotated things in Minecraft
thick wharf
If somebody does use speculative contacts to implement a fix for the shallow water bug, the option in the config file should be "death.fell.accident.water"
thick wharf
Stairs, entities, chests, enchantment tables, etc
I mean, you could subdivide it or generate a simplified convex hull.
And things that actually rotate, you could use circles or spheres.
There's another way to look at it; instead of replacing the collision handling routine outright, you're just adding an additional routine that uses the raycast for the most simple check possible; "Did they intersect Water, or did they not intersect Water?", and the only two things the ray would ever need to return about a block are "Water" and "Not Water"
If the raycast detects that the player intersects Water during that tick, then it cancels or ignores the onGround flag.
brisk iron
Ñ
thick wharf
If it does not detect that they intersected Water, then the game's normal collision routine would apply.
Does that make sense?
thick wharf
...are you still there?
left swift
No
left swift
@ mods
untold copper
What the fuck happened with Snoopa while I was gone? <@!219443401974611970>
ur also fat <3
ashen cliff
Nothing.
ashen cliff
He got the snip snip, gave up on Jean, started getting buff, gave up on that, and then got back together with Jean again.
worn ember
snoopa body building videos wen
untold copper
He got the snip snip, gave up on Jean, started getting buff, gave up on that, an...
who says i gave up on getting buff
ashen cliff
Bro.
worn ember
where are the daily posts
untold copper
Bring back Snoopa Facts.
time to start day #1 of snooopa facts
ashen cliff
Your progress is slowing down bro!
worn ember
my gpu is pulling more load than you are bro
meager tusk
He got the snip snip, gave up on Jean, started getting buff, gave up on that, an...
I know only one part of the lore.
Him getting buff.
What the fuck is everything else you said.
ashen cliff
Just check his KGBLogs.
untold copper
my gpu is pulling more load than you are bro
even my gpu would be hard pressed to pull joe mama
meager tusk
Just check his KGBLogs.
Bro. KGBLogs just say "Loser".
ashen cliff
untold copper
Bro. KGBLogs just say "Loser".
Die.
untold copper
Already have. Brought back by the will of god. Who is Albanian.
Die harder.
meager tusk
You're off your Snoopa Facts, Snoopa.
untold copper
Day #1 of snoopa facts: McDonald's could buy a warship if they wanted to. I will return with more random facts tomorrow.
amazing.
ashen cliff
Don't be shy.
meager tusk
Most intelligent w*sterner.
ashen cliff
Understandable.
worn ember
idk i'm not on paper 24/7 anymore, i moved on to roblox discord
untold copper
epic.
ashen cliff
Didn't even read it and knew you gave up.
meager tusk
_Didn't even read it and knew you gave up._
Most motivated w*sterner.
worn ember
Yes, you're weak
meager tusk
Snoopa is now off his roasting game too.
worn ember
ur moms weak after i took her for a spin||ing class||
meager tusk
I think the lack of exercise is getting to him.
worn ember
at least it wont have issues rendering your abs
meager tusk
Why would it have difficulty rendering nothing lol
worn ember
you got the joke
meager tusk
.kill DarkEyeDragon
limber knotBOT
reaches out and punches right through DarkEyeDragon's chest.
meager tusk
don't spam?
worn ember
i heard they have pills for that
nova plume
snoopa you havent even showed your abs so why do you even talk abt them lmfao
nova plume
lmfao
meager tusk
how are you the CEO of getting abs if you don't have any
you're like the janitor of getting abs
worn ember
cleaning up other peoples abs
untold copper
im the ceo because im the only one trying
nova plume
no
untold copper
last time i checked you can be the ceo of your own company
worn ember
i dont have to try 
untold copper
who said im failing
nova plume
meager tusk
once i get abs
your own message
untold copper
I can't set it to CEO of trying to get abs because the nickname becomes too long
f
nova plume
im the ceo because im the only one trying
lmao im not even trying and im starting to get abs for some stupid reason
idk why
untold copper
lmao im not even trying and im starting to get abs for some stupid reason
sad
frank otter
I can't set it to CEO of *trying* to get abs because the nickname becomes too lo...
does CEO of attempting abs fit
nova plume
shush
vestal jasper
vestal jasper
Hi
untold copper
wydwydwydwyd
vestal jasper
Waiting for my lunch to be over so I can work
untold copper
what you having for lunch
vestal jasper
Nothing. I'm only taking it because I'm lawfully required to.
untold copper
Understandable.
vestal jasper
I'd rather be home an hour earlier tbh
untold copper
Yes.
warm anchor
Oh god what happened to your name
nova plume
ew
nova plume
smh snoopa
warm anchor
most overrated character in the series, im disappointed
You just jealous he has rocket launcher for boob 
wispy blade
why would i want rocket launchers instead of boobs
warm anchor
Yes
untold copper
Yes
wispy blade
it'd be a fire hazard
untold copper
my hotness is a fire hazard
foggy veldt
my hotness is a fire hazard
warm anchor
That looks fine
royal kernel
I don't see a problem here
plucky sparrow
The key to hiding your cables from your desk is double sided tape
Just make sure that no one ever looks under your desk
mental swallow
hello!
plucky sparrow
https://www.idris-lang.org
It doesn’t look like a fun language to learn tbh
wispy blade
@plucky sparrow make own programming language when
magic river
I wonder what SBS was referring to back in 2001
wispy blade
super bad shit
plucky sparrow
<@!262644781241466880> make own programming language when
whenever you stop using a switch as a command manager
plucky sparrow
It’s ugly
wispy blade
so are you?
wispy blade
java 14 switch though
plucky sparrow
Imagine switches
worn ember
imagine dragons
tawny stream
hi guys, do you know some kind of cli tool to manage papermc and plugins versions?
wispy blade
cd, rm, and curl
warm anchor
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
tropic flame
whenever you stop using a switch as a command manager
whenever Bukkit's ways of argument handling stop being trash
spiral robin
@frigid shuttle 
remote schooner
/give @s minecraft:bow{display:{Name:"{\"text\":\"Eternal Anarchy is the best server\",\"color\":\"#FF0033\"}"}}
hey does anyone know how to add bold to this text?
been messing with it for the past 30m and can't figure it out 😅
novel horizon
``/give @s minecraft:bow{display:{Name:"{\"text\":\"Eternal Anarchy is the best ...
/give @s minecraft:bow{display:{Name:"{\"text\":\"Eternal Anarchy is the best server\",\"color\":\"#FF0033\",\"bold\":\"true\"}"}}
spiral robin
sulu so smart 
novel horizon
https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Raw_JSON_text_format for info next time ^^
magic river
Woo my Monday package says Saturday now
golden gust
Nothing like the joys of your package delivering earlier than expected ||Well, outside of the bedroom||
worn ember
no recognition for you sadge
foggy veldt
You can’t copy paste it bad answer
bright wigeon
I’ve seen some servers with a message below the version and the ping. How could I set that on my server?
worn ember
I’ve seen some servers with a message below the version and the ping. How could ...
can you show an example of what you mean?
modern steppe
I’ve seen some servers with a message below the version and the ping. How could ...
do you mean messages in multiplayer server list?
heady spear
weebs should be sent to prison.
waxen panther
ok
austere ivy
ok
unkempt drift
anyone know how I might make use of jackson's @JsonValue annotation (or rather the feature behind it) with an enum I can't modify (part of a dependency)
potent fossil
wrapper class that takes in the enum, then mark the field as @JsonValue?
unkempt drift
that won't work for serialization and deserialization will it? I thought JsonValue only did both if it was on an enum
potent fossil
Oh I'm not sure, I haven't done that before. Just a guess on my part
If all else fails you can write custom serde
potent fossil
Yea for sure
native idol
.nether
toxic bone
weebs should be sent to prison.
what about furries?
worn ember
God windows accounts suck... Like if i add my school email to my mail app i have to meet password requirements to log in on my own device. Like what?
And change my pin every so often. And I can't override those cuz they're company policies
What the actual fuck lol. Guess I'm viewing my mail in browser then
magic river
oh wait, jackson has some "mix-in" thing
Yep, that's how you do it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28172695/how-to-control-jackson-serialization-of-a-library-class/28173019#28173019
potent fossil
Ah that's nice.
solid sapphire
if the windows pc username has a space, then what should i add as the username? in the rdp client
potent fossil
Not a clue. Maybe FirstWord\ LastWord but if that doesn't work no clue. I know Microsoft themselves recommend not having a space in usernames for this very reason tho. Might be better to just rename the username, gotta go edit registry and stuff tho
warm anchor
if the windows pc username has a space, then what should i add as the username?...
Double quote doensf work?
solid sapphire
Not a clue. Maybe `FirstWord\ LastWord` but if that doesn't work no clue. I know...
cant do that.
sharp sentinel
If the account was setup using a Microsoft account, it might be your email
(Or the first 5 letters of the email)
solid sapphire
Local account.
potent fossil
try quoting it i guess
solid sapphire
ive seen stuff if its a ms account to use the first name no luck
unkempt drift
Yep, that's how you do it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28172695/how-to-c...
yeah, SUPER handy. makes me like jackson even more now over gson
magic river
Huh, I thought jackson was the slow one but it looks like gson is
Or, well, when the JIT is cold gson is faster but once hotspot really gets in to it jackson pulls well away
vernal moth
Oh yes, it always was that way
Only reason why I (and I guess many others) use gson is because it feels more lightweight to use
But for performance critical stuff like my Webservices, spring ships Jackson
vernal moth
Sadly I still have performance issues with json loading, 50ms+ in prod for loading a json file that represents my page from disk :/
magic river
fastjson is faster than jackson but it doesn't seem to be enough of an improvement to matter
jackson, gson, and fastjson are all about the same for deserializing JSON
waxen panther
unkempt drift
I guess that's just because yaml sucks
lol, that's what I'm using it for actually 🙂
(at least right now) Hangar (wen?) uses jackson
magic river
The rest don't even support yaml, do they?
unkempt drift
nah, I don't think so
magic river
It's also 14x slower
vernal moth
It's mostly used for configs, which are loaded once
unkempt drift
yeah, I'm not doing anything crazy with it
vernal moth
They could take half a second to load and nobody would really care
Imagine DevOps without yml
unkempt drift
YAML web requests 🙂
vernal moth
For hangar we really need to get our shit together and like make like a priorized list of what we still need to do
unkempt drift
yeah ik. we've been sitting around doing nothin for a while now
vernal moth
On my list I have finishing up login and rebuilding of the design (I just learned about display grid so that's exciting), but other than that I have zero idea what's missing
warm anchor
This hangar will be the most over engineered shit ever if comes out
vernal moth
But like, it can't be enough that much missing, it feels complete enough for a public test phase already
warm anchor
unkempt drift
well the moderation should be sorted out
vernal moth
This hangar will be the most over engineered shit ever if comes out
Not really, we don't put in much (or any) work right now
warm anchor
I mean web design is really different from what y’all doing lol
vernal moth
I haven't even touched my PC this week
warm anchor
Gotta enjoy the last bit of summer 
vernal moth
well the moderation should be sorted out
What exactly is missing there?
unkempt drift
well its not gonna really work if there are 200 uploads every day
unkempt drift
I mean itll work, but nothing will get reviewed
you talked about some automation, but I don't really know anything about that
vernal moth
We could maybe say only approve versions for the initial one
warm anchor
Just realize that it maybe a lot of extra work now I think about it
If it’s anything like spigot lol
vernal moth
That's not essential for release, the transfers
unkempt drift
I'd suggest you go through and weed out what doesnt need to be done for release https://github.com/HangarMC/Hangar/projects/1
vernal moth
Caching we could also add over time when we notice something being slow, but yeah, would be better to give it an initial pass
vernal moth
For automation of malicious detection I was just gonna steal the tool somebody wrote for spigot and hopefully improve it
thick wharf
You mean the tool @sand shuttle made?
unkempt drift
a lot of the issues I've opened are just "make sure this is right everywhere"
like permissions, null userIDs on models that aren't deleted when the user is
vernal moth
How can you ping them?! I tried but discord didn't find them here
unkempt drift
Make use of @Transactional a whole lot more <-- not really an issue per-se
vernal moth
It's stuff we can look over and give the codebase like a general quality pass I guess
thick wharf
Gotta make a github issue about needing to remove Herobrine
vernal moth
Ideally we also write more tests but that's a lot of work
unkempt drift
but like I can't do that. idk how you would handle smth like that, but since I was so involved with writing the current backend system, I find it hard to see issues
thick wharf
Last I heard, he was going to talk with some infosec professionals into getting other Java malware samples to test
vernal moth
But at least that shows that my judgment of we being really close seems to be a sentiment that you share
It's the two major ones (design and auth), plus approval stuff hopefully being a bit more automated and less of a burden and then just cleanup stuff
unkempt drift
oh I think the Sorters still need some implementation. I really like the Pagination thing we came up with tho
unkempt drift
I seem to remember you hating graphql like a year ago
sand shuttle
How can you ping them?! I tried but discord didn't find them here
lol hi
sand shuttle
For automation of malicious detection I was just gonna steal the tool somebody w...
I'd love to work on it myself since it means I'd be able to re-write chunks of the main project too as i realize how dumb parts are however I can't get hangar to work on my end though 😐
vernal moth
It doesn't really matter, it will be fairly standalone anyways
Just need something that takes a file and returns a list of flags with a confidence
sand shuttle
I'll look into it again anyways though, If i can get it working i can do some sort of hangar specific impl 👍
need to deal with a skrub that uploaded a lot of resources with force-ops first, fun
vernal moth
I think I would do checks to like detect all kind of potentially malicious code (setOp, System.exec, process builder, network calls, etc) and then just have am heuristic that says if you got x amount of stuff it will be flagged for human review or something
sand shuttle
That's why I'd have to do a hangar specific impl lol, the code's there I just don't have it done in a way for that specifically
Any specific way you'd want it to return the results?
vernal moth
We would want a list of flags that got triggered and like a confidence and/or severity
sand shuttle
That i know, but is there a specific way you'd want the results returned e.g. dump to file, upload to a specific url, etc, etc
vernal moth
It would be a method that gets the bytes of the file and returns some object
sand shuttle
ah, so like
public Result scan(File file){
// code that does scanning and returns a Result, containing everything found
}
?
or something along those lines anyways
off-topic though...
I do love me some already detected malware though 👀
warm anchor
ForceOP