#general
wind geyser
plucky sparrow
Good morning my fellow Paper general users, hope you all are having an awesome delicious morning this day!!! Remember to breathe so you don’t die (city can skip this step if they want) ❤️❤️❤️❣️🌇
twin lagoon
i like the last bit
true canyon
Yeah the hearts are great
plucky sparrow
The sunset is the best part
heady spear
i like the last bit
Michael, this is concerning.
This goes into the screenshot folder :/
heady spear
We all know that you're madly in love with me and that's okay, but let's keep it professional.
twin lagoon
heady spear
I actually used to write plays for a thing called Stjärnparaden but we kinda got cancelled when we made a parody about Twilight where Rudolf was Jacob and shit because Bella was a honeytrap girl to exploit Santa because he was a ruthless capitalist and they wanted to turn the North Pole into a communist regime
twin lagoon
right
heady spear
but the actors said that we sexually exploited the characters
this actually happened though which is funny because I couldn't even make this shit up
anyway
floral mesa
to be honest, capitalism in that context doesnt make sense
heady spear
the elves wanted to own the means of production and Santa was barely paying them enough to survive
it's a sad story
floral mesa
well sure, but we are talking about a holiday character that gives things out for free, and uses some form of magic. I am nitpicking, but I doubt he would be able to pay if he doesnt have the cash to begin off with...
though again, magic
heady spear
Well, that is assuming that Santa doesn't profit from the presents, which wasn't the case in this story.
I actually don't remember how he made money, but the "magic" was very cheap labour - the elves.
either way the play was a mess. We did far better with our adaptation of The Great Gatsby which was set in Sweden and the story was told by Nick, at The Ellen Show.
floral mesa
why sweden? what were the changes?
heady spear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RVn5-9AOO0 oh my, it's still up
it was set in Sweden because we... were in Sweden. It's a parody lol, and every sentence has to rhyme
great shit 10/10
might be worth mentioning that we were all in high school 😛
floral mesa
nice, and yeah. its been a long time since I was in high school, I remember reading that book, along with a lot of other crap.
English/Language was never my favorite subject
heady spear
I've read the book a couple of times and seen the movie a couple of times. It grows on you :p
I took the IB in high school, so I took English (language and literature) as a native language. We had to read and analyze a tonne of weird stuff
waxen panther
go to bed
heady spear
no thanks
thick wharf
Well, that is assuming that Santa _doesn't_ profit from the presents, which wasn...
Fun fact: Santa can't actually deliver presents across the entire world in one hour... Unless you remember that it's not midnight on the entire planet at once.
Once you take timezones into account, Santa's real strength comes not from his speed, but his endurance.
warm anchor
Thank you for your information
upbeat scaffold
it looks to me like prism hasn't seen an update in over a year. Has anyone tried it on 1.17.1 who can confirm that it still works?
willow robin
Is it true paper is considering dropping support of spigot related stuff?
Or hearsay?
unkempt drift
depends on what you mean
nothing concrete yet, but at some point in the future, paper would like to not have spigot as its upstream
so we can update ourselves, maybe have builds for mc snapshots, and make more significant breaking changes the API has needed for a long time
but there are still several things not done that have to be done for that. the big one being Hangar
willow robin
Okok gotcha. Yeah I guess that's what they were talking about. Was just curious was all 💜 thanks!
nimble depot
I am keeping this one
thick wharf
So the other day, somebody claimed that it's possible to change the server's networking protocol without actually breaking compatibility with anything, and at the same time without trying to maintain a separate vanilla-compatible stack. How exactly is that supposed to be done?
formal turret
uhh i wouldn't think you could change the protocol?
magic river
I mean, it's possible but unless you just keep the same networking semantics in a different transport it's unlikely
And what would the point be if there is no client to use it
viscid wedge
I had an answer to this but I'm too high to remember it now
magic river
And if you keep the same semantics why do it at all?
Like, if you swapped TCP for QUIC you could stick chat on a separate stream which would help a little but without reworking the networking logic to support unreliable packets and getting things out of order that would be about it
If you did all of that you could still have it be compatible with vanilla too but I bet it'd be buggy
Honestly at that point you may as well write a new server, you've done the hardest part of it 😛
thick wharf
I mean, it's _possible_ but unless you just keep the same networking semantics i...
Could you explain changing the transport?
magic river
Swapping out how you send bytes over the wire without changing what you send
potent fossil
Yes Professor Amaranth, I am here for the lecture on networking
Btw will this be in the exam
magic river
TCP to QUIC, NBT to FlatBuffers, etc
potent fossil
Wouldn't you have to change both the client and the server
potent fossil
Yea bigger job than it initially would sound like
magic river
That would still be the easy version
Changing what you send would require major reworking of the client and server
potent fossil
Ofc you can go and redo the entire stack but my ass is already ready to be entirely eaten about that
magic river
The protocol is mostly a simple RPC interface from when notch split the game into two halves
There wasn't much in the way of design done
Single player worked a certain way so the protocol works that way to limit how much he had to change to add multiplayer
Real game networking is more of a distributed database problem, it's a different way of thinking about things
thick wharf
And thus the only viable way to add a new network stack to the game that doesn't suck, without it being an official thing...
magic river
Would be to rewrite large chunks of the client and server
potent fossil
Change the server and make a custom client
But at that point you're just making a new game with the same models lmao
magic river
And probably lose compatibility with vanilla or at best have half-assed compatibility like that project that makes bedrock kind of work on java
potent fossil
Geyser works alright but it's not perfect
magic river
Bedrock and Java mostly work the same way too, or at least have a common ancestor
thick wharf
Change the server and make a custom client
Requiring a new client to in order to connect to a specific server really sucks.
potent fossil
That's how it be
magic river
I haven't poked in to the networking for Bedrock much to see if they do a more traditional FPS networking style
thick wharf
And having a client that can connect to the new servers but not the old ones would also suck
magic river
Technically Forge modpacks require a new client to connect to a specific server
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is there a problem with the networking protocol that needs a rewrite
potent fossil
I don't even know what started this convo ngl I just joined it
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last i recall there wasn't, outside of specific areas like movement and inventory...
magic river
It's pretty much impossible to do an authoritative server with client-side latency hiding with the existing protocol
You either eat the latency or let the client be in charge of things and have the server just try to detect blatant cheating
Since it's TCP you also have head of line blocking (more latency)
ancient bolt
Climate change is great
magic river
It's got what plants crave
ancient bolt
On vacation and the place I'm going well be hotter all week than the average temperature there of the hottest day of the year
potent fossil
"damn this summer is the hottest it's ever been"
"No this summer is the coldest it's ever been for the rest of your life"
ancient bolt
Every day will be 30F hotter this week
September in the midwest is normally starting to go feel like cool autumn by now
But nope, literally in the 90F+ range
Anyways I got a sunburn just from the drive here
magic river
I think we're at about normal temps right now in my part of the midwest but I was just thinking earlier today it should be about time to be able to open up the house and turn off the AC for our few weeks of decent weather
thick wharf
It's pretty much impossible to do an authoritative server with client-side laten...
So you can't really just build a new network stack on top of what already exists, and have it automatically fallback to the original network stack when it detects that the client isn't compatible.
magic river
Instead it's looking like that might not happen until like the 20th
magic river
So you can't really just build a new network stack *on top* of what already exis...
Maybe but a lot of player ticking logic is tied up in the packet handlers on the server so you're going to be duplicating and/or refactoring a lot of code
And I believe there are non-obvious places that assume certain things about the rate of packets coming from the client for an action so changing the protocol would mean you have to adjust those
This is a thing no one is ever going to do though so it's not worth putting much thought in to
potent fossil
Basically it would be more hell than it already is 
merry talon
ill talk about ur stack brocc
warm anchor
Let’s keep the stuff happening in the bedroom private thanks
magic river
Oh yeah did you see I found brocc's twitter account?
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post it
magic river
Twitter
merry talon
waxen panther
number one
i am not 31
number two, if i had 24000 tweets i would not like to live
warm anchor
waxen panther
last i checked a discord message was not a tweet
merry talon
it's worse
waxen panther
sez u
warm anchor
(As a furry pfp user)
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waxen panther
colon lookfish colon
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merry talon
warm anchor
Longer
high grove
has the piston breaking bedrock thing been patched?
austere ivy
fish mid
green edge
Do you believe there are people that would be willing to help me create an alternative to all paid anti exploit, security, anti crashers on the market?
I have the know-how and resources but no time
I'm stuck in projects or administrative work all time
waxen panther
not for free
warm anchor
Do you pay by exposure by chance? or 5gums?
green edge
Plan is to open source it
green edge
I don't need the software myself
waxen panther
anti exploit is not a fun thing to work on
merry talon
There's generally a reason anticheat and the like software is proprietary
green edge
Anticheats i agrew
For packet crashers though
It's not hard
You take all packets
Analyze proper vanilla limits for
And that's it
warm anchor
why dont you make it then? 
warm anchor
so let me get this clear. You want someone to spend their time for free to work on YOUR open source project where you got this very original idea?
green edge
No
My plan is to create a team that tries each week to create something for the community
Not for the money, but to generally make this space a more accessible space to everyone
I don't need it, for me 50 eur to pay up is 0
warm anchor
So you mean what paper team is already doing? 
green edge
Paper is doing server software
I want to work on plugins, since often that is just as important
Anti crash, statistics for owners, analytics, malware scanning, etc
All things I've had to deal with in production
warm anchor
So you want to make an open source project where other people can spend their time (because you dont have it) for free to make your idea come true?
green edge
But didn't have much options for
green edge
So you want to make an open source project where other people can spend their ti...
I'm willing to pay for expenses
And provide guidance on high complexity issues
warm anchor
wow that sounds like a great deal
warm anchor
try post it on linkin and I am sure people will be lining up for it!
waxen panther
no
foggy veldt
Anti crash, statistics for owners, analytics, malware scanning, etc
public void onServerCrash(final ServerCrashingEvent event) {
event.setCancelled(true);
}
cunning raft
But those plugins shouldn't be needed in the first place
warm anchor
```java
public void onServerCrash(final ServerCrashingEvent event) {
event.s...
hired!
green edge
But those plugins shouldn't be needed in the first place
Yet with people looking in the protocol all day
cunning raft
Those kinds of exploits should be reported to paper and be fixed there
green edge
Ancient versions still have some usecases
waxen panther
lol
green edge
Yet paper doesn't support it for obvious reasons
foggy veldt
no nullability annotations ?
It adds more characters, more characters make code run slower
warm anchor
the solution is to use latest
cunning raft
well there you go
green edge
the solution is to use latest
Not always
waxen panther
so you want people to work on a anti-crasher for legacy versions for free?
no one sane is going to want to do that
maybe on the spigot recruiting forums
green edge
Because when you have to choose between having an instance capable of handling 300 400 players
Vs newer versions that are limited to about 200
There are times you don't need turtles and new blocks
And you'd rather have the less intensive version
warm anchor
"My house is old and wiring is bad and sometimes it caught on fire"
The perfect solution is to
"build a fire station right next to my house so when the next fire breaks out, they can report really fast"
foggy veldt
I think your heart is in the right place, a bit optimistic tho
green edge
Nope, aware of the implications
But just as paper and essentials are open source
I believe there is space for these kind of projects
Now i realize in the way i presented myself
I sound as a kid
warm anchor
Yes it's called hiring a team of developer if you do choice to maintain an older version of Minecraft
green edge
With no idea what he's talking about
waxen panther
your only chance is starting the project and hoping you get contributors
green edge
Yes it's called hiring a team of developer if you do choice to maintain an older...
Me and my clients do that already
waxen panther
trying to get people to do it under "guidance" is unlikely
green edge
A 14 y/o kid doesn't do thst
warm anchor
The idea wont start the project for you. Start your project and gain some good popularity and hopefully someone will hop on board.
lament patio
Could PR to something like Panilla, I guess
warm anchor
true
green edge
There are many people just stating to learn about development, and in the end if revenue is an concern
Open source, premium with dev builds is an option
Like Citizens
Helps the community, is paid
And open source
foggy veldt
I think you are overestimating the amount of people still on legacy versions
green edge
I work with minigame servers
In terms of server instances, not many
In terms of player percentage, there are loads
Why host a lobby on 1.16
And make it pointlessly heavy
When you can make it on 1.8
warm anchor
Do your entire network also happen to turn off bstat too? coz I dont see how it is popular
waxen panther
could you stop sending a new message every 5 words
foggy veldt
Are the players paying for your services tho or is the server
warm anchor
oh wow that's very secure
green edge
Sorry, on my phone, different writing style on it since the display is not wide
They don't do it for security
They just don't want bstats
Lol
warm anchor
cant let people find out how popular 1.8 truly is!
I heard most 1.8 server turn it off too
must be a real thing
austere ivy
could you stop sending a new message every 5 words
what? you're saying
that you don't
prefer reading vertically?
what a nerd
foggy veldt
The actual servers that use legacy versions is what matters not the player percentage. By your logic I can throw 1000 users on a canary mod server and say canary mod is still relevant
austere ivy
stef, my two cents is that if you're really interested in doing this, I'd say getting the ball rolling with at least starting the project will make people a lot more inclined to actually help
green edge
Was doing it for a while
Each week i made a blog discussing issues and coming with solutions
Got contacted by a few network owners for more guidance so I know it's helped some people
But I just got stuck in projects so i stopped
Also, if i hire people to work, and I'm willing to spend 1000 eur or more on somebody monthly
I want ROI
Free plugins don't get you that, and helping others doesn't pay the bills.
Now, to make it clear, I don't need it. I already work at a level where it's not necessary for me as clients either have experience not to do dumb shit or funds to throw around
Most owners on the other hanf don't, and you can do a calculation if you check servers open vs players online to see that for yourself
108k players, 176k servers
In the US you can easily see 30$/player, so for a player base with average 50 on, you make 1.5k
foggy veldt
I wish you the best of luck with your project
thick wharf
which furrsuit will he don today
None, actually. Fursuits are fucking expensive.
thick wharf
Anti crash, statistics for owners, analytics, malware scanning, etc
Oh, I was just talking to somebody earlier about that.
Do you mind if I DM you, @green edge?
solid sapphire
now we wait for 9 am to call nvidia
sand shuttle
I wish you the best of luck with your project
Actually, in terms of their anti-malware part of the project I'm aware of two other resources including my own.
afaik however mine's the best one to use in terms of actual detections & handling
solid sapphire
yoo wat
i found a place with the srill green AMD logo
just look at github.com/amd
foggy veldt
Actually, in terms of their anti-malware part of the project I'm aware of two ot...
I wasn’t commentating on their projects goals, mainly on them wanting to provide those services free of charge and open source for legacy servers
thick wharf
Sorry, on my phone, different writing style on it since the display is not wide
Try lowering the text size.
sand shuttle
I wasn’t commentating on their projects goals, mainly on them wanting to provide...
In terms of my anti-malware at least, for the most part it should support legacy servers seeing as it handles just about any jar, rar, or zip you throw at it and is also open-source & free of charge.
As of the other two projects, i cannot comment on those due to me not actually using them
thick wharf
I think it might help to only open-source older builds, and keep certain key dependencies "free, but closed-source"
Otherwise, malware authors could crack your anti-malware wide open
sand shuttle
Otherwise, malware authors could crack your anti-malware wide open
That's why my code has never gone through a proper refactor, it's a mess lol.
Trying to project java code is pointless lol
thick wharf
If only there was a tool that would use machine learning to turn beautifully made code (so that it's easier for you to work on) into heavily obfuscated spaghetti code.
sand shuttle
so obfuscators then
thick wharf
Yeah. An AI-powered source code spaghettifier/obfuscator.
"Now with additional GOTOs!"
sand shuttle
Eh, no-real purpose in it tbh.
It'll get dealt with anyways lol
It's java
it's made to be decompilable and deobfuscatable
sand shuttle
roughly 489 malicious jars, a lot with heavily obfuscation.
I could deal with it or get someone to make a deobfuscator and it's dealt with lol
sand shuttle
So your entire code security is based in never refactoring it
The issue with security is well.. it's damn hard to implement good java security.
You can decompile and deobfuscate a jar without even running it
remote pelican
um guys is bedrock breaking exploit patch toggeable in paper 1.17.1?
thick wharf
I got nothing .-.
sand shuttle
Any security i implement is only useful while the program is running, otherwise it's worse than useless
making it a pain to reverse engineer is better lol
limber knotBOT
Having problems with TNT Duping, Bedrock Breaking or Sand Duping Vanilla Exploits? See: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854 for information.
remote pelican
aight, thanks for the help.
solid sapphire
yeah about yesterday who wanted gpu's again
thick wharf
GPU acceleration is a pipe dream and nobody should even bother attempting to make it work with Java.
As for getting your hands on a graphics card? Good luck.
You're better off using software rendering in this day and age.
coarse lily
GPU acceleration is a pipe dream and nobody should even bother attempting to mak...
That's a big change of tune from 2-3 days ago:
But yeah servers don't really have GPUs generally.
So it's kinda pointless.
sand shuttle
Speaking of malware, actually just found one not that long ago from a mass-scan
solid sapphire
i need more motivation to call nvidia
primal harness
does anyone know where I can buy a domain without having to renew it, I looked at unstoppable domains but I don't know if it will work for a mc server
swift root
phew, Larry isn't going to make it to the US
not this time
magic river
GPU acceleration of tasks other than rendering is a bit of an open problem in game development, largely believed to be unsolvable due to latency issues
Even for the bits where GPU acceleration would make sense you almost certainly need the result back on the CPU and the cost of sending the data over, doing the work, and copying the results back is usually more than just doing it on the CPU
That's why it only ever gets used for particle effects and such, things that are only used by the renderer so can stay on the GPU
Like, most games these days might use PhysX but they use the CPU part of it because PhysX is actually a really good CPU based physics engine
Even if it started life as a PPU (and later GPU) thing
coarse lily
GPUs are for quitters.
magic river
You know, you'd think the 3060, 3070 Ti, and 3080 Ti would sell for less on ebay and such since miners can't use them
Or at least not easily
coarse lily
IIRC there's bypassed for that stuff
But the general shortage still means there's more supply than demand.
I think a lot of it is misattributed to miners.
magic river
The only bypass I know of was for the the 3060 and that was nvidia accidentally putting out a beta driver without the limiter
They did a new SKU of the 3060 with firmware that refuses to run on that version of the driver
sand shuttle
But the general shortage still means there's more supply than demand.
Yea, they're having issues keeping up with demand iirc
e.g. bottlenecks throughout the entire process due to having being at 100% already
magic river
It's not really bottlenecks, y'all are just buying too many GPUs 😛
sand shuttle
Exactly, so everything in the entire process is maxed 😂
so the "bottleneck" in this case is they just can't make them fast enough
magic river
They're not stuck waiting for a part somewhere though like cars are
They're stuck waiting for every part
sand shuttle
Yea, so it'll be a while until the issue is fixed
year+
Gotta wait for new factories and stuff to be made after all :p
magic river
They probably aren't going to bother
meager tusk
thankfully i built my pc like 2 years ago
and it's been working fine since
so i don't need to worry about that stuff anymore
👉😬👈
magic river
But yeah, like they don't have enough wafer capacity to make enough GPUs to meet demand but even if they did the board partners don't have enough VRMs and capacitors and PCB throughput and etc
Is it a 3070 box with a rock in it?
sand shuttle
They probably aren't going to bother
Nah, they most likely will.
Everything being at max capacity is why everything's so expensive too lol
magic river
Why do you have such a thing?
solid sapphire
gimme
untold copper
anyone has any idea on how to take item out of an ME system and put it into a chest like 100 blocks away? I'm trying using an import bus on the chest and fluix cables to link them, but its not working
magic river
Are you in the US?
coarse lily
Are you in the US?
Yep. You can friend/DM me if you want.
thick wharf
Nah, they most likely will.
Everything being at max capacity is why everything's...
Cryptominers sure don't help
sand shuttle
Cryptominers sure don't help
People mass buying in general doesn't help
it's not one specific issue causing this
it's many
warm anchor
actually no
that's still because of crypto
the demand is there because they know those crypto sucker will buy it
warm anchor
yes we read it
magic river
This is like the covid hospital thing. People are like "only 20% of the people in the hospital have covid, they aren't full because of covid" but if the hospital normally runs at 80-90% capacity then covid being this large extra thing is what pushed them over capacity
warm anchor
sand shuttle
In this case, the pandemic caused more people to buy new hardware than they expected
warm anchor
You know for those anti vacc'er if they'd continue with their dumb believe and just not go to hospital that would be great.
funny how they dont trust our "medicine" and when they are sick enough they expect to get help
There are also more people working from home and needing the hardwares so the overall demand is higher not just for the GPU chips
as LTT said himself, GPU sadly isnt "essnetials" there are other stuff that are more important than a graphic card
coarse lily
There are a lot of fab shortages, yeah. A bunch of auto manufacturers have jacked up prices on some stuff and/or dropped some options entirely, too.
It's definitely interesting to see the rolling ramifications.
magic river
iirc Dodge trucks just don't have blind spot sensors this year because they couldn't get the chips they need for them
They had these sensors that would detect if something moved in to your blind spot and put on a light on your rearview mirror
coarse lily
There are a few folks who are foregoing stuff like cooled seats, power seats, and some of that stuff, yeah.
A bunch of different modules. Seems to vary by manufacturer.
vernal moth
The shortages for those chips is caused by Bosch being idiots tho and not really related to the GPU stuff
warm anchor
cooled seat is nice especially on a hot summer afternoon
coarse lily
Cooled seats are pretty fancy. I had them on a rental car.
coarse lily
The shortages for those chips is caused by Bosch being idiots tho and not really...
Depends. A lot of blindspot detection stuff isn't Bosch.
IIRC there are three or four main manufacturers of blindspot stuff.
vernal moth
Preeettry sure Bosch is the biggest chip maker in that industry
coarse lily
Could be
I have a friend who worked at one of the OEMs for that stuff but it wasn't Bosch. Not sure what the market share division was.
Bosch is definitely big, though.
coarse lily
No thanks!
marble lark
:C
magic river
marble lark
no u
warm anchor
let's give it a F chat
warm anchor
Just a random question do you like Oreo cookie? @marble lark
warm anchor
On a scale of 1 to taylor swift what would you rate oreo cookie at?
solid sapphire
oreos are ok but oreo mcflurries are not.
marble lark
On a scale of 1 to taylor swift what would you rate oreo cookie at?
the vanilla ones are a meh
the strawberry ones are a 74 61 79 6C 6F 72 20 73 77 69 66 74
marble lark
oreos are ok but oreo mcflurries are not.
they're pretty nice doe :C
solid sapphire
theyre ok but due to mcdonalds i have to give it a 1
they gave me a oreo after i ordered a chololate. 0/10 wouldnt order from mcd again
marble lark
lmaoo
potent fossil
Why we typing in hex
solid sapphire
cause yes
marble lark
Why we typing in hex
my attempt at a dumass joke
74 61 79 6C 6F 72 20 73 77 69 66 74 is Taylor Swift in hex
marble lark
sorreh :/
potent fossil
I'm aware of that, I converted it to ASCII
Oh I see, you responded to a comment asking on a scale of Taylor swift
meager tusk
On a scale of 1 to taylor swift what would you rate oreo cookie at?
1 to 1? wtf
meager tusk
forgot a minus before the number but yea
solid sapphire
~~aaah ~~
meager tusk
Literally 1984
ashen cliff
Fact.
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@meager tusk You smell like your last bath was 1984.
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WTF!
meager tusk
Hacked.
warm anchor
It was the combine power of multiple Minecraft notable to being Idriz back!
marble lark
1 to 1? wtf
jokes on you taylor is 36018100350401950955575273076 in base 10
pallid raptor
Got my COVID test tomorrow then school after that brihhh :(
vernal moth
I get tested literally every week, do it before grocery shopping, just because I can
(am double vaccinated)
warm anchor
void void
where do i find some who can build me a basic minecraft server, with bedwars, pvp, survival, sumo duels, and sky wars?
warm anchor
You can try MOSS in community guide or spigot forum hire for help section. Not here
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Sounds like you want to connect to mc.hypixel.net
warm anchor
Or that
void void
i will pay for it 
warm anchor
Wow that’s nice but it’s still against server rules here 
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as in play on it
or go with Eternity's suggestions, I suppose. HelpChat also has a section for hiring, but I don't think they allow this
warm anchor
Oh yeah it’s helpchat not moss. I kept getting them confused
void void
Oh yeah it’s helpchat not moss. I kept getting them confused
hey, where is help chat?
is it channel?
warm anchor
meager tusk
https://tenor.com/view/teamhalo-deal-with-it-im-vaccinated-covid19vaccine-modern...
I prefer to take medicine made for horses.
Sorry.
warm anchor
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
marble lark
I get tested literally every week, do it before grocery shopping, just because I...
not much of a point in doing that if you're already double vacced though
meager tusk
Same. I got my first dose two days ago.
wispy blade
2nd dose hit me hard
twin lagoon
Idriz! BRO!
meager tusk
BRO!
golden gust
I'd hit you hard too
wispy blade
BRO!
marble lark
He's still a transmission risk if he does get it
depends on which vaccine I think the effectiveness varies between them
wispy blade
I'd hit you hard too
you hit women? shame.
golden gust
I only hit the women who ask for it
golden gust
Do the vaccines help reduce the payload? yes
is there still a transmission risk even with the vaccine? Also yes
plucky sparrow
2nd dose hit me hard
Same
The 1st one was great because I didn’t feel anything but damn.. the 2nd hits hard
golden gust
so hot you're hurting my feelings
plucky sparrow
Oh it was only one night for me
golden gust
So, what you're telling me, is when I get the 2nd dose, prep for man flu
void void
I didn’t feel anything apart from a bit of pain in my arm ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wispy blade
*so hot you're hurting my feelings*
thinking im hot lmao
twin lagoon
the second one is fucked
marble lark
*is there still a transmission risk even with the vaccine?* Also yes
fair enough though I'd argue they generally prime the immune system to act on the viral load fast enough before the host can become a transmission risk that you don't need to get checked all the time (Well not as much as if you didn't get eh shot anyway)
marble lark
Oh it was only one night for me
same
meager tusk
The first one my arm just hurt a little bit
dunno what will happen on the second dose tho
marble lark
I needed more than 2 doses and every time i had to wait like 3 hours before i could go home
marble lark
dunno what will happen on the second dose tho
Either nothing happens if you're lucky
plucky sparrow
I needed more than 2 doses and every time i had to wait like 3 hours before i co...
huh
three hours?
meager tusk
they had me wait 15 minutes
marble lark
exaggeration
meager tusk
before going home but
marble lark
you get the point though
marble lark
three hours?
it was around 1 hours each time for me
meager tusk
that's quite a bit
i got recommended to stay for 15 min to see if i had any side effects but
other than that
serene bolt
The 1st one was great because I didn’t feel anything but damn.. the 2nd hits har...
can't wait for the third one 
plucky sparrow
they recommend you to wait about 15 mins just in case but you don't really have to
marble lark
that's quite a bit
yeah i wanted to die every time
wispy blade
just bring phone lol
marble lark
they recommend you to wait about 15 mins just in case but you don't really have ...
where I am I have to wait the entire duration
golden gust
Yea, I got pfizer and had to wait 15 minutes, what's fun is I already got health issues so it's like "is this the vaccine... or just literally normal"
marble lark
but I'm also a special case since most people only need to wait 20-30min
marble lark
Yea, I got pfizer and had to wait 15 minutes, what's fun is I already got health...
ye i saw about them in another chat channel
you doin any better now though?
golden gust
it varies
marble lark
can't wait for the third one <:pepela:798950800894066708>
i had to get a third one it was boring for the first hour
and then my arm exploded
first 2 were ok though
marble lark
it varies
I'm guessing it probably worsens with stress and mental effort
hope you're taking care of yourself bud
worn ember
Poor bby cat. Need a smoochie on the owie?
wispy blade
Poor bby ded. Need a smoochie on the owie due to nuking belgium?
worn ember
Ok I'm fine with that
wispy blade
cant have french in glorious kingdom of NL
worn ember
Do France after
marble lark
Poor bby cat. Need a smoochie on the owie?
jeez
wispy blade
dont have to nuke france
marble lark
disgusting
Angry leaf noises
worn ember
Why do you still get ads in 2021
plucky sparrow
i should get pihole then
ashen cliff
Depends on the price.
plucky sparrow
They're both about €1.4k
the 6900xt has the advantage of it working in macOS but hmm
native wolf
Also has an advantage of working on Linux without proprietary drivers
I should try AMD again in the future, last time i used anything from them was 10 years ago
My GTS 450 didn't have any problem with Linux tho
Yes, i use a GTS 450 in 2021
Don't need more
minor badge
My RTX 3060 works great with proprietary drivers (which in itself is a minus, but...) on Linux, but won't work on macOS ^^
worn crest
My 1050ti works great with the r9 3900x 
wispy blade
never had any issues with proprietary nvidia drivers
if anything nouveau has given me the most headaches :p
waxen panther
ok
wispy blade
good afternoon brocc
plucky sparrow
would you recommend the 6900xt over a 3080ti?
golden gust
nouveau is much more.. fussy...
At least, it was
It was kinda fun though, in some areas the OSS drivers where much better, but the prop ones where much more stable and shit, but, also much less stable around stupid updates
solid sapphire
Hey i need help in this wired JS/HTML question.
So i need to send some user inputted data ad GET, but need to send just a hardcoded POST value with it, any ideas?
wispy blade
what
solid sapphire
uhhh
plucky sparrow
It’s such a hard decision
It’s either no macOS or macOS
But I barely use macOS though
So maybe I should just get the 3080ti
hmm
I really want something future-proof but the new gpus don't seem very future proof
they struggle with some games such as flight simulator
plucky sparrow
i'd be going from an rx 580 @ 1080p/60Hz to a 6900xt @ 1080p/60hz
i definitely need a new screen
1440p@144hz would be more than enough for me
yeah 1080p is definitely not an issue for such a beast gpu
but I want to see what 1440p @ 144hz looks like
I've never experienced such a high refresh rate irl
vernal moth
Why do you need a proxy in a first place when you using free hardware?
shy oriole
because i want first to configure all and then buy the host
sand shuttle
I mean, i guess that makes sense 😂
shy oriole
yeah right?
vernal moth
Configure it on your local computer?
shy oriole
but i want a friend to join
sand shuttle
How are ya btw Mini?
vernal moth
I just off of work cause I didn't wanna work for today anymore and will crash and die on my couch now
sand shuttle
:p
shy oriole
so there's any way?
sand shuttle
I'm not really sure of any free host that's just for bungee tbh
maybe you could get away with using server.pro, but you'd have to have the bungee jar fit their criteria for server starting
sand shuttle
You'd most likely have to rename the jar to fit whatever they need the jar name to be
shy oriole
but
minor badge
You can order a server by the hour (or even minute with some providers) and set it up?
shy oriole
they do it but a choose version
not a file
wdym
i don't want to spend money until the server is finished
sand shuttle
Only other option is you portforward & do it that way since you just want a friend to join
minor badge
Just set up a simple server on e.g. DigitalOcean 
3 days of their 48$/mo droplet is $5
plucky sparrow
but i want a friend to join
Open ports or use something like hamachi maybe?
shy oriole
eeh
vernal moth
Ngrok hype train
sand shuttle
:p
potent fossil
...just host it on your PC and use ngrok while making it then buy a server when it's "finished"
Oh mini beat me
sand shuttle
I just off of work cause I didn't wanna work for today anymore and will crash an...
As for how I'm doing, i wanna do write-ups on the 486 malware I've found so far.
Not 100% sure how i wanna do write-up formatting though 🤔
left swift
...just host it on your PC and use ngrok while making it then buy a server when ...
If only it could be so.... simple
left swift
vernal moth
As for how I'm doing, i wanna do write-ups on the 486 malware I've found so far....
Categorize
potent fossil
Ok am slep now
sand shuttle
Categorize
I'm doing that already, i meant the actual text file
quick obsidian
sup optic
sand shuttle
I don't wanna go with something, and then have to rewrite 486 text files myself a week later 🤣
at the bare minium the file name will be the resource id and the text file containing the resource name, release date, and sha-1 hash(es)
vernal moth
Wait you want to write something for every file?
I would do something like, this type of malware does this, a common implementation is qlutch, found in a, b, c
If you want to have data for every single find, use a database and generate those text files automatically
sand shuttle
Wait you want to write something for every file?
Yea, it would allow me to modify searchsploit and do a minecraft specific impl for example, or something along the lines of exploit-db's site.
Or just ya know, shove them in a github repo lol
sand shuttle
If you want to have data for every single find, use a database and generate thos...
Yea, I'll most likely do it manually for now & make tools to automate common parts as needed
Need to see how much i can actually automate besides basic file creation and basic text file format (e.g. header and sections) rn
It'll be worth it though 😂
vernal moth
Think of your text files like the view for your database
sand shuttle
Oh boi, that's also kinda a mess 👀
vernal moth
Can use dum stuff like SSG for example to handle the templating
sand shuttle
ssg?
vernal moth
Static site generation
sand shuttle
Ah
Hmmm, I'll worry about making easy to read txt files first, then worry about expanding it into a site
Amusingly the text files themselves don't have to be too complex unless i wanted to get into the code themselves.
A basic write-up would be along the lines of
upbeat falconBOT
44146.txt by @sand shuttle: https://paste.gg/0d27188d12344362920ea7eb6d3c4107
vernal moth
Well you still want to generate that so that you can easily convert that
sand shuttle
Of course
I can pull the SHA-1 hash, and stuff from the DB however I'd have to do title, file name, release date, etc manually
at least until i clean up the DB it's self so it's all accurate 👀
For the format it's self, think anything could be improved at all?
e.g. Making another section for something specifc
shy oriole
how can i do a friend to join by hamachi in a localhost?
vernal moth
And countless 360p YouTube vids by screaming kids
left swift
Hamachi 
vernal moth
Hey, it works
golden gust
You just leave waterfall to bind to 0.0.0.0
maybe set the port to 25565 and then set the servers onto a different port so that you don't need to specify it
golden gust
with what ipv4?
marble lark
And countless 360p YouTube vids by screaming kids
lmao
shy oriole
hamachi
golden gust
assuming you meant your IP in hamachi, eer...
make sure that you started waterfall after starting hamachi
golden gust
hamachi is also known to be stupid so you might need to replace the host with the ip that it gives you
Well
Who tested the hamachi ip? you or your friend?
shy oriole
both
shy oriole
hamachi is also known to be stupid so you might need to replace the host with th...
let me try this
golden gust
please don't mention in replies
shy oriole
oh sorry
left swift
Hey, it works
Hamachi's slogan
golden gust
I mean, that's the thing with hamachi is that a good chunk of the time it basically just fucking doesn't
golden gust
I prefer to point people towards zerotier as it seems more stable from my experience but isn't as friendly to people who don't really understand networking as much
shy oriole
do you know any solution?
surreal zinc
Help stuck!
golden gust
if by "my ipv4" you mean the hamachi assigned ipv4, I got no idea
shy oriole
yes
golden gust
I don't care to provide support around the POS that is hamachi
golden gust
I mean, as I said, there is zerotier, but, like, not really designed for people not familiar with networking
void void
or ngrok
urban depot
is a cheap vps better than using a host with shared cores
golden gust
generally no
urban depot
sigh
golden gust
VPSes are often spec'd towards web servers
shared hosts are generally better spec'd for MC, to a degree
left swift
Who u got a shared server with that makes you sigh
urban depot
shared c ores are slow
golden gust
Then again, some shared hosts will literally offer you hardware from 6 years ago
cores on VPSes are generally shared too
urban depot
oh fair enough then
urban depot
Who u got a shared server with that makes you sigh
where can i buy one of your shirts
left swift
Walmart
left swift
No us east on bloomhost SAD!
What was the name of that one shared host people here recommended awhile ago where the owner went MIA and they had to shut down and refund a bunch of people
true canyon
You may be thinking slothhost?
tropic flame
slothhost sounds slow ngl
left swift
Anyone know the story about what happened to that owner dude? I stopped paying attention to it
true canyon
He just stopped responding to things. Did make a few posts on his reddit account that I guess he forgot people knew, and later deleted those posts (and I think the entire account? Don't recall) when they got replies asking to please help fix things.
Servers started going down as bills weren't paid, and the staff who had billing access did their best to refund as many as possible with a mystery amount of funds in the account.
The power of working with someone when you only know their online nickname!
left swift
urban depot
i bought a domain and i dont know what i want to do with it
i dont have a server anymore because it got too expensive
left swift
Theres people in here that own like hundreds of dollars worth of domains that dont do anything
urban depot
i spent $1 on my domain and it feels like a big waste
true canyon
Theres people in here that own like hundreds of dollars worth of domains that do...
Please don't call me out so publicly.
left swift
Where are these sweet deals at
wispy blade
one of my friends owns 727pp.how and he told me it's like €75/year
urban depot
back
urban depot
one of my friends owns 727pp.how and he told me it's like €75/year
god this looks like a 10 year old's sticky book
left swift
Please don't call me out so publicly.
What's ur best domain
urban depot
^?
heh the meme site runs nginx
i was told thats easily hackable
not that im smart enough
true canyon
What's ur best domain
I am fond of a xx.xx domain I have.
wispy blade
progress 👀
void void
i was told thats easily hackable
wispy blade
as long as you have enough time yea
left swift
Joe is unhackable
urban depot
i'd like to be this Joe
then i can self host
and not pay stupid money
host on my ryzen 3900x
short yarrow
how do big servers load balance multiple bungeecord proxies?
urban depot
which i got cos im stupid
wispy blade
using smth like haproxy
short yarrow
oh you can actually use a regular load balancer for minecraft?
didn't really think of that
urban depot
does anyone here use a vps to host their own website
golden gust
Well, bungee and velocity afaik support haproxy
need to use the proxy protocol as otherwise you'd lose the source IP
left swift
i'd like to be this Joe
Joe mama
short yarrow
what's the source ip?
golden gust
the clients IP
short yarrow
oh okay
if i don't use the protocol proxy, which ip would it use? the ip that's being used by haproxy?
golden gust
yes
worn ember
Everything is easily hackable
i hacked ur mom so hard she cried
gusty lance
magic river
ProtonMail tries to pretend this isn't a thing they will do
But their language gives them an out
They should just be upfront about it
vernal moth
They are?
wispy blade
ah yes, sanity
left swift
73 insertions 😳 😳
limber knotBOT
additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550
wispy blade
but it is descriptive!
minor badge
absolutely not :D
mossy vessel
conventional commits smh
minor badge
it should be able to explain what and preferably why with only showing the commit message
urban depot
more professional than me
lament patio
Relatable
limber knotBOT
Hello
void void
👋 hi
urban depot
helllo bot
worn crest
Better than
Try 1
Try 2 etc 
urban depot
and better than gibberish that is in one file
void void
is the wall of if statements still there?
void void
enums when™️
frank otter
imagine having descriptive commit messages
oh wait I'm actually betting better at that
untold copper
@potent fossil i frickin love doctor who lmao
ashen cliff
Bro.
ashen cliff
How is life bro?
nimble depot
Potat
untold copper
How is life bro?
Actual garbage bro! What about urs?
also
day #91 of trying to get abs: did 35 minutes of yoga cos my parents forced me to reeee yoga is so unrewarding
ashen cliff
Actual garbage bro! What about urs?
Same bro.
ashen cliff
ZGC?
twin lagoon
i have no idea
vestal jasper
twin lagoon
uwu
ashen cliff
<@!219443401974611970>
Daily reminder: https://posili.me/i/2019-10-09_22-35-30.png
Nope. Don't have a single good screenshot. Probably get get something going with iowait.
solid sapphire
yeah i did it
i fixed my embedgen
what did it take? 7 hours. ez
now i can rickroll ppl
also if you want tgar link just dm me
meager tusk
Daily reminder: https://posili.me/i/2019-10-09_22-35-30.png
It's easy to beat anything Michael does.
He's bad at devops bro.
@twin lagoon.
ashen cliff
meager tusk
Michael is most intelligent w*stern devops.
Makes sense why everything he touches breaks.
ashen cliff
Fact!
warm anchor
Good morning bro!
ashen cliff
Morning bro!
ashen cliff
The only real part of the world!
meager tusk
Fact!
potent fossil
<@!698668938661331045> i frickin love doctor who lmao
good
upper fern
Yo guys so one of my friends edited our world's height and added noodle caves on 1.17.1
but our PAPER-1.17.1 latest build server
crashed everytime we tried to load
i can send crash log if you want but i really need help rn
idk why it crashed
quasi valley
left swift
rate my profile aesthetic simple
warm anchor
rate my profile aesthetic simple
Look like California fire
left swift
golden gust
not sure if scarecrow or emo
warm anchor
Make your profile pic seemingly match the background would be even better @left swift
left swift
the header or u mean the discord background
cosmic raft
hi
mossy vessel
good morning kash
plucky sparrow
hi
potent fossil
henlo
potent fossil
rate my profile aesthetic simple
10/10
Not bad waiting for coffee to brew then will be gud
nova plume
wispy blade
cappuccino?
plucky sparrow
cappuccino?
you’re depresing
meager tusk
Not bad waiting for coffee to brew then will be gud
Bro!
marble lark
For some reason I find Lattes somewhat too bitter
meager tusk
What kind of Coffee do you drink.
marble lark
even though they're mostly milk
ashen cliff
Bro.
quasi valley
I exclusively drink tar
ashen cliff
Water.
meager tusk
Correct answer.
marble lark
I exclusively drink tar
what does tar taste like
potent fossil
What kind of Coffee do you drink.
Black coffee, french pressed.
Fuck a latte
Y'all wild
Drink coffee like this or not at all 😤
wispy blade
facts
wispy blade
what does tar taste like
metal. maybe if you tar -xvzf it'll taste better
golden gust
want me to teabag it for extra flavour?
vernal moth
That nice sweat flavor
wide chasm
Drink coffee like this or not at all 😤
I'll pick the latter
waxen panther
@meager tusk
potent fossil
Brocco how are you
meager tusk
<@589898090174218243>
Yes bro ?
potent fossil
is that an espresso
no, it's french press
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by TheShermanTanker - About 361,000,000 results (0.55 seconds)
potent fossil
you take ground beans, put them in a container, pour boiling water over it, let it brew like that for 3-5 minutes, then press the grounds down and pour the finished coffee out
marble lark
oh
potent fossil
it makes for much stronger coffee than pouring water over beans and letting it filter down
marble lark
can't imagine how bitter it is dx
potent fossil
it's not
bitterness comes from the water not having enough time to fully extract the caffeine and everything out of the beans
which is what happens when you percolate coffee (pour water over grounds in a filter)
french press makes a very full flavored coffee
potent fossil
the more you know, the better your coffee
waxen panther
Brocco how are you
potent fossil
cute brocco
twin lagoon
potent fossil
cute michal 
twin lagoon
ashen cliff
Yes.
marble lark
rip
meager tusk
cute michal <:paperUwU:826856032373702667>
cap
twin lagoon
IDRIZ!
tawny stream
hi everyone, where can I find the last version for 1.16?
tawny stream
I cannot see it in here https://papermc.io/legacy#Paper
twin lagoon
1.16 or 1.16.5
tawny stream
oh, it's in the first view
void void
go to the 1.16 downloads page and scroll to 1.16 if you want 1.16, for 1.16.5 it's at the top
void void
hi
gleaming bronze
hi
marble lark
bruh
formal turret
gotta test the bot network you know
merry talon
the only way to drink coffee is over ice
mossy vessel
Looks like they already stopped
unkempt drift
hi is considered spam?
swift root
if it's in every single channel, yeah
twin lagoon
@untold meadow 
swift root
so erm, Jose and Fira, one channel pls
marble lark
probably either 2 friends pulling a prank or bots
though I have to agree with Machine there they each only said hi once at least
untold meadow
well we definitely must be working off different definitions of the word "once"
warm anchor
Why are you saying hi in every single channel
Hi
void void
hi
warm anchor
Hi 
@plucky sparrow
unkempt drift
eternity alts confirmed?
warm anchor
Imagine being in anywhere that’s not US 
worn ember
weeb